July 26, 2025 • 49 mins
Host Eric Allen is joined by NFL Network's Judy Battista following the Jets fourth training camp practice. Battista breaks down the Jets' first week of practice and highlights several players that stood out. Later he is joined by Irish WWE Superstar Sheamus for a conversation about his visit to Jets Training Camp.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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how has your day out here at Jets camp?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
In awesome? Spirited practice? I spirited is the only word
you ever used for practice? Right, spirited practice? It was
really good to see justin Fields. That was kind of
a surprise. Get out there and throw the ball around
a little bit, really good and then had a good
talk with ag and can't ask for anything more.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You are a national correspondent. Where were you when you
heard about the news that Fields had gone off? Was
being looked at in the medical tent, was carted off
the field.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I was.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was home and doing what reporters do when they're
home and trying to find out what's going on right
on Twitter, right, and so I saw the first you know,
from your beat writers, like Justin Fields just pulled up.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Justin Fields is being looked at.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Justin Fields is going off on a cart, and I
was just like, oh my god. But then I'm sorry.
Very quickly it became clear. I thought, it became clear
that it was not a dire situation because they somebody noted,
I can't remember who that he was writing in the
front of the cart, and that's not usually what happens
when something very bad has happened. They're usually riding on
the back of the cart with the trainer. And then
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fortunately we got the news. But for that first hour
or however much time that lap, it's like I was
getting texts from friends who were Jets fans.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Were like, what you know, what happened? And who's the
backup quarterback?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You know, people freaked out, as you well know, they
a lot of bad memories came flooding back.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It was the final team rep in the first period
on Thursday. So it's the second practice and we're basically
recapping the first four days of practice right now with you.
He throws an incomplete pass to Mason Tyler, great covers
by Quincy Williams, So the play looks rather innocent. Then
you see him head to the sideline where he's favorably
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the favoring the right leg limping, put him in the cart,
had out, get the medical evaluation, and then a couple of
hours later the team releases the following information that this
located toe. They're going to manage it day to day.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Not bad.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, so here's Saturday, it comes, number seven is on
the field. Yeah, speaking of number seven, seven on seven,
Baldon touched the grounds.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I thought, first of all, I thought, even if before
we knew that he was actually going to be in
the seven on seven, like during the warm ups when
they were stretching and everything, like he was bouncing around
on the right like alternating feet bouncing, and I was like, well,
I mean, you know, he's putting weight on it. Obviously
he's moving fine, like he's moving without any he doesn't
look like he's favoring it. So that was encouraging just
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to see that that he was could do all of that.
And then you know he was thrown on the side
for a little bit and then he did the seven
on seven and that's great.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
We talked to Aaron Glenn after the practice and he said,
you know, they still want to bring him along slowly.
They do not want to overdo anything. Because I said, like, well,
does this mean he's going to be full go?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Now?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
When you got the day off front and then you
come back and you're in pads, is he full go?
And he's like, well, you know, we still want to
ease him back. They want to make sure when he's
out there, he's really ready to go like that, Why
why do anything that could aggravate an injury that doesn't
need to be aggravated.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You're still weeks and weeks and weeks away.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You want him to be Okay, we're in July, and
I still think we're in July, right. It come Monday, right,
So he's two days practice into here, and what we're
talking about here is that he's already throwing at seven
and seven.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
He's I mean, I thought today was just such great news.
To see him there was just great. But I think
now AG said he feels fine. AG basically is holding
him back. I mean, he wants to be full go.
He feels like he could be full go. They are
holding him back. You know, there's no reason to not
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operate with an abundance of caution when it's July whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Today is twenty sixth.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
We've been watching Fields since he entered the NFL in
twenty twenty one. This is his third team in three years.
As far as the situation here with the Jets, what
do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I think it's probably the best situation he's going to
have been in. Look the situation last year and the
Steelers is good. The Steelers are a good team and
well coached, but Russell Wilson was also on the team,
and so you always knew that they knew from the
beginning they wanted Russell Wilson to be the starter. Like
Mike Tomlin was clear about that from training camp that
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he viewed Russell as the starter, and so you knew
that was always there. Even though Justin played well those
first however six weeks whatever it was, he was playing well.
They were playing conservatively, but there were fourn too, and
he was playing well, so you know, and then they
made the change because they wanted more aggression, which Russell
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could give them. So I thought, I thought that situation
was good for Justin Fields because he had really good
players around him. I think this situation is better because
you have the head coach wants you to be the
starting quarterback and has an awful lot of confidence that
he still has not gotten anywhere close to reaching his ceiling,
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like they think like there's all upside for him. They
love his style of leadership, like they just like the steadiness,
and so I think this is the best situation because
they have confidence in him and faith and they're fully
behind him, and any player would want that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Do you view him as an ascending player like the
Jets are saying that to your point on tap potential,
we see a lot here and if you look at
his numbers, passer rating, completion percentage, turnovers, everything's gotten better
each of his four seasons.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I do view him as an ascending player, and again
because I don't think he's been in the right situation
for him. Certainly not the right situation in Chicago when
he didn't have the caliber of player and coach around him, right,
he didn't have the appropriate coaching for and I thought
last year we did see glimpses of what he could be,
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that he could manage games well and you know, distribute
the ball and so now I think this is the
right setup for him. Again, he's got the confidence of
the coach and the players. I don't think we can
emphasize enough having Garrett Wilson a guy they're familiar with.
I'm not comparing them to Joe Burrow and Jim R.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Chase.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
But like pre existing chemistry goes a long way when
you're a new quarterback and you're dropping in, like there's
a learning curve, Well, there's not a learning curve. With
the most important receiver on the team, right the superstar
wide receiver. You already know where he likes the ball.
You already know what his timing is. That goes a
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long way and should give Justin a great deal of
comfort that Garrett is out there.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So in the spring, we talked about it in Palm
Beach at the league meetings. You were saying, hey, listen,
the time to extend, Yes, Saus Gardner, Garrett Wilson is now.
And in fact, the Jets come right back before training
camp and they lock in their young stars.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Your reaction great, and I'm glad they did it.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
First of all, it's the right time for the Jets
business side, because the price only is going up and
we have seen that. I don't want to name other teams,
but we have seen when teams wait to extend their
premier players, like the price only gets higher.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
It doesn't behoove the team to wait. That's for sure.
It's great for the player, good for them.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
So certainly, if you identify your young stars, you want
to lock them in as fast as you possibly can.
It's great for Garrett Wilson because.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
He has security.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
He knows last year was you know, sort of rocky,
up and down. It never seemed to really gel with Aaron.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Rodgers, even though he had more than one hundred.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Receptions right well, because he is a superior talent. I mean,
if you remember, some of those receptions were just insane.
I mean I just remember watching some of them.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
People like, haven't we.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
This awesome graphic our team produce this awesome graphic of
him and the extension and one hander again crazy Houston
in front of the nation.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I mean, they are both such good players.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
They're bed rock pieces of the team going forward. And
for a team that is turning the page and starting
a new era. First of all, you want to send
a signal to the locker room like we're going to
take care of our guys. Like, if you're one of
our guys and you're producing, we're going to take care
of you. We want you here. It's important to have
those guys in. It's also important to not have contract distractions.
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And I know people say, oh, no, we tune that out.
It's not really a distraction. It is a distract. It's
a distraction if nothing else for those individual players. And
we've seen that with other teams again where they let
contracts linger. The Bengals have had that a number of years.
It does distract the team. It distracts their teammates because
they get asked about it and they're thinking, like, are
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we going to have was Garrett Wilson coming in, Like
is there going to be a holdout?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
This just erased all of that. No hold outs.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You go in clean, all the business stuff is taken
care of, and now it's all ball.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
It's all ball now.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I really like how they've handled themselves, Darren Mougi and
Aaron Glennon, because not only they lock up Sauce and Garrett,
but they got Jamie Sherwood back at the onset of
free agency. So they're looking at these young guys and
say saying, these are talented players and yes, maybe a
previous regime brought them there.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But we're going to keep them.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, we're going to keep them. We're going to keep
them in house, and they're going to grow with us,
and they're going to be foundational pieces.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
By the way, Well, I thought it was really important.
First of all, they've obviously gotten much younger, which I
think is important anyway, Right, that is the way to
go in the NFL. And I think to their credit,
as you said, these were pieces that were chosen by
the previous regime, To their credit, they recognized the talent
there and.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
They said, like, we want these guys to be part
of the foundation.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
This is a I don't want to say it's a
rebuilding team, but it is still a building team and
you want those pieces there. And again you want it
taking care of releasa that you don't have to think
about it anymore.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
They can just playball.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
There's only a handful of players over thirty on this
roster and coach Gloan addressed the media this week and
he was asked about AVT Elijah Vera Tucker and he
said he we look at this guy as a great
football player, we want him here for the long term
as well. So interesting financial situations on every team, on
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every roster, so because you got guys like Avt. Brece
Hall just talked to the media today and he said,
I look at this is my last chance. Like so
that's his mindset entering the season. As far as practice
is concerned today, what do you think about that one
on one?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I loved that.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I asked Ag about that till he's at the stage.
So we were I don't know how many minutes into
practice there, but you know, the pads are not on yet, right,
they're not tackling to the ground that kind of thing,
and they well the stage set like the team has
sort of gathered around in a semi circle, and they
basically put like a one on one, right, like a
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running back versus the linebacker. And the premiere one, of course,
was Garrett Wilson versus Sauce Gardner and just have them
go at it and see can you get now? They
were not tackling to the ground, but could you tackle?
And the crowd the defense went nuts when Sauce tackled
Garrett Wilson right out in space, out by the boundary.
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I mean, the defense whoa, you know, and Chase Sauce
down so highly competitive, very high energy, and I think
you can see the team coming together, right. And I
asked ag about that driller. He loves that drill.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
He said Detroit did it in Detroit. That's where he
got it from.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But he said, like he's right, this is a game
played in space, Like you have to be able to
tackle in space. They're going to tackle in training camp,
they're going to tackle to the ground. You have to
be able to do this. And you got to see
it in camp. You've got to You've got to do it.
They've got to learn how to do it. He is
all about competition and testing players, stressing players, seeing how
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they react and getting them used to stress and handling it.
