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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
I don't know if he's especially he's here, Frederick.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We missed you already, We miss you already. We got
a big show on deck, fellas. It's alumni weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
What you call it, old guys, it's the old Guys collection,
Old Guys collection. We're part of that collection.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, we're gonna be talking about the greatest to ever
wear the Burguney and go, fred you're not on.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It, you.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Talking obviously, got to talk to Hall of Famer Dale
Green and his jersey retirement which will take place at
this weekend's game against the Carolina Panthers, which.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Will and we'll preview that game against the Panthers.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And then last but not least, we got Johnny Newton. Yeah,
you gonna join us on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, he got a new opportunity with Johnny al and
going down things popping.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
With that being said, man, let's get it popping on
this week's Players Club with Felers.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
You know every week we had a segment of dubs.
Other week, you know we're gonna basically recap who got
a dub or who knew we get what individual player
or you can say the core that you want to
give a dub from our previous game. So looking back
at that Ravens game, I know there's nothing that we
can take out of that but our team for the
(01:43):
hard But who's one of the guys orders order at
the side of the ball that you want to give
a dub to?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know, first of all, we got so used to
getting dubs. Man, it's kind of different. We don't want
to get used to this. Give our individuals. I would
say this though, I thought Jayden Daniels, Yeah, Jade Daiels,
he's gonna.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Get the double the week.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
When you look at him and that ball game against
the Ravens especially, I would say maybe from the middle
of the second quarter on saddled down starting to make
some plays, he has some some throws on the sideline.
I know, you got to appreciate this as a as
a wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
That young and you know his career.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh yeah, So it was some.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Balls like some cors, some comebacks on the sideline, put
it the only way to where to receive we catch it.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
The touchdown throw, the last.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
One of Terry mccorn. Both those throws are outstanding. It's
hard to watch that game, even though it was a loss,
not to give Jayden Dalliels a.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Double week My double we goes to his potting and
crime Terry McLaurin. I just feel like their relationship you
can see it growing each and every quarter, each and
every game. And you talked about their last pass. Man,
I'm a defensive back. Sometime passes out you can't defend them,
like when you throw the ball at the time he did,
Terry was not even coming out of his break at
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the time. The soft spot where he put that ball in.
It was either Terry or nobody gets their ball. So
just their connection. So I want to get Terry, and
I'm sure Terry is really loving the momentumly getting specially
with all the ups and the downs he's dealt with
from the quarterback position. Just watching them grow has been
one of those things where I'm like, how they're gonna
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be at the game sixteen, Game fifteen. This is this
is the beginning of something special. I think, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Think we're gonna keep it on the same side of
the ball, you know, with my dub other week. I'm
gonna stick with the offense as a whole. Yeah, I
think offensively, man, you look at it. It wasn't until
that day of the game when I found that Bee
Rod wasn't gonna play. So I'm pretty sure that they
said something that night before. I wasn't paying attention. But
when I got there and I heard that Bee robers down,
I was like.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Okay, you know, we have the guys.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But I also understood that the Ravens was known for
kind of being stopping and run one game, so I
was wondering how he was going to get this done without,
you know, being I guess you can say having our bill,
our bell cow, but I think collectively, man, you could
add Kingsbury into this too. They still went out there
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and got the job there to a degree, you know
what I mean. It wasn't they didn't come out with
the outcome that we wanted. But for you not to
have the guy that you miss stuff from that ball
into it, and then you think about they had a
stat going into this game where I'm not sure how
far it was, but every time we rushed for thirty
or more carries, we won those games. And going into
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this game, you look at it. We ended that game
with I believe eighteen and so to me, that was
the deciding factor of why we wasn't able to probably
get over the hump in that game and get a
couple more scores in there. So offensively, you know, missing
that kind of I guess you can say physicality his
physical part of the game. We'll still go out there
and go toe to toe. I had to get them
(04:50):
a dub as a whole schmood. You bring up a
great point. You mentioned the physicality also double the week. Yeah,
I think we should mentioned this guy Noel Brown. Yeah,
no Brown played really good.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Nobody ever talks about past interference times goes this, We
get a thirty thirty five yard pass interference, So you know,
I know it, don't it don't come fast year, but man,
it's a difference, man.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
And it was a third down passing the fence but
missing and mintioning and physicality. And I talked about this
on the on the Booth Review podcast. With Brown not
having b Robs, so those runs, obviously we only had
eighteen carries would had I'm thinking at least Brob gonna
have fifteen carris mean forward on all of them exactly,
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so where it might be instead of a thirty six,
it might be thirty three thirty three.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, so a.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Lot more managed, easy, manageable, down the distance, time of possession.
Now starting to us favor us a little bit more.
The Ravens aren't on the field as long, our defense
maybe doesn't get worn down as much of the game.
The dynamic the Florida game changes a lot when you're
when you have a guy like b Rob in that game,
and there's times where hey, it's not blocked up, correct,
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he just batter.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It wears on the defensive line as the game goes on.
Now you know, I love, but he's more finessed in
power when you when you hit that power. Because you
gotta realize we talking about the race. We talked about
a team who labeled himself our physicality. So at the
end of the day, we go into that physical game
not having our physical batting ram and I think it
kind of set us back when it came to the offense.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And that's why I say as a whole, you get
the offense collectively, because you know, I'm gonna talk a
little bit about you know, Cliff, you saw a couple
of those series.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Man, where they had our number.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I mean, right, we can do you know, and a
couple of times I believe if especially earlier in the game,
if Jayden let.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Ekler has it, he hits him. Yeah, I mean there
was one way.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
And then those guys are sitting right there wait for him.
So you know, they came into the game saying, you're
not going to be with some.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Of the store. We'll let the backs do it.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
This guys can have it, but you're not gonna beat us.
So with that being said, Cliffs still found the way.
I remember I had been sending for weeks that slip
screen goal coming all coy coming. Well, I never knew
that you can send two guys on the same side.
You and then you know Terry behind him. That's you know,
that creative. You know, ability to go out there and
(07:21):
called plays is second to none, man, And I think
he's been showing that weekend and weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Speaking of creative, the fleet flicker back to the screen
to the rudder, back to Eckler. I was like, man,
I've seen a lot of football, Really, do I see
something that I haven't seen before.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That was my first time seeing that.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Not only this, seeing that being done the way it's
been done. It's just like those guys are in unisonse blocking,
like they just everybody following the plan, doing their assignment.
That's what stands out the most when you look at
this team as a whole, you know, that's you know,
we're talking about you know, individuals and talking about this
one side, you know, with this dubble, the weak thing.
But I think if you look at what we've been
doing as a team, that's why we're getting the national
(08:02):
you know conversation. We in that national conversation now because
as a whole, collectively, those guys are out there. You know,
you can see the coaching come into play.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
That's why I got to say Kingsbury, because he's doing
a great job a week by week layering the playbook.
He's layering the playbook. He gives him one, two, three
more things every week to watch this playbook grow. So
it's crazy to watch watch now all right.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Fellas we're gonna move on to drive Time or drive times.
Drive It's time for drive Time, presented by Eastern Automotive Crew,
Any car, anyway, for everyone since nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Drive Time.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
This week we will be talking about the weekend of
the Alumni weekend.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Old people, old people, wee can which which we are
part of. Now.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I think we're crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I think we mid age because if d Green them
and Joe sixties, they out a senior city where we
are right there in that middle group right.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
There, because we can relate to the younger, younger.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I mean, you know, we can relate to We're not
old old, we can relate to him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
But what's funny about it, you know, especially this weekend
as one of the things that I've always got a
kick out of. It's just so you know, those guys
have so many great memories from just winning championships, yeah,
just the history itself. Man, it's always great to be
around them. But when you do get around them, you
get it's like they kind of cling to us, Like
you could say that, you know, it's one thing of
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us being able to relate to the guys that's still playing.
They relate to us and we just got out the game,
you know what I mean. So I've always got a
kick out of just being around especially guys like Gary
Clark or you know, D Green or you name it,
or some of those guys are thisman.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
He's always a good I love.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
He's gonna get a corner and he's gonna talk your ear.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, I love.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
But he's always got some good insight to share with
you about the team and about some of the things
that went on. Uh, my question about this alone, now
we can do you guys remember the first I guess
you could say alumni when you got here on this team,
who kind of kind of lend a hand, like he
basically reached out to you and kind of gave you
some some insight on the game or.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Just something about the history of That's crazy you asked
that question, because it's about the man of the hour.
Is D Green? Like when I walked into the locker room,
they were like D Green, this friend smooth Fred smooth,
this D Green? De Green? You watch him.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm not about you put that on.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
You're not gonna what is the siment? So what was
he doing? He didn't mention that De Green didn't want
to watch him. I won't say, you know, somebody kid
off at your house and my kids know this what
it was, and I can say this man, Darren was
very open, very honest to me, and he also put
(10:54):
something inside me when it was because I was already
gonna be a community dude, but he let me know
how serious it will. He was like, your play it's
gonna make you remember through football, but what you do
in this community gonna make you remember forever. And that
stuck with me from the time I got here to then.
And he was just always I could always just ask
him questions. I remember Champ was watching me watch him
(11:16):
on Dead Green one day and he was like, I'm sorry,
but you can't there Green And I was like, what
you mean. He was like, don't study him because he
is the only person that can do those things. And
I had an old locker room. You gotta realized I
had Bruce Schmilt, I had so many old dudes. We
would call the old folks Homer Ashburn. At day, I
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was the youngest person on the team. But man, just
anything I needed, he was always there. You know, I
was as you asked were asking that question.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I started thinking about some of the alumni that I
first met when I when I got here in O seven.
One guy who me, being a middle linebacker, I got
to talk to every week. It's Sam Huff, Sam Hall
of Fame, Hall of Fame linebacker, the late Sam Huff.
And when I found out he was doing, he was
(12:06):
calling the games.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
He was the radio.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Analyst with the job that I do now him and
him and Sunny jer Jerkison. So for me being able
to talk to Sam Huff, I mean, this is it's
like I'm a football historical, especially when it comes to
the middle linebackers.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
So, man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Talking to him and we just had it like a
Kendrick spirit, like we were talking and just it was.
He would tell me stories about him going against Jim
Brown and and you.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Know, knocking.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
This was still on the couch with him and Sunny
all the time.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Man, he would he would tell me story talking about
how you hit Jim Brown and I can't use the work,
he said. One of one of the best gifts I
ever got, un solicited, Sam Huff gave me an autograph
black and white photo of him that I still.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Have to this day.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I don't have a lot of other people stuff in
my house because you know, Sam Huff is one of
the few people that I have in my house that's
not that's not me speak about you.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Well, yeah, you know, I mean none other than Gary.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You know Gary.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
It was funny because I remember coming here. You know,
when you get traded somewhere, it's always like okay, you know,
we know he got talent. But you know, people don't
open up to you out the gate before you hear it.
Before I even got acclimated with the team, Gary reached
out like, hey, what's up?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
But how you doing? Man? I watch a game, you
know what I mean? I like your game. Boom boom boom.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Now, after that scenason I had, next time I saw
him again, you know, and I woul see him periodically
throughout the year. He saw me, I was like, bro,
I didn't know your love and and he's like, bro,
you can play with us. You gotta you gotta or
about yourself that.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I just love that man. I love that sweat.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And you know, the first thing starts saying, yo, swag, man,
you got to you gotta sould about yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Man, just something your game.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
And I'm laughing about it as he talking to me,
because I'm thinking about discanny. He won't even here at
the time, but he all he's staying with me as
an old man, got an old man soul, you know
what I'm saying. But I would just always take in
take He didn't know that I appreciated those moments, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I want to share a little story because I'm anna
ask y'all next segment about the funnies, give me a
funny story. But I'm gonna share mines first. You know
how these seasons are in the season, you know, you don't,
I mean, you don't always have your season always goes playing.
And it was a year two thousand and seven. It
might have been your first year here, the same year
Sean you know all left us. My season was rocky.
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Bro I had got injured her early. I had a
growing strain. You know how that is when you get worded.
