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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to another edition of The Players Club. Man, we
got a full show for y'all fellas. Yeah, man, we're
gonna have our.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mid season review.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yes, we gotta preview the game against the Philadelphia Egles.
Don't look at our memories against the Philadelphia Egles. We're
gonna give out the doves of the first half of
the season. And we got Bobby Wagner by what you
call it, Bobby yellow jacket, Bobby yellow, Bobby yellow jacket,
Bobby gold jacket, whatever, Wilfrid sne.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
He's gonna be on the show.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And that's that's what we got for y'all on this
next edition of The Players Club.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
And Malayia.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
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Where our passion is your protection. We're gonna do something
a little different. Normally have dubs the other week, but
for this show, get my give my saying out. We're
(01:06):
gonna give dubs of the of the season, the mid
season so far after ten games, team is balling. What
has been your impressions of this team so far, Like
who would be who would you give your dubs of.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
The mid season? Two?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Well, for me, y'all been teaching me all year. But
that Frankie levou Man.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You gotta CRUs.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But Frankie levou Man and I seen him in training
and he's one of those guys, like you said, he
come out of the locker room. He's a dude and
we knew that he could play linebacker. I had no
idea learning if we talked about it each week.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Man, did you see that pass rush move?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Did you see his effort and and what he brings
to the table along with Bobby and the rest of
the defense. But I think he's that he's that dude
on that defense. And I've been really impressed with with
him and his performance weekend and week out and when
he's when he's there, Frankie lavou for me, louvu for me.
(02:10):
On the defense side of the ball, it's been great.
Are we talking about offenses as well? Or we just
think whatever, Yeah, he's my guy, and then on and
then and then on on the offense side of the ball.
Is we can talk about you know, Jade and I
want to say that for Santana, but b Rob Man
b Rob his and we had him on the on
(02:33):
the show early year and he's talking about turning it
up Week two Giants hunting thirty three yards. He's that
hammer catching out the backfield, doing everything we've we've asked
him do. Nicked up here and there, but for the
most part, man, I've been so impressed with that kid,
along with others, But for me, it was be robbing
the way he's been doing, the way he's been running
(02:53):
the ball behind that good offense line and everything setting
up give making people put one on one coverage for
the guy on the outside to eat.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But he's he was an ex fractor for me.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know, I think.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
It'd be obvious if I came out with an offensive guy,
or you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So I'm gonna let you guys have y'all way with.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
You because you know I bring it. When I bring it,
I make you really think about it.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I'm gonna make you put on your.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Thinking happens again for this one, And I got to
give credit. I'm going back to coaches, going back to coaches.
You know, I like to I like to give coaches
some praise. It's a guy who ain't give enough credit
to man.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think that is a.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
And what he's doing that special teams man, I mean
our special teams, you know, kickoff team, kickoff return team,
or a kicker.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
The way he's been he's being on.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
I mean as a core, this group is ranked in
the top three right now.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
You know, coming into the game a.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Few weeks ago, you had Pittsburgh and US ranked in
the top two. You know what I mean when it
comes special teams wise, So I think is it don't
get enough credit for what he's he's done up to
this point in the season. And that's that's the way
you win championships when you have offense, defense, and special
teams play on the same acord.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So I'm gonna get my dub.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I'm gonna get my mid season dub or the season
to Iszo Man. I think he's doing a tremendous job,
you know, as a coach, as a special teams coach,
and he got those guys flying. And I mean when
you see the kickoff team, even though they had that
little funky thing, they got to sit there and wait
for the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
To get the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
When when that person get the ball and thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Them boys are.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Smacking his They actually playing the way he played the game.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So I love to see it.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Man, I'll take the low hanging through since though we
got we're gonna talk about this team and the.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Jaydon Dallions, Man, Jay Dallions, it's you know, he's going
to be really good, you know, one of the highest
the trophy being drafted number two of all.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
For him to be playing at the level he's playing
so quickly.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
That but that's how why we were how we know
that because Bright Young won the highest you.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Know what I'm saying, I didn't think we didn't know
he was Let me remind when I say we knew
he was going to be good.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Eventually, we knew he was gonna play. We thought we
playing the high level. He's exceeded expectations.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
He's exceeded expectations, and it really is about the way
he's going about it from day one, from the first
time we interviewed it. Extremely impressed with him with the amility.
We've all been around rookies who haven't accomplished, accomplished nearly
as much as day that's accomplished, and they come in feeling.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That title big headed. I think they know everything.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
This kid man, he just goes out, plays ball, lights
defenses up, and.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, he's in the MVP conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I just Rookie the year, but the MVP conversation has
his team where we're sitting right now, and I keep
telling y'all, he's.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Only going to get better. That's the schedule about it.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Just to speaking to add a little bit, you talk
about humility.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
The kid told us after the hell Mary, when we
had them on Game Day Lives postgame show, he.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Says, that's God. He's like, I got to be living right,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
And the reason why I wanted to say that because
it's crazy you said humility. And the first thing I
thought about I wear I got a tattoo when I
was in high school.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It's a Bible scripture.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
And it's crazy because my one of my daughters just
got baptized. And then my oldest daughter the other day
just asked me like that, what are some of the
things can I pray about?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
How you teach me how to pray?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
And for her to be twenty plus, so she's twenty
actually and she wants to learn how to pray. And
you know, I always bothered them about that because I
told him, I've been praying since I was a little boy.
Like we didn't grow up in the church, but I'm
always praying. I'm praying when I get up, I'm praying
at night. And I was happy to hear her say
she want to learn, you know, and she wanted to
get closer to God. And I send her a scripture,
the scripture that I got tattooed on me, and it
(06:53):
says it's James fourteen, and it said, humble yourself before
the Lord, and he will lift you up.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And I told her I walk with that, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
And everybody wanted the tan of why you're so soft
sport while you so humble, while you take on That's
been my life.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I didn't try to be humble. It was born in me.
It was instilling me.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
And as I was coming up to learn myself a
little bit, I found the scripture that identify that, you know,
identified with So listening to him say that about the
Lord and about living right to watch him play, it's
not a It's not a surprise to me why he's
successful because he knows a higher power and he believes
in and he's doing the right things to get itself
(07:30):
prepared because you know, one of the things about opportunity
is the preparation part of Like, if you're not gonna
pare it for the opportunity, then.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
You're gonna fail, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
So you can say everything he did up to this point,
he prepared itself to have these moments, and that's why
you know, you got to give it up to him.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You also thinking about the another dub of the weak
of who I give dub of the being seasoned?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So I got to give it to.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
The ownership group, and the reason I give it to
the ownership group. And you know, they've done a they've
done a tremendous job and all the things they've added
around not just here but also at the stadium and
fan experience and trying to make things better. But I'll
go back to the process they went through first and
foremost and hiring Adam Peters. Yes, they had, they had,
(08:16):
they had a plan, you know, Josh Harris leading that obviously,
and him in the process that he went through, having
bringing in Bob Myers and having Rix Bildman as guys
who helped him through that process. And you know he
allos other sports teams, and he knew he'd hired general
managers and head coaches before and all that, but knowing that, hey,
(08:38):
this is this is a different element. Football is different
than basketball, or different than soccer, whatever the case may be.
Let's bring in some other people to help me with
this process and identifying Adam Peters and from there Adam
Peters and ownership, hiring Dad Quinn and putting that together.
And for this to come together so quickly, you have
(08:59):
to it's ahead of schedule. There's no other their head schedule.
And then what we are right now.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And to that point, the trades, Yeah, the trades and
some of the guys who bought and free agency. We
talked about bringing Bobby early. Bobby was in that veteran leadership, uh,
trading for trading for Marshaun, you know, before the deadline
when we needed until we talked about what that meant
for the organization and drafting j Those three, those three,
(09:27):
those three moves along are life.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The draft pick, not.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Even talking about that trade, that trade with Johann Johnson.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh yeah, earlier in the season.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I mean that right there was puzzling at first, but
then when you look at the whole you know, picture
of what they're looking for in the receiver and what
they got for it was. It was basically helpful too,
because you think about we.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Lost the third, but that third. Having that third kind
of gave us that third back.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So, oh man, you're right, Cliff Kingsbury, this is all sirus. Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You know, he was a head coach at Arizona a'm
out of college with the air raid offense, and it was,
you know, a different type of offense coming to the league.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And Cliff, there was.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A during the preseason we used to have him on
like once a week we'd have the coaches. We had
him on a conference call, and he talked about having
these other coaches from these different backgrounds. Yep, having coach
LeAnn having uh Brian Johnson, who was the offensive coordinator
came from with the from Philly and kind of bring
bringing that all together and creating the Washington Commander's offense
(10:30):
and him just saying, hey, when I came to the league,
all I had was my offense from Texas Tech, right,
and now creating an NFL offense. Y'all surprised about how
how this offense is operated and come together so quickly
and being able to not just coming together but producing
the way that they're.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well, you're absolutely right, because the air raid offense traditionally
like doesn't have the feel of that. You know, you
run a stretch play and stuff like that, but in
the counters and you don't have the vertical passing the
vertical passing game get the ball out. But it seems
like there's a special combination of the run game pair
(11:11):
with their past game mixing that we understand the talent
that we've had in getting those guys. We got a Hammer,
we got a third down back, we got Terry, we
got Zach, the line, and then the run game complements
the line and all whole, all whole, bringing Jayden along,
(11:32):
and we've seen Jaden just continue to get better from
each one each week. So I would say I'm surprised.
But when you think about Brian, Coach Lynn and the staff,
and it's the right combination because he was quarterback WI Springford, Philly,
Brian was with Jalen, and Coach Lynn is a monster
in the run game and Clifford is just a genius guy.
