July 8, 2025 • 28 mins
Host Eric Allen is joined in the studio by defensive coordinator Steve Wilks. The former 49ers DC discusses the Jets changes on defense this offseason and the potential for the unit overall. The second half of the pod, former Jets WR and analyst Quincy Enunwa comes on to talk about his expectations for the Jets 2025 season on defense.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we're gonna be talking defense, coming up with
coordinator Steve Wilkes and former Jets receiver Quincy Newwah. Don't
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
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When you got the call from a g about the
defensive coordinator of vacancy here, what was your reaction?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I was excited, you know, ag and I was in
communication for a while throughout the process, and so he
kept me in the looping exactly what was going on.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And when it narrowed down.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
To the Jets, I got real excited because I understand
the personnel that we have here. I was excited about
the guys that we have on defense, a lot of
pieces to work with, so and I knew his relationship
with organization that it was going to be a great
fit with ownership.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Where did your pass cross before this?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Really, we never worked together. A lot of tremendous respect
for one another. We're in the same division when he
was with the Saints, house with the Panthers. So as
dB guys, we were always communicating talk, particularly when we
got to the Combine. We were always fellowship there every year,
and I think we just developed a relationship to where
our philosophy and ideas were aligned with one another.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, can you speak to that Your philosophies as far
as defensive football and attack and the offense.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well, well, one just you know, being aggressive through our
base fundamentals, you know, number one, starting with that having
guys on the perimeter that can cover and play man
the man. Just our identity, how the defense should be shaped.
Everything starts up front with really an aggressive mentality, you know. So, uh,
just those conversations over the years, man, we just you know,
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realize that we're on the same page.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
The last game you coached in in the National Football
League was the Super Bowl. What was the year away
like for you? And can you speak to how the
fire still burns after thirty plus years of experience coaching?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It was great, man.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
It was an opportunity for me to really reset, recharge.
I was over at UNC Charlotte which was right there
at home, so it was very convenient for me. Uh.
Coach Biff Pogie was outstanding, you know to invite me over.
We built a great friendship and they practice in the morning,
so rich really all afternoon. I would just watch tape
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and I had every game from the NFL each week,
so I would study different you know, teams, different defenses.
I watched a lot of Detroit and what they were doing,
but just different things throughout the year, what they were
doing on third down and what the you know schematics were.
So uh, they able to progress and grow there and
we're excited to get the phone call to get back
into the fold.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Is this a fair assessment of the way you go
about it? You are an aggressive play caller who is
a guy who's going to emphasize takeaways at every turn.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That's my foundation.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And when I came in the league with Lovey Smith,
you know, it was just really with Chicago taking the
football away, you know, with Peanut Tom and the peanut punch.
Chris Harris, who's on the staff right now as the
secondary coach pass game coordinator, he was another guy on
that team that believed in really stripping and taking the
ball Away and everywhere I've been that's always been our mantra,
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you know. So that's something that we're going to continue
to coach and emphasize here. I'm all about the fundamentals
and technique, you know, Coach ag talks about it all
the time. It's not about our scheme, it's about our
play style. And that's the one thing that we want
to continue to emphasize. Being physical, you know, being smart right,
and understanding how to finish not only on the field right,
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but even in the building.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
How do you go about connecting the players.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I think that's always been my strong suit.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Is anything in life I believe is about building relationships
and having an understanding that there's life beyond football. And
when you can sit here and cultivate those relationships with
your players, I think it's easier to be able to
coach them on the field.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I said this back years ago with Josh Norman when
he left us in Carolina, he went to Washington and
people said, well, he was never really the same player,
and I said, you know, it's easy to develop the
player when you're taking time to develop the person. And
that's what I did with him in Carolina. We built
that relationship, so it was easy for me to coach
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him and teach him on the field.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
AG said the first thing when I asked him about
you was a straight shooter.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what I believe in. And I believe
in telling someone exactly what they need to hear, you know.
I think that's so important. You know, we talk about
all the time. You know, we want to act like
a champion, and that's accountability, commitment, and trust. And that's
what I'm trying to build with the team and that's
what I want to be able to get back from them.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And I'm always telling them the truth. You know.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Sometimes they may not like it, but I think they're
respected in the end. And I tell coaches all the time,
we have to have grown men conversations. We can't shy
away from things that we need to address. And I
think that's so important, and that's where we are right now,
you know, with Phase three, you know, talking about some
of the discipline stuff, being consistent in how we operate
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on a day to day basis, and the guys are
completely buying in which I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You've been a head coach in the National Football League.
How can that experience help you with Aaron, who is
an accomplished coach himself, but this is his first time
as a head coach in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think it's just always trying to draw on past
experiences when things come up, and a lot of those
aren't really related to football, you know, So having an
ear that one who's gone through it and you know,
can really understand the situation that he's sitting in that seat.
So I think that's so important to have that outlet
and that have that guy because sometimes in that seat, man,
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you feel like there's no one you can talk to
because you're you're really dealing with different things way beyond football.
So I think, you know, I can be a sounding
board for him in regards to that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Can you speak to the importance of the assistance on
your staff, the assistant coaches on your stuff, Man.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
The assistant coaches are so huge. And I've said this
for years, Like the head coach delivers the message, he
says the foundation, and it's our responsibility as coordinators and
assistant coaches to echo that. And I try to do
the same thing as soon as I leave the team meeting,
you know, emphasizing the stuff that we talked about as
a staff and then now as assistant coaches, they have
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really the most influenced because they're around their guys once
they go into those private, you know, individual rooms, it's about,
you know, the presentation and how you teach it, how
you present it, and guys man a phenomenal I bounced
around to each room. We got great teaching. That's one
of the things I truly believe in as coaches. You know,
great teachers, outstanding communicators, and guys that can develop players.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Speaking of players, what is it going to be what
is it going to be like for some of these
guys who are playing for is Steve Wilkes defense in
the secondary? Because you mentioned Chris Harris before. Dre Bligh
is here as well. Also, the head coach played the
National Football League for fifteen years himself, was a position
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coach before he became defensive coordinator and now is at
the top of the He's at the top of the ladder.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I always say this, right, everything we do starts up front.