I just can't get back in my head. I'm going
out there. You know, long story short, you know, we
in these games and I'm just like Bro, I'm out
of it, and I mentally I'm out of it, frustrated,
you name it.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
All the all the bove Gary Klark.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Came to speak to the team. We all circled up
on the field. I'll never forget this. I'm I'm dead
front front row in the cinema on my knee and
he said, we're eighty nine now. I'm like, I'm like,
I'm in the classroom right here. He say, where the
hell that freaky first down there?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah? I remember that, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Like, bro, I swear if you the saw felt like
I just like sweat like a deep goat. Like he said, Bro,
when you do that, I do that, and I need
to see that that was a that was a that
was a calling me out in front of him. And
I'm sitting there saying to myself, I didn't take it
like no, I took it like I should have.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Sayt up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
And I remember going out to that next game and
that I made We made her run and I.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Was a part of that run.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Every week I showed up and I was making plays, touchdown,
having my yard because I put all that stuff behind me,
which that's what I needed to do. So that's like
something that I always take with me.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Man. Gary was always there.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
He was a guy that you know, letting his hand
the first day I got here and to this day,
when we see each other man in passing me, we
always have stories and we always share a little moment.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
So I got to get I got one more guy,
I guy ray Brown. Alright, listen, I love me something flavor.
You're playing when we.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Got played against Ray Ray.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Brown, played against Ray Nitsky.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
The team and on seven when you got heah.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He was gone.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Ray was always one of them guys smooth, you need anything,
you need to know, anything, you need me to help
you with anything, just always there. He loved the joke,
so he my guy, and I used to always call
him another professor because he looked like So. I love
me some Ray Brown, when I say genuine to the core.
One of the best people ever met him real quick.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Since we're telling stories, So I'm playing with the rams
Ray Brown with the forty nine ers, this old flat,
old big flat I was I was before crossing. So
We're playing, were playing the forty nine and I'm cussing
up a storm, cussing everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I don't know, forty nine ers. Ray gonna say, it's
like a time out.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
He's like, London, why you cussed so much? What you
say back to.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Right? Right? Bright, I can see you doing it. I
can see you doing it too.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
That I just I couldn't like control myself product my
ego would allow me to be like, yeah, you're right,
I can see you doing the walking.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's am right, Brian.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I would do is pre Christ was a long long,
long time ago.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Speaking of seven, you know I brought up O seven.
What do you guys remember about that wild card game
up in Seattle? Man, You know, we we got a
chance to go to the playoffs again. We always talk
about every time we got in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
You always seeattle Man Temple the two teams we've ever
seen the play We just had so much momentum. Yeah,
we had a lot of momentum. We're playing some some
were playing above our head on defense, like we're just
we're just.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We're playing with about two calls.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And when I say we are going in and were like,
we don't care if they know we and man, man,
this is what we're gonna do. This is how we're
gonna do it. And we let that game get away
from us. Man, we had that game.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I remember they were throwing that damn football to Uh.
We played a lot of cover to body was still
playing there right Ingham. He was still there, Thank you, Alexander.
He was running back. I remember that we were playing
a lot of cover too, and obviously our Sam single
it's his favorite bliss.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
They were throwing it. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
They were having a lot of perimeter type plays and
I wasn't able to get in on a lot of tacks.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
So I was pissed. I don't think I have about because.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
You would get right down, man. Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I was hot as fish great.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So I finally got a hold of shan Hime Alexander
one time.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
It was I tried to well, I did give me
a good old hit off helsel back. I thought I
had took him out the game. Yeah, I thought I
had single handedly won that game for us. I think.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Now we didn't win the game, but I remember offensively,
or rather, Todd Collins was willing to deal and we
got I talked about us coming there with momentum.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Todd was on fire. Chief.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I loved it, especially just being a receiver, knowing that
one of the things people finally realize is that you
as a receiver, Fred bringers up all the time. You know,
you as good as your quarterback, or you as good
as the play call.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
At whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
You at the mercy of their hands. You know, if
the guy gonna throw you the ball find you, you know,
if he give you the opportunity, then great. If you don't,
then you out there just running around and Todd would
find me. I mean, I actually scored that game, and
I remember, like we said, we talked about Sean leaving
us that year. It's a picture that still to this
day I signed. Every time I'm doing a you know,
autograph signing. You see me in that back of the
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end zone. I'm holding the deuce one up high and
it's just it's beautiful because you know, Seattle was really
it's a beautiful skyline and just the stadium itself.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You see the two to one, And.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
To me that when I see that picture, I get
choked up some times, like damn, because I remember when
my head was that, Yeah, you know, I was gone, right,
let me.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Ask you all this and I felt like this.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
So after Sean passes, Yeah, we go to his funeral
on that Monday, we played the Buffalo. We played No
he passed on a Monday or Tuesday. Monday, played Buffalo
that Sunday, to his funeral that Monday, yea. Then we
played it. We played chicagourday night. Yeah, we beat Chicago,
going to four game winning streak. Did you all feel like,
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so we go, we win, we win, Uh make the
playoffs and then we go to Seattle on a Saturday?
Like everything was did y'all feel like, man, you was
playing off of emotions?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
It was so it was hot?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, high.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Then just getting into that game was like, man, do
we if we play on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Do we finished? Do we close that game?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I just felt like it was just on such a
high emotional I.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Just think I think the perfect approach to me was
to get us out there early because we we was
on such a high and it wasn't a sugar high,
it's it maintain. Yeah, And I just think if we
would have got out there, we'd have been more established,
more single focus. We were focused, like worried about our
focus at the time. It was our football Like. That
(21:31):
was one of the few times I've seen everybody. Yeah
we were lockball emotions. Yeah we was emotionally driven, but
it was good emotions. We ain't finnah cheat each other,
that's what we did.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That was the one time too that you can say
our team looked like a team. You know, it brought
us together because I guess every man had a gut
check of how how short, like what can you do?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Man?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I mean like or not even that, just this life
because I know myself personally, you know, you speed like
when we played this game, folks for the realize because
now I look back at it, because I'm watching all
the guys who are not able to kind of land
on their feet when this thing is over, and it
bothers me a little bit because I'm like, man, we're fortunate.
One of the things about us, you know, one of
the things you don't have to necessarily have this out
(22:15):
standing job after football, especially if that's football being your life.
Go some football, Go go go give your time to
high school, your time to the little league if all
you know is football. But it's great to be able
to say you landed and have something that you can
just keep you busy, because that's what we need more
than anything. You keep your mind from just wondering wondering.
And that's what to me. You know, when you say
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we play ball, it's like you get that short time
off when you back. So I was speeding through life
like life ain't started lifing me into football.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I was over with.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, I'm sitting there like, what did I do when
these bills or this came up with somebody else calling
me the bill?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
What was I doing? Somebody?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
We were so focused on what we were Yeah, man,
somebody was running interference and ye didn't get them damn calls.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
We get those calls and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
So, yeah, that's what I appreciated more. And I think
I kind of, you know, buckled down a little bit
more about myself, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And that first coach gil was was the perfect coach
to have it. I don't know how many coaches could
uh could coach us through that, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I think he was the perfect guy. Coach Gils was
the perfect coach. That was.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I just I just remember, like man, just the emotions
that we were dealing with and going out there. And
I think you reminded me that we were talking about
this maybe last year.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I forgot that we had to lead in the fourth
quarter of that game.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
No, didn't watch the game like it's just like hours.
It was our.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Actually threw a pick down the sideline, right, I was
the guy who they was throwing to. I remember, and
the ball got lost in the lights, and I'm like,
this is what we talk about all the time, knowing
the guy, knowing the receiver, me and Todd on the
same page. He just threw a goal, but the guy
was thirty yards deep on me already. So I'm saying
to myself, just throw it at me. And so I
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was running not as fast as I would want you,
because I'm like, I can't run this guy down and
didn't leave him. It's gonna be one of them. If
you throw it deep, You're both not gonna get it.
So I'm gonna give you a chance to throw it
to me by running on and down at a different
pace where you can get depending on my back shoulder.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
And I remember he swung that thing and I was
looking up for it. I'm still looking, and I hear
them hate the crowd room.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, the corner back at the ball running towards me,
and I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying. So
that's what I remember the most too, you know about
that game, Just knowing that, I think that's when it slipped.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
That's when it kind of got away from us.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I want to I want to go back, ask y'all kind,
especially you and maybe even you smooth as well. For
me come in here and playing for the Burget didn't
go playing for the Redskins at that time, and Tanner,
you got traded here.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I was a free agent.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I knew the history that this organiization, half the legacy players,
and having been a three time Super Bowl champion and
all that playing for the legendary coach Joe Gibbs. I
felt a great sense of pride, like man, me as
a free agent, Like, I'm not gonna come here and
be a bust.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You ain't gonna be.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
It ain't what's your name?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
My name, ain't gonna be one of those long line
of free agent busts that that comes.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Like.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I felt a great deal responsibility and just with this
being alumni weekend, it's maybe just think like like I
took pride in like representing the guys played before me.
Like man, y'all, when y'all see they talking about the
sign of the me, I'm gonna be one of them. Dudes,
Tell how did you feel? Have you got trade?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I had a chip.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I didn't necessarily have a chip from being traded. I
thought that was the best thing in my life that
was the best day that you know, far as football
wise professionally. Yeah, Like I told you how I felt
about New York. You know, I actually grew up there,
like playing four years there, man, I became a man.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So when it was all said and done, when I left,
I knew I did my all, my best, and I
knew the fans appreciated.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
So that's what I was.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I was happy to say I'm leaving here as a success,
coming in as a first round pick, because they basically
telling me we just don't want to pay you to
next year.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
But my age, like, you.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Know, you exceeded that contract. Now this time is up.
You pay us now. Oh, we're gonna go get the money.
So when I left, I left knowing like I did
my job to get paid, but I had a chip
for the simple fact that when I got here, a
couple of media folks didn't receive me as the person
I was coming in there. Like I told you, a
lady I forgot her name, I'm gonna bring it up,
but it's no no offense to her. She was doing
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doing her job, but she didn't even know she stirred
something in my pot, you know what I mean. She
came in and said, so, how does it feel like
to be wanted? And I'm like what, I'm like, I
want to say something else that being me respectful.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I'm like, well, I don't think I wasn't want.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
They just paid me to come here, you know, as
a top receiver, so I'm definitely wanting. She's like, well,
you know what I mean, you know you was a
first round draft pick. I say, well, you're trying to
get me out my damn character. But I said, look here, man,
I'm happy. I say, you know, the grassat isn't always greener,
but I think for my case, this is a team
that wanted me. This is a team that feels like
they can use me the way I want to be used,
and I think this guy's the limit and took off
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that season.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
It was it was like, man, it.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Was like it was like a highlight every week for me,
you know what I mean? Like that that if you
turn that two thousand and five season on, it wasn't
a week that eighty nine wasn't making, you know, an impact.
So I look back at it like, see, that's all
she had to do. But she didn't even have to
do that.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Like she asked the question differently because I feel.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I'm not even gonna put all that on her. I
just feel like it was just perfect timing for me. Man,
Like I had did all I can do over in
New York. I just came off a playoff or run
two years in the world, we went to the playoffs.
Remind you, I was there for four years. I went
three out of four years to the playoff. So it
was it was a thing for me to go to
the playoffs. So coming here, I brought that energy and
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we went to the playoffs, you know what I'm saying.
So yeah, but I enjoyed it. I didn't know the
history like you as much. I knew the names. I
knew the Arn't Monks, I knew the Gary Clarks, I
knew something I knew than I knew. You know, Doug Williams,
I knew that, and I knew the Super Bowls. But
I didn't know like these guys. Like in the late
eighties early nineties.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
It was like world in.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Cleveland, man watching the Hog, watching John Riggins, Yeah, watching
Dexter Manley.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
See, I like y'all. You know, we brought y'all low here.
I was born. I heard my name called on dram Day,
it said you're headed to Washington. So when I got here,
just to get here and to be welcome by Doug
Williams and the guys that did so much, I was
just I was blown away. But it also was like,
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hey man, it's a standard. It's a standard here, and
I need to play to that standard. I need to
show them that they didn't waste this pick. Then I
actually left, and like you say, the grand sain't always
Greenham on the other side, and I had to call
Coach Gibbs to get traded back here. I really appreciate
not just the football, not just the history. I enjoyed
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the d m V as a whole, like everything about this.
