May 22, 2025 • 45 mins
Host Eric Allen is joined by the radio voice of the Jets, Bob Wischusen, for a discussion about the current state of the team as it begins OTA practices at 1 Jets Drive. Wischusen also talks about calling the NHL Playoffs on TV.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, what's up everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We've got a great pod today as we headed to
Memorial Day weekend. We're gonna talk Jets, broadcasting playoffs in
several sports with the Voice of the Jets, Bob was
shoosing OTAs of course, started here this week in Florence Park,
and we're also gonna dive into what happened at the
NFL lead meetings in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
We meet anybody in the world, and I think we're
gonna win. Next Sunday Gets Wonders. Can't wait. Put your
seat belts on and get ready for the ride.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Shows. Great to see you, buddy, Glad to be here. Hey,
what were your expectations.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Let's go in a time machine right now, back to
two thousand and two when you were applying to be
the guy, the voice of the Jets.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Oh well, there was some drama back then. You know
that not everybody knows about almost didn't get the job.
It was written in the paper that somebody else got
the job. But hung in there, and you know, I
mean I was just making my way, still trying to
kind of find a lane in New York that was mine, right,
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Like every job that I had had, I was kind
of backing up other people, filling in over here as
a jack of all trades at WFAN and then I
was at MSG. You know, anybody that missed for play
by play, any chance I had to do a game,
it was because I was filling in for someone on
their job. It wasn't my job. So this was the
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first time that and you know, credit very much back
then to Bob Parente, Terry Bradway, like those guys were
probably more than anyone the ones that pushed it across
the finish line on my behalf. They were the first
to offer me a job that was mine. Right, this
is your gig and you're gonna be identified with us.
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And I'm glad it worked out because I mean it's
thirty years now, right, My first year of covering the
team was ninety six. That's that's year two of co
Tite and now we're twenty twenty five, so all in,
that's thirty years of being around the Jets on basically
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a weekly basis all season, you know. So it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So that was a different role back then in two
thousand and two. What was the reaction, What was the
reaction from family and friends when you actually they saw
on the paper that somebody else was getting the job?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, you know what. I don't even know if any
of them noticed it, because it was like during It
was like a blurb in the back of the New
York Post. It wasn't something that like, I think it
was kind of put to bed and I was back
in the mix before anybody even realized it. I noticed it.
I saw it. I confronted it or I dealt with it.
But but yeah, it was it was interesting. I remember
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I was doing it was written in the back of
the New York Post that I was going to not
get the job, that someone else kind of very matter
of fact, we had been given the job, And ironically enough,
I saw that the exact same day I was going
out to Long Island to do an arena football game,
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a Dragons New York Dragons game on MSG and our
halftime guest. Ironically enough, that day was scheduled to be
Terry Bradway. So I wrote out there thinking that this
was going to be the most uncomfortable ten minute interview
ever because he was going to be there knowing I
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didn't get the job, and I was probably going to
be telling him that day or soon after that my
time with the Jets was done. Like, if someone else
gets the job, I'm going to go find something else
to do. I'm not going to just forever, going forward
be the backup guy to someone else and you know,
do the pre and post game show. It's I mean,
I've been the backup guy for three or four years now.
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If I don't get the job, I'm done. Well. He
comes into the booth and I said, you know, Terry,
how are you. You can't be happy to see me?
And he's like, what are you talking about? I said, well,
I didn't get the job. He goes, what are you
talking about? I said, it's in the paper. I didn't
get it. You gave it to someone else. And he
said not true. I said really, He said, I'm just
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telling you. I'm in all of those meetings right like,
I'm kind of high up the food chain at the Jets.
I'm the general manager. If you didn't get the job,
or if someone else did, I would know about it.
I was like, okay, I'm just telling you hang in there.
That decision has not been made yet, not true. And
if I hadn't seen him that day, I don't know
what my reaction would have been or how long it
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would have lingered. I just got really lucky that the
day that I saw what turned out not to be
true written in the paper, I was gonna basically have
the horse's mouth walk right into the booth and be
able to deal with it that afternoon. And he was great,
and he told me to hang in there, and eventually
in the end it all worked.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Out all right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Some play by play guys they grow up in Los Angeles,
they start calling games for maybe a professional team in Chicago,
or somebody grows up in Miami and to the play
by play guy for a team out.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
In San Francisco. But you are a local guy.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
How significant was it to you and is it to
you to this day that you are the Jets play
by play man.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, it matters to me to be identified with something
that people where you live care about. That that matters,
and not that all of the work that I don't
that I do for ESPN isn't great, and I aspire
to do bigger and better for them. Called one of
the you know, semi final or other quarterfinal games of
the college football Playoff this past year, regularly doing you know,
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acc big twelve sec games for them on Saturdays. Obviously,
my role with the NHL went all the way through
the second round of the playoffs and touched on like
five different playoffs series and had a chance to be
in all of those buildings and it's amazing. Even last
year had a chance to call a Rangers Conference final game,
which was a thrill. So all of the work that
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I do for ESPN to blast, but it matters to
me being a New York area guy. I mean, I
grew up basically a half hour outside of New York
City in New Jersey, and outside of the four years
that I spent in college and my first job out
of college for about two and a half years when
I was in Miami, the other you know, forty seven
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of the fifty three fifty now going on fifty four
years i've been alive, have all been here. This is
where I'm from, this is where my family's from, this
is where all you know, the majority of my friends are,
and so yeah, to be identified with something that is
ingrained into the New York sports scene matters to me.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
If I told you in O two that you were
going to be entering your twenty fourth season in twenty
twenty five, you have to be one of the longest
tenured play by play guys in the National Football League.
I don't have the list in front of me, but
what would you have said.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I don't know, that's a good question. I was just
thrilled to get the job, and then every year as
we went forward, I was just looking forward to the
next year. Then all of a sudden, season piled upon
season piled upon season, and you start to realize, jeez,
I've been doing this for fifteen years. Okay, great. I
still love hanging out with those guys. We have a
great group that we get to hang out with every Sunday.
You know them all. So it's always fun, no matter
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how rough the seasons are, no matter how much the
team is struggling, it's always fun to go to the
games and be at the games and call the games.
So I never really thought of it in terms of,
you know, the time going by, and I guess I mean,
none of the other networks ever put me to any
kind of a choice, like NBC, CBS, Fox. No one
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ever came to me and offered me any kind of
an NFL job. I don't know why they just no
one ever showed interest. So I was never really ever
put to any kind of a decision by anyone where
I would have to decide to give it up or
not continue with it. It's just always been a given
that every fall it's going to be time for another
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Jet season. And so, yeah, I guess I'm one of
the longest tenure I mean, certainly they're you know, Merril
Reese and Philly brad Sham and in Dallas. I know,
my buddy Dave Passion has been doing the Cardinals forever.
Like there's a handful of other guys out there that
are well into their twenties, if not their thirties. I mean,
Merrill might be doing the Eagles for a forty years now. Yeah,
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there are some guys that have, you know, become the
identifiable voice of their team for a long time. And
I think part of the reason that all of them
have lasted as long as they've lasted is because I
don't think they've ever thought of it in any other
terms than that that just looking forward to another season
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arriving and looking forward to having a chance to go
do the games again. And by the time, you know,
all those years pile up, you almost didn't notice because
it's been a fun ride along the way.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What's the approach painting the picture for Jets fans? Because
you are broadcasting on radio or streaming platforms as opposed
to broadcast where people are watching the game with you.
And also you have to take into account, and I
know you do, is that, Hey, there are some people
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still to this day who are going to listen to
you in turn their TV doubt.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, and I appreciate anyone that does that. Obviously, there's
the mechanics of it where you're I mean, even if
someone is syncing us up to the TV or maybe
we're on a streaming platform, I have to assume the
vast majority of people that are listening aren't looking at
the game. Right it is still radio, So you do
need to give people the geography of where the ball is,
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how much time is left, what's the score, who's on
the field, what's the formation. Television I don't have to
do any of that, right, All of that information is
on the screen, down in distance, how many timeouts, what's
the score? What quarter are we in time left in
that quarter? The clock I mean, right, Like, all of
that's on the screen. You can see where the ball is.
So a lot of times, you know, on TV, my
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lead up to a play can be something as simple
of and a huge third down and then I just
lay out and let the play snap and happen. Radio
you can't do that. I mean, obviously radio you are
giving everybody all of the nuts and bolts geography of
where it's at. But just in terms of how I
call the game, I am aware that ninety five percent
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of our audience I'm assuming are Jets fans that want
to know how are the Jets playing the stories about
their players? You know, like that there is that focus.
You're doing the game through that lens. I'm calling it
through a Jets lens. So you know, most of my
prep is on the Jets. You know, I do certainly
prep on the opposition, but you know, most Jet fans
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don't need all the nuts and bolts about the backup
tight end for the Atlanta Falcons, Like that's not their interest.