(11:54):
So I just think it's like, like you said, dude,
that's a it's a beautiful mix of personality.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
I won't say I'm surprised. I had no expectations. I
really didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I knew.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
One thing that that stood out to me is when
I saw Cliff in his stint as a head coach,
his running game always was second to none. You got
to think about it. Connor was over there killing him
was he was? And so with that in mind, the
first thing came to mind. That's why I was barking
up the you know, telling everybody the whole year, I
can't wait to see be Robbs because knowing that everybody
(12:28):
know what we're going to do offensively with the just
the air raid attack and thinking that that's how it's
going to be or how it's going to look, he's
going to get to that run game. It allows him
to show us week in and week out how special
this offense could be. And I think he spent a
lot of time with the guys that he brought around.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You think about it. We brought the Johnson.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Coach, we brought them from Philly, you brought in and
you talked about Lynn. You know, all these coaches have
been in good offenses and had their role in why
that offense was special, and now you bring it to here.
It's a copycat league. You know, we want a lot
of game aims doing things that other teams did. So
I think altogether, man, it's it's a unity of coaches that's.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Putting their head together.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And but Cliff getting a lot of credit for and
he and they're doing a damn good job.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Another coach has done our standing job bringing some guys together.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Joe with Jr.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Hissic coordinators love love, Joe has his press conferences.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
He he keeps Obama, Obama the football version.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Let the man talk.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I want to just let him go.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
For him to be at a You think about how
the defense was first couple of weeks, how they started off,
and then how he's been able to.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Take this defense to another level.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Get everything he's got out that pass rush. Those guys
who are like, all right, we're gonna get the pass
from your boy, Frankie Louvu obviously.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Uh. You know, other guys have emerged. Newton emerged, Newton Fire,
the Foller has emerged, Cleveland Fair or Armstrong. You know
a bunch of guys.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Bobby what he blessed his and then getting the guys
on the back end the communicating play a lot better.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
You guys both play defense, and I'm gonna just tell
you my perspective of watching defenses and playing against them,
it's very seldom that you see a defense that shows
you who they are.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
And got better.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Yeah, shows you a completely new defense later in the season. Now,
don't get me wrong, they might be a little fine
tune on some of the things that they didn't do well,
but you never see them just like, what the hell
did that come from?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
So to see these guys come out and you're like, Okay,
damn what we thought we was weak at. So that's
what I give a lot of credit to these guys
for as a whole, because it seems to me that
as much as we want to talk about these players
and how well they're playing, it all stems from the coaching.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It all stems from.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
What they building and how they created this thing, this
bond of brothers and the culture that they're setting. I
can just imagine I want to be a fly on
the wall one day. I want to go in the
room and I want to hear or see one of
these coaches speaking to somebody who didn't show up in
a run fit, or who didn't or who didn't go
out and block a guy blocked the safety, you know
as a receiver.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I just want to see what he's saying to him.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Because I can imagine it already that he let them
know he can't win like that.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You ain't being a dog right now.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
What I was impressed with when we and why I
figured the defense would get better London.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We saw in camp when we were working camp, they.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Went the individual, then they went to two on two drill,
you know, then seven on seven this situational you know team.
But what was the first I think me and you
both were impressed, Well, like man, they were really breaking
the game down and teaching football, you know what I
mean teaching And we was up there looking like man,
(15:48):
look they're working on the in and out drill and
man coverage. They're doing switch routes, or they're working on
breaking on the heads and or they're doing this. So
that was I knew at the defense with coach would
eventually get get better. They would communicate more, Bobby and
all the team will come together. That's freegingson do well
what feelings you know.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
It's that time. Let's start drive time, Rive time to drive.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
It's time for drive Time, presented by Eastern Automotive Crew,
Any car, anyway for everyone since nineteen eighty eight. This week,
we're gonna talk about some of our funnest memories man,
going against those Eagles. Yeah, when you see a team
twice a year, you have a lot of I just
hate you have a lot of memories. And it's crazy, man,
to be honest with you, as much as we talk
(16:34):
about our division, to me, I hate the other two
teams more than I hate the Eagles, and the Eagles
fan base is just the worst of them all.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
But I found some kind of love for the h.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
I don't hate them as much as I hate the
Cowboys and the Giants.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
The Eagles I just like, Okay, they the Eagles I love.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I love going to the Philly player because of their fans.
Because I was about to go auhead and shut.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Y'all up, I felt like a gladiated against I was
gonna say, I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
When the fan and for you fans who don't know this, when.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
You're booing specifically at me, I understand I'm a threat.
So when I hear eighty nine they called me out,
your mama.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Did guess what.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I know.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I'm a threat to you. You you can't watch me.
You spending that hard earned money on watching me today.
So it gets me a little. I'm gonna get you
what you're looking.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'm gonna tell you how how bad the Eagles fans are.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Again.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I loved it because I just like that type of batality.
First time you played the Monday night football. This is
old seven. I can't hear they throwing heads at our bus,
these type of It was a couple of seasons. Fast
forward a couple of years later and I knocked out
two of the Eagles. I knocked out the runner back
of that Brive Westbrook and the crazy thing. He hit
(17:54):
his head on my knee and he had a concussion.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
He was out.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Then I caught uh Sean Jackson on the dig lady
by the middle field. He he had he didn't finish
the game. This is all in one season. But I
got death threats for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I mean, we can laugh about it. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I'm still here, so they didn't, you know, yeah, carry
it out, but it's just like, damn, because I a doctor.
A couple of y'all players out there, Man, I wanted
to I'm trying to.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
It shows you how much how much these games mean
to some of these fans. Speaking of meaningful games, Man, London,
you was, I believe you was calling this game in
twenty twenty one when we went up there today.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Night football game.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was twenty twenty two, twenty one.
It was a little recap, man, about the feeling what
you saw that that night. I mean, you had you
had an Eagles team that was riding high. They hadn't
all the game. They were defeated, you know what I'm saying.
They hadn't lost the game.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Man.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
We went out there with the mentality that we see
from our team now, you know what I mean. These
guys better than Beauty and nobody.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, just remembering that game, I think they were eleven
and if memory sarves me correctly, I don't know what
our record was, but it was the mindset of the
game plan we went into that game, and if we
didn't run it forty times, we ran it.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Close to forty times. And I can remember all there.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I mean, it was just a thing of beauty because
we had been up until that point throwing the football alive,
you know, trying to get the passing game going. But
in that game, I was like, man, this looked like
the Redskins.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Right, this looked like the Hogs.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean they just poled b Roberts running that ball
all over them.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Its just it was just a physical mindset, the physicality
of that ball game. It was you talk about the thing.
It was a thing of beauty.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Watch we had. I think we had four turnovers in
that game.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I remember foot and they caught it.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Was.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
It was.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
It was a bunch of takeaways, man, it was a
bunch of It was a bunch of takeaways in that
ball You.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Just remember those games like, yeah, oh yeah, we went
in there, A force made a.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Tremendous like almost like a Willie Mays type intercept. I
think it was the Willy Mays interception or somebody else,
Saint Juice I think knocked the ball out that Ford's recovered.
It was just, man, it was a place being matter
that game.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Some of your favorite Eagles matchups, Man, oh.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Man, I tell you my favorite Eagle match out we
had here. We played them on a Sunday night. I
think I'm you know, we're talking about that later. But
t O and I was matched up on t O
and we were getting after him, and I remember him running.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Old run about.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Five played the month Sunday Night football.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I hit him, popped the ball up, and then Sean
hit somebody else.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Knowing that we are facing these guys at their home
on Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
What's like playing there?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Man?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I mean I remember the old what.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
It was called the bet Yeah, yeah, that was not
like the other.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
You know what I mean? But does this new stadium
have that same kind of shot?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Sean? You you had to play.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
In the vet when they had the little you was you?
Was you by the time you got leave.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
When the filter.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Was like this, I thought you, I thought you.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I know, you know all. But guess what to we played?
Speaker 5 (21:41):
We played against the Owls Temple.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
You know that that turf was terrible, terrible, terrible I've had.
I think I may have played the Eagles more than
any teams teame of my career because when I was
the same Lewis, we played them, played me in the
NFC Championship game, played them a couple of times during
the regular season.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You against Andy Reid, huh yeah, Andy Reid, big flet
that's mind for a big fletch.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I used to get after the Eagles many I wasn't
the fair favorite of probably the Eagles players and coaches
because I don't believe in making friends on the on
the field. I talk, I talk all the time about
there was no peace treaty. I don't before a game.
I'm not talking to you. I don't care if me
and you grew up together from from little league when
(22:35):
we stepped between these white no, not even we ain't
even got to between the white lines.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Soon you come out of tunnel, as soon as I
know we're playing that week. Soon A man, we ain't.
I'm not your friends. There is no communications.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I don't want a small I don't want a small
talk with you before the game. I don't want to
exchange jersey with you after the game. You're still the enemy.
Ain't no chumming it up matter I want. I'm here
for blood.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Tonights gonna be some blood. It's gonna be some blood.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
It's gonna be some I'm actually looking forward to more
so now just knowing, because you know, I was skeptical
about just where we was at corner wise, and I'm
not saying that our corners haven't been playing good or
playing up to, you know, the level that they're supposed to.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
But I know when you have a guy like a J.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Brown and DeVonta Smith, you you need more than just one.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So we got obviously Brian who was quarterback culture after
Eagles and he's in stall some stuff, but he also
knows that does that give an advantaged way with one
way or the other.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Brought up, brought that up, I forget all about that.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I just mentioned him, and I forgot that having him
here will give us a little keys on what they
do offense the receivers. That's definitely gonna be a big help.
And now that you say that, along with who we
just brought in, I'm looking forward to that matchup for
the measure for that standpoint only, but I just I
feel like this is one of those matchups man, where
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even though I've heard a lot of people signing with,
you know, with the Eagles, I feel like I'm happy
to be on that spot. I'm happy to be in
that space because I understand what we're doing here. You
know what we're what we're creating here, and I think
this team is gonna be more than ready man to
go out there, man, and go out there.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
And really and have a nice showcase of some good
divisional football.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
This is a great segue and to set the talk.
Great great segue to set the talk, because we're.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Gonna we're gonna actually talk about the Eagles is even
more detailed.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So it's time to set the tone.