Keep saying like this was the third day of practice,
the fourth day of practice, and tomorrow is.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
The day off.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
And he said this is like his favorite day because
players are tired, you know, the families are there. This
is a day where maybe get a little distracted, you
sort of tail off.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And he's, yeah, you know, and off days coming up.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Not interested in tailing off at all. He wants full
go and so he wants to stress players in that
and he wants them to react, and he wants them
to know how to react.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I love practice like a practice was high energy.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
All right.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
So you are one of two people who are out
there on the field today who actually cover the Jets
when Bill Parcells is here cover the Jets when Aaron
Glenn was a player as well. So when you're watching
this and you're taking this all in, do you have
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flashbacks and do you see similarities in Glenn not only
on the field but when you're speaking to him after practice?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Oh yeah, no question, no question.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
When he admonished the media yesterday over like you know,
everybody freaking out over the justin fields injury before we
knew it was serious.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I like the way he handled that because he also
told him listen, I'm going to tell you and tell
you the truth.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, I'm going to be ask you yea, I will
tell you.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm not going to start around it.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Let me find out.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Let's go through the medical evaluation. I'll tell you exactly
what's up.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
But I thought when he admonished the media, I was.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Like, wow, I mean it's like Bill is standing next
to him saying in his ear what to say.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, practice looked a lot like a I don't want
to say it look like a Bill Parcel's, but it
had that same sort of intensity and physicality which you
don't see in the NFL all the time anymore, like
a lot of coaches have because you're so afraid of injuries.
Like they pulled back from that, you know, intense, the
physical kind of practice, and this was a little bit
more old school. He's in everything like, he's just all
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over the place, an all ball like he just wants
to talk about football, like he does not want to.
He doesn't care about all the other stuff. He's football
and that's obviously very parcelly.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And he's got a ton of energy, kind of energy.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
He looks like he could still play. Let's be clear,
he looks like he could still.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
That's how we start a camp that he said that
he got up at three thirty in the morning. He
receives a text from his wife, but she must have
known that he's going to get up early here and
she said, just be ag. Yeah, he doesn't know how
to be anyone else. And what we said on the sideline,
my opinion is he is the right guy at the
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right time, and it means so much to him today
after practice practice. I said, it's well documented in your
history here, but what's it been like now first we
practice and having a fanc here And he was clearly
emotional and he he said, hang with us, hold on
to the role, right.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
He I asked him about you know, he started camp
by saying like he knows the pain of Jets fans
and how it's been tough and he wants to be
part of taking that pain away. And I asked him,
I said, that's a very personal kind of thing for
a coach to say, Like.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Where did that come from?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And he said, well, it is personal, like this is
the team that gave me my chance in the NFL,
and now it's the team that's given me a chance
to be a head coach. Like it's very personal life,
Like the team was not good when they drafted him
nineteen ninety four, right, and then they got really good. Right,
Parcels turned the ship around, and he said, like he
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remembers that feeling, like how great it was, like the excitement,
how fans, how people were and he was talking about
there's nothing better than winning in New York, right, Like
it is when you win in New York, like the
world is yours, and he said he wants fans to
have that again. He wants to play to feel that
they have not been able to feel that feeling. He
wants the organization to have it again. You know, he's
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he's obviously very grateful that he you know, that he's
going to be the head coach here and that this
is the team that gave him a chance to be
a head coach. It means a lot to him that
it was his team. But I was just struck by
how much it means to him personally.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yes, so personal It's got to strike a chord with
every Jet.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Fans, right Like.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
You can say how much maybe you've been suffering, he
can come back to you and say, yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
He knows. He's lived it. He's lived it, right.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
He lived through tough days when he first got to
the Jets, when things were not great, and then lived
through great stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He also made it clear that he's paid attention to
what was happening here. Yeah, along right, my heart is
with you all long right there.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So I've said this a few times, like there have
been a few things that he has said since he
got the job that I thought. I've texted people here
like man like Jets fans are going to like walk
through fire for him. He is so attached emotionally to
the team. He knows what the team's gone through. He
knows about the struggles and the high times and the
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low times, and like he really wants to be a part.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
It means something to him to be a part of.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Them, and he understands big picture. He said, yeah, we're
we want to win the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt obviously, right, but.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
We're going to take a one day mentality each day.
He embraces the work part of it.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
He does.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I asked him about the intensity of practice today and
I said, I assume that's all intentional, right, like you're
ramping up this competition. Because we also talked to Mason
Taylor after practice and he said, you know, Ag himself
is so competitive, and like the team draws from that, right,
like you are very competitive because you see him being
so competitive. And he said, of course that's intentional, like
everything we do is intentional, which I again, you could
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practically hear Bill Parcel say that, right, like everything is
part of the plan.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Elijah Vera Tucker said it. He's all about physicality and accountability.
Those two things he's going to stress.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Listen, officials are in practice like great, and and then
he said, like, listen, we were the most you know,
penalties team last year. That can't that cannot continue. That's accountability, right, Like,
here are the officials. Stop stop getting pre snap penalties.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
All right, listen.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I know you're you got plenty of stops here on
your training camp doors. You're going to the Giants here tomorrow.
But you talked to Mason Tayler. You said in our mambo,
uh to Jets rookies drafted in the second round in
the first round, respectively. Your thoughts on those guys and
maybe watching them and then talking to them after practice.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
There's so this is probably not something a football player
once said about them. But they're like they're so sweet
and young, right, Like they're they're just so nice. I
think they are fired up by Aaron Glenn. Like they
love the intensity of practice. You know, it's their first
training camp, I'm sure. I mean, you know, Mason Taylor
comes from a football family, so he probably has been
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told what training camp is like, but like it's all
new to them.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
So I think they love that.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
They love justin fields, they praised him for his leadership
and how he'll bring the offense together and how steady
he is.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I like them. They're gonna be big pieces.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I mean, yes, I would expect unless something goes hey wire,
I would expect that they will have significant roles as rookies.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, Mambo's getting great work in each day. One of
the stars for me early in camp. I know people
are not going to be sleeping on him anymore because
one McDonald hits out af Sex last year. But you
got McDonald going against Membo each day and that's only
going to make Membo better. And Taylor has really impressed
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me because yes, we knew he had the catching chops,
the receiving chops, but Glenn has pointed out that he's
getting after you as far as blocking.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That's concerned.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So the emphasis with the Jets running a football, But
Mason Taylor is going to catch a lot of balls
in this offense.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yes, which is always right.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
A tight end is always a quarterback's best friend, right,
is such a great safety net for quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, And we've never seen a guy like Fields here
at the quarterback position as far as that skill set,
the dual threat.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
No, I'm excited to see that when he's healthy. I'm
very excited to see how they use that because you're right,
we've never had that here at the Jets, right, we
haven't had that sort of real running threat.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Right, any other storylines that No, I'm just I'm just
very curious to see how the season progresses because it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
The AFC is very hard.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I know we're so isolated here and that's what happens
with me. You're jumping around. I'm here every day and
I'm like, man, this is a talented team.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
This team is.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Gonna it does have it does have talent, but i mean, man,
there's the AFC is top heavy. But I'm interested to see,
Like I feel like Aaron, Glenn and Darren would you
have a plan and have very deliberate steps that they
want to get to along the way, and so I'm
curious to see how that progresses.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Great seeing you, and I know your plan is to
get back to the city exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
We'll see what the shore traffic is like on the way.
But yeah, great to see you.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
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what brings you out here to Jets camp?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Well, we're in summer slim season. We're obviously at MetLife
next week, and of course we're here in Jersey down
the road, uh, the hometown and my wife born and raised,
So we came out here to talk to players here
there opening opening practice and I'm just having the crack, mat.
I'm just having a good time. You're always having a
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good time. Yeah, I just enjoy it, enjoy The fun
part to me at this stage of my career is
like I love, I love getting to meet you people,
get to come to awesome, awesome events and awesome things
like today the practice. So yeah, I just want to enjoy, enjoy,
enjoying my days. All right.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You talked to a few of our players after the practice,
including tight end Zach Koontz, left guard John Simpson. You
talked to another tit and Jeremy Rucker. I know Olu
fash knew the big left tackle he came by as well.
Quincy Williams was out, So what were you talking to
those guys about?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Just generally how's everyone doing. I actually Rooker and Zach
I met them at the tight End University, the deal
in Nashville, the Kittler puts on every year. It was
great events. So obviously we all bonded and had the
crack at that event about a month ago, so it
was good to just catch up with them again. They've
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got great players in this team and a lot of
great individuals, great kids in this team, and just watching
them out in the field there, everyone's super passionate. Everyone's
super hyped and really excited for the new Season's that's
what you want to see from your team. And all
those guys are They're great. You know, it's funny. I
think I was saying the d earlier on Who's awesome.
By the way, she's behind the camera, she make sure
(24:33):
you know I was taken care of today. But just
like the fact that you know, I'm getting older every
year and then the players are getting younger. I just
see a bunch of kids out there just you know,
basically bright eyed, bushy tail and ready to like just
live in their dream playing in the NFL and playing
for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
What's your reaction though, when professional athletes are running up
to talk to you, because it's not like that for
every person who's going to interview these guys after to practice.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Oh, it's cool, Like it's really cool. You know. I
kind of noticed that when I went to that ty
End University thing that that's phenomenal. It's a phenomenal event,
by the way, and bringing all those guys together, Kittle's
done a great job. And Kittle and his wife done
a great job as well do putting that together, the Kittles,
I should say, but they were great. I was funny
(25:21):
when I was kinda where I got the first taste.
But because like there, I was ten years old, saw
would beat John Cena and and I was this and that,
and I'm like, man, these are any kids, dude, you
know what I mean? Like these are just these are
just kids watching me when I debut. So it's it's cool.
I was very unexpected for me, to be honest, to
see that reaction, but you know it's I'm not gonna lie.
(25:42):
It makes me feel pretty special. But that like, I've
done a lot of cool things in my career, and
as kids, they watched it, So them coming up and
talking to me and chatting away, talking about stuff that
I've forgotten ever happened in my career is very very cool.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
You talk about these guys as kids. Yeah, you are
a couple decades older than I'm older than you. But
how do you feel because you're still out there performing?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, you know. I was having a conversation one of
my best mates back home on Arland last night. I
was just saying, like, you know, sometimes I feel like
when you're in a whatever career in whether it's NFL,
whether it's w w A, you know, there's a road
to get there, in the journey to get there, and
people don't fans don't see that. You know, there's a
(26:28):
lot of sacrifice that has to be made, a lot
of hard works getting up when you don't want to
get up and go training when all your friends are
out having fun, you know, whether whether it's crap lash
and rain outside or the snow, and you still have
to get to practice, and you still have to work out,
and you still have to study, study the business you
want to be in, the sports you want to be in.
