December 3, 2025 • 23 mins
Host Jeane Coakley is joined by Jets Legend Marty Lyons and Green & White legend Laveranues Coles to discuss the Green & White's Week 14 matchup with the Miami Dolphins.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to Week thirteen of jet Stream.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm today Cochley alongside my co host each and every week,
the One the Only Marty Lyons Marty, we have a
great show today because we have a great guest. You know,
let's just bring him on immediately, Jets fan, our guest
is one of the most electric receivers in franchise history.
He's here on the podcast with us. The man who
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brought speed, swagger and countless big time plays. You know
what I'm talking about, The one the Only Lavernius calls ELC.
Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Thank alf for having me.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well, you know what, the one thing that you didn't
throw winto that introduction is, you know, through all the
adversity that Elsie faced in his life, look at the
man that he is today. We're all proud of you, LC,
and you should be proud of yourself. Man, you did
a fantastic job, you know, coming with the Jets, you
made your moves around the NFL, but you came back
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retired as a Jet and we're proud of you and
thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I was like a straight catch y'all feled me one
time and I just kept coming back so It's one
of the things. Jets loved me. I love them, and
it's just it was a match made in heaven.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
First of all, I'll say I'm gonna start with call
you officer, Lavernias Clos.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You're not a police officer. How cool is that talk
about that?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, it's just it's different. You know.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
I got into this job hoping to, you know, try
to impact the community and the kids and the youth
in my community make a difference because police officers may
have been such such an instrumental in my lives with
the Police Athletic League program and stuff like that. When
I come up, I play sports in it. And then
to have the opportunity to join an organization was it
was a dream come true. But I didn't know that
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I had to go through so much training in order
to be able to get to the point where I'm
at now, and still have to train another three months
to be able to get to what I was really
trying to do.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
But I've learned so much. I have a new.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Perspective on what law enforcement officers do, how to affect
the community because a lot of times when they call police,
people are not having great days. I can tell you
that much and then their death we have to come
in and show up and try to calm things down
and give them a little bit of relief of what's
going on in their lives at that time.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Well, see what did you take from the game of
football that made you be able to transfer everything you
learned on the football field to now law enforcement.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
I would have to say just teamwork first of all,
because again you're always working with a group of guys
and ladies now that are that.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
We always have each other back no matter what.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
If I show up to a scene or a situation,
I'm going to make sure my fellow officer is okay
and then figure things out from there. So having each
other's back and then also figuring out what's going on.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And then being able to relate to people no.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Matter what's happening, that's what it's pretty much about, because
again it's about having that relationship with people and developing
those bonds.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And then having the community trust you.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Because in football, we had to trust each other that
the person next to he was going to do his
job and he was going to do your job.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So it's all pretty much the same.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And Lavernia, let's talk about being a Jet. What was
it like being a New York Jet playing here in
the city at.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Such a young age.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I didn't understand the magnitude of what it meant to
play in New York because that was.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The only thing I knew.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I left from Tallahasse and went straight into New York,
so I didn't know about smaller markets or anything like that.
So coming to New York, that was all I knew,
and I didn't notice that if you could have just
a tad bit of success in such a large media market,
that you can get to love. But I'm getting now.
Of course my name ain't in the raptors like mster
lyons here, but the people because I played hard and
I showed a lot of grip, they resonated with me
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and they loved me to this day and every time
I go back, I get so much love from the
New York Jets fans.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
How world party for you? Jump you jump in?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
How cool is that you were at the game, Dylana
Falcons game you got to do the Jets share?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
What was that like for you to start the game?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I mean excited. It's the first time I've ever done it.
You know, I'm not a big broad ride guy. But
I wanted to try it out. They gave me an
opportunity to do it. Of course, they was honor our
first respondence. So it just just one of those things
is just be great to be a part of the
organization and the fact they still consider me. I'm just
thankful that I have the opportunity.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
We see.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Let's talk about today's yet. So you see what Aaron
Glenn is doing. He's building something here and you get
that feeling. But with five games to go, these guys
are going to be fighting for a roster spot, not
this year, but for next year's team. What do you
think about the job that they're doing and how they're
building that philosophy withinside that locker room.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Well, you could tell that whatever whatever we're saying out
here on the outside doesn't matter to those guys in
that locker room because the way they're playing, they're playing
for each other. The grit and the toughness that they
have and the heart that they're showing at this time
of year when nobody's giving them a chance says not
only a lot about the players, but also their head coach.
Getting them up to play week in and week out,
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and they're not walking out there just laying down and
allowing other team to run them over.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
They're playing hard whether they win or lose.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
So I mean it's a lot of respect to Aaron
and what he's done in that building, and you can
tell that he's trying to build something not only for now,
but tomorrow and more years are coming. I'm just thankful
I had an opportunity to play with him also on
his teammate and see where he's coming from.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's what I was going to ask you. What was
it like being a teammate of Aaron.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
What I can't tell you about it is, like I've
said before, I mean just seeing him how he's interacting
with the media, because I haven't had an opportunity to
be up that much.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But the person that I saw on TV wasn't the
same person that I knew.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
The the standoff is the hard outer shell the and
I knew it was a playful, always happy, energetic guy,
fun to be around. You would go to war with
him any day of the week, and then you would
run through a brick wall.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
For him because that's the type of teammate he is.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
So I think he's showing something on the outside to
us that he's showing him something different about him. Because
I was thinking the guy that he was showing us,
I was like, I don't think I would play for
him real well, but the way that plan, he's showing
them what I played with, So I think he's got
to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You know, the one thing Janet that I respect with
OC is you know what, there was good seasons and
then there was bad seasons.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
But after the.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Game, part of my responsibility of doing the Jets Radio
was to go in the locker room and try to
interview get that emotional reaction after a game, especially if
they lost. And ELC and you talk about Nick Mangole
and the Brick Shaw Ferguson, they were the three that
we could always rely on that they were going to
stand up right in front of their lockers and answer questions.