They want to know, you know, what the game plan
is for the Jets that week and how they're playing,
and so you know, am I a little bit more
enthusiastic when the Jets score a touchdown and the opposition?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Absolutely, I mean Jet fans are listening. I'm a Jet fan.
I want them to win. So clearly, you know, you're
a little more excited when when they're doing well and
they're winning. But also in New York, and I think
we take a particular pride in this as New Yorkers,
and this area is New Yorkers don't want to be
lied to, right, they don't want to be told that
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they're not seeing what they know they're seeing. So if
the team isn't playing well, we say the team's not
playing well, because like if it was you know, Oklahoma
Sooner football and your job is to wave the Pompoms
and every Saturday it's go Sooners, And on their actual
broadcasts they say, you know, we us, we need a
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big drive here, a big this's a big play for us. Now,
it's never with me. You will never hear that because
I don't play for the team. I don't coach. I
am documenting the Jet game, but for the Jets, you know,
so as much as I like to think of myself
kind of a part of the organization, I'm calling the
game with hopefully an honesty to it that a New
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Yorker will appreciate, because I think New Yorkers appreciate that
they don't want to be rooted for or lied to
and told what you know that the things are better
than then they know it to be.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
How do you make the adjustments appear seamless? You work
with Marty Lyons for twenty plus years. You guys have
a tremendous relationship. He still is an ambassador for their organization,
but loved dude. And then there's a transition to Anthony
beckt in you and ab right from day one, you know,
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to the listener, you guys sounded like you had been
working together for years.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I mean it's really mostly a testament to those two guys.
Then they both have made it. Marty for twenty three
years and Anthony for last year as well made it
so easy because you know, if you're on the air
for three and a half hours on a Sunday afternoon,
it's hard to kind of hide your personality completely. And
I think Jet fans that hear Marty and hear Anthony.
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Their vibe off of them as boy, those those sound
like two really good guys. Like they sound like really
nice dudes. And I will say about both of them,
they are both nicer than you think they are, so
in terms of like their professionalism and their ease of
being able to work with them, you know. I mean,
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if you can't work with Marty or Anthony, then you're
the problem, you know. So it Yeah, I don't really
even feel like there had to be an adjustment period.
Probably wouldn't have to be an adjustment period for anyone
in my seat. I bet if Dan Grossa jumped in
tomorrow and called a game instead of me with Anthony,
it would sound like those two have been together for
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fifteen years. That's just you know the personalities of those guys,
all right.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You've been connected to the Jets since nineteen ninety six,
like you articulated before, Aaron Glenn was drafted in the
first round nineteen ninety four. He's now the head coach
thirty one years later. What have your takeaways been in
the early going when you're not broadcasting from Winnipeg or
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NHL playoffs, As you hear some of the news come
out of one Jets drive. Mind you, we know the
Green and White have been moving in silence.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, I watched all the press conferences and listen to
everything he said like everyone else, I have yet to
have the chance because I've been on the road so
much to spend any time with him. I have no
idea if he'll have any memory of me. I mean,
I was a twenty six year old back up play
by play guy with a microphone in the locker room
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when he was But I think he left the Jets
either the year of or the year before I got
the job full time, So I was just one of
those guys in the locker room with a tape deck
over my shoulder and a microphone, part of the gaggle.
I don't know that he would remember me at all.
Maybe he will. I'm looking forward to getting to know
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him again. But everything that he said, I mean, you
were with all the press conferences, you've interviewed him. When
has he said one thing thing since being hired that
wasn't the thing that you or a Jet fan would
want to hear, right, Like, if this matters to him
being here, matters to him being asked to come back
to this where he was drafted into the league and
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basically played the majority of his career. You know, like
begin a family like that, that that's in his DNA
and it matters to him, and I think that, you know,
it really seems like he and Darren Mougi are very
much kind of the same mindset of how they want
to build a football team, and they're not into making headlines.
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They're really into foundationally putting a team together that hopefully
the guys that are already on the team that can
be stars, can benefit from that foundation being behind them shoes.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I thought this quote was particularly particularly impactful. He said
this during OTAs Ota started here for the Jets this
week and the media is allowed at practice on Wednesday.
He said, We're going to be selective at everything that
we do. I don't want this to be an outfit
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where everybody fits, and that's just what That's just the
way it is.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I mean, I you know, I wouldn't necessarily want to
draw this parallel out of bitterness and also out of
maybe not giving them their due respect. But like he's
got some Patriots background, Does that or does that not
sound like what they would kind of call the Patriot
way back right. This is not for everyone, and we
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want to find the guys that this is right for
and that we also know our right for this, and
that to me was one of the biggest things that
allowed the Patriots to constantly surround Tom Brady with the
right guys all those years to allow him to succeed
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and allow that French guys to succeed, and guys that
eventually almost come they wore out on them, Like some
guys eventually had to escape it because they were a
part of it for so long, but very rarely did
they experience that's kind of successful they went anywhere else
that Yeah, there has to be a buy in for
how you want to do it, and you got to
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find guys that are willing to buy in. And I'm
really encouraged that he's making no bones about it, like
he's he's kind of putting his cards out on the table. Look,
this is not going to be for everybody. The way
we're going to coach this, the guys we're going to
bring in, the way we want to play, how we're
going to build our team, what we're gonna ask you
to do. It's not for everybody, but those that it's for,
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we know it can succeed because that he does come
from places where there's been a lot of success.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Speaking of buy in the Jets exercise or fifth year options.
On three, twenty twenty two draft pick Sauce Garner, Garrett Wilson,
and Jermaine Johnson.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Wilson talked to media this week's shoes. He said, I'm
hopeful I'm a Jet for life. What was your take
on that?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
And I remember so many offseasons with the Jets, one
of the biggest headlines would be how much salary cap
the Jets have, right how much space they've got. They've
got fifty sixty seventy dollars of space to go out
and they can sign this, and they can sign that,
and they can go get the most expensive, you know,
kind of toy out on the market. And it's fun
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to talk about that in March and April heading towards
the draft and they're adding big names. But you know
who doesn't have a lot of cap space each year?
The Chiefs or the Packers haven't, or Baltimore or Pittsburgh
like those teams don't have a ton of space because
they've got good players on their team, and that's who
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they want to pay, And to me, that's the thing
that goes the furthest in the locker room. Then when
you see a team bring guys in, realize they are
their best players, and then give the salary cap space
that you have available to those guys. Right, they should
be paying Garrett Wilson, they should be paying Brisol, they
should be paying Jermaine Johnson, they should be paying these
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guys on the offensive line. Those are the guys that
you saw us. You want to keep those guys because
hopefully being here and resurrecting this matters to them as well.
That that's all part of that culture that I think
Aaron Glenn wants to build. So to me, it's a
good sign to not have cap space, and it's a
good sign when you're taking your available cap space and
giving it to the guys who are already on your
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team and have earned it and deserve it. So yeah,
happy to see that they're making that commitment to those
foundational guys.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
One hundred percent participation here and it's a voluntary This
is a voluntary phase of camp. So if guys aren't happy,
they don't have to be here. Mandatory mini camp is
not for a couple of weeks yet, but with this
new staff, they're buying in.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, and look, you know, certain guys, regardless of whether
it's kind of quote unquote voluntary or mandatory, they're gonna
be there, right like you call it mandatory or voluntary.
Mala Cock Corley's gonna be there because he's trying to
hold onto a spot on the team because they're drafting
wide receivers and like those guys, they're not gonna miss
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anything out of a fear of job security. But like,
is Sauce Gardner not going to be starting at corner
for the Jets on opening day or Garrett Wilson starting
a wide receiver for the Jets on opening day if
they were to somehow, you know, issue some kind of
a protest and skip voluntary OTAs. So of course, I mean,
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though those guys are the best players, their job is safe,
and yet they're all there with a new coach and
a new coaching staff and a new system, and they're
all buying in and they want to be there and
they want to be a part of this. And I mean,
to me, that's why you pay those guys, right, Like,
that's why you reward your best players with you know,
picking up the fifty year option and talking about contract
extensions because you want to keep guys that are bought
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in here. Not only are they bought in, but they're
also the most talented guys on the team.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
What do you make a quarterback one Justin Fields?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
First?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I wanted to ask, did you call any of his
collegiate games?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I did. There's someone posted a highlight somewhere and someone
showed it to me of him throwing in Ohio State
touchdown to Garrett Wilson. So I called it, Yeah, Justin
Fields to Garrett. So there is somewhere out there a
call of me calling a touchdown pass from Justin Fields
to Garrett Wilson. So I definitely had him in college.
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I mean, he was a pup right like he was
a baby. I don't even remember if we met with him.
Maybe we did, but he's obviously a totally different human
being now because he's been through, you know, some building
up of Armadillo's skin. I'm sure going through the draft,
being in the NFL, you know, and bouncing around a
little bit, and I'm trying to find, you know, a home.