You know, for me, I've never forgotten that journey and yeah,
(26:51):
I've had a lot of success, but I still feel
I'm as passionate now that I've ever been. I have
never lost that passion. Probably in some ways I'm more
passionate now than I was when I've first started. Why
is that, you know, I don't know. I still feel
my my type of mentality is I just feel like
I always have something to prove, Like I always feel
like I've got to prove something to myself and to
the fans. Like people kind of maybe don't remember, but
(27:13):
the first part of my career, people hated me. There
was there's a lot of stuff that went around, like
trying to undermine my own success and my own hard work,
whether it was politics. There was more of a politician,
which I really wasn't, and that like I took easier
routes into to become W champion, Like when I when
I first when I was when my first W title,
I had no idea what was going to happen until
(27:34):
two hours before the show. Really, yeah, you know, you know,
I just this has always been it was always my
dream to do this. So the first part of it
I think was marble. The fact that, like you know,
I was undeserving of what I got, no matter how
hard I worked now, no matter how much sweat and blood,
I left, our tears, whatever you want to call it,
I left in the ring every night. And then you know,
(27:55):
on the second half there is that. But then I
knew other end of it. I haven't been a successful
title wise, or I haven't, you know, the first part
was very much like I've won everything except for the
Icy title, which is still the title I have not one,
and I still have it's on my book a list
to when it's very high on that priority list. But
(28:15):
I just feel like I was very successful first part
of my career, and then the second part, you know,
I feel like while the people are just seeing, like,
you know, appreciating the work I put in and trying
to elevate the younger talent and trying to bring people
up and give the audience a banger match that they
haven't seen on the show, and just you know, leave
it out there. And I think people kind of at
(28:37):
this stage appreciate that I go out there in my
heart in my sleeve and I don't leave anything. I
leave everything in the ring. You know.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Can you speak about the relatability factor that you have
with these guys that you said, hey, maybe some of
these guys are kids, but everybody has their own journey
and like you said, you to take so many steps
to climb up that ladder. And much like these guys
are out there on the professional field and the Jets
(29:05):
are trying collectively to go to another level that they
haven't been frankly in a long time.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, look I get it, you know. Like again it's
this just like the Jets are huge franchise, Like you
have a lot of a lot of teams in the NFL,
but like I knew the Jets in Ireland, you know,
I was well aware the Jets, the Bears, the Giants,
the Dolphins, like that, there's the Cowboys, you know, and Eagles.
(29:33):
They're they're in that group of like of core NFL teams.
And like I'm well aware who the Jets were before
even like came over here and started really getting into
watching American football. And look, look those lads are today today.
It's nearly one hundred degrees temperature, right, there's people sitting
in the stands watching them. Obviously, the first open practice,
the first what's the official term again, that's.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Open first first, Yeah, first open, first open public practice.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
So they're out there, they're wearing helme, they're wearing they're
wearing pads. They're like they're that it's like crazy heat
out there, and they're they're out there given everything they
possibly can. I know, I know fans expect a lot
because people think about like, well, these kids are coming
and these NFL players come in on huge salaries, and
I know, like sometimes like oh, he's making all this money,
in this money, But like at the same time, you know,
(30:20):
like it's easy for some of us who aren't on
that field and aren't putting in that practice to to
you know, sit in the couch and judge and say, well,
you should be doing better and should that. Like what
happens on that on that field is years and years
of hard work and sacrifice, and things happen in an
instant that can go wrong. It can go your way
or not go your way. But watching those guys today,
(30:40):
like they're all hungry, they all want to succeed. There's
nobody out on that on that on that field who's
just phoning it in or just wants to do the
bare minimum. They're all busting their arse. So as for
the Jets fans out there, who obviously, you know, have
seen a lot of disappointment over the years, like know
that those guys are doing everything they can to turn
that around.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
You know, do you ever wonder if you had the
opportunity to play ball back in the day because you
started out as a rugby player. I got to imagine
there weren't a lot of opportunities in Ireland growing up.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Played tagle football, no glass starr, They're fine. I don't
need the glasses, that's all right. Yeah, Look, I love
playing rugby. I didn't actually didn't even get into rugby
till later age. I played Gaelic football, which is our
national sport, hurling and football, and I you know, I
loved it. It's fast paced, it's great and the more.
And then I started lifting. I was in sixteen. My
(31:35):
dad got me into the gym and I started putting
on more size and then I just you know, rugby
for me was a great sport as well because I
love that, like that that physical aspect of stuff. I've
always been a big fan of physical sports, like getting
involved in there and hitting and you know, and driving
through and doing what you can. That's that's if you
watch me in the WWE ring. I'm definitely the most
physical w superstar in the ring. There's nobody who can
(31:56):
touch me with that. And I know when some of
the guys ive seen what their name be said mine
on that, like on that lineup for whether it's raw
or SmackDown Raw. Now obviously on Netflix where I'm on,
they're there. They know they're they're up for a scrap.
They know they better get there, get their body ready
because it's going to be physical regardless. But yeah, NFL,
if I grew up in this country, I'm pretty sure
(32:18):
I would have been like wearing pads and a helmet.
When I was playing rugby, I was. I was a
lot lower. I was like one ninety one ninety five,
but I was supposed to play blindside stuff. The packer
was pretty fast, but I also I could also hit
pretty good as well. I could hit fast and get
up pretty quickly. So yeah, I definitely think if in
another another leading parallel the universe, whatever you call another lifetime,
(32:38):
if I've grown up here in America at the time,
I definitely would have been trying my hand at football.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
So one much. How much are you going in the
ring yet now?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Now I'm aut two fifty five to sixty, so yeah,
I mean when I was younger, it was really hard
to keep wait on, like I'm not gonna lie. I
would eat everything and I would I couldn't keep it on.
But I was in the gym all the time. I
was like, I love the gym, lifting whit six days
a week. I'd cycle everywhere as well, because like I
don't know, if you ever think about moving to Ireland,
car insurance is really expensive in Ireland, as his petrol,
(33:11):
as his gas are as our cars, like it's it's
not a country that it's designed to make you not
want to drive a car. But I used to cycle everywhere.
I loved it. I'd cycle like work, It's like ten
miles every morning out the swords and then cycle ten
miles back like I love the bike. Loved being very active.
So it was really hard for me to I couldn't
eat enough food to keep keep weight down or get
(33:33):
over one ninety five. But now in America, like obviously
you know now to two fifty five around now I'm happy,
happy that way, but so that would probably be a
different position for me.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Jets International Imprint got the marketing rights over the UK. Yeah,
played in Tottenham as a visitor last year against the Vikings.
This year going to be the host team against the Broncos,
going right back. But also I have marketing rights in Ireland. Yeah,
can you speak about football's popularity over there and maybe
(34:03):
the Jets growing in Ireland.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, it's definitely grown. The first I knew about the
first really because I've been here any eighteen years, so something.
I don'tlready have my ear to the ground as much
back home as it used to because I was again
the travel schedule is so crazy. But my sister was
like talking about going to NFL parties. There's a there's
a bar in Dublin called Davits and every Sunday night,
because obviously they're five hours behind right Eastern time, they
(34:28):
show all the games. They show as many games they
can and the bar going into one two o'clock in
the morning, so all the early games, early games, afternoon
games will be shown at the bar. Yeah, So it's
it's grown really rapidly. And obviously the Jets look at
the Jets the colors man, green and way. That's that
there are colors, you know, So it's it's anonymous with
Ireland as well, the Jets colors. But yeah, we don't
(34:51):
really mention the UK thing that much in my hometown,
you know what I mean, there's a big rovery there
as well. We're not part of the UK fellow, We're
our own I know, our own, our own islands, which
we love. But yeah, but crow Park is a great
place as well, and I know he's a couple of
players went over there to check it out. And if
they tried to handle a bit of hurdling with the
limit the limit hurlers was it? Who was a Quincy?
(35:14):
Was it? Quincy? Played a bit of Hereland Partey he
picked up pretty really quickly.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Really, Yeah, would you like the Jets they have a
home game in Dublin.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
It'd be great. When when is that? It's not scheduled,
not just scheduled.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, yeah, I think Pittsburgh actually has a game over
there this.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Year, Pittsburgh and the Vikings. Right, Yeah, I just talked
to some of that, some of the earlier on the Rooneys. Somehow,
my my grandmother's made name is Rooney, so there's a
lot of Rooneyes in our family. But they think they're
going over for sure. And then I think there's also
there's a bunch of teams Titans as well. I think
if their have their foot in both in Ireland as well.
(35:47):
Who else is over there? I'm not sure. Yeah in
Germany too, right Jeremy, Oh yeah, where the other countries
as well? Jeremany.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Well, there's going to be a game in Australia.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
They're talking about moving a game into the Midie Asia.
It continues to expand international record in terms of games
this year.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
So I just think that's that's the way forward man.
You know, like I really do. To expand the game,
you have to bring the game into different countries. And
it's you can see like if there's no market, there
wouldn't the wouldn't be any games. Now remember the Brazil
game last year that was crazy. But yeah, it's just
it's just growing globally and more and more people have
access to it now. It's it's especially in Dublin and
the UK or Ireland and the UK they're they're they're
(36:29):
available on all the channels over there. There's so many
sports channels, so it's just growing and growing and growing.
I think it's fantastic for the sport competition in any
sport is phenomenal, that's what you want.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
How encourage are you by flag football too, because we're
seeing that expand over there as well.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
With the women, right yeah, yeah, my my best one
of my best mates over there, Patty Mole's wife Trish,
plays a lot of rugby, so you've got a lot
of great like you got to poach a lot of
great female rugby players as well and stick them, stick them,
stick them on a field some flag flag football. That'd
be great. This this, this, there's not one bit of
shortage of people who would be who would love to
(37:07):
get involved and start playing the game.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
You mentioned Kittle before, Yeah, how long have you had
a relationship with him?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I don't already have a relationship with him, Like I've
seen him. He's come to a couple of w shows,
he came to my manium, he's there. I remember him
and his wife Claire were Claire Kittle and George. They
were standing beside my wife at Mania in LA when
I had that three way with with Gunter and Drew,
and then I met him. I think I met him
once at the WB show and then obviously I met
him at Tight in the University thing. I went with
(37:34):
Bailey and Grayson Waller and it was good crack. But yeah,
he's a huge w fan. There's a lot of players
who are in the NFL who are WWE fans.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
We we talked a little bit about this before, but
can you speak to your schedule coming up a little bit?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, where people are going.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
To be seeing Shanus.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Well, so you know every week is different Ros on
Netflix now, so I had a match. I've had two
matches now, two banger matches with with russef who just
came back, and then you know, we're going to see
where that goes. I'll be out raw Monday in Detroit.
