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Subscribe to The Player's Club Podcast to catch your favorite Washington legends chop it up with current Commanders!   The legends London Fletcher, Santana Moss and Shawn Springs recap the Commanders HUGE Week 4 win out in the desert. Then, the crew throws it back to recap some of their favorite games against the Cleveland Browns. Plus, they'll preview Washington’s Week 5 meeting with Cleveland. And, running back Jeremy McNichols stops by the show to talk about his big performance against the Cardinals.  Hosts: London Fletcher, Santana Moss, Shawn Springs  Guests: Jeremy McNichols  Producer: Mady Benton, Kayla Key

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
We're back for another edition of the Players Club.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
This week, we're talking about the biggest Commander's news every
capping the big dub of the week out of Arizona, and.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
We're sitting down with running back Jeremy McNichols to talk
about its monster performance against the Cards.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Plus we're chopping it up about our favorite plays against Cleveland,
and we're ranking our favorite Ohio athletes.

Speaker 5 (00:25):
Sean Is London in your top three.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
That's all right here on the Players Club.

Speaker 6 (00:30):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
Where our passion is your protection.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Welcome to another edition of the Players Club. Your boy
is back in the building.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Man, he's bad.

Speaker 6 (00:54):
Miss you man. You actually we missed you, brother. Hey.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I miss y'all too.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
Man. I was waiting, listen back to the bro give
it the smooth. I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I couldn't take basket foods in there and chopping it
up and sitting in my chair.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I hear right, I say right, I gotta come back.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
Smooth with this woman up for you.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh man, it feels so good to be back here.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
We happy to have the guys are rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
It's been one of the bright spots, just been watching
the way the team has played, getting these doves, three
duves in a row. And we're gonna kick this session
off with Dubs of the week. Who is your dub
of the week? Tatam Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:30):
You know, I mean, honestly, I think when you you
hear us talk about dubs of the week, you immediately think, hey,
we're talking about the players.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
What players stood out? You know what I mean? What
guy had an exceptional game? You know? And and rightfully,
so we could talk about a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
You know, It's a lot of guys on all three
in all three phases of the ball game that we
can talk about. But I'm gonna have to tip my
head off to this guy because I think he deserves
it more than anything, because a lot of folks have
their mixed views about him, and I feel like, you know,
even us as a list as former players, you want
to really see who is he?

Speaker 5 (02:03):
And it's Cliff Kingsbury.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I think he's a guy that he's my age, so
I'm always going to give anybody the respect that you
can do it at this level, you know, on any
level at our age, because I feel like he's been
coaching way beyond, you know, way before he became where
we at today, you know, but at a high.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
Level, you know what I mean, doing it at a
high level.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
And one thing that was special about it, man, not
only what we did on that Money Night game in
Cincinnati offensively, but he carried over and went to Arizona,
knowing he was going back to a place where he
once considered home.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Not sure he circled with.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
I saw the energy of how he walked into the
stadium with the little bop. I said, you know what,
that was the same bot I saw money now on
the sideline when he you know, when those guys are
talking about he got a oh you know cottage.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Off college office.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yeah, I said, that was the same energy I saw.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
I saw a transfer now he getting off the bus
and he brought that the Arizona. But you know, I
think I got to give him, you know, my double
the week, just primarily for how it was like in
a timely fashion. I think the ball, the way we
executed each and every play on.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
That game up there in Arizona.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
It was just like man Cliff was in his bag, bro,
he couldn't miss it. And not only to say he
couldn't miss the guys, you know, the guys who's out
there executing the plays from they were spot on.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
And that's one of the things people take for granted.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
You know, we we play a game where he thinks
it's all about us, but it's all about them putting
us in position. You see what I'm saying, And I
think that's what Cliff has done that stood out more
than anything.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Hey, we gonna we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Be ecstatic and we're gonna ran and rave about what
we've been seeing from Jayden because he is the guy
that's out there executing these plays. But you got to
think about what Cliff is doing to set him up,
putting them in situations where, look, I'm not gonna allow
you to think more than you have to. It's either
gonna be here, it's gonna be there, and then you
go be special because if it ain't there at all.
And I think you saw that time and time again

(03:57):
in the game when these guys had out number had us,
had us you know, dead, the rights now he couldn't.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
No one was open.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Now it's going to be special, ja And I think
it's a credit to Cliff allowing him to know that
it's gonna be a time for you to do this.
But you do it when you don't have nothing else.
And so that's why I give Cliff my you know, my.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Double the week.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I'm gonna seguay off that My devil the week goes
to Terry. Now we talked about a guy and everybody's
been talking he hadn't had a touchdown, you know, when
is he gonna make a big play? And Cincinnati man,
And you talk about timely fashion, right timing, Cliff putting
guys in the right place, right in the right place,

(04:38):
but more importantly, trust in guys, trusting Terry trusting said, hey,
throw't be that that go ball.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
I'm thrown to go.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Cincinnati made the catch and then motion that came out
of Terry on the sideline. How he was pumped up
because you know, we always talk about he leads by.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
His actions, not by his words.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
And I was just, you know, just impressed with him
that it was just like his time in a big
moment when he asked for it and he called for it,
he got it, and that led into the Cardinal game.
You talk about going on the road, you know, supporting Cleft.
He made some plays there. So Terry is my winning
the week man, and I'm just proud of the dude.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
Man.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
I'm really excited about about you know, what he's been patient,
what he's done.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Yeah, I mean, you know, speaking of Terry, you know,
you know, before you get to yours, London, I love
to say, like, you know what's special?

Speaker 5 (05:34):
What's more special to me?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Just to see those moments happening, Because one when everybody
was ranting and raving about him not getting the ball,
I was like, man, as a receiver, I was one
of those guys. I allowed the game to flow to me.
London asked me plenty of time tending why you want
a diva because being a diva didn't work for me.
I wasn't the one that was finna go out there
talking about something. Even when it came to talking trash,
like if somebody said I'm gonna lock you up to him,

(05:58):
all right, we had to see I'm not finna get
back into that hole on that pissing contest because I
don't want that.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Ain't my game it don't work for me.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
And I think when I've been watching Terry for the
last six years, that's how he's approached this game. He
doesn't go out there, you know, fussing and you know,
chirping at the bit about.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
What he needs and how he's going to do it.
He just allowed to flow.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
And so speaking of that Cincinnati game that you you
know you spoke of, we didn't get a chance to
chat about it after the game on the sideline you know,
we're doing our post game show there me be mentioned BC.
ESPN had Terry prime time. He had to be the
guy that they talked to. I'm pretty sure Jane had
his share, you know, had his chance to talk to
ESPN as well. But Terry left from over there and

(06:39):
gave me the biggest hug, sweaty hug too, because he
was still something with still something away from the game.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I just took it, man, you always frish.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
I was like, man, guess what I how to take
this with you because you know that's Terry man, because
I'm like, damn, he shared that with me.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
But I know how that moment respect.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
What's that moment you're talking about?