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What I liked though about the position he's in is
unlike other quarterbacks. The way they're putting the team together,
and they certainly showed this to you with what they
did in the first round of the draft, drafting you know,
Membo would right tackle. It almost seems to me like
they are envisioning a team that can insulate him for
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some success, the same way that the last time that
Jets were really good, they insulated Mark Sanchez right Like
Mark Sanchez was behind a brick wall of an offensive line.
He had Thomas Jones and Ladanien Tomlinson, you know, Sean Green,
guys you could hand the ball to. They had certainly
good enough skill position players, maybe not quite as part
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of me as good as Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson,
but very good skill position players and a really really
good defense. And that to me kind of describes what
they're doing with this team, right, like, build a big
offensive line in front of him. You've got three running backs,
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any one of which could carry the ball twenty five
times in a game, and you'd probably think we could
develop a game plan with that guy carrying at twenty
five times and go win. And they've got three of them.
Drafting him a tight end drafting him a wide receiver.
You know, it seems like they're putting, you know, kind
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of building a fort around him and saying, look that
you don't have to go out there and be, you know,
a world beater like you can be a guy that
leans on his running game, leans on his offensive line,
sets up play action, uses your own legs to go
make a play once in a while, and we've seen
that have success here. And for a guy that you know,
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probably feels like first couple of teams that had him
quit on him, I don't know what his confidence level is.
And when he gets punched in the mouth the first
couple of weeks, which is gonna happen, It happens to everybody.
You know, is he gonna be the most confident quarterback
in the world or is he gonna have to grow
that confidence back? Well, they've now given him team where
you probably can grow that confidence back with this group,
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as opposed to you know, having to bring you know,
like an Aaron Rodgers in and basically saying all right,
this is your show, this is all about you, This
is all about where you want to go with the ball.
The whole offense basically just runs through your right arm,
and that's going to be what judges our success or failure.
And that's not the way it is, I would think
with this group at all, you know, So I'll be
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optimistic that they're at least setting the table for Justin
Fields to have a chance to succeed. I'll be as
interested as anybody to see how he does early on.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I think it's conceivable, Shoes that the Jets can go
from thirty second, dead last International Football League and rush
attempts to.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Top ten, maybe top five Russia.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
If you're playing to your strengths and those three running
backs right, and you can lean on your run game
and protect your quarterback and allow him to kind of
grow back into himself as a confident player. Yes, you know.
I mean, look, they had a terrific running game with
Najie Harris and Pittsburgh. They leaned on that and he
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went out there and won a bunch of games until
Russell Wilson took over. There was a quarterback controversy. We
were there when Russell Wilson first came out to be
the quarterback. It was either that week or the week
before they played the Jets. They won the game and
the Jets had a couple of really bad turnovers that
helped Pittsburgh win the game, But the first three or
four possessions, the crowd was booing Russell Wilson, I mean
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booing him off the field because the Jets were creating
three and outs and he had just recently taken over
for a quarterback that was four or five games over
five hundred and Steeler fans are sitting there going, we're
six and seven and two whatever we are, why did
we make a quarterback change? Well, justin fields was that quarterback.
So just as recently as last year, he lost his job,
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but he wasn't playing badly when he lost it. The
team was winning when he lost it. So maybe at
least he brings that confidence into this year with the Jets.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I certainly see the parcels imprint on ag in terms
of being tough, went into the line of scrimmage, running
the football, playing strong defense, and then the emphasis on
special teams.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We're gonna see that throughout the year. There's no doubt
about that.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, no question. I mean he's there's a reason that
you know, certain coaches of the coaching tree and the
players that played for them. Yeah, then mirror the you know,
the attitude that those guys had, and that you can
hear a lot of that in Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I agree, all right, So quickly, let's do something we
like to call hear me out.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
These are quick opinions.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And for this week, we're going to go to Minnesota,
where the NFL held its annual spring meetings.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Okay, shoes. The NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Up for debate was the tush push, the elimination of
the tush push.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Where did you stand on that?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And are you surprised that the tush push lives on?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Maybe I'm gonna get myself into trouble here. I don't
know where the Jets one of the teams I think
they were that voted in favor of keeping it right.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
According to ESPN, NFL and Sienter Adam Schefter, the Jets
voted to keep it.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Okay, So regardless of whether the Jets voted to keep
it or not, maybe I won't get myself in trouble
if they are a team that voted to keep it,
although I don't know how they voted myself. To me,
like football has its roots and its DNA, I guess
probably in rugby more than any other sport, right, I mean,
it's a certain number of people on each side of
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a line of scrimmage, the ball's in the middle, and
it's a massive humanity and who can beat each other
at that line of scrimmage? And this play, to me,
seems to kind of be rooted in that tradition as
much as any other play in football. And to me,
it's kind of a basic question of like, you can't
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stop it, tough, keep us out of third and one,
keep us out of fourth and one, and then when
we get the third and one or fourth and one,
figure out how to stop it. And to me, that's it,
Like what what are they doing that isn't not only
you know, legal in today's rules, but also almost kind
of rooted in like you know, the the DNA or
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the you know, the prehistoric version of what we know
is modern day football. This this is like as far
back as you're going to go, when dinosaurs were ruining
the earth and football was being played, they ran plays
like this, And so you're aligned to be you know,
some manhood to get up there and stop it. You
can't stop it. That's not our fault. And so I
have no problem with the touchbush staying in the game.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
The voice of the Jets aligns with the Jets on
this one. Huh, all right, Yes, I knew.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I you know, I didn't know for sure if I did,
but I guess I was afraid I was going to
get that opinion and find out that the Jets are
one of the teams that voted to get rid of that,
and maybe they would yell at me for having my opinion,
but you know that's my opinion. Figure out how to
stop it.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Oh okay, So the Lions removed this proposal where they
wanted to say reseting in terms of the playoffs because
last year's examples was that people talk about was Detroit
and Minnesota. They played that final game in the regular
season that was for the NFC North title. Minnesota loses
that game, they finished fourteen to three. They open up
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on the road in the postseason. The owners actually didn't
vote on this one. But do you think that wildcard
teams who had better records than division winners should be
seated higher?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
In my opinion, I've always thought this, and I think
that there might be like ways to put this in,
but it's a little off the wall. I do think
you can make an argument that for fairness sake, a
division winner shouldn't get a home game, but only if
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there are some like tiebreakers involved, as in, you're a
second place team in your division and your record is
at least three or four wins better than a division champion,
or a division champion's below five hundred like something like that.
But to me, if you just blanket say we're just
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gonna seed it by record, you're gonna open up just
as many problems going in the opposite direction than you
have now. So you're gonna have situations, as you said, now,
we're gonna have a division winner that's like nine and
eight or ten and seven, and there's gonna be a
team that's fourteen and three and somehow they end up
in you know, second place, so they lose a head
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to head game with another fourteen and three team, lose
a tiebreaker there on the road. Is that fair? No?
Is it also unfair though, where there's a division where
everybody looks at that division and knows, oh, come on, right,
like three of the worst five teams in the league
are in said division, and the team that wins that division,
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like for many years the Patriots in the AFC East, right,
like they just rolled out of bed and they had
seven wins out of the eight games, if not eight
right on the docket, you know, like that that can
throw things out of whack in terms of fairness too.
So I don't know. I do think that there should
be a reward for winning your division. I think they
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should still keep the integrity of that in place, but
maybe if they came up with some benchmarks that you
had to hit that was so out of whack to
create some fairness. But I would lean towards keeping it
the way. It isn't rewarding a team for winning their
division if they're not going to make a change.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
But what I'm hearing from you, I think potentially is
down the line, you wouldn't mind seeing, Hey, listen, if
you win the division, but maybe you're under five hundred,
you're not hosting a playoffs.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I wouldn't have a problem if they came up with
some of those I mean, you know, when we get
to like the last two or three weeks of the
season and they put up the NFL tiebreakers for who's
going to make the postseason, I mean, my god, there's
like it's like, you know, like code for a computer
like you can't even keep up with it because there's
so many machinations. What's a couple. More So, like what
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I would add to the tiebreaker perspective is I would say,
if you were a division winner, but you're below five hundred,
or if there's a two seed out of a division
and that two seed has won say three or four
games more than a division winner, then I would take
that team and put it above any division winner that
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they have, you know, gone past, in terms of like
a gap of wins. I think you could do something
like that if you wanted to try to, Like what
I'm trying to do is thread the needle. I'm trying
to keep the perspective of the importance of winning your
own division and some kind of a reward for that,
but also having maybe a fail safe in place when
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they're there's a year where a division winner is just
so obviously weak and undeserving of a home game and
a top three or top four seed, that you've got
a mechanism in place to make sure that somebody doesn't
get screwed. That's all. But if you just make it
purely based on record, you're absolutely going to get some
teams that are gonna have an unfair advantage because they
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might be in a weak division and a team might like,
right now, regardless of what your record is, if you
win the AFC West, you're good. Like you're a good team, right,
there's some really good teams in the AFC West, and
if you win that division, you deserve a home game.