Detroit Monday, I'll do a dark match at SmackDown, which
is a match after SmackDown ends next Friday at the
Prudential and then we'll back after summers time. Then we're
(38:13):
in the Barkleys in Brooklyn and then I think we
have a couple of shows coming up. I'm not sure
where we're going to end up, but we're going to
end up eventually, we're going to go to Europe. I
think we was showing Birmingham, then with a pl in Paris, Paris, France,
and then where I was going to Paris, Paris, Texas,
(38:34):
not Paris, Texas, Paris, France. There Sunday Monday, and then
we're back in again and there's there's another show come
from Australia, so we'll be in Australia, We're going to
go to Europe, We're going to be all over the States.
Obviously there's a show. I think there's a show this
weekend in Mexico for some of the guys. I'm not
on that, but my schedule definitely has reduced quite a
bit as well. Sixteen years to come, eighteen years with
the company, six years on the road, so I have
(38:56):
kind of I am in a position I'm doing a few,
like less shows than normally have done over my over
my sixteen year career. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
We got a young cornerback who's a star, Sauce Gardner.
He just signed a multi year extension. He's one of
the top.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I think I saw him man number five number Onember.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
You saw Gara Wilson, who signed a long term extension.
I asked him about legacy the other day. He said,
I want to be one of the best ever, but
I want to do that and establish relationships along the way. Meaningful,
lasting relationships.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
That just speaks to.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
His maturity at twenty four years old. He's not going
to turn twenty five, I think until August. With that
being said, what do you want your wrestling legacy to be?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I mean, obviously one of the biggest things for me
was to become the first ever Ultimate Grown Stim Champion
WB Ultimate Ground and that the Icy Todder is the
one thing I haven't won that was I'm have part
of this, but as a performer as well, separate from
like accolades and stuff. Personally, I just want to be
(40:07):
a member for for the guy that put on the
most hard hitting, grueling matches, exciting matches in w B history.
Like I know it's hard to say, like you know,
having the best matches all the time, you know, but
I just for me, it's like the physical I want
to be known. I've known for my physicality. I want
that to be known. I want to know that, like
(40:28):
if you have every Shamous match was was a banger,
Every Shamous match was was physical, was grueling, that there
was like that that that I gave everything you know,
that was passionate and that was and that people paid
attention like they talked about their matches, but they're like,
oh it does whatever. Bet, those are their matches. But
this matches, it's going to be real, you know. I
(40:51):
it's hard for me to put into into words like
to say that because I've never really thought about that
and I'm that perspective. But uh, I just want to
be known for someone who went out there and gave
everything you possibly had, never phoned it in, never took
a short cut, always just words herded the sleeve, and
I always put on gave everything you possibly could in
(41:12):
every match you could, because that's that's what I do.
I'm in the mindset where I can't go out there
and just just do the bare minimum. I can't go
out there and just half ass. If I'm out there,
I have to leave everything in that ring because that's
just who I am. Anything else, I feel like I'm
cheating the fans and I'm not doing it justice to
(41:35):
myself and the reputation that I've built.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Well, the great thing is you still got a ways
to go.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, I brought the mood down there. Yeah,
I just have a bit four more.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
By the way, you look great in Green. I tell
you that every time I see it. You know you
can't do a Jets game. Last year we had you
on the pregame.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
We did. Yeah it's green short right, green shure green tie. Yeah, no,
absolutely it greens, greens and easy color for me, mate,
it's an art. The whole Ireland like is green. Uh
it's it's basically said, it's it's their primary color.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
We're gonna make the Jets Ireland's team.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'll tell you mate. There's there's a great opening there.
There's there's a competition a couple of teams, but I
think that you guys already got the colors. Between you
guys and the Titans. I think Titans of the Dublin
colors and you guys of the Irish colors. So there's
and as I said, like, you know, you guys show
Ireland that you got you know, you mean business. Any
(42:32):
team that does, like just go in there going, you know,
we're proud to be here. Irish people back. I think
Irish people have to be the most loyal people I
feel in the world, Like you you give everything you
can to Dublin, to Ireland, that they'll give it right back.
There's a were we are loyal to a fault fella
I'm really mean that, like we really are. Like there's
(42:53):
there's just so much there's so much passion, you know,
like if in that country, and it's especially for sports.
We're just such a passionate, proud, proud country. We've been
through a lot over the years, you know what I mean,
We've as a country, as as people, we've been through
a lot over the last like a couple of hundred years,
you know what I mean. But we still find something
(43:14):
small about we still find things to celebrate, and I
think that's that's the beauty of of who we are.
We know who we are. That's the thing we're not.
We're not. We don't try and we're not trying to
pretend to be something else. We're not trying to figure
it out. We already figure it out. So that's why
when people come to Ireland and they go to Dublin,
and I.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Think New Yorkers can relate with that guy Yea, the
Celtic Warrior workouts.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
What's in here?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
How much you enjoying that? And also what's ahead?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, listen, doctor Child gave me a new lease of life.
When I first started that, I had no idea where
I was going to go. I was resting tacking with
Cesarro who's now a different company, Claudia Castinoli, and there
was times when we weren't doing anything creatively. So and
I have a lot of energy. I need to be
doing something. I need to I need to have an outlet.
I need to have some sort of like creative outlet.
(44:05):
And I, you know, I started doing these different workouts
because it's stagnated, and I just started figuring out these
things because I was doing the same thing for so long.
I was getting bored, and I started doing other people's
workouts like this is great, this is this is very
excuse me, very interesting. So then I started recording them
and doing these small workouts, brought a handheld camera with
me everywhere. I got the social media guys to film it.
(44:26):
And it's just grown and grown and grown. And senior
responses of people who watch it, who were like started
working out because of it, because they started watching their
favorite wrestlers male, female, whatever, and they started going to
this fitness journey because the fitness thing can be very daunting.
It can be like people, it's where do you start,
you know, how do you go in going into a gym?
And all these people I try and weights around. There's
(44:47):
a lot of there can be a lot of egos
and gyms and it's very kind of intimidating for somebody
you to go in there. So just gave them an outlet,
and I kind of every episode I show show a
very kind of like what's the word I'm looking for here?
Like a side of myself, that vulnerable side of myself,
you know what I mean? So because you know, I
(45:08):
want to listen to let people know that, like, even
though we have trained for so long, I still struggle
with these workouts. And it's just grown and grown and grown.
And the talent the rest of us who have given
their time to me to make this happen. They're unbelievable.
It wouldn't ever happen without them because they give up
their time. They share their story. It's all about their
stories too. It's not just about the workouts. It's about
(45:28):
that person's story, how they've like, what they've overcome, difficulty
you have training, how to change your training stall with
different injuries or different you know as you get older,
and what they did before, and all these things are
relatable to people watching. It's all about having fun in
the workout. It's all about having the crack, asking questions,
you know, just just enjoying it. And then that energy
(45:49):
I think transfers to people watching. And I think it's
almost at one point two million now, which is incredible.
Jet I think at jets work would be fantastic. I
want to I want to start moving to that realm now.
I think jelly Roll just tell me he wants to
get on there. He's on a massive weight loss journey.
I just, uh, you know, I'm really starting to push
outside of WBNW for like, like different things like jets
(46:12):
would be amazing, you know, to do like an they're like,
you know, different sports and different like personalities. The more
more that I get that's outside of the realm and
WB the better. It just keeps growing and growing and
growing because eventually gonna run out of rut of arrestors.
So that right. But yeah, it's it's it's been, dude.
It's unbelievable. I know, idea when I took that video
(46:33):
camera for the first time, a fartus would go, got
me go plaque. And now we're now we're marching towards
two million, too million subscribers, which is that's too many
in subscribers. That's not even the views that people watch it.
I means, like over over almost one point too million
people have actually subscribe. I hit the subscribe button and
watch those episodes every week. It's it's insane.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
That is insane, all right, So we're rooting for you
to get that Grand Slam. Keep on pushing. Hopefully you're
going to be out to jet game in the near future. Yeah,
and also I'd like to share Guinness with you at
some point, dude.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I got some good Guinness spots here in the city.
There's the Long Haul is a great spot lost Patty's good.
There's an Irish exit down a Penn station. If we
go wing to Jersey, you're looking at the Hunton, which
is in Jersey City. Then you've also got like one
of my favorites, which is, oh my god, I forgot
that what was the bar Bulligan's Jaysus brain fart. Sorry,
(47:27):
Mulligan's Bars actually owned by a lad called that Alan
who grew up basically five minutes from my house down
the road. I want to tell you a really good
story out here as well. Right, this is the funny
thing about the world being small. So we got I
got married We got married rock top of Rockefeller Plaza
right October two years ago, gone three years ago. Sorry,
(47:48):
October three years ago. This October three years ago. Holp me,
wife's not listening to this. But so anyway, we had
had there and we booked a place called the Hudson Hounds,
which unfortunately is not there anymore in Jersey. Said, we
went there for the afters, so you know, got the
Tabora and good Guinness, the whole thing. Turns out the
guy who who owned the bar grew up in the
(48:11):
house that my family owned. Now yeah, it's crazy, right yeah.
So basically he's like, oh, that was Quita own this bar.
You want to meet him? I said, yeah, let's come
meet him. So I went meta fella and we're talking
away and he's like, I grew up in Old Capra Road.
Where'd you grew up in Old Capra Road? I grew
up with this number. You go up with this number.
All of a sudden, like he's like he grew up.
He basically his family moved out and we moved in
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in nineteen eighty nine, and I was like, of all
the places on my wedding day in a bar in
in Jersey City.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
From Dublin.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Lived in the house I lived in in Dublin City.
Like it's just mental, man, Like it's just the way
things happen is crazy. But that like my dad I
told him. It brought my dad over. He was there.
His jaw literally hit the pit the ground, like of
all the places, you know what I mean. The owner
of the bar that we went to after my wedding
grew up in the house that we all and literally
moved out when we moved in in nineteen eighty nine.
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World's mad, dude, it's mad. There's son, there's a lot,
there's a lot, a lot of there's a lot of
like things that happen and just just you know, kind
of like make it kind of just I don't know,
raise your roy brows, you know. Small world. It's a
small world, man. It's smaller than we think it is.