I mean, I don't care what is We have to
do a great job of establishing the line of scrimmage
up in the run. The second level right there, are
called you know, Quincy and Sherwood right there, they're the glue,
you know. And then on the back end, I emphasized
we drive the bus from the back, the last line
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of defense, right we can't make a mistake back there.
And our communication thus far throughout the process has been phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
We're building on that each and every day.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You know, when you look at Cisco, you look at
Brandon Stevens, the guys that we picked up. Man, We've
really got some great guys in free agency. I'm excited
about Malaca, you know, the guys that we drafted. I
think coach ag And and Darren Moosey has done a
tremendous job the host out of the department and really
nailing the draft. So our secondary man fundamentally sound aggressive
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in how we, you know, approach each and every day.
You know, I think the identity you're a defense is
how your DB's tackle. Right, We're going to be physical
on the back end. You know, they block support and
they say one on one right now that running back
in your dB. I tell those guys all the time,
we better show up. You know, that's our mentality right here.
And as you mentioned earlier, Man it's about making plays
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on the ball and taking the ball away.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
What did you know about Sherwood before you got here
and why was that an important resigning for this defense
and the entire team? Well?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Well, really, man, you go back and I'm hoping, and
I don't like comparing, right, but when I look at
Sherwood and I really look at Quincy, man, I go
back over my tenure and you know Thomas and Luke,
you know, Fred Warner and Greenlaw a.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Few years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
They have that ability, you know, for us playing together
and being here in the off season and building that
foundation is great. Sherwood was really you know, at that point,
management AG decided to move on with mostly and I thought,
you know, Sherwood, is your time to step up in
that room and be that leader, not only in that
room but on that side of the defense.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And I can't tell you how pleased and excited I
am in the leadership role that he's taking, you know.
And you know you see that, you know a guy
that just got paid and it's like he's still hungry.
He's still hungry, he's still trying to make sure that
he does everything he can to help this defense.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
What do you think about some of the pieces up front,
starting with a cornerstone defensive tackle in Quinn Williams Man.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I love Quinny, I love him. He's phenomenal. Uh, this
guy is one of the top the tackles in the NFL.
You know, when you look at other guys we brought
in Colen Byron, you know Jay, you know he is phenomenalus,
quick off his feet, quick off the ball. I think
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those guys are really going to compliment Quinny, you know.
And when even when you look outside and what we
have with will Germaine, you know clym And I'm excited
about Tyler Barron, you know, one of the guys that
we drafted right here. So all those guys are looking
good in their progression in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
All right.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Lastly, Sauce Garner, you mentioned your expectations for the secondary
as a whole. What his coaching Sauce been like in
the early going, and what is your expectation going to
be from him as you get to these next stages,
because right now you're instilling the system. You're out here
in the spring and training camps on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
The first thing I would say about him smart, he
is tremendously smart, understands the game, sees it through a
different lands, which is great. Our dialogue and communication is
like I'm talking to one of the coaches and how
I present things to him. Formation splits id in certain
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guys aligning at different positions. Therefore he can play fast
the system, you know, as we implement and install different things.
I think he's picking it up great. We're challenging him
right now to be consistent, you know, and his technique
and his approach. He can be one of the consistently
one of the top players in this league. As we
already know. I'm talking about, you know, a big time
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you know corner as we had one here years ago
for as Revis. You know, he has that kind of
potential and ability. So I'm excited to see what he's
going to do this year. Thanks coach, Thank you, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
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with the Jets. Of course, defensive coordinator last four seasons
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in Detroit, they flip that thing. He makes a very
important hire, I thought early on Steve Wilkes defensive coordinator.
For him, Wilkes is going to be calling plays and
also he brings that head coaching acumen to the table,
so he'll be able to help ag out throughout the season.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, and one thing I love about this defense is
that all the coaches, well for the most part, are
former players, right, So that's a different you know, you're
you're you're talking about you know, guys that have been
in the game understand it. So yeah, it'll be interesting
to see, you know, how that relays onto the players
because you know, this is going to be a defense
that's bringing back some guys that obviously are really talented.
And saw us in Quinny, right. MC two didn't have
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a great year last year. He was coming off an injury,
so now we get to see him really come back
and play well. So, uh, you know, I'm excited to see,
you know how this kind of shapes up.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I think people are sleeping on the Jets defensively a
little bit because you just mentioned it. They do have
elite players at every level. If you're really talking about
you go to the secondary and you have the sauce Gardner.
Then you go up a couple levels and you have
that cornerstone piece a defensive tackle with Quinn Williams. Then
at the linebacker and NAT tandem was sure Wood. Quincy
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Williams is dynamic.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I mean, listen, I think there's the question marks are understandable,
right especially coming off of last year, you know, so
it makes sense that people are like, you know, are
they going to be good this year? You know, you
still have another question mark DJ. You lose a guy
like that, you know, you hope that the guy on
the opposite side and Brandon Stevens can kind of pick
up that slack or even do even more. So, you know,
safety position was obviously a question mark Cisco. You know
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last year wasn't his best year, but prior to that,
you know he was a great safety. So you know,
I say this all the time now that you know
Ag really wants his coaches to be able to coach right,
to be able to really get the most out of
his guys.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Let me read you some stats from last year. The
Jets were third and NFL yards per game three hundred
and thirteen point eight, seventeenth in rush yards per game
allowed one to twenty one point one, but sixth in
rush yards per play it's just a little over four
point zero. It's close to four point one. Interception rate
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that's been a problem for a little bit around here,
twenty seventh in the National Football League one point three
four percent. Where is sex per pass attempt They wanted
to get to the quarterback with seventh seventeenth in the
red zone, so about fifty eight point seventh three. Yeah,
So in Detroit, the emphasis for Aaron Glynnen was stop
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the run and take the football way right. That's gonna
be the same deal.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Here, Oh absolutely, and you know it'll be.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I think if they can make Bandon Stevens and Saws
Gardener two guys that take the football away, I mean
that's going to change the course of all the season,
right because a guy like Bandon Steeds, I think he would,
to be honest with you, in my opinion, he was
in a lot of plays. He just wasn't always able
to track the ball. And I heard Steve Wilks also
say this himself that you know, one thing they want
to work on with him is trying to find the
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ball a little bit better, you know, figuring out how
to play the game like a receiver, you know, So
it'll be good for them to get him on that track.