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And I think, Elsie, that shows the type of person
you are and the type of man you are. And
you know what, they the players of today need to
understand that there's a responsibility that when they Jet organization
sends somebody in there to answer those tough questions.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Well, again, I think a lot of things have changed.
I think, but when I came into the League, it
was an older locker room. You had guys like Vinnie Testaverdi,
Marvin Jones, Moe Lewis.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Who with Brian Cox, Dwight Stone.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
So we had an older roster and they took us
under the wings their wings and taught us how to
be a professional, and they told us what to do.
And from what I understand these days, you got to
remember a lot of these locker rooms are really young,
so they don't have people coming in that's taking guys
into that wings.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I think some of the heck guys that are or
the leaders of the locker room are probably four or
five of your guys, and that's who guys are having
to learn from. They don't know enough about being a
professional and how to deal with the media enough to
talk to these guys and teach them how to be professionals.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So I think if we can get back being a
hierarchy in the locker room and.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
The older guys teaching these younger guys how to deal
with the media and also be a professional, it'll change
things for you guys.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Well, one guy that's doing that is Tyrod Taylor. He
had an excellent game this past weekend against the Falcons.
And you know, look at the longevity, what sixteen seventeen
years he's been playing in the league.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yes, sir, well, I think again. But he had the
opportunity to get on the field work with those guys
in play. It's hard for you to take leadership from
a guy that's not playing. I'm just being honest about it.
So when you have a guy that's just kind of
a back up, and he a backup quarterback, you'll hear
him out, but you kind of like you ain't even
out there with us.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But it ain't.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
We ain't trying to hear but the fact that he
started and he played the game and he produced results.
Now guys have started listening and understanding that this guy
knows what he's talking talking about. He's been here before,
and he's leading us really well.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
All right, Elsie, the Jet to play in Miami obviously
not Monday night miracle game.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
But you were in that game. What do you remember
about that game?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I just remember getting my first professional touchdown. It's one
of the highlights of my life. And to be a
part of such a game where half the stadium had left,
and then once we started making a comeback, everybody started
running back in and with the stadium half full. It's
probably the lottest has ever been in any game I've
ever played at in the Meadowlands. So that's that's the
most memorable thing. It's probably the most best memories I
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have in my football career.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Do you sell the ball? Where's the ball now?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Oh? Theyre in the garage somewhere.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Find that ball, Elsie.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
It's around him some well, but again a lot of
times these days, a lot of these kids they don't
even know who I am.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I was at the game this past week, and that
parents is like, well, you know who that is? And
the kids I have no clue.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
And I'm like telling that he probably wasn't born when
I when I got into the league.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So I can imagine how it is. You missed the line.
I know it's rough.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
You know, we'll see you can drop the mystery man.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Because I was up there in the we were up
there in the mezazine together and uh, I saw the
love and the affection that and you're very humbled in
your remarks, but I saw the love and affection and
that the Jet fans had for you, and you know,
they came over to me and I was the same way.
You know, uh, to be able to go back and
be remembered, it's something special, something you kind of hold
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on to, and it kind of makes you feel good
about where you were back then and where you are now.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yes, it does.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
I mean it touches my heart just to see fans
actually remember me and recognize me because again we played.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Of course they know who you guys are. I went
to Legends right here. You guys are too humble. I'll say,
come on, two Jet Legends.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
But but again, I mean some of the years and
you try to tell the young guys like one thing
is going to happen. They're going to kick off on
Sundays with it without you. So as time passes, you
realize that, you know, the drafting guys. Every year they're
going to have a draft, and so people are going
to come in. There's a lot of great players. So
again you can becoming you can be forgotten in an instant.
I mean, so that's one of those things. You just
be thankful that somebody does recognize you. And I'm thankful
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again that New York has just showed me so much
love and that organization has been great to me and
my family.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
You know what else you just mentioned it, man, talk
a little bit about your family. I know you're living
down there in Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yes, sir, so I have four kids. Of course, I
have two boys and two girls. My oldest son is
working over in time out of bank. My youngest son
is in Harvard law school right now. And then I
have my daughter, she's going back. She just graduated from Bathoune.
Then I have an eight year old, so tell me,
I started all the way over. So one of those
things where you know, the kids have kept me going,
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kept me youthful when I started on this law enforcement journey,
and they found that I was actually doing it because
I didn't tell him I was gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
When I started, they thought I was having midlife crisis.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
So of course they came home to check in home
see see how I was doing, because everybody thought I
was having a mental break down or something of that nature.
But I'm really not. I think this fits my personality.
It gives me a sense of purpose again, being back
in the police department, and I feel good about being
able to just do something and leave a legacy behind,
not only just being recognized as a football player, but
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a person that did a lot in the community and
did his best to get back as much as he
could while.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
He was here on his planet Earth.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Yeah, it is so.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I think you hit the nail on the head when
you said the sense of purpose. I think everybody in life,
once you find that sense of purpose, you always give
one hundred percent. People go, well, give me one hundred
and ten percent. Well, you can't, because the most of
you can give is one hundred percent, and very few
of us will ever get even close to one hundred
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percent unless we have that person, that passion and the
purpose for why we're doing it.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Yes, sir, and I think I found it again. It
was rough in the beginning. I don't tell anybody no lives.
