October 20, 2025 • 33 mins
Host Jeane Coakley is joined by Jets Legend Marty Lyons and New York Jets Ring of Honor member Wayne Chrebet to discuss the Green & White's Week 8 matchup with the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to week eight of jet Stream. I'm
your host, Jennay Kochio Longside, like I am every week,
my favorite guy, the Great Marty A Lions and Marty.
Despite the Jets record, we have a really fun show
this week. As always, we have questions from the fans
and I love a couple of these questions. They're awesome,
and coming up later in the show, we have another
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jet legend joining us. I mean, think about it, Marty.
We've had some pretty good guests. I mean we're pretty
much hitting all of the Ring of honor. So this week,
this guest this week so much fun. But before we
talk about the game, Marty, what celebrity did you want
into this week?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know who I ran into Method Man. He's one
of my favorites. He did the thirty for thirty on
the Sack Exchange. I've known him for a long time
and it's amazing how many fans he has out there.
And I run across people that say, hey, you know
method Man, and I will send Method Man a text?
(01:01):
Can you say hi to Katie? And he'll send a video.
He's he's really in tune and he touches the community
and he's just it's such a great gentleman, big Jet fan,
and he's always on the sideline, so it's always great
to see him.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
How cool was it that he did he was he
voiced the thirty for thirty that special on the sound.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well, you know what, I thought, he did an excellent
job and you know, pay tribute at the end of
it to Abdul and rest in peace. You know, only
he could do a voice over like that, and I
just thought he did a great job. And you know,
he's been a friend of mine for a long time,
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and it's always great to see people.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
On the sideline.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You know. The one thing that I noticed about a
team that was oh and six going into the game,
the fans haven't given up. Yeah, you know, I'm very fortunate.
I go around and I go to two suites the
first quarter, two to second two and the third and
all these people are still engaged and they just want
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to see the Jets play better. They just want to
see the Jets win a game. But there's not a
lot of people that are going, Wow, same old Jets.
They're not doing that. They're not playing that song again.
So it's encouraging, and I think the Jet players need
to know that, you know, their fans haven't given up on.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Them, and Marty for you. How as a former player,
as someone who's been part of this organization for almost
fifty years, and so many different aspects, like how hard
it is to change a culture, I mean, and to
make it a winning culture.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, it is very hard when you don't win, you know,
very hard for those guys in the locker room to
buy into a new culture and not see any result.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
How do you teach winning?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Teach winning by winning?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You go out there and you execute and you play
complimentary football. I mean, look at a guy like Quinn Williams.
You know they didn't win this past weekend against the Panthers,
but he had eight tackles. When's the last time a
defensive lineman had eight tackles? And all that stuff goes
unnoticed because at the end of the game, what matters
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is the W or the L. But I think Quinnon
had a great game. I think it's time now for
the g just to regroup. I look for Tyrod Taylor
to start this week. I think that hit that you know,
Justin Fields took, which was unnecessary roughness by Nick Scott
years ago. If that had happened to one of our quarterbacks,
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I think we'd still be out there fighting.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
You know, I don't think that they tried. Tried well,
you know, you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Want to try to fight, you can fight, But I
think it's just I just don't think Justin Fields is
healthy for some reason. I think whether it's the prior
concussion that he had or his legs, and I think,
you know, I've been a big fan of his ever
since he came out of Ohio State. I love them,
love the way that he played at the Ohio State
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and then he gets drafted by Chicago, he goes to Pittsburgh.
Now he's with the Jets. I'm really a big fan.
But I think he needs to step back and get
healthy and watch the game this week, and then you
have a bye week and then you can come back
and get ready to play against Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And sometimes it's good for someone just to step back
and just watch him. Look at Bryce Young, the Carolina quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, it's tough to step back today, especially when when
you have that pride that you're the starting quarterback. You
will even if Tyrod starts this week, Justin Fields is
still the starting quarterback. There's not going to be a
quarterback controversy unless you know, you throw Tyrod in there
and he throws for three hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
But I think that what they Jests have to do
is they got to get back to debate. You have
a runner.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I know Brice Hall got nicked up a little bit,
but he's got to have more and then thirteen carries.
You know they rush for you know this past week
and a Oni ran the ball twenty times for eighty
one yards. Breith Hall should be touching the ball twenty times.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Now. I'm going into this week against Cincinnati. They got
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
You script your first twenty plays, I'm scripting the first
five we are going to run. If they got eight
in the box, here's the audible that we are going
to go to and have these guys ready to go.
Maybe even come out in a hurry up offense, something
that the defense for Cincinnati hasn't seen, something that Jets
happened tone, But change up the rhythm a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
The other thing I'd like to see is I'd like
to see them roll the pocket a little bit, get
the quarterback out, get Tyrd out on the edge where
you can do those RPOs He can look down, he
can look at the field, he can read the entire field.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It's kind of hard when you get in that pocket
and the pocket starts to lops back on you. It's
hard for you to peek around and try to find
that throwing lane. But get them outside happy the defense
back to back game. See, you know you've only given
up thirteen points in each of the last two games,
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so the defense is starting to gel. Now you need
the offense. It's never too late. You're zero to seven,
go out and have a little bit more fun.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I was gonna say, let's think it. Let's talk about
some of the positives you saw. What do you see
from the defense. What do you like about how theway's
defense is, Like you said, Jellen and coming together.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I like the attitude that they're playing with.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You know again, quinnin Williams, I think if you get
Quincy back, I think this is Quincy's defense. The way
that he plays the game, the passion that he has,
the emotion that he shows, that's very contagious. We saw
it last week when Jermaine Johnson came back. Those two
guys play with a high level of enthusiasm, high level
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of emotion, and that in itself is contagious. But if
Sauce Gardner is not going to go this week, you
look over in Cincinnati. They're loaded with the wide receiver,
Lamar Chase, and then you got Higgins. They're loaded, and
all they're gonna do is tell Joe Fleckel, Hey, you
know what, stand back there, get rid of the ball quick.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
So you're gonna have to push that pocket back.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
You talk about those guys like the Jermaine Johnson's and
the Quincy and those guys. Who's that guy for you?
