October 24, 2025 • 31 mins
London, Santana and special guest Fred Smoot preview the Commanders Monday Night matchup with the Kansas City Chiefs. Then, the crew looks back at some of their biggest moments against the Chiefs. And, punter Tress Way joins to talk about this Commanders special teams unit and his 12 seasons in Washington. The views and opinions expressed by our podcast guests and/or hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any of their representatives.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to another episode of the Players Club. It's
coming to you from the Big Beer Ai Command Center Studios.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We are your hosts.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
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Cowboy Killer Philly and Fred Fred School. He's showing us
you ain't gonna call me the mouth for the South.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
That's my nickname.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You haven't allowed me to finish, right A.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
K E tu Different Thames Tellers By Monday Night football
going up against the Chiefs caut City Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Show time and I'm glad that it's one Monday night
football game.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I don't like the double headers on Monday Night.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I like, if it's gonna be the only show in
the in the in the in the in the world.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I wanted to be the only show.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah yeah, what's uh? Memories of playing against the Chiefs
man going into Cassas City. I feel like we've all
played at play there, whether it was with the I
think I know I played there when I was with
the Bills and also the the Rams.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I played there once. I believe I played them multiple times,
but playing there I only played once. It was my
first year. Uh, that's the year I had the eighty
yard slip screen for a touchdown.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Yeah, it was chief I had two touchdowns that game,
and it.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Was crazy because I don't know if that was the
first game that started my run. No, it wasn't the
first game, because the first game was the Cowboy game
when I had the hundred yards. But at that round
that time, I believe that was one of the games
where I had like a span of one hundred yards,
like like four or five of them in a row,
and I.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Was I was just tell them up against friend.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
No, No, that was in Minnesota. Unfortunately it was Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I canna report some bad news.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
When I first played against the Chiefs, Priest homes in
that office for line with shields, and my god.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
They had like.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, Casey wag Man, they had the dudes and uh,
Dick Fromire was a coach. So here's we hear all
this talk about the Cowboys and having the greatest offensive
line years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
As a group.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
They just listen, and I'm not gonna lie to y'all.
I know that Priest Holmes had two hundred and forty
yards rushing. Yeah, they did not even throw the ball
because we just that offensive line was just pushing us
off the ball.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
We couldn't do nothing with that off his line.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
I was gonna say to my fondest memory though playing
the Chiefs. I didn't play them at it wasn't an Arrowhead,
but my first ever touchdown in the league was on
against the Chiefs. Yep, forty two. I forgot his name.
He was all Warren backed up.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
What his name was? Forty two? Was he a safety corner?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Big forty four?
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Yeah, Warfield might have Waterfield might have been Warfield.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Who the other guy was?
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Probably Warfield, but that was that was like.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Was for I've had playing games against the Chiefs, good
and bad. I'll say this, going into Kansas City Arrowhead Stadium.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's a hard place.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Definitely. They're in Green Bay, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I feel like the two last historic stadiums that still
has nostalgia all the other ones upgrade in New York stadiums.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I think, So did you feel sold?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
You feel saying somebody ship but you still got that
mistique noid don't outside outside outside.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Once you get inside down the stadium.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Because I played at the old, the original, the original
that had that feeling that where they dropped that that
alienship that you came in.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
On, that's how you got.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's that's crazy. But that's for a venue with the
exception of probably Detroit last year, that NFC Championship.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Game with Rocking.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, I think it'll be on that level. Yeah, loudness
and just that environment, and it's gonna be a night game.
That play is gonna be crazy. I've a Andy Reid
head coach. We know well about going him. Yeah, what
do you what do you know about going against Andy Reid?
Remember about going You know?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
The one thing about coach Reid is no matter how
many times you play him as a defensive player, he's
gonna always have a different game play for you. He's
always gonna teck you a little different than he did
the last time. And what I what I understood with
him was because he got that West Coast offense right.
And I always said, if we can beat him on
first down, we got a chance because if they get behind,
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if they get behind, they're not gonna run the same offense.
They're gonna start to reach. And if they start to reach,
then they out of their ailment. But I think with
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
He don't give him that I think he gives him
an out.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That I've seen I've noticed about Andy. For Andy being
an old school coach, he was one of the first
ones to really embrace the new college spread off the bubble.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Screens the r pos.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
He was one of the first ones to say, Hey,
these are the quarterbacks that are coming to the league.
We gotta we got to adopt that. So you'll see us.
You'll still see some elements of the West Coast offense,
but a lot of it's more spread. Uh Tinner, You've
you've gone multiple times against Steve Spagnola, who's a defensive
coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
What what is it like going against his defenses?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I was just about to say something about Andy, but
just being that a guy that always from Afar watching
Andy as an offensive guy, I always wanted to play
for him. I'm like, man, I mean, we go against
the Eagles for so many years, and I'm looking at
the guys that that he got. I'm like, man, it
was guys like DJ, guys like you know, Freddy Mitchell. Like,
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I'm like, man, if I could be apart, because you know,
especially when you're not being featured enough in your offense,
start wanting to be that. You're seeing everybody getting a
piece of and piece of the opportunity. But you know,
Andy always had a way of just making you if
you're dynamic, he gonna bring it at you. He's gonna
show the world that how to use you all SPACs. Man,
(06:17):
it's just man, just you know, to me, like Andy
when it comes to being a defensive coordinator, like he's sterning.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
What he do best.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
But at the same time, depending on who he has,
and even if he don't have the best guys out there,
they become that. You know, I've seen so many defensive
backs men named the best ConA in the league. But
who's the who's the who's the decordinator because guess what
his d line gonna be ferocious, like you got to
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get the bar at your hands. So like that's all
I've ever known. I remember playing that game when the
Shanahans was here. It was wet and it was twenty twelve.
R G three were throwing that thing where heat like
boy like we was on, like we was on, don't
we was in the on?
Speaker 6 (07:00):
You bothering it?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
You can tell that he was swinging it, but Spags
was ready and it was the worst game to kind
of have that kind of ball at you knowing that
it's gonna be hot, you know what I mean. And
I was just telling the coach on the side. I
was like, man, it's impossible. We ain't catching the balls
a day like two wet sloppy outea and that defense
ain't budgeting like it's already wet. So you think that
we have the advantage. No, they know we ain't going nowhere,
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you know what I'm saying. And they were just they
had they cleats in the ground. They was coming after us.