Speaker 4 (07:02):
And he was just like, bro, they can cancel Christmas.
Now they believe that man on man and I can dominate.
And and when I when I heard him say, it
was almost like that's how we feel. That's what we're
thinking as receivers. We saying to ourselves, Man, when you
see us go out there and make a play like
that against that particular coverage and you he called in
and asked for now, these coaches are gonna always you know,

(07:26):
favor him in them situations and they understand that he
can go out there and execute at a high level
with you know we're doing so So that was that
was to me. I think it was fantastic that just
to have that experience with him and just to see
it now carry over, you know to Arizona again.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Man, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go to the
defensive side for my dove of the weekend.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I know the defense you know didn't.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Play like lights out right, light side, light side, but
they did some great They made some great plays. In particular,
there was a sequence was fourteen to seven Arizona's driving
fourth and one there you know what you consider polyfield
goal range. They opt to go for it and we

(08:11):
get a sack doing So from getting sacks on fourth
and one, it's fourteen to seven right before the half.
The next time the Arizona Cardinals got the football, they
were down twenty four to seven. You hold them, we
get a field goal right before the half, seventeen to seven.
Come out of halftime scoring on the touchdown, twenty four
to seven. So that sequence where dorn So I'm gonna

(08:33):
thron gets his sack and the reason he was able
to get that sack because the coverage, the defense of
look that.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
They gave to Kyler Mourriy.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
He had to hold on to the football and that
allowed Doris Armstown to get that sack. And defensively, I
thought the defense are front in particular, you felt their
pass rush, You felt that president the ball game getting
four sacks. Linebackers were out standing, man, Frankie Louvu, Bobby Wagon,
and they were out there running around, flying up and
off the screen with the play and going into that game.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
With a colin Mary that we were worried about, scrabbling
and the.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Other and he did, he didn't, he didn't do.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Want to be speaking of that play too, man, that
you talked about, that's one of my favorite plays of
the week. That was one of my favorite plays that
I that I saw from my defense, primarily because like
you know how this game is, man, it's it's.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
A copycat league.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Each and every week there's gonna be a team that
has executed something. The next team is gonna say, we're
gonna use that. And you think about it now. When
we played in Tampa, they ran those shallow crosses, they
got in those bunches. They did so much out of
those tight splits. Then you going to the Giants, it
was third and long early they got in that tight split.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
The neighbors hit the first first down on the shallow cross.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
That play that he got that fourth and one, the
guy zipped in, got into a bunch and ran the
shallow cross.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
You saw Bobby pick him up. And now he don't
have his first ring, ye exactly.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
We wait for a second week, which he should have
threw it, and it was too late because Managi came
out and knocked it down.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
But that was all the cover you know, covered sacks.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
So it was just great to me to see these guys,
I guess you could say, capitalized off of something that
they had got, you know, that hindered them the first
two weeks.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know that it was a sequel.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
It was a play and saying the same tact where
they go from a bunch to a motion. They were
gonna play man the man initially the e motion, the
pre snap communication. It was Mikey Sandrich still kind of
leading the charge, calling Hay with Jay, we're going for
this man cover to his own. They played a covering, Yeah,

(10:30):
cover too, and all of a sudden forces Murdy the
hold and he's getting hit.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
That that's that's the next level type of defense that
was on display right there. That's why we got to
get the defense. That's why we got you back there.
You know, I went to the dark side, who don't
make no adjustments?

Speaker 6 (10:49):
Man?

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Man, Well, all right, fellas man. You know what time
it is. It's time for drive Time. Drive Time is
presented by Eastern Automotive Group any car anyway for everyone
since nineteen eighty eight. You know, I had to say
that a little bit. I had. I had to put
that little thing in before we get going. Well, you know,
in drivet time, man, we're going to talk about the
biggest commander's news, the biggest news going around in commanders.

(11:14):
I guess you can sew called country Commanders. Yeah sounds good, right, Country,
I like that man. All right, So first on the list,
let's talk about mister Jayden Dais and Jeff you know
what I mean. Now, y'all know how it is, bro
one of the things what y'all been seeing the most
about on the news, just isp you name it.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Everybody want to everybody jumping on the bandwagon.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
All good, But you gotta admit when you see the names, uh,
Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Man has the highest percent
completion percentage to the first four games in the history league,
not just rookies.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
Yeah, and you and you associate.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
With those names when they're showing that on Sunday Night football.
It's on the big screen. Come on, man, that's big news. Man,
that's what and that's that's saying a lot.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Look look so so so just to get back at it,
you know, Jayden Dames was named or one of Tom
Brady's top three stars of the week, you know what
I mean his day and Danes had the highest completing
the highest completion percentage of any QB and in their
first four years, I mean, you know, my bad in
their first four games ever, Like so eighty two point

(12:25):
one percent.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
He's leading.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
He's leading, But some of some of the best of
the best talk about three talking about.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
But I hit a car. I was like, shot, I
betted it with a call.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
But what I'm saying, how y'all feel about?

Speaker 4 (12:40):
I mean, is that something that you know we talked
about on one of our other podcasts. Man's some of
the things that we've been seeing from Jaden exists sustainable.
Like it's something that you can see that him accomplishing
over and over and over and like, how you know,
beast moo say over and over again, how y'all feel
about some of the things you've seen from this guy?

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Well, you look at him, he's all He's was an
extremely accurate quarterback coming out of college, and he's even
more accurate in the pros and some of the things.
It's not like he's just throwing you know, five yard
roles deacon and ducting over or one yard gold now
routes and.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
Things like that.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
He's he's taking shots down the field, he's in shots,
he's making throws on the rug moving. I think he'll
whether completion percentage remains the same, I mean, eighty two percent,
that's just that's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
Down.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
It'll come down, but even with the precision, the completion
percentage will come down. But he's going to get better, yes,
because even watching that game against the against the Arizona Cardinals,
he left a couple of players out there in the
passing game and he'll go back, he'll look at it,
and I think he even mentioned that in some of
the post game interviews and even since then, like where

(13:53):
you know, it was still like we were not a
finished product, left some things out there because there was
there's some times where maybe okay, I can hold here
just a tab bit second.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
And throw this, make this completion. Things like that, make
this throw.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
What I love about him is his ability to process
so quickly. There was a couple of times where I
saw him processing as he was in this drop back.
So he's going through his progression like going one to two,
even as he's dropping back. He didn't wait to get
to his top of his drop to go from one
to two to three. And he does that, you know, well,

(14:28):
extremely well.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
But when you can do.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
It as you're dropping back, and you can kind of
eliminate certain.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
You say you saw that, what did you see?

