August 8, 2025 • 30 mins
Host Eric Allen is joined in the studio by four Jets legends from the offensive side of the ball - Hall of Famer Kevin Mawae, Jason Fibini, Adrian Murell, Jerald Sowell. The four talk about seeing their former teammate Aaron Glenn take over as head coach of the Green & White, discuss how well of job he's done thus far into training camp and breakdown what they have seen from the 2025 Jets.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Aaron Glenn is in his first training camp as head
coach of the New York Jets. Of course, a former
first round pick of the Green and White back in
nineteen ninety four. This is his twenty ninth training camp
in the National Football League and this is home. Recently
a number of AG's former teammates came out to practice.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
They took it all in and then I had an.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Opportunity to speak with Hall of Famer Kevin Mawatt, Jason Fabini,
Gerald Sole, and Adrian Morale after practice.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
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going to win. Next Sundays.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
So, fell As, what was it like coming back today
starting with you?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Adrian?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Well, I enjoyed it. You know, Aaron obviously is a
guy that we grew up together as a Jet thinking
about all those plans and desires to be champions, you know,
and to you know, see it come full circle is amazing.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Jay, I agree. Uh, you know, as a teammate with him.
I actually was a teammate with him in Dallas too.
I found out today you didn't remember that.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I was learned that when you were at the podium,
you really don't remember.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
I vaguely did and we we we we verified it.
But Google Google.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yeah, but uh no, I think you know, me and
Kevin were talking earlier too. I mean, the guy guy's deserving.
He put in his time. He started as a scout,
he was a great player, kind of worked his way
through and uh, you know what a career he's had,
you know, coaching the last couple of years in Detroit
been awesome and I can't wait to see what he does.
Just his little speech out there to the team about
(02:01):
you know, just about you know, football is football. It
hasn't changed over the years. You know, you play the game,
you play it the same way, and you got to
have passion and desire. And I think I'm excited for
the season.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm exactly the same way, you know, having I was
in the same draft class as Aaron. I played against
a couple of times in college, I mede lsu him
at text A and M so kind of cross paths
up till ninety eight when we were on the same
team together, and just to watch how he's professionalism in
the locker room, how he prepared the game, how he
played the game, and it was no surprise at whatever
(02:34):
he did he'd have success in it. But to know
that he started off as a scout, worked his way up,
he earned his right into the position of a head coach,
and we're all excited for him, the excitement and the
passionate that he had out there, and he said it best.
You know, it's like there's talent everywhere, but the thing
that separates the good teams from the great teams of
these guys that figure out together how to get through
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the tough things when you have a slump or you know,
having a tough practice or whatever. That it's about the guys.
You know, the plane can only fly, but it's the
whole top gun Maverick thing is there's only so much
of the plane can do, but the rest of it
depends on the pilot. And it's kind of the same
thing with the team. You know, you have all this talent,
and talent means nothing if you can't work together. So
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the culture of this program being able to fight the
tough stuff, the passionate he has for it because he
owns it, because he helped build this franchise, you know somewhat,
And so I think anytime you go back to coach
somewhere you grew up in, it means a whole lot
more than just another job.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Gerald, was this surreal at all for you? Being out
there on the field and watching Aaron orchestrate things.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Oh yeah, Actually, this is my first time here at
just camp. It was great to see Aaron out there
as a teammate. You know, he prepared himself in the
same manner. He was always ready, always prepared, He did
his due diligence. Watched him. But he was a detailed,
oriented guy, and that's what he's trying to put trail
(04:00):
on those young young men out there.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Attention to details, that's the key.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Everybody who I talked to today is mentioned the huddle
at the end of practice.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Oh yeah, from did you were you out there from
your vantage point?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I wasn't out there, but I've heard from a number
of people it was.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
It resonated without a doubt. I think.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Just by that you can tell he's gonna be a
motivator of men, young men, and that's great. I think
that's you know, you got to you know, you play
for yourself, but you also got to play for your teammates.
You know, That's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I think for me, having I was in somewhat in
the coaching ranks for a few years, whether the college
or high school of pros. You just don't get that
anymore from coaches in the huddle like then it's all
this is what's next for the day. Great day to
day guys, we got picking up raw it's a little
raw rab type stuff. It wasn't like challenging your men
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to step up to the occasion. And he mentioned how
the how difficult was two and fourteen and one to fifteen.
In ninety six, ninety seven and ninety eight, we go
win the AFC champion We go to the AFC Championship game,
and we went like the next three years where were contenders.
And but to have that passion and how he showed
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it in that huddle at the end of practice, you
just don't see that in the game with coaches speaking
to their players with that kind of passion as much anymore.
And that's what it was fine.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
And even I don't mean to cut you off, keV,
but even like in the drills when we were watching
standing behind watching the offensive huddle, he was on guys,
you know, on coaches, Hey, coaching, you got to coach
you guys, you guys.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, right, like, And I think he's got some of
those traits from some of the people that that that
coached him or coached us. I will say, you know,
his attention to detail, like everyone's speaking about, he's is
there and you can tell he's he's demanding his coaches
to do the same thing. All everybody's is about the
details and getting the job done. And I think that
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from what we seen today, the team's bought into it
and now they gotta they gotta continue to go and develop.
But I think that this team is gonna be something
to deal with.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Shu Gerald, can you speak to the buy in? Did
you see that as well?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah, I understand that it will be a process. It's
definitely a process that has to occur. But what he's
doing is just laying down the foundation that the guys,
you know, have to follow. He's if you're not mentally
tough and discipline, you're not gonna win many games. And
that's what he's uh stressing out there today. So at
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the end of the day, if you got a leader
that believes in that, and he believes in you as
a player, the players will do anything for you.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Can I just add one more thing about like his staff.
You know, he's got guys like Steve Wilkes on on
his staff and then and I didn't know that until
I saw him out there today. I'm from Charlotte, and
I you know, I'm seeing some of these Charlotte tins
sitting out here and I'm like, man Like, he's got
guys that think like him too, that's on his staff,
(07:02):
like Steve Wilks is not gonna uh, He's not gonna
you know, he's going to challenge them. And I think it's,
you know, from the top down, it's the challenge for
that that Aaron wants to have on his staff first.
That trickles down to the rest of the team to
I want to make sure I mentioned Adrian.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I think that's a great point because I think he's
not only going to challenge the players here, He's going
to challenge his staff.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Right, Yeah, I mean, I think that's what it's about.