And it's always he always had the scene to have
a great front. Like those guys always make it. They
always get back the game because being a receiver, that's
where I tell folks all the time, like, look, we
can talk about all these cornerbacks all you want. If
they ain't got nobody pressuring my quarterback, that's gonna be
(07:44):
a long day for you.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Don't care who you got out there, if he ain't got.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Help over the top, if he ain't got nobody pressing
the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
I got you. I got you right where I want you.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, this is all great stuff, all right, fellas, it's
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Speaker 6 (08:03):
All right, fellas, Yep, we got the.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Mighty mighty Kansas City Chiefs on Monday Night football? Monday
Night for football. What was it like for you guys?
I know we don't share these stories before. What was
it like? No matter who the opponent was, what was
Monday Night to you?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It was the show of all shows. It was the
one that says, you know what, if I'm ever gonna
be a household name, yeah, I'm gonna have to do
it on nights like this.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It's a pride that you take me on the Monday night.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Cause, first of all, if you ain't a good team,
they try not to put you on Monday Night. So
if we got that privilege to play on Monday nights,
in my head, let me leave an impression that's hard
to wipe out, like only showing time.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Let me go have some fun.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
It's beentersweet because I don't know if you guys felt
the same way.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It takes a long time to get to that game.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh you're just sitting in the hotel, you just in
your mind, you don't watch all the games on Sunday,
sitting in the hotel Monday, still waiting on the Monday
night game to come around. But once it's there, yeah yeah,
and them lights come on, Yes, it's time to go
to work out.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
That was me too.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
That was the That was the same feling I had
for a fletch. I. I was okay to be on
that stage because I'm I'm prepared for it, But oh
my god, man, I can't find nothing else to do
in this room. Play right, you got And you know
I'm a I'm a football fanatic, so I watched every
game I could on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
You know, I mean I was tuned in.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
So now I got guys in my head that doesn't
played well. Now I'm sitting this thing to myself, Well this.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Guy did this. I got to do.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I got, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Did y'all think about the office y'all was gonna going
into the stadium?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Oh yes, sir, I didn't. I did listen because Monday night.
You know that camera drive, you know how you're putting
that thing?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You have to look back.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I know it's the car, it's the outphant, it's the
whole presentation.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
What you're gonna your game day?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Like on the field, I'm finna go get fined.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
So so so what that being said you?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
You you had that long day already, yep, getting ready
for this thing. Watched all Sunday Sundays, all football games.
You know your game is the only show on stage
under the lights.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
And then the.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Opponent is Pat mahonons Pad Mahon as a dB friend. Yeah,
how are you getting your mind ready for knowing what
you gotta face at quarterback and knowing how he used
his weapons?
Speaker 6 (10:33):
What are you going through? What is going through your
mind right now?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
In my head, I'm like, I'm gonna have to check
more than one route per play, meaning when he breaks
the pocket, they are going to run other routes.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
So I need to be in Chase Mold today because.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
This dude right here, the magic starts to happen when
the play breaks down, Like when the play breaks down
with Pat Mahon, I need to one find my man
and keep my eye on my work because he one
of them guys.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
If your eye as so dirty.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Your game gonna be dirty because he gonna make you
pay time and time again.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So I'm gonna be in Chase mode.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
But I'm also trying to get me a patch of
Mahons ball for them coffins.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Then I got it home. You know what I'm saying.
With all the bread five balls and all.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
The Tony Romo balls, I'm trying to add a Pat Mahons.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Ball to the coffin.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But that's that's the great point. And you make a
great point. And the thing you have to guard against,
especially with it being Monday night football.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Is trying to force that play.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yes, because when you look at the Chiefs, they're gonna
throw a lot of bubble screen, bubble screen, bubble screen,
and then they gonna have.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
A scream spright face screen to go.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They're gonna manufacture some plays, so you gotta be on
top of that, making sure you're you're on top of
the trick plays. You'll have to tackle well, figure out
a way. It's easy to said it done to keep
him in the pocket. Sugar, Yeah, sugar, yeah, sugar. Figure
figure out a way to keep keeping in the pocket.
It's gonna have to be from a defensive standpoint, best performant.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It don't have to be that.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
This is our biggest challenge we're gonna face. I feel
because of the head coach Andy Reid and the quarterback
Patrick Mahons, we gotta be on top of.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
The speaking of trying to keep him in the pocket,
he's been sacked eleven times this year already. What are
some of the things defensively after you keep them bought
up in that pocket? What you got to do to
make sure you can manufacture some of those sets?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Well, we might have to, especially given our situation. We're
down several defensive ends, but offensive line right about to say,
their offensive line is not what you would call quote
unquote great, So there will be times you can beat them.
But I also think you gotta manufacture some pressure. Sending
a Bobby Wagner sending a Frank, sending a Jordan McGee
(12:44):
sending to Mikey samre Stiel, manipulating over low blitzes, and
you know, manipulating that.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Pressure relates some pressure even if you're not pressing.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I mean, do it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
But another thing you gotta do, and I've seen this
happen too many times. Who's ever supposed to contain that end?
Like having that end? So many times you see guys
rushing inside and he's able to just run that break
the pocket. So we got to be on top of that.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Yeah, these guys are what top five in the league,
you know, from defensively for yards giving up per game.
You know, we know Spags, you know we've been being
you know, I'm not sure if you guys ever played
in the defense like that or play for him.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think Greg Williams and Spags defenses are you can
kind of compare them to you.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
So, what are some of the things you've seen so
far this year defensively from him that has allowed them
to be so efficient and be so I guess you
say ferocious because those guys are they getting after you know,
every opponent.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, he do a good job of not letting you
know where his stars that he moves Chris Jones all
around at offensive life. He understands whatever you do Wellpags
is gonna try to make you do something else. So
if your run game is what you do well, he
gonna force you to pass it. If you will pass it,
he gonna force you to run it. He gonna force
you to go to your secondary pitch. Whatever that's taking
(14:00):
theiry pitcher is, you need the major in it, because
that's what he's gonna try to do with us. He's
gonna say, he's gona probably look at us and say,
all right, if Terry not is gonna play, if Debo
not gonna play.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
We're gonna try to scrang leup the run game.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
A well, we better have some stuff like screens and
draws and everything else to get to that run game
instead of doing it the convention away.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
What was I'm curious because I watched the Jacksonville game
and what was? Why was Jacksonville so so? I mean,
they looked like they was going to for told he's
got to blow.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
They were doing a lot of robbin. They were doing
a lot of one robber with the strong safety out.
They were robbing with the middle linebacker.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
They had the.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Middle linebacker spying on Patrick Mahomes when he won robbing.
And I thought they did a good job of just
making them setle for two or three d four yards
and making them patient.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
This is the one thing about it.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
There's such big play threats that when you make them
be patient, that's when the mistakes have.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And just to kind of elaborate on the robbin for
the listeners who may not understand exactly what Fred is
talking about. So with Kassas City, they run a lot
of shallow crossing, rode a lot of deep deep crossers.