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Like you because it seemed like you was locked in
on that, how'd you know?

Speaker 1 (14:39):
So I went I.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Went back and I watched the ALL twenty two and
so as you with ALL twenty two, you get to
see the end zone copies of it, you see the
sideline copies. The TV copy is not going to give
you all that. But when you go back and you
watch the coaches film in ALL twenty two, and you
can see it's just showing you basically tackle the tackle.
You can see him as he stealing this progression and

(15:01):
you know, hey, or stealing his drop back. He's going,
he's he's looking at these eliminade guys already and that
way gets it out. He's getting that ball out there.
I think he's getting the ball out faster than anybody
in the NFL is because of things like that. But
then there's also a play where he goes from you know,
going from one to two at the top of his riding.
All of a sudden he comes and here's Luke McCaffrey

(15:23):
on that throw it, and he's that's his third read.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
Heck of a throw.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
So when you gonna throw and catched even to even
trust a young Luke, And it was something about what
Luke did there.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
It brought me back.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
To the Cincinnati game too, because we had Luke on
the and we talked to him in the post game
and I asked him about how does it feel to
be out here young and kind of having an experience
and he was like, bro, you know what, he said,
so many young guys out there that's doing it at
the same time, we all living it together.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
So we having that.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Experience, we were sharing that experience together amongst each other.
So it was great to see that play just knowing
what he said to Meat a week ago.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
You know what I'm saying, So sustaining it's sustainable, will say.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
What we know that.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I had an old ball coach guy named Mike holkwoman.
Most people know him because he had Brett fav and
some guys, and coach Hungham used to say, I need
to see a quarterback for fifty six games before I
believe he's a really good quarterback. In fifty six games, man,
that's like three years. By fifty six, I think it
was like three and a half years.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
Well, it's like.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
That season, right, that's you know, that's that's that's like.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
Like three years. He wants to see him for the
first three year.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Now we're starting to see guys and we can all
say c. J. Stroud was that guy last year who
came in the league and looked like at one time,
like man, this guy was on Pacer being Offensive Player
of the Year was great. These quarterbacks are coming into
the league right now.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Season. Yeah, this season.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Season ready to go, Jayden.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
What I see is it might go down and London
say he's getting better, but it's just you can't teach poise.
How about to throw that zach Ertz in the back
of the end, so two point conversion, two point conversion anticipation.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
He was on the right side of it.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
He's from Jamee's perspective, he's on the right side of
the defender.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
Defender has his back.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
He throws it and knowing that that window was going
to be open for Zirk like you're throwing in windows
type windows. Like you said, a lot of the completions
aren't just dinking dunks. He's throwing down the field. He's
actually come back. He's actually on one too.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
So I mean, you know, after having that success, he's riding,
he's riding that way.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, So when you see that type of poison. What
you're talking about reading and you're dropping stuff like that
and stuff man that kids special.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
So basically all go down.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
But he he's it.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
So basically we all agree it's sustainable to see the
play you know, his his style of play, the team
style of play, it only could get better. But far
as the completion percentage, that's something that just rare, you
know what I mean. That's like we're not even looking
for those numbers eight each and every week. That's something
that just happens.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
You know about this, and we can switch topic, but
think about how as we had, each one of us
got more season. You know, the more games we got
under our belt, where there might have been games where
you had better numbers, but because we gain more knowledge,
more experienced, we became better football.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
That's what's going to happen to him Bingo with the
more games he plays, staying at staying on Jayden. You
know how cool was it?

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Man?

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Just a day ago, we was over here, me and
Smooth scene one of our old two thousand and one
draft mates, Mike Vick, came over to have a sit
down with him, and Mike Vick and him changed club. Well,
he said he want to be on the podcast. He
said he want to be on. He say call him
and he wanted he want to come in, you know Shire,
So maybe we're gonna get him here or the commands
in the part wherever it's gonna be at. He said,

(19:02):
since the Players Club, you know, make sure I try.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
To get him on here.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
But him and Jaden got a chance to exchange jerseys
and Doug Williams mister mister Doug. That Mike, you know,
Mike called him mister Doug. Uh. They actually he actually
shared the picture that he took with all three of
those guys. Those guys had their jersey too, So that's
dope man. Just to see the I guess you could
say that the generations, you know a ball, you know

(19:27):
what I mean. Far as you got Doug there being
the first African American quarterback to ever start and win
the Super Bowl, you got Mike Vick.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
He's like a I of quarterbacks that changed the game.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
Is Mike the first minority quarter to be the first
overall pick.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Or we had one no one on the first pick,
first of all first even even though he went to
the right, So Mike might be the first. I don't
think he was the first of somebody before Mike.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
What was James Harrison. James Harrison one of Well, we
about have been.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
We have to ex look, we're gonna have to look
at the fact check that.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
For we come say this, Mike Vic he was ahead
of his he was his time.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
He's what the league looking for right now.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Oh man, this dude with the fastest man on the
on the field and he had the football in.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
His hands every single time running. I inspired my game.
That's the first time, like you talked about quick Mike.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Mixed time that I'm surprised you play that game.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
It was how did that go for you?

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Blue? Everyone you want to play its prime time? You
know it was a big matter Blue show listen.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
It's how there's a moment to be seen, gonna be said.
So don't you worry about that.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
You know, I was really pulling your leg. I ain't
know what went on on the defensive side of the ball.
You know, I was just going over and I was
just going on. When Guy told me, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
What it was like, it was like checking Joey Gallaway,
very similar, George joe Hey.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, Mike run man man zero to sixty. Though, Mike,
when he decided to run that football. He can go
for he was he was definitely the head man.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Just the respect.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Think about this, Jade has the ability to talk to
Doug Williams anytime he wants to. And the people around
here in Washington, they appreciating and know what Doug accomplished
him being the first African American starting then in the
Super Bowl to win the Super Bowl then also be
the Super Bowl MVP, and having him as a resource,

(21:40):
and and you could tell the the respect that they
have half of one another. So that's just uh, that's
I mean, that's to see that picture, that's the iconic picture. Hopefully,
you know, we'll look at that picture twenty years down
the road. Like, man, those are some legends, all right,
I got uh, I got something right here. Man, for y'all,

(22:00):
we got a Santana moss Man, sat Tynan. He's gonna
be the legend of the game this weekends game. What
does that mean to you to be recognized for your
accomplishments for.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
The burkeeting and go.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
I mean, honestly, man, to be real with you, you know,
I'm I'm regular declar I'm like I'm appreciative to say
the least, I just feel like, you know, we we
all have one goal, and we played this game one
we want to live out of childhood dream. That was
my first and foremost. Then when I got here, I'm like,
all right, right, what else I wanted to be? Remember

(22:40):
when I left the game and appreciated by the fans
and my peers, right who I played the game with,
you know, or played the game for. And then I
just wanted to, you know, more more than anything. I
didn't know a lot of this stuff that you know,
we get after we play well. But when I started
hearing about the pro bows, I tried my heart to
make it one every year and one always, you know, fortunate.