We think it's a huge world, but it's not. It
is a very very small world. Great great Snia too.
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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how has your day out here at Jets camp?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
In awesome? Spirited practice? I spirited is the only word
you ever used for practice? Right, spirited practice? It was
really good to see justin Fields. That was kind of
a surprise. Get out there and throw the ball around
a little bit, really good and then had a good
talk with ag and can't ask for anything more.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You are a national correspondent. Where were you when you
heard about the news that Fields had gone off? Was
being looked at in the medical tent, was carted off
the field.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I was.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was home and doing what reporters do when they're
home and trying to find out what's going on right
on Twitter, right, and so I saw the first you know,
from your beat writers, like Justin Fields just pulled up.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Justin Fields is being looked at.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Justin Fields is going off on a cart, and I
was just like, oh my god. But then I'm sorry.
Very quickly it became clear. I thought, it became clear
that it was not a dire situation because they somebody noted,
I can't remember who that he was writing in the
front of the cart, and that's not usually what happens
when something very bad has happened. They're usually riding on
the back of the cart with the trainer. And then
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fortunately we got the news. But for that first hour
or however much time that lap, it's like I was
getting texts from friends who were Jets fans.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Were like, what you know, what happened? And who's the
backup quarterback?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You know, people freaked out, as you well know, they
a lot of bad memories came flooding back.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It was the final team rep in the first period
on Thursday. So it's the second practice and we're basically
recapping the first four days of practice right now with you.
He throws an incomplete pass to Mason Tyler, great covers
by Quincy Williams, So the play looks rather innocent. Then
you see him head to the sideline where he's favorably
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the favoring the right leg limping, put him in the cart,
had out, get the medical evaluation, and then a couple of
hours later the team releases the following information that this
located toe. They're going to manage it day to day.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Not bad.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, so here's Saturday, it comes, number seven is on
the field. Yeah, speaking of number seven, seven on seven,
Baldon touched the grounds.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I thought, first of all, I thought, even if before
we knew that he was actually going to be in
the seven on seven, like during the warm ups when
they were stretching and everything, like he was bouncing around
on the right like alternating feet bouncing, and I was like, well,
I mean, you know, he's putting weight on it. Obviously
he's moving fine, like he's moving without any he doesn't
look like he's favoring it. So that was encouraging just
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to see that that he was could do all of that.
And then you know he was thrown on the side
for a little bit and then he did the seven
on seven and that's great.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
We talked to Aaron Glenn after the practice and he said,
you know, they still want to bring him along slowly.
They do not want to overdo anything. Because I said, like, well,
does this mean he's going to be full go?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Now?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
When you got the day off front and then you
come back and you're in pads, is he full go?
And he's like, well, you know, we still want to
ease him back. They want to make sure when he's
out there, he's really ready to go like that, Why
why do anything that could aggravate an injury that doesn't
need to be aggravated.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You're still weeks and weeks and weeks away.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You want him to be Okay, we're in July, and
I still think we're in July, right. It come Monday, right,
So he's two days practice into here, and what we're
talking about here is that he's already throwing at seven
and seven.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
He's I mean, I thought today was just such great news.
To see him there was just great. But I think
now AG said he feels fine. AG basically is holding
him back. I mean, he wants to be full go.
He feels like he could be full go. They are
holding him back. You know, there's no reason to not
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operate with an abundance of caution when it's July whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Today is twenty sixth.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
We've been watching Fields since he entered the NFL in
twenty twenty one. This is his third team in three years.
As far as the situation here with the Jets, what
do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I think it's probably the best situation he's going to
have been in. Look the situation last year and the
Steelers is good. The Steelers are a good team and
well coached, but Russell Wilson was also on the team,
and so you always knew that they knew from the
beginning they wanted Russell Wilson to be the starter. Like
Mike Tomlin was clear about that from training camp that
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he viewed Russell as the starter, and so you knew
that was always there. Even though Justin played well those
first however six weeks whatever it was, he was playing well.
They were playing conservatively, but there were fourn too, and
he was playing well, so you know, and then they
made the change because they wanted more aggression, which Russell
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could give them. So I thought, I thought that situation
was good for Justin Fields because he had really good
players around him. I think this situation is better because
you have the head coach wants you to be the
starting quarterback and has an awful lot of confidence that
he still has not gotten anywhere close to reaching his ceiling,
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like they think like there's all upside for him. They
love his style of leadership, like they just like the steadiness,
and so I think this is the best situation because
they have confidence in him and faith and they're fully
behind him, and any player would want that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Do you view him as an ascending player like the
Jets are saying that to your point on tap potential,
we see a lot here and if you look at
his numbers, passer rating, completion percentage, turnovers, everything's gotten better
each of his four seasons.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I do view him as an ascending player, and again
because I don't think he's been in the right situation
for him. Certainly not the right situation in Chicago when
he didn't have the caliber of player and coach around him, right,
he didn't have the appropriate coaching for and I thought
last year we did see glimpses of what he could be,
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that he could manage games well and you know, distribute
the ball and so now I think this is the
right setup for him. Again, he's got the confidence of
the coach and the players. I don't think we can
emphasize enough having Garrett Wilson a guy they're familiar with.
I'm not comparing them to Joe Burrow and Jim R.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Chase.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
But like pre existing chemistry goes a long way when
you're a new quarterback and you're dropping in, like there's
a learning curve, Well, there's not a learning curve. With
the most important receiver on the team, right the superstar
wide receiver. You already know where he likes the ball.
You already know what his timing is. That goes a
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long way and should give Justin a great deal of
comfort that Garrett is out there.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So in the spring, we talked about it in Palm
Beach at the league meetings. You were saying, hey, listen,
the time to extend, Yes, Saus Gardner, Garrett Wilson is now.
And in fact, the Jets come right back before training
camp and they lock in their young stars.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Your reaction great, and I'm glad they did it.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
First of all, it's the right time for the Jets
business side, because the price only is going up and
we have seen that. I don't want to name other teams,
but we have seen when teams wait to extend their
premier players, like the price only gets higher.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
It doesn't behoove the team to wait. That's for sure.
It's great for the player, good for them.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
So certainly, if you identify your young stars, you want
to lock them in as fast as you possibly can.
It's great for Garrett Wilson because.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
He has security.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
He knows last year was you know, sort of rocky,
up and down. It never seemed to really gel with Aaron.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Rodgers, even though he had more than one hundred.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Receptions right well, because he is a superior talent. I mean,
if you remember, some of those receptions were just insane.
I mean I just remember watching some of them.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
People like, haven't we.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
This awesome graphic our team produce this awesome graphic of
him and the extension and one hander again crazy Houston
in front of the nation.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I mean, they are both such good players.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
They're bed rock pieces of the team going forward. And
for a team that is turning the page and starting
a new era. First of all, you want to send
a signal to the locker room like we're going to
take care of our guys. Like, if you're one of
our guys and you're producing, we're going to take care
of you. We want you here. It's important to have
those guys in. It's also important to not have contract distractions.
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And I know people say, oh, no, we tune that out.
It's not really a distraction. It is a distract. It's
a distraction if nothing else for those individual players. And
we've seen that with other teams again where they let
contracts linger. The Bengals have had that a number of years.
It does distract the team. It distracts their teammates because
they get asked about it and they're thinking, like, are
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we going to have was Garrett Wilson coming in, Like
is there going to be a holdout?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
This just erased all of that. No hold outs.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You go in clean, all the business stuff is taken
care of, and now it's all ball.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
It's all ball now.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I really like how they've handled themselves, Darren Mougi and
Aaron Glennon, because not only they lock up Sauce and Garrett,
but they got Jamie Sherwood back at the onset of
free agency. So they're looking at these young guys and
say saying, these are talented players and yes, maybe a
previous regime brought them there.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But we're going to keep them.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, we're going to keep them. We're going to keep
them in house, and they're going to grow with us,
and they're going to be foundational pieces.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
By the way, Well, I thought it was really important.
First of all, they've obviously gotten much younger, which I
think is important anyway, Right, that is the way to
go in the NFL. And I think to their credit,
as you said, these were pieces that were chosen by
the previous regime, To their credit, they recognized the talent
there and.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
They said, like, we want these guys to be part
of the foundation.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
This is a I don't want to say it's a
rebuilding team, but it is still a building team and
you want those pieces there. And again you want it
taking care of releasa that you don't have to think
about it anymore.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
They can just playball.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
There's only a handful of players over thirty on this
roster and coach Gloan addressed the media this week and
he was asked about AVT Elijah Vera Tucker and he
said he we look at this guy as a great
football player, we want him here for the long term
as well. So interesting financial situations on every team, on
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every roster, so because you got guys like Avt. Brece
Hall just talked to the media today and he said,
I look at this is my last chance. Like so
that's his mindset entering the season. As far as practice
is concerned today, what do you think about that one
on one?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I loved that.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I asked Ag about that till he's at the stage.
So we were I don't know how many minutes into
practice there, but you know, the pads are not on yet, right,
they're not tackling to the ground that kind of thing,
and they well the stage set like the team has
sort of gathered around in a semi circle, and they
basically put like a one on one, right, like a
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running back versus the linebacker. And the premiere one, of course,
was Garrett Wilson versus Sauce Gardner and just have them
go at it and see can you get now? They
were not tackling to the ground, but could you tackle?
And the crowd the defense went nuts when Sauce tackled
Garrett Wilson right out in space, out by the boundary.
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I mean, the defense whoa, you know, and Chase Sauce
down so highly competitive, very high energy, and I think
you can see the team coming together, right. And I
asked ag about that driller. He loves that drill.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
He said Detroit did it in Detroit. That's where he
got it from.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But he said, like he's right, this is a game
played in space, Like you have to be able to
tackle in space. They're going to tackle in training camp,
they're going to tackle to the ground. You have to
be able to do this. And you got to see
it in camp. You've got to You've got to do it.
They've got to learn how to do it. He is
all about competition and testing players, stressing players, seeing how
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they react and getting them used to stress and handling it.