I don't care what your record is, right, Like you
obviously had to run kind of a gauntlet. You can
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absolutely come up with a way to penalize a team
for winning a division that's really competitive if you're not careful.
And that's what I would want to guard against.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
We're gonna come back and talk playoffs and big moments shows.
Do you wake up sometimes during the spring and wonder
where the hell you are?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I do.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Uh A lot of times it's like what day is it?
That Also a lot of times I'll be Saturday, I'll
think it's Wednesday. I'll think I have to call home
and talk to the kel. Wait a minut the kids
are in school, like I I'm You know, you not
only forget where you are, but you forget what day
of the week it is because it all does run together.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
And you feel sometimes when you're at the airport you
are actually part of the movie.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Maybe a sequel to Up in the Air.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, like with George, Yeah, with uh and also with
you know, rest in peace, wishes to the great George
went and just recently passed away from Cheers. I feel
like norm like walking into Cheers. Sometimes when I walk
into Newark Airport, people see me, like the TSA. Sometimes
they recognize me. I'm like, oh, that's not good. If
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TSA recognizes you, that's you're here way too much. And
these days just escaping Newark Airport is a challenge in
and of itself. Beyond the games are getting to where
I'm going fair enough.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Well, you're back in Jersey now. We're happy to see it, Bag,
We're happy to see. What was the experience, Like, how
would you sum up the Stanley Cup playoffs? And I
really want to emphasize here Game six, your tremendous call
of another Jets team, the Winnipeg Jets against the Dallas Stars,
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and the confluence of events there.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, it started with me having almost like a little
bit of a schizophrenic experience as a broadcaster, because on
one hand, I've got a team named the Jets trying
to win a playoff game. Their opponent was wearing green
and white. I know it was like all kinds of
(36:47):
worlds colliding, but yeah, Mark, for folks that didn't know that,
a career Jet and I say career Jet meaning creer
Winnipeg Jets since their most recent incarnation of the Winnipeg Jets,
what I'd like to move back to Winnipeg. Their first
draft choice was a guy named Mark Shiflee. And Mark
Schiflee was to the Winnipeg Jets, or is what guys
(37:12):
like Nick Mangold and to Brickashaw Ferguson and you know,
like guys like that are to the Jets right like
a legitimate career. You hope Garret Wilson and Sauce Gardner
and Breiese Hall are going to be guys that will
play their whole career with the Jets. With Winnipeg, Mark
Schiflee was an unrestricted free agent. The worst kept secret
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in the NHL is nobody wants to play in Winnipeg.
And he re signed to stay in Winnipeg because it
mattered to him, same way it matters to Aaron Glenn
to come back to the New York Jets, right, it's
in his DNA. He's invested. And then his father passed
away overnight before game six, and he was told that
in the morning in Dallas, and we got to the
(37:53):
rink on you know, for the morning skates, and we
were told, we don't even know if he's gonna play,
and what decision could possibly be the wrong decision. I mean,
if he goes home, he's going home to his family,
after his wife, after his dad passed away. So but
then very quickly we were told that Coach went over
saw him in the hotel and he immediately said, I
am playing. I talked to my family. They want me
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to play. I want to play, and I know my
dad would want me to play. And he scored the
first goal in the game, and so and the game
goes to overtime and Dallas wins, and the series comes
to an end, and then there's the handshake line. He's
breaking down. We're documenting that the celebration of the stars.
There was all different kinds of things firing around, and
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our crew did a great job, I think of documenting
every bit of it. And yeah, it was an amazing
event to be a.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Part of what is that like in that moment when
he does score a goal less than twenty four hours
after his father had passed, and like you had mentioned that, hey,
they didn't know if he's going to suit up, lace up,
and he's out there on the ice, and not only
he's out there on the ice, but he scores and
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you have to capture that moment and you're all invested.
But at the same time, you know, you don't even
have time probably to take a step back and like
the magnitude of it, how do you handle that?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, I just my call was something like, you know,
with the heaviest of hearts, you know, Mark Scheifeley, you know,
scores and he immediately goes to the bench and gets
mobbed by his teammates. To see him on the bench
with a smile on his face, knowing the grief that
he was carrying, and then all of that emotion let
out after the game. You could see that as well. Yeah,
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I mean it was all you can do is document
that moment that the pictures speak for themselves, and I
think that's what we did.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You did an awesome job. You always do.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
You are one of the most versatile play by play
men out there. I kind of want to end with
this before we get back to the Jets one quick one.
How are you able to do it? Not a lot
of guys can say, Okay, I've done MBA before, I've
done NFL.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I've been the voice of the Jets for twenty four seasons.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
You do NHL Stanley Cup playoffs, and oh, by the way,
here in a couple of months, you're gonna get your
schedule for college football. How are you able to go
from sport to sport? And what kind of advice do
you give people coming up in the industry.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I mean, I'm a sports fan, Like I watch everything.
When I was young, I watched all sports all the time.
So I mean, look, I'm you know, definitely don't overrate
what I do. I get ready for a game the way,
you know, like a teacher puts together their lesson planned
to stay in front of their kids of the morning
and present the lesson plan, and you know, the way
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a lawyer gets ready for a case. I mean, I
do my homework and then hopefully you're prepared and you
go and use document what you see. So yeah, it's
I'm not digging ditch and I'm certainly not. You know,
it's not brain surgery either. It's sports, and hopefully I'm
just something that is adding to the enjoyment, when really
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it's all about the athletes, right, I mean that's I
didn't play, I didn't coach. I'm definitely aware when I'm
watching the NFL or the NHL or big time college
football or basketball or NBA, you know how incredibly gifted
the people that I'm watching and documenting are able to
do what they do. And to me, all I'm trying
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to do is bring that home.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
When you are in the postseason like that. Let's get
out of here with this one. How much are you
looking forward to the next call of the Jets playoff game?
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You know, and not just a Jet playoff game, but
a home playoff game. That's what I want to see.
I want them to win a division. I want Jet
fans to be at the game, all of them, you know.
I mean, obviously there's always a group of Jet fans
that have been at every road playoff game. But I
remember in two thousand and two when they won the
most unlikely of division titles, and you know, they played
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a home playoff game and won by a million and
we're walking out of the stadium. Afterwards, I remember saying to
the guys, I'm like, man, that place was absolutely electric.
It was rocking. How much fun was that? I can't
wait to do that again. That was it. We've never
done it again. They haven't had a home playoff game
since two thousand and two. So for the Jet fans,
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the ones that tailgate every single week, that come to
all the games, that go to the draft parties, that
you know, consume all of the stuff that you guys do,
is you know, the real diehards, the ones that deserve
it the most. I wanted for them. I want them
to have the experience of being in their stadium watching
their team in a playoff game on their home field
that they have a chance to be at without having
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to hop on a plane, you know, out to Denver
or out you know wherever, out to Kansas City or
something and go scout a ticket from a fan of
another team. I want them on their own season tickets,
in their own seats, to be able to be at
the game and watch our own playoff game. And so
I'm rooting really really hard for Jet fans to get
to experience that.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Well said, great seeing your brother, Welcome back home, glad.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
To be here. I'll see you soon, sooner than we realize.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Probably game day and every day.
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Speaker 2 (43:37):
We're a long way off from counting wins and losses,
but the Jets are executing their plan. They've moved in
silence and put in the work. Aaron Glenn is setting
a tone and there is buying. You can see that
late in May when you have one hundred percent participation
at voluntary OTAs, you can see it. One star wide
receiver Garrett Wilson, who is eligible for a contract extension,
(44:00):
says he wants to be part of something special.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
He wants to.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Be here working with his teammates and the new staff,
and he said, there's a way you go about the
business when you love what you do. You can see
it when Quinn Williams owns up to a social media
post calling it immature, when he posted on x about
another rebuild year for me, listen. He wants to be
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part of the change here, he said. Quinn and Williams said,
I was paid to help turn this thing around. The
Jets are going to build this thing the right way
with Darren Musgy and Aaron Glenna.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
This is a young roster. Three players are north of thirty.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Consider Tyrod Taylor, the backup quarterback is thirty five, Thomas Hennessy,
the long snappers thirty and Josh Reynolds, who will compete
for that number two wide receiver spot, is thirty dayfore mentioned,
Quinn and Williams is still a babyface twenty seven and
he's the second longest tenured Jet.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
He sounded different this week. You're already seeing a lot
of buying.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
There are going to be bumps, and this is just
the start, but the culture change has begun.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
That's it for us. Enjoy your Memorial Day weekend. We're
going to be back here next week.
