Detroit Bound for NFC Divisional Round + Memories in the Motor City + WR Dyami Brown | The Player’s Club | Washington Commanders | NFL

It’s all about the PLAYOFFS on this edition of The Player’s Club! London Fletcher, Santana Moss, and Shawn Springs hand out Dubs of the Week after Washington’s Wild Card win over Tampa Bay. Then, the crew chops it up about some of their favorite memories against the Lions. Then, the crew previews this Divisional matchup with Detroit. Plus, they catch up with wide receiver Dyami Brown after his big performance against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Playoffs.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome into another edition of the Players Club. I'd love
to Fletcher sat Tanna Mass mister a to the Nine
Shots pre a K blue foot a K blue Man. Hey,
you fellas, we're going into the divisional round of the
playoffs for the first time since two thousand and six.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Tyler, you was on that team, So I'm gonna start
with you. Wait wait, wait, wait, oh you.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Owe that team too, don't You're gonna not let you
acknowledge that was your teammates with my team sometimes trying.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
To make it a lot of players that's forget man.
You know was all that six.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Number one past defense probably probably? Okay, Tyler, you start
this all, how you feeling.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
It's a great feeling, man, Honestly, you know it's crazy.
The pregame show for your for all you. I'm pretty
sure all our viewers on the Players Club watch our posts,
our pre and post game show on game that if
you don't check us out free and post game day
live me myself b Mitch, you know Brian Copen Jr.

(01:12):
And your boy A two the nine Commanded YouTube channel,
right commanded YouTube channel, and we have, you know, some
of the best in the business. That's basically, you know,
helping us out and Maddie and you know Kyla ky
But check it when I tell you this, bro, we
had just spoke about it. I say, I'm tired of
every time we talk about something, it always date back
to what we did. It's time for these guys to

(01:34):
rewrite this, you know, this history man, and put themselves,
you know, put themselves in the book. So it was
great just to see them go out there and handle
business man. Not only did they play well, it's the
fans way had to be there, like way crazy. They
packed them. On our side of the ball, you saw

(01:54):
nothing but side of the field.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Outside of the field, you.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Saw nothing but burgany and go. I love that burgeny.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Man electric kind of you didn't come out Saturday night, No,
I didn't, Boy, I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
A man of the people.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
I saw the rally. I didn't go to the rally.
I was tempted to go, but I was like, man,
I go to the blessed with the big fletch press.
Almost almost blessed people at the rally because I haven't
been in ye miss miss enough for all of us.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
I almost went, but I was like, man, I might
not get out of there. But I was.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I went to a little little spot not too far
from the hotel tyn of Commanded Fan.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
So the fans, man, they've been showing up.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I know a lot of people already booked flights to
go to Detroit looking forward to that. As far as
you you watched the game on TV, feeling with us,
you know, making it to the second man, I was vision.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
I did pregame, but just on the way home, listen
to the radio. Uh, stopped at the grocery store to
get a little snacks or something before you go in,
and man, it was just like every everything has changed,
you like everybody in their little jersey's on everybody's Friday,
like getting.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Set to go. Man.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
So I can't even imagine what it was like being
down in Tampa.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
But I mean it's the feeling. Man, I can't tell.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
You how proud I was.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
I know that that plane ride for those guys had
to feel. On the way back at Regrets, I was
just cheesing, man like, man like, not only were we here,
we won and we talk about that. That's it's a
good feeling, man. It is exciting, man. And not only
did we win, just how we won. Yeah, that offense.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Looking at Week one and then last week the playoff game,
the growth obviously Jaden his broth, and then the offense
and this team as a whole.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
How was jad And I'm gonna haven the bliss what.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I love kind of the first uh, first, third down play,
third and four. They want to bring pressure or whatever
they do they did or potential go up shot on,
go up top on them, let him know we're not
here to dickon duncan pick up a first down.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Were taking shots down on a tick.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Not only that to the defense man, you know when
they went down, when they asked for the ball first,
That's what I thought it was.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'm like, oh, that's why you feel.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
And then to get out there on the field and
no defense help them to a field go, I say, oh,
it's that type of game. But you know, I think
the thing that stood out the most to me is
just if you if you remember Week one, our defense
was getting their hands on Baker, they just couldn't bring
them down. So he made play out to play for
that offense, just with his legs. So the first thing

(04:46):
I said going into that game, I was like, bro,
I need to see a performance from our defense. Like
we did up in Arizona against Kyler Murray. I think
that we played him better than anybody had played him
up to that point. And they did just that. Man,
they made Baker stay in that pocket. Now, don't get
me wrong, him and that boy Mike Evans was they was,
They was willing to deal in it. But we made
a key adjustment halftime. I said, Okay, you know what,

(05:08):
we got caught up into the hype, you know, you know,
and we blame ourselves for that. We allowed y'all to
get us all bunched up into this whole rivalry with
Mike Evans and my man a lot of more.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
We gonna change that, cause this is not me.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
This is not like that what Joe, This is not
like Let me go out here and put these guys
in defense and let our defense play well. And I
love that adjustment, and I love what they did because
then you saw a stop to whatever Mike was doing when.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
We ain't hear him about Mike no more.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
That so getting into the defense. And although if we
want to do this later and.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
We do right right, yeah, we're gonna get with Dublins
a week. But real quick adjustments made. I thought defensively,
first and foremost, the way they played the run earlier
in the game was excellent. Like first half, Bucky Irving,
he didn't really have making an age major impact. He
got he broke some runs off of the second half,
but the emphasis and how the way they attacked the run,

(06:01):
Bobby Wagner said, the tone first player, the first round
player that they had. Yeah, come up and they hit
him with our standing game man. I'll standing game player.
Get back to the fans. So I'm flying out. I
had an early flight Monday morning, and I see I mean,
I going to one of the lounges.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
At the airport. I'm not gonna shot them out unless
they accommodation. Yeah, they take care of me, but they
ain't a sponsored players, that's right.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
So I'm in there. I'm sitting.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I got my back to three older gentlemen and you
could tell they've been fans of this team probably since
the fifties and six.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Let's call it sixties seventies.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
So they were older gentlemen and the pride they spoke with,
and they were just they didn't even know I was
in there and who I was.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
And they having their conversation, they.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Talk about the game, talking about the old times, talking
about Jane, they talked about they talked about Bobby Waggon,
they talked about somebody. They even mentioned me, and it's
like it's like, yeah, Lenny had all little talking things.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
They were talking about Bobby and I.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
They were just talking about how the guys played and
Dan Quinn and all that, and so they had that
conversation where it's trying to leave.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I go to I finally say something to the guys.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
I was like, man, you and I And they was
also talking about golf, like y'all, guys, we share two
things in common, love for golf and love for the commanders.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
And that point point to my head and I was like, yeah, man,
I love to Fletcher.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
It's like, dude, can we take a picture on you?