Of course, when I first started this, they tased me
on the first day. They cap, Oh my gosh, seriously,
Yeah it happened. I like being honest with people because
people like, oh, I think I want to do I said, well,
let me tell you about what happens before you get
to that point, because a lot of people don't understand
what you have to go through the academy.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You're going to get tased, You're going to get.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Pepper sprayed, I got pepper ball and I got gassed,
and that's that's just part of what you have to
go through to get through it. And if you renewing
on any of those, you're not going to have this job.
And that doesn't go with all the running of the
miles and the pull ups and the pushups and everything else,
and the studying that you have to do on a
daily basis to understand not only the law, but then
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understand when you can and you when you can't use force,
when you can't use force.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
All of those things are very important with this job.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
So again, just learning and understanding and then seeing what
police have to deal with on a regular basis has
changed the outlook on their jobs in my life period.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I think as soon as I got tased, that's one thing.
When they pepper sprayed me, I'm out the door.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You know, I enjoying any of that stuff.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
So you know, shit and giggles man, that don't cut it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, just cheering it. No nothings.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It's rough, And I mean I wouldn't tell anybody anything different.
Just like when people tell you getting tattoos don't hurt,
I say that's a lie. They hurt real bad. So
you know, oh it didn't hurt yet it hurts. So
everything I'm telling you, just be prepared mentally. You can't
get off the couch and just walk in here and
think you're going to get this job, because you know
it's a lot of running obstacle courses and then it's
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a mental game as well as a physical game. So,
like I said, it was right at home with being
playing in the NFL. It was actually tough of coming
from the NFL because they were rough on me because
they felt because I had an NFL background that I
would be better at the physical stuff, but they didn't
recognize that I have. I'm forty seven years old with
two metal hips, so but I was able to get
through it. I'm excited about where I'm at now, and
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I think anybody can do it if you set your
mind to it. But have your heart in your mindset
to go through something you probably haven't been through before,
and you'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
All right, got one more question for and them, we'll
let you go. What was it?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I know you said maybe your first touchdown in the
Miami Miracle is maybe one of your best memories. What
other memory do you remember about playing as a.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Jet oh my years with HERM Edwards man, I mean,
it was so exciting just being a part of that
that that group. I know we didn't get very far,
but hearn was an amazing coach to play for. And
he treated us like men, which is what I appreciated
about playing for HERM and new was and the way
he talked to us as guys. And one of the
things that stuck with me that he always said does
he said, he said, the guys, I'm gonna treat everybody fail,
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but I'm not gonna treat you the same.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You're not gonna get the same.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Privileges I give Curtis Martin because you're not Curtis Martin.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
But I will be fair. And that's one of the
things that's always stuck with me.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
So you always he's always treated everybody fair, but he
got treat everybody the same. So I think that's one
of the things I took from that and it's still
stick with me to this day. So I don't take
anything personally if I don't get the same thing that
the guy next to me gets. So if I get
a little bit more than him, or get a little less,
because I know I'm not him and maybe I haven't
put enough work in to get what he's done.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Yeah, and you know what, I have to read rate
that and stamped that too.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Man.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Herm.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Edwards was great to work for. When we did the
Jet Journal show. He would basically tell us the whole
game plan and then you knew what you could use
on the show or you knew what you could use
on the radio, and you knew what not to you.
You didn't cross that boundary of trust. And he was
just such a good man, a man of faith too,
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that brought it all to the table. So yeah, he
was somebody special.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Shout out her, thank you for everything you did for us,
man and my family, because he gave me the opportunity
to play. So without her, I probably might not have
sought a feel person.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
To work with.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I mean amazing him and his wife was amazing not
only to the guys on the team, but just just period.
I mean, Hern was a hard worker and his personality
says enough. I mean just the way people loving and
did him today when you see him on ESPN, that's
just the way Hern was and still is.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, and today her and his wife used to fly
in the back of the plane with where we were sitting.
He wasn't upfront with the players, right, Oh.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I think I was like, he's my kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
For the players. That's how her was.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well, actually you know what we got. We do fan questions, Elsie.
Do you want to stick around for a couple of
fan questions and you can both answer them?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Does that work?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (16:22):
It works all right.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Time for question time.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I like to do a drum roll, Marty kind of
does it all right? This is Joe from Jersey. I'll
let you go first, Marty, and then you think why,
then we'll go back forth. Joe from Jersey wants to
know who was your funniest teammate, Marty.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
My funniest teammate, But I don't know. We had quite
a few of them. I would say the funniest, that's
a tough question. It might have been Bob Crable, Okay,
Bob Crable, Lance Mell. They had that dry humor to him,
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you know, not really our spoken, but when they did speak,
you know, you listen. When it was a joke, you'd
look at him like, okay, where's the punchline?
Speaker 6 (17:08):
H But one was from Notre Dame. One was from
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
What did you expect, solid point, Elsie?
Speaker 6 (17:15):
What about you?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I would have to say probably Mo Lewis. And he
had that dry humor also. I mean I just remember him.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Coming down the hallway early in the morning in my
career yelling hot coffee. Boys will burn. Hot coffee, will burn.