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this Eagles defense man top five and total yards top ten,
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yards allowed, tear the total points per game. They playing
some defensive Remember they got a new defensive coordinator, Vic Fangio,
and he's been an architect of some great defenses.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
He don't play.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
How we're gonna be able to move the ball, score, points,
rush against these Eagles, we just can't.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
We can't brush over that.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
For the folks out there about Fangio, Fangio is is
somebody that's a nightmare that you need to prepare for.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So just to give him a little bit of background,
Vic Fangil was the defensive coordinator for the forty nine
ers when they went to what for NFC Championship Championship State.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I mean he's he's his other other defenses as well. Yeah,
he's like the father of one of the one of
the old GI's, one of the ol g's.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And this is this to me, will probably be the
best defense we faced. Yeah, from a scheme wise and
just talent wise, so, but not a defense that we
can't we can't do some things to but it's gonna
be one of those like, hey, for the first time
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we might have a defense, try to dictate some things
to us. And I think all the first half of
the year and the whole most of the year we've
been out there is trying to say, all right, we're
gonna read off of this, we're gonna run past option
off this, and we're gonna go we're gonna attack you here.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Now.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
We gotta be a little bit of like like how
we're gonna scheme them up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
We scheme them all up.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But do we have to again, I don't believe in
peace treaties, man, we gotta we still got to going there.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Like I hear him, talking, but no, no, no, no, when
when when?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
When I say that, meaning like there's some defenses that
do what they do and then there's fangio you don't
always know what they do. That's what I mean by
I said it's like first time, like everybody has been
a page, Like he gonna throw some looks at you.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
You ain't. You definitely definitely make your heart old Jayden
from a cover standpoint cover.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Standpoint, And then you've got to just also compare what
you've seen are already on film. I mean, they've been
susceptible in all those areas where they're tough at People
have scored on them, people have ran the ball on
them basketball. So it's like any other defense, you just
got to go out there. You haven't saw us yet,
We haven't seen you yet. We watch each other on film,
that's all we see. That's all we know until we
get out there on the field together. Then we really know.
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You know what can be done and what can't be
done against them. And that's what I think is gonna
ball down to.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's it's it's the physicality, the physical physicality of this
ball game, both sides of the ball, the two trenches,
they got they got an excellent offensive line.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You know, they got an excellent defense.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
But just looking at our our defense against their offense,
having the stop of Saku Bark, I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
To giants let him go to the division that is
like I want to do jumping backwards on the brow
you're gonna jumping.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I was trying to explain it and the best way
I can as a ball carrier, because I've been in
a situation where you and that you and your bag
so much with your moves to where the next move
you didn't even expect to do it, but.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It just came, and I'm like, that's incredible to have.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
It's almost like he wanted to spin and saw buddy,
and it's like, let me jump and split. It was
just man, bro, It's almost like he praised this thing
that was like some matrix.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Like he paused in the air.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Here's the crazy thing. He had just hit somebody with.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Spin gave y'all, y'all see the Nike. Uh they put
the witness backwards. You ain't see the Nike. He would Yeah,
I already made it a marketing there. Yeah, so they
got they got him jumping backwards, and you know how
I said Witness, how they used to do with the
UH with the Nike logo with Lebron so they got
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the Witness spelled backwards like logo backwards.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
That's when you coach. That's when you when you but
to your point where they when you see a kid
can do something like that. You're talking about being in
your bag and movies like that.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Everybody to the ball, and we're gonna have to be
relentless and our purshoot to the ball, and we're gonna
have to get after that.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
And you gotta think just what he did for the
Giants last year when the Giants was crap, you know
what I mean, Like he was the reason in both
of those games where we lost.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
The game, you know what I mean at it from
the standpoint, that's why you go out. You give Marshawn Latamo,
you get you get corners that can Hey, I can
put more resources to stop to the sae Quon Barkley.
That's why I mentioned Hey, yeah, the past defense. He
brings a great element to the past defense. But also
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he should improve our run defense because now I can
I can leave my corners out there a little bit
more on the high land because I need. I need
an eighth man in that box. I the safety. I
need they run some RPOs. I need somebody ready to
tackle Jalen Hurst if he decides to keep that ball.
So it's gonna be a great great chess matchup out
(29:53):
of a chill man, I missed them LC's battles.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah, this is one where you you know, when you
you know, sometimes you get the feeling when you're going
to the game. You get it before the stadium something.
You're starting to get it, like you get it on Monday.
You get that feeling like okay, you can just feel
it in at practice, like there's some energy, and it
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is some energy this week for this game.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I think n f C alone, I mean, just start
division alone. And this is it goes for any division
you ever played in. When you're playing against a team
that you that you know well and they know you
will it's almost like getting ready for that relative that
come over on special holidays that you can't stand.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Like you know how.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
We all did, and so it's just like damn, I
gotta deal with this, you know again, and so like
you you're going you're gonna have your best jokes ready
for him.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You're gonna have your best whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You know, I got a cousin. I can't stay at
this joker. You took me that time.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah, bro, I'm telling you to.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Man. Yeah, I need the therapy. I'm gonna have to
sit on the conc my cousin.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
This is because of that. We grew up down there
in the same house. So I see you more than
just on the every holiday. That's something every oh man,
this dude gets some damn nerds. But anyway, let's digress.
Looking at this game, how would you Blue, how would
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you defere Deavonte Smith to day J.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Brown by going out and there what we did?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
When when you drafter, uh, Mike Sinstril, you have Forbes,
you have Saint Juice, you have a lot of more.
It's one, it's just sheer talent. And two, the pre
and POSTNP reads for a quarterback when they have explosive players,
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it's critical. I don't think people understand how much that
helps guys in the back end and shore a shirtain.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Look, we talk about it all the time, so elaborate
on pre snap.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
So the pre snap look is what the quarterback sees
before the ball is snap. So seeing too high safeties,
he now thinks could we could be in zone, but
for some for some reason, he's probably gonna see it's
two half of the two guys on half of the field.
Right now, we know on post snap that can go
down to a single one of the safeties can cover
the tight end or whatever, and we can go man.
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But it doesn't automatically means that we're gonna be a
man and they can just line up and say I'm
go right here to the backside. So I think the
pre and post snap unity and how they move together
and how they play, it's gonna be critical, and it's
gonna be we gotta get pressure on We don't have
to get pressure on you. We can cover them, but
we ain't gonna cover them all day. They're gonna make
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some place. And but the confidence that we bring with
the secondary and the guys that we got in the secondary,
that's why you go. That's why we get first round corners,
That's why we get guys that that is just confident
playing in the slot.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And that's why we wanted we didn't free.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Agency anybody kind of You can think about this this matchup,
who you think gotta shot in this game? Who's gonna
shine it of the ball. It doesn't offensive defensively well shine.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Well, you know the thing that I love what I've
been seeing.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
When you have a quarterback like what we have, you
got a receiver that's very confident, you gotta you gotta
receiver that did it with twelve other guys at that
same position where it wasn't coming to him. Now he
has a guy that he's building a whole chemistry with
and he they understand each other, the team allowing him
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to be vocal enough to go out there. One of
the things that I knew from watching Terry go up
against the Eagles, the Eagles got a pretty nice, pretty
piece of talent out there at Conaback. That's what he
never played well against Terry. Terry always have his numbers.
So just knowing what Terry had done with other guys
like Heineke and you know, Alex and all those guys
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for him to go out there and be productive. And
I can't say it's Alex name out dare As like
he's a slouch either either one of those guys wasn't
that you know Alex though he wasn't himself, but he's
still he was shot when he played you know that
one year when he came back, but I will say
what he's done so far this year, man, I'm really
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looking forward to seeing Terry finish this season now, just
knowing that what he's built, he's only gonna get.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Better with it, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
I mean, this is this is like scratching the surface
right now, what him and Jayden Dames has built. And
I know he's gonna be chopping at the bitch knowing
that that boil cross the crossed away from him.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I had nightmare es up. But I think he's gonna
be the guy.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
I think offensively, he's gonna be a guy like I say,
we can always say five because five is the guy, you.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Know what I mean, But he's the guy for all us.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
And then.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
It's gonna be interesting too. Man.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I think I offer is the line again. You know,
I'm gonna mention them because they keep rising. You know,
every time we get somebody in front of them that's
supposed to be world beaters, they find a way to
contest you together, form that vote, run and be hard
to stop. And that's what we've been seeing for some
of these games.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
Man.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
The only way we are productive offensively, the way we
are is because of those guys up front.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
So you know, I'm looking for them to be stars
that night Blue.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Who are you thinking?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Who you think they shining prime time? Man, It's gonna
have to be the front getting after that Jaalen. Yeah,
because as much as we talk about our guy Jalen Had,
I mean he's since he's been in the league, and
they had a tough stretch last year, but before I
think he went on like a twelve or thirteen game
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win Street. So I think it's gonna have to be
the guys up front. But Newton has been coming on
the replacement with ja I mean, the guy's Fouler and Cleveland,
all these guys gonna have.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
To get after him because he's the mobile quarterback.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
So we're almost playing a mirror image of kind of
what they and and and and they're tough guys who
can run and throw.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Are a tough challenge for the D line, But for me, it's.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
The D line.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I'll say the I'm gonna include the linebackers and I'm
say the front seven because I think you gotta I'm
taking away first and foremost, I'm taking away him, and
I'm gonna force Jalen.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Hurst to beat me. Now, he may be able to
do that.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
But given picking my poison, so to speak, one dimensional,
I'm making one dimension because one thing about Jalen he
will give you opportunities. Yes, make interceptions on the ball
and throw it up. I want to allow myself to
put get pressure on the quarterback making make mistakes throwing
the football. But I gotta start with stopping stopping sakuon Barkley.
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Bobby Mann. We appreciate you. Jordan's Jay so first time.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
You spent the majority of your career, with all of
your career out on the West Coast, played for the
Seahawks for a long period of time one year in LA.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Came all the way across the country to the East coast.
How has it been for you?
Speaker 9 (40:27):
It's been good man. I think the fans have been great.