I think, you know, I'm just looking at the offensive line.
Me and Kevin were looking at that, and I think
the future there. He got all these young guys, young
talented guys. They all looked you know, I mean, were
and Kevin were talking about how big they were and slender,
and you were talking about their ankles.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
And all kinds of stuff. But what about that.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
He was.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
I didn't even know that.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
But no, I think the foundation for the you know,
the offense, as you know, kind of the offense where
the team goes, is how how you do up front
on both sides of the ball. And I think there's
a bright future on the offensive side of ball with
with the line. I mean, you got some young guys there.
The tackles, you got Joe uh And and who's the
right guard, Barah Tucker.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You got John Simpson in practice today, you got a
young left tackle and old fashion he drafted are my membo.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
But let's talk about those running backs too, well, you
last think about those guys. I mean, I think that's
a it's definitely a one two punch, which I think
Aaron wants that to be a part of his DNA.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Because it feels like a one two three.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Actually that's what.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah, I think you're right, Eric. I think there's another
guy in that stable that is going to get some time.
And I think he brings a different element to the
run game. And I think I'm excited to just kind
of see them get on the field and like really
get after it.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I want to go back to like you're talking about
the coach and staff and stuff, and we're some of
the stuff you see in Aaron, the echoes, the coaches,
and I see a lot of Bill Parcels in them,
because partisan Parcels is a kind of coach. These are
the expectations for players and coaches and there's nothing less
of anything short of those expectations aren't good enough. And
he and we've seen Parcels hold his coaches accountable in
(09:12):
ways that people would offense, runs off sides, blows whistles.
We all got to run in the bubble, including the
coaching staff, you know, and coaches like the coach, you
guys are the ones responsible this. You go take a
run too, you know, like which is kind of funny,
but but you see that in them because lots of
times it's like, well, my position coach is gonna handle
it in the meeting room. No, we're gonna handle it
(09:32):
out here. We just let it all out. Everybodys'll see
our dirty laundry. And and that's sometimes. That's a lot
of times in this generation of kids. And I say
kids because these guys are twenties and thirties that they
haven't been brought up that way. You know, you don't
get called out anymore stuff like that. Well, we all
grew up with parcels. Just tell you in front of
the teams, Kevin, you suck today, you know, and then
what are you gonna do about tomorrow? And you're just like,
(09:53):
and here's the that's what Aspen. But you respected him
so much you want to tell because you let him down.
And when when you have a head coach that one
you know cares about you two, is passionate about the
pro It's not just a job for him. He's Aaron's
passionate about this. You can see it out there. Yeah,
when you see that your coach's got that buy in. Man,
I lay down everything for this dude, right, and we
(10:16):
say we all talk about man, look at it. We
got chicken skins, you know what. That's what we call it,
Hawaii chicken skins, you know. But we all get goosebumps
because Aaron's like, man, when's the last time you heard
a coach talk to his players like that? Right? You know?
And it's like it hasn't been a long time. But uh,
but that's for me. I will see that. It's like,
that's parcels all the way. That's on hundred percent parcels,
you know, and parcels would didn't yell and scream. He
(10:37):
stayed in your ear and chirped the whole time. But
when it comes to holding yourself to a higher standard
and holding everybody around you to that standard, then great
things happen. And that's how that's how they go from
one to fifteen in ninety five to play in the
AFC Championship in ninety eight took three year turnaround. Now,
I don't think it's going to take Aaron that long.
I really don't you get the O line in stinc
(10:57):
the running basket are good.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I mean, we got receiver and then you justin Phiels
if he's the guy, and even if he's not, as
long as you got a great offense line that can
protect him run the football and it opens up your
whole offense. Then hey, you know, but I'm excited about
where the future is for this.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Kevin and I were talking to all of us were
talking earlier, and Kevin was just mentioning that transition from
when we were one in fifteen to nine and seven
first year at Parceles came in to them, you know,
going thirteen and three the following year, and we're talking
about the offensive line.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Good story.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
So so that nine and seven year, remember Jeryld, we
were so we lost to Detroit the last game of
the year. It was it was an incredible game, Like
guys got hurt, like very seriously hurt out there, and
then leg broke and then Barry still goes for two thousand. Right,
but I'll never forget this. Me and Bill was walking
(11:57):
out of the tunnel after the game. I was a
little bit ahead of him, and he calls me by
my nickname, calls me a d you know I mean,
and I stopped. I slowed down, and he says, I'm
going to get you some offensive lineman next.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Unfortunately for me, he got those guys, He's gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Say, you weren't there just talking about training camp.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
We were, we were in mini camp, any camp, and because
it's him and Neil o'donald were there, and so Curtis
comes in, Neil o'donald's out, and then later in the
summer we signed Vinnie and then changed the whole dynamic
of the offense.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
But uh, but I was brought in because I was
I don't know it was amployee by Parcels at the time.
He goes, When I was in the New York Jets
or the Giants. He goes, I knew I would have
a good team and said, but not until I found
the center that I needed where we're gonna win Super
He gets bart os, they win two Super Bowls. So
he reaches back behind his desk, grabs a binder and said,
this is my top ten things I need for this offseason,
(12:54):
and the number the one thing was the center. I'm sold.
I mean, how did the guy so sold? And then
we draft Jason in that year, and then we brought
in Curtis Martin and then Vinnie. Vinnie comes in takes
over the quarterback running Todd Berger from from where he
came from Chicago, I think, and then on top of
that were bringing Keith Buyers from Philly or wherever he
(13:15):
was at the time. Brian Cox on defense, and we
just started stacking chips and then yeah, so we just
started railing them off one at a time, and then
you know, unfortunately we lost John Elway had the game
of his life in the AFC Championship game. But but
that's that's where it came. That shows you how quickly
things could turn around when you put the right pieces
(13:36):
in the puzzle.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yeah, so I think that what I seen out there
from an office of line standpoint, they got depth and
and these guys are young, and they you know, and
and hungry.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Let let's not.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Forget that when you're young, you're hungry, right right.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Right, So this is this is gonna be interesting New
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Speaker 2 (14:10):
Slash Mini plans, Gerald, what's.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
That actually like going from a team here and then
taking those next steps and then ultimately getting there.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You guys didn't get to the ultimate mountaintop, but you
flipped it. You flipped howways that As a player that experience.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I felt good.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I came in ninety seven, so I was at the
start of the turnaround. I didn't experience the one in
fifteen the year before, but being with Parcels the first year,
that was the best thing that could have ever happened
to me as a player. Getting the foundation laid early
on and I could be as high as I want to.