Guys on your team? Who are those guys on your team?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
When I played, when I came into the league, it
was Greg Buddle and Greg Greg was always that emotional
leader in the locker room. Then it went to Cleck
and then somehow, you don't know where, you don't know when,
but the torch got passed to me and I carried
it for as long.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
As I could.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But the game was so much different back then. Jenney,
if you were a rookie when you came in, you
didn't say anything. Now the rookies you come man, you
have a voice. Don't worry about what the veterans think
of you, you know, beside Nick Folk, who's the next
guy in line. And you can take Tyrod Taylor, he's
been in the league seventeen plus years. But then it
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drops all the way down to quinnn Williams in his
seventh year. So this is a young team and right
now for a lot of these young players that are
in the league, now you'd be hitting the wall.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You're hitting that NFL wall because you got seven plus
the three preseason games plus all the OTAs. Now you
would be at the end of your college schedule.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So they're going to be hitting the wall. I think
the bye week is coming at a perfect time. Yeah,
you'll have nine games left. You can go back self, scout, self, evaluate,
be critical of yourself, be honest with yourself, be honest
with your teammates, and then go out and play these
last nine games. But you know, for the fans to
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be calling for people, the fans just need to take
a deep breath and say, hey, you know what, we're
changing the culture. But give them a chance.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Give them patients, And I know they hate being that
patient till I've been seven ways. But let me ask.
Let's talk about the AFC East because the Patriots are
on top of the bills. Are you surprised by that?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, not at all. I think like Babel has done
a great job up there. They're playing very physical football.
That's what you got to do to win in the NFL.
You look at the Sunday Night game when you had
the Falcons playing the forty nine ers. Forty nine ers
turned the page.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Back to the eighties.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
They ran the ball. They'd kill those big guys up front. Hey,
this is what we're gonna do. We are going to
run the ball, open some holes. That's what the Jets
have to do. These guys would rather run block. The
offensive lineman, would rather run block than pass.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Flock joining us now is one of the most beloved
players in Jet's history. Marty a fan favorite, an underdog
turned legend, finish his career top three receptions, receiving yards,
and touchdowns. Marty, you know who I'm talking about, The one,
the only, the Great, Wayne Crabado. Thanks for joining us, Wayne, Great?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Hi you guys doing so far?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Good? Wayne?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
How you doing good? What I missed so far since
you've been on No.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Not much, Wayne, We're just talking about how the team
has to stay together. At Owen seven and the leaders
in the locker room. There's not a lot of veterans
you mean in older players, but a lot of these
players have been down this road before five and twelve,
last year, previous years. You as a veteran, how do
you how do you approach some of the younger.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Guys at this point? Listen, I won three and thirteen
and one to fifteen. Understand it, you know, And I
say this and anything I play, you could be pick
up basketball, pick a ball, whatever it is, or the kids.
The first one is always the hardest. Uh, and then
things kind of flow because losing its contagious and winning
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its contagious.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
And right now they don't know that feeling. Some guys have.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Some guys have it, but any vets in there at
this point have to step in front of the room. Uh,
you know, players only just explain, you know. I know
the record looks terrible, but we're not as bad as
we are, which I think, and just lock in. Let's
just go week by week, and it starts this week
with a winnable game.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And Marty, I know you kind of have a weird
connection to Wayne Well.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I covered Wayne in college when he was a wide
receiver at Hofston University and uh hit the last game
of his career. They were playing Delaware and Wayne had
six touchdown passes, tied to great Jerry Rice and his
his pair the best they were at every single game.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
They showed support.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And I went up to his dad and mom and
I said, you need to get that kid an agent.
I said, he can play in the NFL. And then
he doesn't get dropped it. He goes as a free
agent over to the Jets. And I think Wayne, you
were probably down there around sixth or seventh on the
depth chart eleven. But Jenay, you know what, You've never
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seen anybody work so hard out there. And then he
became a fan favorite because you know, the guy had
the heart, he had the passion, and he just made
plays and he did the dirty work. He asked Wayne
about going over the middle and getting hit back then
there was you know, they weren't throwing a flag.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But Wayne did the dirty work.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
He picked up the first down, and as you said,
now he's a fan favorite. He's a member of the
Ring of Honor. And what's that feel like, Wayne, to
know that you've accomplished so much and every day that
you and I both go to that stadium, you can
look up and see your.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Name well means everything, obviously, But to have a fellow
ring of honor guy, a fellow guy that you know
I watched play growing up. One of the hardest, working, nastiest,
you know, hate you, you know and keep you, you know,
the full effort guy like you were. The way you played,
(13:27):
you know, the way you uh that defense played back
then and even how you know, talking to Wesley and
Bruce Harpery yesterday, it was a little different back then.
You know, the way you could play. You can hit,
you could be hit. It's a little less of that now.
But yeah, to be hearing that from my peers, and
you know, being there look up and see some of
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the names that that was just extra. Making the team
and playing and being in New York JET my whole
career was awesome to play where I grew up. Like
I said, it, say story that kind of doesn't make sense.
You know, it's the middle of the night watching the movie.
The guy gets the girl scores it when he touchdown,
you know, got all this stuff and you're like, never happens. Well,
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you know that's my story is that you know it happened,
and it's getting.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Better and better with the Ring of Honor, and.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
I'm just so glad that I still had a chance
like Marty has. You know, twenty years after our retire
we're still involved with the organization.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And the fans still absolutely adore both of you guys.
I mean you guys. Every time I hear Waite, Marty Waite,
Marty Wayne. Was there a moment that you felt like
that happened, that you're like, wow, that you you look
up like I can see why the Jets like, I'm
a Jet, I'm a Jet fan. Do you know what
I'm saying. Was there a moment, a key moment that
you were truly embraced?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Wow, I don't know, just slowly moved down the depth chart,
and slowly more people realize that number three was a
receiver not a kicker back in ninety five. Yeah, and
then people started pronouncing my name right but listen it
just you know, right place, right time. You know, this
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guy was hurt, he was dropping passes, he was out
of shape, he didn't know the playbook, and I went
from no plays the first preseason game to one series
to the third preseason game was at Giant Stadium and
I grew up going there and we had, let you know,
thirty forty people because this was gonna be the only
time I played at Giant Stadium. I'd be released. And
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then it was co tight saying, shibet get in there,
and I was like, I was like shit, I like
that's close enough. So I just ran in there. And then, uh,
next week, coach I said, he said, listen, you know,
I'm starting preseason. I made the team and he's like,
I'm gonna start you down at Joe Robbie Open the
day and you know, Marino comes out and I'm like,
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what am I doing here? You know? And then I
was like, you know what, I'm gonna be here and
make the best of it. And eleven years later, you know,
I uh, you know, I played, and like I said,
twenty years later, we're still talking about me, and I'm
what Marty Lyons and you and uh, like I said,
he just continues to go.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
We're talking about Jenay and I were talking about, you know,
Tyrod Taylor having the possibility of starting this week.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I think that he should start.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I think he should give justin another week, you know,
to to try to recover. Then you have a bye week,
but Justin will still be your starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
But just.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Let him, let him watch the game from the sideline,
because nobody's health is is worth trying to win.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
A game, right It's it's tough too for a young
kid with Justin, even though he's been in the league
while at some point if you take him out enough,
it's just he's gonna lose confidence. But say things don't
work out, We're drafting a quarterback, right you for first
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the second pick, So it's I mean, do you try
to you know, what do you try to get out
of him? Or who's your best chance to win? Can
you do you worry about obviously Justin's help and giving
him a chance to go somewhere else and play healthy,
or do you risk you know, playing on a windless
team and him potentially getting hurt. I mean, what do
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you do at that point if the season gets out
of control. The best chance for you to win is
probably Tyrod. Knowing you're going to young quarterbacks, so yeah,
let him heal go with Tyrodd. It gives you the
best chance right now. And like I said, just try
to get that first win, then reassess how Justin fields.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
And when I have to ask you, I ran into you.