I'll standing at him with that coffee because he will
pour it on you. He was just making get out
of his way.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Comy bird, all right, that's good, all right. This is
from Mike from Jersey. I'm gonna switch it a little
bit for you, Elsie. But Mike from Jersey wants to know, Marty,
if you could sack any quarterback past or present, who
would it be, Elsie. I'm changing it to if you
could catch a pass from any quarterback past or present,
who would it be?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So, Marty, who do you want to sack?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I'd like to have sack Jim Kelly Again.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You've already got him.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
You gave him the business, remember no, But you know
what you'd like to hit those guys like Jim Kelly.
Every time you hit Dan Marino, you thought it was
a sack, but the ball wasn't there.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
He got rid of the ball. So early.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
But guys like Jim Kelly Phil Simms, they got up,
they were they were pissed off at their offensive linemen.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
They were bad.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
And that's the type of attitude you have to have
if you're going to be a leader of the team.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
What about you, Elsie, Like I said, who did you?
Would you want to catch it? Or if you could
sack a quarterback he could sack him too.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Okay, Well, I guess I would love to catch a
pass from Patrick Mahomes. I watched the way he throw
the ball and killow when these guys catch it. So
anybody you want to catch a ball from right now
this day will be him. And then if I could
sack anybody, I probably would have wanted to hit Brett Fahr.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I'm just being honest. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's a very good one. Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Final final questions is from Susan from Jersey. Is there
a piece of advice from a coach or a former
teammate that you still carry with you now? You either
of you can answer anytime. I'll go first, Elsie or Marty.
You want to go first, doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
You know what I would?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I would love to go first and I would love
to give the advice that coach Bryant gave me today.
I told him I was dropping out of school to
go into the NFL. He said, I want you to
remember this. A winner in the game of life is
the person that gives of themselves so others can grow.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I had nothing to do with football.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Love its great advice.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
As an individual, give of yourself so others can grow.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And above your head, says the Marty Lyons Foundation, I
think you're doing just that awesome.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Well, Miles a little bit harsh, but I got it
from Eric Mangini, who was probably one of the brightest
coaches I've ever played for, but one of the toughest.
And he always he said that was one thing that
always resonated with me to this day. And he said,
don't you ever confuse effort with results. And I was like, WHOA,
that is deep because a lot of times we say
we tried our boss and we laid it out on
the line, and he was like, that ain't good enough.
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You have to get the w. So that's one of
the things he always said to me. And now, like
I said, it stuck with me to this day, and
I said that to my son one day and he
was like, well that's me.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
All right.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We actually have one more question. This is Katie from
New Jersey. What is it like playing in the cold
weather and hard plastic shoulder pads because's gonna be cold
this weekend?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Well, I go first, So it isn't because I didn't
wear a lot of paths to be honest, and oh no,
I wore thin shoulder pads.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I was a wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I wasn't true, that's true. I did wear like plastic
bubble wrap.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Nah.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
No.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I need to be able to get away, and they
make sidelines for us to step out of, bounce or
get down. So I took advantage of being a wild
out and not having to get hit. So it probably
a little bit different from me than it is from
misteron Lions.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Well, I know one thing you'll see. If you're winning,
it's not cold. If you're not winning, it gets cold
and colder and colder, And that's all you're worried about. Man,
you get that lead, especially this week playing the Dolphins,
They're coming up from South Beach to up here. Are
they going to be acclimated to the weather if they
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jump out and they get a lead, on the Jets.
That's a big advantage to weather. They're not even gonna
worry about it. What they Jets have to do is
come out know that you can beat the Dolphins. You
should have beat them down there in South Beach, but
you didn't. You made too many mistakes. Jump on them
right away and then make them feel that cold weather.
Make it go from their shoulder pads to their bones
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to now they're looking up at the clock.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
In hell, man, we got to get back in the
locker room.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
That's how you beat the dolphins.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Did you have the heated benches? Do you both both
have heated benches better? Or is that new?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I don't think we did. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I did.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, we had those big, you know blowers on the sideline.
You know, you take to a construction site and we
would sit here and try to warm up our feet
and everything.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
It was cold.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
But uh, you know, the game has changed and the players,
you know, they have the heated benches and they put
their helmets on something that heats their helmet to keep
their helmet warm.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
And it's great.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
But un't like that, right, Marty, what's that? Back in
your day, it wasn't like that. You walked five miles
of school uphill in the snow.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
No, you got that right, But Elsie, we appreciate you
coming on. I'll see you down in Jacksonville next week
after this game. And uh again I want to start off.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Sorry, Sorry, are you gonna be in Jacksonville, Elsie?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I'm born and raised That's where I live.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Oh, you're gonna get the game though, Now I don't
know if.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
They're gonna let me go to the game yet. I
gotta get with Olivia and see if I come.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
To to get that game. We'll see you there.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Sorry, yeah, we'll see it at the game. Though I'll start,
I'll end it. Like I said in the beginning, Elsie,
we're proud of the man. If people look back at
your life and everything that you had to go through
to get to where you are today, that's hard work,
that's effort, that's believing in yourself, that's picking yourself up
when nobody else was around.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Hey, man, we're proud of.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Thank you so much. That means the world to me.
Thank you, and you.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Keep making the difference by what you're doing, so you
just continue to shine and help others. So hey appreciate
you joining us hopefully we'll see you in Jacksonville on
the field at the game.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
And dang keep doing it, keep being you, Mario. We'll
see you next week.