But believing in him was an easy task. No, you
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don't have to hesitate to do that. We'll do anything,
he would say, you said, because his system works.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
It always does.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
So we were bought in from the beginning, and if
you didn't buy made sure he got people.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
They can't shipped out.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I mean, that's kind of the kind of that's kind
of the thing though he ran out his way, and
if he didn't buy in, you weren't here. And you know,
maybe that's sometimes I think, get away from that a
little bit. And coaching these days, you know, it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Try to recoup our investments. Yeah not, or you cut
your losses and get.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
The job I wouldn't use the word baby people, but
I think there's a coaching. Coaching is different. It definitely
is the way the way everything is different.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But don't you think that the Aron that you guys know,
that you saw out there today is going to be
able to coach differently than anybody Now.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
I think I think he's put I mean, I he
the way he's starting out. You put your mold on
the team, and that's what that's what you know, it's
a expected.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, because I mean if you look at what his
previous team with Detroit, there was a standard that those
guys were developing. And that was a part of his
stamp too. That defense was all his footprint all over them.
And and that's the instill mentality that is pretty successful football.
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And you know that's the foundation that he's setting.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Forth watched it like Dan Campbell in the locker rown.
He's he's just a workhorse, old school football player who
wants to just go get it and whatever. You've seen
his speeches and it's he's a dude's dude, you know
what I'm saying. That's what and that's that's kind of
what Aaron is. He's his cornerback but he's like that,
(16:47):
you can't go to Detroit and not have some kind
of attitude about it to turn that place around as
bad as it was for the years that they were bad,
and for them to go and do what they did
there and there being a big part of that because
he's on the defense, He's going to bring that mentality
here to the New York Jets, which is perfect for
the fan base because it's always been my belief the
New York fan base is like a blue collar is
(17:08):
a blue collar fan base. You take the financial elites
and all them people that worked down on Wall Street
and they they're on the giant side. But the guys
that laid the still the concrete, you know, the ones
that are grunting in the street, and that's the New
York fan base. And that's kind of mentality that I
feel like he had in Detroit, and I saw him
as the coordinator in Detroit that he is now bringing here.
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And that's and that's really how we won games when
we made when the Jets made that turn around from
ninety seven to ninety eight, and then we went on
to have eight you know, we were together eight years
where we you know, we were freaking year and that
kind of stuff. So, I mean, I can't tell you
how excited I am about it. And now that I'm
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not in the coaching ranks and i have availability, I'm like, man,
let me read every article. I can find out what's
going on with the Jets. I want to know what's
going on with our offense line. And I'm excited to
see what's going on with Joe Tipman and Myers and
see how that plays out and the new tackle and
and Joe Justin Field's coming in and can he be
the guy that everybody thought he was when he was
with the Bears, you know, and the dynamic that he
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can bring here. And I don't know a lot about defense,
I really don't. I don't know who the guys are,
but other than Jason's like, hey, that's soft guard and.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
That's the guy.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
So I'm st Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
On the letter side, are you guys okay that we
got Jason Taylor's kidding?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (18:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Two stories. So so on draft day, the near just
text Mason Taylor and and and everybody knows like they
were just fan. My rivalry was Zach Thomas throughout the
years that we played together, and because Parsales told me
in ninety eight, we have our game plan meeting. Parceales
does the breakdown and the scouting reports. And the last
(18:54):
thing at that meeting in ninety eight was my wife,
you don't block fifty four. We're never gonna win this game.
And I be it became a personal challenge to me.
So fast forward, you know, Zach met my Hall of Fame,
and I knew it's like sometimes you just got to
pay dudes the honor they deserve. And the one guy
that I got had to get the most up for
was Zach Thomas. And not because for any other reason
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that I was never gonna let Parcels proved me wrong,
you know, and so it became that thing for me,
and it became a rivalry, and everybody in New York
and everybody knew Miami knew that was a Kevin why
Zach Thomas rivalry. And so we drafted and Zach eventually
gets into Hall of Fame, and uh so now we're
stay in touch with one another. And Zach text me
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on draft day, he goes, I guess I'm gonna have
to be a Jets fan. Noct my nephew's gonna play.
I said, yeah, I said, you can go to the
Jets game. I'll let you wear my jersey. But uh,
but yeah, but I think it's hilarious because you know,
Jason and Jason and Jason Taylor, they battled it out. Man,
they had some wars out there, and for now to
have Jason Taylor's son in the same house, it's uh,
(19:57):
you know, it's it's have nice stories to tell or
put on TV or whatever. When the time comes. Jets
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four five nine zero Other takeaways today, the secondary is
(20:28):
gonna be a spicy unit.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You got sauce.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Brandon Stevens comes over in free agency. Andre Cisco is
a guy who came over in free agency as well.
Very rangy, heady ball player. Tony Adams was making plays.
They're high on Malchi Moore rookie as well. I like
the way that he's implementing. And you mentioned Steve Wilkes before.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
These guys are gonna be aggressive.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Defensively, they're there, That's why. And that's when I when
I saw Steve was like, oh man, so Aaron has
brought in a like minded coordinator on that side of
the ball. You know that that's attacking. You know, I
don't want to call it gambling, but they put faith
in their players to make a play, you know, and
and that's what you want. Like you know, every every
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everything ain't going to be safe and and and you know, uh, analytically,
you know this play is going to work. You know,
sometimes like, hey, this is what we're going to do.
And those guys, I mean, I like what I see.
You know, it's nice.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's a mindset, right because gerald one thing that AG
has talked about is that play style over playbook.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Oh yeah, that goes without saying you have to be,
like I said, mentally tough. You have to play a
certain way if you want to be successful. You just
can't go out there when plays. You have to run
them with the attitude when with when with perfection exactly,
run with the swagger about yourself. But I'm backing them
up when he says that, So I could agree with that.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Speaking of attitude and swagger. You were on the media
out there that a.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Well we were talking about this, okay, so let's break
this down.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Let's break down the uniform.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Well, Kevin, so you have the uniform vines, right, your
shirt's gotta be tugged. Now. They got the socks, but
his socks, he would never wear socks. Right, you can
find every game it's a five thousand dollars. Fine, if
your socks aren't on right, like by rule, you're supposed.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
To have half five years ago. He knows what it is, half.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
White and then the rest up has to be your brand,
team color or whatever unless it was like a special
uniform day or whatever. He never had any green showing
it was all white or all green all the time.