So I enjoyed my cowboy rivalries. I enjoyed every inch
of it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
So that's a.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Great segue into if we had to do a Washington
football players Mount Rushmore rush, who would be so four guys,
each one of us get to put our Mount Rushmore
of Washington players.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Frederick, let's start with you.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
All right. Of course it starts with the great d
Green He is the a pity me. He could be
the logo if he wanted to. He has missed to
Washington second, you got to go Sammy Ba slinging Sammy Ba.
Now the third one, I was like, all right, do
I put dextra manly right there?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You want to show you the listen.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I got a photograph, a memory, I see everybody on there.
But then I was like, should I go dish to manly?
We are really known for these hogs? Do I do?
I need to put Rush grimm your list though, So
after Semiby, I'm gonna go dexter manly because I'm a
defensive player, even though I know I should be putting
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a hog right thereby should be putting a hog right there.
And then the last spot, I'm gonna give it to
somebody if I will playing time in this shunning Taylor,
that's tough too. I'm gonna go. So Joe Gibbs gonna
go number one? Yeah for me? Yeah see, I thought
it was all players.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Nobody said I could put up.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Everybody know the long time trainer this team. He's kept
four generations healthy. So we don't get here with that
Bubba titles.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
So I'm gonna put coach Gibbs first. Second, I'm gonna
go with Bobby Minchell. Forget I met the guy that
I broke his long time record when I got him
my first year, and it was crazy that he was
still around him and his wife was still around. It
was years later that I got a chance to meet
him and I was actually walking we had that We
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was at the Gaylord Hotel and he came and spoke
with us and she saw me out.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
She's like, you sent telling them all. She I'm like, yeah,
she's like, we watch you.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
She's like, you broke my husband record and I always
wanted to meet you because you're a nice dude. And
I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying made me
feel good. So I got to put him up there.
I went back and had to watch film on him,
and I heard the story about him being one of.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
The first first ain't try to do that list maybe
listened to.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
So I got Joe, I got Bobby Third. I say,
I told you I was gonna get defense Wise. I
just feel like, you know, it's nobody that's the Manley
was just like one of those guys. To this day,
I don't I can't wrap my head around right. He's
not a you know, Hall of Famer, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Same reason Joja Kobe not London, not they look over
the Washington football players.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
It's crazy and and I know, like you said, this
is our this is just our list. I gave him three,
so four, I'm gonna go with one our receivers. I'm
gonna say Art Monk, right.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
The quiet, Arthur Monk. I could have put Gary up there.
I could have put the list. So there's so many
guys we could have put up there.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So Joe Gibbs, yeah, architect of three.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, exactly, it was our players, players club, not the
coaching club. Coach Gibbs, three time Super Bowl winning head coach.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
M hm, he's he's on the mound. Rush Moore. Bobby Mitchell.
I'm going Bobby Mitchell again, just because of what he
did African American player to ever playing this franchise. Ye,
I'm going with I'm going Bobby Mitchell. This is where
it starts to get interested when you get I'm going degree.
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He spent twenty years in this franchise, So you got
to put him on there. Now, my fourth guy, That's
that's the tough one. I think since none of us
put a hog on there, you're gonna have to go
hard to put this.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
List.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I want to I want to go Sam Huff.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
However, Sam had a story career in New York, probably
more of his career with New York played in New
York before he got the Washington So Sonny Jackson, Sonny, Yes, Sonny's.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Depressions years old.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Let me look at this thing.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You got, christ Hembur, You got like so many dude,
Like I feel so much pressure.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
What was the conerback that came in and curse every
time he spoke?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
What not him? You know the Conerba old guy he
played back in the day. Oh wait, dude, he just
passed away.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
All my fourth guy.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
That's just show you how this history is.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
When you think about the Hogs, you think about John Rigas,
you think of you.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Think about the Jersey getting tour he runs through people.
Get this is always gonna be in your mind.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That's a tough list, man.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Know, I'm sorry. You can't really put pick four like
it's hard to pick four people.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
I mean you can only just say, you know, like
you say our list. You know what I mean I mean.
But you can't get it right because it's going to
be a guy. Somebody's gonna be left to somebody. He
left Joe Gibbs man and he talked about I know
that now.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
No story of how coach came back to coaching, No,
we don't. All right, check this out, tell everybody coach
Spurrier had retired. Remember abruptly, I am driving, gives me
a call and say we want you to do an
interview that you do you know your coach? I remember
I wanted to hear it and I was like okay.
I was like, I'm near Atlanta. They were like, stopping
to see an N building? So I stopped at to
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see an N building. They put the mic in my
face and they say how you feel about Spurrir quitting? Like,
we don't care, We're gonna look forward to the new coach.
And they were like, well, who's gonna be your new coach?
I said, the only person that can say what is
Joe Gibbs And coach happened to be watching ESPN with
his wife, but he had he had already told I
think somebody his family a year earlier that I really
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thinking about going back to coaching. So he was like
what Schmooth did was making to where time he said
my name. Ms. Gibbs asked him, do you want to
go back to coach. So he was like, thank you
for not having me having that talk to her. So
I called the coach back, so he always we gotta
get used, We gotta get your welcome. My brother Jason Rushmore,
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I just thought it was all players. Man.
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Speaker 1 (37:27):
You're listening to the Players Club presented by Pepsi this weekend. Man, Yeah,
big game obviously gets Carolina Paths. I'm not weekend and
it's not just alumni weekend Number twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Never be worn again, Never be worn again?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Why it took so long? That's another But what does
that mean? I'm gonna start with you, smooth, because you
play with them.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, Cheryl twenty years.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
One of the fastest man, one of the greatest players
to not just play in this franchise any in the
national basketball an iconic player, jersey going up and to
never be one again. How does that make you feel?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
It's unbelievable that I'm a little bitty part of his
long story, right. It's like I remember my first day
when they drafted me. The first thing I did was
look at the depth chart. I think all of us
do that, and I was like, damn Green, the understand
that's Champ Bailey. Am I playing tighty end if I'm watching, like,
what am I playing? So I remember when I first
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walked in and me and Daryl sat down and talk.
I told you about how they kind of introduced this
and and Daryl was talking and he was like, I
like your game. And he was like, you know, we're
gonna have we have this little contest. We used to
have all the time. It was the fastest Washington player contest.
See you want to always talk about speed. So we
get to the race, right, we ain't we it's dominicator,
It's just amnicaire. We get to the race. The last
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three races after everybody eliminated me, Champ Bailey.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
And Darryl Green.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Darren hadn't ran. He hadn't ran yet cause they said
that you could just run the last one, right. I
was like, Champ, you.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Had you won any races or did you had already won?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
My way to that everybody I know, everybody on the team.
I raced the channel up. But anyway, so now it's
the last three race and it's me champing degree and
I was like, Champ, we can't let we can't lift
forty year o. D Green beat us. She was like, hey,
he ain't no regular Fordio. So we strike out and
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of course I'm looking at the back of these two
gods were running. I'm like this dude, like when I
say fast, it was unbelievable how fast he was and
it was effortless. He wasn't he wasn't struggling. So I
take a knee after the race, and I'm like, did
I just lose to a forty year old man? But did?
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Like Chill said, that ain't no average for that, So
he was a wonder. He was a blur. And then
get what I do did after I go back and
watch him race hrs Walker? Yeah, and I said, you
know what, I earned that butt kicking. I earned that boocket.
So just amazing person, but an athlete. I have never
seen an athlete with that type of longevity Like long
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Gip nineteen consecutive years with an interception? Fleish, Did you
have any year you didn't have an interception? Yeah? I
know you did.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I know you did, but I have more sticks.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
You agree, say, got hold on?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You mentioned did I must have participated that day? You
wouldn't have been in that topic.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
I wouldn't been. He had already lost one total told
he was already he said, you know here.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Time, Oh my god, I was going to tell Fred,
being a guy, that he always researching something. That's one
one day that he dropped the ball with research because
I wouldn't gotten that race not knowing that they are
Greening the fast man in the world.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I knew he was, but you got to realize and
I hated with it because he over the cock right,
all right? He used to be a four to two
four one. Yeah, I didn't know he was still a
four to at this time. Like that's what I underestimated him.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
You didn't even have to tell me the story. I
knew you came in last year.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
It soon as I heard, I know, I'm like, shouldn't win? Then? Yeah?
Were your calling me?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
You wasn't even close third.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
I was third, man, I could say in race with
damn Green, I came in third, and it was only
three before before.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
You have me and this man.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Let me show my little you know sentiments. You know
about number twenty eight. I think you know, I didn't
have no big story about saying I played with him, Yeah,
played against.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Him all I remember growing up.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
You know, you talked about how you've been a big
historian about the you know, the game, just knowing linebackers,
knowing about the game.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I was just a player watcher, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Like I would watch players on teams that had an impact,
and it just you know, caught my eye. Dion, Daryl
Green and Rod Woods with three corners.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
That I wanted to be.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
I grew up starting my early childhood, I played corner
and receiver.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
So those three guys always stood out, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
As I get older, you get the Charles Woodson's everybody
else they kind of changed, the Champ Bailey's, you name it.
But the thing, man, when I got into the league
in two thousand and one, Dark Green was still over here,
and I'm like, hell playing I was in pamples when
he was playing, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
So that's what stood out to me the most.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
And I think not only that, when I go back
and kind of like pay attention to what he did,
how long he did it, you know, when he was
when that last year that I remember watching him, he
still was out there making plays.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah. Man, that's you know, that's enough.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
You know, credit right there for itself, because you understand
how this game goes, man, And when you get up
in those years, it's hard to be that guy you
once was. And I remember that's one of the things
that I kind of kind of you know, had a
bop in my my, you know, and my walk about
when I was leaving out cause I'm like, man, I'm
still out here, you know, embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
People kids at my age.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
So if I can still go out there and make
you Mama mad at me, then I'm doing my job.
So I know Darrek green is one of those guys,
and that's it's crazy. When I got here and over
the time he connected with me, and to this day
I see some places he always says, telling I'm passing
you the torch. You guy, You're the guy in the
community now that.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
People look at like how they looked at me.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I'm will tell you a really quick Daryl Greene story
about how he is as a man.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
So this was twenty thirteen, I believe twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Season, and this is a season where we're struggling a
little bit, and they were asked it was like the
Meetia was talking about his RG three R leader of
something and such and such, and I've made the comment
like he's not the leader, Like I'm a leader.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, And so Daryl Green, he you know, said well, London,
you know he can't.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Be the leader.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
He didn't say this to me, he said it on
the on the radio, and I kind of took it
the wrong way, and so you know, Darryl word got
big got back to Daryl that I wasn't happy with
what he said and came to tell you how he is.
He called me, He's like London, you know what. Man,
and we had we had a relationship before then. We
talked know each other a little bit like, man, we're
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about to sit and talk, were about to have a conversation,
really get to know each other. Yeah, and we cleared
the air of some like miscommunication like I was disappointed
to like.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Here a look just like damn, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I was trying to take the pressure.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
The young guy.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
But he's like, you known you too old to be
the guy, you know. So it was just a little
bit like all right. So but me and him, we said,
we talked for probably about an hour and a half
just I mean, yeah, man, man and I left that
comments like we were in a better place and not
not like we were beef and beefing. But it was
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just like two because I had a tremendous somebody.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Of respect for him, Like damn, damn. You know.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah, I'm a young guy man, but just a tremendous
Hall of Fame player, even better person, even better person,
even better person. As I mentioned, Jersey should have been retired.
But that's not that's neither here nor there. I can't
really wait to celebrate him.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Crazy that I shared a huddle with him. I just
remember him coming out the huddle and he would be
teaching me, we'll come.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Don't put that on him.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
He'll be like, hey, watch out, they try to hit
him with a double post. It's third and five. They
coming outside, They ain't gonna come inside. Like just stuff.
That really made it easy for my transition.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
And you did okay, he did help because you got
paid by Minnesota and then once you got out on
your own, once you're here, once you left there, that's
the difference.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
But when I got here, he made it easy for
me so fast.
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We got to get back on the winning track, winning ways.