Keep saying like this was the third day of practice,
the fourth day of practice, and tomorrow is.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
The day off.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
And he said this is like his favorite day because
players are tired, you know, the families are there. This
is a day where maybe get a little distracted, you
sort of tail off.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And he's, yeah, you know, and off days coming up.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Not interested in tailing off at all. He wants full
go and so he wants to stress players in that
and he wants them to react, and he wants them
to know how to react.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I love practice like a practice was high energy.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
All right.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
So you are one of two people who are out
there on the field today who actually cover the Jets
when Bill Parcells is here cover the Jets when Aaron
Glenn was a player as well. So when you're watching
this and you're taking this all in, do you have
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flashbacks and do you see similarities in Glenn not only
on the field but when you're speaking to him after practice?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Oh yeah, no question, no question.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
When he admonished the media yesterday over like you know,
everybody freaking out over the justin fields injury before we
knew it was serious.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I like the way he handled that because he also
told him listen, I'm going to tell you and tell
you the truth.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, I'm going to be ask you yea, I will
tell you.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm not going to start around it.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Let me find out.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Let's go through the medical evaluation. I'll tell you exactly
what's up.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
But I thought when he admonished the media, I was.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Like, wow, I mean it's like Bill is standing next
to him saying in his ear what to say.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, practice looked a lot like a I don't want
to say it look like a Bill Parcel's, but it
had that same sort of intensity and physicality which you
don't see in the NFL all the time anymore, like
a lot of coaches have because you're so afraid of injuries.
Like they pulled back from that, you know, intense, the
physical kind of practice, and this was a little bit
more old school. He's in everything like, he's just all
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over the place, an all ball like he just wants
to talk about football, like he does not want to.
He doesn't care about all the other stuff. He's football
and that's obviously very parcelly.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And he's got a ton of energy, kind of energy.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
He looks like he could still play. Let's be clear,
he looks like he could still.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
That's how we start a camp that he said that
he got up at three thirty in the morning. He
receives a text from his wife, but she must have
known that he's going to get up early here and
she said, just be ag. Yeah, he doesn't know how
to be anyone else. And what we said on the sideline,
my opinion is he is the right guy at the
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right time, and it means so much to him today
after practice practice. I said, it's well documented in your
history here, but what's it been like now first we
practice and having a fanc here And he was clearly
emotional and he he said, hang with us, hold on
to the role, right.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
He I asked him about you know, he started camp
by saying like he knows the pain of Jets fans
and how it's been tough and he wants to be
part of taking that pain away. And I asked him,
I said, that's a very personal kind of thing for
a coach to say, Like.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Where did that come from?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And he said, well, it is personal, like this is
the team that gave me my chance in the NFL,
and now it's the team that's given me a chance
to be a head coach. Like it's very personal life,
Like the team was not good when they drafted him
nineteen ninety four, right, and then they got really good. Right,
Parcels turned the ship around, and he said, like he
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remembers that feeling, like how great it was, like the excitement,
how fans, how people were and he was talking about
there's nothing better than winning in New York, right, Like
it is when you win in New York, like the
world is yours, and he said he wants fans to
have that again. He wants to play to feel that
they have not been able to feel that feeling. He
wants the organization to have it again. You know, he's
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he's obviously very grateful that he you know, that he's
going to be the head coach here and that this
is the team that gave him a chance to be
a head coach. It means a lot to him that
it was his team. But I was just struck by
how much it means to him personally.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yes, so personal It's got to strike a chord with
every Jet.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Fans, right Like.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
You can say how much maybe you've been suffering, he
can come back to you and say, yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
He knows. He's lived it. He's lived it, right.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
He lived through tough days when he first got to
the Jets, when things were not great, and then lived
through great stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He also made it clear that he's paid attention to
what was happening here. Yeah, along right, my heart is
with you all long right there.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So I've said this a few times, like there have
been a few things that he has said since he
got the job that I thought. I've texted people here
like man like Jets fans are going to like walk
through fire for him. He is so attached emotionally to
the team. He knows what the team's gone through. He
knows about the struggles and the high times and the
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low times, and like he really wants to be a part.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
It means something to him to be a part of.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Them, and he understands big picture. He said, yeah, we're
we want to win the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt obviously, right, but.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
We're going to take a one day mentality each day.
He embraces the work part of it.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
He does.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I asked him about the intensity of practice today and
I said, I assume that's all intentional, right, like you're
ramping up this competition. Because we also talked to Mason
Taylor after practice and he said, you know, Ag himself
is so competitive, and like the team draws from that, right,
like you are very competitive because you see him being
so competitive. And he said, of course that's intentional, like
everything we do is intentional, which I again, you could
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practically hear Bill Parcel say that, right, like everything is
part of the plan.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Elijah Vera Tucker said it. He's all about physicality and accountability.
Those two things he's going to stress.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Listen, officials are in practice like great, and and then
he said, like, listen, we were the most you know,
penalties team last year. That can't that cannot continue. That's accountability, right, Like,
here are the officials. Stop stop getting pre snap penalties.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
All right, listen.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I know you're you got plenty of stops here on
your training camp doors. You're going to the Giants here tomorrow.
But you talked to Mason Tayler. You said in our mambo,
uh to Jets rookies drafted in the second round in
the first round, respectively. Your thoughts on those guys and
maybe watching them and then talking to them after practice.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
There's so this is probably not something a football player
once said about them. But they're like they're so sweet
and young, right, Like they're they're just so nice. I
think they are fired up by Aaron Glenn. Like they
love the intensity of practice. You know, it's their first
training camp, I'm sure. I mean, you know, Mason Taylor
comes from a football family, so he probably has been
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told what training camp is like, but like it's all
new to them.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
So I think they love that.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
They love justin fields, they praised him for his leadership
and how he'll bring the offense together and how steady
he is.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I like them. They're gonna be big pieces.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I mean, yes, I would expect unless something goes hey wire,
I would expect that they will have significant roles as rookies.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, Mambo's getting great work in each day. One of
the stars for me early in camp. I know people
are not going to be sleeping on him anymore because
one McDonald hits out af Sex last year. But you
got McDonald going against Membo each day and that's only
going to make Membo better. And Taylor has really impressed
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me because yes, we knew he had the catching chops,
the receiving chops, but Glenn has pointed out that he's
getting after you as far as blocking.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That's concerned.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So the emphasis with the Jets running a football, But
Mason Taylor is going to catch a lot of balls
in this offense.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yes, which is always right.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
A tight end is always a quarterback's best friend, right,
is such a great safety net for quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, And we've never seen a guy like Fields here
at the quarterback position as far as that skill set,
the dual threat.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
No, I'm excited to see that when he's healthy. I'm
very excited to see how they use that because you're right,
we've never had that here at the Jets, right, we
haven't had that sort of real running threat.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Right, any other storylines that No, I'm just I'm just
very curious to see how the season progresses because it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
The AFC is very hard.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I know we're so isolated here and that's what happens
with me. You're jumping around. I'm here every day and
I'm like, man, this is a talented team.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
This team is.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Gonna it does have it does have talent, but i mean, man,
there's the AFC is top heavy. But I'm interested to see,
Like I feel like Aaron, Glenn and Darren would you
have a plan and have very deliberate steps that they
want to get to along the way, and so I'm
curious to see how that progresses.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Great seeing you, and I know your plan is to
get back to the city exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
We'll see what the shore traffic is like on the way.
But yeah, great to see you.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
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what brings you out here to Jets camp?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Well, we're in summer slim season. We're obviously at MetLife
next week, and of course we're here in Jersey down
the road, uh, the hometown and my wife born and raised,
So we came out here to talk to players here
there opening opening practice and I'm just having the crack, mat.
I'm just having a good time. You're always having a
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good time. Yeah, I just enjoy it, enjoy The fun
part to me at this stage of my career is
like I love, I love getting to meet you people,
get to come to awesome, awesome events and awesome things
like today the practice. So yeah, I just want to enjoy, enjoy,
enjoying my days. All right.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You talked to a few of our players after the practice,
including tight end Zach Koontz, left guard John Simpson. You
talked to another tit and Jeremy Rucker. I know Olu
fash knew the big left tackle he came by as well.
Quincy Williams was out, So what were you talking to
those guys about?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Just generally how's everyone doing. I actually Rooker and Zach
I met them at the tight End University, the deal
in Nashville, the Kittler puts on every year. It was
great events. So obviously we all bonded and had the
crack at that event about a month ago, so it
was good to just catch up with them again. They've
(24:12):
got great players in this team and a lot of
great individuals, great kids in this team, and just watching
them out in the field there, everyone's super passionate. Everyone's
super hyped and really excited for the new Season's that's
what you want to see from your team. And all
those guys are They're great. You know, it's funny. I
think I was saying the d earlier on Who's awesome.
By the way, she's behind the camera, she make sure
(24:33):
you know I was taken care of today. But just
like the fact that you know, I'm getting older every
year and then the players are getting younger. I just
see a bunch of kids out there just you know,
basically bright eyed, bushy tail and ready to like just
live in their dream playing in the NFL and playing
for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
What's your reaction though, when professional athletes are running up
to talk to you, because it's not like that for
every person who's going to interview these guys after to practice.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Oh, it's cool, Like it's really cool. You know. I
kind of noticed that when I went to that ty
End University thing that that's phenomenal. It's a phenomenal event,
by the way, and bringing all those guys together, Kittle's
done a great job. And Kittle and his wife done
a great job as well do putting that together, the Kittles,
I should say, but they were great. I was funny
(25:21):
when I was kinda where I got the first taste.
But because like there, I was ten years old, saw
would beat John Cena and and I was this and that,
and I'm like, man, these are any kids, dude, you
know what I mean? Like these are just these are
just kids watching me when I debut. So it's it's cool.
I was very unexpected for me, to be honest, to
see that reaction, but you know it's I'm not gonna lie.
(25:42):
It makes me feel pretty special. But that like, I've
done a lot of cool things in my career, and
as kids, they watched it, So them coming up and
talking to me and chatting away, talking about stuff that
I've forgotten ever happened in my career is very very cool.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
You talk about these guys as kids. Yeah, you are
a couple decades older than I'm older than you. But
how do you feel because you're still out there performing?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, you know. I was having a conversation one of
my best mates back home on Arland last night. I
was just saying, like, you know, sometimes I feel like
when you're in a whatever career in whether it's NFL,
whether it's w w A, you know, there's a road
to get there, in the journey to get there, and
people don't fans don't see that. You know, there's a
(26:28):
lot of sacrifice that has to be made, a lot
of hard works getting up when you don't want to
get up and go training when all your friends are
out having fun, you know, whether whether it's crap lash
and rain outside or the snow, and you still have
to get to practice, and you still have to work out,
and you still have to study, study the business you
want to be in, the sports you want to be in.