It was never like half and half.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
He was like the first.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
I think d B they all do it now, but
I think A G might have been like the first
guy to get on that.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, it's like it's five grand and then it exponentially
gets It increases every time you get fined. And I
was a player rep for our team, so like I knew,
every year you get you get a list of all
the guys got found in the league and how much
money got fined. He was one of the tops on
our team. It's all you It wasn't like late hits violations.
(23:11):
It's all uniform violations. It's all socks. So that's the.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Back in the day, it's sixteen games, so that's eighty
grand whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I don't know how much he got, but it was.
I know he was the most highly fine guy on
our team because he wouldn't wear socks. The crazy thing
is like, we do everything right through the details, bro.
So yeah, it's like, you know, well, for a longest time,
Brton Hanks was the uniform violation. Well he had he
wore the worst uniform everywhere of all of them, right,
so Jason, Yeah, so his hit in his desire to
(23:40):
have dB swag, which nobody eve knew what the word
swag was back in the day. Sure dB swag he had.
The socks were all wrong, hit twenty five wrist bands
up his arm and all that kind of stuff. His jersey. Yeah,
you know, but you know what, the dude balled out,
what do you have swag?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
If you can back it up, how do you think
aaron treated player on this team was getting those fines
every week?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, as a head coach, you don't care about uniform. Fine,
it's not your problem. It doesn't hurt the team. You know,
it's the holding penalages person. Yeah, that's what I hurt
the team.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
So did you you guys flash back today as far
as practices are concerned, on training camp is much different
when you guys, Yeah, this was like.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
About coming back for the second So I fly in
at five thirty last night, going to the hotel right
down the road. It's seven thirty. These boys will be
in meetings up ten o'clock to night. I'm looking out
my window. Dudes are down by the pool. It's seven
forty five. One dude's eating the pizza, another guy's watching video.
I'm like, is this training camp or club med? And
so we were talking like, man, we had two parcels
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will tell you we come in three weeks of two days,
like full pad of two days, no break, both at
both practices, and then you come back and you having meetings,
nerves beings from seven to nine thirty. Parceles will tell
you there's no light at the end of the tunnel,
and if you think that light's there, that's just a
train coming right back at you. And so these guys
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this is club med man, But this is the most
hitting I've ever seen. Yeah, in the NFL practice I've
been to in the most recent time, and they were
popping past and it was competitive.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Well what I saw I think Rich Semini said something
last a couple of days while I was watching online
and he said that they actually tackled live in practice
last week. He said, this first time he's seen it
in like twelve like the last ten or twelve years
has been to cover practice.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Well, yeah, they had one.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I want tackling drills out there again today. Oh yeah,
because Aaron Glene continues to emphasize space, like he wants
his playmakers to be able to make some plays and
get out there in the open field. But he's going
to demand you guys notice that the defense is elite
tackling unit.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Well, one thing I will say, didn't Detroit get fined
last year or a couple of years ago for hitting exit?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
You know they were they were hating a practice fun.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Because they kept they kept And I will say this again,
Eric comes from that school, like like, okay, we all
played for Bill Bill. I can remember it was well
into the season and we're hitting on a Friday yeah,
and he said, and he would tell you, I know
when to let up off you guys.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Friday Friday evening, we got we're getting on the bust
of all on Friday morning.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
But were there times when you hated him?
Speaker 7 (26:37):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I think you hated sometimes you hated the practice, you
hated the schedule, you hated the idea that you got
to put pads on again in twelve hours from howur whatever,
eight hours or whatever. But you never hated Bill because
you bought in. You just know when it works, it works,
and it makes you tougher, and as this season goes
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on and makes you mentally tough.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I just think the most impressive thing here is that
you can tell that the players have completely bought in
from the git with Aaron, and I just wanted to
hear how much did it resonate with you guys When
He's up to the podium last week and saying it
hit me man. I'm out there on the field and
I hear the Jets chant and I'm looking up there
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and I'm seeing people who rooted for me when I
was a player. This is decades ago, and you can
see the emotion, the tears in his eyes how much
does that resonate with you guys.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Well, he's got I mean, yeah, he's got the fate
of the jet Nation to restore some relevancy and hey,
we want to do something from nineteen sixty nine, right,
So when he's saying he's felt that, that's what he's feeling, you.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
We saw him walking in when we was driving in
this morning. I rode with Cascat and he was going
on his walk. I mean, and I know, Aaron, Aaron,
like you know, we he come to my house with
our kids, like like we that's and he's focused.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, we saw on our boat focus.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
And then I like and it's.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Like, hey, all right, I see yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Yeah, he's a different he's got to he's he's he's
ready to do something big.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah. And then for me, it's just to seeing a
guy that was a locker room guy, a locker roommate
to you know, as sind to where he's at now.
And it wasn't because he didn't get his foot in
the door because of family ties or anything like that.
He asked to get in. He started as a scout
and went through the whole process. And I can understand.
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I understand how he could say because people have cheered
for him. I mean, there's twenty four, it was twenty four,
Remember he was thirty one, and there's there's still people
wearing his jersey and then come out I have those
same people be the one's cheering them on as the
head coach. Man, it's got to be something. It's got
to be something special. And like I know how I
feel when I come back to New York and people
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still recognize me and tell me welcome home. And I
haven't been in New York in eight years, So imagine
what he feels is exponentially greater than what we feel
as former players who played eight years and saving eight
years with the team. He's coming for him, it's coming
back home and it's coming to lead your team. You know,
it'd be a kin to him going to Texa A
and m being a head coach, or me going LSU,
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or Jason going to Cincinnati, or any of us going
you know, Tulane, you know whatever, West Virginia. If we
step into my hometown and become the head coach there,
it's something different and it means something special to you
the person, and to everybody else and for for Jason.
I mean, for Aaron, he's got to know that all
his teammates are behind him on this one, because we
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all feel the same vi about this organization, about want
we want him to win, we want the organization to win,
and we want Aaron Glenn to be the guy to
do it.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
It certainly means more.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Uh, guys, welcome back, welcome home, and I'm sure we'll
be seen this soon.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Always very cool. Catching up with a number of Jets legends.