So you'll have your middle linebacker what we call a
low hole player, and he's robbing that area. He's looking
to steal a cross or steal passes that may be
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coming in there, pickoff, pickoff receivers, knock them off of
their ribs, you know, just force the force Mahomes to
hold onto the football later and then from a second level,
you got a safety robbing that dig area. So say
you got a a dig coming, you got a safety
waiting on that in the middle of the field, hoping
that Mahomes doesn't read him, and you're able to intercept
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the ball, You're able to get their completions, You're able
to force him to hold onto the football. So just
having a defensive game plan that makes him have to
hold that football a little bit longer.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
And then robbers my fault. And then robbers also become spies.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I Patrick mahone. So they got two jobs.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
So if I'm coach with I'm going into this game
and I'm a cheery pick from Jacksonville, they say, that's what. Well,
Roberts kind of solves my problem with him running out
of the pocket.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Plus it solves my my cross and problem. I need
to major in this this week.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yes, exactly. The corners.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Just gonna say that.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
I was going to say because you've seen time and
time again, every offense takes something from another team that
has played. So if it's not motioning the guy, they're
doing a cross, they doing those shallow crosses.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
And all you ever.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
See is our cornerbacks, whether it's Flattimore, whether it's you know,
Trey Brothers, you know other guys Santa. Still they're behind,
they following these guys running these shallow crosses, behind these
these receivers getting picked, you know, through traffic, getting through
you know, can't taking a hard route by going over
top of your linebackers because you don't want to go
underneath them and getting beat. And so I'm always a
(16:51):
stickler for just watching you know what works. You know
what I mean, because I've been on those offenses that
been ran well, well, you didn't have to be you
didn't have to be great. Just take from the other
guys that was able to be fishing on them. I'm
gonna I'm gonna take I'm gonna steal some of this
and added to my game. So that's one of the
things I'm curious of just saying, you know, I want
to have Andy gonna say, you know what, I.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Don't need what they're doing. I do.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I do all this well already. Yeah, Andy will steal.
If it worked on you last week, he will run.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You're saying though.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
The solution for that, though, is to make sure our
guys are not doing all that.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Man and following.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Robert is man.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
But it's a man that I feel safe about inside route.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Because you know you got somebody else and it allows you.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So Tanner, you talked about what you touched on. You
talked about the guys going in motion and the dB
trailing whatever. When he gets when he's in man and
man coverage because he doesn't have low whole help, he
has so multiple routes he had to take take away.
If I know a lot of time they getting beat
on out, note that it's a five yard out, stuff
(17:56):
like that. If I know I got a low hold help,
I'm an. I get closer and I can play heavy outside.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Now you say I got him.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Here, Here's here's another thing. Here's another thing.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
It might be a situation where simulated pressure blitz blitz
one of the linebackers, and you're dropping a d D
lineman get into the into the window a slat window.
Home doesn't see them. Uh, interception.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Exception return with the middle lineback exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So stuff like that, I mean, you're gonna have to
it's gonna be heavy lifted by everybody. The details of
the game plan don't have to really dig in. I
know Coach Quinn's talking about we gotta.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Dig in, dig in.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
This team Ken City is beat their beatable team. It's
not gonna be It's not gonna be easy by any
stretch of imagination. But we have to figure out a
way to create some turnovers. Get off the field on third.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Dome, speaking of heavy lifting and just talking about the
guys that to me, who I believe is always creating
these turnovers is the guys up front. You know how
big I talk about the guys up front, The Ron
Pain out of his mind. You know what is some
of the things you've seen from this you know, you know,
deep pain this year so far that has I guess
you could say, allowed us to sit here and talk
(19:13):
so graciously about him, just of how well he's been playing.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He's been dominating one on ones when he get a.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
One on one with a guy because ken Law has
been taking the double teams the pain has he's benefiting
from that.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And he is whooping whoever head get in front of him.
And this is on rundowns. This is on pass down.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
But I said it before last game, if we can
get a couple of people to knock some balls downs
and guess what he major is in He majors in
pbu's by a defensive lineman. Sodeed that take away a
down that people don't look at that it's a big
play for me as a defensive back. That's a gigantic
play to me. He averages two of these a game.
I think he's being super disrupted.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I also feel like he's playing more violently and also
very instinctive, like some of the screen passes that he
getting out there.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, they playing more instinctive.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Well, one of the things that we haven't talked about yet,
we haven't talked much about our offensive side of the ball.
And you know, we went from you know, making some
noise in the run game and then the past two weeks,
you know, they've.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
We've been bottled up a little bit away from it.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
We've been barted up a little bit, but we're still
getting we averaging about one thirty games.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Still.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
It's what can we do this week though, to get
back on tracks and trying to.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Spread them out, figure out a way spread Hopefully you
get healthier. Yeah, hopefully you get deepoing and and some
of you because we've had we've majored in especially the
game against Dallas. We're in heavy personnel trade three tightens
in the game, we're condensing the formation. At one point
in time, it was ten guys around and I watched
(20:46):
that man and it's it's hard. Not only that teams
are bringing pressure like run run blizz. Yeah, people think
blitz to stop.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
The pass, also stop the run.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
A lot of a lot of tackers for lost. One
way you can do that. We got to get back
to spreading teams out, Yeah, spreading for opening up the formation.
That brings the ability to have a bigger run, bigger
more zone reeds. Ye, because you don't have so many
guys around the.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Mix their tempo back in there too, that tempo.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
When we go no huddle and we run the ball
at people, it hurts them. It hurts them because now
they can't get them d linen and sub them out
the game. We need to get that tempo going and
get into that run with that tempo fifth place, sixth
place run run run pass play action like, but I
need that.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Tempo bat all right, fellas man. Coming up next, we
got our.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
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As promised, we got a very special guest, Haunter Trestway.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
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Speaker 2 (22:36):
I appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Yeah, thanks for having me year twelve Man twelve.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
How's your twelve going for you? Does it feel any
different than year one?