It London. In London, you're at a Jets bar. How
cool is that to be at a different country with
all these Jets, with all these Jets fans there.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I was cool.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I was there last year too, but it was a
Vikings home game and it was like ninety purple.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
So this year, but just eating, re meeting people.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Everybody had stories about us, kind of like we were
there yesterday and it's just.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
It's all I remember me stories, remembering me stories. And
then actually someone you.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Share one of those stories that you remember that you
remember hearing. It was one of the good fans stories
that they remember about you.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
You know, but they all, you know, explain how they
like football and this and that and this, and then
actually some of the stories I start remembering just how
people became fans, and you know, the stories they know,
and then you know, they ask like what's your favorite
play or this and that. Some people are like, I'm sorry,
I don't understand football, but I hear you're famous.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I'm like, no, not me.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I'm like an outpoint to like you know, Bart Scott
or Antis Beec and I tell them about a Monday
Night miracle thing, you know, the Miami game, and they're
like yeah, but then fifteen minutes they'll come back like,
all right, I just watched it on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
You were very good in that game.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
And I'm like, the crazy thing is like they they
want to know when you tell stories about this and that,
and then they go watch it and come back and
talk to you about it. And I think that's fascinating.
And the fact the world where she's playing and maybe
we might go to Ireland and the people they played
in Brazil.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
It's just expanding.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
And the fact that the fans are choosing teams now.
When I went there, you know, ten twelve years ago,
I probably signed one of every different jersey, I mean,
from Brett Farres to RG three to a jersey. Now
they're picking teams and the Jets are one of them.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Did they have anybody have your jersey?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Okay, good. I was gonna say I saw a lot
of Cebet jerseys in the stadium. Yeah, it's all Lions too,
big boy.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I always run in the fans to say, hey, what
was it like to play with Joe Nama? Right right,
that's a little bit before my time.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, but yeah, it's just uh, some connection you get
to them. And you know, when people think of heart
and soul of Jets teams, they think of you know,
the late eighties, they think of you know, they think
of me, Curtis, Vinnie, Chad, you know, Malai, you know,
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Lavernius and then when they and the other ever thinks
of you and Joe and Wesley and O'Brien and Bruce Harborer,
you know, and Freeman. But there's you know, in between,
and then after it's just it's weird, like people remember
the best times were Mayra and the best times were
You're era Marty, and that's that that means something that
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we still stick out in people's hand minds right away.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, I think it means something to have that little
fraternity of Jet players. And right now, you know, our
thoughts and prayers are with Nick Mangle and you know, hopefully,
you know, somebody out there is kind enough to donate
a kidney.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
He's just one of those good guys.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
That you know, he could turn it off and turn
it on as soon as he walked onto the football field.
He's been great in the community and you know, it's
one of those curves in life that you don't expect,
but here it is.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah, you know, I didn't know about it, and I
don't know Nick as well as you know, as far
as the guy's after me.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
But obviously Nick stands out. You know, Ring of Honor.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Guy gonna be a Hall of Famer, but just same
same thing, just a gentle giant off the field. You know,
great stories, makes people feel good, makes people thankful that
they're a fan, thanks him for everything, and the fact
that he's going through that is it's tough.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
But as a Jet.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Family, we support him jud community and hopefully they can.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Find what he needs and he comes out of this. Okay,
all right, I'm sad.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Wayne. So you retired twenty years ago?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, two thousand and five.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Wow, So thirty years ago you were calling that Delaware game.
You're old man, You're you're old man.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Thanks Wayne, Hey, Wayne, k that's unnecessary roughness.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
You know, I just got a hair, I got nothing,
I got nothing under That's why I wear a hat.
But listen, you're you're young man. You get it. You're
getting around there. I know you got your knees done
and everything else done. And you guys are hurting more
than people ever know because the game was different back then,
and you know, saw Freeman and Wesley and Bruce, and
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you know, it's just tough. It's tough to watch. Sometimes
they have some bad days. You know, Wesley is always
bright all over the places and that, and you know
he's got titaning him all over his body. And then
you see Freeman and my boy Bruce Harper. You know,
some days are a struggle, but it's so great to
see them on the field and in the green room
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and just you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Like you said earlier, Wayne, you and I are both
very fortunate, along with a few other to still be
actively involved with the Jets. So we are really invested
so that when they lose, we lose. We feel it.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
And you know what.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
We run into people in the community and they pound
us with the questions and you know, what are we
going to do? You know, this is what and they
always have a solution. Yeah, And I said yeah, and
they go, so what do you think? And I go,
if I thought like you did, I would bottle it
up and I'd sell it to all these different teams.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, I said, no, clue what I would do?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, Like, why don't they run this or do this
or just that. I'm like, you don't. You should call
them up and tell them, call them.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Up and tell them.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
I'm like, listen, like I said, Hindsight's undefeated. You can
go and say we should have done this, should have
done that. You know, and we're all in seven. We
talked the same way when we're thirteen to three. If
we would have done that, done that. It's just how
it is, you know, we in any you know the fans,
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you know, some have great ideas and you're like, wow,
that makes sense. But for the most part, I don't
think people understand how final line is between winning and losing.
It's not zero and seven doesn't mean complete overhaul, and
there's no moral victory saying oh we only lost by
one possession three or four games, it's different. You know,
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can you come out quick, but can you finish a game?
But what happened to the Giants? You have thirty three
points in the fourth. I'm not saying I rather lose
thirty three to nothing, but losing thirty three to thirty
two is a tough one.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
So everybody's going through it.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
But just our record stands out and you want to
be playing meaningful football. November and December and we're not
at that point. And I don't blame the fans for
any of it, but the guys have the guys in
that room. I don't know who it is. I don't
know who it was last year Longe Rogers, but you
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had guys you would stand up in front of the room.