Hey, what's up everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We've got a great pod today as we headed to
Memorial Day weekend. We're gonna talk Jets, broadcasting playoffs in
several sports with the Voice of the Jets, Bob was
shoosing OTAs of course, started here this week in Florence Park,
and we're also gonna dive into what happened at the
NFL lead meetings in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Finally, I'm gonna deliver an extra point.
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
We meet anybody in the world, and I think we're
gonna win. Next Sunday Gets Wonders. Can't wait. Put your
seat belts on and get ready for the ride.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Shows. Great to see you, buddy, Glad to be here. Hey,
what were your expectations.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Let's go in a time machine right now, back to
two thousand and two when you were applying to be
the guy, the voice of the Jets.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Oh well, there was some drama back then. You know
that not everybody knows about almost didn't get the job.
It was written in the paper that somebody else got
the job. But hung in there, and you know, I
mean I was just making my way, still trying to
kind of find a lane in New York that was mine, right,
(01:37):
Like every job that I had had, I was kind
of backing up other people, filling in over here as
a jack of all trades at WFAN and then I
was at MSG. You know, anybody that missed for play
by play, any chance I had to do a game,
it was because I was filling in for someone on
their job. It wasn't my job. So this was the
(01:58):
first time that and you know, credit very much back
then to Bob Parente, Terry Bradway, like those guys were
probably more than anyone the ones that pushed it across
the finish line on my behalf. They were the first
to offer me a job that was mine. Right, this
is your gig and you're gonna be identified with us.
(02:19):
And I'm glad it worked out because I mean it's
thirty years now, right, My first year of covering the
team was ninety six. That's that's year two of co
Tite and now we're twenty twenty five, so all in,
that's thirty years of being around the Jets on basically
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a weekly basis all season, you know. So it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So that was a different role back then in two
thousand and two. What was the reaction, What was the
reaction from family and friends when you actually they saw
on the paper that somebody else was getting the job?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, you know what. I don't even know if any
of them noticed it, because it was like during It
was like a blurb in the back of the New
York Post. It wasn't something that like, I think it
was kind of put to bed and I was back
in the mix before anybody even realized it. I noticed it.
I saw it. I confronted it or I dealt with it.
But but yeah, it was it was interesting. I remember
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I was doing it was written in the back of
the New York Post that I was going to not
get the job, that someone else kind of very matter
of fact, we had been given the job, And ironically enough,
I saw that the exact same day I was going
out to Long Island to do an arena football game,
(03:41):
a Dragons New York Dragons game on MSG and our
halftime guest. Ironically enough, that day was scheduled to be
Terry Bradway. So I wrote out there thinking that this
was going to be the most uncomfortable ten minute interview
ever because he was going to be there knowing I
(04:01):
didn't get the job, and I was probably going to
be telling him that day or soon after that my
time with the Jets was done. Like, if someone else
gets the job, I'm going to go find something else
to do. I'm not going to just forever, going forward
be the backup guy to someone else and you know,
do the pre and post game show. It's I mean,
I've been the backup guy for three or four years now.
(04:23):
If I don't get the job, I'm done. Well. He
comes into the booth and I said, you know, Terry,
how are you. You can't be happy to see me?
And he's like, what are you talking about? I said, well,
I didn't get the job. He goes, what are you
talking about? I said, it's in the paper. I didn't
get it. You gave it to someone else. And he
said not true. I said really, He said, I'm just
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telling you. I'm in all of those meetings right like,
I'm kind of high up the food chain at the Jets.
I'm the general manager. If you didn't get the job,
or if someone else did, I would know about it.
I was like, okay, I'm just telling you hang in there.
That decision has not been made yet, not true. And
if I hadn't seen him that day, I don't know
what my reaction would have been or how long it
(05:08):
would have lingered. I just got really lucky that the
day that I saw what turned out not to be
true written in the paper, I was gonna basically have
the horse's mouth walk right into the booth and be
able to deal with it that afternoon. And he was great,
and he told me to hang in there, and eventually
in the end it all worked.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Out all right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Some play by play guys they grow up in Los Angeles,
they start calling games for maybe a professional team in Chicago,
or somebody grows up in Miami and to the play
by play guy for a team out.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
In San Francisco. But you are a local guy.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
How significant was it to you and is it to
you to this day that you are the Jets play
by play man.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, it matters to me to be identified with something
that people where you live care about. That that matters,
and not that all of the work that I don't
that I do for ESPN isn't great, and I aspire
to do bigger and better for them. Called one of
the you know, semi final or other quarterfinal games of
the college football Playoff this past year, regularly doing you know,
(06:17):
acc big twelve sec games for them on Saturdays. Obviously,
my role with the NHL went all the way through
the second round of the playoffs and touched on like
five different playoffs series and had a chance to be
in all of those buildings and it's amazing. Even last
year had a chance to call a Rangers Conference final game,
which was a thrill. So all of the work that
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I do for ESPN to blast, but it matters to
me being a New York area guy. I mean, I
grew up basically a half hour outside of New York
City in New Jersey, and outside of the four years
that I spent in college and my first job out
of college for about two and a half years when
I was in Miami, the other you know, forty seven
(07:00):
of the fifty three fifty now going on fifty four
years i've been alive, have all been here. This is
where I'm from, this is where my family's from, this
is where all you know, the majority of my friends are,
and so yeah, to be identified with something that is
ingrained into the New York sports scene matters to me.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
If I told you in O two that you were
going to be entering your twenty fourth season in twenty
twenty five, you have to be one of the longest
tenured play by play guys in the National Football League.
I don't have the list in front of me, but
what would you have said.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I don't know, that's a good question. I was just
thrilled to get the job, and then every year as
we went forward, I was just looking forward to the
next year. Then all of a sudden, season piled upon
season piled upon season, and you start to realize, jeez,
I've been doing this for fifteen years. Okay, great. I
still love hanging out with those guys. We have a
great group that we get to hang out with every Sunday.
You know them all. So it's always fun, no matter
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how rough the seasons are, no matter how much the
team is struggling, it's always fun to go to the
games and be at the games and call the games.
So I never really thought of it in terms of,
you know, the time going by, and I guess I mean,
none of the other networks ever put me to any
kind of a choice, like NBC, CBS, Fox. No one
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ever came to me and offered me any kind of
an NFL job. I don't know why they just no
one ever showed interest. So I was never really ever
put to any kind of a decision by anyone where
I would have to decide to give it up or
not continue with it. It's just always been a given
that every fall it's going to be time for another
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Jet season. And so, yeah, I guess I'm one of
the longest tenure I mean, certainly they're you know, Merril
Reese and Philly brad Sham and in Dallas. I know,
my buddy Dave Passion has been doing the Cardinals forever.
Like there's a handful of other guys out there that
are well into their twenties, if not their thirties. I mean,
Merrill might be doing the Eagles for a forty years now. Yeah,
(09:01):
there are some guys that have, you know, become the
identifiable voice of their team for a long time. And
I think part of the reason that all of them
have lasted as long as they've lasted is because I
don't think they've ever thought of it in any other
terms than that that just looking forward to another season
(09:22):
arriving and looking forward to having a chance to go
do the games again. And by the time, you know,
all those years pile up, you almost didn't notice because
it's been a fun ride along the way.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What's the approach painting the picture for Jets fans? Because
you are broadcasting on radio or streaming platforms as opposed
to broadcast where people are watching the game with you.
And also you have to take into account, and I
know you do, is that, Hey, there are some people
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still to this day who are going to listen to
you in turn their TV doubt.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, and I appreciate anyone that does that. Obviously, there's
the mechanics of it where you're I mean, even if
someone is syncing us up to the TV or maybe
we're on a streaming platform, I have to assume the
vast majority of people that are listening aren't looking at
the game. Right it is still radio, So you do
need to give people the geography of where the ball is,
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how much time is left, what's the score, who's on
the field, what's the formation. Television I don't have to
do any of that, right, All of that information is
on the screen, down in distance, how many timeouts, what's
the score? What quarter are we in time left in
that quarter? The clock I mean, right, Like, all of
that's on the screen. You can see where the ball is.
So a lot of times, you know, on TV, my
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lead up to a play can be something as simple
of and a huge third down and then I just
lay out and let the play snap and happen. Radio
you can't do that. I mean, obviously radio you are
giving everybody all of the nuts and bolts geography of
where it's at. But just in terms of how I
call the game, I am aware that ninety five percent
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of our audience I'm assuming are Jets fans that want
to know how are the Jets playing the stories about
their players? You know, like that there is that focus.
You're doing the game through that lens. I'm calling it
through a Jets lens. So you know, most of my
prep is on the Jets. You know, I do certainly
prep on the opposition, but you know, most Jet fans
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don't need all the nuts and bolts about the backup
tight end for the Atlanta Falcons, Like that's not their interest.
They want to know, you know, what the game plan
is for the Jets that week and how they're playing,
and so you know, am I a little bit more
enthusiastic when the Jets score a touchdown and the opposition?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Absolutely, I mean Jet fans are listening. I'm a Jet fan.