There's been a lot of love. I said, I think
the hardest part is like trying to watch a basketball
game or trying to watch any sports at night because
everything comes on at like ten thirty or midnight. So
that's been the biggest judgment. Outside of that, it's been
loved like DQ's made it real cool for.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You've mentioned your off camera you said you're a Lakers
fans fan. So you got a chance the other night
to go to the game with Jade and bark Eye,
one of the owners, and also Jade's mom.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
What was it like being was that your first that
my first Worchards game?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
What was that experience like?
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Now?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
It was cool.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
It was cool seeing everybody out there. I didn't realize
how tall everybody was, you know, like everybody like seven
foot like I thought. I thought Steph was like my
highest sixty four. Yeah, he looked small standing next to
everybody else, but uh now it was cool watching those
young guys play, and they kept up with him for
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
But you know, Golden State showed their maturity.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Speaking of you know, you just spoke about Dan a
minute ago, seeing how he made everything easy. What was
it like knowing that she was going to be a
part of a team that structured by Dan Quinn?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Again?
Speaker 5 (41:35):
I remember, you know, last year seeing you in Seattle,
seemed like you went back home and you was happy
and comfortable.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
But a year later you back with a guy who
meant a lot to your career.
Speaker 9 (41:44):
Yeah, I think you know, there's a lot of similarities
between how Pete kind of run it and how DQ
run it. But DQ, I definitely feel over Thomas has
found his voice, found how he wanted to do things,
and between him and coach Norton, like they've they've made
this transition smooth just because we've been around each other
for a long time. I think North coach me at
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least I think nine out of my thirteen years, and
so I've been around him for a while and DQ
we've always been in touch, So it's kind of like
you know, in a way coming back home with family.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I've been around it for a minute, So they know
what to expect from you.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
They know what to expect. I know what's expect from them.
Speaker 9 (42:22):
The communication is fluid, like we know how to talk
to one another, we know how to get each other going.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
So it's cool.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
So one of the things that when I first I
first seen you in Seattle when I went back, and
one of the first things, even as a rookie, the
first thing everybody in the organizations talk about, like this
dude gets he's a professional.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Like how does that happen where you're rook in the league.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
What was the mentality like coming into the league that
this guy's prepares, he's a professional, he studies, he does everything.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
Man, I just been you know, I watched the game.
Speaker 7 (42:52):
Man.
Speaker 9 (42:52):
So when I when I first got it here as
a rookie, I knew what it meant to be a rookie.
Like I knew I had to like pay my dues.
I knew I had to, you know, do all the
running around for the vest, but also like learn from them.
Like a lot of times I feel like sometimes people
come in and they think they know everything right, and
it's like this is a new experience. Like when I
came in, I kind of considered myself like a freshman
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type of jail, and I had a bunch of seniors
that was trying to teach me the way, and the
people that grew the fastest was the ones that be
quiet and learned.
Speaker 6 (43:20):
So I just try to do that.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I'm glad you brought up, you know, being a student
of the game.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
And I've shared this story a couple of times about
how you reached out to me on social media back
when I think it was about two twenty fourteen, I
was retired. You reached out to me, didn't We hadn't
talked to each other prior to that, didn't know each other.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
You reach out to me just like, hey man, love
that love it? You know, pick your brain.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, you know about the middle lineback position. I also
know other people in the business world. They've told me
you've contacted them like cold calls. You also contact the
other former NFL linebackers.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
What did that?
Speaker 6 (43:58):
Like?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Self? Where with self? Where does this come from? And
be like, man, you know what, let me tap into
these people who are doing things that I want to do.
And do it at a higher level.
Speaker 9 (44:09):
H Honestly, I don't know. I think maybe I got
it from like Kobe or something. I think I heard
read a story where Kobe would like co call people yeah,
and you know, my mind said is like the worst
thing you do is say no, Like, you know, if
I reach out and you know, you want to show love,
then I get information. If I don't, then I don't.
But like you'll never know unless you ask. And so
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I think that's kind of where that came. I know
for sure the business side came from, like stuff that
I've heard Kobe do. But you know, football wise, is
just like I've been a fan of the game and
I know who who is great, and I know the
people that played this game at a high level for
a long time, and like why not try to, you know,
reach out there, reach out and learn again. Like I said,
the worst case is going to be like either don't
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respond or be like I ain't got the time. But
at least at least they know I'm out there. So
that's that's kind of where that came from. Just wanting
to continue, you know, being a student of the game.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Speaking of being a student of the game, I'm not
sure if I heard right, but I think someone mentioned
that you're back in school too.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
While you're down here.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
Think about that. Yeah, you and Howard, I mean, Howard, how.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
How was that juggling school and playing, you know, this
first season here in d c Uh.
Speaker 9 (45:18):
It's funny because I always used to complain about having
the you know, it was in college, like having the
balance you know, uh, school work in football, and then
I'm in the league and I volunteer to.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
Go you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (45:30):
But it's cool. I mean, you know, a lot of
it is just reading the numbers. I do that all
the time. You know, it's more of a structured version
of it. So that's kind how I look at it.
I feel like I'm I'm good with balancing my time
and and this is just like continue my learning.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
That's all it is. I don't think it, you know,
I had.
Speaker 9 (45:46):
The only thing I had to get used to is
like testing, you know what I mean, Like they just
try to trick you know, never straightforward, you know.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
So outside of that has been Little.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Legion and Boom.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
Obviously, you played on one of the greatest defenses with
some status, right, so we get a lot of more
and adding to defense that's getting better. Yeah, you know
that was a great defense that you played on. What
do you what are some of the similarities that you
see with this Washington team?
Speaker 2 (46:12):
How we get there?
Speaker 4 (46:13):
How could we be like a dominant defense like Legion Boom,
Because remember, y'all all were young when y'all first started.
Speaker 9 (46:19):
I think I think the thing that made us so
special was that we were young, and so when we
came into when we came into the league, like it
was almost like college again.
Speaker 6 (46:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (46:30):
It was when we got done playing, done practicing, we
just stayed at the stay at the facility, or we
was like, hey let's go get some food or let's
play the game or something. We just spent so much
time together that were just connected and that connection got
brought on the field. So you know, yes, brother, you
know what I mean. So it's like, you know, you
in Cover three and maybe you should have this and
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certainly like, hey go take a chance on that. Like
I got your back and you're like, all right, you
do that enough time to where like you ain't gotta
say I just look at you. And so for me,
I would say the comparison is that the connection. I
think a lot of the guys here we're really connected
like off the field, and I think that's what, you know,
makes us believe that we can get there if we
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just keep going at it because we have the connection
that you would need to be a good defense and
so it's just really just growing on that.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I had an opportunity in my career. I played with
some excellent linebackers. My favorite teammate, best other linebacker I
played with was to kill spikes. We're both from Buffalo together,
and it would be times before the ball was snapped.
Yeah we know, like this high is drawn up, but
key do this. I got you, I got you back whatever.
You and Frankie, y'all both came in here together this year.
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Y'all been out there ball and that job if you
and have been able to have that build that type
of chemistry where y'all y'all playing off each other. And
what is it like playing playing with a guy like frank.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
I mean, it's exactly like that.
Speaker 9 (47:54):
I think one we knew each other because he used
to work out in Seattle at the same spot we
worked out, so we knew of each other. But then
he started playing on the East Coast, so I didn't
we see him as much, but then when we came here,
it was just like dang, like we've always wanted to
do this, Now we get to do it. And it
was just again just like the open communication off the field.
We'd be out there and it's like, hey, what you think.
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I think we can make a play.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (48:17):
And it's the trust, Like you, we trust one another
and we believe and we put in the work. You know,
we study the film. It's not like we're just guessing,
like we know what's coming. And so it's been great
playing with him.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
One of the you know, you know one of the
things I saw, you know, saw from day one. I
was just going through your little bio and I was like, man,
you was on that twenty twelve team that played us
in the playoffs that we lost RG three.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, bring up old Yeah he's still talking about.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
It, but I remember you was a vocal like you
was a guy that we checked on, be mindful where
he at, you know what I mean. So just to
know that you were young and now this is what
you're thirteen You say thirteen, you're thirteen I got to
play fourteen thirteen thirteen, so just to see where we
was at. And I remember how I felt, I'm watching you.
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You don't look no different from the guys saw twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
What was that and what is that process like for you?
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Like?
Speaker 5 (49:09):
How are you able to maintain you know? I guess
you know your do ability to be able to go
out there and.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Bang what you do?
Speaker 6 (49:16):
I think.
Speaker 9 (49:18):
I think as you get older, you just know that
like when you were younger, you might could take some
breaks and you be fine. You get older, like whenever
the season ends, I don't stop, I go to something else,
I start working out again. Because the moment the longer
you stop working out, the harder it is to get
back in shape. So I just figure it's a lifestyle.
I'm not getting out of shape. And between like my eating,
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I do a lot of yoga. I just take the
time to try to take care of my body. I
think that's the biggest thing is is especially now as
a season gets into the holidays where you got his
givings and the families.
Speaker 6 (49:53):
And the Christmases.
Speaker 9 (49:54):
A lot of times guys be like, all right, well
I'm gonna spend time with my family, and they stopped
doing and some of the things that they was doing.
So I just be trying to be consistent, and I
feel like that's that's what's helped me. I do the
same things, I eat the same things all.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
The time, many playing at a very high level and
nothing changed.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Uh, it's gonna be it.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I was watching so obviously I call the game.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Santas Tanner does the pre and post game, and I'll
go back and I might watch rewatch the game two
or three times, and I'm looking at you and I'm like, damn,
you make some plays like how the hell did he
slip that lineman and make this tackle?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Like I'm look, you look like you out a position,
like you're not gonna be able to do it. I'm
marvel at you, man, And I know I know you
you dipping at my butt on some of my records,
Like I'm trying you know when. I like that because
that'll keep me relevant.