(23:02):
And then I said, man, may I be one of them?

Speaker 6 (23:04):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
If I'm not a Hall of Famer, may I be
recognized as one of the best for my franchise, you know.
And I think that that's one of the things that
you know, staying tall.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I'm glad you mentioned and you're a humble dude.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
And when I look at you and I for a
lot of fans, especially within the last generation of Washington fans.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
You were their hero.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
You were the best player that they saw doing that
that ten year frame. Time frame that you were here,
even with me on the team. Yeah, keep going, you're
not your name needs to be up on the Ring
of Fame. Yeah, and I know, wonder anybody else it's

(23:50):
gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I would like it to happen soon or rather than.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
That, because every time, like Cowboy Killer, Nobody's Giants Killer
Slayer and okay, he's two division opponents, but just the
fact of what he was able to accomplish in the
Burgey go, He's gonna go up in the Ring of Fame.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I'm gonna make it my business.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
To know that.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
Man.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
I'm being on that committee. Put that on the plan.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I don't know, man, I'm sure some other guys who
played here who have retired.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
I feel I feel like when I do go, it
probably be me poorter than Coolie together because you're thinking
about the.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Three, like we know how everybody have their triple.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
We're gonna get that. I feel you've been give.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Give Ce Pece what second all time in Russian you
gonna talk about his moment he wanted I get I
wouldn't be if you if they did that, because Cooley
was a ball in here too.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
We feel like three and they were.

Speaker 6 (24:51):
In your Spain.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
We was all together.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
And again.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
I know, but I appreciated them, man, And I think,
you know, just looking at it, you know we're talking
about the game that we're playing. You know that particular
game the Browns. I've had some big moments against the Browns.
So my first, my first ever punt return in the
league was against the Browns. And that's what I was doing.
Talk you know what I'm saying, Like you know that
was that was I was brought into this league by

(25:20):
the Jets to do, to be a punt returner. And
to say the least, my head coach that told me
that I had no choice in college but to run
punts back. It wasn't my it wasn't the option, was
the head coach for the Browns. When I did it,
I did you talk to still still they won't return?
Plus tell him that was the best thing. That was

(25:42):
the best thing I've ever done. That was the best
thing I've ever done for my career. Because if you
think about it, just like how I got into college,
people failed to realize like I quit track my sophomore
year in high school and that head coach in high.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
School told me, you need to get back on the track.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
And the year I get back on the track, we
want state as a team, and I won individual state
and two things triple jumping, loan jump. So like it's
it's always a coach there that's telling you that what's best,
you know, and to have that in your life that
special and for me to be uh, I guess the
guy who I was at the University of Miami. If
it was for punt I probably wouldn't be him, right one.

(26:19):
For punt return, I probably wouldn't been that guy because
offensively we had too many other weapons, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
So just to get to what we're talking about, Man,
the Browns, you know, yes.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Brown what's your Browns memory? Is that your brow? Your
memory is going to that's one of them. So one
of the Browns.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
I think the first one would be the punt return
against the Browns. I was in New York playing for
the Jets. It was my second year, my first remind you,
my first year, I was hurt knee injury before I
even played the game, so it's really like my first
year all over again. And to run that punt back
at the time, it was like coach Davis Bush. Davis
was the head coach for the Browns. This was his

(26:55):
second year as the head coach because he came into
the league with me. He left you him the same
year I left, the same year I got drafted, and
he was the one that told me I should be
a punt return so to have my first professional point return,
you know, ran back on his team.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
I'm like, you can't write this thing. You can't write
this thing.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
He was. I don't think he spoke to me.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
And then my other memory, I think with the Browns,
it's one of my fondest memories at which was fed
X that's now Northwest Stadium. I quught a I forgot
the guy name, but he's a Miami native. I grew
up watching him play cornerback from the town that I
told you about, from over town, and going into that week,

(27:47):
I was kind of nervous of playing on me because
I remember him when I was young him in high school.
He was like one of those dynamic guys. He can play,
he can play offense, he can play defense. He quick
forgot his name'm gonna think of I'm gonna have to
I'm gonna have to look it up. But he was
the me and Don't get me wrong, I didn't care
about him sticking me more so I was. I was
more so like a fan of him. So I'm like, damn,
I got this dude on me who I grew up liking.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Yeah, and so you know, I want to shine.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
And I got a highlight on him, man that I'll
never forget. I caught this shallow cross from I think
it was Jason Campbell. Caught a shallow cross. Nah, No,
I'm gonna think of his name.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Wasn't Corey. Corey's a Telehasse guy.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
I catch it.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
I'm up the right sideline, bous on our sideline, and
I spinn and some kind of way get into the
end zone still and I did the little good tied thing.
I remember they threw a flag on me because they
thought I was shooting the gun. But it was one
of my most funnest memories or highlights against the Browns.
And I'm like, wow, here I am going to this game,
you know, almost like a fan boy of the guy

(28:49):
who's who's gonna be covering me.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
From when I was a kid, you know, looked up
to him. And I'm having I had a good game.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Against were thinking about fans London. We're playing the Browns,
and I know from East Cleveland, you you get beat
up in your neighborhood if.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
You're not a Browns.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
I beat people up that.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Man, I.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Say, one of my boys, what is it like, man playing?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
What's your memory of your Browns? Remember your hometown team?
What's going on with it?

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Like?

Speaker 6 (29:20):
Tell me about that shoot? Right?