Joe would stand up in the room, you know what
I mean. I don't know who that guy's been the
last couple of years. You know, so Austin Garrett's good guys,
but maybe Quinnin. I mean, we had Vinnie, Mawai, Curtis,
there was a handful of guys, you know, Brian Cox,
Moluis mar you know, Victor Green. They have to have
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those guys step up and be like, we're not going
out like this. There's no way we're going winless. We're
going to get a win before the bye and that's it.
We're not thinking any other way. It's going to happen,
and that's it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, Wayne, we appreciate you, journeying, I got I'm on
the screen with two jet legends. I'm so excited to
be here. I'm honest, real quick, before we let you go,
what does it mean to you to be a jet.
What does it mean to you to be a jet?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
You know, people asked me that it's just it's my life.
It's been my life.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I don't ever remember being not not that it's my identity.
I don't ever remember feeling like anything else. Like I
feel like I've been been a jet since birth. Like
you know, I was a jet and Giant jet and
Giant fan growing up mostly Giant, you know, at points,
because you know, that's just how it was in uh,
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in my in my household. But yeah, just the fact
to stay involved, you know, to be put in the
ring of honor and to be you know, to be
a representative saying listen, we're gonna bring three or four
players to represent us. You know, we're gonna bring We're
gonna bring you to represent our organization. You know, they
bring back and he does radio and bart do's TV,
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you know, and Eric Coleman does you know, and then
you know, Marty is still involved and Wesley's involved, and
just it's only there's a core of us and bo
and it just feels good to be a.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Part of that.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Twenty years later, like all right, you're just you still
represent what the Newark Jets organization means. That means more
than when I played the fact that I'm still people
still want to see me, get autographs and be on
shows like this, That's what that what means the most.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
It means I did my job as.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
A person and as a team twenty to thirty years ago,
that I'm still here now, that's what it means to me.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
That's well said, Well said, Wayne.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Thanks, we appreciate you joining and enjoy the rest of
your day.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Thanks you too. Margin.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
How cool is it that I literally got to talk
to Wayne Corbett who's played his whole career with the
Jets in the Ring of Honor and I get to
talk to you, a guy who played his entire career
with the Jets and is in the Ring of honor.
How lucky am I?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
You know what? That was pretty neat.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And to see Wayne and the success that he had,
the hard work that he put in, and I know
to cover his games for MSG and Cable Vision when
he played in college, and to look at him now
and a father of three boys, and he represents the
Jets out there in the community.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
One of the best. All Right, you know what time
it is, Marty is question time? Question time. All right,
this question comes from Jay Bernstein. Now, Marty, we actually
ran into him and his wife, remember at the elevator
I think it was the Cowboys game. Okay, we ran
into him and his wife. So he sent me a
question and he says, what was your opinion of Walt
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Michael's being let go after the Miami Championship and how
do you think that changed the immediate future of our team?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, number one, I think it was it was embarrassing
to let him go. They never should have let him go. Well,
he was a good coach, he was a good person,
and it changed the whole culture of the building. We
went from a guy that we wanted to play for.
He was tough to Then Joe Walton came in and
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Joe had a personality conflict with some of the players
on the team. Next thing, you know, they weren't there anymore.
And you know, and I don't blame you know, Joe Walton.
I'm not pointing the finger at him. That why we
went backwards. Just just you know, Walt was a good guy.
It never should have been fired.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
All right, Well this I'll we'll wrap up with this
one because we're run out of time. And I really
like this question. I can't wait for your answer. This
is from Marie from New York. What's the most memorable
wish you granted? Because you know Marty Lyons Foundation, you
guys grant wishes, been doing it for how many years now?
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Forty three?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Forty three years, so you've given out a lot of
wishes to a lot of incredible people. Is there one
that stands out?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I think I think the very first one.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Does you know when you do that first wish and
they can't see the background, but Steven's up there. Stephen
was seventeen and he had lymphomia and we were going
to send him.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
To the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
The Super Bowl was being held in Tampa that year
and it was the Raiders versus I think it was
Raiders versus Washington, and unfortunately Stephen passed away. But to
think now that Stephen would have been sixty years old,
sixty years old, and that always stands in the back
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of my mind because I went to the funeral and
I went to the wake and the father said, how
long are you going to how long are you going.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
To do this foundation? I said, well, hopefully I can
do it a lifetime. He says, just remember this.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Do it because you believe in it, do it because
it makes your heart feel good. Don't do it because
you want to read about it in the newspaper.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
So his father was very smart.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
If you look over my shoulders and they right there
where I had that big big.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
That big fro, that big frow, that's Stephen.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
That was our very.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
First wish back in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
So you know, it's a lot of thank yous have
to go out to all the people here in the
Tri State area and around the country really for helping
us get to where we are. We now operating fourteen states.
We've raised over forty four million dollars and we've helped
over eighty seven hundred families. But we still need to
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expand we need to get more people involved, and we
need to let people know that if you don't if
you can't donate money, donate time. But childhood cancer is
taking away a lot of destroying a lot of lives.
It's not just losing the child. How did the siblings
go on, how did the parents go on, and where
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that struggle comes in, and how we can create hope
and hope doesn't exist. That's all we try to do and.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
You do that, and you do that, the Marty Lions
Foundation definitely does that. You are remarkable. Marty.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well, thank you, but it's all love what you do.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
With your foundation.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Everybody in that foundation, it's every right, it's everybody. You've
been out there and you and I've been blessed to
be friends with you for a long time. When the
night that you were out there and you m ceed it,
you did an incredible job.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
And John Franklin Myers.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
You know, here's a guy that here's a guy that
you know what was with the Jets and he donated
five hundred dollars for every sack that he got and
then they trade him out there the Denver. But you know,
it's the involvement that the Jets have had since day one,
total support. And you see a guy like Wayne Wayne
donates his time to come back out, Joe Kleckel always there,
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Greg Buddle always there, Lance Mell always there. And Kenny
Shroy who helped me start the foundation. You can't ask
Kenny to do any more than what he does. So
Trulie blessed to be surrounded by good people.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Well, you're a great person, so you surround yourself with
people like yourself. Hey, it was fun week. I told
you we're gonna have fun. Catching up with Wayne Corbett.
Awesome catching up with you, chatting about a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
So do you feel how you feel about this week
going out?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Since I feel good, I feel good like, wait, you
just got to get one, You just got to get
over that hump. And I feel good, feel good. I
will see you next week and we're gonna Oh it's Halloween.
Dress up, Marty, dress up.