Speaker 6 (50:48):
Come on, man, and I make sure I do my part. Yeah,
I appreciate it that.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
We appreciate you coming on and joining us. We have
all our guests signing this football fors man. If you
wouldn't mind doing that, man, we can't wait to see
you can see what the rest of the season brings
for not just you, but this team as a whole.
We got him walking many all right, So.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
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you next week, same time.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mid season review.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yes, we gotta preview the game against the Philadelphia Egles.
Don't look at our memories against the Philadelphia Egles. We're
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
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Where our passion is your protection. We're gonna do something
a little different. Normally have dubs the other week, but
for this show, get my give my saying out. We're
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gonna give dubs of the of the season, the mid
season so far after ten games, team is balling. What
has been your impressions of this team so far, Like
who would be who would you give your dubs of.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
The mid season? Two?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Well, for me, y'all been teaching me all year. But
that Frankie levou Man.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You gotta CRUs.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But Frankie levou Man and I seen him in training
and he's one of those guys, like you said, he
come out of the locker room. He's a dude and
we knew that he could play linebacker. I had no
idea learning if we talked about it each week.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Man, did you see that pass rush move?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Did you see his effort and and what he brings
to the table along with Bobby and the rest of
the defense. But I think he's that he's that dude
on that defense. And I've been really impressed with with
him and his performance weekend and week out and when
he's when he's there, Frankie lavou for me, louvu for me.
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On the defense side of the ball, it's been great.
Are we talking about offenses as well? Or we just
think whatever, Yeah, he's my guy, and then on and
then and then on on the offense side of the ball.
Is we can talk about you know, Jade and I
want to say that for Santana, but b Rob Man
b Rob his and we had him on the on
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the show early year and he's talking about turning it
up Week two Giants hunting thirty three yards. He's that
hammer catching out the backfield, doing everything we've we've asked
him do. Nicked up here and there, but for the
most part, man, I've been so impressed with that kid,
along with others, But for me, it was be robbing
the way he's been doing, the way he's been running
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the ball behind that good offense line and everything setting
up give making people put one on one coverage for
the guy on the outside to eat.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But he's he was an ex fractor for me.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know, I think.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
It'd be obvious if I came out with an offensive guy,
or you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So I'm gonna let you guys have y'all way with.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
You because you know I bring it. When I bring it,
I make you really think about it.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I'm gonna make you put on your.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Thinking happens again for this one, And I got to
give credit. I'm going back to coaches, going back to coaches.
You know, I like to I like to give coaches
some praise. It's a guy who ain't give enough credit
to man.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think that is a.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
And what he's doing that special teams man, I mean
our special teams, you know, kickoff team, kickoff return team,
or a kicker.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
The way he's been he's being on.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
I mean as a core, this group is ranked in
the top three right now.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
You know, coming into the game a.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Few weeks ago, you had Pittsburgh and US ranked in
the top two. You know what I mean when it
comes special teams wise, So I think is it don't
get enough credit for what he's he's done up to
this point in the season. And that's that's the way
you win championships when you have offense, defense, and special
teams play on the same acord.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So I'm gonna get my dub.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I'm gonna get my mid season dub or the season
to Iszo Man. I think he's doing a tremendous job,
you know, as a coach, as a special teams coach,
and he got those guys flying. And I mean when
you see the kickoff team, even though they had that
little funky thing, they got to sit there and wait
for the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
To get the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
When when that person get the ball and thank you.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Them boys are.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Smacking his They actually playing the way he played the game.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So I love to see it.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Man, I'll take the low hanging through since though we
got we're gonna talk about this team and the.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Jaydon Dallions, Man, Jay Dallions, it's you know, he's going
to be really good, you know, one of the highest
the trophy being drafted number two of all.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
For him to be playing at the level he's playing
so quickly.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
That but that's how why we were how we know
that because Bright Young won the highest you.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Know what I'm saying, I didn't think we didn't know
he was Let me remind when I say we knew
he was going to be good.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Eventually, we knew he was gonna play. We thought we
playing the high level. He's exceeded expectations.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
He's exceeded expectations, and it really is about the way
he's going about it from day one, from the first
time we interviewed it. Extremely impressed with him with the amility.
We've all been around rookies who haven't accomplished, accomplished nearly
as much as day that's accomplished, and they come in feeling.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That title big headed. I think they know everything.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
This kid man, he just goes out, plays ball, lights
defenses up, and.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, he's in the MVP conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I just Rookie the year, but the MVP conversation has
his team where we're sitting right now, and I keep
telling y'all, he's.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Only going to get better. That's the schedule about it.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Just to speaking to add a little bit, you talk
about humility.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
The kid told us after the hell Mary, when we
had them on Game Day Lives postgame show, he.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Says, that's God. He's like, I got to be living right,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
And the reason why I wanted to say that because
it's crazy you said humility. And the first thing I
thought about I wear I got a tattoo when I
was in high school.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It's a Bible scripture.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
And it's crazy because my one of my daughters just
got baptized. And then my oldest daughter the other day
just asked me like that, what are some of the
things can I pray about?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
How you teach me how to pray?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
And for her to be twenty plus, so she's twenty
actually and she wants to learn how to pray. And
you know, I always bothered them about that because I
told him, I've been praying since I was a little boy.
Like we didn't grow up in the church, but I'm
always praying. I'm praying when I get up, I'm praying
at night. And I was happy to hear her say
she want to learn, you know, and she wanted to
get closer to God. And I send her a scripture,
the scripture that I got tattooed on me, and it
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says it's James fourteen, and it said, humble yourself before
the Lord, and he will lift you up.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And I told her I walk with that, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
And everybody wanted the tan of why you're so soft
sport while you so humble, while you take on That's
been my life.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I didn't try to be humble. It was born in me.
It was instilling me.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
And as I was coming up to learn myself a
little bit, I found the scripture that identify that, you know,
identified with So listening to him say that about the
Lord and about living right to watch him play, it's
not a It's not a surprise to me why he's
successful because he knows a higher power and he believes
in and he's doing the right things to get itself
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prepared because you know, one of the things about opportunity
is the preparation part of Like, if you're not gonna
pare it for the opportunity, then.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
You're gonna fail, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
So you can say everything he did up to this point,
he prepared itself to have these moments, and that's why
you know, you got to give it up to him.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You also thinking about the another dub of the weak
of who I give dub of the being seasoned?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So I got to give it to.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
The ownership group, and the reason I give it to
the ownership group. And you know, they've done a they've
done a tremendous job and all the things they've added
around not just here but also at the stadium and
fan experience and trying to make things better. But I'll
go back to the process they went through first and
foremost and hiring Adam Peters. Yes, they had, they had,
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they had a plan, you know, Josh Harris leading that obviously,
and him in the process that he went through, having
bringing in Bob Myers and having Rix Bildman as guys
who helped him through that process. And you know he
allos other sports teams, and he knew he'd hired general
managers and head coaches before and all that, but knowing that, hey,
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this is this is a different element. Football is different
than basketball, or different than soccer, whatever the case may be.
Let's bring in some other people to help me with
this process and identifying Adam Peters and from there Adam
Peters and ownership, hiring Dad Quinn and putting that together.
And for this to come together so quickly, you have
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to it's ahead of schedule. There's no other their head schedule.
And then what we are right now.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And to that point, the trades, Yeah, the trades and
some of the guys who bought and free agency. We
talked about bringing Bobby early. Bobby was in that veteran leadership, uh,
trading for trading for Marshaun, you know, before the deadline
when we needed until we talked about what that meant
for the organization and drafting j Those three, those three,
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those three moves along are life.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The draft pick, not.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Even talking about that trade, that trade with Johann Johnson.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh yeah, earlier in the season.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I mean that right there was puzzling at first, but
then when you look at the whole you know, picture
of what they're looking for in the receiver and what
they got for it was. It was basically helpful too,
because you think about we.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Lost the third, but that third. Having that third kind
of gave us that third back.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So, oh man, you're right, Cliff Kingsbury, this is all sirus. Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You know, he was a head coach at Arizona a'm
out of college with the air raid offense, and it was,
you know, a different type of offense coming to the league.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And Cliff, there was.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A during the preseason we used to have him on
like once a week we'd have the coaches. We had
him on a conference call, and he talked about having
these other coaches from these different backgrounds. Yep, having coach
LeAnn having uh Brian Johnson, who was the offensive coordinator
came from with the from Philly and kind of bring
bringing that all together and creating the Washington Commander's offense
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and him just saying, hey, when I came to the league,
all I had was my offense from Texas Tech, right,
and now creating an NFL offense. Y'all surprised about how
how this offense is operated and come together so quickly
and being able to not just coming together but producing
the way that they're.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well, you're absolutely right, because the air raid offense traditionally
like doesn't have the feel of that. You know, you
run a stretch play and stuff like that, but in
the counters and you don't have the vertical passing the
vertical passing game get the ball out. But it seems
like there's a special combination of the run game pair
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with their past game mixing that we understand the talent
that we've had in getting those guys. We got a Hammer,
we got a third down back, we got Terry, we
got Zach, the line, and then the run game complements
the line and all whole, all whole, bringing Jayden along,
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and we've seen Jaden just continue to get better from
each one each week. So I would say I'm surprised.
But when you think about Brian, Coach Lynn and the staff,
and it's the right combination because he was quarterback WI Springford, Philly,
Brian was with Jalen, and Coach Lynn is a monster
in the run game and Clifford is just a genius guy.
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So I just think it's like, like you said, dude,
that's a it's a beautiful mix of personality.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
I won't say I'm surprised. I had no expectations. I
really didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I knew.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
One thing that that stood out to me is when
I saw Cliff in his stint as a head coach,
his running game always was second to none. You got
to think about it. Connor was over there killing him
was he was? And so with that in mind, the
first thing came to mind. That's why I was barking
up the you know, telling everybody the whole year, I
can't wait to see be Robbs because knowing that everybody
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know what we're going to do offensively with the just
the air raid attack and thinking that that's how it's
going to be or how it's going to look, he's
going to get to that run game. It allows him
to show us week in and week out how special
this offense could be. And I think he spent a
lot of time with the guys that he brought around.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You think about it. We brought the Johnson.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Coach, we brought them from Philly, you brought in and
you talked about Lynn. You know, all these coaches have
been in good offenses and had their role in why
that offense was special, and now you bring it to here.