And then saw us as a guy that we've been
wanting him to get picked, you know, since he got here.
So I think you're just kind of having a different
view that this year and having a guy like ag
just play the game's gonna be helpful, Andre Blig.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The Jets had seven interceptions last season that was tied
for twenty six. I mean they got to get the
ball more. Yeah, and five of those picks were from
guys who are no longer on the russ Right, you
just mentioned Stevens being around the ball. The Gardner dynamic
is very interesting because a lot of teams opposing quarterbacks
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are like, oh, Gardner's over there, I'm staying away from him.
So how does he get more picks? How do the
Jets schematically put him in a position where he'll had
more opportunities to make plays in the ball.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well, So be honest with you, I think that there
might be a little bit of a shift this year.
I think that teams I don't think teams believe that
they can beat Sauce, right, But I still think that
there's going to be a little bit more challenging him,
right You think about like Tennessee last year, they challenged him.
There were a couple other teams that challenged him. You
got to have a quarterback that's confident in himself or
just kind of silly, you know, makes it, you know,
desions that you don't really agree with. But you know,
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I think it's going to be up to the teams
to say, listen, my receiver might not be able to
get open, but can he catch the ball on Sauce
Because right now, Sauce doesn't show that he's going to
get the turnover, and so maybe I'll take the incompletion right,
or I'll take the jump ball and give my guy
an opportunity. So I think this year he might have more,
you know, more times where teams will throw at him.
You know, especially if for playing some receivers that you know,
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these teams have confidence.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What do you see from him in terms of how
can he how can he come down with it?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
It's tough, you know. I think he's usually in position
and I think a lot of times he doesn't take, Well,
he doesn't get a lot of opportunities. Let's start the Yeah,
that's right, he doesn't get a lot of opportunities. But
then the other part of it is, you know, when
he does get those opportunities, he's not always in the
right position, and so then that makes it also kind
of challenging. So you know, I think as a as
a cornerback, you're on an island, right, and so you
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have to keep yourself in the game as much as possible.
And there was some decisions that were made, whether it
was his fault or safety fault, that kind of made
it where he couldn't get those interceptions.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I like the Cisco dynamic, and I wrote about this
the other day that him and Sauce really big. Now
Cisco is playing the ballhawking safety spot. But I think
having him on one side is going to allow Cisco
to be what he is, a natural ballhawk and take
some chances on it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Right, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
You know, when you have that confidence on the other side,
I think any safety is going to tell you like, Okay,
I don't have to look at this side. I remember
who was that play safety before. But they were speaking
on revis and how you know, I don't really have
to pay attention to that side as much, right I
can kind of I can be rangy on this side,
you know, and it allows me to make plays when
I need to.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
What do you make of the other safety spot? You
have Tony Adams, Isaiah Oliver is the kind of guy
who can do it all right. He can play nickel four,
he can play safety. Then you have Melchi Moore, a
player the Jets are very high on. And I asked
Cisco about him. He said, I really like his game.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna be a good challenge. And I
think you know, Tony Adams coming back. You know, he's
the guy right now, right, so he's got it. He's
got the target on his back, right He's the guy
that's got the the the most experienced right now in
terms of you know, this is my team. So you know,
it's gonna be interesting to see who the team likes,
you know, because ultimately, sometimes it's scheme fit. It's not
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always like are you the better players? Do you fit
this scheme the best?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And the Jets definitely think that Malchi more fits that
scheme because they traded up in order to get him.
You at Aaron glenns Hawk in the branch about him,
and he said, he's the dog. This guy can do
it all. You know, he brings it from a cerebral perspective.
He's also a physical dude who's not afraid. Yeah, that's right.
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So we were talking before we started the pop what's
it gonna look like in the defensive interior next.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
To Quinn Williams.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Because you sign in free agency Derek Noddy, who most
recently played with the Chiefs, Byron Coward, who not only
played with the Bears last year, but the Bears defensive
coordinator down in the season was Eric Washington. Eric Washington
is the Jets defensive line coach. You got Mathis You
picked him up on waivers. He's a monster of a guy.
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The previous regime picked him up last summer. Leonard Taylor
still here. You also signed Jay to fully in free agency.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, I mean that's I think that's one position where
I didn't I wasn't sure whether or not they was
going to try to draft somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So, you know, I think.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Everybody was wondering that because the depth of class.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah, exactly. You know, you had a lot of a
lot of great talent, in the draft. So you know,
I think that they if they decided not to pick
anybody up, then I think you have to assume that
they feel really confident about these guys. And this is
a position that's you know, one of the most important,
like the offensive line of the opposite side. Right, they
got to get the pressure right, They got to make
it where it's really challenging. So then the corners can
play free, you know, when they know that, you know,
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there's getting a lot of pressure from their interior and
the outside. You know, now I can play with a
little bit more leniency.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I wonder if Coward is a slight favorite going at
But again, you're gonna split reps up. You're gonna be
rotating guys. It's not like any of these guys, even
if they won the job, it's gonna be playing seventy snaps.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Well, yeah, I think there is an understanding that if
a coach brings a guy that he's going to like
him a little bit more. But what I will say though,
is that a lot of times some guys fall into
that trap and think, well, you know another coach and
I got a personal response, a personal relationship with him,
like you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Set for me.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
So you know, as a player, you gotta be careful
thinking that way. And you know, as a young guy,
if you see that, you know you just got You
just gotta play hard and you know, find your time.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
What do you make of Will McDonald's who played about
two thirty five to thirty six last year, putting on
fifteen pounds of muscle in all season.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
No, that's deep.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I mean I think for him, I'm looking forward to
see how he improves on last year, right, Like it
was exciting to see Jermaine Johnson make the step and
it was even more exciting to see Will McDonald because
I think he was doubted even more, especially on his side,
so to come out and get those sacks like he did.