Speaker 7 (22:45):
I think honestly, I think the biggest thing is every
time a new season starts, there's just like a whole
new level of gratitude of uh men, just getting to
do it for the same team, and like just seeing
seeing fans that I have seen year at training camp and
you know, like players coming back. And I think for
me too, it's been man, our life has been here,
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you know, life, kids, everything like that, and so it's
just so special. Like my kids, my kids don't know
any different. They just know Washington, you know, and I
don't know any different, and so that that's been like
this year is just like, man, how about that? So, yeah, twelve,
it's starting to sing, trying to let it sink in
more and more so.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Speaking of twelve years, how much has the game changed
since you've seen it from year once and now?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:31):
I h man, it was those first few were just
like a blur. Like I think back and I'm like,
I was just trying to keep my head above water
and uh And I think I think what's really cool
now is I've gotten to take something different from you know,
each coach and each special teams coach and things like that,
and man, I am just so honored with DQ and
AP how they view me and encourage me, you know,
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to to lead like in my own way. Like it's
not like this, I'm not gonna go down and smack
somebody and make the big hit in the game, but
it's it's the way the way I can communicate with guys,
the way that I can lead guys and try and
pull everybody together. And uh, that's been very empowering and
I've had a lot of fun with that, and uh
it's almost kind of freed me up in a way
where I like to have fun. I like to joke around,
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but it's also important to me that guys on my
punt team, the guys on our team just know I
care about them and stuff like that. So it's been
that's been something huge this year.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
How does it feel to be the old man into Yeah,
cause you know they get the call of you O G.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah, like London had to go through Stana had to
go You had to go through it. How does it
feel to be that staple don? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (24:37):
There, uh, you know, there there was a there was
a shower like a certain shower right there in that
front corner whenever you came in. And I remember one
of the guys, one of the younger guys, had asked me.
They were like, yo, anything, and and all the showers
were taken and I was just waiting, but that one
was open, and so one of the young guys was.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Like, hey, what's up.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Uh, like, what's up with the shower? I was just like, hey, man,
I haven't touched that soar since my rookie year, because
you know, like that was the Hall shower. Yeah, and
the guy and the guy goes, you played with d
Angelo Hall, and I'm thinking, I'm thinking like, oh.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
This is gonna be cool.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
I'm just like, yeah, sure did. And he looked at
me and goes, how old are you?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And I was like, oh, I'm not fired. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
So some of those some of those things. And I'll
tell you what the lingo. The ling I'm way behind
on the link. I am too, oh my, but I'm proud,
you know, it's like typical old man.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Doing like stopping.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
I'm almost I'm almost proud that I don't understand like
all the lingo. But so I got I got my
I got my younger guys that I always kind.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Of bouncings off of.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
And I'm like, hey, before I say this incorrectly, Like,
can I make sure Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Talked about your punt team, your punt unit. Man, them dudes.
First of all, you're making some hell of a punk.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Yeah, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
That punch you had I guess uh Dallas the other day,
Oh it was crazy. Put him on the one yard
line and Deron.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Makes it safe.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yes, also, but even other punts. When you see your gunness,
whether it's Percy Butler cheat coats, yeah, yeah, exactly chee
Oh what does that do for you? And you know
them that you have these guys that are gonna go
out there and make plays for you.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Man, those guys, particularly those two, those two gunners, absolute
cheat codes. I mean, it is to the point. And
I mean those dudes back there returning punts, they're best
athletes on the planet. I mean, and Turpin might be
the biggest.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You know, I'm a little partial.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
To Jay Lane with us and like the way he runs,
but Turpin's just scary. But man, when you got those
two dudes out on the outside and like that is why,
and I man, I get hyped up, I scream, I
have a lot of fun, and I'm I'm so thankful
that like I get the recognition for like hitting the
ball the way that I do. But the first thing
I do is I go up and I just Headbut
those dudes. Give those dudes a hug, and I tell them,
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I'm like, you guys are bad dudes. Like I'm delivering
the ball, but those guys are hunting and they are
just cheak. I mean Percy and t O. I mean
this is three year three or four with now. I
mean anytime I look out there and that dude's one
on one, I'm like, happy, hunting man, go for it.
And so yeah, just man, I'm thankful and like how
isz O and Snyde's coach those guys up and Wes
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Welker is helping out a lot. It is it's it's,
I mean, it's such a blessing. Like I get out
there and I just and a couple of those punts
I didn't have my like best direction of you and
they're just smacking.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I mean, gosh, yeah you feel watching him tightrope that
they lie.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
I know he was like yes, so Percy, like Percy
is I mean He's a guy who like he's like
so calculated and he's almost like in the locker room,
like he'll cut loose and have fun, but like in
the game, he is so competitive and like so detailed
that as soon as I saw him like get his
hands on the ball, I knew we were done, like
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he or I knew we were good, like he wasn't
He wasn't gonna drop it, he wasn't going to accidentally
step on the line like he knew exactly. I mean,
he's so good in that way, and so like seeing
him tightrope that as soon as I saw his hands
on the ball, I'm like, we're home.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
We got So I have to ask this question because
it's almost a totally difference already and we still have
ten more games left this year.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Last year, what you pissed off?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Because it's a crazy question because we didn't punt much
last year, But.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
How was you feeling just being so that's a fair question.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
I think the best way that I could explain is
when we had that Monday night game against the Bengals
that was such an incredible just dog fight, just back
and forth. I mean, it was just like two heavyweights
just trading haymakers back and forth, and in the in
the third or fourth quarter, we were going down and
it looked like I mean, I think it was a
maybe fourth quarter, really long third and long, and it
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was going to be a pooch pump, but we had
the lead, and I was so excited to like like
chip in on this, yes, and so like that's the
best way I could explain it is I get really
excited to chip in, but I get it that it's
not good if I'm putting the ball. So it's like
a I don't ever want anybody to think that. It's
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just like, oh, trust is pissed off because we're not
punting what winning And you must regardless, Yes, And I've
always said, like Puntin's like on demand TV, you know,
like it's not automatically on. It's just if you want it,
Like here you go, like, let's want that. So it's
just when you when you want it or when you
need it.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I'm there.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
But there's been times even throughout the course of your career,
like we highlight that punt that you had against Cowboys
where we downed on the one yard line.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Putty party does. But the punts where you flip the field.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
We're backed up, you're punting out of your end zone,
and you have a boom and sixty yard punty.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You're like man and you have great hang.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Time and and then those punts are equally as important.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Would you agree?
Speaker 7 (29:51):
That is ah and man, thank you, thank you for
bringing that up. That that is exactly like what I'm
talking about with how good like our coverage is. I mean,
they like to have the control to go down and
you're tackling one of the most dangerous returners in the NFL.
Because like I have that freedom with with just how
competitive our guys are on the punt team, I know,
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let's go for it. Like like I'm punting out of
the end zone, let me just cut one loose or hey,
the balls on the twenty five thirty yard line. Let
me see if I can launch one down into the corner.
That is technically going to be out out kicking your coverage.
Because even as fast as Percy and to are, if
I hit one over fifty yards that ain't up in
the stratosphere, that's not gonna be a fair catch. But
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I'll put my coins with those dudes going to hunt.
And it's just such a fun, strategic part of the game.
But it's a whole lot easier to play that game
when you got the players.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
So yeah, it's always trussed, always great having you. You've
been on here a few times, so you know the drill.