A lot of stuff going into the game. On paper,
I think we're favorite. I think we're favored by seven
eight points.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Will will pay a whole lot of attention to that.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Fair love Vegas handled it. Guys.
Speaker 8 (46:43):
This Panthers team, they can run the ball. Yep, they say,
Dojers team up Hubbard. Yeah, third of the National Football
League running the football. We got with down some defensive linemen.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
And they offensive line strength and they have a very
good offensive line. They got they get out there wide receiver,
they got a tight end Johnson, they got tight end
and Sanders that can get up the scene. And let's
be honest, Andy Dalton has kind of revived this team season.
So he is a veteran quarterback like Joe Flacco, he
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ain't gonna beat himself. You're gonna have to force him
into mistakes. And one thing that I think with this
paramount that we do and if we don't do it,
we could be setting ourselves up full trap. We have
to start fast. If we allow these guys to stay
in this game, they gonna the more momentum they bill,
the more they think they're gonna have a chance. They
got some defensive player, jac Horn. They got some guys
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over there that can get after you on that defensive
side of the ball. We gotta start early and often
with this team.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Yeah, I think it's only a trap, man, when you
allowed it allow it to be a trap. You know.
One of the things that I'm hoping that's going for us,
that I've been seeing so far in these first six
weeks of the season, is this team.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Is well coached. Well coach.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
You have a player at almost every position that played
at a high level in this league, and they under
stand just like we understand as players to this day
and guys who no longer plan that that's the only
way you allow a team that don't supposed to beat
you beat you. It's by listening to the noise, listening
to the noise about what they can do, and they
come in here hurt.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
You know, we just lost.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
I think you're probably one of the better things that
happened to us earlier than these first six weeks, because
we was on the high sometime you need to be
brought backack, do you need that gut check to kind
of know who you are and know how much more
better you need to be. We understood that, you know,
that might have been one of the better teams that
we faced this year. You know what I mean them
in Tampa if we had to ask me. But I
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do believe that, Yes, Caroline is gonna come in here
feeling like they feel.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
I believe they wanted five.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
But at the same time they want to be that
throwing in our backside and they say we're going to
be the team that kind of right or take that audience. Coaches,
this staff is not going to allow this team to,
you know, sit here and be less than who they are.
I definitely believe these guys are going to go out
there with a chip every day this weekend, go out
there and play the kind of again.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
And that's the thing that I look at mostly when
you think about first to first, first and foremost d
Q dan Quinn, I don't feel like he would ever
have his team playing up and down like against the
competition that's supposed to be lesser than or up when
the opponent's supposed to be better, like if you look
(49:22):
at this team, they talk about competing all the time,
competing at a high level just to accountability.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
I know I watched a little bit of practice earlier today.
I know that just watching practice, those guys.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
That have out there having a great practice.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Ready to play.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
So I'm not worried about them not being ready to
win a game mentally gain But to your point, Fred,
don't let don't find yourself in a.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Dog fire the team.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, dude, you got it. I will say this.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Defensively, there was enough things we did wrong against the
Baltimore Ravens to where like we got to come in
here and making sure we're on top of our game,
have to run a lot better.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Line.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, with those lost in the defensive line, Carolina pass
is one thing they can do.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
They can they know how to run.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
They're probably be even more committed to running the ball
this week, and they got some guys who can make
some plays in the passing game. We got to be
We had a couple of miscommunications on the back end,
didn't play some things as as well as we would
have liked to against Baltimore. So there's enough things that
we need to correct going into this game and it
wasn't a clean and perfect offensive game, so we need.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
To be better.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
I think we'll be better to play better to play
this game against the Carolina Pathers.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
And I think it was a good Reset week. Reset week.
We know what just happened. Now let's get back on two.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
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Speaker 2 (52:21):
Welcome back to the Players Club.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
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Speaker 4 (52:35):
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Speaker 2 (52:41):
It's great having you on the show. Brothers that play
college football?
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Where you had in the order? Are you the baby brother?
You in the middle, because it always tells me about
a guy with here and the pifore right, All right, understand,
so you have to take a lot. I understand that.
Speaker 9 (52:59):
Man. Once I got big enough, I throwing them right
well them.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
Again, beat up play defensive line. They played different positions.
Speaker 9 (53:07):
I'm the only big one out of my family. I
got our running back, a receiver, outside backer, and my
youngest brother quarterback.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
I grew them all for last left over. Yeah, So
how did it feel, especially when you got here knowing
that you had an X teammate here in Kwan Morton?
You know, did they make it easier? Did you hit
Quan at night or did he hit you up? How
did they go?
Speaker 6 (53:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (53:30):
Me and Kwan hit by five minutes after I got
the call. Yeah, like, man, it's crazy. You know Florida boys,
when you go to college together, all the wherever state
you from, you with them. So me and Kwan was close,
our families know each other. Uh so, it's just crazy.
And then I look ready to.
Speaker 3 (53:50):
I did forget about that. Quan used to be our barber.
But you ain't get no haircuts though.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Come on, so Illinois.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
As you was talking about Illinois, Lovely Smith recruits you
out of high school. I had Lovely Smith as my
defensive coordinator back in Saint Louis.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
My last two thousand and one.
Speaker 9 (54:13):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
What was it like?
Speaker 1 (54:15):
I know what he was like as a decordinator. Man,
Love's outstanding. The Yeah, everybody, they had some boys on
that defense in Illinois they had some dudes.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Dudes.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, what was it like playing for love in Illinois?
Speaker 9 (54:26):
I love Lovey, like you said, football wise, you know
everything like from A to b Uh. It's just didn't
play in our favor with our players. But as a coach,
like on and off the field, me and him still
text to this day. I still tech that's and I
ain't playing for Lovey in what five years? Yeah, I
(54:47):
should just show you who he is as a person.
But on the field, everybody know what he do on
the field.
Speaker 4 (54:53):
Yeah, speaking of guy like Lovely he needs he actually
recruited you there to Illinois. One of the things that
I took pride in when I came into the league.
I was coached by Butch Davis and he was a
former you know NFL coach play you know, coach for
the Cowboys. What were some of the things that you
learned from Lovey that help you with your game today?
Because I'm you know, you look like a guy that
(55:15):
especially coming in the way you got in here and
like as soon as you hit the field was ready,
you know what I'm saying. So what are some of
the things he taught you early? And you know, your
career in college that got you ready.
Speaker 9 (55:25):
Just small things like teaching us how to watch film.
Speaker 7 (55:28):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (55:28):
I feel like that was the biggest thing coming in
as a freshman. You know in high school. You just yeah,
you don't know everybody. We didn't watch him in high school,
so you probably know what that means. Just learning how
to watch him, like how to break it down by
personnel each player. Like, I feel like that was my
biggest thing because I'm a big student of the game.
So even like pre snot recognition, like I learned that
(55:50):
from Lovey. Uh, just small things like uh Like he
always helped me be starting the run game and in
the past game he helped me. I got a past
rush specialist Illinois, and I feel like ever since then
I took off.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
Yeah, it's all about mental. Speaking of mental, when you
got here, it was very simpler to when I got drafted. Here.
My dB room was full of grace. I had Dale Green,
I had Den Sandor Chimp Bailey. You walked in the
defensive tackle room, you got John are at d run pain.
Took me some stuff that you just soaked up from
those guys.
Speaker 9 (56:20):
Yeah, for sure them my big brothers. Uh Man, I
said right next to John, so every meeting, like five,
I mess up on something like I don't even look
the coach. I'll just look right next to got to
be like help me. He was like, I'll just look
at me here and be like, all right, do this
this and this and this and this and then pain
(56:42):
man pain quiet. But whenever he says something, it's like
it'll hit you. Whenever he says something to me and
it's breaking out film like it'd be quiet, but he said,
like everybody go listen. So, uh, just those two guys
just coming in and embracing me, uh, not trying to
be like the bully type O G and big brothers. Yeah, yeah,
(57:02):
I really appreciate those guys for that, and especially John,
like I said, that's my locker maate too, right next
to each other, right next to each other.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
So he just always over your shoulder, right every time
you look around.
Speaker 9 (57:13):
That's my big brother.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
So you know you mentioned John unfortunate injury, he's out
for the season, opportunity for you to step up play
a lot more. Has he talked to you about kind
of you know, what it's going to be like for
you to take that load? Yeah, take this load on?
And are you looking forward to playing a bigger role
on this defense.
Speaker 9 (57:35):
Yeah for sure. I mean if you're a football player,
definitely in the National Football League, it should be every
every player's dreamed to step until that starting role and
to come over and dominate the game. Ever since I've
been playing, I ain't want to just be on the team.
I wanted to be the best player on the team,
best player in the league. So that's that's my goals
and my hosts and the aspirations to come over and
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honestly take over the league. I just don't want to
be another player, like I want to be one of
the great. So, uh, me and John talk Monday before
anything happened, you know, like I said, that's my big brother.
So we had a talk like man like it hurt
my heart honestly because that's my big brother. Yeah, I don't,
won't nothing that happened to nobody in our room. He
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told me, and then he just smiled. It's kind of crazy,
he smiled. He was like, Bro, you got this.
Speaker 3 (58:22):
Bro.
Speaker 9 (58:23):
He's like like, I know, I know who you are.
It's like just trust me. It's like I believe you
and trusting you. It's like, just take over. And I
was like I got your back, bro.
Speaker 3 (58:32):
And that's what That's what they say the new coaching staff.
It's a brotherhood. And I think you could tell you
any time I talked to you out in the individually.
I see that, I hear that. Now you a Floord
the boy I need to know off the field. Give
me some hobbies. You like to fish, you like to like?
What do you do? What do Newton like to do? Anything?
I ain't playing football. I'm just relaxing.
Speaker 9 (58:52):
They're relaxing. Yeah, I ratherly just be zuling. I want
to start fishing. But man, that had so Yeah, I've
been saying I want to start fishing. I like going
on jet skis. I a don't really play too much games. Yeah,
like going on walks. I'm a big nature person.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
I'm a big nature person too. So you got to
go to the Channondoor, go to the Shannon door, go
to the mountains. Tell them Fred smooth sentence. Sometimes it's
just really relaxed. To get you a good old hi kid.
Then you can go to the Shannondoor, go in the mountains,
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go in the cage, do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 4 (59:34):
Speaking of just what are some of the things, man,
you know you're a young guy and coming into one
of to me, one of the best assembled staffs. You know,
we all three of us play this game, and we
know what a great staff is just from what we see.
What are some of the things that you can kind
of you know, I guess you could say put your
hand on that this staff has already taught you, or
(59:57):
just give me a story or two about some of
the things that get you guys ready, because man, the
way you guys are playing, you can honestly see the brotherhood.
You can see you guys out there playing.
Speaker 9 (01:00:06):
For Yeah, for sure, before we did any breakdown, before
we did any play, any huddle, like before the season
even started, Like you could feel the energy right when
you walk in the building, like all the coaches being
interactive in the team meetings, Coach d Q coming in
there bringing that energy. Uh, they just make it fun
like you know normally means you just man, they bringing
(01:00:32):
like they put funny clips in there, like they make
it entertaining to be here. And uh, everybody that's seen
the pregame breakdown by Oos Yeah Boo speaking us hype,
then uh all the Vets be talking pain, don talk
John Allen Oo's don't talked be wax like those guys
(01:00:53):
talking whenever. Like I said, whenever they talk like you
go listen, just go hit you and then ooz come
and break that thing down.
Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Yeah you can't. I want to come back.
Speaker 9 (01:01:04):
Yeah everybody that started from the coaches like they bring
their energy and make all us comfortable enough to be vibe. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Man, Well, we appreciate you joining us on the Players Club,
Johnny All. We have all our guests signing this football
for us if you wouldn't mind, love to see you
put your autograph on it. Looking forward to see you
play not only against the Carolina Paths this Sunday, but
the rest of the season.
Speaker 9 (01:01:29):
Mann, I appreciate you all even having me out here.
Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
We make our prisons known man, Mississippi.