You know, I can't wait to see what he does
with more weight on him right in a new defense. Uh,
you know, so that's gonna be him and Jermaine Johnson together,
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you know, giving that Jermaine comes back healthy, it's gonna
be exciting.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Ten and a half sacks last year. What are you
making the number change for Will? Going to number nine?
You like that?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I mean, sometimes you gotta go back to your roots,
you know. Yeah, you gotta go back to your roots
and maybe that'll kind of bring The game is mental.
A lot of it is mental. So if you can
kind of put yourself back in that mind space where
you were the most confident, you know, there's a reason
why you were drafted at the position you were, and
maybe it'll really take you to another level.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
And Will's gonna help or my member going to another
level and we're gonna be able to watch that throughout
training camp. Those guys with the pads on going toe
to toe. You mentioned Jermaine before coming off to Achilles.
That was a devastating injury for the defense that happened
in week two last year. His mindset is unbelievable and
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he provides an element of a nastiness and he plays
the game so passionately, and he's got a pretty unique
skill set, as AG said, because he's athletic, but he
also can you know, set that edge and he's a
big dude. What do you think about him during camp
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because AG has been clear about that, Hey, he might
start camp on the pup list, but he'll be ready
in week one and he'll be teeing off trying to
get Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, I mean, we've seen now in the over the
past few years a couple of guys on this team
with the Achilles obviously, you know Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
And you have a v T as well.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
So av T was able to come back and play right,
and so you know, those young guys have a better
opportunity to bounce back. You know, I think av T
was a little bit more protected being in an interior guy,
whereas you know a guy like Jamain Johnson, he's more
out in the edge. You know, there's no real protection
so to say. But you know, I think it'll be
up to him. It sounds like he's working hard, right
The guy's documenting his recovery process, you know, and so
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whether it's pupp or right on active, as soon as
he gets back, you know, I think he's going to
be hungry.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Rashad Weaver he played pretty well this spring. I mean
he was popping again. No pads out there, and the
quarterbacks are protected. He had five and a half sacks
with the Titans back in twenty twenty two, so we're
not far removed from that. And the Jets also drafted
Tyler Barron out of Miami late so we'll have to
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see what he can do in camp. Getting back to
the cornerback position. When you talked about Stevens Michael Carter,
what about a Z Thomas. Yeah, the physicality he brings
to the table and also the size, because this has
been an emphasis here for these guys like ag played
at five nine said Hey, I want my cornerbacks big, right.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Yeah, No, I mean I think that's I like that pick.
You know, when I watch his film, he's a real
physical guy. Re a lanky guy, right, a guy that
will keep you right in front of you, and that
disrupts timing right, Like a lot of times we always
make fun of dbs whenever they you know, it's an incompletion,
the balls thrown way out of the way and they
do this like as if they made a big play.
But ultimately the offensive side, it's all about timing. So
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if you can disrupt that timing, you can really disrupt
the whole play, you know, So you're going to have
those opportunities to celebrate. And so if he can do that,
and I think that's what they're looking for him to do.
I remember on his phone call the draft, they told
him to be nasty or something like that, you know,
really be, So, yeah, that's what they want him to be.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And then a couple other guys who are going to
try to make in roads here JBC Jerk, Bernard Converse,
who I thought had a good camp last year, and
then Quantest Stake mays we should not forget about him
as well.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, that's a guy that can also play special teams.
He did a little bit of it last year. But yeah,
another physical corner. So that's where they're going. That's the
type of guy that they're looking for. So you know,
it'll be good to kind of watch that battle all right.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Before we get to Steve Wilkes, what about the marrying
of philosophies. You mentioned it before, got Aaron Glenn who
might have operated or called it a little bit differently
than Wilkes. What do you think when you put their
heads together and what we're ultimately going to see.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, I think we're gonn to see a good marriage
of the two defenses, right, and I think there's gonna
be a lot of similarities, right, and so for the
terminology would be the toughest thing, you know, coming from
one defense and now this's a new one. But I
think it's going to still be aggressive. You know, I
think they're still going to find ways to make plays
and find ways to make it cohesive.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, and again stopping to run, taking the football away,
and these are two things that you go back. Wilkes
has had tremendous success getting to the quarterback and we
saw that from Detroit as far as their rise is concerned.
Obviously to draft Hutchinson and that changed the dynamic, but
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ag stayed true to what he wanted even with the injury. Yes,
that's what I'm saying. Like last year, it was impressive
what Aaron did last year in Detroit. So I ultimately
think defensively could be very much the Jets could be
very much help by what's gonna happen on offense, because
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I think an ideal, an ideal situation, the Jets are
holding onto the ball because they're grinding on teams with
the run game, they're pounding the rock. That means time
of possession. That means the guys are not on the
field as much. Because you're going from a philosophy offensively
to hey, we're gonna throw the ball a lot to
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more balance, and when you have more balance, I think
ultimately is gonna help the guys on the other side
the ball.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, balance is the key word there because last year
there wasn't a lot of balance offense, defense or a
special team. So I think that's what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
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and Steve Wilks are going to challenge this Jets defense,
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which has pro bowlers at every level, to find another gear.
You know, the Jets will field a very fast unit
and that is something you can't coach. Glenn and Wilkes
are going to demand that they have a good tackling
group who takes the ball away. Elite defenses pillage, and
we're going to hear more about play style than playbook.