Hello, and welcome to Week thirteen of jet Stream.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm today Cochley alongside my co host each and every week,
the One the Only Marty Lyons Marty, we have a
great show today because we have a great guest. You know,
let's just bring him on immediately, Jets fan, our guest
is one of the most electric receivers in franchise history.
He's here on the podcast with us. The man who
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brought speed, swagger and countless big time plays. You know
what I'm talking about, The one the Only Lavernius calls ELC.
Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Thank alf for having me.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well, you know what, the one thing that you didn't
throw winto that introduction is, you know, through all the
adversity that Elsie faced in his life, look at the
man that he is today. We're all proud of you, LC,
and you should be proud of yourself. Man, you did
a fantastic job, you know, coming with the Jets, you
made your moves around the NFL, but you came back
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retired as a Jet and we're proud of you and
thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I was like a straight catch y'all feled me one
time and I just kept coming back so It's one
of the things. Jets loved me. I love them, and
it's just it was a match made in heaven.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
First of all, I'll say I'm gonna start with call
you officer, Lavernias Clos.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You're not a police officer. How cool is that talk
about that?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, it's just it's different. You know.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
I got into this job hoping to, you know, try
to impact the community and the kids and the youth
in my community make a difference because police officers may
have been such such an instrumental in my lives with
the Police Athletic League program and stuff like that. When
I come up, I play sports in it. And then
to have the opportunity to join an organization was it
was a dream come true. But I didn't know that
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I had to go through so much training in order
to be able to get to the point where I'm
at now, and still have to train another three months
to be able to get to what I was really
trying to do.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
But I've learned so much. I have a new.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Perspective on what law enforcement officers do, how to affect
the community because a lot of times when they call police,
people are not having great days. I can tell you
that much and then their death we have to come
in and show up and try to calm things down
and give them a little bit of relief of what's
going on in their lives at that time.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Well, see what did you take from the game of
football that made you be able to transfer everything you
learned on the football field to now law enforcement.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
I would have to say just teamwork first of all,
because again you're always working with a group of guys
and ladies now that are that.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
We always have each other back no matter what.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
If I show up to a scene or a situation,
I'm going to make sure my fellow officer is okay
and then figure things out from there. So having each
other's back and then also figuring out what's going on.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And then being able to relate to people no.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Matter what's happening, that's what it's pretty much about, because
again it's about having that relationship with people and developing
those bonds.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And then having the community trust you.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Because in football, we had to trust each other that
the person next to he was going to do his
job and he was going to do your job.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So it's all pretty much the same.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And Lavernia, let's talk about being a Jet. What was
it like being a New York Jet playing here in
the city at.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Such a young age.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I didn't understand the magnitude of what it meant to
play in New York because that was.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The only thing I knew.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I left from Tallahasse and went straight into New York,
so I didn't know about smaller markets or anything like that.
So coming to New York, that was all I knew,
and I didn't notice that if you could have just
a tad bit of success in such a large media market,
that you can get to love. But I'm getting now.
Of course my name ain't in the raptors like mster
lyons here, but the people because I played hard and
I showed a lot of grip, they resonated with me
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and they loved me to this day and every time
I go back, I get so much love from the
New York Jets fans.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
How world party for you? Jump you jump in?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
How cool is that you were at the game, Dylana
Falcons game you got to do the Jets share?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
What was that like for you to start the game?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I mean excited. It's the first time I've ever done it.
You know, I'm not a big broad ride guy. But
I wanted to try it out. They gave me an
opportunity to do it. Of course, they was honor our
first respondence. So it just just one of those things
is just be great to be a part of the
organization and the fact they still consider me. I'm just
thankful that I have the opportunity.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
We see.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Let's talk about today's yet. So you see what Aaron
Glenn is doing. He's building something here and you get
that feeling. But with five games to go, these guys
are going to be fighting for a roster spot, not
this year, but for next year's team. What do you
think about the job that they're doing and how they're
building that philosophy withinside that locker room.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Well, you could tell that whatever whatever we're saying out
here on the outside doesn't matter to those guys in
that locker room because the way they're playing, they're playing
for each other. The grit and the toughness that they
have and the heart that they're showing at this time
of year when nobody's giving them a chance says not
only a lot about the players, but also their head coach.
Getting them up to play week in and week out,
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and they're not walking out there just laying down and
allowing other team to run them over.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
They're playing hard whether they win or lose.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
So I mean it's a lot of respect to Aaron
and what he's done in that building, and you can
tell that he's trying to build something not only for now,
but tomorrow and more years are coming. I'm just thankful
I had an opportunity to play with him also on
his teammate and see where he's coming from.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's what I was going to ask you. What was
it like being a teammate of Aaron.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
What I can't tell you about it is, like I've
said before, I mean just seeing him how he's interacting
with the media, because I haven't had an opportunity to
be up that much.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But the person that I saw on TV wasn't the
same person that I knew.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
The the standoff is the hard outer shell the and
I knew it was a playful, always happy, energetic guy,
fun to be around. You would go to war with
him any day of the week, and then you would
run through a brick wall.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
For him because that's the type of teammate he is.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
So I think he's showing something on the outside to
us that he's showing him something different about him. Because
I was thinking the guy that he was showing us,
I was like, I don't think I would play for
him real well, but the way that plan, he's showing
them what I played with, So I think he's got
to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You know, the one thing Janet that I respect with
OC is you know what, there was good seasons and
then there was bad seasons.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
But after the.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Game, part of my responsibility of doing the Jets Radio
was to go in the locker room and try to
interview get that emotional reaction after a game, especially if
they lost. And ELC and you talk about Nick Mangole
and the Brick Shaw Ferguson, they were the three that
we could always rely on that they were going to
stand up right in front of their lockers and answer questions.