They're pumped that Aaron Glenn is the head coach of
the Green and White training camp rolling on here. So
look for us soon because we're going to give you
an update on all things happening with the current team.
Aaron Glenn is in his first training camp as head
coach of the New York Jets. Of course, a former
first round pick of the Green and White back in
nineteen ninety four. This is his twenty ninth training camp
in the National Football League and this is home. Recently
a number of AG's former teammates came out to practice.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
They took it all in and then I had an.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Opportunity to speak with Hall of Famer Kevin Mawatt, Jason Fabini,
Gerald Sole, and Adrian Morale after practice.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
So, fell As, what was it like coming back today
starting with you?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Adrian?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Well, I enjoyed it. You know, Aaron obviously is a
guy that we grew up together as a Jet thinking
about all those plans and desires to be champions, you know,
and to you know, see it come full circle is amazing.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Jay, I agree. Uh, you know, as a teammate with him.
I actually was a teammate with him in Dallas too.
I found out today you didn't remember that.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I was learned that when you were at the podium,
you really don't remember.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
I vaguely did and we we we we verified it.
But Google Google.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yeah, but uh no, I think you know, me and
Kevin were talking earlier too. I mean, the guy guy's deserving.
He put in his time. He started as a scout,
he was a great player, kind of worked his way
through and uh, you know what a career he's had,
you know, coaching the last couple of years in Detroit
been awesome and I can't wait to see what he does.
Just his little speech out there to the team about
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you know, just about you know, football is football. It
hasn't changed over the years. You know, you play the game,
you play it the same way, and you got to
have passion and desire. And I think I'm excited for
the season.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm exactly the same way, you know, having I was
in the same draft class as Aaron. I played against
a couple of times in college, I mede lsu him
at text A and M so kind of cross paths
up till ninety eight when we were on the same
team together, and just to watch how he's professionalism in
the locker room, how he prepared the game, how he
played the game, and it was no surprise at whatever
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he did he'd have success in it. But to know
that he started off as a scout, worked his way up,
he earned his right into the position of a head coach,
and we're all excited for him, the excitement and the
passionate that he had out there, and he said it best.
You know, it's like there's talent everywhere, but the thing
that separates the good teams from the great teams of
these guys that figure out together how to get through
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the tough things when you have a slump or you know,
having a tough practice or whatever. That it's about the guys.
You know, the plane can only fly, but it's the
whole top gun Maverick thing is there's only so much
of the plane can do, but the rest of it
depends on the pilot. And it's kind of the same
thing with the team. You know, you have all this talent,
and talent means nothing if you can't work together. So
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the culture of this program being able to fight the
tough stuff, the passionate he has for it because he
owns it, because he helped build this franchise, you know somewhat,
And so I think anytime you go back to coach
somewhere you grew up in, it means a whole lot
more than just another job.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Gerald, was this surreal at all for you? Being out
there on the field and watching Aaron orchestrate things.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Oh yeah, Actually, this is my first time here at
just camp. It was great to see Aaron out there
as a teammate. You know, he prepared himself in the
same manner. He was always ready, always prepared, He did
his due diligence. Watched him. But he was a detailed,
oriented guy, and that's what he's trying to put trail
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on those young young men out there.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Attention to details, that's the key.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Everybody who I talked to today is mentioned the huddle
at the end of practice.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Oh yeah, from did you were you out there from
your vantage point?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I wasn't out there, but I've heard from a number
of people it was.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
It resonated without a doubt. I think.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Just by that you can tell he's gonna be a
motivator of men, young men, and that's great. I think
that's you know, you got to you know, you play
for yourself, but you also got to play for your teammates.
You know, That's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I think for me, having I was in somewhat in
the coaching ranks for a few years, whether the college
or high school of pros. You just don't get that
anymore from coaches in the huddle like then it's all
this is what's next for the day. Great day to
day guys, we got picking up raw it's a little
raw rab type stuff. It wasn't like challenging your men
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to step up to the occasion. And he mentioned how
the how difficult was two and fourteen and one to fifteen.
In ninety six, ninety seven and ninety eight, we go
win the AFC champion We go to the AFC Championship game,
and we went like the next three years where were contenders.
And but to have that passion and how he showed
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it in that huddle at the end of practice, you
just don't see that in the game with coaches speaking
to their players with that kind of passion as much anymore.
And that's what it was fine.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
And even I don't mean to cut you off, keV,
but even like in the drills when we were watching
standing behind watching the offensive huddle, he was on guys,
you know, on coaches, Hey, coaching, you got to coach
you guys, you guys.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, right, like, And I think he's got some of
those traits from some of the people that that that
coached him or coached us. I will say, you know,
his attention to detail, like everyone's speaking about, he's is
there and you can tell he's he's demanding his coaches
to do the same thing. All everybody's is about the
details and getting the job done. And I think that
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from what we seen today, the team's bought into it
and now they gotta they gotta continue to go and develop.
But I think that this team is gonna be something
to deal with.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Shu Gerald, can you speak to the buy in? Did
you see that as well?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah, I understand that it will be a process. It's
definitely a process that has to occur. But what he's
doing is just laying down the foundation that the guys,
you know, have to follow. He's if you're not mentally
tough and discipline, you're not gonna win many games. And
that's what he's uh stressing out there today. So at
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the end of the day, if you got a leader
that believes in that, and he believes in you as
a player, the players will do anything for you.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Can I just add one more thing about like his staff.
You know, he's got guys like Steve Wilkes on on
his staff and then and I didn't know that until
I saw him out there today. I'm from Charlotte, and
I you know, I'm seeing some of these Charlotte tins
sitting out here and I'm like, man Like, he's got
guys that think like him too, that's on his staff,
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like Steve Wilks is not gonna uh, He's not gonna
you know, he's going to challenge them. And I think it's,
you know, from the top down, it's the challenge for
that that Aaron wants to have on his staff first.
That trickles down to the rest of the team to
I want to make sure I mentioned Adrian.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I think that's a great point because I think he's
not only going to challenge the players here, He's going
to challenge his staff.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Right, Yeah, I mean, I think that's what it's about.
I think, you know, I'm just looking at the offensive line.