Hello, and welcome to week eight of jet Stream. I'm
your host, Jennay Kochio Longside, like I am every week,
my favorite guy, the Great Marty A Lions and Marty.
Despite the Jets record, we have a really fun show
this week. As always, we have questions from the fans
and I love a couple of these questions. They're awesome,
and coming up later in the show, we have another
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jet legend joining us. I mean, think about it, Marty.
We've had some pretty good guests. I mean we're pretty
much hitting all of the Ring of honor. So this week,
this guest this week so much fun. But before we
talk about the game, Marty, what celebrity did you want
into this week?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know who I ran into Method Man. He's one
of my favorites. He did the thirty for thirty on
the Sack Exchange. I've known him for a long time
and it's amazing how many fans he has out there.
And I run across people that say, hey, you know
method Man, and I will send Method Man a text?
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Can you say hi to Katie? And he'll send a video.
He's he's really in tune and he touches the community
and he's just it's such a great gentleman, big Jet fan,
and he's always on the sideline, so it's always great
to see him.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
How cool was it that he did he was he
voiced the thirty for thirty that special on the sound.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well, you know what, I thought, he did an excellent
job and you know, pay tribute at the end of
it to Abdul and rest in peace. You know, only
he could do a voice over like that, and I
just thought he did a great job. And you know,
he's been a friend of mine for a long time,
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and it's always great to see people.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
On the sideline.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You know. The one thing that I noticed about a
team that was oh and six going into the game,
the fans haven't given up. Yeah, you know, I'm very fortunate.
I go around and I go to two suites the
first quarter, two to second two and the third and
all these people are still engaged and they just want
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to see the Jets play better. They just want to
see the Jets win a game. But there's not a
lot of people that are going, Wow, same old Jets.
They're not doing that. They're not playing that song again.
So it's encouraging, and I think the Jet players need
to know that, you know, their fans haven't given up on.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Them, and Marty for you. How as a former player,
as someone who's been part of this organization for almost
fifty years, and so many different aspects, like how hard
it is to change a culture, I mean, and to
make it a winning culture.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, it is very hard when you don't win, you know,
very hard for those guys in the locker room to
buy into a new culture and not see any result.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
How do you teach winning?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Teach winning by winning?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You go out there and you execute and you play
complimentary football. I mean, look at a guy like Quinn Williams.
You know they didn't win this past weekend against the Panthers,
but he had eight tackles. When's the last time a
defensive lineman had eight tackles? And all that stuff goes
unnoticed because at the end of the game, what matters
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is the W or the L. But I think Quinnon
had a great game. I think it's time now for
the g just to regroup. I look for Tyrod Taylor
to start this week. I think that hit that you know,
Justin Fields took, which was unnecessary roughness by Nick Scott
years ago. If that had happened to one of our quarterbacks,
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I think we'd still be out there fighting.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
You know, I don't think that they tried. Tried well,
you know, you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Want to try to fight, you can fight, But I
think it's just I just don't think Justin Fields is
healthy for some reason. I think whether it's the prior
concussion that he had or his legs, and I think,
you know, I've been a big fan of his ever
since he came out of Ohio State. I love them,
love the way that he played at the Ohio State
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and then he gets drafted by Chicago, he goes to Pittsburgh.
Now he's with the Jets. I'm really a big fan.
But I think he needs to step back and get
healthy and watch the game this week, and then you
have a bye week and then you can come back
and get ready to play against Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And sometimes it's good for someone just to step back
and just watch him. Look at Bryce Young, the Carolina quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, it's tough to step back today, especially when when
you have that pride that you're the starting quarterback. You
will even if Tyrod starts this week, Justin Fields is
still the starting quarterback. There's not going to be a
quarterback controversy unless you know, you throw Tyrod in there
and he throws for three hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
But I think that what they Jests have to do
is they got to get back to debate. You have
a runner.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I know Brice Hall got nicked up a little bit,
but he's got to have more and then thirteen carries.
You know they rush for you know this past week
and a Oni ran the ball twenty times for eighty
one yards. Breith Hall should be touching the ball twenty times.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Now. I'm going into this week against Cincinnati. They got
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
You script your first twenty plays, I'm scripting the first
five we are going to run. If they got eight
in the box, here's the audible that we are going
to go to and have these guys ready to go.
Maybe even come out in a hurry up offense, something
that the defense for Cincinnati hasn't seen, something that Jets
happened tone, But change up the rhythm a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
The other thing I'd like to see is I'd like
to see them roll the pocket a little bit, get
the quarterback out, get Tyrd out on the edge where
you can do those RPOs He can look down, he
can look at the field, he can read the entire field.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It's kind of hard when you get in that pocket
and the pocket starts to lops back on you. It's
hard for you to peek around and try to find
that throwing lane. But get them outside happy the defense
back to back game. See, you know you've only given
up thirteen points in each of the last two games,
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so the defense is starting to gel. Now you need
the offense. It's never too late. You're zero to seven,
go out and have a little bit more fun.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I was gonna say, let's think it. Let's talk about
some of the positives you saw. What do you see
from the defense. What do you like about how theway's
defense is, Like you said, Jellen and coming together.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I like the attitude that they're playing with.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You know again, quinnin Williams, I think if you get
Quincy back, I think this is Quincy's defense. The way
that he plays the game, the passion that he has,
the emotion that he shows, that's very contagious. We saw
it last week when Jermaine Johnson came back. Those two
guys play with a high level of enthusiasm, high level
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of emotion, and that in itself is contagious. But if
Sauce Gardner is not going to go this week, you
look over in Cincinnati. They're loaded with the wide receiver,
Lamar Chase, and then you got Higgins. They're loaded, and
all they're gonna do is tell Joe Fleckel, Hey, you
know what, stand back there, get rid of the ball quick.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
So you're gonna have to push that pocket back.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
You talk about those guys like the Jermaine Johnson's and
the Quincy and those guys. Who's that guy for you?