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And I think, Elsie, that shows the type of person
you are and the type of man you are. And
you know what, they the players of today need to
understand that there's a responsibility that when they Jet organization
sends somebody in there to answer those tough questions.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Well, again, I think a lot of things have changed.
I think, but when I came into the League, it
was an older locker room. You had guys like Vinnie Testaverdi,
Marvin Jones, Moe Lewis.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Who with Brian Cox, Dwight Stone.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
So we had an older roster and they took us
under the wings their wings and taught us how to
be a professional, and they told us what to do.
And from what I understand these days, you got to
remember a lot of these locker rooms are really young,
so they don't have people coming in that's taking guys
into that wings.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I think some of the heck guys that are or
the leaders of the locker room are probably four or
five of your guys, and that's who guys are having
to learn from. They don't know enough about being a
professional and how to deal with the media enough to
talk to these guys and teach them how to be professionals.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So I think if we can get back being a
hierarchy in the locker room and.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
The older guys teaching these younger guys how to deal
with the media and also be a professional, it'll change
things for you guys.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Well, one guy that's doing that is Tyrod Taylor. He
had an excellent game this past weekend against the Falcons.
And you know, look at the longevity, what sixteen seventeen
years he's been playing in the league.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yes, sir, well, I think again. But he had the
opportunity to get on the field work with those guys
in play. It's hard for you to take leadership from
a guy that's not playing. I'm just being honest about it.
So when you have a guy that's just kind of
a back up, and he a backup quarterback, you'll hear
him out, but you kind of like you ain't even
out there with us.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But it ain't.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
We ain't trying to hear but the fact that he
started and he played the game and he produced results.
Now guys have started listening and understanding that this guy
knows what he's talking talking about. He's been here before,
and he's leading us really well.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
All right, Elsie, the Jet to play in Miami obviously
not Monday night miracle game.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
But you were in that game. What do you remember
about that game?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I just remember getting my first professional touchdown. It's one
of the highlights of my life. And to be a
part of such a game where half the stadium had left,
and then once we started making a comeback, everybody started
running back in and with the stadium half full. It's
probably the lottest has ever been in any game I've
ever played at in the Meadowlands. So that's that's the
most memorable thing. It's probably the most best memories I
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have in my football career.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Do you sell the ball? Where's the ball now?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Oh? Theyre in the garage somewhere.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Find that ball, Elsie.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
It's around him some well, but again a lot of
times these days, a lot of these kids they don't
even know who I am.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I was at the game this past week, and that
parents is like, well, you know who that is? And
the kids I have no clue.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
And I'm like telling that he probably wasn't born when
I when I got into the league.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So I can imagine how it is. You missed the line.
I know it's rough.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
You know, we'll see you can drop the mystery man.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Because I was up there in the we were up
there in the mezazine together and uh, I saw the
love and the affection that and you're very humbled in
your remarks, but I saw the love and affection and
that the Jet fans had for you, and you know,
they came over to me and I was the same way.
You know, uh, to be able to go back and
be remembered, it's something special, something you kind of hold
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on to, and it kind of makes you feel good
about where you were back then and where you are now.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yes, it does.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
I mean it touches my heart just to see fans
actually remember me and recognize me because again we played.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Of course they know who you guys are. I went
to Legends right here. You guys are too humble. I'll say,
come on, two Jet Legends.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
But but again, I mean some of the years and
you try to tell the young guys like one thing
is going to happen. They're going to kick off on
Sundays with it without you. So as time passes, you
realize that, you know, the drafting guys. Every year they're
going to have a draft, and so people are going
to come in. There's a lot of great players. So
again you can becoming you can be forgotten in an instant.
I mean, so that's one of those things. You just
be thankful that somebody does recognize you. And I'm thankful
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again that New York has just showed me so much
love and that organization has been great to me and
my family.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
You know what else you just mentioned it, man, talk
a little bit about your family. I know you're living
down there in Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yes, sir, so I have four kids. Of course, I
have two boys and two girls. My oldest son is
working over in time out of bank. My youngest son
is in Harvard law school right now. And then I
have my daughter, she's going back. She just graduated from Bathoune.
Then I have an eight year old, so tell me,
I started all the way over. So one of those
things where you know, the kids have kept me going,
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kept me youthful when I started on this law enforcement journey,
and they found that I was actually doing it because
I didn't tell him I was gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
When I started, they thought I was having midlife crisis.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
So of course they came home to check in home
see see how I was doing, because everybody thought I
was having a mental break down or something of that nature.
But I'm really not. I think this fits my personality.
It gives me a sense of purpose again, being back
in the police department, and I feel good about being
able to just do something and leave a legacy behind,
not only just being recognized as a football player, but
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a person that did a lot in the community and
did his best to get back as much as he
could while.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
He was here on his planet Earth.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Yeah, it is so.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I think you hit the nail on the head when
you said the sense of purpose. I think everybody in life,
once you find that sense of purpose, you always give
one hundred percent. People go, well, give me one hundred
and ten percent. Well, you can't, because the most of
you can give is one hundred percent, and very few
of us will ever get even close to one hundred
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percent unless we have that person, that passion and the
purpose for why we're doing it.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Yes, sir, and I think I found it again. It
was rough in the beginning. I don't tell anybody no lives.