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I destroyed the Browns every time I played.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
I know what was that like? Because it was I knew.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I knew everybody was watching that game back home when
I was playing for the Rams Bill's Washington. They might
not have seen all my games, been able to see
all my games, especially because you know just what may
not have been a national television game, But I knew
that all the fans were going to be watching that game.
People I grew up with, they'll be watching to see

(29:53):
what I did. And you know, either gonna have I'm
gonna even have to either have Bragg and right, so
they gonna have rand man. So from the time out
the very first time I played the Browns back in
ninety nine, man putting that hammer down, I remember.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Too against the Browns. Yeah, I mean it's too many
I put it.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Let me get your stats.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Let me here, it's too many, all right, London. Four
tackles for a loss I n t uh in your
Browns career. That's just one game, Santana one hundred and
eighty yards receiving, one receiving UH touchdown and one return touchdown.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
Sean three tackles for loss in a sack against the Browns.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
I think listening, I played the Browns twice in my career.
Game you're talking about two thousand and eight.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Yeah, that's so.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I remember that game that was here here in fed
X at that point in time. There's a sequence we
made a goal line stance. You were you still here? Yeah,
your boy. First down, they try to run a ball, remember,
drop somebody. Second time they try to run the ball back,
drop somebody. Third time they go play action pass, try

(31:10):
to hit the full back. In the fact I'm out
there like a dB crowd is we literally like the
two yard line? We were coming out of the tunal side.
I remember, man, then Zoe made a play made to

(31:31):
play on fourth down. Man, you talk about we.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Were I remember that all but switching gears a little bit.
We went Ohio, my second home. We're talking about the
greatest athletes come out of the state, Ohio.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
We got you three.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I'm gonna name a list, and this is part of
the games. I'm gonna I'm gonna name them and you
gotta put your three.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Yeah, okay, So since we playing the Brown, we're gonna
give you this sigmente right talking about no.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Ohio, hoyo chose three athletes Ohio?

Speaker 6 (32:02):
Well you got this. You can't disrespectnon Fletcheres. We're going.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
We're going three. We got you three, Okay, give me,
give give you the name.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
We got Lennon Fletcher, Lebron, James Steph Curry, Russell Wilson,
Simon Bowles, Jason Kelsey, Travis Kelsey, Jack Nicholson, Kyle Schwarber,
who was a left fielder for the Phillies and fourth
row all pick.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
If you don't know, we is Pete Rose and Charles Woodson.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
I didn't even know some more bows was damn Pete
Rose from up there.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
Man, this.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I think our go can go against anybody now that
I think about it. Missippus pretty good too, watching paint,
Jerry Rice, you just told me two people you just
named off about twenty from.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
How I'm just trying to tell you you ain't from
You ain't from Ohio though, right from Virginia. Okay, I
know you be claiming on how you all the time,
so I just I just got to make sure, all right,
because I wasn't gonna leave put you on the least
you would all.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Right, Tanner reveal your Tanner. You are first revealed with
Tanner guy J.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Okay, I gotta put l B J one. I mean,
I don't think nobody. I don't think London would be
London number two and c dub number three. You know
what I'm saying, he ain't got you on the list.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
I gotta be true to Okay, I gotta be true
to sports.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
I got Stephen Lebron ain't one for basketball because I
got I couldn't decide between Lebron and stuff I love.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
You know.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
I gotta give a shout out Jack Nicholas. Jack Nichols
is the greatest.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Golfer, like two now, he's just no, it ain't no
no particular one, two, three, it's just top three.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
It ain't like no order.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Jack Nicholas is considered the greatest golfer all time. And
then I have to go with small Bos. She's the greatest.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
That's four. So you got these are one though, one
I can't.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Let's see turn Jack Nick just like that, like Blue, just.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Like Blue Fook. You know what you selfish mate with Steph,
you a lot of yourself some time you go. I'm
gonna do that all the time.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I'm gonna go some all bibs, no question, she's to go.
She's to go to gymnastics. What she just accomplished. Lebron
James l b j Man big I never heard. I
went to I went into my altar ego when he

(34:29):
on that field, he big flip flash, big fletch, you back,
big fletch.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
I was just.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
Talked about me.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
But sure it's come out every every second. You didn't
mean it's not already I already see his ego. No,
it's just like every minute. That's the other dude, just overwhelming.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
It's one person I want to put on the listen.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Just get shout out, no dispect football, Desmond Howard and
both my boys.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
I was tough me.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
We don't have to we don't have to say sorry
to them. We just this is all these guys know.
They're great in their own way.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
One of them, you know, Jack Nicholas Me being a golfer.
Now what he was able to accomplish, it's hard for me.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
I can take.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I can take Simon or Lebron. I ain't taking me off.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
When I'm talking about that love talking about That's when
I'm told I be.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Darn I be. If I be, do not call him.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
By the way, Big Fletcher is back and we'll see
him when he gets off this set.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
But Big Fletcher's back.

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(37:17):
All Right, fellas, it's time to talk a little commander's
defense man. How has that defensive front stepped up and
in a Cleveland flarrow the past few weeks?

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Well, I can tell you this, and I'm gonna jump
ahead of y'all because y'all the defense gurus. But just
from what I've seen, Jonathan and Payne both brought it
this last week, this past week, and I think you
know what stood out to me the most is just
knowing because I asked this to Armstrong, you know, in
our post game show about the game plan, just knowing
what Kyla did in the pocket. He was a guy

(37:49):
that's better outside the pocket. He wants to get out,
he wants to run around. He danced around, you know,
he like a little inch m He like a little
you know. I called him Jack grabb It a little
in a sense. He likes to get out of there
and do his thing. And I was like, what was
the game plan? He was like, man, collapse the pocket,
keep him inside, you know, I mean, you know, push

(38:10):
the front side. And that's what those guys did. I
think Jonathan did well up front. Payne has been playing
like that. He's been getting close each and every week.
But you know, it was to me, I think a
first sighting for Jonathan, and to me, it almost led
me to believe that probably the game one. In the
game too, he wasn't feeling himself, you know, because I
saw a different bounce in his stuff. You know.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
This past week, well we had four sacks against the Cardinals,
and I think you're right, the guys stepped to the
challenge because you know, defense is beginning take a lot
of slock. You know, been overshadowed by the players of
the offense. But we've been giving up points and not
getting off the field. And that's fair, fair criticism. But
the Tampa Bay game, they were all over Baker. They

(38:50):
couldn't get him down, They could not get him down.
A solid job against the Giants. But Cincinnati, I think
they heard the noise. They heard the noise. You know,
we're giving up that points against Joe Burrow and I
was just I was just impressed with the effort, you know,

(39:10):
just the effort looked like and like maybe maybe a
little sometimes you got to hear a little criticism. You
gotta hear a little disappointment from the fans for you
to put in our little extra effort. But to be fair,
they were close, but sometimes close you.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Got to seal the job, seal the deal, so to speak.
I don't and I don't know how much not.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Playing in the preseason impacted them in terms of just
getting your sea legs.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
This was the fourth game.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Now you're starting to feel, you know, you got your legs,
you got your conditioning, got your timing down. The frustration
of not getting to Baker Mayfield in that first game, well,
I'll say this, they they you felt their presence in
that ball game, and not just in terms of getting
to Kyler Murray and being able to sack him.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
There was also some plays down the field where you see.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Jonathan Allen running down the ball down the field, making
plays and and and being around the tackle, and you
seeing those types of things take place. So you you
love that far that part about him. Obviously during Armstrong
he was able to see I've.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
Been waiting on that.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
You talked about that earlier in the year about we
saw some flash what he could do at Dallas.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
And how I was gonna try he had been getting
close to get close. He was.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
He was able to impact the quarterback and make a
couple of get in on the second half. I think
the rookie John John Baptist just the game against the Bengals,
and he got the game.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
He also played well the linebackers. Man, we had to
talk a little bit.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
Let's talk about damn damn sure want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Frankie Louver and Bobby Wagon and the two highest graded
players on p f F this week.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
After the Cardinals games. Cardinals game, Louver was all over.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
He was headhead hunter. He dude, you know what when
you talk about a dude. Frankie Louisah, We've been saying
this from camp. I remember standing out there first time.
I was like, yeah, remember I said, who is that
right right now?