Speaker 3 (07:32):
It was it was just a beautiful thing. That's good man.
But you mentioned, you know, you mentioned Duves for the Week. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's trying to hand out some Duves of the week.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
We're gonna get some ice at some point eventually, George Store,
why do we get a jury company sponsors put some
I w I would rock that thing, so blue start
with you, Well, who you're gonna get your double dubs
two from that ball game.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
I had Diyami because I just think he's been hot
over the last three weeks or last month.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
He's been making some plays.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
But it sounds like, man, we know how hard it
is to go on the road and win in any
stadium and the fans was against us, but it sounds
like double the week. We need to give a shout
out to our fan base, but traveling and because people
who you see it on TV and you know it's
loud in the stadium, but when you have to be

(08:35):
in that hostile environment and knowing that you got your
that burging in like you said, that burging in go
behind you. Yes, that makes a huge difference for guys, man,
that makes a huge difference.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
My double. We're gonna have to go to the fans
and keep up to keep up.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
To good work. All y'all out there listening, hit the road,
go to Detroit. You're gonna get a ticket. If you
ain't any ticket, just be out there, Jo just be
iud there of supporting our team, man, because going on
we can make a rhyme, but we need to support.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
So my double were going to the fans. Man.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah, I mean, man, look, it was a lot of
people to me that stood out in the game defensively, offensively.
I could easily pick any receiver that you know had
an integral role in Diani or or Terry. And then
you know, we could talk about j D five like
we talk about him a weekend and week out. But
I'm going to limb and I'm not sure how many

(09:24):
times we mentioned our special teams. But I got to
give it to the kicker. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
But I got to give him the double the week.
I think what he had three field goals he made
that's clubs fifty yards some yards down the pike, second
one down the pike, the third one, I was questioning

(09:45):
where we went where we went at with the ball,
and he still got it in aw that match. So honestly, man,
you got to think about it. You know, there were
times in the game where I was scratching my head
while we didn't go for the field goal. But you
never could question question dan Quinn and his decision making.
But man, you gotta get his man a shout out,

(10:07):
because you know, I've been in a I've been in
a playoff game back in the fourth before I even
became a Redskin, I was with the Jets and we
was in Pittsburgh taking it to the Stealers, and we
was up at one point in time in the game
and ended up losing that game late in the game
because we missed three field goals.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Three missed three to win the game.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
So we make one of those field goals, we win
the game and were in an AFC championship game. Possibly
that was our best shot to go to the you know,
Super Bowl that year. And I ended up here a
year after that and had a put return in that
game too for a touchdown. So knowing how critical those
playoff games are and being in the situation where special
teams play significant role, to see.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Our kicker come up big and get my dub by
the week, I don't know where you You were in
the press box when they when that kick? Yeah, no, no,
I was in the tunnel. Actually all use tunnel. So
we're up in the booth, and I know y'all seen
seeing a lot of people seen.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
We see you kicking.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
Man.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Man. I throw fourteen punches, fur, I should have throw nineteen.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I'm just glad you're here. Brand Man, so listen if
on the call, we couldn't tell didn't make it or not,
and we couldn't we didn't know it hit the upright, Okay,
So we're like, man, why is it? Why is the
up officials taking so long to say whether it's good
or not? Because from from our view, we're not.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Watching the TV of a copy of it, watching the game,
watching watching a live and so we're just looking to
wait and see what the whether it's good or miss,
and like, why are they taking so long? We didn't
find out about the door the words man, But you know, hey,
the way our season is going been going this year,

(11:59):
yes it was.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
It was destiny for man Field.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
We've won the We won games this year in any
all different ways that you know, you can you can
name possible, you know. And to put the like icing
on the cake of our first playoff win in twenty
years with us hitting the gold post and going in
won the road in the pressure moment like that with
a kicker, that's pretty pretty. You know that this is

(12:24):
not his first rodeo, but this is not something that's
not a place where he've been before. He hadn't been
in this situation like that. So Man it was extremely
one of those games.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, all right, it's time for me to hind out
my dub or dubs of the week. I'm gonna just
give one. I'm JD five man. Yeah, the kid man
I have for him. Can we just give it out
to him every week?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
So we just could.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
It's just like it's like it Danny Devil with Jordan.
With Jordan was playing, it was MVP of the league.
Every year they got Barkley one. It was like sometimes
you get a little like, all right, let's just switch
it up, but Jada guy has to get double the week.
The way he operated, he was shredding that uh that
tame of Bay defense so bad that they stopped blitzing

(13:07):
him the bucks normally.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
They they had got to the point where they were.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
The second they blitched the second most out of anybody
in the the second we saw man. Even since week twelve,
on thirty fourth downs, they was blitzing at like sixty
sixty six percent of the time, like.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
They were coming man. They stopped blitzing rushing three. They
had basically two spots.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh Jay, like Jay, that's he literally on the on
the the third and sixth play where his yards they
only rushed three.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
They had that much respect, like we.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Ain't gonna go after So he had time against the
three man rush and the growth that he showed from
Week one to Sunday night. The five yard speedouts they
didn't pull the trigger on. In the first game, he
threw a couple of those.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Terry out, He's stood in the pocket, he stayed when
he scrambled, kept his eyes down the field, hit the
Army on the deep ball, his zach Ertz on the
on the ball, I mean just the one time zach Ertz,
what's that?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, And then the touchdown of Terry he was about
to take off and run and he's like, oh, I
came back through a dark should man just the way
he and then obviously that the third and one at
the end of the game were converts. Gets puts us
in a position where we can run out, run the
clock down, kick the game with the field goal man.