Of course, when I first started this, they tased me
on the first day. They cap, Oh my gosh, seriously,
Yeah it happened. I like being honest with people because
people like, oh, I think I want to do I said, well,
let me tell you about what happens before you get
to that point, because a lot of people don't understand
what you have to go through the academy.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You're going to get tased, You're going to get.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Pepper sprayed, I got pepper ball and I got gassed,
and that's that's just part of what you have to
go through to get through it. And if you renewing
on any of those, you're not going to have this job.
And that doesn't go with all the running of the
miles and the pull ups and the pushups and everything else,
and the studying that you have to do on a
daily basis to understand not only the law, but then
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understand when you can and you when you can't use force,
when you can't use force.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
All of those things are very important with this job.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
So again, just learning and understanding and then seeing what
police have to deal with on a regular basis has
changed the outlook on their jobs in my life period.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I think as soon as I got tased, that's one thing.
When they pepper sprayed me, I'm out the door.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You know, I enjoying any of that stuff.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
So you know, shit and giggles man, that don't cut it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, just cheering it. No nothings.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It's rough, And I mean I wouldn't tell anybody anything different.
Just like when people tell you getting tattoos don't hurt,
I say that's a lie. They hurt real bad. So
you know, oh it didn't hurt yet it hurts. So
everything I'm telling you, just be prepared mentally. You can't
get off the couch and just walk in here and
think you're going to get this job, because you know
it's a lot of running obstacle courses and then it's
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a mental game as well as a physical game. So,
like I said, it was right at home with being
playing in the NFL. It was actually tough of coming
from the NFL because they were rough on me because
they felt because I had an NFL background that I
would be better at the physical stuff, but they didn't
recognize that I have. I'm forty seven years old with
two metal hips, so but I was able to get
through it. I'm excited about where I'm at now, and
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I think anybody can do it if you set your
mind to it. But have your heart in your mindset
to go through something you probably haven't been through before,
and you'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
All right, got one more question for and them, we'll
let you go. What was it?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I know you said maybe your first touchdown in the
Miami Miracle is maybe one of your best memories. What
other memory do you remember about playing as a.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Jet oh my years with HERM Edwards man, I mean,
it was so exciting just being a part of that
that that group. I know we didn't get very far,
but hearn was an amazing coach to play for. And
he treated us like men, which is what I appreciated
about playing for HERM and new was and the way
he talked to us as guys. And one of the
things that stuck with me that he always said does
he said, he said, the guys, I'm gonna treat everybody fail,
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but I'm not gonna treat you the same.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You're not gonna get the same.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Privileges I give Curtis Martin because you're not Curtis Martin.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
But I will be fair. And that's one of the
things that's always stuck with me.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
So you always he's always treated everybody fair, but he
got treat everybody the same. So I think that's one
of the things I took from that and it's still
stick with me to this day. So I don't take
anything personally if I don't get the same thing that
the guy next to me gets. So if I get
a little bit more than him, or get a little less,
because I know I'm not him and maybe I haven't
put enough work in to get what he's done.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Yeah, and you know what, I have to read rate
that and stamped that too.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Man.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Herm.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Edwards was great to work for. When we did the
Jet Journal show. He would basically tell us the whole
game plan and then you knew what you could use
on the show or you knew what you could use
on the radio, and you knew what not to you.
You didn't cross that boundary of trust. And he was
just such a good man, a man of faith too,
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that brought it all to the table. So yeah, he
was somebody special.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Shout out her, thank you for everything you did for us,
man and my family, because he gave me the opportunity
to play. So without her, I probably might not have
sought a feel person.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
To work with.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I mean amazing him and his wife was amazing not
only to the guys on the team, but just just period.
I mean, Hern was a hard worker and his personality
says enough. I mean just the way people loving and
did him today when you see him on ESPN, that's
just the way Hern was and still is.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, and today her and his wife used to fly
in the back of the plane with where we were sitting.
He wasn't upfront with the players, right, Oh.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I think I was like, he's my kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
For the players. That's how her was.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well, actually you know what we got. We do fan questions, Elsie.
Do you want to stick around for a couple of
fan questions and you can both answer them?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Does that work?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (16:22):
It works all right.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Time for question time.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I like to do a drum roll, Marty kind of
does it all right? This is Joe from Jersey. I'll
let you go first, Marty, and then you think why,
then we'll go back forth. Joe from Jersey wants to
know who was your funniest teammate, Marty.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
My funniest teammate, But I don't know. We had quite
a few of them. I would say the funniest, that's
a tough question. It might have been Bob Crable, Okay,
Bob Crable, Lance Mell. They had that dry humor to him,
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you know, not really our spoken, but when they did speak,
you know, you listen. When it was a joke, you'd
look at him like, okay, where's the punchline?
Speaker 6 (17:08):
H But one was from Notre Dame. One was from
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
What did you expect, solid point, Elsie?
Speaker 6 (17:15):
What about you?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I would have to say probably Mo Lewis. And he
had that dry humor also. I mean I just remember him.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Coming down the hallway early in the morning in my
career yelling hot coffee. Boys will burn. Hot coffee, will burn.