Guys on your team? Who are those guys on your team?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
When I played, when I came into the league, it
was Greg Buddle and Greg Greg was always that emotional
leader in the locker room. Then it went to Cleck
and then somehow, you don't know where, you don't know when,
but the torch got passed to me and I carried
it for as long.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
As I could.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But the game was so much different back then. Jenney,
if you were a rookie when you came in, you
didn't say anything. Now the rookies you come man, you
have a voice. Don't worry about what the veterans think
of you, you know, beside Nick Folk, who's the next
guy in line. And you can take Tyrod Taylor, he's
been in the league seventeen plus years. But then it
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drops all the way down to quinnn Williams in his
seventh year. So this is a young team and right
now for a lot of these young players that are
in the league, now you'd be hitting the wall.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You're hitting that NFL wall because you got seven plus
the three preseason games plus all the OTAs. Now you
would be at the end of your college schedule.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So they're going to be hitting the wall. I think
the bye week is coming at a perfect time. Yeah,
you'll have nine games left. You can go back self, scout, self, evaluate,
be critical of yourself, be honest with yourself, be honest
with your teammates, and then go out and play these
last nine games. But you know, for the fans to
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be calling for people, the fans just need to take
a deep breath and say, hey, you know what, we're
changing the culture. But give them a chance.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Give them patients, And I know they hate being that
patient till I've been seven ways. But let me ask.
Let's talk about the AFC East because the Patriots are
on top of the bills. Are you surprised by that?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, not at all. I think like Babel has done
a great job up there. They're playing very physical football.
That's what you got to do to win in the NFL.
You look at the Sunday Night game when you had
the Falcons playing the forty nine ers. Forty nine ers
turned the page.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Back to the eighties.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
They ran the ball. They'd kill those big guys up front. Hey,
this is what we're gonna do. We are going to
run the ball, open some holes. That's what the Jets
have to do. These guys would rather run block. The
offensive lineman, would rather run block than pass.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Flock joining us now is one of the most beloved
players in Jet's history. Marty a fan favorite, an underdog
turned legend, finish his career top three receptions, receiving yards,
and touchdowns. Marty, you know who I'm talking about, The one,
the only, the Great, Wayne Crabado. Thanks for joining us, Wayne, Great?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Hi you guys doing so far?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Good? Wayne?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
How you doing good? What I missed so far since
you've been on No.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Not much, Wayne, We're just talking about how the team
has to stay together. At Owen seven and the leaders
in the locker room. There's not a lot of veterans
you mean in older players, but a lot of these
players have been down this road before five and twelve,
last year, previous years. You as a veteran, how do
you how do you approach some of the younger.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Guys at this point? Listen, I won three and thirteen
and one to fifteen. Understand it, you know, And I
say this and anything I play, you could be pick
up basketball, pick a ball, whatever it is, or the kids.
The first one is always the hardest. Uh, and then
things kind of flow because losing its contagious and winning
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its contagious.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
And right now they don't know that feeling. Some guys have.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Some guys have it, but any vets in there at
this point have to step in front of the room. Uh,
you know, players only just explain, you know. I know
the record looks terrible, but we're not as bad as
we are, which I think, and just lock in. Let's
just go week by week, and it starts this week
with a winnable game.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And Marty, I know you kind of have a weird
connection to Wayne Well.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I covered Wayne in college when he was a wide
receiver at Hofston University and uh hit the last game
of his career. They were playing Delaware and Wayne had
six touchdown passes, tied to great Jerry Rice and his
his pair the best they were at every single game.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
They showed support.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And I went up to his dad and mom and
I said, you need to get that kid an agent.
I said, he can play in the NFL. And then
he doesn't get dropped it. He goes as a free
agent over to the Jets. And I think Wayne, you
were probably down there around sixth or seventh on the
depth chart eleven. But Jenay, you know what, You've never
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seen anybody work so hard out there. And then he
became a fan favorite because you know, the guy had
the heart, he had the passion, and he just made
plays and he did the dirty work. He asked Wayne
about going over the middle and getting hit back then
there was you know, they weren't throwing a flag.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But Wayne did the dirty work.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
He picked up the first down, and as you said,
now he's a fan favorite. He's a member of the
Ring of Honor. And what's that feel like, Wayne, to
know that you've accomplished so much and every day that
you and I both go to that stadium, you can
look up and see your.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Name well means everything, obviously, But to have a fellow
ring of honor guy, a fellow guy that you know
I watched play growing up. One of the hardest, working, nastiest,
you know, hate you, you know and keep you, you know,
the full effort guy like you were. The way you played,
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you know, the way you uh that defense played back
then and even how you know, talking to Wesley and
Bruce Harpery yesterday, it was a little different back then.
You know, the way you could play. You can hit,
you could be hit. It's a little less of that now.
But yeah, to be hearing that from my peers, and
you know, being there look up and see some of
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the names that that was just extra. Making the team
and playing and being in New York JET my whole
career was awesome to play where I grew up. Like
I said, it, say story that kind of doesn't make sense.
You know, it's the middle of the night watching the movie.
The guy gets the girl scores it when he touchdown,
you know, got all this stuff and you're like, never happens. Well,
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you know that's my story is that you know it happened,
and it's getting.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Better and better with the Ring of Honor, and.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
I'm just so glad that I still had a chance
like Marty has. You know, twenty years after our retire
we're still involved with the organization.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And the fans still absolutely adore both of you guys.
I mean you guys. Every time I hear Waite, Marty Waite,
Marty Wayne. Was there a moment that you felt like
that happened, that you're like, wow, that you you look
up like I can see why the Jets like, I'm
a Jet, I'm a Jet fan. Do you know what
I'm saying. Was there a moment, a key moment that
you were truly embraced?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Wow, I don't know, just slowly moved down the depth chart,
and slowly more people realize that number three was a
receiver not a kicker back in ninety five. Yeah, and
then people started pronouncing my name right but listen it
just you know, right place, right time. You know, this
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guy was hurt, he was dropping passes, he was out
of shape, he didn't know the playbook, and I went
from no plays the first preseason game to one series
to the third preseason game was at Giant Stadium and
I grew up going there and we had, let you know,
thirty forty people because this was gonna be the only
time I played at Giant Stadium. I'd be released. And
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then it was co tight saying, shibet get in there,
and I was like, I was like shit, I like
that's close enough. So I just ran in there. And then, uh,
next week, coach I said, he said, listen, you know,
I'm starting preseason. I made the team and he's like,
I'm gonna start you down at Joe Robbie Open the
day and you know, Marino comes out and I'm like,
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what am I doing here? You know? And then I
was like, you know what, I'm gonna be here and
make the best of it. And eleven years later, you know,
I uh, you know, I played, and like I said,
twenty years later, we're still talking about me, and I'm
what Marty Lyons and you and uh, like I said,
he just continues to go.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
We're talking about Jenay and I were talking about, you know,
Tyrod Taylor having the possibility of starting this week.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I think that he should start.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I think he should give justin another week, you know,
to to try to recover. Then you have a bye week,
but Justin will still be your starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
But just.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Let him, let him watch the game from the sideline,
because nobody's health is is worth trying to win.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
A game, right It's it's tough too for a young
kid with Justin, even though he's been in the league
while at some point if you take him out enough,
it's just he's gonna lose confidence. But say things don't
work out, We're drafting a quarterback, right you for first
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the second pick, So it's I mean, do you try
to you know, what do you try to get out
of him? Or who's your best chance to win? Can
you do you worry about obviously Justin's help and giving
him a chance to go somewhere else and play healthy,
or do you risk you know, playing on a windless
team and him potentially getting hurt. I mean, what do
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you do at that point if the season gets out
of control. The best chance for you to win is
probably Tyrod. Knowing you're going to young quarterbacks, so yeah,
let him heal go with Tyrodd. It gives you the
best chance right now. And like I said, just try
to get that first win, then reassess how Justin fields.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
And when I have to ask you, I ran into you.