I want them to win. So clearly, you know, you're
a little more excited when when they're doing well and
they're winning. But also in New York, and I think
we take a particular pride in this as New Yorkers,
and this area is New Yorkers don't want to be
lied to, right, they don't want to be told that
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they're not seeing what they know they're seeing. So if
the team isn't playing well, we say the team's not
playing well, because like if it was you know, Oklahoma
Sooner football and your job is to wave the Pompoms
and every Saturday it's go Sooners, And on their actual
broadcasts they say, you know, we us, we need a
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big drive here, a big this's a big play for us. Now,
it's never with me. You will never hear that because
I don't play for the team. I don't coach. I
am documenting the Jet game, but for the Jets, you know,
so as much as I like to think of myself
kind of a part of the organization, I'm calling the
game with hopefully an honesty to it that a New
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Yorker will appreciate, because I think New Yorkers appreciate that
they don't want to be rooted for or lied to
and told what you know that the things are better
than then they know it to be.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
How do you make the adjustments appear seamless? You work
with Marty Lyons for twenty plus years. You guys have
a tremendous relationship. He still is an ambassador for their organization,
but loved dude. And then there's a transition to Anthony
beckt in you and ab right from day one, you know,
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to the listener, you guys sounded like you had been
working together for years.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I mean it's really mostly a testament to those two guys.
Then they both have made it. Marty for twenty three
years and Anthony for last year as well made it
so easy because you know, if you're on the air
for three and a half hours on a Sunday afternoon,
it's hard to kind of hide your personality completely. And
I think Jet fans that hear Marty and hear Anthony.
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Their vibe off of them as boy, those those sound
like two really good guys. Like they sound like really
nice dudes. And I will say about both of them,
they are both nicer than you think they are, so
in terms of like their professionalism and their ease of
being able to work with them, you know. I mean,
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if you can't work with Marty or Anthony, then you're
the problem, you know. So it Yeah, I don't really
even feel like there had to be an adjustment period.
Probably wouldn't have to be an adjustment period for anyone
in my seat. I bet if Dan Grossa jumped in
tomorrow and called a game instead of me with Anthony,
it would sound like those two have been together for
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fifteen years. That's just you know the personalities of those guys,
all right.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You've been connected to the Jets since nineteen ninety six,
like you articulated before, Aaron Glenn was drafted in the
first round nineteen ninety four. He's now the head coach
thirty one years later. What have your takeaways been in
the early going when you're not broadcasting from Winnipeg or
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NHL playoffs, As you hear some of the news come
out of one Jets drive. Mind you, we know the
Green and White have been moving in silence.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, I watched all the press conferences and listen to
everything he said like everyone else, I have yet to
have the chance because I've been on the road so
much to spend any time with him. I have no
idea if he'll have any memory of me. I mean,
I was a twenty six year old back up play
by play guy with a microphone in the locker room
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when he was But I think he left the Jets
either the year of or the year before I got
the job full time, So I was just one of
those guys in the locker room with a tape deck
over my shoulder and a microphone, part of the gaggle.
I don't know that he would remember me at all.
Maybe he will. I'm looking forward to getting to know
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him again. But everything that he said, I mean, you
were with all the press conferences, you've interviewed him. When
has he said one thing thing since being hired that
wasn't the thing that you or a Jet fan would
want to hear, right, Like, if this matters to him
being here, matters to him being asked to come back
to this where he was drafted into the league and
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basically played the majority of his career. You know, like
begin a family like that, that that's in his DNA
and it matters to him, and I think that, you know,
it really seems like he and Darren Mougi are very
much kind of the same mindset of how they want
to build a football team, and they're not into making headlines.
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They're really into foundationally putting a team together that hopefully
the guys that are already on the team that can
be stars, can benefit from that foundation being behind them shoes.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I thought this quote was particularly particularly impactful. He said
this during OTAs Ota started here for the Jets this
week and the media is allowed at practice on Wednesday.
He said, We're going to be selective at everything that
we do. I don't want this to be an outfit
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where everybody fits, and that's just what That's just the
way it is.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I mean, I you know, I wouldn't necessarily want to
draw this parallel out of bitterness and also out of
maybe not giving them their due respect. But like he's
got some Patriots background, Does that or does that not
sound like what they would kind of call the Patriot
way back right. This is not for everyone, and we
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want to find the guys that this is right for
and that we also know our right for this, and
that to me was one of the biggest things that
allowed the Patriots to constantly surround Tom Brady with the
right guys all those years to allow him to succeed
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and allow that French guys to succeed, and guys that
eventually almost come they wore out on them, Like some
guys eventually had to escape it because they were a
part of it for so long, but very rarely did
they experience that's kind of successful they went anywhere else
that Yeah, there has to be a buy in for
how you want to do it, and you got to
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find guys that are willing to buy in. And I'm
really encouraged that he's making no bones about it, like
he's he's kind of putting his cards out on the table. Look,
this is not going to be for everybody. The way
we're going to coach this, the guys we're going to
bring in, the way we want to play, how we're
going to build our team, what we're gonna ask you
to do. It's not for everybody, but those that it's for,
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we know it can succeed because that he does come
from places where there's been a lot of success.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Speaking of buy in the Jets exercise or fifth year options.
On three, twenty twenty two draft pick Sauce Garner, Garrett Wilson,
and Jermaine Johnson.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Wilson talked to media this week's shoes. He said, I'm
hopeful I'm a Jet for life. What was your take
on that?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
And I remember so many offseasons with the Jets, one
of the biggest headlines would be how much salary cap
the Jets have, right how much space they've got. They've
got fifty sixty seventy dollars of space to go out
and they can sign this, and they can sign that,
and they can go get the most expensive, you know,
kind of toy out on the market. And it's fun
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to talk about that in March and April heading towards
the draft and they're adding big names. But you know
who doesn't have a lot of cap space each year?
The Chiefs or the Packers haven't, or Baltimore or Pittsburgh
like those teams don't have a ton of space because
they've got good players on their team, and that's who
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they want to pay, And to me, that's the thing
that goes the furthest in the locker room. Then when
you see a team bring guys in, realize they are
their best players, and then give the salary cap space
that you have available to those guys. Right, they should
be paying Garrett Wilson, they should be paying Brisol, they
should be paying Jermaine Johnson, they should be paying these
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guys on the offensive line. Those are the guys that
you saw us. You want to keep those guys because
hopefully being here and resurrecting this matters to them as well.
That that's all part of that culture that I think
Aaron Glenn wants to build. So to me, it's a
good sign to not have cap space, and it's a
good sign when you're taking your available cap space and
giving it to the guys who are already on your
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team and have earned it and deserve it. So yeah,
happy to see that they're making that commitment to those
foundational guys.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
One hundred percent participation here and it's a voluntary This
is a voluntary phase of camp. So if guys aren't happy,
they don't have to be here. Mandatory mini camp is
not for a couple of weeks yet, but with this
new staff, they're buying in.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, and look, you know, certain guys, regardless of whether
it's kind of quote unquote voluntary or mandatory, they're gonna
be there, right like you call it mandatory or voluntary.
Mala Cock Corley's gonna be there because he's trying to
hold onto a spot on the team because they're drafting
wide receivers and like those guys, they're not gonna miss
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anything out of a fear of job security. But like,
is Sauce Gardner not going to be starting at corner
for the Jets on opening day or Garrett Wilson starting
a wide receiver for the Jets on opening day if
they were to somehow, you know, issue some kind of
a protest and skip voluntary OTAs. So of course, I mean,
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though those guys are the best players, their job is safe,
and yet they're all there with a new coach and
a new coaching staff and a new system, and they're
all buying in and they want to be there and
they want to be a part of this. And I mean,
to me, that's why you pay those guys, right, Like,
that's why you reward your best players with you know,
picking up the fifty year option and talking about contract
extensions because you want to keep guys that are bought
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in here. Not only are they bought in, but they're
also the most talented guys on the team.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
What do you make a quarterback one Justin Fields?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
First?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I wanted to ask, did you call any of his
collegiate games?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I did. There's someone posted a highlight somewhere and someone
showed it to me of him throwing in Ohio State
touchdown to Garrett Wilson. So I called it, Yeah, Justin
Fields to Garrett. So there is somewhere out there a
call of me calling a touchdown pass from Justin Fields
to Garrett Wilson. So I definitely had him in college.
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I mean, he was a pup right like he was
a baby. I don't even remember if we met with him.
Maybe we did, but he's obviously a totally different human
being now because he's been through, you know, some building
up of Armadillo's skin. I'm sure going through the draft,
being in the NFL, you know, and bouncing around a
little bit, and I'm trying to find, you know, a home.