Speaker 9 (01:01:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
I don't know if he's especially he's here, Frederick.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We missed you already, We miss you already. We got
a big show on deck, fellas. It's alumni weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
What you call it, old guys, it's the old Guys collection,
Old Guys collection. We're part of that collection.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, we're gonna be talking about the greatest to ever
wear the Burguney and go, fred you're not on.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It, you.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Talking obviously, got to talk to Hall of Famer Dale
Green and his jersey retirement which will take place at
this weekend's game against the Carolina Panthers, which.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Will and we'll preview that game against the Panthers.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And then last but not least, we got Johnny Newton. Yeah,
you gonna join us on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, he got a new opportunity with Johnny al and
going down things popping.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
With that being said, man, let's get it popping on
this week's Players Club with Felers.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
You know every week we had a segment of dubs.
Other week, you know we're gonna basically recap who got
a dub or who knew we get what individual player
or you can say the core that you want to
give a dub from our previous game. So looking back
at that Ravens game, I know there's nothing that we
can take out of that but our team for the
(01:43):
hard But who's one of the guys orders order at
the side of the ball that you want to give
a dub to?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know, first of all, we got so used to
getting dubs. Man, it's kind of different. We don't want
to get used to this. Give our individuals. I would
say this though, I thought Jayden Daniels, Yeah, Jade Daiels,
he's gonna.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Get the double the week.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
When you look at him and that ball game against
the Ravens especially, I would say maybe from the middle
of the second quarter on saddled down starting to make
some plays, he has some some throws on the sideline.
I know, you got to appreciate this as a as
a wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
That young and you know his career.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh yeah, So it was some.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Balls like some cors, some comebacks on the sideline, put
it the only way to where to receive we catch it.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
The touchdown throw, the last.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
One of Terry mccorn. Both those throws are outstanding. It's
hard to watch that game, even though it was a loss,
not to give Jayden Dalliels a.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Double week My double we goes to his potting and
crime Terry McLaurin. I just feel like their relationship you
can see it growing each and every quarter, each and
every game. And you talked about their last pass. Man,
I'm a defensive back. Sometime passes out you can't defend them,
like when you throw the ball at the time he did,
Terry was not even coming out of his break at
(03:01):
the time. The soft spot where he put that ball in.
It was either Terry or nobody gets their ball. So
just their connection. So I want to get Terry, and
I'm sure Terry is really loving the momentumly getting specially
with all the ups and the downs he's dealt with
from the quarterback position. Just watching them grow has been
one of those things where I'm like, how they're gonna
(03:22):
be at the game sixteen, Game fifteen. This is this
is the beginning of something special. I think, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Think we're gonna keep it on the same side of
the ball, you know, with my dub other week. I'm
gonna stick with the offense as a whole. Yeah, I
think offensively, man, you look at it. It wasn't until
that day of the game when I found that Bee
Rod wasn't gonna play. So I'm pretty sure that they
said something that night before. I wasn't paying attention. But
when I got there and I heard that Bee robers down,
I was like.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Okay, you know, we have the guys.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But I also understood that the Ravens was known for
kind of being stopping and run one game, so I
was wondering how he was going to get this done without,
you know, being I guess you can say having our bill,
our bell cow, but I think collectively, man, you could
add Kingsbury into this too. They still went out there
(04:08):
and got the job there to a degree, you know
what I mean. It wasn't they didn't come out with
the outcome that we wanted. But for you not to
have the guy that you miss stuff from that ball
into it, and then you think about they had a
stat going into this game where I'm not sure how
far it was, but every time we rushed for thirty
or more carries, we won those games. And going into
(04:30):
this game, you look at it. We ended that game
with I believe eighteen and so to me, that was
the deciding factor of why we wasn't able to probably
get over the hump in that game and get a
couple more scores in there. So offensively, you know, missing
that kind of I guess you can say physicality his
physical part of the game. We'll still go out there
and go toe to toe. I had to get them
(04:50):
a dub as a whole schmood. You bring up a
great point. You mentioned the physicality also double the week. Yeah,
I think we should mentioned this guy Noel Brown. Yeah,
no Brown played really good.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Nobody ever talks about past interference times goes this, We
get a thirty thirty five yard pass interference, So you know,
I know it, don't it don't come fast year, but man,
it's a difference, man.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
And it was a third down passing the fence but
missing and mintioning and physicality. And I talked about this
on the on the Booth Review podcast. With Brown not
having b Robs, so those runs, obviously we only had
eighteen carries would had I'm thinking at least Brob gonna
have fifteen carris mean forward on all of them exactly,
(05:36):
so where it might be instead of a thirty six,
it might be thirty three thirty three.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, so a.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Lot more managed, easy, manageable, down the distance, time of possession.
Now starting to us favor us a little bit more.
The Ravens aren't on the field as long, our defense
maybe doesn't get worn down as much of the game.
The dynamic the Florida game changes a lot when you're
when you have a guy like b Rob in that game,
and there's times where hey, it's not blocked up, correct,
(06:08):
he just batter.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It wears on the defensive line as the game goes on.
Now you know, I love, but he's more finessed in
power when you when you hit that power. Because you
gotta realize we talking about the race. We talked about
a team who labeled himself our physicality. So at the
end of the day, we go into that physical game
not having our physical batting ram and I think it
kind of set us back when it came to the offense.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And that's why I say as a whole, you get
the offense collectively, because you know, I'm gonna talk a
little bit about you know, Cliff, you saw a couple
of those series.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Man, where they had our number.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I mean, right, we can do you know, and a
couple of times I believe if especially earlier in the game,
if Jayden let.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Ekler has it, he hits him. Yeah, I mean there
was one way.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
And then those guys are sitting right there wait for him.
So you know, they came into the game saying, you're
not going to be with some.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Of the store. We'll let the backs do it.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
This guys can have it, but you're not gonna beat us.
So with that being said, Cliffs still found the way.
I remember I had been sending for weeks that slip
screen goal coming all coy coming. Well, I never knew
that you can send two guys on the same side.
You and then you know Terry behind him. That's you know,
that creative. You know, ability to go out there and
(07:21):
called plays is second to none, man, And I think
he's been showing that weekend and weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Speaking of creative, the fleet flicker back to the screen
to the rudder, back to Eckler. I was like, man,
I've seen a lot of football, Really, do I see
something that I haven't seen before.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That was my first time seeing that.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Not only this, seeing that being done the way it's
been done. It's just like those guys are in unisonse blocking,
like they just everybody following the plan, doing their assignment.
That's what stands out the most when you look at
this team as a whole, you know, that's you know,
we're talking about you know, individuals and talking about this
one side, you know, with this dubble, the weak thing.
But I think if you look at what we've been
doing as a team, that's why we're getting the national
(08:02):
you know conversation. We in that national conversation now because
as a whole, collectively, those guys are out there. You know,
you can see the coaching come into play.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
That's why I got to say Kingsbury, because he's doing
a great job a week by week layering the playbook.
He's layering the playbook. He gives him one, two, three
more things every week to watch this playbook grow. So
it's crazy to watch watch now all right.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Fellas we're gonna move on to drive Time or drive times.
Drive It's time for drive Time, presented by Eastern Automotive Crew,
Any car, anyway, for everyone since nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Drive Time.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
This week we will be talking about the weekend of
the Alumni weekend.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Old people, old people, wee can which which we are
part of. Now.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I think we're crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I think we mid age because if d Green them
and Joe sixties, they out a senior city where we
are right there in that middle group right.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
There, because we can relate to the younger, younger.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I mean, you know, we can relate to We're not
old old, we can relate to him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
But what's funny about it, you know, especially this weekend
as one of the things that I've always got a
kick out of. It's just so you know, those guys
have so many great memories from just winning championships, yeah,
just the history itself. Man, it's always great to be
around them. But when you do get around them, you
get it's like they kind of cling to us, Like
you could say that, you know, it's one thing of
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us being able to relate to the guys that's still playing.
They relate to us and we just got out the game,
you know what I mean. So I've always got a
kick out of just being around especially guys like Gary
Clark or you know, D Green or you name it,
or some of those guys are thisman.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
He's always a good I love.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
He's gonna get a corner and he's gonna talk your ear.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, I love.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
But he's always got some good insight to share with
you about the team and about some of the things
that went on. Uh, my question about this alone, now
we can do you guys remember the first I guess
you could say alumni when you got here on this team,
who kind of kind of lend a hand, like he
basically reached out to you and kind of gave you
some some insight on the game or.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Just something about the history of That's crazy you asked
that question, because it's about the man of the hour.
Is D Green? Like when I walked into the locker room,
they were like D Green, this friend smooth Fred smooth,
this D Green? De Green? You watch him.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm not about you put that on.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
You're not gonna what is the siment? So what was
he doing? He didn't mention that De Green didn't want
to watch him. I won't say, you know, somebody kid
off at your house and my kids know this what
it was, and I can say this man, Darren was
very open, very honest to me, and he also put
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something inside me when it was because I was already
gonna be a community dude, but he let me know
how serious it will. He was like, your play it's
gonna make you remember through football, but what you do
in this community gonna make you remember forever. And that
stuck with me from the time I got here to then.
And he was just always I could always just ask
him questions. I remember Champ was watching me watch him
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on Dead Green one day and he was like, I'm sorry,
but you can't there Green And I was like, what
you mean. He was like, don't study him because he
is the only person that can do those things. And
I had an old locker room. You gotta realized I
had Bruce Schmilt, I had so many old dudes. We
would call the old folks Homer Ashburn. At day, I
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was the youngest person on the team. But man, just
anything I needed, he was always there. You know, I
was as you asked were asking that question.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I started thinking about some of the alumni that I
first met when I when I got here in O seven.
One guy who me, being a middle linebacker, I got
to talk to every week. It's Sam Huff, Sam Hall
of Fame, Hall of Fame linebacker, the late Sam Huff.
And when I found out he was doing, he was
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calling the games.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
He was the radio.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Analyst with the job that I do now him and
him and Sunny jer Jerkison. So for me being able
to talk to Sam Huff, I mean, this is it's
like I'm a football historical, especially when it comes to
the middle linebackers.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
So, man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Talking to him and we just had it like a
Kendrick spirit, like we were talking and just it was.
He would tell me stories about him going against Jim
Brown and and you.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Know, knocking.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
This was still on the couch with him and Sunny
all the time.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Man, he would he would tell me story talking about
how you hit Jim Brown and I can't use the work,
he said. One of one of the best gifts I
ever got, un solicited, Sam Huff gave me an autograph
black and white photo of him that I still.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Have to this day.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I don't have a lot of other people stuff in
my house because you know, Sam Huff is one of
the few people that I have in my house that's
not that's not me speak about you.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Well, yeah, you know, I mean none other than Gary.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You know Gary.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
It was funny because I remember coming here. You know,
when you get traded somewhere, it's always like okay, you know,
we know he got talent. But you know, people don't
open up to you out the gate before you hear it.
Before I even got acclimated with the team, Gary reached
out like, hey, what's up?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
But how you doing? Man? I watch a game, you
know what I mean? I like your game. Boom boom boom.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Now, after that scenason I had, next time I saw
him again, you know, and I woul see him periodically
throughout the year. He saw me, I was like, bro,
I didn't know your love and and he's like, bro,
you can play with us. You gotta you gotta or
about yourself that.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I just love that man. I love that sweat.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And you know, the first thing starts saying, yo, swag, man,
you got to you gotta sould about yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Man, just something your game.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
And I'm laughing about it as he talking to me,
because I'm thinking about discanny. He won't even here at
the time, but he all he's staying with me as
an old man, got an old man soul, you know
what I'm saying. But I would just always take in
take He didn't know that I appreciated those moments, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I want to share a little story because I'm anna
ask y'all next segment about the funnies, give me a
funny story. But I'm gonna share mines first. You know
how these seasons are in the season, you know, you don't,
I mean, you don't always have your season always goes playing.
And it was a year two thousand and seven. It
might have been your first year here, the same year
Sean you know all left us. My season was rocky.
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Bro I had got injured her early. I had a
growing strain. You know how that is when you get worded.