(14:39):
He he bought out and this for him to be
doing this as a rookie. Zero punts, zero turnovers. He
tied Peyton Manney and the only quarterbacks in NFL history
on a row in a role playoff game to have
leader office with zero punts and zero turnovers.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
That's a pretty good name being associated with Peyton Manning.
You're doing some things here, here's another one, thanks George.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
He joined Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, and Russell Wilson as
the only quarterbacks to win their first role playoff start
as rookies.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
So he's he's doing that. And then we got to
shout out Dan Quinn.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, became the first Washington head coach to win a
playoff game for the franchise since a role playoff game
for the franchise since Hall of Famer Joe Gibbs, and
actually the first head coach to win a playoff game
for the franchise since Joe Gibbs in two thousand and five.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
All in the first year, man, man, that's that's incredible. Man.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
We said each week, man like you gotta pinch yourself,
like you couldn't dream this up.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
This up, I mean, eve, especially at that one part
of the season where we had a little little area
where you know, three game skin, we were that James, Yeah,
I understand that, and that's what we were trying to
say as players, like we've all experienced at that time
where we had those games where it's just the team
beat up. You know, you might have a player too,

(16:12):
That's that's key at what we do. They may be
beat up. And we knew that with Jayden had the
ribs issues. He was short hopping things that time. We
knew it was you know, it was the ribs playing
a key role in that. And what I said, I said, Man,
I've been on teams where we won four in a row.
We won five in a row to get into postseason.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
We want seven and roll. We want seven in the
road to make it the twenty twelve. You're right, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
So we've I've been on those teams where I saw
the same kind of output and just to see this
team go, what five in a row to get to
the postseason, now they won six in a row. You know,
if you had the postseason game, that's special. And it's
all been done led by a rookie quarterback. So man, especially,
I mean, and you can't get enough of hearing people,

(16:56):
you know, I mean be enamored with what they see
him doing because you get caught up in the whole
hype of what this game has brought to the African
American quarterback and say, well, these guys are who they
are because of their legs, what they do with their legs,
what they do outside the pocket. He's shown you that, Hey,
I can do all that, especially especially when I got
to get outside of that pocket then. But boy I
can will and deal it with his arm too.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
You know, let me ask you something, when do we
when does the guy officially not become.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
A rookie.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Four games next year?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah? Well old games and four games because it's some corolan.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Don't get me wrong, there's some guys that play above
the rookie status their first year.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
But I think you're talking about it.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
You talking about like when do we like when do
we los talking about from a not a literal thing
at that point life coming from a from like when you.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
It depends on it depends on how they come in,
how they play.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Because now quarterbacks come with fifty five almost like so much.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
And then you got some guys who be in the
league a long time, they still rookies because they still.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Now I was just saying, it's still a rookie, But
so when do we stop saying as a rookie, I mean,
he's still a rookie. Ye.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
A lot of these things gonna be first time.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Experience because you got to think about it. And I
ain't mean to cut you out. I want to say
this to me. I'm I'm gonna give him the same
grace period that gave me. You know what I mean
my rookie season, which I didn't even have a rookie
season because I missed half of that year. I missed
the whole year. I'm playing the last four games, which
I was just out there. But they say you got
a year and four games. And the reason why I

(18:25):
think they gave us that grace period because now saves
you do play the whole year like Jayden did this
ya next year the four first four game, four or
five games is gonna be very critical because now you're
going to see how the whole league adjust to what
you did year and now what you do now. So
now what we're gonna do with you is allow you
that grace period because you're not going to expect the

(18:47):
drastic change and how they play you. But we're gonna
give you time to say, all right, you saw week one,
you saw week two, How can you change or show
us that you now you're taking what being seen or
given and change in your game or adapting your game
to how they playing you. So that's why I say
a year and four games, because now next year, that's
the first thing we're going to say, how do Jay

(19:08):
and adjust coming off of that, have had a whole
year to Yeah, these teams thirdy you, they gonna basically
know what your your your your pro the pros and
the cars of your game, and then now they're gonna attack.
And so I'm gonna have to give him that grace period.
But if you want to say what he's played like
this year, yeah, definitely haven't played like one.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, to play like a rookie. I'm about to take
this dub off, man, because we got to switch. Get
the drift time, baby, jump in here. Yeah, I'm gonna
left handed. You drive, You drive Caddy Well.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Drive, got a drive of black Man. You're going to
the motive city, Babe, blaxing force. All Right, fellas, y'all
know what time it is? Drive Drive Time. Present it
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Speaker 3 (19:52):
And guess what you.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Already mentioned it man, we talked about you know, the
last time we want to playoff game was two thousand
and five and sixth season, actually wanted to two thousand
and six. It was against the same team, Tampa Bay Bucks,
y'all on the road, you know, kind of in the
same fashion. You know, that game was a seventeen ten
game and it was one on defense. You know, Sean Taylor,
we had actually three turnovers that game. I'm believing Sean

(20:14):
cappadoff with a touchdown. Just give me your whole when
it comes to what was the feeling. I'm a put
like this because all it's been the situations are winning
a game, going to the second round.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
As a player, what is that feeling like?

Speaker 5 (20:29):
You know, we just talked about how we felt about it,
watching it and being a part of it from the
eye from the sea winning. Now, what is the feeling
as a player knowing that, hey, we just went in
won our first round of the playoffs, and we're going
to see whoever's next in the second round.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Well, you should have started with blue because you know,
we know, let me let me look over here. I'm
not even get it to that. Put us in barrier
on the Super Bowls. Put up this barrier to this.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
You know what, man, it's that sense of all right,
you first is getting into the playoffs, then you won.
But then you start to get into the second round
and our possibility is like we can do this thing.
So the team starts to get a little more confidence,
but you also know that the competition and who you're
gonna face it's.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Gonna be much better.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
You know, we saw a few blowouts in week one
of the playoffs, and it's always.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Like that around the league.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Week two, the team you plan it is either one
a division or that nice right, So for me, it
was just like more and more locked in. Now you know,
I only went to the second round and the next
cry that's gonna talk gonna tell you how escalated.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
I'm gonap in front of him because I don't want
to hear what you got to say to'na say I
got out.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
You know, you know we that, like we said before
on the show, that it feels good, your family feels good.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Everything is sins to escalates a little more man especial.
I'm gonna be real, I'm gonna want I'm gonna put
that in context. It's special because one, you know, as players,
you take it for granted. You think you're going to
see this all the time. Yeah, that is as a
young buck in New York. I went to the playoffs.
Like I said, my first year, I didn't even play,
and we went to the playoffs that year, and by
that time, I was healthy enough to put on a uniform.