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What I liked though about the position he's in is
unlike other quarterbacks. The way they're putting the team together,
and they certainly showed this to you with what they
did in the first round of the draft, drafting you know,
Membo would right tackle. It almost seems to me like
they are envisioning a team that can insulate him for
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some success, the same way that the last time that
Jets were really good, they insulated Mark Sanchez right Like
Mark Sanchez was behind a brick wall of an offensive line.
He had Thomas Jones and Ladanien Tomlinson, you know, Sean Green,
guys you could hand the ball to. They had certainly
good enough skill position players, maybe not quite as part
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of me as good as Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson,
but very good skill position players and a really really
good defense. And that to me kind of describes what
they're doing with this team, right, like, build a big
offensive line in front of him. You've got three running backs,
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any one of which could carry the ball twenty five
times in a game, and you'd probably think we could
develop a game plan with that guy carrying at twenty
five times and go win. And they've got three of them.
Drafting him a tight end drafting him a wide receiver.
You know, it seems like they're putting, you know, kind
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of building a fort around him and saying, look that
you don't have to go out there and be, you know,
a world beater like you can be a guy that
leans on his running game, leans on his offensive line,
sets up play action, uses your own legs to go
make a play once in a while, and we've seen
that have success here. And for a guy that you know,
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probably feels like first couple of teams that had him
quit on him, I don't know what his confidence level is.
And when he gets punched in the mouth the first
couple of weeks, which is gonna happen, It happens to everybody.
You know, is he gonna be the most confident quarterback
in the world or is he gonna have to grow
that confidence back? Well, they've now given him team where
you probably can grow that confidence back with this group,
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as opposed to you know, having to bring you know,
like an Aaron Rodgers in and basically saying all right,
this is your show, this is all about you, This
is all about where you want to go with the ball.
The whole offense basically just runs through your right arm,
and that's going to be what judges our success or failure.
And that's not the way it is, I would think
with this group at all, you know, So I'll be
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optimistic that they're at least setting the table for Justin
Fields to have a chance to succeed. I'll be as
interested as anybody to see how he does early on.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I think it's conceivable, Shoes that the Jets can go
from thirty second, dead last International Football League and rush
attempts to.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Top ten, maybe top five Russia.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
If you're playing to your strengths and those three running
backs right, and you can lean on your run game
and protect your quarterback and allow him to kind of
grow back into himself as a confident player. Yes, you know.
I mean, look, they had a terrific running game with
Najie Harris and Pittsburgh. They leaned on that and he
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went out there and won a bunch of games until
Russell Wilson took over. There was a quarterback controversy. We
were there when Russell Wilson first came out to be
the quarterback. It was either that week or the week
before they played the Jets. They won the game and
the Jets had a couple of really bad turnovers that
helped Pittsburgh win the game, But the first three or
four possessions, the crowd was booing Russell Wilson, I mean
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booing him off the field because the Jets were creating
three and outs and he had just recently taken over
for a quarterback that was four or five games over
five hundred and Steeler fans are sitting there going, we're
six and seven and two whatever we are, why did
we make a quarterback change? Well, justin fields was that quarterback.
So just as recently as last year, he lost his job,
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but he wasn't playing badly when he lost it. The
team was winning when he lost it. So maybe at
least he brings that confidence into this year with the Jets.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I certainly see the parcels imprint on ag in terms
of being tough, went into the line of scrimmage, running
the football, playing strong defense, and then the emphasis on
special teams.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We're gonna see that throughout the year. There's no doubt
about that.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, no question. I mean he's there's a reason that
you know, certain coaches of the coaching tree and the
players that played for them. Yeah, then mirror the you know,
the attitude that those guys had, and that you can
hear a lot of that in Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I agree, all right, So quickly, let's do something we
like to call hear me out.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
These are quick opinions.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And for this week, we're going to go to Minnesota,
where the NFL held its annual spring meetings.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Okay, shoes. The NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Up for debate was the tush push, the elimination of
the tush push.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Where did you stand on that?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And are you surprised that the tush push lives on?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Maybe I'm gonna get myself into trouble here. I don't
know where the Jets one of the teams I think
they were that voted in favor of keeping it right.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
According to ESPN, NFL and Sienter Adam Schefter, the Jets
voted to keep it.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Okay, So regardless of whether the Jets voted to keep
it or not, maybe I won't get myself in trouble
if they are a team that voted to keep it,
although I don't know how they voted myself. To me,
like football has its roots and its DNA, I guess
probably in rugby more than any other sport, right, I mean,
it's a certain number of people on each side of
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a line of scrimmage, the ball's in the middle, and
it's a massive humanity and who can beat each other
at that line of scrimmage? And this play, to me,
seems to kind of be rooted in that tradition as
much as any other play in football. And to me,
it's kind of a basic question of like, you can't
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stop it, tough, keep us out of third and one,
keep us out of fourth and one, and then when
we get the third and one or fourth and one,
figure out how to stop it. And to me, that's it,
Like what what are they doing that isn't not only
you know, legal in today's rules, but also almost kind
of rooted in like you know, the the DNA or
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the you know, the prehistoric version of what we know
is modern day football. This this is like as far
back as you're going to go, when dinosaurs were ruining
the earth and football was being played, they ran plays
like this, And so you're aligned to be you know,
some manhood to get up there and stop it. You
can't stop it. That's not our fault. And so I
have no problem with the touchbush staying in the game.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
The voice of the Jets aligns with the Jets on
this one. Huh, all right, Yes, I knew.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I you know, I didn't know for sure if I did,
but I guess I was afraid I was going to
get that opinion and find out that the Jets are
one of the teams that voted to get rid of that,
and maybe they would yell at me for having my opinion,
but you know that's my opinion. Figure out how to
stop it.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Oh okay, So the Lions removed this proposal where they
wanted to say reseting in terms of the playoffs because
last year's examples was that people talk about was Detroit
and Minnesota. They played that final game in the regular
season that was for the NFC North title. Minnesota loses
that game, they finished fourteen to three. They open up
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on the road in the postseason. The owners actually didn't
vote on this one. But do you think that wildcard
teams who had better records than division winners should be
seated higher?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
In my opinion, I've always thought this, and I think
that there might be like ways to put this in,
but it's a little off the wall. I do think
you can make an argument that for fairness sake, a
division winner shouldn't get a home game, but only if
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there are some like tiebreakers involved, as in, you're a
second place team in your division and your record is
at least three or four wins better than a division champion,
or a division champion's below five hundred like something like that.
But to me, if you just blanket say we're just
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gonna seed it by record, you're gonna open up just
as many problems going in the opposite direction than you
have now. So you're gonna have situations, as you said, now,
we're gonna have a division winner that's like nine and
eight or ten and seven, and there's gonna be a
team that's fourteen and three and somehow they end up
in you know, second place, so they lose a head
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to head game with another fourteen and three team, lose
a tiebreaker there on the road. Is that fair? No?
Is it also unfair though, where there's a division where
everybody looks at that division and knows, oh, come on, right,
like three of the worst five teams in the league
are in said division, and the team that wins that division,
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like for many years the Patriots in the AFC East, right,
like they just rolled out of bed and they had
seven wins out of the eight games, if not eight
right on the docket, you know, like that that can
throw things out of whack in terms of fairness too.
So I don't know. I do think that there should
be a reward for winning your division. I think they
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should still keep the integrity of that in place, but
maybe if they came up with some benchmarks that you
had to hit that was so out of whack to
create some fairness. But I would lean towards keeping it
the way. It isn't rewarding a team for winning their
division if they're not going to make a change.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
But what I'm hearing from you, I think potentially is
down the line, you wouldn't mind seeing, Hey, listen, if
you win the division, but maybe you're under five hundred,
you're not hosting a playoffs.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I wouldn't have a problem if they came up with
some of those I mean, you know, when we get
to like the last two or three weeks of the
season and they put up the NFL tiebreakers for who's
going to make the postseason, I mean, my god, there's
like it's like, you know, like code for a computer
like you can't even keep up with it because there's
so many machinations. What's a couple. More So, like what
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I would add to the tiebreaker perspective is I would say,
if you were a division winner, but you're below five hundred,
or if there's a two seed out of a division
and that two seed has won say three or four
games more than a division winner, then I would take
that team and put it above any division winner that
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they have, you know, gone past, in terms of like
a gap of wins. I think you could do something
like that if you wanted to try to, Like what
I'm trying to do is thread the needle. I'm trying
to keep the perspective of the importance of winning your
own division and some kind of a reward for that,
but also having maybe a fail safe in place when
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they're there's a year where a division winner is just
so obviously weak and undeserving of a home game and
a top three or top four seed, that you've got
a mechanism in place to make sure that somebody doesn't
get screwed. That's all. But if you just make it
purely based on record, you're absolutely going to get some
teams that are gonna have an unfair advantage because they
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might be in a weak division and a team might like,
right now, regardless of what your record is, if you
win the AFC West, you're good. Like you're a good team, right,
there's some really good teams in the AFC West, and
if you win that division, you deserve a home game.