I just can't get back in my head. I'm going
out there. You know, long story short, you know, we
in these games and I'm just like Bro, I'm out
of it, and I mentally I'm out of it, frustrated,
you name it.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
All the all the bove Gary Klark.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Came to speak to the team. We all circled up
on the field. I'll never forget this. I'm I'm dead
front front row in the cinema on my knee and
he said, we're eighty nine now. I'm like, I'm like,
I'm in the classroom right here. He say, where the
hell that freaky first down there?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah? I remember that, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Like, bro, I swear if you the saw felt like
I just like sweat like a deep goat. Like he said, Bro,
when you do that, I do that, and I need
to see that that was a that was a that
was a calling me out in front of him. And
I'm sitting there saying to myself, I didn't take it
like no, I took it like I should have.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Sayt up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
And I remember going out to that next game and
that I made We made her run and I.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Was a part of that run.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Every week I showed up and I was making plays, touchdown,
having my yard because I put all that stuff behind me,
which that's what I needed to do. So that's like
something that I always take with me.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Man. Gary was always there.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
He was a guy that you know, letting his hand
the first day I got here and to this day,
when we see each other man in passing me, we
always have stories and we always share a little moment.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
So I got to get I got one more guy,
I guy ray Brown. Alright, listen, I love me something flavor.
You're playing when we.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Got played against Ray Ray.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Brown, played against Ray Nitsky.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
The team and on seven when you got heah.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He was gone.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Ray was always one of them guys smooth, you need anything,
you need to know, anything, you need me to help
you with anything, just always there. He loved the joke,
so he my guy, and I used to always call
him another professor because he looked like So. I love
me some Ray Brown, when I say genuine to the core.
One of the best people ever met him real quick.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Since we're telling stories, So I'm playing with the rams
Ray Brown with the forty nine ers, this old flat,
old big flat I was I was before crossing. So
We're playing, were playing the forty nine and I'm cussing
up a storm, cussing everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I don't know, forty nine ers. Ray gonna say, it's
like a time out.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
He's like, London, why you cussed so much? What you
say back to.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Right? Right? Bright, I can see you doing it. I
can see you doing it too.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
That I just I couldn't like control myself product my
ego would allow me to be like, yeah, you're right,
I can see you doing the walking.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's am right, Brian.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I would do is pre Christ was a long long,
long time ago.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Speaking of seven, you know I brought up O seven.
What do you guys remember about that wild card game
up in Seattle? Man, You know, we we got a
chance to go to the playoffs again. We always talk
about every time we got in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
You always seeattle Man Temple the two teams we've ever
seen the play We just had so much momentum. Yeah,
we had a lot of momentum. We're playing some some
were playing above our head on defense, like we're just
we're just.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We're playing with about two calls.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And when I say we are going in and were like,
we don't care if they know we and man, man,
this is what we're gonna do. This is how we're
gonna do it. And we let that game get away
from us. Man, we had that game.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I remember they were throwing that damn football to Uh.
We played a lot of cover to body was still
playing there right Ingham. He was still there, Thank you, Alexander.
He was running back. I remember that we were playing
a lot of cover too, and obviously our Sam single
it's his favorite bliss.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
They were throwing it. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
They were having a lot of perimeter type plays and
I wasn't able to get in on a lot of tacks.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
So I was pissed. I don't think I have about because.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
You would get right down, man. Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I was hot as fish great.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So I finally got a hold of shan Hime Alexander
one time.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
It was I tried to well, I did give me
a good old hit off helsel back. I thought I
had took him out the game. Yeah, I thought I
had single handedly won that game for us. I think.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Now we didn't win the game, but I remember offensively,
or rather, Todd Collins was willing to deal and we
got I talked about us coming there with momentum.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Todd was on fire. Chief.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I loved it, especially just being a receiver, knowing that
one of the things people finally realize is that you
as a receiver, Fred bringers up all the time. You know,
you as good as your quarterback, or you as good
as the play call.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
At whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
You at the mercy of their hands. You know, if
the guy gonna throw you the ball find you, you know,
if he give you the opportunity, then great. If you don't,
then you out there just running around and Todd would
find me. I mean, I actually scored that game, and
I remember, like we said, we talked about Sean leaving
us that year. It's a picture that still to this
day I signed. Every time I'm doing a you know,
autograph signing. You see me in that back of the
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end zone. I'm holding the deuce one up high and
it's just it's beautiful because you know, Seattle was really
it's a beautiful skyline and just the stadium itself.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You see the two to one, And.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
To me that when I see that picture, I get
choked up some times, like damn, because I remember when
my head was that, Yeah, you know, I was gone, right,
let me.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Ask you all this and I felt like this.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
So after Sean passes, Yeah, we go to his funeral
on that Monday, we played the Buffalo. We played No
he passed on a Monday or Tuesday. Monday, played Buffalo
that Sunday, to his funeral that Monday, yea. Then we
played it. We played chicagourday night. Yeah, we beat Chicago,
going to four game winning streak. Did you all feel like,
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so we go, we win, we win, Uh make the
playoffs and then we go to Seattle on a Saturday?
Like everything was did y'all feel like, man, you was
playing off of emotions?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
It was so it was hot?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, high.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Then just getting into that game was like, man, do
we if we play on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Do we finished? Do we close that game?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I just felt like it was just on such a
high emotional I.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Just think I think the perfect approach to me was
to get us out there early because we we was
on such a high and it wasn't a sugar high,
it's it maintain. Yeah, And I just think if we
would have got out there, we'd have been more established,
more single focus. We were focused, like worried about our
focus at the time. It was our football Like. That
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was one of the few times I've seen everybody. Yeah
we were lockball emotions. Yeah we was emotionally driven, but
it was good emotions. We ain't finnah cheat each other,
that's what we did.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That was the one time too that you can say
our team looked like a team. You know, it brought
us together because I guess every man had a gut
check of how how short, like what can you do?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Man?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I mean like or not even that, just this life
because I know myself personally, you know, you speed like
when we played this game, folks for the realize because
now I look back at it, because I'm watching all
the guys who are not able to kind of land
on their feet when this thing is over, and it
bothers me a little bit because I'm like, man, we're fortunate.
One of the things about us, you know, one of
the things you don't have to necessarily have this out
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standing job after football, especially if that's football being your life.
Go some football, Go go go give your time to
high school, your time to the little league if all
you know is football. But it's great to be able
to say you landed and have something that you can
just keep you busy, because that's what we need more
than anything. You keep your mind from just wondering wondering.
And that's what to me. You know, when you say
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we play ball, it's like you get that short time
off when you back. So I was speeding through life
like life ain't started lifing me into football.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I was over with.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, I'm sitting there like, what did I do when
these bills or this came up with somebody else calling
me the bill?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
What was I doing? Somebody?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
We were so focused on what we were Yeah, man,
somebody was running interference and ye didn't get them damn calls.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
We get those calls and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
So, yeah, that's what I appreciated more. And I think
I kind of, you know, buckled down a little bit
more about myself, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And that first coach gil was was the perfect coach
to have it. I don't know how many coaches could
uh could coach us through that, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I think he was the perfect guy. Coach Gils was
the perfect coach. That was.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I just I just remember, like man, just the emotions
that we were dealing with and going out there. And
I think you reminded me that we were talking about
this maybe last year.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I forgot that we had to lead in the fourth
quarter of that game.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
No, didn't watch the game like it's just like hours.
It was our.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Actually threw a pick down the sideline, right, I was
the guy who they was throwing to. I remember, and
the ball got lost in the lights, and I'm like,
this is what we talk about all the time, knowing
the guy, knowing the receiver, me and Todd on the
same page. He just threw a goal, but the guy
was thirty yards deep on me already. So I'm saying
to myself, just throw it at me. And so I
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was running not as fast as I would want you,
because I'm like, I can't run this guy down and
didn't leave him. It's gonna be one of them. If
you throw it deep, You're both not gonna get it.
So I'm gonna give you a chance to throw it
to me by running on and down at a different
pace where you can get depending on my back shoulder.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
And I remember he swung that thing and I was
looking up for it. I'm still looking, and I hear
them hate the crowd room.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, the corner back at the ball running towards me,
and I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying. So
that's what I remember the most too, you know about
that game, Just knowing that, I think that's when it slipped.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
That's when it kind of got away from us.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I want to I want to go back, ask y'all kind,
especially you and maybe even you smooth as well. For
me come in here and playing for the Burget didn't
go playing for the Redskins at that time, and Tanner,
you got traded here.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I was a free agent.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I knew the history that this organiization, half the legacy players,
and having been a three time Super Bowl champion and
all that playing for the legendary coach Joe Gibbs. I
felt a great sense of pride, like man, me as
a free agent, Like, I'm not gonna come here and
be a bust.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You ain't gonna be.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
It ain't what's your name?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
My name, ain't gonna be one of those long line
of free agent busts that that comes.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Like.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I felt a great deal responsibility and just with this
being alumni weekend, it's maybe just think like like I
took pride in like representing the guys played before me.
Like man, y'all, when y'all see they talking about the
sign of the me, I'm gonna be one of them. Dudes,
Tell how did you feel? Have you got trade?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I had a chip.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I didn't necessarily have a chip from being traded. I
thought that was the best thing in my life that
was the best day that you know, far as football
wise professionally. Yeah, Like I told you how I felt
about New York. You know, I actually grew up there,
like playing four years there, man, I became a man.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So when it was all said and done, when I left,
I knew I did my all, my best, and I
knew the fans appreciated.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
So that's what I was.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I was happy to say I'm leaving here as a success,
coming in as a first round pick, because they basically
telling me we just don't want to pay you to
next year.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
But my age, like, you.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Know, you exceeded that contract. Now this time is up.
You pay us now. Oh, we're gonna go get the money.
So when I left, I left knowing like I did
my job to get paid, but I had a chip
for the simple fact that when I got here, a
couple of media folks didn't receive me as the person
I was coming in there. Like I told you, a
lady I forgot her name, I'm gonna bring it up,
but it's no no offense to her. She was doing
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doing her job, but she didn't even know she stirred
something in my pot, you know what I mean. She
came in and said, so, how does it feel like
to be wanted? And I'm like what, I'm like, I
want to say something else that being me respectful.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I'm like, well, I don't think I wasn't want.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
They just paid me to come here, you know, as
a top receiver, so I'm definitely wanting. She's like, well,
you know what I mean, you know you was a
first round draft pick. I say, well, you're trying to
get me out my damn character. But I said, look here, man,
I'm happy. I say, you know, the grassat isn't always greener,
but I think for my case, this is a team
that wanted me. This is a team that feels like
they can use me the way I want to be used,
and I think this guy's the limit and took off
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that season.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
It was it was like, man, it.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Was like it was like a highlight every week for me,
you know what I mean? Like that that if you
turn that two thousand and five season on, it wasn't
a week that eighty nine wasn't making, you know, an impact.
So I look back at it like, see, that's all
she had to do. But she didn't even have to
do that.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Like she asked the question differently because I feel.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I'm not even gonna put all that on her. I
just feel like it was just perfect timing for me. Man,
Like I had did all I can do over in
New York. I just came off a playoff or run
two years in the world, we went to the playoffs.
Remind you, I was there for four years. I went
three out of four years to the playoff. So it
was it was a thing for me to go to
the playoffs. So coming here, I brought that energy and
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we went to the playoffs, you know what I'm saying.
So yeah, but I enjoyed it. I didn't know the
history like you as much. I knew the names. I
knew the Arn't Monks, I knew the Gary Clarks, I
knew something I knew than I knew. You know, Doug Williams,
I knew that, and I knew the Super Bowls. But
I didn't know like these guys. Like in the late
eighties early nineties.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
It was like world in.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Cleveland, man watching the Hog, watching John Riggins, Yeah, watching
Dexter Manley.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
See, I like y'all. You know, we brought y'all low here.
I was born. I heard my name called on dram Day,
it said you're headed to Washington. So when I got here,
just to get here and to be welcome by Doug
Williams and the guys that did so much, I was
just I was blown away. But it also was like,
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hey man, it's a standard. It's a standard here, and
I need to play to that standard. I need to
show them that they didn't waste this pick. Then I
actually left, and like you say, the grand sain't always
Greenham on the other side, and I had to call
Coach Gibbs to get traded back here. I really appreciate
not just the football, not just the history. I enjoyed
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the d m V as a whole, like everything about this.