(22:18):
So they throwing me out there in the game, and
I'm like, man, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Ready to be out here, you know. But but to
your point, we had that old five team. We thought
we was gonna come back and have it. Really, know
what I'm saying, So you can't take it for granted.
So that was the first year you came right, No,
he came.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Over, seven, had to come in. They bring him, brought
me in here to clean up. I didn't want to
hear all that. But that's episode is that defense. Just
to get to my.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Point, man, it's special, man, because like I said before,
you know, as players miss a lot of guys that
don't see the playoffs until late in their career. And
it's a guy too on this team that just that
first rodeo and this is the first rodeo and they've
been in the league, you know, beyond five years. So
when I first got that experience of win and then
a playoff game was year two for me. It was
my first real year of playing. We actually played at home,

(23:05):
so I got a chance to play at home. I
was in New York and we got a chance to
play against the mighty Coachs. I mean, Peyton was running,
they was hitting on all cylinders. They had you know,
my man regguating from a you know from my college
out there, my classmate Egrian Jamie in the backfield. They
had Harrison out there, and they had Peyton at quarterback,
and you got and you name it, Dallas Clock and
the crew. So to beat them at home and then

(23:27):
to say we're going to the second round, bro Like
it was like one of those things like Tanner back
in them days. I just looked at it as a
regular game. I didn't know how meaningful it it was.
And until we went and faced who we faced in
the second round, and I believe it was Oakland. We
went to Oakland and lost that game, and we lost
it barely. You know, it wasn't like they just you know,
we lost. It was a close game. But when I

(23:49):
left the game, that's when.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
I really realized, Man, I took this lightly, because yeah,
Oakland lost to the Patriots and the probably lost too.
What year was it that was they probably lost to
the Ravens. No, because I believe they went to the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Played Bucks and.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yes they made it to the so so it was
just like one of them things, man Like, it was like, man,
you know, this team, this team here had gotten to
a point that I went to the postseason my first
year as a rookie, and I went to the postseason
as the second year.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
We won a game.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
And so I'm saying to myself, well, next year, I'm
gonna be back. I'm gonna be back. So I can
just imagine the guys today, you know, for the guys
for the first time, for the guys who've been here before. Man,
it's a special thing to do, especially on the road,
but to get a win now, I'm hoping that they
have that mindset, especially for the guys who've been here before,
that we don't take this for granted because you don't

(24:47):
get the chance to see the especially you know, as
being Redskins slash Commanders.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
We don't. We don't, we don't.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
We didn't get a lot of this. And I'm hoping
that this new regime has put it in like in
our culture, not only are we going to be this
way as players, and we're gonna play this way, but
this is what we're gonna expect, playoff wins, playoff burst,
you know.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
No.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
So the reason why I said, you know, say you
guys for save me last.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Because for a divisional game, second round game. The only
times I played in the divisional game we had byes.
We had first round byes.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
It was like we had already one. So we're the
number one seed both times playing.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
That's three other times that I played in the in
the first round of the playoffs, we lost, you know us,
once with US, once was here until twice on the roll,
once with Saint Louis, once with twice, twice twice here
one home won the road, and then Sat Louis we
lost on the road.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
And I asked you a question to that to.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
That point for the fans out there, like when you
need that you get healthy of that bye, but did
you feel like that time off and sometimes her teams or.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
It depends on your team and how you We went
hard in our week off okay, yeah, our week off.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
For practice, so we had.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
We played the week eight team will Wiz Week sixteen
back then, so we had to win that last game
even though we won fourteen games, we still needed to
win that game.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
See on field advantage. I want to see because Minnesota
we had some really.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Competitive practice against you tell ones on ones, ones against
ones against good So a lot of teams can't get rusty,
especially if they kind of don't handle that process right.
Either either you play poorly or you play outside our
standing because you're well rested, your rested w playing at
home in those cases, but we end up both times

(26:49):
we blew our Minnesota and then who I think we
beat green Bay pretty bad.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
The second time, but we handled the right way. I'm
not sure how Detroit's going to have those coach Dick
for Mill. We're talking about who was Dick Vermill one
year and then Mike Marsh. So it's gonna be interesting
to see how the Lions come out having that. I
say this though, for us, it's almost good that we
continue to play because of how hot we are, the
momentum that we have and team. You think about when

(27:16):
we had that bye week, we came back and we
played we played the Cowboys Cowboys, and we didn't play well.
We had we had who we played before the Tennessee.
You know, we actually want to we can't ten see.
After the by we lost it. We lost in the route,
we lost to Philly, Yeah, Pitt.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
We lost the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Before the Cowboys, we won all that game after the
back Yeah, okay, so one of the I felt.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Like we didn't play well after that buye. However, I.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Believe we played in New Orleans after the bye.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Okay, Yeah, so we little slug whatever the case may be.
So yeah, you know that that part, that piece of
it can be.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I'm glad that we're continuing to play and we got
momentum rolling, staying in that routine.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Well, speaking of you know who we're playing, you know
this time around, and the Detroit Lions they look like man,
I mean we've been talking about them, you know, at
the beginning of the season, about them they're gonna be
in this situation. And to see that we here and
it's crazy because we was there for the draft and
I remember being in that MGM hotel and listen to
some Detroit fans and the guy he just he knew

(28:20):
of me. He saw me walking by Moss, let me
take a picture with you. And I took a picture
with him and he say, yeah, man, you know our
Lion's gonna our line when the super Bowl is yet.
He was like, y'all pretty tough to man, y'all gonna
be all right, y'all gotta get y'all, y'all gonna be
good to me. Y'all get a quarterback in there. And
I'm like, I this guy knew what he was talking
about right right fast forward to today. That's gonna be
the matchup, you know, in the second round. And I

(28:43):
want to ask you guys, you know we you know,
our team facing against the Detroit Lions that seemed to
be high powered or they lost what two games this
year or one? Two games? Yeah, two games this year?
What are some of your fondest memories of facing the
Detroit Lions?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Man, I always bought against Detroit, was you know looking
at these stats I got, uh, I had the safety
against them, three sacks, seventy tackles, eight tackles for lost,
three past defense.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I got as many past defenses as you blew.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Three three times, don't But I always and I always
enjoyed playing in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Seems like I played. We played against him a lot
in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Great environment, I mean that, I will say this, that environment,
it would be the most hostile that we'll face all
season long.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
No.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I like Detroit's environment too, but that's the environment. It's
that these fans man know this, so you us.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
We get a chance to go up there like we've
been traveling, you know, because we played there a couple
of times where when they're not doing well, they being
that thing make them get quiet.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
But I would say, man, we shot we shut the
Detroit Lions out on the Monday night football game.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I think that's uh, that's probably. But I also had
the closer when you I think you scored the public.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Was that we talked seven?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, I remember that it was that was returned. It
was with on give coach Gibbs.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
It was seven.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
But when the game that you returned to punt I
closed out the shut the game down by tackling uh tackling.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Uh, I love it.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
The Hall of Fame receiver Calvin Johnson. Johnson that was
I wasn't No. Seven, It was after man, it was
after that. So that was those are two.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Here's what I think about Detroit. We always talked about
like teams that take on the personality of the city.
You can think of Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Philly, Oakland, Detroit to
your point, Detroit. You know they you know, they dial
hard man, they're rough, cold, midwestern man, angry. I don't