It's a copycat league. You know, we want a lot
of game aims doing things that other teams did. So
I think altogether, man, it's it's a unity of coaches that's.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Putting their head together.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And but Cliff getting a lot of credit for and
he and they're doing a damn good job.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Another coach has done our standing job bringing some guys together.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Joe with Jr.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Hissic coordinators love love, Joe has his press conferences.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
He he keeps Obama, Obama the football version.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Let the man talk.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I want to just let him go.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
For him to be at a You think about how
the defense was first couple of weeks, how they started off,
and then how he's been able to.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Take this defense to another level.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Get everything he's got out that pass rush. Those guys
who are like, all right, we're gonna get the pass
from your boy, Frankie Louvu obviously.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Uh. You know, other guys have emerged. Newton emerged, Newton Fire,
the Foller has emerged, Cleveland Fair or Armstrong. You know
a bunch of guys.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Bobby what he blessed his and then getting the guys
on the back end the communicating play a lot better.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
You guys both play defense, and I'm gonna just tell
you my perspective of watching defenses and playing against them,
it's very seldom that you see a defense that shows
you who they are.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
And got better.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Yeah, shows you a completely new defense later in the season. Now,
don't get me wrong, they might be a little fine
tune on some of the things that they didn't do well,
but you never see them just like, what the hell
did that come from?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
So to see these guys come out and you're like, Okay,
damn what we thought we was weak at. So that's
what I give a lot of credit to these guys
for as a whole, because it seems to me that
as much as we want to talk about these players
and how well they're playing, it all stems from the coaching.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It all stems from.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
What they building and how they created this thing, this
bond of brothers and the culture that they're setting. I
can just imagine I want to be a fly on
the wall one day. I want to go in the
room and I want to hear or see one of
these coaches speaking to somebody who didn't show up in
a run fit, or who didn't or who didn't go
out and block a guy blocked the safety, you know
as a receiver.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I just want to see what he's saying to him.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Because I can imagine it already that he let them
know he can't win like that.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You ain't being a dog right now.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
What I was impressed with when we and why I
figured the defense would get better London.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We saw in camp when we were working camp, they.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Went the individual, then they went to two on two drill,
you know, then seven on seven this situational you know team.
But what was the first I think me and you
both were impressed, Well, like man, they were really breaking
the game down and teaching football, you know what I
mean teaching And we was up there looking like man,
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look they're working on the in and out drill and
man coverage. They're doing switch routes, or they're working on
breaking on the heads and or they're doing this. So
that was I knew at the defense with coach would
eventually get get better. They would communicate more, Bobby and
all the team will come together. That's freegingson do well
what feelings you know.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
It's that time. Let's start drive time, Rive time to drive.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
It's time for drive Time, presented by Eastern Automotive Crew,
Any car, anyway for everyone since nineteen eighty eight. This week,
we're gonna talk about some of our funnest memories man,
going against those Eagles. Yeah, when you see a team
twice a year, you have a lot of I just
hate you have a lot of memories. And it's crazy, man,
to be honest with you, as much as we talk
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about our division, to me, I hate the other two
teams more than I hate the Eagles, and the Eagles
fan base is just the worst of them all.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
But I found some kind of love for the h.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
I don't hate them as much as I hate the
Cowboys and the Giants.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
The Eagles I just like, Okay, they the Eagles I love.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I love going to the Philly player because of their fans.
Because I was about to go auhead and shut.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Y'all up, I felt like a gladiated against I was
gonna say, I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
When the fan and for you fans who don't know this, when.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
You're booing specifically at me, I understand I'm a threat.
So when I hear eighty nine they called me out,
your mama.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Did guess what.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I know.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I'm a threat to you. You you can't watch me.
You spending that hard earned money on watching me today.
So it gets me a little. I'm gonna get you
what you're looking.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'm gonna tell you how how bad the Eagles fans are.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Again.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I loved it because I just like that type of batality.
First time you played the Monday night football. This is
old seven. I can't hear they throwing heads at our bus,
these type of It was a couple of seasons. Fast
forward a couple of years later and I knocked out
two of the Eagles. I knocked out the runner back
of that Brive Westbrook and the crazy thing. He hit
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his head on my knee and he had a concussion.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
He was out.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Then I caught uh Sean Jackson on the dig lady
by the middle field. He he had he didn't finish
the game. This is all in one season. But I
got death threats for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I mean, we can laugh about it. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I'm still here, so they didn't, you know, yeah, carry
it out, but it's just like, damn, because I a doctor.
A couple of y'all players out there, Man, I wanted
to I'm trying to.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
It shows you how much how much these games mean
to some of these fans. Speaking of meaningful games, Man, London,
you was, I believe you was calling this game in
twenty twenty one when we went up there today.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Night football game.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was twenty twenty two, twenty one.
It was a little recap, man, about the feeling what
you saw that that night. I mean, you had you
had an Eagles team that was riding high. They hadn't
all the game. They were defeated, you know what I'm saying.
They hadn't lost the game.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Man.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
We went out there with the mentality that we see
from our team now, you know what I mean. These
guys better than Beauty and nobody.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, just remembering that game, I think they were eleven
and if memory sarves me correctly, I don't know what
our record was, but it was the mindset of the
game plan we went into that game, and if we
didn't run it forty times, we ran it.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Close to forty times. And I can remember all there.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I mean, it was just a thing of beauty because
we had been up until that point throwing the football alive,
you know, trying to get the passing game going. But
in that game, I was like, man, this looked like
the Redskins.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Right, this looked like the Hogs.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean they just poled b Roberts running that ball
all over them.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Its just it was just a physical mindset, the physicality
of that ball game. It was you talk about the thing.
It was a thing of beauty.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Watch we had. I think we had four turnovers in
that game.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I remember foot and they caught it.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Was.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
It was.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
It was a bunch of takeaways, man, it was a
bunch of It was a bunch of takeaways in that
ball You.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Just remember those games like, yeah, oh yeah, we went
in there, A force made a.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Tremendous like almost like a Willie Mays type intercept. I
think it was the Willy Mays interception or somebody else,
Saint Juice I think knocked the ball out that Ford's recovered.
It was just, man, it was a place being matter
that game.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Some of your favorite Eagles matchups, Man, oh.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Man, I tell you my favorite Eagle match out we
had here. We played them on a Sunday night. I
think I'm you know, we're talking about that later. But
t O and I was matched up on t O
and we were getting after him, and I remember him running.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Old run about.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Five played the month Sunday Night football.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I hit him, popped the ball up, and then Sean
hit somebody else.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Knowing that we are facing these guys at their home
on Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
What's like playing there?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Man?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I mean I remember the old what.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
It was called the bet Yeah, yeah, that was not
like the other.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
You know what I mean? But does this new stadium
have that same kind of shot?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Sean? You you had to play.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
In the vet when they had the little you was you?
Was you by the time you got leave.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
When the filter.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Was like this, I thought you, I thought you.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I know, you know all. But guess what to we played?
Speaker 5 (21:41):
We played against the Owls Temple.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
You know that that turf was terrible, terrible, terrible I've had.
I think I may have played the Eagles more than
any teams teame of my career because when I was
the same Lewis, we played them, played me in the
NFC Championship game, played them a couple of times during
the regular season.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You against Andy Reid, huh yeah, Andy Reid, big flet
that's mind for a big fletch.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I used to get after the Eagles many I wasn't
the fair favorite of probably the Eagles players and coaches
because I don't believe in making friends on the on
the field. I talk, I talk all the time about
there was no peace treaty. I don't before a game.
I'm not talking to you. I don't care if me
and you grew up together from from little league when
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we stepped between these white no, not even we ain't
even got to between the white lines.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Soon you come out of tunnel, as soon as I
know we're playing that week. Soon A man, we ain't.
I'm not your friends. There is no communications.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I don't want a small I don't want a small
talk with you before the game. I don't want to
exchange jersey with you after the game. You're still the enemy.
Ain't no chumming it up matter I want. I'm here
for blood.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Tonights gonna be some blood. It's gonna be some blood.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
It's gonna be some I'm actually looking forward to more
so now just knowing, because you know, I was skeptical
about just where we was at corner wise, and I'm
not saying that our corners haven't been playing good or
playing up to, you know, the level that they're supposed to.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
But I know when you have a guy like a J.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Brown and DeVonta Smith, you you need more than just one.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So we got obviously Brian who was quarterback culture after
Eagles and he's in stall some stuff, but he also
knows that does that give an advantaged way with one
way or the other.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Brought up, brought that up, I forget all about that.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I just mentioned him, and I forgot that having him
here will give us a little keys on what they
do offense the receivers. That's definitely gonna be a big help.
And now that you say that, along with who we
just brought in, I'm looking forward to that matchup for
the measure for that standpoint only, but I just I
feel like this is one of those matchups man, where
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even though I've heard a lot of people signing with,
you know, with the Eagles, I feel like I'm happy
to be on that spot. I'm happy to be in
that space because I understand what we're doing here. You
know what we're what we're creating here, and I think
this team is gonna be more than ready man to
go out there, man, and go out there.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
And really and have a nice showcase of some good
divisional football.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
This is a great segue and to set the talk.