So I enjoyed my cowboy rivalries. I enjoyed every inch
of it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
So that's a.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Great segue into if we had to do a Washington
football players Mount Rushmore rush, who would be so four guys,
each one of us get to put our Mount Rushmore
of Washington players.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Frederick, let's start with you.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
All right. Of course it starts with the great d
Green He is the a pity me. He could be
the logo if he wanted to. He has missed to
Washington second, you got to go Sammy Ba slinging Sammy Ba.
Now the third one, I was like, all right, do
I put dextra manly right there?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You want to show you the listen.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I got a photograph, a memory, I see everybody on there.
But then I was like, should I go dish to manly?
We are really known for these hogs? Do I do?
I need to put Rush grimm your list though, So
after Semiby, I'm gonna go dexter manly because I'm a
defensive player, even though I know I should be putting
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a hog right thereby should be putting a hog right there.
And then the last spot, I'm gonna give it to
somebody if I will playing time in this shunning Taylor,
that's tough too. I'm gonna go. So Joe Gibbs gonna
go number one? Yeah for me? Yeah see, I thought
it was all players.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Nobody said I could put up.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Everybody know the long time trainer this team. He's kept
four generations healthy. So we don't get here with that
Bubba titles.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
So I'm gonna put coach Gibbs first. Second, I'm gonna
go with Bobby Minchell. Forget I met the guy that
I broke his long time record when I got him
my first year, and it was crazy that he was
still around him and his wife was still around. It
was years later that I got a chance to meet
him and I was actually walking we had that We
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was at the Gaylord Hotel and he came and spoke
with us and she saw me out.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
She's like, you sent telling them all. She I'm like, yeah,
she's like, we watch you.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
She's like, you broke my husband record and I always
wanted to meet you because you're a nice dude. And
I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying made me
feel good. So I got to put him up there.
I went back and had to watch film on him,
and I heard the story about him being one of.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
The first first ain't try to do that list maybe
listened to.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
So I got Joe, I got Bobby Third. I say,
I told you I was gonna get defense Wise. I
just feel like, you know, it's nobody that's the Manley
was just like one of those guys. To this day,
I don't I can't wrap my head around right. He's
not a you know, Hall of Famer, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Same reason Joja Kobe not London, not they look over
the Washington football players.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
It's crazy and and I know, like you said, this
is our this is just our list. I gave him three,
so four, I'm gonna go with one our receivers. I'm
gonna say Art Monk, right.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
The quiet, Arthur Monk. I could have put Gary up there.
I could have put the list. So there's so many
guys we could have put up there.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So Joe Gibbs, yeah, architect of three.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, exactly, it was our players, players club, not the
coaching club. Coach Gibbs, three time Super Bowl winning head coach.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
M hm, he's he's on the mound. Rush Moore. Bobby Mitchell.
I'm going Bobby Mitchell again, just because of what he
did African American player to ever playing this franchise. Ye,
I'm going with I'm going Bobby Mitchell. This is where
it starts to get interested when you get I'm going degree.
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He spent twenty years in this franchise, So you got
to put him on there. Now, my fourth guy, That's
that's the tough one. I think since none of us
put a hog on there, you're gonna have to go
hard to put this.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
List.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I want to I want to go Sam Huff.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
However, Sam had a story career in New York, probably
more of his career with New York played in New
York before he got the Washington So Sonny Jackson, Sonny, Yes, Sonny's.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Depressions years old.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Let me look at this thing.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You got, christ Hembur, You got like so many dude,
Like I feel so much pressure.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
What was the conerback that came in and curse every
time he spoke?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
What not him? You know the Conerba old guy he
played back in the day. Oh wait, dude, he just
passed away.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
All my fourth guy.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
That's just show you how this history is.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
When you think about the Hogs, you think about John Rigas,
you think of you.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Think about the Jersey getting tour he runs through people.
Get this is always gonna be in your mind.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That's a tough list, man.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Know, I'm sorry. You can't really put pick four like
it's hard to pick four people.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
I mean you can only just say, you know, like
you say our list. You know what I mean I mean.
But you can't get it right because it's going to
be a guy. Somebody's gonna be left to somebody. He
left Joe Gibbs man and he talked about I know
that now.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
No story of how coach came back to coaching, No,
we don't. All right, check this out, tell everybody coach
Spurrier had retired. Remember abruptly, I am driving, gives me
a call and say we want you to do an
interview that you do you know your coach? I remember
I wanted to hear it and I was like okay.
I was like, I'm near Atlanta. They were like, stopping
to see an N building? So I stopped at to
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see an N building. They put the mic in my
face and they say how you feel about Spurrir quitting? Like,
we don't care, We're gonna look forward to the new coach.
And they were like, well, who's gonna be your new coach?
I said, the only person that can say what is
Joe Gibbs And coach happened to be watching ESPN with
his wife, but he had he had already told I
think somebody his family a year earlier that I really
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thinking about going back to coaching. So he was like
what Schmooth did was making to where time he said
my name. Ms. Gibbs asked him, do you want to
go back to coach. So he was like, thank you
for not having me having that talk to her. So
I called the coach back, so he always we gotta
get used, We gotta get your welcome. My brother Jason Rushmore,
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I just thought it was all players. Man.
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Speaker 1 (37:27):
You're listening to the Players Club presented by Pepsi this weekend. Man, Yeah,
big game obviously gets Carolina Paths. I'm not weekend and
it's not just alumni weekend Number twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Never be worn again, Never be worn again?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Why it took so long? That's another But what does
that mean? I'm gonna start with you, smooth, because you
play with them.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, Cheryl twenty years.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
One of the fastest man, one of the greatest players
to not just play in this franchise any in the
national basketball an iconic player, jersey going up and to
never be one again. How does that make you feel?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
It's unbelievable that I'm a little bitty part of his
long story, right. It's like I remember my first day
when they drafted me. The first thing I did was
look at the depth chart. I think all of us
do that, and I was like, damn Green, the understand
that's Champ Bailey. Am I playing tighty end if I'm watching, like,
what am I playing? So I remember when I first
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walked in and me and Daryl sat down and talk.
I told you about how they kind of introduced this
and and Daryl was talking and he was like, I
like your game. And he was like, you know, we're
gonna have we have this little contest. We used to
have all the time. It was the fastest Washington player contest.
See you want to always talk about speed. So we
get to the race, right, we ain't we it's dominicator,
It's just amnicaire. We get to the race. The last
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three races after everybody eliminated me, Champ Bailey.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
And Darryl Green.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Darren hadn't ran. He hadn't ran yet cause they said
that you could just run the last one, right. I
was like, Champ, you.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Had you won any races or did you had already won?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
My way to that everybody I know, everybody on the team.
I raced the channel up. But anyway, so now it's
the last three race and it's me champing degree and
I was like, Champ, we can't let we can't lift
forty year o. D Green beat us. She was like, hey,
he ain't no regular Fordio. So we strike out and
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of course I'm looking at the back of these two
gods were running. I'm like this dude, like when I
say fast, it was unbelievable how fast he was and
it was effortless. He wasn't he wasn't struggling. So I
take a knee after the race, and I'm like, did
I just lose to a forty year old man? But did?
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Like Chill said, that ain't no average for that, So
he was a wonder. He was a blur. And then
get what I do did after I go back and
watch him race hrs Walker? Yeah, and I said, you
know what, I earned that butt kicking. I earned that boocket.
So just amazing person, but an athlete. I have never
seen an athlete with that type of longevity Like long
(40:12):
Gip nineteen consecutive years with an interception? Fleish, Did you
have any year you didn't have an interception? Yeah? I
know you did.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I know you did, but I have more sticks.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
You agree, say, got hold on?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You mentioned did I must have participated that day? You
wouldn't have been in that topic.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
I wouldn't been. He had already lost one total told
he was already he said, you know here.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Time, Oh my god, I was going to tell Fred,
being a guy, that he always researching something. That's one
one day that he dropped the ball with research because
I wouldn't gotten that race not knowing that they are
Greening the fast man in the world.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I knew he was, but you got to realize and
I hated with it because he over the cock right,
all right? He used to be a four to two
four one. Yeah, I didn't know he was still a
four to at this time. Like that's what I underestimated him.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
You didn't even have to tell me the story. I
knew you came in last year.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
It soon as I heard, I know, I'm like, shouldn't win? Then? Yeah?
Were your calling me?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
You wasn't even close third.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
I was third, man, I could say in race with
damn Green, I came in third, and it was only
three before before.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
You have me and this man.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Let me show my little you know sentiments. You know
about number twenty eight. I think you know, I didn't
have no big story about saying I played with him, Yeah,
played against.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Him all I remember growing up.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
You know, you talked about how you've been a big
historian about the you know, the game, just knowing linebackers,
knowing about the game.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I was just a player watcher, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Like I would watch players on teams that had an impact,
and it just you know, caught my eye. Dion, Daryl
Green and Rod Woods with three corners.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
That I wanted to be.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
I grew up starting my early childhood, I played corner
and receiver.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
So those three guys always stood out, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
As I get older, you get the Charles Woodson's everybody
else they kind of changed, the Champ Bailey's, you name it.
But the thing, man, when I got into the league
in two thousand and one, Dark Green was still over here,
and I'm like, hell playing I was in pamples when
he was playing, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
So that's what stood out to me the most.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
And I think not only that, when I go back
and kind of like pay attention to what he did,
how long he did it, you know, when he was
when that last year that I remember watching him, he
still was out there making plays.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah. Man, that's you know, that's enough.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
You know, credit right there for itself, because you understand
how this game goes, man, And when you get up
in those years, it's hard to be that guy you
once was. And I remember that's one of the things
that I kind of kind of you know, had a
bop in my my, you know, and my walk about
when I was leaving out cause I'm like, man, I'm
still out here, you know, embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
People kids at my age.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
So if I can still go out there and make
you Mama mad at me, then I'm doing my job.
So I know Darrek green is one of those guys,
and that's it's crazy. When I got here and over
the time he connected with me, and to this day
I see some places he always says, telling I'm passing
you the torch. You guy, You're the guy in the
community now that.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
People look at like how they looked at me.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I'm will tell you a really quick Daryl Greene story
about how he is as a man.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
So this was twenty thirteen, I believe twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Season, and this is a season where we're struggling a
little bit, and they were asked it was like the
Meetia was talking about his RG three R leader of
something and such and such, and I've made the comment
like he's not the leader, Like I'm a leader.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, And so Daryl Green, he you know, said well, London,
you know he can't.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Be the leader.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
He didn't say this to me, he said it on
the on the radio, and I kind of took it
the wrong way, and so you know, Darryl word got
big got back to Daryl that I wasn't happy with
what he said and came to tell you how he is.
He called me, He's like London, you know what. Man,
and we had we had a relationship before then. We
talked know each other a little bit like, man, we're
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about to sit and talk, were about to have a conversation,
really get to know each other. Yeah, and we cleared
the air of some like miscommunication like I was disappointed
to like.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Here a look just like damn, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I was trying to take the pressure.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
The young guy.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
But he's like, you known you too old to be
the guy, you know. So it was just a little
bit like all right. So but me and him, we said,
we talked for probably about an hour and a half
just I mean, yeah, man, man and I left that
comments like we were in a better place and not
not like we were beef and beefing. But it was
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just like two because I had a tremendous somebody.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Of respect for him, Like damn, damn. You know.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah, I'm a young guy man, but just a tremendous
Hall of Fame player, even better person, even better person,
even better person. As I mentioned, Jersey should have been retired.
But that's not that's neither here nor there. I can't
really wait to celebrate him.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Crazy that I shared a huddle with him. I just
remember him coming out the huddle and he would be
teaching me, we'll come.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Don't put that on him.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
He'll be like, hey, watch out, they try to hit
him with a double post. It's third and five. They
coming outside, They ain't gonna come inside. Like just stuff.
That really made it easy for my transition.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
And you did okay, he did help because you got
paid by Minnesota and then once you got out on
your own, once you're here, once you left there, that's
the difference.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
But when I got here, he made it easy for
me so fast.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
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We got to get back on the winning track, winning ways.
A lot of stuff going into the game. On paper,
I think we're favorite. I think we're favored by seven
eight points.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Will will pay a whole lot of attention to that.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Fair love Vegas handled it. Guys.