(31:10):
really like Detroit because of Michigan. Have some Michigan fans
in there. But but you're right, man, Like my finest
memories of Detroit is then gritty. You know, they even
when they're not good, they're like, feel like a little gritty.
We'll bring a little toughness to it. And I remember
us playing that in seven. I was, yeah, that was
the year you returned the punt. We were smacking them

(31:32):
on defense of course.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Seven.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, we played in We played seven because that's so
tough game, but we beat them.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
It's crazy, I know that you're talking about. When I
returned to punt it won, oh seven, it was with
on because in Pittsburgh after that, because I.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Remember that was that was old nine.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
I thought we opened up it was actually you're right,
it was on first year.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah, that that was a game winner. That was a game.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
But here at home, right, remember because we also went
up there when you was on the team.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I was on them both times.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Yeah, so you were here still in eight, okay, so
you're still here then but yeh see, I played them
from the Jet years and here probably like six times total,
six times, and I have some great games against him,
Like I actually looked forward to going up there and.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Playing put up some numbers on these boys.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Yeah, and you know that's four touchdowns as a Redskin
and I got one as a Jet, So I have
five five touchdowns six yards.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, my numbers wasn't that impressive because I never got balls. Yeah,
most of the balls went to the other side. Who
who was on the other side?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
You know, I bet you, I bet you did. The
balls didn't go to me.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Fact checked out on fact checked that to get anybody
what what else you got.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
I'm just saying, like I always look forward to playing
against those guys, so you know, but you know, memories wise,
my favorite game was the game I had the two
touchdowns up there, had one as a receiver, and I
remember getting the pump return. I actually got surprised that
I was gonna be on the pump return that day.
Danny smil hit me like he's chewing on that gun.

(33:15):
Charny got one in you.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
I'm like, I'm on the sideline.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
I'm just sitting there relaxing. He gonna come get me on.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Hey, I need that.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
I need that from you because what we're struggling offenly
was close today.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
We need this part.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
And I get out there, Damn Devin Thomas to make
it matters worse. I get out there for the first
time all year, and then I catched the punt, you know, clean.
But Devin Thomas and his guy runs smacking Timmy, and
so I bounced off it spun out of it, and
they think, you know, boy, I started cutting up turf,
and I remember running to the ends. I'm not just

(33:52):
ran this damn dang back man, and I got to
the sideline.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
If I'm not mistake, it might have been one of
my key blocks on the double to.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Get out of here.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
In fact, might have no shine.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
You know.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I'm gonna tell you it was. I was. It was Devin.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
It was Devin Thomas, and it was call those rogers
out there on the other side. One No, it was
on one side and calls on the other side.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
So we went on the field. Tell you this on
the side ship.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
Three three down, put the brook in.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
No.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
But I'll tell you this Danny. After that game, I
remember Danny's like, we need one of them every game.
You need at least one every week. So I'm like, damn,
I don't I got a job.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
You thought you had.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
I had turned behind me review mirror. But no, man,
it's just something about playing them guys. And then you know,
I ain't always trying to light on our good moments.
But I remember Detroit was they had to win the game,
and it came it came down to us. Man, we said, good,
I'm bringing memories of Man, I'm gonna do it the
right way.

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Speaker 2 (37:09):
See we talked about man that that Lions team, they
got special. They got some dudes, man, especially offense.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
We got a challenge. This probably be the toughest Philly got.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Philly got weapons too, so Philly got this. What I
would say, they're probably equally. It's from a challenge.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
I can look at I can look at Gibbs being
as special as a sad Yeah, you know what I mean.
It's scary to see what Gibbs, you know, been doing. Everybody.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
They got receivers to both of them. I'll stand off, Yeah,
both of them all out stand offensive lines. Yeah, I'm
gonna start with you on this one. How do we
slow down this Lin's offense.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
That's been a challenge that's been given a whole bunch
of decordinators.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Up at night.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
But for me, man, if you're a coordinator, normally say you,
I'm gonna stop this guy Sat Brown or the Gibbs
or Daved Montgomery, or I'm attack the quarterback and attack
their line.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Man.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
They balanced. This is one of the teams that like
not only talented, but they're balanced. And for me, it's
not as much as I'm going to stop them, it's
a few things that we got to think about. How
do we get them to make one mistake or two
mistakes and let's accept the fact they might score. But
that's the limit those scores that we're not gonna let

(38:30):
them just get over the top explosive plays just marched
down the field.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
You got to earn it.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
In the playoffs, you got to earn it. And then
when they get down in the red zone, you got
to make them earn it. Can you come away with
field goals? And second, you know, you think about Ben
Johnson shout out to probably everybody's talking about he's the
best coordinated in the league right now with the play
calling for.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
The last few years.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
And then you talk about he's from the Shanahan But
how patient? I very but like, how patient can it be?
Can we can we make Jared Goff, who's like you
talked about Tannis a spot thrower.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Can we show them different looks Joe Brady?

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Can we show them a too high rolldown to a
single to get an extra man in the box and
maybe stop the run on first down?

Speaker 3 (39:17):
So I think it's gonna be a lot of.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Back and forth with two great coordinators Joe Wett Ben Johnson, right,
And I think it's accepting the fact that they're gonna
make they gonna move the ball up and down the field.
But when they get the reds on and y'all not
walking out of here with a test down, y'all, y'all,
let's get you three and get off the field, you know, and.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Being but breaking but don't break that all kind of
mentality on defense, I think, because it's gonna be hard
to stop somebody that is so efficient on offense the
way they are when it comes to the god receivers.
You got a tight end their court for over seven
hundred quarters. You got you got a running back that

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you know, one is fourteen hundred something, take the top
off of the you guys. Another running back that's a
bruiser that they get the ball to in the red zone,
like they have a guy for an offensive line that's
most and then the offensive line can move the ball.
So you gotta have that being but not break mentality.
But I think the way you really count on what
they do offensively is you sustaining the ball on offense.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
A good point.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
You know. One of the things we did when we
went to Tampa, you know, we had that seventeen nineteen
plate drive, you know what I mean. I think it
was seventeen plays right then we're talking about coming out
of you had that long drive, you had the nine
minutes something on the clock that you basically you know,
ran and then you went out there and you know,
put up points with it. So you have to have
that kind of mentality like, look, we got to keep