It London. In London, you're at a Jets bar. How
cool is that to be at a different country with
all these Jets, with all these Jets fans there.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I was cool.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I was there last year too, but it was a
Vikings home game and it was like ninety purple.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
So this year, but just eating, re meeting people.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Everybody had stories about us, kind of like we were
there yesterday and it's just.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
It's all I remember me stories, remembering me stories. And
then actually someone you.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Share one of those stories that you remember that you
remember hearing. It was one of the good fans stories
that they remember about you.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
You know, but they all, you know, explain how they
like football and this and that and this, and then
actually some of the stories I start remembering just how
people became fans, and you know, the stories they know,
and then you know, they ask like what's your favorite
play or this and that. Some people are like, I'm sorry,
I don't understand football, but I hear you're famous.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I'm like, no, not me.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I'm like an outpoint to like you know, Bart Scott
or Antis Beec and I tell them about a Monday
Night miracle thing, you know, the Miami game, and they're
like yeah, but then fifteen minutes they'll come back like,
all right, I just watched it on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
You were very good in that game.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
And I'm like, the crazy thing is like they they
want to know when you tell stories about this and that,
and then they go watch it and come back and
talk to you about it. And I think that's fascinating.
And the fact the world where she's playing and maybe
we might go to Ireland and the people they played
in Brazil.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
It's just expanding.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
And the fact that the fans are choosing teams now.
When I went there, you know, ten twelve years ago,
I probably signed one of every different jersey, I mean,
from Brett Farres to RG three to a jersey. Now
they're picking teams and the Jets are one of them.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Did they have anybody have your jersey?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Okay, good. I was gonna say I saw a lot
of Cebet jerseys in the stadium. Yeah, it's all Lions too,
big boy.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I always run in the fans to say, hey, what
was it like to play with Joe Nama? Right right,
that's a little bit before my time.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, but yeah, it's just uh, some connection you get
to them. And you know, when people think of heart
and soul of Jets teams, they think of you know,
the late eighties, they think of you know, they think
of me, Curtis, Vinnie, Chad, you know, Malai, you know,
(20:17):
Lavernius and then when they and the other ever thinks
of you and Joe and Wesley and O'Brien and Bruce Harborer,
you know, and Freeman. But there's you know, in between,
and then after it's just it's weird, like people remember
the best times were Mayra and the best times were
You're era Marty, and that's that that means something that
(20:41):
we still stick out in people's hand minds right away.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, I think it means something to have that little
fraternity of Jet players. And right now, you know, our
thoughts and prayers are with Nick Mangle and you know, hopefully,
you know, somebody out there is kind enough to donate
a kidney.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
He's just one of those good guys.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
That you know, he could turn it off and turn
it on as soon as he walked onto the football field.
He's been great in the community and you know, it's
one of those curves in life that you don't expect,
but here it is.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yeah, you know, I didn't know about it, and I
don't know Nick as well as you know, as far
as the guy's after me.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
But obviously Nick stands out. You know, Ring of Honor.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Guy gonna be a Hall of Famer, but just same
same thing, just a gentle giant off the field. You know,
great stories, makes people feel good, makes people thankful that
they're a fan, thanks him for everything, and the fact
that he's going through that is it's tough.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
But as a Jet.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Family, we support him jud community and hopefully they can.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Find what he needs and he comes out of this. Okay,
all right, I'm sad.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Wayne. So you retired twenty years ago?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, two thousand and five.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Wow, So thirty years ago you were calling that Delaware game.
You're old man, You're you're old man.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Thanks Wayne, Hey, Wayne, k that's unnecessary roughness.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
You know, I just got a hair, I got nothing,
I got nothing under That's why I wear a hat.
But listen, you're you're young man. You get it. You're
getting around there. I know you got your knees done
and everything else done. And you guys are hurting more
than people ever know because the game was different back then,
and you know, saw Freeman and Wesley and Bruce, and
(22:37):
you know, it's just tough. It's tough to watch. Sometimes
they have some bad days. You know, Wesley is always
bright all over the places and that, and you know
he's got titaning him all over his body. And then
you see Freeman and my boy Bruce Harper. You know,
some days are a struggle, but it's so great to
see them on the field and in the green room
(22:58):
and just you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Like you said earlier, Wayne, you and I are both
very fortunate, along with a few other to still be
actively involved with the Jets. So we are really invested
so that when they lose, we lose. We feel it.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
And you know what.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
We run into people in the community and they pound
us with the questions and you know, what are we
going to do? You know, this is what and they
always have a solution. Yeah, And I said yeah, and
they go, so what do you think? And I go,
if I thought like you did, I would bottle it
up and I'd sell it to all these different teams.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, I said, no, clue what I would do?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, Like, why don't they run this or do this
or just that. I'm like, you don't. You should call
them up and tell them, call them.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Up and tell them.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
I'm like, listen, like I said, Hindsight's undefeated. You can
go and say we should have done this, should have
done that. You know, and we're all in seven. We
talked the same way when we're thirteen to three. If
we would have done that, done that. It's just how
it is, you know, we in any you know the fans,
(24:07):
you know, some have great ideas and you're like, wow,
that makes sense. But for the most part, I don't
think people understand how final line is between winning and losing.
It's not zero and seven doesn't mean complete overhaul, and
there's no moral victory saying oh we only lost by
one possession three or four games, it's different. You know,
(24:28):
can you come out quick, but can you finish a game?
But what happened to the Giants? You have thirty three
points in the fourth. I'm not saying I rather lose
thirty three to nothing, but losing thirty three to thirty
two is a tough one.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
So everybody's going through it.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
But just our record stands out and you want to
be playing meaningful football. November and December and we're not
at that point. And I don't blame the fans for
any of it, but the guys have the guys in
that room. I don't know who it is. I don't
know who it was last year Longe Rogers, but you
(25:07):
had guys you would stand up in front of the room.