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more takeaways in twenty twenty five. So long until next time.
All right, we're gonna be talking defense, coming up with
coordinator Steve Wilkes and former Jets receiver Quincy Newwah. Don't
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When you got the call from a g about the
defensive coordinator of vacancy here, what was your reaction?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I was excited, you know, ag and I was in
communication for a while throughout the process, and so he
kept me in the looping exactly what was going on.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And when it narrowed down.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
To the Jets, I got real excited because I understand
the personnel that we have here. I was excited about
the guys that we have on defense, a lot of
pieces to work with, so and I knew his relationship
with organization that it was going to be a great
fit with ownership.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Where did your pass cross before this?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Really, we never worked together. A lot of tremendous respect
for one another. We're in the same division when he
was with the Saints, house with the Panthers. So as
dB guys, we were always communicating talk, particularly when we
got to the Combine. We were always fellowship there every year,
and I think we just developed a relationship to where
our philosophy and ideas were aligned with one another.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, can you speak to that Your philosophies as far
as defensive football and attack and the offense.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well, well, one just you know, being aggressive through our
base fundamentals, you know, number one, starting with that having
guys on the perimeter that can cover and play man
the man. Just our identity, how the defense should be shaped.
Everything starts up front with really an aggressive mentality, you know. So, uh,
just those conversations over the years, man, we just you know,
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realize that we're on the same page.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
The last game you coached in in the National Football
League was the Super Bowl. What was the year away
like for you? And can you speak to how the
fire still burns after thirty plus years of experience coaching?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It was great, man.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
It was an opportunity for me to really reset, recharge.
I was over at UNC Charlotte which was right there
at home, so it was very convenient for me. Uh.
Coach Biff Pogie was outstanding, you know to invite me over.
We built a great friendship and they practice in the morning,
so rich really all afternoon. I would just watch tape
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and I had every game from the NFL each week,
so I would study different you know, teams, different defenses.
I watched a lot of Detroit and what they were doing,
but just different things throughout the year, what they were
doing on third down and what the you know schematics were.
So uh, they able to progress and grow there and
we're excited to get the phone call to get back
into the fold.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Is this a fair assessment of the way you go
about it? You are an aggressive play caller who is
a guy who's going to emphasize takeaways at every turn.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That's my foundation.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And when I came in the league with Lovey Smith,
you know, it was just really with Chicago taking the
football away, you know, with Peanut Tom and the peanut punch.
Chris Harris, who's on the staff right now as the
secondary coach pass game coordinator, he was another guy on
that team that believed in really stripping and taking the
ball Away and everywhere I've been that's always been our mantra,
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you know. So that's something that we're going to continue
to coach and emphasize here. I'm all about the fundamentals
and technique, you know, Coach ag talks about it all
the time. It's not about our scheme, it's about our
play style. And that's the one thing that we want
to continue to emphasize. Being physical, you know, being smart right,
and understanding how to finish not only on the field right,
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but even in the building.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
How do you go about connecting the players.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I think that's always been my strong suit.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Is anything in life I believe is about building relationships
and having an understanding that there's life beyond football. And
when you can sit here and cultivate those relationships with
your players, I think it's easier to be able to
coach them on the field.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I said this back years ago with Josh Norman when
he left us in Carolina, he went to Washington and
people said, well, he was never really the same player,
and I said, you know, it's easy to develop the
player when you're taking time to develop the person. And
that's what I did with him in Carolina. We built
that relationship, so it was easy for me to coach
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him and teach him on the field.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
AG said the first thing when I asked him about
you was a straight shooter.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what I believe in. And I believe
in telling someone exactly what they need to hear, you know.
I think that's so important. You know, we talk about
all the time. You know, we want to act like
a champion, and that's accountability, commitment, and trust. And that's
what I'm trying to build with the team and that's
what I want to be able to get back from them.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And I'm always telling them the truth. You know.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Sometimes they may not like it, but I think they're
respected in the end. And I tell coaches all the time,
we have to have grown men conversations. We can't shy
away from things that we need to address. And I
think that's so important, and that's where we are right now,
you know, with Phase three, you know, talking about some
of the discipline stuff, being consistent in how we operate
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on a day to day basis, and the guys are
completely buying in which I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You've been a head coach in the National Football League.
How can that experience help you with Aaron, who is
an accomplished coach himself, but this is his first time
as a head coach in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think it's just always trying to draw on past
experiences when things come up, and a lot of those
aren't really related to football, you know, So having an
ear that one who's gone through it and you know,
can really understand the situation that he's sitting in that seat.
So I think that's so important to have that outlet
and that have that guy because sometimes in that seat, man,
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you feel like there's no one you can talk to
because you're you're really dealing with different things way beyond football.
So I think, you know, I can be a sounding
board for him in regards to that.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Can you speak to the importance of the assistance on
your staff, the assistant coaches on your stuff, Man.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
The assistant coaches are so huge. And I've said this
for years, Like the head coach delivers the message, he
says the foundation, and it's our responsibility as coordinators and
assistant coaches to echo that. And I try to do
the same thing as soon as I leave the team meeting,
you know, emphasizing the stuff that we talked about as
a staff and then now as assistant coaches, they have
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really the most influenced because they're around their guys once
they go into those private, you know, individual rooms, it's about,
you know, the presentation and how you teach it, how
you present it, and guys man a phenomenal I bounced
around to each room. We got great teaching. That's one
of the things I truly believe in as coaches. You know,
great teachers, outstanding communicators, and guys that can develop players.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Speaking of players, what is it going to be what
is it going to be like for some of these
guys who are playing for is Steve Wilkes defense in
the secondary? Because you mentioned Chris Harris before. Dre Bligh
is here as well. Also, the head coach played the
National Football League for fifteen years himself, was a position
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coach before he became defensive coordinator and now is at
the top of the He's at the top of the ladder.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I always say this, right, everything we do starts up front.