We're going to ask you to autograph this football.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh yeah, you don't mind, Oh yeah, we go ahead.
It on eBay and no time. That's how it come on.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Man, let's starting to pile.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Up when you don't want me to.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Lord, the calls got here. Yeah, got to do it
for the Players Club. We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Same time.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
K E tu Different Thames Tellers By Monday Night football
going up against the Chiefs caut City Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Show time and I'm glad that it's one Monday night
football game.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I don't like the double headers on Monday Night.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I like, if it's gonna be the only show in
the in the in the in the in the world.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I wanted to be the only show.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah yeah, what's uh? Memories of playing against the Chiefs
man going into Cassas City. I feel like we've all
played at play there, whether it was with the I
think I know I played there when I was with
the Bills and also the the Rams.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I played there once. I believe I played them multiple times,
but playing there I only played once. It was my
first year. Uh, that's the year I had the eighty
yard slip screen for a touchdown.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Yeah, it was chief I had two touchdowns that game,
and it.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Was crazy because I don't know if that was the
first game that started my run. No, it wasn't the
first game, because the first game was the Cowboy game
when I had the hundred yards. But at that round
that time, I believe that was one of the games
where I had like a span of one hundred yards,
like like four or five of them in a row,
and I.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Was I was just tell them up against friend.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
No, No, that was in Minnesota. Unfortunately it was Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I canna report some bad news.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
When I first played against the Chiefs, Priest homes in
that office for line with shields, and my god.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
They had like.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, Casey wag Man, they had the dudes and uh,
Dick Fromire was a coach. So here's we hear all
this talk about the Cowboys and having the greatest offensive
line years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
As a group.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
They just listen, and I'm not gonna lie to y'all.
I know that Priest Holmes had two hundred and forty
yards rushing. Yeah, they did not even throw the ball
because we just that offensive line was just pushing us
off the ball.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
We couldn't do nothing with that off his line.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
I was gonna say to my fondest memory though playing
the Chiefs. I didn't play them at it wasn't an Arrowhead,
but my first ever touchdown in the league was on
against the Chiefs. Yep, forty two. I forgot his name.
He was all Warren backed up.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
What his name was? Forty two? Was he a safety corner?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Big forty four?
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Yeah, Warfield might have Waterfield might have been Warfield.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Who the other guy was?
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Probably Warfield, but that was that was like.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Was for I've had playing games against the Chiefs, good
and bad. I'll say this, going into Kansas City Arrowhead Stadium.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's a hard place.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Definitely. They're in Green Bay, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I feel like the two last historic stadiums that still
has nostalgia all the other ones upgrade in New York stadiums.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I think, So did you feel sold?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
You feel saying somebody ship but you still got that
mistique noid don't outside outside outside.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Once you get inside down the stadium.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Because I played at the old, the original, the original
that had that feeling that where they dropped that that
alienship that you came in.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
On, that's how you got.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's that's crazy. But that's for a venue with the
exception of probably Detroit last year, that NFC Championship.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Game with Rocking.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, I think it'll be on that level. Yeah, loudness
and just that environment, and it's gonna be a night game.
That play is gonna be crazy. I've a Andy Reid
head coach. We know well about going him. Yeah, what
do you what do you know about going against Andy Reid?
Remember about going You know?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
The one thing about coach Reid is no matter how
many times you play him as a defensive player, he's
gonna always have a different game play for you. He's
always gonna teck you a little different than he did
the last time. And what I what I understood with
him was because he got that West Coast offense right.
And I always said, if we can beat him on
first down, we got a chance because if they get behind,
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if they get behind, they're not gonna run the same offense.
They're gonna start to reach. And if they start to reach,
then they out of their ailment. But I think with
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
He don't give him that I think he gives him
an out.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That I've seen I've noticed about Andy. For Andy being
an old school coach, he was one of the first
ones to really embrace the new college spread off the bubble.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Screens the r pos.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
He was one of the first ones to say, Hey,
these are the quarterbacks that are coming to the league.
We gotta we got to adopt that. So you'll see us.
You'll still see some elements of the West Coast offense,
but a lot of it's more spread. Uh Tinner, You've
you've gone multiple times against Steve Spagnola, who's a defensive
coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
What what is it like going against his defenses?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I was just about to say something about Andy, but
just being that a guy that always from Afar watching
Andy as an offensive guy, I always wanted to play
for him. I'm like, man, I mean, we go against
the Eagles for so many years, and I'm looking at
the guys that that he got. I'm like, man, it
was guys like DJ, guys like you know, Freddy Mitchell. Like,
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I'm like, man, if I could be apart, because you know,
especially when you're not being featured enough in your offense,
start wanting to be that. You're seeing everybody getting a
piece of and piece of the opportunity. But you know,
Andy always had a way of just making you if
you're dynamic, he gonna bring it at you. He's gonna
show the world that how to use you all SPACs. Man,
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it's just man, just you know, to me, like Andy
when it comes to being a defensive coordinator, like he's sterning.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
What he do best.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
But at the same time, depending on who he has,
and even if he don't have the best guys out there,
they become that. You know, I've seen so many defensive
backs men named the best ConA in the league. But
who's the who's the who's the decordinator because guess what
his d line gonna be ferocious, like you got to
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get the bar at your hands. So like that's all
I've ever known. I remember playing that game when the
Shanahans was here. It was wet and it was twenty twelve.
R G three were throwing that thing where heat like
boy like we was on, like we was on, don't
we was in the on?
Speaker 6 (07:00):
You bothering it?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
You can tell that he was swinging it, but Spags
was ready and it was the worst game to kind
of have that kind of ball at you knowing that
it's gonna be hot, you know what I mean. And
I was just telling the coach on the side. I
was like, man, it's impossible. We ain't catching the balls
a day like two wet sloppy outea and that defense
ain't budgeting like it's already wet. So you think that
we have the advantage. No, they know we ain't going nowhere,
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you know what I'm saying. And they were just they
had they cleats in the ground. They was coming after us.
And it's always he always had the scene to have
a great front. Like those guys always make it. They
always get back the game because being a receiver, that's
where I tell folks all the time, like, look, we
can talk about all these cornerbacks all you want. If
they ain't got nobody pressuring my quarterback, that's gonna be
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a long day for you.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Don't care who you got out there, if he ain't got.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Help over the top, if he ain't got nobody pressing
the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
I got you. I got you right where I want you.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, this is all great stuff, all right, fellas, it's
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Speaker 6 (08:03):
All right, fellas, Yep, we got the.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Mighty mighty Kansas City Chiefs on Monday Night football? Monday
Night for football. What was it like for you guys?