(40:39):
these chains moving, you know. And I'm not I'm not
against scoring from far out. You know we can score.
We're gonna sco score because this is kype of team
that's gonna do the same thing. But I think what
when you see them not be their best is when
you get Jade Jared Goff off boundance, when you get
him kind of not being himself and he's a guy
that is what us.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
He's played this year.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
There's been games even when they even when they want
him at the end.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
But he gave you a chance. But you're going to
put the ball and win.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
To clarify though, like so you're saying like you got
to keep the offense off the field. Does that mean
but does that mean you you slow it down or
you still stay aggressive to try to score.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
You have to say you gotta win the time of possession.
I'm not saying I'm not saying you have to.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Just I'm not saying that we can't hit our explosives
when it's time to hit our explosives. If you hit
the explosive, play and we scored it so good. But
I'm saying when you're when you're sustaining drifts, it's moving
to change. You know what I mean by any means possible.
Just know what we did last week. We moved the change.
We turn ways without a run game to move the change.
I want to see our run game kind of play
play a key part of helping our offense sustain those

(41:51):
drafts by moving.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
When you look at the Lions in this offense, you
have to it's gonna be a similar approach like we
did that we had against the Philadelphia Eagles, especially when
we played them the first time in Philly.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
They were they were moving the balls between the twenties.
You guys are saying the same thing. Hey make them
kick field goals, make the murder. But the difference between
Detroit and Philly is they get down in certain parts.
Again it's four down territory. Yeah, they're extremes. You gotta
win third down and fourth pounds down. That's gonna be
the mentality. Like you you you have to play four

(42:23):
downs against this team and win those downs, especially you
don't you can't have them in a bunch of fourth,
fourth and two's, fourth and ones. You need to have
them in some fourth You think about third down and
versus the typical explain that what you mean by that?

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Look, well, it actually dictates every down.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
You got to think about it because you can't have
you can't give up seven yards on first down, not
in second and second and three thirty three third down.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
They can run it now.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
So knowing hey, if we get one two yards, we're
gonna still go for the fourth down. So you have
to going there with a mentality, I gotta win. I
gotta be great on first down, sacond down to get
them into third and I would say six plus, you gotta,
you gotta, you gotta keep them a thirty six plus
and from there they need to be fourth to three

(43:15):
or four, especially as they get on the plus plus
side of the fifty, because they're very aggressive.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Do you think that can be backfire all that time?

Speaker 4 (43:24):
I believe that backfire on well, well, I also look
at it like this too, this offense and kind of
touched on this we were off camera. You talked about
how you can see the Kyle Shanahan aspect to Mike
Shanahan aspect of this offense. It starts with the run game. Yeah, yep,
so what am I gonna stop. I'm gonna stop Jamiir
Gibbs in that run game. I'm gonna stop them first,

(43:48):
and then hey, we're gonna have to play a little bit. Man,
We're gonna have to mix it up, but we're gonna
have to commit more resources to stopping give don't show it.
Yeah you can, ye, guys, absolutely, you're gonna show your.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Shall and then more rotate to uh, you know, safety
down in the box, different things, you know, how you
find our looks, all those types of things.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
So you got to mix it up from that standpoint.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
But it almost have to be the same type of
mentality like they had against the the type of Bay Buccaneers,
Like we cannot let the game get going early, especially
when you got an explosive player like jamiirn He's special.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
So let's let's get them. Let's let's stop that run,
get them in third and longer.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
You know, you know what's unique to and I know
we do talking about the first flash, but I will
say that Jim Jamior Gibbs like you like how you
compare to say Kwan. But I will say Ama Saint Brown.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
How do we contain them? Yeah, I was about to
say Williams. Williams is deep Sat Brown.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
I would say this man, he's one of those guys
that he's a dog. He moves and changed, bro like
it's been a while since.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I seen it.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
They move him around. Deebo Samuel's man like.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
You know what though, I think.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Him and Mark and Marshawn, he's still you know, feeling
this way. He missed a lot of time, so he
was rustling. I expect him to be a lot better
in this game than he was against the It might
it might be a good match up because of my Amrah.
He's not a speed speed guy, but real physical strong
as well.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
So it might be a situation where you might start
uh marshan out on him, let him get physical with him.
He can, They're gonna be it's gonna be a physic Yeah,
So that might be. That might be a really good matchup.
And you got you can have you know, even Mikey.
Now you there might be a strict difference with Mikey
because he plays extremely physical, So yeah, I think you

(45:45):
you hit him with a couple of different bodies and
go from there. You don't want You also may not
with with Jamison Williams. He's gonna run deep, so he's
gonna be you gotta worry about that. But those are guys.
They got David Montgomery the other back. He might be
back to c L Tas coming back.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
He's one of them guys though. I mean Montgomery, I
think you.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Know I'm looking forward.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
You talk about that run game and that stretch, and
they do that pin and pull a lot. We got
to see Jonathan and the big boy, the big boys
and the big boys inside. They gotta play for the
whole defensive, but the interior for they will they will
if you can't have some type of penetration on inside Detroit.

(46:30):
Will they any type of team that will beat you
up all day? They have no problem doing that.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Oh, I like a physical type of battle. Man.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
You got big Fletch about the big big Fletcher. Let's
flip it to our offense versus their d yes.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Lies. They give us th yards in the past. Yeah,
they do.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
They very aggressive, single high, don't don't don't disguise it.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
They they know that they banged up, they don't care.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
And to your point we were talking earlier, maybe because
they know their offense is gonna score, so they are relentless.
And you know, when you think about uh, I like
the guys that robertson on the outside.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah he's he's an undersized guy.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
But you're talking about gritty and tough, the young first
round corner out of Alabama. They in the safety. Joseph's
got down inceptions. He's he's gonna be All Pro this year.
But but with all that being said, I think that
they style of playing with Aaron Glenny's play, I think

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we can take advantage of one.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Our receivers are hot right now. Ye two. I like
the match up on Zach Er against any of their linebackers. Now,
Azeloney is a good cover linebacker, that he's good, but
I take Zach Er. I like to take and Jayden
that when you play man, your biggest night man is