Me and Kevin were looking at that, and I think
the future there. He got all these young guys, young
talented guys. They all looked you know, I mean, were
and Kevin were talking about how big they were and slender,
and you were talking about their ankles.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
And all kinds of stuff. But what about that.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
He was.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
I didn't even know that.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
But no, I think the foundation for the you know,
the offense, as you know, kind of the offense where
the team goes, is how how you do up front
on both sides of the ball. And I think there's
a bright future on the offensive side of ball with
with the line. I mean, you got some young guys there.
The tackles, you got Joe uh And and who's the
right guard, Barah Tucker.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You got John Simpson in practice today, you got a
young left tackle and old fashion he drafted are my membo.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
But let's talk about those running backs too, well, you
last think about those guys. I mean, I think that's
a it's definitely a one two punch, which I think
Aaron wants that to be a part of his DNA.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Because it feels like a one two three.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Actually that's what.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah, I think you're right, Eric. I think there's another
guy in that stable that is going to get some time.
And I think he brings a different element to the
run game. And I think I'm excited to just kind
of see them get on the field and like really
get after it.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I want to go back to like you're talking about
the coach and staff and stuff, and we're some of
the stuff you see in Aaron, the echoes, the coaches,
and I see a lot of Bill Parcels in them,
because partisan Parcels is a kind of coach. These are
the expectations for players and coaches and there's nothing less
of anything short of those expectations aren't good enough. And
he and we've seen Parcels hold his coaches accountable in
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ways that people would offense, runs off sides, blows whistles.
We all got to run in the bubble, including the
coaching staff, you know, and coaches like the coach, you
guys are the ones responsible this. You go take a
run too, you know, like which is kind of funny,
but but you see that in them because lots of
times it's like, well, my position coach is gonna handle
it in the meeting room. No, we're gonna handle it
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out here. We just let it all out. Everybodys'll see
our dirty laundry. And and that's sometimes. That's a lot
of times in this generation of kids. And I say
kids because these guys are twenties and thirties that they
haven't been brought up that way. You know, you don't
get called out anymore stuff like that. Well, we all
grew up with parcels. Just tell you in front of
the teams, Kevin, you suck today, you know, and then
what are you gonna do about tomorrow? And you're just like,
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and here's the that's what Aspen. But you respected him
so much you want to tell because you let him down.
And when when you have a head coach that one
you know cares about you two, is passionate about the
pro It's not just a job for him. He's Aaron's
passionate about this. You can see it out there. Yeah,
when you see that your coach's got that buy in. Man,
I lay down everything for this dude, right, and we
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say we all talk about man, look at it. We
got chicken skins, you know what. That's what we call it,
Hawaii chicken skins, you know. But we all get goosebumps
because Aaron's like, man, when's the last time you heard
a coach talk to his players like that? Right? You know?
And it's like it hasn't been a long time. But uh,
but that's for me. I will see that. It's like,
that's parcels all the way. That's on hundred percent parcels,
you know, and parcels would didn't yell and scream. He
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stayed in your ear and chirped the whole time. But
when it comes to holding yourself to a higher standard
and holding everybody around you to that standard, then great
things happen. And that's how that's how they go from
one to fifteen in ninety five to play in the
AFC Championship in ninety eight took three year turnaround. Now,
I don't think it's going to take Aaron that long.
I really don't you get the O line in stinc
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the running basket are good.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I mean, we got receiver and then you justin Phiels
if he's the guy, and even if he's not, as
long as you got a great offense line that can
protect him run the football and it opens up your
whole offense. Then hey, you know, but I'm excited about
where the future is for this.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Kevin and I were talking to all of us were
talking earlier, and Kevin was just mentioning that transition from
when we were one in fifteen to nine and seven
first year at Parceles came in to them, you know,
going thirteen and three the following year, and we're talking
about the offensive line.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Good story.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
So so that nine and seven year, remember Jeryld, we
were so we lost to Detroit the last game of
the year. It was it was an incredible game, Like
guys got hurt, like very seriously hurt out there, and
then leg broke and then Barry still goes for two thousand. Right,
but I'll never forget this. Me and Bill was walking
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out of the tunnel after the game. I was a
little bit ahead of him, and he calls me by
my nickname, calls me a d you know I mean,
and I stopped. I slowed down, and he says, I'm
going to get you some offensive lineman next.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Unfortunately for me, he got those guys, He's gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Say, you weren't there just talking about training camp.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
We were, we were in mini camp, any camp, and because
it's him and Neil o'donald were there, and so Curtis
comes in, Neil o'donald's out, and then later in the
summer we signed Vinnie and then changed the whole dynamic
of the offense.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
But uh, but I was brought in because I was
I don't know it was amployee by Parcels at the time.
He goes, When I was in the New York Jets
or the Giants. He goes, I knew I would have
a good team and said, but not until I found
the center that I needed where we're gonna win Super
He gets bart os, they win two Super Bowls. So
he reaches back behind his desk, grabs a binder and said,
this is my top ten things I need for this offseason,
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and the number the one thing was the center. I'm sold.
I mean, how did the guy so sold? And then
we draft Jason in that year, and then we brought
in Curtis Martin and then Vinnie. Vinnie comes in takes
over the quarterback running Todd Berger from from where he
came from Chicago, I think, and then on top of
that were bringing Keith Buyers from Philly or wherever he
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was at the time. Brian Cox on defense, and we
just started stacking chips and then yeah, so we just
started railing them off one at a time, and then
you know, unfortunately we lost John Elway had the game
of his life in the AFC Championship game. But but
that's that's where it came. That shows you how quickly
things could turn around when you put the right pieces
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in the puzzle.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yeah, so I think that what I seen out there
from an office of line standpoint, they got depth and
and these guys are young, and they you know, and
and hungry.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Let let's not.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Forget that when you're young, you're hungry, right right.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
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Speaker 2 (14:10):
Slash Mini plans, Gerald, what's.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
That actually like going from a team here and then
taking those next steps and then ultimately getting there.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You guys didn't get to the ultimate mountaintop, but you
flipped it. You flipped howways that As a player that experience.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I felt good.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I came in ninety seven, so I was at the
start of the turnaround. I didn't experience the one in
fifteen the year before, but being with Parcels the first year,
that was the best thing that could have ever happened
to me as a player. Getting the foundation laid early
on and I could be as high as I want to.