You know, for me, I've never forgotten that journey and yeah,
(26:51):
I've had a lot of success, but I still feel
I'm as passionate now that I've ever been. I have
never lost that passion. Probably in some ways I'm more
passionate now than I was when I've first started. Why
is that, you know, I don't know. I still feel
my my type of mentality is I just feel like
I always have something to prove, Like I always feel
like I've got to prove something to myself and to
the fans. Like people kind of maybe don't remember, but
(27:13):
the first part of my career, people hated me. There
was there's a lot of stuff that went around, like
trying to undermine my own success and my own hard work,
whether it was politics. There was more of a politician,
which I really wasn't, and that like I took easier
routes into to become W champion, Like when I when
I first when I was when my first W title,
I had no idea what was going to happen until
(27:34):
two hours before the show. Really, yeah, you know, you know,
I just this has always been it was always my
dream to do this. So the first part of it
I think was marble. The fact that, like you know,
I was undeserving of what I got, no matter how
hard I worked now, no matter how much sweat and blood,
I left, our tears, whatever you want to call it,
I left in the ring every night. And then you know,
(27:55):
on the second half there is that. But then I
knew other end of it. I haven't been a successful
title wise, or I haven't, you know, the first part
was very much like I've won everything except for the
Icy title, which is still the title I have not one,
and I still have it's on my book a list
to when it's very high on that priority list. But
(28:15):
I just feel like I was very successful first part
of my career, and then the second part, you know,
I feel like while the people are just seeing, like,
you know, appreciating the work I put in and trying
to elevate the younger talent and trying to bring people
up and give the audience a banger match that they
haven't seen on the show, and just you know, leave
it out there. And I think people kind of at
(28:37):
this stage appreciate that I go out there in my
heart in my sleeve and I don't leave anything. I
leave everything in the ring. You know.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Can you speak about the relatability factor that you have
with these guys that you said, hey, maybe some of
these guys are kids, but everybody has their own journey
and like you said, you to take so many steps
to climb up that ladder. And much like these guys
are out there on the professional field and the Jets
(29:05):
are trying collectively to go to another level that they
haven't been frankly in a long time.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, look I get it, you know. Like again it's
this just like the Jets are huge franchise, Like you
have a lot of a lot of teams in the NFL,
but like I knew the Jets in Ireland, you know,
I was well aware the Jets, the Bears, the Giants,
the Dolphins, like that, there's the Cowboys, you know, and Eagles.
(29:33):
They're they're in that group of like of core NFL teams.
And like I'm well aware who the Jets were before
even like came over here and started really getting into
watching American football. And look, look those lads are today today.
It's nearly one hundred degrees temperature, right, there's people sitting
in the stands watching them. Obviously, the first open practice,
the first what's the official term again, that's.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Open first first, Yeah, first open, first open public practice.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
So they're out there, they're wearing helme, they're wearing they're
wearing pads. They're like they're that it's like crazy heat
out there, and they're they're out there given everything they
possibly can. I know, I know fans expect a lot
because people think about like, well, these kids are coming
and these NFL players come in on huge salaries, and
I know, like sometimes like oh, he's making all this money,
in this money, But like at the same time, you know,
(30:20):
like it's easy for some of us who aren't on
that field and aren't putting in that practice to to
you know, sit in the couch and judge and say, well,
you should be doing better and should that. Like what
happens on that on that field is years and years
of hard work and sacrifice, and things happen in an
instant that can go wrong. It can go your way
or not go your way. But watching those guys today,
(30:40):
like they're all hungry, they all want to succeed. There's
nobody out on that on that on that field who's
just phoning it in or just wants to do the
bare minimum. They're all busting their arse. So as for
the Jets fans out there, who obviously, you know, have
seen a lot of disappointment over the years, like know
that those guys are doing everything they can to turn
that around.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
You know, do you ever wonder if you had the
opportunity to play ball back in the day because you
started out as a rugby player. I got to imagine
there weren't a lot of opportunities in Ireland growing up.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Played tagle football, no glass starr, They're fine. I don't
need the glasses, that's all right. Yeah, Look, I love
playing rugby. I didn't actually didn't even get into rugby
till later age. I played Gaelic football, which is our
national sport, hurling and football, and I you know, I
loved it. It's fast paced, it's great and the more.
And then I started lifting. I was in sixteen. My
(31:35):
dad got me into the gym and I started putting
on more size and then I just you know, rugby
for me was a great sport as well because I
love that, like that that physical aspect of stuff. I've
always been a big fan of physical sports, like getting
involved in there and hitting and you know, and driving
through and doing what you can. That's that's if you
watch me in the WWE ring. I'm definitely the most
physical w superstar in the ring. There's nobody who can
(31:56):
touch me with that. And I know when some of
the guys ive seen what their name be said mine
on that, like on that lineup for whether it's raw
or SmackDown Raw. Now obviously on Netflix where I'm on,
they're there. They know they're they're up for a scrap.
They know they better get there, get their body ready
because it's going to be physical regardless. But yeah, NFL,
if I grew up in this country, I'm pretty sure
(32:18):
I would have been like wearing pads and a helmet.
When I was playing rugby, I was. I was a
lot lower. I was like one ninety one ninety five,
but I was supposed to play blindside stuff. The packer
was pretty fast, but I also I could also hit
pretty good as well. I could hit fast and get
up pretty quickly. So yeah, I definitely think if in
another another leading parallel the universe, whatever you call another lifetime,
(32:38):
if I've grown up here in America at the time,
I definitely would have been trying my hand at football.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
So one much. How much are you going in the
ring yet now?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Now I'm aut two fifty five to sixty, so yeah,
I mean when I was younger, it was really hard
to keep wait on, like I'm not gonna lie. I
would eat everything and I would I couldn't keep it on.
But I was in the gym all the time. I
was like, I love the gym, lifting whit six days
a week. I'd cycle everywhere as well, because like I
don't know, if you ever think about moving to Ireland,
car insurance is really expensive in Ireland, as his petrol,
(33:11):
as his gas are as our cars, like it's it's
not a country that it's designed to make you not
want to drive a car. But I used to cycle everywhere.
I loved it. I'd cycle like work, It's like ten
miles every morning out the swords and then cycle ten
miles back like I love the bike. Loved being very active.
So it was really hard for me to I couldn't
eat enough food to keep keep weight down or get
(33:33):
over one ninety five. But now in America, like obviously
you know now to two fifty five around now I'm happy,
happy that way, but so that would probably be a
different position for me.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Jets International Imprint got the marketing rights over the UK. Yeah,
played in Tottenham as a visitor last year against the Vikings.
This year going to be the host team against the Broncos,
going right back. But also I have marketing rights in Ireland. Yeah,
can you speak about football's popularity over there and maybe
(34:03):
the Jets growing in Ireland.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, it's definitely grown. The first I knew about the
first really because I've been here any eighteen years, so something.
I don'tlready have my ear to the ground as much
back home as it used to because I was again
the travel schedule is so crazy. But my sister was
like talking about going to NFL parties. There's a there's
a bar in Dublin called Davits and every Sunday night,
because obviously they're five hours behind right Eastern time, they
(34:28):
show all the games. They show as many games they
can and the bar going into one two o'clock in
the morning, so all the early games, early games, afternoon
games will be shown at the bar. Yeah, So it's
it's grown really rapidly. And obviously the Jets look at
the Jets the colors man, green and way. That's that
there are colors, you know, So it's it's anonymous with
Ireland as well, the Jets colors. But yeah, we don't
(34:51):
really mention the UK thing that much in my hometown,
you know what I mean, there's a big rovery there
as well. We're not part of the UK fellow, We're
our own I know, our own, our own islands, which
we love. But yeah, but crow Park is a great
place as well, and I know he's a couple of
players went over there to check it out. And if
they tried to handle a bit of hurdling with the
limit the limit hurlers was it? Who was a Quincy?
(35:14):
Was it? Quincy? Played a bit of Hereland Partey he
picked up pretty really quickly.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Really, Yeah, would you like the Jets they have a
home game in Dublin.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
It'd be great. When when is that? It's not scheduled,
not just scheduled.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, yeah, I think Pittsburgh actually has a game over
there this.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Year, Pittsburgh and the Vikings. Right, Yeah, I just talked
to some of that, some of the earlier on the Rooneys. Somehow,
my my grandmother's made name is Rooney, so there's a
lot of Rooneyes in our family. But they think they're
going over for sure. And then I think there's also
there's a bunch of teams Titans as well. I think
if their have their foot in both in Ireland as well.
(35:47):
Who else is over there? I'm not sure. Yeah in
Germany too, right Jeremy, Oh yeah, where the other countries
as well? Jeremany.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Well, there's going to be a game in Australia.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
They're talking about moving a game into the Midie Asia.
It continues to expand international record in terms of games
this year.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
So I just think that's that's the way forward man.
You know, like I really do. To expand the game,
you have to bring the game into different countries. And
it's you can see like if there's no market, there
wouldn't the wouldn't be any games. Now remember the Brazil
game last year that was crazy. But yeah, it's just
it's just growing globally and more and more people have
access to it now. It's it's especially in Dublin and
the UK or Ireland and the UK they're they're they're
(36:29):
available on all the channels over there. There's so many
sports channels, so it's just growing and growing and growing.
I think it's fantastic for the sport competition in any
sport is phenomenal, that's what you want.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
How encourage are you by flag football too, because we're
seeing that expand over there as well.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
With the women, right yeah, yeah, my my best one
of my best mates over there, Patty Mole's wife Trish,
plays a lot of rugby, so you've got a lot
of great like you got to poach a lot of
great female rugby players as well and stick them, stick them,
stick them on a field some flag flag football. That'd
be great. This this, this, there's not one bit of
shortage of people who would be who would love to
(37:07):
get involved and start playing the game.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
You mentioned Kittle before, Yeah, how long have you had
a relationship with him?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I don't already have a relationship with him, Like I've
seen him. He's come to a couple of w shows,
he came to my manium, he's there. I remember him
and his wife Claire were Claire Kittle and George. They
were standing beside my wife at Mania in LA when
I had that three way with with Gunter and Drew,
and then I met him. I think I met him
once at the WB show and then obviously I met
him at Tight in the University thing. I went with
(37:34):
Bailey and Grayson Waller and it was good crack. But yeah,
he's a huge w fan. There's a lot of players
who are in the NFL who are WWE fans.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
We we talked a little bit about this before, but
can you speak to your schedule coming up a little bit?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, where people are going.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
To be seeing Shanus.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Well, so you know every week is different Ros on
Netflix now, so I had a match. I've had two
matches now, two banger matches with with russef who just
came back, and then you know, we're going to see
where that goes. I'll be out raw Monday in Detroit.