Great great segue to set the talk, because we're.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Gonna we're gonna actually talk about the Eagles is even
more detailed.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So it's time to set the tone.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
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our passion is your protection. First off, let's start with
this Eagles defense man top five and total yards top ten,
and passing yards top five, rush top five and rush
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yards allowed, tear the total points per game. They playing
some defensive Remember they got a new defensive coordinator, Vic Fangio,
and he's been an architect of some great defenses.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
He don't play.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
How we're gonna be able to move the ball, score, points,
rush against these Eagles, we just can't.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
We can't brush over that.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
For the folks out there about Fangio, Fangio is is
somebody that's a nightmare that you need to prepare for.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So just to give him a little bit of background,
Vic Fangil was the defensive coordinator for the forty nine
ers when they went to what for NFC Championship Championship State.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I mean he's he's his other other defenses as well. Yeah,
he's like the father of one of the one of
the old GI's, one of the ol g's.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And this is this to me, will probably be the
best defense we faced. Yeah, from a scheme wise and
just talent wise, so, but not a defense that we
can't we can't do some things to but it's gonna
be one of those like, hey, for the first time
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we might have a defense, try to dictate some things
to us. And I think all the first half of
the year and the whole most of the year we've
been out there is trying to say, all right, we're
gonna read off of this, we're gonna run past option
off this, and we're gonna go we're gonna attack you here.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Now.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
We gotta be a little bit of like like how
we're gonna scheme them up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
We scheme them all up.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But do we have to again, I don't believe in
peace treaties, man, we gotta we still got to going there.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Like I hear him, talking, but no, no, no, no, when
when when?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
When I say that, meaning like there's some defenses that
do what they do and then there's fangio you don't
always know what they do. That's what I mean by
I said it's like first time, like everybody has been
a page, Like he gonna throw some looks at you.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
You ain't. You definitely definitely make your heart old Jayden
from a cover standpoint cover.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Standpoint, And then you've got to just also compare what
you've seen are already on film. I mean, they've been
susceptible in all those areas where they're tough at People
have scored on them, people have ran the ball on
them basketball. So it's like any other defense, you just
got to go out there. You haven't saw us yet,
We haven't seen you yet. We watch each other on film,
that's all we see. That's all we know until we
get out there on the field together. Then we really know.
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You know what can be done and what can't be
done against them. And that's what I think is gonna
ball down to.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's it's it's the physicality, the physical physicality of this
ball game, both sides of the ball, the two trenches,
they got they got an excellent offensive line.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You know, they got an excellent defense.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
But just looking at our our defense against their offense,
having the stop of Saku Bark, I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
To giants let him go to the division that is
like I want to do jumping backwards on the brow
you're gonna jumping.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I was trying to explain it and the best way
I can as a ball carrier, because I've been in
a situation where you and that you and your bag
so much with your moves to where the next move
you didn't even expect to do it, but.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It just came, and I'm like, that's incredible to have.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
It's almost like he wanted to spin and saw buddy,
and it's like, let me jump and split. It was
just man, bro, It's almost like he praised this thing
that was like some matrix.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Like he paused in the air.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Here's the crazy thing. He had just hit somebody with.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Spin gave y'all, y'all see the Nike. Uh they put
the witness backwards. You ain't see the Nike. He would Yeah,
I already made it a marketing there. Yeah, so they
got they got him jumping backwards, and you know how
I said Witness, how they used to do with the
UH with the Nike logo with Lebron so they got
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the Witness spelled backwards like logo backwards.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
That's when you coach. That's when you when you but
to your point where they when you see a kid
can do something like that. You're talking about being in
your bag and movies like that.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Everybody to the ball, and we're gonna have to be
relentless and our purshoot to the ball, and we're gonna
have to get after that.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
And you gotta think just what he did for the
Giants last year when the Giants was crap, you know
what I mean, Like he was the reason in both
of those games where we lost.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
The game, you know what I mean at it from
the standpoint, that's why you go out. You give Marshawn Latamo,
you get you get corners that can Hey, I can
put more resources to stop to the sae Quon Barkley.
That's why I mentioned Hey, yeah, the past defense. He
brings a great element to the past defense. But also
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he should improve our run defense because now I can
I can leave my corners out there a little bit
more on the high land because I need. I need
an eighth man in that box. I the safety. I
need they run some RPOs. I need somebody ready to
tackle Jalen Hurst if he decides to keep that ball.
So it's gonna be a great great chess matchup out
(29:53):
of a chill man, I missed them LC's battles.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah, this is one where you you know, when you
you know, sometimes you get the feeling when you're going
to the game. You get it before the stadium something.
You're starting to get it, like you get it on Monday.
You get that feeling like okay, you can just feel
it in at practice, like there's some energy, and it
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is some energy this week for this game.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I think n f C alone, I mean, just start
division alone. And this is it goes for any division
you ever played in. When you're playing against a team
that you that you know well and they know you
will it's almost like getting ready for that relative that
come over on special holidays that you can't stand.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Like you know how.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
We all did, and so it's just like damn, I
gotta deal with this, you know again, and so like
you you're going you're gonna have your best jokes ready
for him.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You're gonna have your best whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You know, I got a cousin. I can't stay at
this joker. You took me that time.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah, bro, I'm telling you to.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Man. Yeah, I need the therapy. I'm gonna have to
sit on the conc my cousin.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
This is because of that. We grew up down there
in the same house. So I see you more than
just on the every holiday. That's something every oh man,
this dude gets some damn nerds. But anyway, let's digress.
Looking at this game, how would you Blue, how would
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you defere Deavonte Smith to day J.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Brown by going out and there what we did?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
When when you drafter, uh, Mike Sinstril, you have Forbes,
you have Saint Juice, you have a lot of more.
It's one, it's just sheer talent. And two, the pre
and POSTNP reads for a quarterback when they have explosive players,
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it's critical. I don't think people understand how much that
helps guys in the back end and shore a shirtain.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Look, we talk about it all the time, so elaborate
on pre snap.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
So the pre snap look is what the quarterback sees
before the ball is snap. So seeing too high safeties,
he now thinks could we could be in zone, but
for some for some reason, he's probably gonna see it's
two half of the two guys on half of the field.
Right now, we know on post snap that can go
down to a single one of the safeties can cover
the tight end or whatever, and we can go man.
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But it doesn't automatically means that we're gonna be a
man and they can just line up and say I'm
go right here to the backside. So I think the
pre and post snap unity and how they move together
and how they play, it's gonna be critical, and it's
gonna be we gotta get pressure on We don't have
to get pressure on you. We can cover them, but
we ain't gonna cover them all day. They're gonna make
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some place. And but the confidence that we bring with
the secondary and the guys that we got in the secondary,
that's why you go. That's why we get first round corners,
That's why we get guys that that is just confident
playing in the slot.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And that's why we wanted we didn't free.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Agency anybody kind of You can think about this this matchup,
who you think gotta shot in this game? Who's gonna
shine it of the ball. It doesn't offensive defensively well shine.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Well, you know the thing that I love what I've
been seeing.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
When you have a quarterback like what we have, you
got a receiver that's very confident, you gotta you gotta
receiver that did it with twelve other guys at that
same position where it wasn't coming to him. Now he
has a guy that he's building a whole chemistry with
and he they understand each other, the team allowing him
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to be vocal enough to go out there. One of
the things that I knew from watching Terry go up
against the Eagles, the Eagles got a pretty nice, pretty
piece of talent out there at Conaback. That's what he
never played well against Terry. Terry always have his numbers.
So just knowing what Terry had done with other guys
like Heineke and you know, Alex and all those guys
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for him to go out there and be productive. And
I can't say it's Alex name out dare As like
he's a slouch either either one of those guys wasn't
that you know Alex though he wasn't himself, but he's
still he was shot when he played you know that
one year when he came back, but I will say
what he's done so far this year, man, I'm really
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looking forward to seeing Terry finish this season now, just
knowing that what he's built, he's only gonna get.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Better with it, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
I mean, this is this is like scratching the surface
right now, what him and Jayden Dames has built. And
I know he's gonna be chopping at the bitch knowing
that that boil cross the crossed away from him.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I had nightmare es up. But I think he's gonna
be the guy.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
I think offensively, he's gonna be a guy like I say,
we can always say five because five is the guy, you.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Know what I mean, But he's the guy for all us.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
And then.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
It's gonna be interesting too. Man.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I think I offer is the line again. You know,
I'm gonna mention them because they keep rising. You know,
every time we get somebody in front of them that's
supposed to be world beaters, they find a way to
contest you together, form that vote, run and be hard
to stop. And that's what we've been seeing for some
of these games.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
Man.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
The only way we are productive offensively, the way we
are is because of those guys up front.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
So you know, I'm looking for them to be stars
that night Blue.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Who are you thinking?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Who you think they shining prime time? Man, It's gonna
have to be the front getting after that Jaalen. Yeah,
because as much as we talk about our guy Jalen Had,
I mean he's since he's been in the league, and
they had a tough stretch last year, but before I
think he went on like a twelve or thirteen game
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win Street. So I think it's gonna have to be
the guys up front. But Newton has been coming on
the replacement with ja I mean, the guy's Fouler and Cleveland,
all these guys gonna have.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
To get after him because he's the mobile quarterback.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
So we're almost playing a mirror image of kind of
what they and and and and they're tough guys who
can run and throw.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Are a tough challenge for the D line, But for me, it's.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
The D line.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I'll say the I'm gonna include the linebackers and I'm
say the front seven because I think you gotta I'm
taking away first and foremost, I'm taking away him, and
I'm gonna force Jalen.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Hurst to beat me. Now, he may be able to
do that.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
But given picking my poison, so to speak, one dimensional,
I'm making one dimension because one thing about Jalen he
will give you opportunities. Yes, make interceptions on the ball
and throw it up. I want to allow myself to
put get pressure on the quarterback making make mistakes throwing
the football. But I gotta start with stopping stopping sakuon Barkley.
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Bobby Mann. We appreciate you. Jordan's Jay so first time.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
You spent the majority of your career, with all of
your career out on the West Coast, played for the
Seahawks for a long period of time one year in LA.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Came all the way across the country to the East coast.
How has it been for you?
Speaker 9 (40:27):
It's been good man. I think the fans have been great.
There's been a lot of love. I said, I think
the hardest part is like trying to watch a basketball
game or trying to watch any sports at night because
everything comes on at like ten thirty or midnight. So
that's been the biggest judgment. Outside of that, it's been
loved like DQ's made it real cool for.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You've mentioned your off camera you said you're a Lakers
fans fan. So you got a chance the other night
to go to the game with Jade and bark Eye,
one of the owners, and also Jade's mom.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
What was it like being was that your first that
my first Worchards game?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
What was that experience like?