I know we don't share these stories before. What was
it like? No matter who the opponent was, what was
Monday Night to you?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It was the show of all shows. It was the
one that says, you know what, if I'm ever gonna
be a household name, yeah, I'm gonna have to do
it on nights like this.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It's a pride that you take me on the Monday night.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Cause, first of all, if you ain't a good team,
they try not to put you on Monday Night. So
if we got that privilege to play on Monday nights,
in my head, let me leave an impression that's hard
to wipe out, like only showing time.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Let me go have some fun.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
It's beentersweet because I don't know if you guys felt
the same way.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It takes a long time to get to that game.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh you're just sitting in the hotel, you just in
your mind, you don't watch all the games on Sunday,
sitting in the hotel Monday, still waiting on the Monday
night game to come around. But once it's there, yeah yeah,
and them lights come on, Yes, it's time to go
to work out.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
That was me too.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
That was the That was the same feling I had
for a fletch. I. I was okay to be on
that stage because I'm I'm prepared for it, But oh
my god, man, I can't find nothing else to do
in this room. Play right, you got And you know
I'm a I'm a football fanatic, so I watched every
game I could on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
You know, I mean I was tuned in.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
So now I got guys in my head that doesn't
played well. Now I'm sitting this thing to myself, Well this.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Guy did this. I got to do.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I got, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Did y'all think about the office y'all was gonna going
into the stadium?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Oh yes, sir, I didn't. I did listen because Monday night.
You know that camera drive, you know how you're putting
that thing?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You have to look back.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I know it's the car, it's the outphant, it's the
whole presentation.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
What you're gonna your game day?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Like on the field, I'm finna go get fined.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
So so so what that being said you?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
You you had that long day already, yep, getting ready
for this thing. Watched all Sunday Sundays, all football games.
You know your game is the only show on stage
under the lights.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
And then the.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Opponent is Pat mahonons Pad Mahon as a dB friend. Yeah,
how are you getting your mind ready for knowing what
you gotta face at quarterback and knowing how he used
his weapons?
Speaker 6 (10:33):
What are you going through? What is going through your
mind right now?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
In my head, I'm like, I'm gonna have to check
more than one route per play, meaning when he breaks
the pocket, they are going to run other routes.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
So I need to be in Chase Mold today because.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
This dude right here, the magic starts to happen when
the play breaks down, Like when the play breaks down
with Pat Mahon, I need to one find my man
and keep my eye on my work because he one
of them guys.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
If your eye as so dirty.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Your game gonna be dirty because he gonna make you
pay time and time again.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So I'm gonna be in Chase mode.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
But I'm also trying to get me a patch of
Mahons ball for them coffins.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Then I got it home. You know what I'm saying.
With all the bread five balls and all.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
The Tony Romo balls, I'm trying to add a Pat Mahons.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Ball to the coffin.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But that's that's the great point. And you make a
great point. And the thing you have to guard against,
especially with it being Monday night football.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Is trying to force that play.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yes, because when you look at the Chiefs, they're gonna
throw a lot of bubble screen, bubble screen, bubble screen,
and then they gonna have.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
A scream spright face screen to go.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They're gonna manufacture some plays, so you gotta be on
top of that, making sure you're you're on top of
the trick plays. You'll have to tackle well, figure out
a way. It's easy to said it done to keep
him in the pocket. Sugar, Yeah, sugar, yeah, sugar. Figure
figure out a way to keep keeping in the pocket.
It's gonna have to be from a defensive standpoint, best performant.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It don't have to be that.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
This is our biggest challenge we're gonna face. I feel
because of the head coach Andy Reid and the quarterback
Patrick Mahons, we gotta be on top of.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
The speaking of trying to keep him in the pocket,
he's been sacked eleven times this year already. What are
some of the things defensively after you keep them bought
up in that pocket? What you got to do to
make sure you can manufacture some of those sets?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Well, we might have to, especially given our situation. We're
down several defensive ends, but offensive line right about to say,
their offensive line is not what you would call quote
unquote great, So there will be times you can beat them.
But I also think you gotta manufacture some pressure. Sending
a Bobby Wagner sending a Frank, sending a Jordan McGee
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sending to Mikey samre Stiel, manipulating over low blitzes, and
you know, manipulating that.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Pressure relates some pressure even if you're not pressing.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I mean, do it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
But another thing you gotta do, and I've seen this
happen too many times. Who's ever supposed to contain that end?
Like having that end? So many times you see guys
rushing inside and he's able to just run that break
the pocket. So we got to be on top of that.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Yeah, these guys are what top five in the league,
you know, from defensively for yards giving up per game.
You know, we know Spags, you know we've been being
you know, I'm not sure if you guys ever played
in the defense like that or play for him.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think Greg Williams and Spags defenses are you can
kind of compare them to you.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
So, what are some of the things you've seen so
far this year defensively from him that has allowed them
to be so efficient and be so I guess you
say ferocious because those guys are they getting after you know,
every opponent.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, he do a good job of not letting you
know where his stars that he moves Chris Jones all
around at offensive life. He understands whatever you do Wellpags
is gonna try to make you do something else. So
if your run game is what you do well, he
gonna force you to pass it. If you will pass it,
he gonna force you to run it. He gonna force
you to go to your secondary pitch. Whatever that's taking
(14:00):
theiry pitcher is, you need the major in it, because
that's what he's gonna try to do with us. He's
gonna say, he's gona probably look at us and say,
all right, if Terry not is gonna play, if Debo
not gonna play.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
We're gonna try to scrang leup the run game.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
A well, we better have some stuff like screens and
draws and everything else to get to that run game
instead of doing it the convention away.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
What was I'm curious because I watched the Jacksonville game
and what was? Why was Jacksonville so so? I mean,
they looked like they was going to for told he's
got to blow.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
They were doing a lot of robbin. They were doing
a lot of one robber with the strong safety out.
They were robbing with the middle linebacker.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
They had the.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Middle linebacker spying on Patrick Mahomes when he won robbing.
And I thought they did a good job of just
making them setle for two or three d four yards
and making them patient.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
This is the one thing about it.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
There's such big play threats that when you make them
be patient, that's when the mistakes have.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And just to kind of elaborate on the robbin for
the listeners who may not understand exactly what Fred is
talking about. So with Kassas City, they run a lot
of shallow crossing, rode a lot of deep deep crossers.