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a quarterback who can scramble.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Yeah, especially yeah that that is scary coming into the game.
So it's gonna be interesting to see if they go.
You know what, we might have to think about it
because you start turning your back and you start press
coverature and a quarterback and then you out there playing
duck dut goose that that had caused you to want
to fight your teammates on the out there takes around receivers,
all pro receivers.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
For for you know, five minutes. Man.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
So it's gonna be interesting. And I'm assuming Aaron gonna
do what he do. Yeah, yeah, ain't gonna be creative
and he, you know, Aaron glenn Is.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
To me, it's crazy that he hasn't been a head
coach already because I feel like he's been coaching on
this level for a while, you know, especially when he
was he was with the Saints, you know, being that
decordating and the Jets.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Yeah, he was my teammate, Okay, and then you're gonna
do that man like that on the Monday night football.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
He got me ready, man, he got me ready for that.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
When I was a young book, he was the quarter
he followed me around. I was a Jet man's I'm
gonna get you ready. And I love what he's been
doing as a decoordinated man. So I know he's gonna
bring it, you know what I mean, He's gonna be
ready for what we got you know, offensively, and I
just feel like, man, we got this.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
You know. One of the things that I love that
Dan Quinn and his.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
Style preachers it's not about them, it's about us. So
when it's all about us, man, go out and do
what we do, you know, and I see us kind
of you know, last week it was a struggle to
get that run game going. But but but the lord
that we did do, yeah, it made their defense. You know,
I'll tell you this.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I'll tell you this about the run game. Man.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Yeah, you want to have a high yards per carry
average and all those types of things, but what's more.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Important is volume. The volume of run the reason why
we ran the ball. I think thirty two times about game.
You know, didn't didn't have a great line, a lot
of yards. But what it does is it makes the
defense front still have to work back. Then keep him honeys,
keep him minus. If I know you've given a completely
abandon your run game. Now it's a defense. I'm pinning

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my ears, rushing up, I'm getting wire. There's three techniques.
I'm bringing more pressures. But now you also saw, because
we stayed to the run so much, there was times
on first and team we were able to get play
action passed and get we got some players play action
shots because of the fact that we were so committed

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to running game.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
It might have been running the ball.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
It might have been, hey we only get one yard,
getting two yards three, We did run the ball when
we need to.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Especially in the.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Austin Decker got an eight yard and carry on that
fine four yards here and there too. Yeah, time, So
you know, just to get back to it, That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
Like, you know, as long as we keep them honest
and show them the effort, show them the attempt that
we're going to do it now they don't know what's coming.
And then when you have the effect of a Jane
Dames that can actually get outside of that pocket, you
know what I mean, that's gonna be key too.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
And you know what running the ball also, except the clock.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
When past the ball, you have an incompletion clock on
stop picking the completions the wide receivers. Our boys have
been balling, man particularly, we're gonna have a We're gonna
have the im on the show later on to day Manner,
what did you see Actually you kind of predicted that the.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Pregame, Well, it wasn't.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
It wasn't even you know, And I don't want to
make it sound like I predicted him having a good game,
but I just like his skill set. You got to
have different whiteouts, and has always been a difference maker.
But I think at times he just haven't lived up
to what they wanted to see from him. And you know,
sometimes there's guys like that. He might be fast, you

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might have stretched the feel, you might have you know,
he might have the catch raders all that stuff going from,
but just hasn't settled down into the package and accepted
this role.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
And sometimes that's interesting, man, because you never you never,
I never. I've learned that been in the NFL. But
accepting your role.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
You can't force somebody to be a starter if they're
not showing showing you the maturity that they're ready for that.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
That's what I mean to do when you come out
of a or and accept the role as a bird
or third or backup guy.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
But I can tell you like this, I think him
having to swallow his pride a little bit and be
where he's at today in this offense allowed what I've
seen all the while from him to kind of come
out a little bit. You see what I'm saying, Like,
sometimes you got to be put in your place, and
I think Dianmi is one of those guys. He's very confident.
You know, he's a part of blue Foot family. You know,

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he's very confident. So but but no, at the same time,
he's a guy that and then also you could just
put it like this, everybody's offense doesn't work for you,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
So he was in some offenses that didn't work.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
So who's to say that him not being a part
of the first team wouldn't work this this in this offense.
But I just feel that, you know, that pregame little
thing I talked about last week about him, I just
basically mentioned saying, man, I believe he's a game changer.
I believe he's a guy that if you give him
a chance, you know, he can do some special things
with the ball in his hand. And I kind of

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praised the fact that, you know, when you look at
his targets this year, all though a lot of them
with slip screens, he caught thirty or forty, you know
what I mean. And then you add that game, you know,
a few more five more. So that was that stood
out to me that this guy has accepted anything and
everything that they gave him this year and been that
been that guy for us at times. I mean he
made some key first down so this entire season, and

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a key touchdown for us in a critical game.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
So that's what I saw.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
And then not to say that that was going to
carry over into that playoff game, but it just did that.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
It did just that.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
And you mentioned, I mean thirty six play where got
to have it. We got the ball and got the
ball with like on that drive our game win a drive.
It's thirty six and it's probably still maybe three minutes
and over three minutes left on the clock.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
It was close almost four minutes left right when we
first got the ball. Yeah, it was. It was.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
We got the ball with four forty one after we
ran our first couple of players getting on that third
dollar was getting close to around three minute mark, critical
thirty six and they go to Diami.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
I mean Terry served as a as a clearout right.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
The army was the primary target on that and catch
it a dig for twenty one yards and it gets
us to the forty five yard line on other Buccaneers.
So to get your number call and that and that
motion and that and that standpoint and that junction of
the game that's that goes.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
That's big for him.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I say this about this team and it starts with
Dan Quinn and what I love about this football team,
and it's it's all about the whole, the mantra of
anybody anywhere, any time, And what he has done is
he's given this team a belief and a confidence that
they feel like they can go anywhere and win a game.

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And it's been evident and they can win any game
and any type of any style in any fashion. You
don't have those the wins that we've had the last
five weeks, where all of them have come down to
the final play of the game without a great confidence
and we're gonna do this. This was gonna happen and
we're gonna win the game. But it starts with the preparation.

(55:10):
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Speaker 2 (56:39):
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Speaker 4 (56:44):
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Speaker 3 (56:45):
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Speaker 2 (56:51):
Wildcard weekend game against Taba Bay had a touchdown a
couple big other other games. What was it like for
you to have what has been what was your best
game of the season in a critical playoff game like that.

Speaker 7 (57:04):
Man, First, I'm grateful just to be out there and
have the opportunity. Not too many people can't even get
the opportunity to playing that that type of game. You know,
the previous years we haven't been there. Yeah, you know,
so just being grateful for the opportunity. But at the
end of the day, you know, like the mentality was different,
you know, So that's pretty much what it was.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
Well, I want to put this out here because it
was crazy that I actually got a chance to talk
about the receivers in our pregame show and I mentioned you,
and I spoke highly of you, and I think of
BC or somebody b C like, damn you feel you
feel confident about I say, no, I believe he's a
he's a game changer. I believe you're a playmaker, and
I love the role that they kind of had for

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you this year. I feel like you exceeded, you know
what I mean in that role. Well, but I want
to ask you, what was it like or what is
it like when you get an opportunity to go out
there and not only just come in and do your
thing for a couple of plays, but to have more
of a role, because it seemed to me at one
point in that game, they was like, no, don't come out,
you hot right now?