Joe would stand up in the room, you know what
I mean. I don't know who that guy's been the
last couple of years. You know, so Austin Garrett's good guys,
but maybe Quinnin. I mean, we had Vinnie, Mawai, Curtis,
there was a handful of guys, you know, Brian Cox,
Moluis mar you know, Victor Green. They have to have
(25:28):
those guys step up and be like, we're not going
out like this. There's no way we're going winless. We're
going to get a win before the bye and that's it.
We're not thinking any other way. It's going to happen,
and that's it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, Wayne, we appreciate you, journeying, I got I'm on
the screen with two jet legends. I'm so excited to
be here. I'm honest, real quick, before we let you go,
what does it mean to you to be a jet.
What does it mean to you to be a jet?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
You know, people asked me that it's just it's my life.
It's been my life.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I don't ever remember being not not that it's my identity.
I don't ever remember feeling like anything else. Like I
feel like I've been been a jet since birth. Like
you know, I was a jet and Giant jet and
Giant fan growing up mostly Giant, you know, at points,
because you know, that's just how it was in uh,
(26:21):
in my in my household. But yeah, just the fact
to stay involved, you know, to be put in the
ring of honor and to be you know, to be
a representative saying listen, we're gonna bring three or four
players to represent us. You know, we're gonna bring We're
gonna bring you to represent our organization. You know, they
bring back and he does radio and bart do's TV,
(26:43):
you know, and Eric Coleman does you know, and then
you know, Marty is still involved and Wesley's involved, and
just it's only there's a core of us and bo
and it just feels good to be a.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Part of that.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Twenty years later, like all right, you're just you still
represent what the Newark Jets organization means. That means more
than when I played the fact that I'm still people
still want to see me, get autographs and be on
shows like this, That's what that what means the most.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
It means I did my job as.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
A person and as a team twenty to thirty years ago,
that I'm still here now, that's what it means to me.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
That's well said, Well said, Wayne.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Thanks, we appreciate you joining and enjoy the rest of
your day.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Thanks you too. Margin.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
How cool is it that I literally got to talk
to Wayne Corbett who's played his whole career with the
Jets in the Ring of Honor and I get to
talk to you, a guy who played his entire career
with the Jets and is in the Ring of honor.
How lucky am I?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
You know what? That was pretty neat.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And to see Wayne and the success that he had,
the hard work that he put in, and I know
to cover his games for MSG and Cable Vision when
he played in college, and to look at him now
and a father of three boys, and he represents the
Jets out there in the community.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
One of the best. All Right, you know what time
it is, Marty is question time? Question time. All right,
this question comes from Jay Bernstein. Now, Marty, we actually
ran into him and his wife, remember at the elevator
I think it was the Cowboys game. Okay, we ran
into him and his wife. So he sent me a
question and he says, what was your opinion of Walt
(28:27):
Michael's being let go after the Miami Championship and how
do you think that changed the immediate future of our team?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, number one, I think it was it was embarrassing
to let him go. They never should have let him go. Well,
he was a good coach, he was a good person,
and it changed the whole culture of the building. We
went from a guy that we wanted to play for.
He was tough to Then Joe Walton came in and
(28:57):
Joe had a personality conflict with some of the players
on the team. Next thing, you know, they weren't there anymore.
And you know, and I don't blame you know, Joe Walton.
I'm not pointing the finger at him. That why we
went backwards. Just just you know, Walt was a good guy.
It never should have been fired.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
All right, Well this I'll we'll wrap up with this
one because we're run out of time. And I really
like this question. I can't wait for your answer. This
is from Marie from New York. What's the most memorable
wish you granted? Because you know Marty Lyons Foundation, you
guys grant wishes, been doing it for how many years now?
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Forty three?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Forty three years, so you've given out a lot of
wishes to a lot of incredible people. Is there one
that stands out?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I think I think the very first one.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Does you know when you do that first wish and
they can't see the background, but Steven's up there. Stephen
was seventeen and he had lymphomia and we were going
to send him.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
To the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
The Super Bowl was being held in Tampa that year
and it was the Raiders versus I think it was
Raiders versus Washington, and unfortunately Stephen passed away. But to
think now that Stephen would have been sixty years old,
sixty years old, and that always stands in the back
(30:20):
of my mind because I went to the funeral and
I went to the wake and the father said, how
long are you going to how long are you going.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
To do this foundation? I said, well, hopefully I can
do it a lifetime. He says, just remember this.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Do it because you believe in it, do it because
it makes your heart feel good. Don't do it because
you want to read about it in the newspaper.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
So his father was very smart.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
If you look over my shoulders and they right there
where I had that big big.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
That big fro, that big frow, that's Stephen.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
That was our very.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
First wish back in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
So you know, it's a lot of thank yous have
to go out to all the people here in the
Tri State area and around the country really for helping
us get to where we are. We now operating fourteen states.
We've raised over forty four million dollars and we've helped
over eighty seven hundred families. But we still need to
(31:15):
expand we need to get more people involved, and we
need to let people know that if you don't if
you can't donate money, donate time. But childhood cancer is
taking away a lot of destroying a lot of lives.
It's not just losing the child. How did the siblings
go on, how did the parents go on, and where
(31:37):
that struggle comes in, and how we can create hope
and hope doesn't exist. That's all we try to do and.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
You do that, and you do that, the Marty Lions
Foundation definitely does that. You are remarkable. Marty.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well, thank you, but it's all love what you do.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
With your foundation.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Everybody in that foundation, it's every right, it's everybody. You've
been out there and you and I've been blessed to
be friends with you for a long time. When the
night that you were out there and you m ceed it,
you did an incredible job.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
And John Franklin Myers.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
You know, here's a guy that here's a guy that
you know what was with the Jets and he donated
five hundred dollars for every sack that he got and
then they trade him out there the Denver. But you know,
it's the involvement that the Jets have had since day one,
total support. And you see a guy like Wayne Wayne
donates his time to come back out, Joe Kleckel always there,
(32:32):
Greg Buddle always there, Lance Mell always there. And Kenny
Shroy who helped me start the foundation. You can't ask
Kenny to do any more than what he does. So
Trulie blessed to be surrounded by good people.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Well, you're a great person, so you surround yourself with
people like yourself. Hey, it was fun week. I told
you we're gonna have fun. Catching up with Wayne Corbett.
Awesome catching up with you, chatting about a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
So do you feel how you feel about this week
going out?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Since I feel good, I feel good like, wait, you
just got to get one, You just got to get
over that hump. And I feel good, feel good. I
will see you next week and we're gonna Oh it's Halloween.
Dress up, Marty, dress up.
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