Speaker 6 (41:11):
Bobby?

Speaker 3 (41:11):
I know Bobby that league the year before. Bobby's mister consistent,
He's a dog.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Well, Frankie Lavou is like that lead of that defense,
that energy. We haven't seen anything like that.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
It's a tenacity to me.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
I think it's just the way he plays it so violently,
Like it's almost like watching the Program.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
You remember that movie The.

Speaker 8 (41:33):
Program, You remember how that du I mean, like if
I can man like Lou blowing stuff up and like
even the script fumble he got and he recovered it,
like it's like he's just like Bro.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
It's like I'm I'm sure those guys like Bro, I
don't want to get hit by him. Like he plays
it with a different kind of energy. And it's great
to see we have two guys.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
We can rely on. You know, it was one thing
having London.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
You know, for all those years we was always trying
to get another guy to step up to kind of
meet meet his energy, you know, and me and him
at to do because I think that would have made
us that much more.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
May I tell you what just to kind of piggyback
off what you said and to give you a insign
when you don't feel like you have other guys to
help you bring that energy. When you you're the one
that has to do it all, it takes it where Taro,
he takes a lot out of you. But the fact
that you have two guys, especially at that second level
and the defensive front, they will do their things. In

(42:28):
the back end do their things. But I've always felt
that you have to have that a certain amount of
leadership and passion and intensity from the linebacker level because
we're we're involved with stopping and run, were involved with
playing us has all the different things we're asked to do.
And when you get those that type of play from them.

(42:48):
Those guys. Man, just Bobby Wagner, you know, you all
know how I feel about him. His ability to there's
there's a couple of plays where the tackles that he make,
I'm just like, man, how did this do make this tackle?
You talk about the guy? I made it my first
share of tackles. But there's some places where he's able
to get to a guy slip a block, slipper blocker

(43:08):
and still get in on tackle. Things like that, and
his presence and the ability things that he brings to
the table. Man, they make a big difference.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
Man.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
And by the way, you said that with your test
a little bit we stopped running in the past.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Let me let you like, y'all the most valuable position on.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
The field or something you said a little bit ahead.

Speaker 6 (43:28):
We know how the secondary is most important. Keep keep going, man, you.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
See that, you go, you go. I knew we're gonna
get a blue mon.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
Test.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Mooth about me the dB all right, man, staying with
that theme with defense, we talking about the Browns defense. Man,
our run game, Yeah, the Browns they're giving up one
hundred and twenty three yards rushing against. Do y'all feel
like we'll be able to continue to have success running football?
Right now, we are third in the NFL and rushing

(44:00):
yards per game.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
You know I do, And.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
I'll tell you why.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
This is one of the things I love about this
league today because yes, they want to people want to
go out there and say they playing a college style offense. Okay,
maybe r pos, but when you have that many other
things you do off your run it opens the run up.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
You see what I'm saying. You spoke before I even
got to it.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
The RPO game alone is going to have you sitting
back thinking and I'm gonna either let it go or
I'm gonna keep it. And then not not to say
that what I haven't seen yet, because like I say,
I'm not sure if our coaches in college was ahead
of that time. I mean not in college, but in
the high school was ahead of the time. But we
ran r PO when I ain't even know what RPO was.
In high school. We ran the wing team and sometimes

(44:45):
we would sometime we would we would do this, hand
it off, hand it off, or he'll keep it. And
then we started realizing the receivers are wide open, so
let's show this motion drop back and get here somebody
on the deep post or a deep go or something
like that.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
So that's what we out to our leverage too. When
it comes to the run game.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
The run game now today has advanced so much more
than it was back in the day when we first
came the league, because like you said, you can run
an RPO off of that's two that's two guys. You
got to you know, you know, have accountable for or
we can slip screen it or find another way to
run a different kind of screen off of all those
different motions. So that's why I think that you're regardless

(45:24):
of what you're doing defensively in the run game. Far
as stopping the run, it's hard to stop what we
do because we have too many guys you have to
hold accountable for being in action.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Of that play.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Brian Robinson been just absolutely just baller. Right, He's a dude.
Give him a shout out to him. Because we came
on the show already, you would have to think after
four games and seeing our offense, at some point they're
gonna have to say, do we make them one dimensional?

Speaker 6 (45:52):
Do make them pass the ball? Run the ball?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
So if I'm Cleveland after putting it on tape, because
at first you think we don't know, it's a Bland
off so it's a college offense.

Speaker 6 (46:01):
We don't know what to do.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
It's on tape now, so now it's gonna be interesting
to see after four weeks, it's Cleveland gonna line up
with Newsom and Danzel and those guys and say, let's
see if we can put a little pressure on a
run game and force him to be a past team
and beat us in man coverage and rush.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
So it's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
I think we continue to run the ball the run skiing,
but I also think that at this point in the
season teams are gonna start saying you can't have it
both ways, and London we talk about that all the time.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
They start to scheme up for you. Now, what's your
thoughts around that?

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Well, then that's when the passing game comes a live
Here's interesting.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
Though, when you have the r p O. Yeah, man
man as a man, you gotta play man against it.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I get that, But you can't be right unless there's
a live back.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
You can't do right.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Because if if I put tuck that ball in that
running back stomach and you come up in behind you
or some other slide receiver something like that, if you
don't respect me handling that ball, putting it in the stomach,
and you stay back and pass, I'm just hand it

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off to him and allow our offensive lineman double team
como block up to the linebackers. You're gonna get moving.
So it's it's hard to be right when you have
that offense. And it's not just strictly an RPO game.
They got these penning pools where they do they get
outside the tights, done an excellent job blocking on the half.
The offensive lineman had done a great job running out,

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getting out of a perimeter making cornerbacks have to tackle
making say, secondary players have to be able to fit
the run properly and things like that.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
And you also still have the.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Jayden Daniels factor, his element and when he decides to
run the football.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
So it's it's yeah Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
I think coming into this ball game, they'll say, okay,
let's take let's do let's put a concerted effort on
stopping a run against Why see if our corners can
hold up.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
They can they you know, make plays in the past game.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
But to be able to try to do this for
sixty minutes, I think eventually it's gonna crack. The gonna crack,
and we're gonna get some gash places. Well, b robbing
Rob makes you make business. Robs his ability to get
quote unquote skinny in a hole that's not for a
big guy. He's able to get through these little creases,

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has great full body land.