But believing in him was an easy task. No, you
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don't have to hesitate to do that. We'll do anything,
he would say, you said, because his system works.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
It always does.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
So we were bought in from the beginning, and if
you didn't buy made sure he got people.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
They can't shipped out.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I mean, that's kind of the kind of that's kind
of the thing though he ran out his way, and
if he didn't buy in, you weren't here. And you know,
maybe that's sometimes I think, get away from that a
little bit. And coaching these days, you know, it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Try to recoup our investments. Yeah not, or you cut
your losses and get.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
The job I wouldn't use the word baby people, but
I think there's a coaching. Coaching is different. It definitely
is the way the way everything is different.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But don't you think that the Aron that you guys know,
that you saw out there today is going to be
able to coach differently than anybody Now.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
I think I think he's put I mean, I he
the way he's starting out. You put your mold on
the team, and that's what that's what you know, it's
a expected.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, because I mean if you look at what his
previous team with Detroit, there was a standard that those
guys were developing. And that was a part of his
stamp too. That defense was all his footprint all over them.
And and that's the instill mentality that is pretty successful football.
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And you know that's the foundation that he's setting.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Forth watched it like Dan Campbell in the locker rown.
He's he's just a workhorse, old school football player who
wants to just go get it and whatever. You've seen
his speeches and it's he's a dude's dude, you know
what I'm saying. That's what and that's that's kind of
what Aaron is. He's his cornerback but he's like that,
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you can't go to Detroit and not have some kind
of attitude about it to turn that place around as
bad as it was for the years that they were bad,
and for them to go and do what they did
there and there being a big part of that because
he's on the defense, He's going to bring that mentality
here to the New York Jets, which is perfect for
the fan base because it's always been my belief the
New York fan base is like a blue collar is
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a blue collar fan base. You take the financial elites
and all them people that worked down on Wall Street
and they they're on the giant side. But the guys
that laid the still the concrete, you know, the ones
that are grunting in the street, and that's the New
York fan base. And that's kind of mentality that I
feel like he had in Detroit, and I saw him
as the coordinator in Detroit that he is now bringing here.
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And that's and that's really how we won games when
we made when the Jets made that turn around from
ninety seven to ninety eight, and then we went on
to have eight you know, we were together eight years
where we you know, we were freaking year and that
kind of stuff. So, I mean, I can't tell you
how excited I am about it. And now that I'm
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not in the coaching ranks and i have availability, I'm like, man,
let me read every article. I can find out what's
going on with the Jets. I want to know what's
going on with our offense line. And I'm excited to
see what's going on with Joe Tipman and Myers and
see how that plays out and the new tackle and
and Joe Justin Field's coming in and can he be
the guy that everybody thought he was when he was
with the Bears, you know, and the dynamic that he
(18:12):
can bring here. And I don't know a lot about defense,
I really don't. I don't know who the guys are,
but other than Jason's like, hey, that's soft guard and.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
That's the guy.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
So I'm st Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
On the letter side, are you guys okay that we
got Jason Taylor's kidding?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (18:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Two stories. So so on draft day, the near just
text Mason Taylor and and and everybody knows like they
were just fan. My rivalry was Zach Thomas throughout the
years that we played together, and because Parsales told me
in ninety eight, we have our game plan meeting. Parceales
does the breakdown and the scouting reports. And the last
(18:54):
thing at that meeting in ninety eight was my wife,
you don't block fifty four. We're never gonna win this game.
And I be it became a personal challenge to me.
So fast forward, you know, Zach met my Hall of Fame,
and I knew it's like sometimes you just got to
pay dudes the honor they deserve. And the one guy
that I got had to get the most up for
was Zach Thomas. And not because for any other reason
(19:15):
that I was never gonna let Parcels proved me wrong,
you know, and so it became that thing for me,
and it became a rivalry, and everybody in New York
and everybody knew Miami knew that was a Kevin why
Zach Thomas rivalry. And so we drafted and Zach eventually
gets into Hall of Fame, and uh so now we're
stay in touch with one another. And Zach text me
(19:35):
on draft day, he goes, I guess I'm gonna have
to be a Jets fan. Noct my nephew's gonna play.
I said, yeah, I said, you can go to the
Jets game. I'll let you wear my jersey. But uh,
but yeah, but I think it's hilarious because you know,
Jason and Jason and Jason Taylor, they battled it out. Man,
they had some wars out there, and for now to
have Jason Taylor's son in the same house, it's uh,
(19:57):
you know, it's it's have nice stories to tell or
put on TV or whatever. When the time comes. Jets
game day is better together.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Bring a group of six or more to MetLife Stadium
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slash groups or call nine seventy three five four nine
four five nine zero Other takeaways today, the secondary is
(20:28):
gonna be a spicy unit.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You got sauce.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Brandon Stevens comes over in free agency. Andre Cisco is
a guy who came over in free agency as well.
Very rangy, heady ball player. Tony Adams was making plays.
They're high on Malchi Moore rookie as well. I like
the way that he's implementing. And you mentioned Steve Wilkes before.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
These guys are gonna be aggressive.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Defensively, they're there, That's why. And that's when I when
I saw Steve was like, oh man, so Aaron has
brought in a like minded coordinator on that side of
the ball. You know that that's attacking. You know, I
don't want to call it gambling, but they put faith
in their players to make a play, you know, and
and that's what you want. Like you know, every every
(21:14):
everything ain't going to be safe and and and you know, uh, analytically,
you know this play is going to work. You know,
sometimes like, hey, this is what we're going to do.
And those guys, I mean, I like what I see.
You know, it's nice.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's a mindset, right because gerald one thing that AG
has talked about is that play style over playbook.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Oh yeah, that goes without saying you have to be,
like I said, mentally tough. You have to play a
certain way if you want to be successful. You just
can't go out there when plays. You have to run
them with the attitude when with when with perfection exactly,
run with the swagger about yourself. But I'm backing them
up when he says that, So I could agree with that.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Speaking of attitude and swagger. You were on the media
out there that a.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Well we were talking about this, okay, so let's break
this down.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Let's break down the uniform.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Well, Kevin, so you have the uniform vines, right, your
shirt's gotta be tugged. Now. They got the socks, but
his socks, he would never wear socks. Right, you can
find every game it's a five thousand dollars. Fine, if
your socks aren't on right, like by rule, you're supposed.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
To have half five years ago. He knows what it is, half.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
White and then the rest up has to be your brand,
team color or whatever unless it was like a special
uniform day or whatever. He never had any green showing
it was all white or all green all the time.