I don't care what your record is, right, Like you
obviously had to run kind of a gauntlet. You can
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absolutely come up with a way to penalize a team
for winning a division that's really competitive if you're not careful.
And that's what I would want to guard against.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
We're gonna come back and talk playoffs and big moments shows.
Do you wake up sometimes during the spring and wonder
where the hell you are?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I do.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Uh A lot of times it's like what day is it?
That Also a lot of times I'll be Saturday, I'll
think it's Wednesday. I'll think I have to call home
and talk to the kel. Wait a minut the kids
are in school, like I I'm You know, you not
only forget where you are, but you forget what day
of the week it is because it all does run together.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
And you feel sometimes when you're at the airport you
are actually part of the movie.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Maybe a sequel to Up in the Air.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, like with George, Yeah, with uh and also with
you know, rest in peace, wishes to the great George
went and just recently passed away from Cheers. I feel
like norm like walking into Cheers. Sometimes when I walk
into Newark Airport, people see me, like the TSA. Sometimes
they recognize me. I'm like, oh, that's not good. If
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TSA recognizes you, that's you're here way too much. And
these days just escaping Newark Airport is a challenge in
and of itself. Beyond the games are getting to where
I'm going fair enough.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Well, you're back in Jersey now. We're happy to see it, Bag,
We're happy to see. What was the experience, Like, how
would you sum up the Stanley Cup playoffs? And I
really want to emphasize here Game six, your tremendous call
of another Jets team, the Winnipeg Jets against the Dallas Stars,
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and the confluence of events there.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, it started with me having almost like a little
bit of a schizophrenic experience as a broadcaster, because on
one hand, I've got a team named the Jets trying
to win a playoff game. Their opponent was wearing green
and white. I know it was like all kinds of
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worlds colliding, but yeah, Mark, for folks that didn't know that,
a career Jet and I say career Jet meaning creer
Winnipeg Jets since their most recent incarnation of the Winnipeg Jets,
what I'd like to move back to Winnipeg. Their first
draft choice was a guy named Mark Shiflee. And Mark
Schiflee was to the Winnipeg Jets, or is what guys
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like Nick Mangold and to Brickashaw Ferguson and you know,
like guys like that are to the Jets right like
a legitimate career. You hope Garret Wilson and Sauce Gardner
and Breiese Hall are going to be guys that will
play their whole career with the Jets. With Winnipeg, Mark
Schiflee was an unrestricted free agent. The worst kept secret
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in the NHL is nobody wants to play in Winnipeg.
And he re signed to stay in Winnipeg because it
mattered to him, same way it matters to Aaron Glenn
to come back to the New York Jets, right, it's
in his DNA. He's invested. And then his father passed
away overnight before game six, and he was told that
in the morning in Dallas, and we got to the
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rink on you know, for the morning skates, and we
were told, we don't even know if he's gonna play,
and what decision could possibly be the wrong decision. I mean,
if he goes home, he's going home to his family,
after his wife, after his dad passed away. So but
then very quickly we were told that Coach went over
saw him in the hotel and he immediately said, I
am playing. I talked to my family. They want me
(38:15):
to play. I want to play, and I know my
dad would want me to play. And he scored the
first goal in the game, and so and the game
goes to overtime and Dallas wins, and the series comes
to an end, and then there's the handshake line. He's
breaking down. We're documenting that the celebration of the stars.
There was all different kinds of things firing around, and
(38:35):
our crew did a great job, I think of documenting
every bit of it. And yeah, it was an amazing
event to be a.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Part of what is that like in that moment when
he does score a goal less than twenty four hours
after his father had passed, and like you had mentioned that, hey,
they didn't know if he's going to suit up, lace up,
and he's out there on the ice, and not only
he's out there on the ice, but he scores and
(39:02):
you have to capture that moment and you're all invested.
But at the same time, you know, you don't even
have time probably to take a step back and like
the magnitude of it, how do you handle that?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, I just my call was something like, you know,
with the heaviest of hearts, you know, Mark Scheifeley, you know,
scores and he immediately goes to the bench and gets
mobbed by his teammates. To see him on the bench
with a smile on his face, knowing the grief that
he was carrying, and then all of that emotion let
out after the game. You could see that as well. Yeah,
(39:41):
I mean it was all you can do is document
that moment that the pictures speak for themselves, and I
think that's what we did.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You did an awesome job. You always do.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
You are one of the most versatile play by play
men out there. I kind of want to end with
this before we get back to the Jets one quick one.
How are you able to do it? Not a lot
of guys can say, Okay, I've done MBA before, I've
done NFL.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I've been the voice of the Jets for twenty four seasons.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
You do NHL Stanley Cup playoffs, and oh, by the way,
here in a couple of months, you're gonna get your
schedule for college football. How are you able to go
from sport to sport? And what kind of advice do
you give people coming up in the industry.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I mean, I'm a sports fan, Like I watch everything.
When I was young, I watched all sports all the time.
So I mean, look, I'm you know, definitely don't overrate
what I do. I get ready for a game the way,
you know, like a teacher puts together their lesson planned
to stay in front of their kids of the morning
and present the lesson plan, and you know, the way
(40:50):
a lawyer gets ready for a case. I mean, I
do my homework and then hopefully you're prepared and you
go and use document what you see. So yeah, it's
I'm not digging ditch and I'm certainly not. You know,
it's not brain surgery either. It's sports, and hopefully I'm
just something that is adding to the enjoyment, when really
(41:11):
it's all about the athletes, right, I mean that's I
didn't play, I didn't coach. I'm definitely aware when I'm
watching the NFL or the NHL or big time college
football or basketball or NBA, you know how incredibly gifted
the people that I'm watching and documenting are able to
do what they do. And to me, all I'm trying
(41:32):
to do is bring that home.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
When you are in the postseason like that. Let's get
out of here with this one. How much are you
looking forward to the next call of the Jets playoff game?
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You know, and not just a Jet playoff game, but
a home playoff game. That's what I want to see.
I want them to win a division. I want Jet
fans to be at the game, all of them, you know.
I mean, obviously there's always a group of Jet fans
that have been at every road playoff game. But I
remember in two thousand and two when they won the
most unlikely of division titles, and you know, they played
(42:12):
a home playoff game and won by a million and
we're walking out of the stadium. Afterwards, I remember saying to
the guys, I'm like, man, that place was absolutely electric.
It was rocking. How much fun was that? I can't
wait to do that again. That was it. We've never
done it again. They haven't had a home playoff game
since two thousand and two. So for the Jet fans,
(42:34):
the ones that tailgate every single week, that come to
all the games, that go to the draft parties, that
you know, consume all of the stuff that you guys do,
is you know, the real diehards, the ones that deserve
it the most. I wanted for them. I want them
to have the experience of being in their stadium watching
their team in a playoff game on their home field
that they have a chance to be at without having
(42:56):
to hop on a plane, you know, out to Denver
or out you know wherever, out to Kansas City or
something and go scout a ticket from a fan of
another team. I want them on their own season tickets,
in their own seats, to be able to be at
the game and watch our own playoff game. And so
I'm rooting really really hard for Jet fans to get
to experience that.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Well said, great seeing your brother, Welcome back home, glad.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
To be here. I'll see you soon, sooner than we realize.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Probably game day and every day.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Score a Drewelry touchdown with Kendra Scott. Shot Fashion and
fine Jewelry Fit for another winning season at your local
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Speaker 1 (43:34):
Shine Bright, do good with Kendra Scott.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
We're a long way off from counting wins and losses,
but the Jets are executing their plan. They've moved in
silence and put in the work. Aaron Glenn is setting
a tone and there is buying. You can see that
late in May when you have one hundred percent participation
at voluntary OTAs, you can see it. One star wide
receiver Garrett Wilson, who is eligible for a contract extension,
(44:00):
says he wants to be part of something special.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
He wants to.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Be here working with his teammates and the new staff,
and he said, there's a way you go about the
business when you love what you do. You can see
it when Quinn Williams owns up to a social media
post calling it immature, when he posted on x about
another rebuild year for me, listen. He wants to be
(44:27):
part of the change here, he said. Quinn and Williams said,
I was paid to help turn this thing around. The
Jets are going to build this thing the right way
with Darren Musgy and Aaron Glenna.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
This is a young roster. Three players are north of thirty.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Consider Tyrod Taylor, the backup quarterback is thirty five, Thomas Hennessy,
the long snappers thirty and Josh Reynolds, who will compete
for that number two wide receiver spot, is thirty dayfore mentioned,
Quinn and Williams is still a babyface twenty seven and
he's the second longest tenured Jet.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
He sounded different this week. You're already seeing a lot
of buying.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
There are going to be bumps, and this is just
the start, but the culture change has begun.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
That's it for us. Enjoy your Memorial Day weekend. We're
going to be back here next week.
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