Speaker 6 (48:28):
He's here with Blues said. He makes you make business decisions. Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Hit it before you even get to the business decision.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
He got great business.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
His ability to get up to that level. Yeah, no, no, this, Yeah,
you don't want to talk of that.

Speaker 6 (48:44):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
He's making he's making positive you know, gains when things
not positive, you know what I mean. It's plenty of
times where I saw him hit the back of you know,
two of his blockers and I'm like, I'm like, damn,
he adin't get a yard. Yeah, and before you know,
they were like, you know, second and eight. I'm like,
well he got two out of that, and then before
you know it, you know, the next player he getting
four or five of them. So I do believe having

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a guy like be Robbed running the ball the way
he does, and having a quarterback that we have as
specially as he is with the ball, it's kind of
hard for you to even like, you know, it's kind
of hard for you to sell out. You can't sell
out for one or the other. And I mean, going
into last week, that's what we thought, you know, Arizona's
gonna do. Arizona was known forget this exotic looks, We're
gonna bring pressure. We're gonna then Arizona say, na, we're

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gonna rush three and to make him come and you know,
sit back and cover and see if he can pick
us apart.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
Wrong move you said, did that? You know me?

Speaker 6 (49:35):
Now?

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Now you got two guys. You got to be robbed
out that stoppers in the run game. Then you get
you go out there and get our third stream running back,
which he deserved those carries.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
Magnicolas lash. Yeah, so you know we're gonna have him
on the show later.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
He deserved every bit of the carriage he got from
just what he did the week before.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
In that last shot to Terry.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
He was the guy that was blocking for Jay and
he put his right all in a in a foot
he told that line back up.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
You know what I'm saying, so devastating.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
You have so much going for you in that backfield.
We get Austin Echoler back. Not sure to what capacity,
but man, we have a great backfield. And I think
when you have the kind of scheme, have the guys
who scheme it up. Cliff, you have Anthony Lynn, you
know in his run game scheme. I think you can't
help but say, this run game is gonna be something
that we can hang out hats on.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
So Blue you mentioned you mentioned the cornerbacks of the
Cleveland Browns. Do you feel that Jaydon Daniels in the
in our wide receivers can continue to excel in the
passing game against those guys.

Speaker 6 (50:36):
Here's here's what I do know.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
One thing is we got they got a d N
So as a corner you feel confidence when you got
you know you got somebody who can gets the ball.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Uh, the big the big thing for Terry is our
leading receiver. The dan Zel Ward feels very very comfortable
because Terry, because it went against each other every dayn practice,
so we can't lose sight of a matchup like that.
And Danzel is arguingly it is probably top three corners.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
I see him being burnt beforeto what I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
But then I'm just saying, but this question was, do
you feel they feel comfortable like they can line up.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
And so you think that they just gonna put him
out that man on man and say you man up Terry?
All yeah, I think it's not even that's not Deon
didn't just man up everybody.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
I'm not just saying they played a lot of man. Yeah,
I feel I'm just saying that's what they did. Last
ye question, what do.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
I feel like the Cleveland feel comfortable and they got
they got a.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Really good they got a second second which I do know,
which I do know, but I would say this, and
I'm gonna say this because I want to give my
little two cents in Yes, they might feel comfortable with saying,
you know what we can throw, we can we can
man up Terry or.

Speaker 6 (51:44):
Whoever dan Zel gonna match up. But it's other guys.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
You got zach Urge, you got all these other guys.
I feel like other guys should be able to benefit
off of that.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
All right, man, we go.

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Speaker 1 (53:42):
Jerry Man, we appreciate you joining us on the show.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
I'm welcome.

Speaker 9 (53:45):
I appreciate y'all.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
I used to watch y'all one growing up. So appreciate.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah, man, So we watched you the last week A
gets the Arizona Cardinals do your thing. Man sixty nine
yards rushing, two touchdowns, the ad captain going into that game.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
What was it like for you to have a type
of game that you had against the Cardinals?

Speaker 6 (54:06):
I mean, it was it was amazing.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Man.

Speaker 9 (54:08):
We went into that week, you know, we had to
go grab two winds on the road, so yeah, it
was huge.

Speaker 6 (54:14):
You know, I have my family out there.

Speaker 9 (54:15):
I ain't seeing them in a little while, so it
was a little a little bit of motivation on the
West Coast, so it just felt good to just, you know,
put on for the squad.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
What is it?

Speaker 5 (54:23):
What has it been like?

Speaker 6 (54:24):
Man?

Speaker 4 (54:24):
You know, we've been hearing a lot about the culture
that's trying to be built here and you can almost
you know, see it just from every player, the way
they go out there and represent you know what I mean,
for the for the next man. You You you a
guy that we saw you get in the game a
week prior, made a key block on a touchdown by Terry.
You're kind of slaughtered. That's the third running back this week.

(54:47):
This past weekend. You you was number two up because
of somebody went down, because Austin went down. But you
couldn't tell me that you was a number two back
from what I saw. To me, I feel like that's
a part of the culture. That's that's what's being instilled
in you guys. Talk to us about the culture here.

Speaker 9 (55:01):
It's a brotherhood. You know, it's more than a game.
You know, we hang out with each other outside of football,
so it's not just about ball. You know, we're human too,
We friends, you know, we're family so on and off
the field. So make if that's my brother, I want
to play hard for him. I want to see him.
I want to see him whin. I want to see
him eat. I know he wants to see me eat.

(55:21):
So I think that's just the culture here. Just just
you know, do your one eleventh on the field and
then everybody everything else gonna happen for you.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
That's big time, man. Brother Brotherhood is important, man. We
talk about we talk about brotherhood. We talked about we
believe our running back room it's probably one of the
best in the league.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
Actually yourself, b Rob putting up numbers.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Coach Anthony Lynn, Man, Yeah, talk to me about it, man,
Like what what does he mean because we talk about
the players, but the staff is legit.

Speaker 9 (55:53):
Brother, Yeah, I mean just having a coach that's done
it before, you know that that's played, you know, it's
it means a little bit more. You know when he
tell you, hey, make this cut, you know he's done
it before.

Speaker 6 (56:04):
You know.

Speaker 9 (56:04):
It's just like, okay, like he sees something I might
not have seen on that play and then he just
wants us to go out there and win.

Speaker 6 (56:10):
You know, he's done it for a long time.