I mean, I don't care what is We have to
do a great job of establishing the line of scrimmage
up in the run. The second level right there, are
called you know, Quincy and Sherwood right there, they're the glue,
you know. And then on the back end, I emphasized
we drive the bus from the back, the last line
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of defense, right we can't make a mistake back there.
And our communication thus far throughout the process has been phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
We're building on that each and every day.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You know, when you look at Cisco, you look at
Brandon Stevens, the guys that we picked up. Man, We've
really got some great guys in free agency. I'm excited
about Malaca, you know, the guys that we drafted. I
think coach ag And and Darren Moosey has done a
tremendous job the host out of the department and really
nailing the draft. So our secondary man fundamentally sound aggressive
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in how we, you know, approach each and every day.
You know, I think the identity you're a defense is
how your DB's tackle. Right, We're going to be physical
on the back end. You know, they block support and
they say one on one right now that running back
in your dB. I tell those guys all the time,
we better show up. You know, that's our mentality right here.
And as you mentioned earlier, Man it's about making plays
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on the ball and taking the ball away.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
What did you know about Sherwood before you got here
and why was that an important resigning for this defense
and the entire team? Well?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Well, really, man, you go back and I'm hoping, and
I don't like comparing, right, but when I look at
Sherwood and I really look at Quincy, man, I go
back over my tenure and you know Thomas and Luke,
you know, Fred Warner and Greenlaw a.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Few years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
They have that ability, you know, for us playing together
and being here in the off season and building that
foundation is great. Sherwood was really you know, at that point,
management AG decided to move on with mostly and I thought,
you know, Sherwood, is your time to step up in
that room and be that leader, not only in that
room but on that side of the defense.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And I can't tell you how pleased and excited I
am in the leadership role that he's taking, you know.
And you know you see that, you know a guy
that just got paid and it's like he's still hungry.
He's still hungry, he's still trying to make sure that
he does everything he can to help this defense.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
What do you think about some of the pieces up front,
starting with a cornerstone defensive tackle in Quinn Williams Man.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I love Quinny, I love him. He's phenomenal. Uh, this
guy is one of the top the tackles in the NFL.
You know, when you look at other guys we brought
in Colen Byron, you know Jay, you know he is phenomenalus,
quick off his feet, quick off the ball. I think
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those guys are really going to compliment Quinny, you know.
And when even when you look outside and what we
have with will Germaine, you know clym And I'm excited
about Tyler Barron, you know, one of the guys that
we drafted right here. So all those guys are looking
good in their progression in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
All right.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Lastly, Sauce Garner, you mentioned your expectations for the secondary
as a whole. What his coaching Sauce been like in
the early going, and what is your expectation going to
be from him as you get to these next stages,
because right now you're instilling the system. You're out here
in the spring and training camps on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
The first thing I would say about him smart, he
is tremendously smart, understands the game, sees it through a
different lands, which is great. Our dialogue and communication is
like I'm talking to one of the coaches and how
I present things to him. Formation splits id in certain
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guys aligning at different positions. Therefore he can play fast
the system, you know, as we implement and install different things.
I think he's picking it up great. We're challenging him
right now to be consistent, you know, and his technique
and his approach. He can be one of the consistently
one of the top players in this league. As we
already know. I'm talking about, you know, a big time
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you know corner as we had one here years ago
for as Revis. You know, he has that kind of
potential and ability. So I'm excited to see what he's
going to do this year. Thanks coach, Thank you, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
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with the Jets. Of course, defensive coordinator last four seasons
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in Detroit, they flip that thing. He makes a very
important hire, I thought early on Steve Wilkes defensive coordinator.
For him, Wilkes is going to be calling plays and
also he brings that head coaching acumen to the table,
so he'll be able to help ag out throughout the season.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, and one thing I love about this defense is
that all the coaches, well for the most part, are
former players, right, So that's a different you know, you're
you're you're talking about you know, guys that have been
in the game understand it. So yeah, it'll be interesting
to see, you know, how that relays onto the players
because you know, this is going to be a defense
that's bringing back some guys that obviously are really talented.
And saw us in Quinny, right. MC two didn't have
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a great year last year. He was coming off an injury,
so now we get to see him really come back
and play well. So, uh, you know, I'm excited to see,
you know how this kind of shapes up.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I think people are sleeping on the Jets defensively a
little bit because you just mentioned it. They do have
elite players at every level. If you're really talking about
you go to the secondary and you have the sauce Gardner.
Then you go up a couple levels and you have
that cornerstone piece a defensive tackle with Quinn Williams. Then
at the linebacker and NAT tandem was sure Wood. Quincy
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Williams is dynamic.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I mean, listen, I think there's the question marks are understandable,
right especially coming off of last year, you know, so
it makes sense that people are like, you know, are
they going to be good this year? You know, you
still have another question mark DJ. You lose a guy
like that, you know, you hope that the guy on
the opposite side and Brandon Stevens can kind of pick
up that slack or even do even more. So, you know,
safety position was obviously a question mark Cisco. You know
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last year wasn't his best year, but prior to that,
you know he was a great safety. So you know,
I say this all the time now that you know
Ag really wants his coaches to be able to coach right,
to be able to really get the most out of
his guys.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Let me read you some stats from last year. The
Jets were third and NFL yards per game three hundred
and thirteen point eight, seventeenth in rush yards per game
allowed one to twenty one point one, but sixth in
rush yards per play it's just a little over four
point zero. It's close to four point one. Interception rate
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that's been a problem for a little bit around here,
twenty seventh in the National Football League one point three
four percent. Where is sex per pass attempt They wanted
to get to the quarterback with seventh seventeenth in the
red zone, so about fifty eight point seventh three. Yeah,
So in Detroit, the emphasis for Aaron Glynnen was stop
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the run and take the football way right. That's gonna
be the same deal.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Here, Oh absolutely, and you know it'll be.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I think if they can make Bandon Stevens and Saws
Gardener two guys that take the football away, I mean
that's going to change the course of all the season,
right because a guy like Bandon Steeds, I think he would,
to be honest with you, in my opinion, he was
in a lot of plays. He just wasn't always able
to track the ball. And I heard Steve Wilks also
say this himself that you know, one thing they want
to work on with him is trying to find the
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ball a little bit better, you know, figuring out how
to play the game like a receiver, you know, So
it'll be good for them to get him on that track.