Detroit Monday, I'll do a dark match at SmackDown, which
is a match after SmackDown ends next Friday at the
Prudential and then we'll back after summers time. Then we're
(38:13):
in the Barkleys in Brooklyn and then I think we
have a couple of shows coming up. I'm not sure
where we're going to end up, but we're going to
end up eventually, we're going to go to Europe. I
think we was showing Birmingham, then with a pl in Paris, Paris, France,
and then where I was going to Paris, Paris, Texas,
(38:34):
not Paris, Texas, Paris, France. There Sunday Monday, and then
we're back in again and there's there's another show come
from Australia, so we'll be in Australia, We're going to
go to Europe, We're going to be all over the States.
Obviously there's a show. I think there's a show this
weekend in Mexico for some of the guys. I'm not
on that, but my schedule definitely has reduced quite a
bit as well. Sixteen years to come, eighteen years with
the company, six years on the road, so I have
(38:56):
kind of I am in a position I'm doing a few,
like less shows than normally have done over my over
my sixteen year career. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
We got a young cornerback who's a star, Sauce Gardner.
He just signed a multi year extension. He's one of
the top.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I think I saw him man number five number Onember.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
You saw Gara Wilson, who signed a long term extension.
I asked him about legacy the other day. He said,
I want to be one of the best ever, but
I want to do that and establish relationships along the way. Meaningful,
lasting relationships.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
That just speaks to.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
His maturity at twenty four years old. He's not going
to turn twenty five, I think until August. With that
being said, what do you want your wrestling legacy to be?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I mean, obviously one of the biggest things for me
was to become the first ever Ultimate Grown Stim Champion
WB Ultimate Ground and that the Icy Todder is the
one thing I haven't won that was I'm have part
of this, but as a performer as well, separate from
like accolades and stuff. Personally, I just want to be
(40:07):
a member for for the guy that put on the
most hard hitting, grueling matches, exciting matches in w B history.
Like I know it's hard to say, like you know,
having the best matches all the time, you know, but
I just for me, it's like the physical I want
to be known. I've known for my physicality. I want
that to be known. I want to know that, like
(40:28):
if you have every Shamous match was was a banger,
Every Shamous match was was physical, was grueling, that there
was like that that that I gave everything you know,
that was passionate and that was and that people paid
attention like they talked about their matches, but they're like,
oh it does whatever. Bet, those are their matches. But
this matches, it's going to be real, you know. I
(40:51):
it's hard for me to put into into words like
to say that because I've never really thought about that
and I'm that perspective. But uh, I just want to
be known for someone who went out there and gave
everything you possibly had, never phoned it in, never took
a short cut, always just words herded the sleeve, and
I always put on gave everything you possibly could in
(41:12):
every match you could, because that's that's what I do.
I'm in the mindset where I can't go out there
and just just do the bare minimum. I can't go
out there and just half ass. If I'm out there,
I have to leave everything in that ring because that's
just who I am. Anything else, I feel like I'm
cheating the fans and I'm not doing it justice to
(41:35):
myself and the reputation that I've built.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Well, the great thing is you still got a ways
to go.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, I brought the mood down there. Yeah,
I just have a bit four more.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
By the way, you look great in Green. I tell
you that every time I see it. You know you
can't do a Jets game. Last year we had you
on the pregame.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
We did. Yeah it's green short right, green shure green tie. Yeah, no,
absolutely it greens, greens and easy color for me, mate,
it's an art. The whole Ireland like is green. Uh
it's it's basically said, it's it's their primary color.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
We're gonna make the Jets Ireland's team.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'll tell you mate. There's there's a great opening there.
There's there's a competition a couple of teams, but I
think that you guys already got the colors. Between you
guys and the Titans. I think Titans of the Dublin
colors and you guys of the Irish colors. So there's
and as I said, like, you know, you guys show
Ireland that you got you know, you mean business. Any
(42:32):
team that does, like just go in there going, you know,
we're proud to be here. Irish people back. I think
Irish people have to be the most loyal people I
feel in the world, Like you you give everything you
can to Dublin, to Ireland, that they'll give it right back.
There's a were we are loyal to a fault fella
I'm really mean that, like we really are. Like there's
(42:53):
there's just so much there's so much passion, you know,
like if in that country, and it's especially for sports.
We're just such a passionate, proud, proud country. We've been
through a lot over the years, you know what I mean,
We've as a country, as as people, we've been through
a lot over the last like a couple of hundred years,
you know what I mean. But we still find something
(43:14):
small about we still find things to celebrate, and I
think that's that's the beauty of of who we are.
We know who we are. That's the thing we're not.
We're not. We don't try and we're not trying to
pretend to be something else. We're not trying to figure
it out. We already figure it out. So that's why
when people come to Ireland and they go to Dublin,
and I.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Think New Yorkers can relate with that guy Yea, the
Celtic Warrior workouts.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
What's in here?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
How much you enjoying that? And also what's ahead?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, listen, doctor Child gave me a new lease of life.
When I first started that, I had no idea where
I was going to go. I was resting tacking with
Cesarro who's now a different company, Claudia Castinoli, and there
was times when we weren't doing anything creatively. So and
I have a lot of energy. I need to be
doing something. I need to I need to have an outlet.
I need to have some sort of like creative outlet.
(44:05):
And I, you know, I started doing these different workouts
because it's stagnated, and I just started figuring out these
things because I was doing the same thing for so long.
I was getting bored, and I started doing other people's
workouts like this is great, this is this is very
excuse me, very interesting. So then I started recording them
and doing these small workouts, brought a handheld camera with
me everywhere. I got the social media guys to film it.
(44:26):
And it's just grown and grown and grown. And senior
responses of people who watch it, who were like started
working out because of it, because they started watching their
favorite wrestlers male, female, whatever, and they started going to
this fitness journey because the fitness thing can be very daunting.
It can be like people, it's where do you start,
you know, how do you go in going into a gym?
And all these people I try and weights around. There's
(44:47):
a lot of there can be a lot of egos
and gyms and it's very kind of intimidating for somebody
you to go in there. So just gave them an outlet,
and I kind of every episode I show show a
very kind of like what's the word I'm looking for here?
Like a side of myself, that vulnerable side of myself,
you know what I mean? So because you know, I
(45:08):
want to listen to let people know that, like, even
though we have trained for so long, I still struggle
with these workouts. And it's just grown and grown and grown.
And the talent the rest of us who have given
their time to me to make this happen. They're unbelievable.
It wouldn't ever happen without them because they give up
their time. They share their story. It's all about their
stories too. It's not just about the workouts. It's about
(45:28):
that person's story, how they've like, what they've overcome, difficulty
you have training, how to change your training stall with
different injuries or different you know as you get older,
and what they did before, and all these things are
relatable to people watching. It's all about having fun in
the workout. It's all about having the crack, asking questions,
you know, just just enjoying it. And then that energy
(45:49):
I think transfers to people watching. And I think it's
almost at one point two million now, which is incredible.
Jet I think at jets work would be fantastic. I
want to I want to start moving to that realm now.
I think jelly Roll just tell me he wants to
get on there. He's on a massive weight loss journey.
I just, uh, you know, I'm really starting to push
outside of WBNW for like, like different things like jets
(46:12):
would be amazing, you know, to do like an they're like,
you know, different sports and different like personalities. The more
more that I get that's outside of the realm and
WB the better. It just keeps growing and growing and
growing because eventually gonna run out of rut of arrestors.
So that right. But yeah, it's it's it's been, dude.
It's unbelievable. I know, idea when I took that video
(46:33):
camera for the first time, a fartus would go, got
me go plaque. And now we're now we're marching towards
two million, too million subscribers, which is that's too many
in subscribers. That's not even the views that people watch it.
I means, like over over almost one point too million
people have actually subscribe. I hit the subscribe button and
watch those episodes every week. It's it's insane.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
That is insane, all right, So we're rooting for you
to get that Grand Slam. Keep on pushing. Hopefully you're
going to be out to jet game in the near future. Yeah,
and also I'd like to share Guinness with you at
some point, dude.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I got some good Guinness spots here in the city.
There's the Long Haul is a great spot lost Patty's good.
There's an Irish exit down a Penn station. If we
go wing to Jersey, you're looking at the Hunton, which
is in Jersey City. Then you've also got like one
of my favorites, which is, oh my god, I forgot
that what was the bar Bulligan's Jaysus brain fart. Sorry,
(47:27):
Mulligan's Bars actually owned by a lad called that Alan
who grew up basically five minutes from my house down
the road. I want to tell you a really good
story out here as well. Right, this is the funny
thing about the world being small. So we got I
got married We got married rock top of Rockefeller Plaza
right October two years ago, gone three years ago. Sorry,
(47:48):
October three years ago. This October three years ago. Holp me,
wife's not listening to this. But so anyway, we had
had there and we booked a place called the Hudson Hounds,
which unfortunately is not there anymore in Jersey. Said, we
went there for the afters, so you know, got the
Tabora and good Guinness, the whole thing. Turns out the
guy who who owned the bar grew up in the
(48:11):
house that my family owned. Now yeah, it's crazy, right yeah.
So basically he's like, oh, that was Quita own this bar.
You want to meet him? I said, yeah, let's come
meet him. So I went meta fella and we're talking
away and he's like, I grew up in Old Capra Road.
Where'd you grew up in Old Capra Road? I grew
up with this number. You go up with this number.
All of a sudden, like he's like he grew up.
He basically his family moved out and we moved in
(48:32):
in nineteen eighty nine, and I was like, of all
the places on my wedding day in a bar in
in Jersey City.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
From Dublin.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Lived in the house I lived in in Dublin City.
Like it's just mental, man, Like it's just the way
things happen is crazy. But that like my dad I
told him. It brought my dad over. He was there.
His jaw literally hit the pit the ground, like of
all the places, you know what I mean. The owner
of the bar that we went to after my wedding
grew up in the house that we all and literally
moved out when we moved in in nineteen eighty nine.
(49:04):
World's mad, dude, it's mad. There's son, there's a lot,
there's a lot, a lot of there's a lot of
like things that happen and just just you know, kind
of like make it kind of just I don't know,
raise your roy brows, you know. Small world. It's a
small world, man. It's smaller than we think it is.
We think it's a huge world, but it's not. It
is a very very small world. Great great Snia too.
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