So you'll have your middle linebacker what we call a
low hole player, and he's robbing that area. He's looking
to steal a cross or steal passes that may be
(15:14):
coming in there, pickoff, pickoff receivers, knock them off of
their ribs, you know, just force the force Mahomes to
hold onto the football later and then from a second level,
you got a safety robbing that dig area. So say
you got a a dig coming, you got a safety
waiting on that in the middle of the field, hoping
that Mahomes doesn't read him, and you're able to intercept
(15:36):
the ball, You're able to get their completions, You're able
to force him to hold onto the football. So just
having a defensive game plan that makes him have to
hold that football a little bit longer.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
And then robbers my fault. And then robbers also become spies.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I Patrick mahone. So they got two jobs.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
So if I'm coach with I'm going into this game
and I'm a cheery pick from Jacksonville, they say, that's what. Well,
Roberts kind of solves my problem with him running out
of the pocket.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Plus it solves my my cross and problem. I need
to major in this this week.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yes, exactly. The corners.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Just gonna say that.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
I was going to say because you've seen time and
time again, every offense takes something from another team that
has played. So if it's not motioning the guy, they're
doing a cross, they doing those shallow crosses.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
And all you ever.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
See is our cornerbacks, whether it's Flattimore, whether it's you know,
Trey Brothers, you know other guys Santa. Still they're behind,
they following these guys running these shallow crosses, behind these
these receivers getting picked, you know, through traffic, getting through
you know, can't taking a hard route by going over
top of your linebackers because you don't want to go
underneath them and getting beat. And so I'm always a
(16:51):
stickler for just watching you know what works. You know
what I mean, because I've been on those offenses that
been ran well, well, you didn't have to be you
didn't have to be great. Just take from the other
guys that was able to be fishing on them. I'm
gonna I'm gonna take I'm gonna steal some of this
and added to my game. So that's one of the
things I'm curious of just saying, you know, I want
to have Andy gonna say, you know what, I.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Don't need what they're doing. I do.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I do all this well already. Yeah, Andy will steal.
If it worked on you last week, he will run.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You're saying though.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
The solution for that, though, is to make sure our
guys are not doing all that.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Man and following.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Robert is man.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
But it's a man that I feel safe about inside route.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Because you know you got somebody else and it allows you.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So Tanner, you talked about what you touched on. You
talked about the guys going in motion and the dB
trailing whatever. When he gets when he's in man and
man coverage because he doesn't have low whole help, he
has so multiple routes he had to take take away.
If I know a lot of time they getting beat
on out, note that it's a five yard out, stuff
(17:56):
like that. If I know I got a low hold help,
I'm an. I get closer and I can play heavy outside.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Now you say I got him.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Here, Here's here's another thing. Here's another thing.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
It might be a situation where simulated pressure blitz blitz
one of the linebackers, and you're dropping a d D
lineman get into the into the window a slat window.
Home doesn't see them. Uh, interception.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Exception return with the middle lineback exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So stuff like that, I mean, you're gonna have to
it's gonna be heavy lifted by everybody. The details of
the game plan don't have to really dig in. I
know Coach Quinn's talking about we gotta.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Dig in, dig in.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
This team Ken City is beat their beatable team. It's
not gonna be It's not gonna be easy by any
stretch of imagination. But we have to figure out a
way to create some turnovers. Get off the field on third.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Dome, speaking of heavy lifting and just talking about the
guys that to me, who I believe is always creating
these turnovers is the guys up front. You know how
big I talk about the guys up front, The Ron
Pain out of his mind. You know what is some
of the things you've seen from this you know, you know,
deep pain this year so far that has I guess
you could say, allowed us to sit here and talk
(19:13):
so graciously about him, just of how well he's been playing.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He's been dominating one on ones when he get a.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
One on one with a guy because ken Law has
been taking the double teams the pain has he's benefiting
from that.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And he is whooping whoever head get in front of him.
And this is on rundowns. This is on pass down.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
But I said it before last game, if we can
get a couple of people to knock some balls downs
and guess what he major is in He majors in
pbu's by a defensive lineman. Sodeed that take away a
down that people don't look at that it's a big
play for me as a defensive back. That's a gigantic
play to me. He averages two of these a game.
I think he's being super disrupted.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I also feel like he's playing more violently and also
very instinctive, like some of the screen passes that he
getting out there.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, they playing more instinctive.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Well, one of the things that we haven't talked about yet,
we haven't talked much about our offensive side of the ball.
And you know, we went from you know, making some
noise in the run game and then the past two weeks,
you know, they've.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
We've been bottled up a little bit away from it.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
We've been barted up a little bit, but we're still
getting we averaging about one thirty games.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Still.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
It's what can we do this week though, to get
back on tracks and trying to.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Spread them out, figure out a way spread Hopefully you
get healthier. Yeah, hopefully you get deepoing and and some
of you because we've had we've majored in especially the
game against Dallas. We're in heavy personnel trade three tightens
in the game, we're condensing the formation. At one point
in time, it was ten guys around and I watched
(20:46):
that man and it's it's hard. Not only that teams
are bringing pressure like run run blizz. Yeah, people think
blitz to stop.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
The pass, also stop the run.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
A lot of a lot of tackers for lost. One
way you can do that. We got to get back
to spreading teams out, Yeah, spreading for opening up the formation.
That brings the ability to have a bigger run, bigger
more zone reeds. Ye, because you don't have so many
guys around the.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Mix their tempo back in there too, that tempo.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
When we go no huddle and we run the ball
at people, it hurts them. It hurts them because now
they can't get them d linen and sub them out
the game. We need to get that tempo going and
get into that run with that tempo fifth place, sixth
place run run run pass play action like, but I
need that.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
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Speaker 7 (22:38):
Yeah, thanks for having me year twelve Man twelve.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
How's your twelve going for you? Does it feel any
different than year one?
Speaker 7 (22:45):
I think honestly, I think the biggest thing is every
time a new season starts, there's just like a whole
new level of gratitude of uh men, just getting to
do it for the same team, and like just seeing
seeing fans that I have seen year at training camp and
you know, like players coming back. And I think for
me too, it's been man, our life has been here,
(23:07):
you know, life, kids, everything like that, and so it's
just so special. Like my kids, my kids don't know
any different. They just know Washington, you know, and I
don't know any different, and so that that's been like
this year is just like, man, how about that? So, yeah, twelve,
it's starting to sing, trying to let it sink in
more and more so.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Speaking of twelve years, how much has the game changed
since you've seen it from year once and now?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:31):
I h man, it was those first few were just
like a blur. Like I think back and I'm like,
I was just trying to keep my head above water
and uh And I think I think what's really cool
now is I've gotten to take something different from you know,
each coach and each special teams coach and things like that,
and man, I am just so honored with DQ and
AP how they view me and encourage me, you know,
(23:55):
to to lead like in my own way. Like it's
not like this, I'm not gonna go down and smack
somebody and make the big hit in the game, but
it's it's the way the way I can communicate with guys,
the way that I can lead guys and try and
pull everybody together. And uh, that's been very empowering and
I've had a lot of fun with that, and uh
it's almost kind of freed me up in a way
where I like to have fun. I like to joke around,
(24:15):
but it's also important to me that guys on my
punt team, the guys on our team just know I
care about them and stuff like that. So it's been
that's been something huge this year.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
How does it feel to be the old man into Yeah,
cause you know they get the call of you O G.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah, like London had to go through Stana had to
go You had to go through it. How does it
feel to be that staple don? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (24:37):
There, uh, you know, there there was a there was
a shower like a certain shower right there in that
front corner whenever you came in. And I remember one
of the guys, one of the younger guys, had asked me.