I'll standing at him with that coffee because he will
pour it on you. He was just making get out
of his way.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Comy bird, all right, that's good, all right. This is
from Mike from Jersey. I'm gonna switch it a little
bit for you, Elsie. But Mike from Jersey wants to know, Marty,
if you could sack any quarterback past or present, who
would it be, Elsie. I'm changing it to if you
could catch a pass from any quarterback past or present,
who would it be?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So, Marty, who do you want to sack?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I'd like to have sack Jim Kelly Again.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You've already got him.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
You gave him the business, remember no, But you know
what you'd like to hit those guys like Jim Kelly.
Every time you hit Dan Marino, you thought it was
a sack, but the ball wasn't there.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
He got rid of the ball. So early.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
But guys like Jim Kelly Phil Simms, they got up,
they were they were pissed off at their offensive linemen.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
They were bad.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
And that's the type of attitude you have to have
if you're going to be a leader of the team.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
What about you, Elsie, Like I said, who did you?
Would you want to catch it? Or if you could
sack a quarterback he could sack him too.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Okay, Well, I guess I would love to catch a
pass from Patrick Mahomes. I watched the way he throw
the ball and killow when these guys catch it. So
anybody you want to catch a ball from right now
this day will be him. And then if I could
sack anybody, I probably would have wanted to hit Brett Fahr.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I'm just being honest. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's a very good one. Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Final final questions is from Susan from Jersey. Is there
a piece of advice from a coach or a former
teammate that you still carry with you now? You either
of you can answer anytime. I'll go first, Elsie or Marty.
You want to go first, doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
You know what I would?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I would love to go first and I would love
to give the advice that coach Bryant gave me today.
I told him I was dropping out of school to
go into the NFL. He said, I want you to
remember this. A winner in the game of life is
the person that gives of themselves so others can grow.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I had nothing to do with football.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Love its great advice.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
As an individual, give of yourself so others can grow.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And above your head, says the Marty Lyons Foundation, I
think you're doing just that awesome.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Well, Miles a little bit harsh, but I got it
from Eric Mangini, who was probably one of the brightest
coaches I've ever played for, but one of the toughest.
And he always he said that was one thing that
always resonated with me to this day. And he said,
don't you ever confuse effort with results. And I was like, WHOA,
that is deep because a lot of times we say
we tried our boss and we laid it out on
the line, and he was like, that ain't good enough.
(20:05):
You have to get the w. So that's one of
the things he always said to me. And now, like
I said, it stuck with me to this day, and
I said that to my son one day and he
was like, well that's me.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
All right.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We actually have one more question. This is Katie from
New Jersey. What is it like playing in the cold
weather and hard plastic shoulder pads because's gonna be cold
this weekend?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Well, I go first, So it isn't because I didn't
wear a lot of paths to be honest, and oh no,
I wore thin shoulder pads.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I was a wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I wasn't true, that's true. I did wear like plastic
bubble wrap.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Nah.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
No.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I need to be able to get away, and they
make sidelines for us to step out of, bounce or
get down. So I took advantage of being a wild
out and not having to get hit. So it probably
a little bit different from me than it is from
misteron Lions.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Well, I know one thing you'll see. If you're winning,
it's not cold. If you're not winning, it gets cold
and colder and colder, And that's all you're worried about. Man,
you get that lead, especially this week playing the Dolphins,
They're coming up from South Beach to up here. Are
they going to be acclimated to the weather if they
(21:13):
jump out and they get a lead, on the Jets.
That's a big advantage to weather. They're not even gonna
worry about it. What they Jets have to do is
come out know that you can beat the Dolphins. You
should have beat them down there in South Beach, but
you didn't. You made too many mistakes. Jump on them
right away and then make them feel that cold weather.
Make it go from their shoulder pads to their bones
(21:36):
to now they're looking up at the clock.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
In hell, man, we got to get back in the
locker room.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
That's how you beat the dolphins.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Did you have the heated benches? Do you both both
have heated benches better? Or is that new?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I don't think we did. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I did.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, we had those big, you know blowers on the sideline.
You know, you take to a construction site and we
would sit here and try to warm up our feet
and everything.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
It was cold.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
But uh, you know, the game has changed and the players,
you know, they have the heated benches and they put
their helmets on something that heats their helmet to keep
their helmet warm.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
And it's great.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
But un't like that, right, Marty, what's that? Back in
your day, it wasn't like that. You walked five miles
of school uphill in the snow.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
No, you got that right, But Elsie, we appreciate you
coming on. I'll see you down in Jacksonville next week
after this game. And uh again I want to start off.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Sorry, Sorry, are you gonna be in Jacksonville, Elsie?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I'm born and raised That's where I live.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Oh, you're gonna get the game though, Now I don't
know if.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
They're gonna let me go to the game yet. I
gotta get with Olivia and see if I come.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
To to get that game. We'll see you there.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Sorry, yeah, we'll see it at the game. Though I'll start,
I'll end it. Like I said in the beginning, Elsie,
we're proud of the man. If people look back at
your life and everything that you had to go through
to get to where you are today, that's hard work,
that's effort, that's believing in yourself, that's picking yourself up
when nobody else was around.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Hey, man, we're proud of.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Thank you so much. That means the world to me.
Thank you, and you.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Keep making the difference by what you're doing, so you
just continue to shine and help others. So hey appreciate
you joining us hopefully we'll see you in Jacksonville on
the field at the game.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
And dang keep doing it, keep being you, Mario. We'll
see you next week.
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