Speaker 8 (46:43):
This Panthers team, they can run the ball. Yep, they say,
Dojers team up Hubbard. Yeah, third of the National Football
League running the football. We got with down some defensive linemen.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
And they offensive line strength and they have a very
good offensive line. They got they get out there wide receiver,
they got a tight end Johnson, they got tight end
and Sanders that can get up the scene. And let's
be honest, Andy Dalton has kind of revived this team season.
So he is a veteran quarterback like Joe Flacco, he
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ain't gonna beat himself. You're gonna have to force him
into mistakes. And one thing that I think with this
paramount that we do and if we don't do it,
we could be setting ourselves up full trap. We have
to start fast. If we allow these guys to stay
in this game, they gonna the more momentum they bill,
the more they think they're gonna have a chance. They
got some defensive player, jac Horn. They got some guys
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over there that can get after you on that defensive
side of the ball. We gotta start early and often
with this team.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Yeah, I think it's only a trap, man, when you
allowed it allow it to be a trap. You know.
One of the things that I'm hoping that's going for us,
that I've been seeing so far in these first six
weeks of the season, is this team.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Is well coached. Well coach.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
You have a player at almost every position that played
at a high level in this league, and they under
stand just like we understand as players to this day
and guys who no longer plan that that's the only
way you allow a team that don't supposed to beat
you beat you. It's by listening to the noise, listening
to the noise about what they can do, and they
come in here hurt.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
You know, we just lost.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
I think you're probably one of the better things that
happened to us earlier than these first six weeks, because
we was on the high sometime you need to be
brought backack, do you need that gut check to kind
of know who you are and know how much more
better you need to be. We understood that, you know,
that might have been one of the better teams that
we faced this year. You know what I mean them
in Tampa if we had to ask me. But I
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do believe that, Yes, Caroline is gonna come in here
feeling like they feel.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
I believe they wanted five.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
But at the same time they want to be that
throwing in our backside and they say we're going to
be the team that kind of right or take that audience. Coaches,
this staff is not going to allow this team to,
you know, sit here and be less than who they are.
I definitely believe these guys are going to go out
there with a chip every day this weekend, go out
there and play the kind of again.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
And that's the thing that I look at mostly when
you think about first to first, first and foremost d
Q dan Quinn, I don't feel like he would ever
have his team playing up and down like against the
competition that's supposed to be lesser than or up when
the opponent's supposed to be better, like if you look
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at this team, they talk about competing all the time,
competing at a high level just to accountability.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
I know I watched a little bit of practice earlier today.
I know that just watching practice, those guys.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
That have out there having a great practice.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Ready to play.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
So I'm not worried about them not being ready to
win a game mentally gain But to your point, Fred,
don't let don't find yourself in a.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Dog fire the team.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, dude, you got it. I will say this.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Defensively, there was enough things we did wrong against the
Baltimore Ravens to where like we got to come in
here and making sure we're on top of our game,
have to run a lot better.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Line.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, with those lost in the defensive line, Carolina pass
is one thing they can do.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
They can they know how to run.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
They're probably be even more committed to running the ball
this week, and they got some guys who can make
some plays in the passing game. We got to be
We had a couple of miscommunications on the back end,
didn't play some things as as well as we would
have liked to against Baltimore. So there's enough things that
we need to correct going into this game and it
wasn't a clean and perfect offensive game, so we need.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
To be better.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
I think we'll be better to play better to play
this game against the Carolina Pathers.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
And I think it was a good Reset week. Reset week.
We know what just happened. Now let's get back on two.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
So we're looking forward to obviously to this weekend's game
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Speaker 2 (52:41):
It's great having you on the show. Brothers that play
college football?
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Where you had in the order? Are you the baby brother?
You in the middle, because it always tells me about
a guy with here and the pifore right, All right, understand,
so you have to take a lot. I understand that.
Speaker 9 (52:59):
Man. Once I got big enough, I throwing them right
well them.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
Again, beat up play defensive line. They played different positions.
Speaker 9 (53:07):
I'm the only big one out of my family. I
got our running back, a receiver, outside backer, and my
youngest brother quarterback.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
I grew them all for last left over. Yeah, So
how did it feel, especially when you got here knowing
that you had an X teammate here in Kwan Morton?
You know, did they make it easier? Did you hit
Quan at night or did he hit you up? How
did they go?
Speaker 6 (53:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (53:30):
Me and Kwan hit by five minutes after I got
the call. Yeah, like, man, it's crazy. You know Florida boys,
when you go to college together, all the wherever state
you from, you with them. So me and Kwan was close,
our families know each other. Uh so, it's just crazy.
And then I look ready to.
Speaker 3 (53:50):
I did forget about that. Quan used to be our barber.
But you ain't get no haircuts though.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Come on, so Illinois.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
As you was talking about Illinois, Lovely Smith recruits you
out of high school. I had Lovely Smith as my
defensive coordinator back in Saint Louis.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
My last two thousand and one.
Speaker 9 (54:13):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
What was it like?
Speaker 1 (54:15):
I know what he was like as a decordinator. Man,
Love's outstanding. The Yeah, everybody, they had some boys on
that defense in Illinois they had some dudes.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Dudes.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, what was it like playing for love in Illinois?
Speaker 9 (54:26):
I love Lovey, like you said, football wise, you know
everything like from A to b Uh. It's just didn't
play in our favor with our players. But as a coach,
like on and off the field, me and him still
text to this day. I still tech that's and I
ain't playing for Lovey in what five years? Yeah, I
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should just show you who he is as a person.
But on the field, everybody know what he do on
the field.
Speaker 4 (54:53):
Yeah, speaking of guy like Lovely he needs he actually
recruited you there to Illinois. One of the things that
I took pride in when I came into the league.
I was coached by Butch Davis and he was a
former you know NFL coach play you know, coach for
the Cowboys. What were some of the things that you
learned from Lovey that help you with your game today?
Because I'm you know, you look like a guy that
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especially coming in the way you got in here and
like as soon as you hit the field was ready,
you know what I'm saying. So what are some of
the things he taught you early? And you know, your
career in college that got you ready.
Speaker 9 (55:25):
Just small things like teaching us how to watch film.
Speaker 7 (55:28):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (55:28):
I feel like that was the biggest thing coming in
as a freshman. You know in high school. You just yeah,
you don't know everybody. We didn't watch him in high school,
so you probably know what that means. Just learning how
to watch him, like how to break it down by
personnel each player. Like, I feel like that was my
biggest thing because I'm a big student of the game.
So even like pre snot recognition, like I learned that
(55:50):
from Lovey. Uh, just small things like uh Like he
always helped me be starting the run game and in
the past game he helped me. I got a past
rush specialist Illinois, and I feel like ever since then
I took off.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
Yeah, it's all about mental. Speaking of mental, when you
got here, it was very simpler to when I got drafted. Here.
My dB room was full of grace. I had Dale Green,
I had Den Sandor Chimp Bailey. You walked in the
defensive tackle room, you got John are at d run pain.
Took me some stuff that you just soaked up from
those guys.
Speaker 9 (56:20):
Yeah, for sure them my big brothers. Uh Man, I
said right next to John, so every meeting, like five,
I mess up on something like I don't even look
the coach. I'll just look right next to got to
be like help me. He was like, I'll just look
at me here and be like, all right, do this
this and this and this and this and then pain
(56:42):
man pain quiet. But whenever he says something, it's like
it'll hit you. Whenever he says something to me and
it's breaking out film like it'd be quiet, but he said,
like everybody go listen. So, uh, just those two guys
just coming in and embracing me, uh, not trying to
be like the bully type O G and big brothers. Yeah, yeah,
(57:02):
I really appreciate those guys for that, and especially John,
like I said, that's my locker maate too, right next
to each other, right next to each other.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
So he just always over your shoulder, right every time
you look around.
Speaker 9 (57:13):
That's my big brother.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
So you know you mentioned John unfortunate injury, he's out
for the season, opportunity for you to step up play
a lot more. Has he talked to you about kind
of you know, what it's going to be like for
you to take that load? Yeah, take this load on?
And are you looking forward to playing a bigger role
on this defense.
Speaker 9 (57:35):
Yeah for sure. I mean if you're a football player,
definitely in the National Football League, it should be every
every player's dreamed to step until that starting role and
to come over and dominate the game. Ever since I've
been playing, I ain't want to just be on the team.
I wanted to be the best player on the team,
best player in the league. So that's that's my goals
and my hosts and the aspirations to come over and
(57:58):
honestly take over the league. I just don't want to
be another player, like I want to be one of
the great. So, uh, me and John talk Monday before
anything happened, you know, like I said, that's my big brother.
So we had a talk like man like it hurt
my heart honestly because that's my big brother. Yeah, I don't,
won't nothing that happened to nobody in our room. He
(58:18):
told me, and then he just smiled. It's kind of crazy,
he smiled. He was like, Bro, you got this.
Speaker 3 (58:22):
Bro.
Speaker 9 (58:23):
He's like like, I know, I know who you are.
It's like just trust me. It's like I believe you
and trusting you. It's like, just take over. And I
was like I got your back, bro.
Speaker 3 (58:32):
And that's what That's what they say the new coaching staff.
It's a brotherhood. And I think you could tell you
any time I talked to you out in the individually.
I see that, I hear that. Now you a Floord
the boy I need to know off the field. Give
me some hobbies. You like to fish, you like to like?
What do you do? What do Newton like to do? Anything?
I ain't playing football. I'm just relaxing.
Speaker 9 (58:52):
They're relaxing. Yeah, I ratherly just be zuling. I want
to start fishing. But man, that had so Yeah, I've
been saying I want to start fishing. I like going
on jet skis. I a don't really play too much games. Yeah,
like going on walks. I'm a big nature person.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
I'm a big nature person too. So you got to
go to the Channondoor, go to the Shannon door, go
to the mountains. Tell them Fred smooth sentence. Sometimes it's
just really relaxed. To get you a good old hi kid.
Then you can go to the Shannondoor, go in the mountains,
(59:32):
go in the cage, do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 4 (59:34):
Speaking of just what are some of the things, man,
you know you're a young guy and coming into one
of to me, one of the best assembled staffs. You know,
we all three of us play this game, and we
know what a great staff is just from what we see.
What are some of the things that you can kind
of you know, I guess you could say put your
hand on that this staff has already taught you, or
(59:57):
just give me a story or two about some of
the things that get you guys ready, because man, the
way you guys are playing, you can honestly see the brotherhood.
You can see you guys out there playing.
Speaker 9 (01:00:06):
For Yeah, for sure, before we did any breakdown, before
we did any play, any huddle, like before the season
even started, Like you could feel the energy right when
you walk in the building, like all the coaches being
interactive in the team meetings, Coach d Q coming in
there bringing that energy. Uh, they just make it fun
like you know normally means you just man, they bringing
(01:00:32):
like they put funny clips in there, like they make
it entertaining to be here. And uh, everybody that's seen
the pregame breakdown by Oos Yeah Boo speaking us hype,
then uh all the Vets be talking pain, don talk
John Allen Oo's don't talked be wax like those guys
(01:00:53):
talking whenever. Like I said, whenever they talk like you
go listen, just go hit you and then ooz come
and break that thing down.
Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Yeah you can't. I want to come back.
Speaker 9 (01:01:04):
Yeah everybody that started from the coaches like they bring
their energy and make all us comfortable enough to be vibe. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Man, Well, we appreciate you joining us on the Players Club,
Johnny All. We have all our guests signing this football
for us if you wouldn't mind, love to see you
put your autograph on it. Looking forward to see you
play not only against the Carolina Paths this Sunday, but
the rest of the season.
Speaker 9 (01:01:29):
Mann, I appreciate you all even having me out here.
Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
We make our prisons known man, Mississippi.
Speaker 9 (01:01:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
That'll do it for the Players Club, another edition, see
you next week.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
At the same time, want.
Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
More Great Commanders Podcast, We have a full slate for
you every day of the week, Mondays myself at Brown
Weinstein and breaking down the game on Booth Review and
you won't want to miss fredz Food and Michael Jenkins
Tuesdays on the Get Loud podcast and Wednesdays our guys
Logan Paulsa, Satana Moss, and Fred Smooth a talk of
all things Commander's Football. Check them out on the Commander's
(01:02:12):
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Sean and I have plenty more in store for you.
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