They were like, yo, anything, and and all the showers
were taken and I was just waiting, but that one
was open, and so one of the young guys was.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Like, hey, what's up.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Uh, like, what's up with the shower? I was just like, hey, man,
I haven't touched that soar since my rookie year, because
you know, like that was the Hall shower. Yeah, and
the guy and the guy goes, you played with d
Angelo Hall, and I'm thinking, I'm thinking like, oh.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
This is gonna be cool.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
I'm just like, yeah, sure did. And he looked at
me and goes, how old are you?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And I was like, oh, I'm not fired. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
So some of those some of those things. And I'll
tell you what the lingo. The ling I'm way behind
on the link. I am too, oh my, but I'm proud,
you know, it's like typical old man.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Doing like stopping.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
I'm almost I'm almost proud that I don't understand like
all the lingo. But so I got I got my
I got my younger guys that I always kind.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Of bouncings off of.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
And I'm like, hey, before I say this incorrectly, Like,
can I make sure Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Talked about your punt team, your punt unit. Man, them dudes.
First of all, you're making some hell of a punk.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Yeah, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
That punch you had I guess uh Dallas the other day,
Oh it was crazy. Put him on the one yard
line and Deron.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Makes it safe.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yes, also, but even other punts. When you see your gunness,
whether it's Percy Butler cheat coats, yeah, yeah, exactly chee
Oh what does that do for you? And you know
them that you have these guys that are gonna go
out there and make plays for you.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Man, those guys, particularly those two, those two gunners, absolute
cheat codes. I mean, it is to the point. And
I mean those dudes back there returning punts, they're best
athletes on the planet. I mean, and Turpin might be
the biggest.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You know, I'm a little partial.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
To Jay Lane with us and like the way he runs,
but Turpin's just scary. But man, when you got those
two dudes out on the outside and like that is why,
and I man, I get hyped up, I scream, I
have a lot of fun, and I'm I'm so thankful
that like I get the recognition for like hitting the
ball the way that I do. But the first thing
I do is I go up and I just Headbut
those dudes. Give those dudes a hug, and I tell them,
(26:48):
I'm like, you guys are bad dudes. Like I'm delivering
the ball, but those guys are hunting and they are
just cheak. I mean Percy and t O. I mean
this is three year three or four with now. I
mean anytime I look out there and that dude's one
on one, I'm like, happy, hunting man, go for it.
And so yeah, just man, I'm thankful and like how
isz O and Snyde's coach those guys up and Wes
(27:10):
Welker is helping out a lot. It is it's it's,
I mean, it's such a blessing. Like I get out
there and I just and a couple of those punts
I didn't have my like best direction of you and
they're just smacking.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I mean, gosh, yeah you feel watching him tightrope that
they lie.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
I know he was like yes, so Percy, like Percy
is I mean He's a guy who like he's like
so calculated and he's almost like in the locker room,
like he'll cut loose and have fun, but like in
the game, he is so competitive and like so detailed
that as soon as I saw him like get his
hands on the ball, I knew we were done, like
(27:48):
he or I knew we were good, like he wasn't
He wasn't gonna drop it, he wasn't going to accidentally
step on the line like he knew exactly. I mean,
he's so good in that way, and so like seeing
him tightrope that as soon as I saw his hands
on the ball, I'm like, we're home.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
We got So I have to ask this question because
it's almost a totally difference already and we still have
ten more games left this year.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Last year, what you pissed off?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Because it's a crazy question because we didn't punt much
last year, But.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
How was you feeling just being so that's a fair question.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
I think the best way that I could explain is
when we had that Monday night game against the Bengals
that was such an incredible just dog fight, just back
and forth. I mean, it was just like two heavyweights
just trading haymakers back and forth, and in the in
the third or fourth quarter, we were going down and
it looked like I mean, I think it was a
maybe fourth quarter, really long third and long, and it
(28:46):
was going to be a pooch pump, but we had
the lead, and I was so excited to like like
chip in on this, yes, and so like that's the
best way I could explain it is I get really
excited to chip in, but I get it that it's
not good if I'm putting the ball. So it's like
a I don't ever want anybody to think that. It's
(29:06):
just like, oh, trust is pissed off because we're not
punting what winning And you must regardless, Yes, And I've
always said, like Puntin's like on demand TV, you know,
like it's not automatically on. It's just if you want it,
Like here you go, like, let's want that. So it's
just when you when you want it or when you
need it.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I'm there.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
But there's been times even throughout the course of your career,
like we highlight that punt that you had against Cowboys
where we downed on the one yard line.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Putty party does. But the punts where you flip the field.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
We're backed up, you're punting out of your end zone,
and you have a boom and sixty yard punty.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You're like man and you have great hang.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Time and and then those punts are equally as important.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Would you agree?
Speaker 7 (29:51):
That is ah and man, thank you, thank you for
bringing that up. That that is exactly like what I'm
talking about with how good like our coverage is. I mean,
they like to have the control to go down and
you're tackling one of the most dangerous returners in the NFL.
Because like I have that freedom with with just how
competitive our guys are on the punt team, I know,
(30:12):
let's go for it. Like like I'm punting out of
the end zone, let me just cut one loose or hey,
the balls on the twenty five thirty yard line. Let
me see if I can launch one down into the corner.
That is technically going to be out out kicking your coverage.
Because even as fast as Percy and to are, if
I hit one over fifty yards that ain't up in
the stratosphere, that's not gonna be a fair catch. But
(30:34):
I'll put my coins with those dudes going to hunt.
And it's just such a fun, strategic part of the game.
But it's a whole lot easier to play that game
when you got the players.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
So yeah, it's always trussed, always great having you. You've
been on here a few times, so you know the drill.
We're going to ask you to autograph this football.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh yeah, you don't mind, Oh yeah, we go ahead.
It on eBay and no time. That's how it come on.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Man, let's starting to pile.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Up when you don't want me to.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Lord, the calls got here. Yeah, got to do it
for the Players Club. We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Same time.
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