It was never like half and half.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
He was like the first.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
I think d B they all do it now, but
I think A G might have been like the first
guy to get on that.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, it's like it's five grand and then it exponentially
gets It increases every time you get fined. And I
was a player rep for our team, so like I knew,
every year you get you get a list of all
the guys got found in the league and how much
money got fined. He was one of the tops on
our team. It's all you It wasn't like late hits violations.
(23:11):
It's all uniform violations. It's all socks. So that's the.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Back in the day, it's sixteen games, so that's eighty
grand whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I don't know how much he got, but it was.
I know he was the most highly fine guy on
our team because he wouldn't wear socks. The crazy thing
is like, we do everything right through the details, bro.
So yeah, it's like, you know, well, for a longest time,
Brton Hanks was the uniform violation. Well he had he
wore the worst uniform everywhere of all of them, right,
so Jason, Yeah, so his hit in his desire to
(23:40):
have dB swag, which nobody eve knew what the word
swag was back in the day. Sure dB swag he had.
The socks were all wrong, hit twenty five wrist bands
up his arm and all that kind of stuff. His jersey. Yeah,
you know, but you know what, the dude balled out,
what do you have swag?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
If you can back it up, how do you think
aaron treated player on this team was getting those fines
every week?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, as a head coach, you don't care about uniform. Fine,
it's not your problem. It doesn't hurt the team. You know,
it's the holding penalages person. Yeah, that's what I hurt
the team.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
So did you you guys flash back today as far
as practices are concerned, on training camp is much different
when you guys, Yeah, this was like.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
About coming back for the second So I fly in
at five thirty last night, going to the hotel right
down the road. It's seven thirty. These boys will be
in meetings up ten o'clock to night. I'm looking out
my window. Dudes are down by the pool. It's seven
forty five. One dude's eating the pizza, another guy's watching video.
I'm like, is this training camp or club med? And
so we were talking like, man, we had two parcels
(24:50):
will tell you we come in three weeks of two days,
like full pad of two days, no break, both at
both practices, and then you come back and you having meetings,
nerves beings from seven to nine thirty. Parceles will tell
you there's no light at the end of the tunnel,
and if you think that light's there, that's just a
train coming right back at you. And so these guys
(25:10):
this is club med man, But this is the most
hitting I've ever seen. Yeah, in the NFL practice I've
been to in the most recent time, and they were
popping past and it was competitive.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Well what I saw I think Rich Semini said something
last a couple of days while I was watching online
and he said that they actually tackled live in practice
last week. He said, this first time he's seen it
in like twelve like the last ten or twelve years
has been to cover practice.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Well, yeah, they had one.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I want tackling drills out there again today. Oh yeah,
because Aaron Glene continues to emphasize space, like he wants
his playmakers to be able to make some plays and
get out there in the open field. But he's going
to demand you guys notice that the defense is elite
tackling unit.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Well, one thing I will say, didn't Detroit get fined
last year or a couple of years ago for hitting exit?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
You know they were they were hating a practice fun.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Because they kept they kept And I will say this again,
Eric comes from that school, like like, okay, we all
played for Bill Bill. I can remember it was well
into the season and we're hitting on a Friday yeah,
and he said, and he would tell you, I know
when to let up off you guys.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Friday Friday evening, we got we're getting on the bust
of all on Friday morning.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
But were there times when you hated him?
Speaker 7 (26:37):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I think you hated sometimes you hated the practice, you
hated the schedule, you hated the idea that you got
to put pads on again in twelve hours from howur whatever,
eight hours or whatever. But you never hated Bill because
you bought in. You just know when it works, it works,
and it makes you tougher, and as this season goes
(27:00):
on and makes you mentally tough.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I just think the most impressive thing here is that
you can tell that the players have completely bought in
from the git with Aaron, and I just wanted to
hear how much did it resonate with you guys When
He's up to the podium last week and saying it
hit me man. I'm out there on the field and
I hear the Jets chant and I'm looking up there
(27:22):
and I'm seeing people who rooted for me when I
was a player. This is decades ago, and you can
see the emotion, the tears in his eyes how much
does that resonate with you guys.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Well, he's got I mean, yeah, he's got the fate
of the jet Nation to restore some relevancy and hey,
we want to do something from nineteen sixty nine, right,
So when he's saying he's felt that, that's what he's feeling, you.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
We saw him walking in when we was driving in
this morning. I rode with Cascat and he was going
on his walk. I mean, and I know, Aaron, Aaron,
like you know, we he come to my house with
our kids, like like we that's and he's focused.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, we saw on our boat focus.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
And then I like and it's.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Like, hey, all right, I see yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Yeah, he's a different he's got to he's he's he's
ready to do something big.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah. And then for me, it's just to seeing a
guy that was a locker room guy, a locker roommate
to you know, as sind to where he's at now.
And it wasn't because he didn't get his foot in
the door because of family ties or anything like that.
He asked to get in. He started as a scout
and went through the whole process. And I can understand.
(28:48):
I understand how he could say because people have cheered
for him. I mean, there's twenty four, it was twenty four,
Remember he was thirty one, and there's there's still people
wearing his jersey and then come out I have those
same people be the one's cheering them on as the
head coach. Man, it's got to be something. It's got
to be something special. And like I know how I
feel when I come back to New York and people
(29:08):
still recognize me and tell me welcome home. And I
haven't been in New York in eight years, So imagine
what he feels is exponentially greater than what we feel
as former players who played eight years and saving eight
years with the team. He's coming for him, it's coming
back home and it's coming to lead your team. You know,
it'd be a kin to him going to Texa A
and m being a head coach, or me going LSU,
(29:29):
or Jason going to Cincinnati, or any of us going
you know, Tulane, you know whatever, West Virginia. If we
step into my hometown and become the head coach there,
it's something different and it means something special to you
the person, and to everybody else and for for Jason.
I mean, for Aaron, he's got to know that all
his teammates are behind him on this one, because we
(29:51):
all feel the same vi about this organization, about want
we want him to win, we want the organization to win,
and we want Aaron Glenn to be the guy to
do it.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
It certainly means more.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Uh, guys, welcome back, welcome home, and I'm sure we'll
be seen this soon.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Always very cool. Catching up with a number of Jets legends.
They're pumped that Aaron Glenn is the head coach of
the Green and White training camp rolling on here. So
look for us soon because we're going to give you
an update on all things happening with the current team.
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