Speaker 9 (56:13):
He was a head coach, so you know he has
to respect to around the league as a respect from us.
So anything he says to us, it's just like, you know,
we're gonna listen and we're gonna we're gonna go, and
we want to play and we want to play for
it most importantly.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yeah, Okay, this is your seventh season in the NFL,
drafting twenty seven team by the Tapa Bay Buccaneers. But
you've had a kind of a long journey, yeah, playing
for us the Titans. The coach had two stitps with
the Titans. YEP, coach forty nine Ers Jaguars during that journey.
Man going through the up some dollars of that was

(56:45):
there ever a time He's just like, man, I don't
know if I want to keep.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Going through this.

Speaker 9 (56:50):
Uh yeah, I mean you get getting cut, you know,
ten fifteen times, like you know you I got in
the doghouse a little bit, you know, down.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 9 (57:00):
Just being able to just have a good team around me,
have good people around me, and just just doing you know,
the love of this game for me, and it's passionate
I had since a little little boy, you know, since
I was about eight years old.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
I wanted to do this, so, you know, just.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
Just making that little boy dream come true.

Speaker 9 (57:17):
And uh, that's just that's that's what gave me that
fight and that will to just keep going. You know,
people might not have believed or whatever it may, but
you know, I believe in myself more than any anything.
So uh that's what I hang my hat on through
those through those you know, dog days, whenever those opportunities come.
And yeah, that's that's why I played this game.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
I love this game.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Speaking of speaking up hanging your hat on something, before
we got to see you get those carriers this past weekend,
you know, we was talking about that excruciating block you had. Yeah,
besides the block and now we saw you can run
the ball. And I mean, and Bro that that second
touchdown that you made, I would try by you went

(58:03):
up in that thing and and gave that r Tom know,
but just saying that, you know, what I want to
bring up is what is something that you can say
you hung your hat on like ash, you know that
you want to be recognized for you're blocking, yeah, or
which we see now you can run that rock to

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the pill.

Speaker 9 (58:24):
I mean since pop one and my coach said, you
don't block, You're not getting the ball. You know, take
the quarterback, you ain't getting the ball. You know what
I'm saying. So since pop one, and that's what it's
being and that's why I just hung my hat on.
You know, even when I play white out, like well
there's a run player, I had to make sure I
go block the linebacker, go block to safety whatever it
may be, and then you know, then I can eve
when I touch the ball.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
So I like that mentatly, Bro, because people feel see
as players, there's certain players that feel like, well, I'm
running back, That's all I want to do, but they
don't understand, you know, how important is to be able
to be that back that can protect the quarterback beers third.
Now now you get more or you know, more opportunities,
you know what I'm saying. And that's the same high
I had as a receiver. You know, I saw plenty

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of receivers of my size, are smaller or even bigger
that wouldn't go in there and stick their head in
there when the ball wasn't coming their way and they
don't realize that will keep you on the team. You're
fourteen year fifteen, So no, I tip my head off
to you, you know for that, because that's that's not
being selfish, being selfless, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Yea, and being around the league seven years, you know,
you hear it, We hear Jaye Daniels man dog.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
Yeah, that's how you're gonna describe. So you've had the
chance to play with veteran quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
It's probably I'm assuming Jaden is the highest drafted young
rookie quarterback you play with.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
What's your expectations? What do you see from from him? Like,
what is it like? Man?

Speaker 9 (59:51):
I mean, since day one, you just get that energy
from him like he'll winner, you know, you know, he
want to go out there and fight and win. He's
here early, you know, late knows all the whole playbook.
You know, he encouraged us like it's a guy you
want to go out there and play for and play
play hard for. And I mean, you guys, see what
he's doing out there, you know, just going back. You know,

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I've been watching him since he was in high school,
just being from Cali, both from Keli, so he was
he was a little younger, but I kept up with him.
You know, I heard the buzz for for a minute,
and I mean nothing really changed. He's out there still balling,
and I'm just excited to see what he does the
rest of this year and you know, throughout his career.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
Speaking of Jaydon, I want to keep it on him.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
You know you talked about You've been hearing about him
from day one, from when he played ball in Cali.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
Came from San fran last year. Yes, fan, so you
got a chance to see Brock.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
So yeah, I just want to compare those two, not
not far as play, just the youth of them, you
know what I mean, being able to play. Do you
see a see a drop somewhere because I feel like
all the buzz we've been hearing about Jayden here is
this how much sure years, the things he's doing to
you know, staying in late, you know, coming in early,
staying staying late, just to make sure he has everything
to me. I think that's stuff that you hear about

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most veteran quarterbacks. That Tom Brady's the Peyton Manny's. You
know how you compare both of those guys when it
comes to you know, what Brock did to be successful
over there, you know with the forty nine ers and
what Jayden is doing now.

Speaker 9 (01:01:20):
I think, like you said, it's the maturity thing. I mean,
I forgot he was in year two last year.

Speaker 6 (01:01:26):
I didn't even know.

Speaker 9 (01:01:27):
Like he's walking around like a year you know, year ten,
like he's a he's a captain. You know, he controls
the huddle, same thing as Jayden. Like I think his
rookie year's done. Like I feel like you're on year
you know three or four right now. Like he got
he got the confidence, he got the maturity even kill,
like nothing's never too high and you know those low
moments that's really when you know who those players are.

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
Yeah, those low moments like he even killed, you know,
got that that dog.

Speaker 9 (01:01:54):
Yeah, nothing I remember, like even even on those fourth
down calls of those thirds down, He's like, let's go,
like like, let's go go for it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:02):
Like you could just see his eyes. I looked.

Speaker 9 (01:02:05):
I'm like, okay, yeah, we're about to go for you
know sometimes you know you see fourth and two, you know,
most of the guys start chating off the field.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
But now he like, let's go get Like what he said, coach,
Let's do what he said.

Speaker 9 (01:02:17):
So I give everybody the confidence and just that energy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
Just that's special.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
All right, real quick, speaking of dogs, you used to
you play this Snoop Dogs started.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Pop Water.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
You played Snoop Dogs youth football league growing up in
Cali Log Beach.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
What was it like playing in that league with Snoop Doggs?

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
It was cool? Man Like, you got to see him.
I mean, he a legend.

Speaker 9 (01:02:46):
You know, he's a worldwide legend. So just being able
to see him and you know the people he bring
around and just get those encouraging words and then you
know former guys that come around and talk to us
and you know, just be able to give us some
to just just get out the hood. Man like, just
being like give us some encouragement.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
You could see it.

Speaker 9 (01:03:04):
You know, you got a dream but actually being able
to see the guys and how this dreaming right right,
I could do that right, you know, to seeing the
d jacks and stuff come back like okay, I can
go do that. Like you know, he came from the
same city, all came from grew up the same you know,
similar ways. You know, just being had that tangible influence
is huge, all right, man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
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Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
Continued success.

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