And then saw us as a guy that we've been
wanting him to get picked, you know, since he got here.
So I think you're just kind of having a different
view that this year and having a guy like ag
just play the game's gonna be helpful, Andre Blig.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The Jets had seven interceptions last season that was tied
for twenty six. I mean they got to get the
ball more. Yeah, and five of those picks were from
guys who are no longer on the russ Right, you
just mentioned Stevens being around the ball. The Gardner dynamic
is very interesting because a lot of teams opposing quarterbacks
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are like, oh, Gardner's over there, I'm staying away from him.
So how does he get more picks? How do the
Jets schematically put him in a position where he'll had
more opportunities to make plays in the ball.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well, So be honest with you, I think that there
might be a little bit of a shift this year.
I think that teams I don't think teams believe that
they can beat Sauce, right, But I still think that
there's going to be a little bit more challenging him,
right You think about like Tennessee last year, they challenged him.
There were a couple other teams that challenged him. You
got to have a quarterback that's confident in himself or
just kind of silly, you know, makes it, you know,
desions that you don't really agree with. But you know,
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I think it's going to be up to the teams
to say, listen, my receiver might not be able to
get open, but can he catch the ball on Sauce
Because right now, Sauce doesn't show that he's going to
get the turnover, and so maybe I'll take the incompletion right,
or I'll take the jump ball and give my guy
an opportunity. So I think this year he might have more,
you know, more times where teams will throw at him.
You know, especially if for playing some receivers that you know,
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these teams have confidence.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What do you see from him in terms of how
can he how can he come down with it?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
It's tough, you know. I think he's usually in position
and I think a lot of times he doesn't take, Well,
he doesn't get a lot of opportunities. Let's start the Yeah,
that's right, he doesn't get a lot of opportunities. But
then the other part of it is, you know, when
he does get those opportunities, he's not always in the
right position, and so then that makes it also kind
of challenging. So you know, I think as a as
a cornerback, you're on an island, right, and so you
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have to keep yourself in the game as much as possible.
And there was some decisions that were made, whether it
was his fault or safety fault, that kind of made
it where he couldn't get those interceptions.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I like the Cisco dynamic, and I wrote about this
the other day that him and Sauce really big. Now
Cisco is playing the ballhawking safety spot. But I think
having him on one side is going to allow Cisco
to be what he is, a natural ballhawk and take
some chances on it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Right, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
You know, when you have that confidence on the other side,
I think any safety is going to tell you like, Okay,
I don't have to look at this side. I remember
who was that play safety before. But they were speaking
on revis and how you know, I don't really have
to pay attention to that side as much, right I
can kind of I can be rangy on this side,
you know, and it allows me to make plays when
I need to.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
What do you make of the other safety spot? You
have Tony Adams, Isaiah Oliver is the kind of guy
who can do it all right. He can play nickel four,
he can play safety. Then you have Melchi Moore, a
player the Jets are very high on. And I asked
Cisco about him. He said, I really like his game.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna be a good challenge. And I
think you know, Tony Adams coming back. You know, he's
the guy right now, right, so he's got it. He's
got the target on his back, right He's the guy
that's got the the the most experienced right now in
terms of you know, this is my team. So you know,
it's gonna be interesting to see who the team likes,
you know, because ultimately, sometimes it's scheme fit. It's not
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always like are you the better players? Do you fit
this scheme the best?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And the Jets definitely think that Malchi more fits that
scheme because they traded up in order to get him.
You at Aaron glenns Hawk in the branch about him,
and he said, he's the dog. This guy can do
it all. You know, he brings it from a cerebral perspective.
He's also a physical dude who's not afraid. Yeah, that's right.
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So we were talking before we started the pop what's
it gonna look like in the defensive interior next.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
To Quinn Williams.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Because you sign in free agency Derek Noddy, who most
recently played with the Chiefs, Byron Coward, who not only
played with the Bears last year, but the Bears defensive
coordinator down in the season was Eric Washington. Eric Washington
is the Jets defensive line coach. You got Mathis You
picked him up on waivers. He's a monster of a guy.
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The previous regime picked him up last summer. Leonard Taylor
still here. You also signed Jay to fully in free agency.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, I mean that's I think that's one position where
I didn't I wasn't sure whether or not they was
going to try to draft somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So, you know, I think.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Everybody was wondering that because the depth of class.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah, exactly. You know, you had a lot of a
lot of great talent, in the draft. So you know,
I think that they if they decided not to pick
anybody up, then I think you have to assume that
they feel really confident about these guys. And this is
a position that's you know, one of the most important,
like the offensive line of the opposite side. Right, they
got to get the pressure right, They got to make
it where it's really challenging. So then the corners can
play free, you know, when they know that, you know,
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there's getting a lot of pressure from their interior and
the outside. You know, now I can play with a
little bit more leniency.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I wonder if Coward is a slight favorite going at
But again, you're gonna split reps up. You're gonna be
rotating guys. It's not like any of these guys, even
if they won the job, it's gonna be playing seventy snaps.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Well, yeah, I think there is an understanding that if
a coach brings a guy that he's going to like
him a little bit more. But what I will say though,
is that a lot of times some guys fall into
that trap and think, well, you know another coach and
I got a personal response, a personal relationship with him,
like you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Set for me.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
So you know, as a player, you gotta be careful
thinking that way. And you know, as a young guy,
if you see that, you know you just got You
just gotta play hard and you know, find your time.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
What do you make of Will McDonald's who played about
two thirty five to thirty six last year, putting on
fifteen pounds of muscle in all season.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
No, that's deep.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I mean I think for him, I'm looking forward to
see how he improves on last year, right, Like it
was exciting to see Jermaine Johnson make the step and
it was even more exciting to see Will McDonald because
I think he was doubted even more, especially on his side,
so to come out and get those sacks like he did.