Speaker 7 (58:04):
Yeah, Like like for me, it was just basically just man,
them trusted me like that, you know, just for them
to be like, okay, you got it. And for me
it was like accepting that role, you know, and it
was kind of hard, you know, kind of accepting what
it was at first, but at the end of the day,
just that opportunity giving you know, with the role that
they give me. Like at first it was a couple

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of screens, a couple of screens. Man, Look, you know,
I ain't really trying to keep running screens, but you
know what I'm saying, But like just just accepting it,
you know, and not trying to have a negative mindset
about it. It was just always accepting that role because.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
You never know, ye know.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
And we talked about this staff obviously DQ coming in
and we talked about the defend coach with Bobby Ingram's
my teammate in Seattle.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Oh yeah, from as you've been a help to your
game and help you shape your games.

Speaker 7 (58:55):
Man, really just not changing me, you know, just he
found out where my strengths were and just helping me
build off that, like being quick, being explosive and then
being strong as the way I am, you know, and
those type of things being in that physical game, being
a physical player.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
You know, those are things that help me out.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I was thinking about this and a lot has been
It was a lot of highlight plays that took point
that people talk about in years down the road about
the game against Tape of Bang. The biggest play I
think third and six got to have it moment and
you hit a play call and you know you're the
primary on that that you run that deep twenty yard

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dig route that when you heard that play call, like
and they knew, hey, and the most important play of
the game, they're going to you.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
How did you?

Speaker 3 (59:42):
How did you feel about that?

Speaker 7 (59:44):
Man, man, look, I don't I don't let nothing get
too high. Yeah, you know, I don't let the moment
get too big. And at that point, it just play
the play, yeah, you know, because if it's called for me,
it's called for me. And just go out there and
made that play and it was a big third down
something that we needed, you know. So at the end
of the day, you know, I always want to go
out there and be poised, you know, be controlled, be balanced.

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I don't want to go out there, oh man, stuff
like like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
I just want to go out there and play.

Speaker 7 (01:00:12):
And that's it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
You said something about being poised, you know. That's something
that I think we talked about all year about just
watching as Fred called him Jedi five.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
Oh yeah, my god.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
What has it been like, man, I mean it's I mean,
he's he's wild and all us when it comes to
just not only his play, his maturity, you know what
I mean, his confidence.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
His will.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
You know, what has it been like for you as
a player to be in that huddle, or not only
be in the huddle, but to have this experience this
year with a young quarterback, the young phenom like Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 7 (01:00:46):
Man it's a blessing, you know. And and how how
he carried himself is I'm not no rookie, right, and
then he wants to be the guy. He wants the
ball at the end. He want to finish the things
that he wants to do. It was making him great
right now and just being a part of that the
energy feed off, right, that's something that we we do

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that every day. We're gonna finish. We're gonna be the one.
We want to be the one that's the moment different
too big play at the end, that's what we want
to do.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
So is it safe to say that basically he's he's
lift up everybody's basically energy and not only energy, but
just confidence in what they can go out there and
do together.

Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
Man, you said it right, I'm telling you this, and
it's different and you can see it in everybody's face.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Well, he beat there and he commanded already.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
That's and when we all, yeah, we talk about it
like you guys talk about two quests, two things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Then you just brought up something.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
One is obviously you was in the game the first
game against Tampa and then you've seen Jad's maturity towards
the last game y'all just played. So obviously you've seen
how he's developing. What how coach feels compliable, comfortable in
calling the plays.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Thing is the brotherhood, man. We always been talking about
him with Terry and the brotherhood.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Man, So talk to us about, like one, how you've
seen the offense kind of develop and then y'all trust
each other in the brotherhood, y'all have.

Speaker 7 (01:02:12):
Oh man, speaking on that first game, like I told Terry, like, man,
don't even trip because it was like a low target
game for everybody and one't really I said, Man, he's
still learning right now. And what he fell back on
was his legs. That's what he trusted at the time.
But that's fine. I'd rather have it early on then
later on, you know what I'm saying. So just and

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then us communicate with him the things that we see,
the things.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
That he see. You know, their brotherhood.

Speaker 7 (01:02:38):
We came together, you know, and you can see a change.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 7 (01:02:42):
Learners were all on the same page. We can make
big things.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Have interesting fact.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Your dad Charlie Brown, right, yeah, grandmother's married right, yeah,
his grandmother Mary and my mom, all his family. He
don't even know that all our families from Williamsborough, Virginia,
and his grandmother married my mom and second cousins. Yeah,
you tell you, Charlie Brown. I've been knowing Ronda and
them since I was a little. Boy's dad was you

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don't even know that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Somebody else, boy Teresa Si that blue man.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
He right was a hooper.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Yeah he was a basketball player. He tell you, Rona Seneca,
all them. His grandma married my mom.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
They talking, He's gonna see my grandma on Facebook all
the time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Right, sure.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
You tell me that was my tell me cousin names
blue even know you were blue fort of cousin.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
That's what.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
His nickname is, Bluefoot. So anyway, so that so how
it goes like them's family. Our family is from what
we call East Willsburgh, Williamsburg. So the last of this
and the Downs and all them they grew up. So
my mom and his grandma grew up together. They are
all best friends and stuff like that. I didn't even
know that they came up here and they told me.
It was like, you know, that's a Ronda and uh

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Charlie Brown and uh some different facts.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
What I'm saying, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
Because I've been knowing when I was a little boy
Charlie and Charlie is much older than them and played
basketball and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
But I was a little boy, so I remember.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
I just remember them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
It's been known for they you know super Yeah, you
don't know suit from you know what I'm saying, like, yes,
that's what's in fact, our families like at.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
You never know what you're getting on the Players Club,
and that's what happens many. We appreciate you, Jordan us
well as you know you've been here before. We like
to have all our guests and signing football for us man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Hey, I know this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I can't wait to see how you guys playing and
you ball out in in Detroit on Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Stay tuned you hot man. I work you. You playing
with speed and like confidence and everything. Hey, you know
what last week I said, we'll see y'all next week,
same time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I'm make it that addiction. We'll see y'all next week,
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