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Now?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
It was cool.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
It was cool seeing everybody out there. I didn't realize
how tall everybody was, you know, like everybody like seven
foot like I thought. I thought Steph was like my
highest sixty four. Yeah, he looked small standing next to
everybody else, but uh now it was cool watching those
young guys play, and they kept up with him for
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
But you know, Golden State showed their maturity.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Speaking of you know, you just spoke about Dan a
minute ago, seeing how he made everything easy. What was
it like knowing that she was going to be a
part of a team that structured by Dan Quinn?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Again?
Speaker 5 (41:35):
I remember, you know, last year seeing you in Seattle,
seemed like you went back home and you was happy
and comfortable.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
But a year later you back with a guy who
meant a lot to your career.
Speaker 9 (41:44):
Yeah, I think you know, there's a lot of similarities
between how Pete kind of run it and how DQ
run it. But DQ, I definitely feel over Thomas has
found his voice, found how he wanted to do things,
and between him and coach Norton, like they've they've made
this transition smooth just because we've been around each other
for a long time. I think North coach me at
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least I think nine out of my thirteen years, and
so I've been around him for a while and DQ
we've always been in touch, So it's kind of like
you know, in a way coming back home with family.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I've been around it for a minute, So they know
what to expect from you.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
They know what to expect. I know what's expect from them.
Speaker 9 (42:22):
The communication is fluid, like we know how to talk
to one another, we know how to get each other going.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
So it's cool.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
So one of the things that when I first I
first seen you in Seattle when I went back, and
one of the first things, even as a rookie, the
first thing everybody in the organizations talk about, like this
dude gets he's a professional.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Like how does that happen where you're rook in the league.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
What was the mentality like coming into the league that
this guy's prepares, he's a professional, he studies, he does everything.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
Man, I just been you know, I watched the game.
Speaker 7 (42:52):
Man.
Speaker 9 (42:52):
So when I when I first got it here as
a rookie, I knew what it meant to be a rookie.
Like I knew I had to like pay my dues.
I knew I had to, you know, do all the
running around for the vest, but also like learn from them.
Like a lot of times I feel like sometimes people
come in and they think they know everything right, and
it's like this is a new experience. Like when I
came in, I kind of considered myself like a freshman
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type of jail, and I had a bunch of seniors
that was trying to teach me the way, and the
people that grew the fastest was the ones that be
quiet and learned.
Speaker 6 (43:20):
So I just try to do that.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I'm glad you brought up, you know, being a student
of the game.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
And I've shared this story a couple of times about
how you reached out to me on social media back
when I think it was about two twenty fourteen, I
was retired. You reached out to me, didn't We hadn't
talked to each other prior to that, didn't know each other.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
You reach out to me just like, hey man, love
that love it? You know, pick your brain.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, you know about the middle lineback position. I also
know other people in the business world. They've told me
you've contacted them like cold calls. You also contact the
other former NFL linebackers.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
What did that?
Speaker 6 (43:58):
Like?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Self? Where with self? Where does this come from? And
be like, man, you know what, let me tap into
these people who are doing things that I want to do.
And do it at a higher level.
Speaker 9 (44:09):
H Honestly, I don't know. I think maybe I got
it from like Kobe or something. I think I heard
read a story where Kobe would like co call people yeah,
and you know, my mind said is like the worst
thing you do is say no, Like, you know, if
I reach out and you know, you want to show love,
then I get information. If I don't, then I don't.
But like you'll never know unless you ask. And so
(44:32):
I think that's kind of where that came. I know
for sure the business side came from, like stuff that
I've heard Kobe do. But you know, football wise, is
just like I've been a fan of the game and
I know who who is great, and I know the
people that played this game at a high level for
a long time, and like why not try to, you know,
reach out there, reach out and learn again. Like I said,
the worst case is going to be like either don't
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respond or be like I ain't got the time. But
at least at least they know I'm out there. So
that's that's kind of where that came from. Just wanting
to continue, you know, being a student of the game.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Speaking of being a student of the game, I'm not
sure if I heard right, but I think someone mentioned
that you're back in school too.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
While you're down here.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
Think about that. Yeah, you and Howard, I mean, Howard, how.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
How was that juggling school and playing, you know, this
first season here in d c Uh.
Speaker 9 (45:18):
It's funny because I always used to complain about having
the you know, it was in college, like having the
balance you know, uh, school work in football, and then
I'm in the league and I volunteer to.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
Go you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (45:30):
But it's cool. I mean, you know, a lot of
it is just reading the numbers. I do that all
the time. You know, it's more of a structured version
of it. So that's kind how I look at it.
I feel like I'm I'm good with balancing my time
and and this is just like continue my learning.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
That's all it is. I don't think it, you know,
I had.
Speaker 9 (45:46):
The only thing I had to get used to is
like testing, you know what I mean, Like they just
try to trick you know, never straightforward, you know.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
So outside of that has been Little.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Legion and Boom.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
Obviously, you played on one of the greatest defenses with
some status, right, so we get a lot of more
and adding to defense that's getting better. Yeah, you know
that was a great defense that you played on. What
do you what are some of the similarities that you
see with this Washington team?
Speaker 2 (46:12):
How we get there?
Speaker 4 (46:13):
How could we be like a dominant defense like Legion Boom,
Because remember, y'all all were young when y'all first started.
Speaker 9 (46:19):
I think I think the thing that made us so
special was that we were young, and so when we
came into when we came into the league, like it
was almost like college again.
Speaker 6 (46:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (46:30):
It was when we got done playing, done practicing, we
just stayed at the stay at the facility, or we
was like, hey let's go get some food or let's
play the game or something. We just spent so much
time together that were just connected and that connection got
brought on the field. So you know, yes, brother, you
know what I mean. So it's like, you know, you
in Cover three and maybe you should have this and
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certainly like, hey go take a chance on that. Like
I got your back and you're like, all right, you
do that enough time to where like you ain't gotta
say I just look at you. And so for me,
I would say the comparison is that the connection. I
think a lot of the guys here we're really connected
like off the field, and I think that's what, you know,
makes us believe that we can get there if we
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just keep going at it because we have the connection
that you would need to be a good defense and
so it's just really just growing on that.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I had an opportunity in my career. I played with
some excellent linebackers. My favorite teammate, best other linebacker I
played with was to kill spikes. We're both from Buffalo together,
and it would be times before the ball was snapped.
Yeah we know, like this high is drawn up, but
key do this. I got you, I got you back whatever.
You and Frankie, y'all both came in here together this year.
(47:42):
Y'all been out there ball and that job if you
and have been able to have that build that type
of chemistry where y'all y'all playing off each other. And
what is it like playing playing with a guy like frank.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
I mean, it's exactly like that.
Speaker 9 (47:54):
I think one we knew each other because he used
to work out in Seattle at the same spot we
worked out, so we knew of each other. But then
he started playing on the East Coast, so I didn't
we see him as much, but then when we came here,
it was just like dang, like we've always wanted to
do this, Now we get to do it. And it
was just again just like the open communication off the field.
We'd be out there and it's like, hey, what you think.
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I think we can make a play.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (48:17):
And it's the trust, Like you, we trust one another
and we believe and we put in the work. You know,
we study the film. It's not like we're just guessing,
like we know what's coming. And so it's been great
playing with him.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
One of the you know, you know one of the
things I saw, you know, saw from day one. I
was just going through your little bio and I was like, man,
you was on that twenty twelve team that played us
in the playoffs that we lost RG three.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, bring up old Yeah he's still talking about.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
It, but I remember you was a vocal like you
was a guy that we checked on, be mindful where
he at, you know what I mean. So just to
know that you were young and now this is what
you're thirteen You say thirteen, you're thirteen I got to
play fourteen thirteen thirteen, so just to see where we
was at. And I remember how I felt, I'm watching you.
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You don't look no different from the guys saw twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
What was that and what is that process like for you?
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Like?
Speaker 5 (49:09):
How are you able to maintain you know? I guess
you know your do ability to be able to go
out there and.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Bang what you do?
Speaker 6 (49:16):
I think.
Speaker 9 (49:18):
I think as you get older, you just know that
like when you were younger, you might could take some
breaks and you be fine. You get older, like whenever
the season ends, I don't stop, I go to something else,
I start working out again. Because the moment the longer
you stop working out, the harder it is to get
back in shape. So I just figure it's a lifestyle.
I'm not getting out of shape. And between like my eating,
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I do a lot of yoga. I just take the
time to try to take care of my body. I
think that's the biggest thing is is especially now as
a season gets into the holidays where you got his
givings and the families.
Speaker 6 (49:53):
And the Christmases.
Speaker 9 (49:54):
A lot of times guys be like, all right, well
I'm gonna spend time with my family, and they stopped
doing and some of the things that they was doing.
So I just be trying to be consistent, and I
feel like that's that's what's helped me. I do the
same things, I eat the same things all.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
The time, many playing at a very high level and
nothing changed.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Uh, it's gonna be it.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I was watching so obviously I call the game.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Santas Tanner does the pre and post game, and I'll
go back and I might watch rewatch the game two
or three times, and I'm looking at you and I'm like, damn,
you make some plays like how the hell did he
slip that lineman and make this tackle?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Like I'm look, you look like you out a position,
like you're not gonna be able to do it. I'm
marvel at you, man, And I know I know you
you dipping at my butt on some of my records,
Like I'm trying you know when. I like that because
that'll keep me relevant.
Speaker 6 (50:48):
Come on, man, and I make sure I do my part. Yeah,
I appreciate it that.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
We appreciate you coming on and joining us. We have
all our guests signing this football fors man. If you
wouldn't mind doing that, man, we can't wait to see
you can see what the rest of the season brings
for not just you, but this team as a whole.
We got him walking many all right, So.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
That'll do it. Another dish at the Players Club. See
you next week, same time.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
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