You know, I can't wait to see what he does
with more weight on him right in a new defense. Uh,
you know, so that's gonna be him and Jermaine Johnson together,
(22:02):
you know, giving that Jermaine comes back healthy, it's gonna
be exciting.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Ten and a half sacks last year. What are you
making the number change for Will? Going to number nine?
You like that?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I mean, sometimes you gotta go back to your roots,
you know. Yeah, you gotta go back to your roots
and maybe that'll kind of bring The game is mental.
A lot of it is mental. So if you can
kind of put yourself back in that mind space where
you were the most confident, you know, there's a reason
why you were drafted at the position you were, and
maybe it'll really take you to another level.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
And Will's gonna help or my member going to another
level and we're gonna be able to watch that throughout
training camp. Those guys with the pads on going toe
to toe. You mentioned Jermaine before coming off to Achilles.
That was a devastating injury for the defense that happened
in week two last year. His mindset is unbelievable and
(22:52):
he provides an element of a nastiness and he plays
the game so passionately, and he's got a pretty unique
skill set, as AG said, because he's athletic, but he
also can you know, set that edge and he's a
big dude. What do you think about him during camp
(23:13):
because AG has been clear about that, Hey, he might
start camp on the pup list, but he'll be ready
in week one and he'll be teeing off trying to
get Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, I mean, we've seen now in the over the
past few years a couple of guys on this team
with the Achilles obviously, you know Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
And you have a v T as well.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
So av T was able to come back and play right,
and so you know, those young guys have a better
opportunity to bounce back. You know, I think av T
was a little bit more protected being in an interior guy,
whereas you know a guy like Jamain Johnson, he's more
out in the edge. You know, there's no real protection
so to say. But you know, I think it'll be
up to him. It sounds like he's working hard, right
The guy's documenting his recovery process, you know, and so
(23:53):
whether it's pupp or right on active, as soon as
he gets back, you know, I think he's going to
be hungry.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Rashad Weaver he played pretty well this spring. I mean
he was popping again. No pads out there, and the
quarterbacks are protected. He had five and a half sacks
with the Titans back in twenty twenty two, so we're
not far removed from that. And the Jets also drafted
Tyler Barron out of Miami late so we'll have to
(24:20):
see what he can do in camp. Getting back to
the cornerback position. When you talked about Stevens Michael Carter,
what about a Z Thomas. Yeah, the physicality he brings
to the table and also the size, because this has
been an emphasis here for these guys like ag played
at five nine said Hey, I want my cornerbacks big, right.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Yeah, No, I mean I think that's I like that pick.
You know, when I watch his film, he's a real
physical guy. Re a lanky guy, right, a guy that
will keep you right in front of you, and that
disrupts timing right, Like a lot of times we always
make fun of dbs whenever they you know, it's an incompletion,
the balls thrown way out of the way and they
do this like as if they made a big play.
But ultimately the offensive side, it's all about timing. So
(25:00):
if you can disrupt that timing, you can really disrupt
the whole play, you know, So you're going to have
those opportunities to celebrate. And so if he can do that,
and I think that's what they're looking for him to do.
I remember on his phone call the draft, they told
him to be nasty or something like that, you know,
really be, So, yeah, that's what they want him to be.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And then a couple other guys who are going to
try to make in roads here JBC Jerk, Bernard Converse,
who I thought had a good camp last year, and
then Quantest Stake mays we should not forget about him
as well.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, that's a guy that can also play special teams.
He did a little bit of it last year. But yeah,
another physical corner. So that's where they're going. That's the
type of guy that they're looking for. So you know,
it'll be good to kind of watch that battle all right.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Before we get to Steve Wilkes, what about the marrying
of philosophies. You mentioned it before, got Aaron Glenn who
might have operated or called it a little bit differently
than Wilkes. What do you think when you put their
heads together and what we're ultimately going to see.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, I think we're gonn to see a good marriage
of the two defenses, right, and I think there's gonna
be a lot of similarities, right, and so for the
terminology would be the toughest thing, you know, coming from
one defense and now this's a new one. But I
think it's going to still be aggressive. You know, I
think they're still going to find ways to make plays
and find ways to make it cohesive.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, and again stopping to run, taking the football away,
and these are two things that you go back. Wilkes
has had tremendous success getting to the quarterback and we
saw that from Detroit as far as their rise is concerned.
Obviously to draft Hutchinson and that changed the dynamic, but
(26:39):
ag stayed true to what he wanted even with the injury. Yes,
that's what I'm saying. Like last year, it was impressive
what Aaron did last year in Detroit. So I ultimately
think defensively could be very much the Jets could be
very much help by what's gonna happen on offense, because
(27:02):
I think an ideal, an ideal situation, the Jets are
holding onto the ball because they're grinding on teams with
the run game, they're pounding the rock. That means time
of possession. That means the guys are not on the
field as much. Because you're going from a philosophy offensively
to hey, we're gonna throw the ball a lot to
(27:23):
more balance, and when you have more balance, I think
ultimately is gonna help the guys on the other side
the ball.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, balance is the key word there because last year
there wasn't a lot of balance offense, defense or a
special team. So I think that's what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
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All right, it's time for my extra point. Aaron Glenn
and Steve Wilks are going to challenge this Jets defense,
(27:55):
which has pro bowlers at every level, to find another gear.
You know, the Jets will field a very fast unit
and that is something you can't coach. Glenn and Wilkes
are going to demand that they have a good tackling
group who takes the ball away. Elite defenses pillage, and
we're going to hear more about play style than playbook.
(28:19):
My defensive takeaway is the Jets are going to mass
more takeaways in twenty twenty five. So long until next time.
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