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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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eight to the nine. It was my usual suspect bluefoot.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
This guy.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
We got our guy.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We always love to have second week in the row,
all fellers. Wein't got that much time. A short week,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
We go to Arizona. You know how them trips is
in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Gotta be focused. But it's gotta be focused.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
On the Arizona. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna dive
right into this thing.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
With drive Time.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
It's time for drive Time, presented by Easton Automotive Crew,
Any car anyway for everyone. Since nineteen eighty eight, our
young rookie, I'm gonna say Phenom because that's what he is,
quarter up against another young rookie, Phenom, Rovin Harrison Junior. Yeah,
true play against his daddy. What was it like, man?
(01:11):
You know, we was all rookies. You know what was
it like facing one of your counterparts, man, one of
the guys that came in your draft class, and you
know who is that one guy or who was those
guys you ever you had to face against that.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
First game of the season.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Were playing to then San Diego super Charges, right and
the LT. So that's me and ly Danny, you know,
the same Playboy American group. And actually they playing on
the same field that the Padres play off. So that
was the first time really playing on the baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It was horrible. But I remember when the game first
started and you know.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Your rookie year, you still kind of starscrug. So I'm
watching Doug Fluted warm up.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And I'm like, damn, am I finna get burnt by
Doug Fly like Maxis myself did.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Then I look over there LT, so you know, we're
giving each other head and now we dapping from each
other up.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So also we kind of chatted each other.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I'm like, I better have a turn on before you
get a touchdown, right, I bet you don't. We go
right into the game and it's like four plays into
the game and they try to beat me on a
deep post with Curtis Comeway and I intercept the ball.
I get my first interception. So I get my first interception.
I run right to the sideline and I do this.
He knows what I'm talking about. So I never lied,
(02:24):
though I was more because I never sit down that game.
Like when Office was on the field, I stood up.
I watched the game and I could have sworn it
was like three junior Sayurs out there.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
He made so and I was stop scrooked by junior sayo.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
He made so mold Moddey because they would let they
would build a defense around letting him do whatever he
wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And we lost that first game.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
But I end up with NFC Defensive Player of the
Week because I got an interception, seven tackles, and I got.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
A forced form. We started as a rookie. I started
as a rookie, Ferry, I'm a first day starter.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Now I know how you feel. I'm saying I was
a bit tip. I had some DB's on talking about that.
It was like d Green. Then I was like, I
remember the first time I walked in that room.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I see I had already been talking to Prime in college,
so I had a relationship with him right. And people
don't understand for my first couple of weeks. I wore
twenty three, never to play in it, but I wore it.
And I walked in the mean room and Prime was
sitting in his recliner.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
He got a recliner. Uh D Green was sitting right
there and chimp.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Then I was like, I walked back out of there, boy,
And I walked back to Marshanahemo there with my coach
drafting team. I was like, why did you draft me?
He's like, boy, go in there the mean room. Everything's
gonna be all right because now I'm sitting here with
my idol. I'm sitting with the bitch Washington cornerbacker all time,
and I'm sitting with a young future Hall of Famer
Felum and cham Bailey.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So it was it was sobering. Yeah, probably it was sobering.
I was like, do every dB room look like this? Yes,
that's suring this.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
But I earned it through prat and by the time
they first game came, I thought I was reading and
I started out pretty fast as a rookie. So this
is the game that I understood them four quarters. Let
me understood, Yeah, you can't play on this level. You
do belong with the rest of these guys, that's good.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
What about you? I think for me?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
You know, in my drift class of rookie, a big
name wasn't necessarily a receiver. But y'all remember named Tony Gonzalez.
Of course, yeah, of course you remember to come on, man,
come on, man, knock it all. But anyway, TG and
I and another guy, uh that was in the class.
Two offensive guys in that class was a guy named
(04:35):
Ray Caruth and the other one was Tony Gonzales. But
Tony Gonzalez and I got drafted to the AMC West
at the time. I was at Seattle, he was at
Kansas City, and we had developed a rapport and her
friendship and stuff. But I remember the first time playing
Kansas City and they had.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well shield that offensive line had they had that mob.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
They had Eric Thomas Dale, Carter, James Smithy, Neil Smith,
the car that the team was loaded, right, yeah, uh,
little McMillan was a nickel back. They were loaded and
markha Marty was the coach of that team, and Tony
was on that team. And so that was for me.
But my rookie year, man like that was the one
(05:18):
rookie receiver or something. I can think going against But
my rookie year, uh reopened up with the Jets and
I had loud mouth.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Johnson, you know, who was the first pick the year before.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I had to hear his mouth the whole time, man
talk about you can't check me, you know, and he
was a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Keishan had a pretty good game.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I think he had like six catches that game. But
uh yeah, so you know, it's just signing the rookie
and you get to see somebody in your draft class. Though,
TG was how many picks did you end up with
your rookie year.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
M I don't know. I think I might have one.
This is it, this is yeah. I had five, your
second have your second year a little bit five?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, my rookie year one, like none of you guys,
I still have more than you know.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Unfortunately, my rookie year, I was sitting. I would sitting
on the sideline eating something.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I see with all cap he was injured.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I was injured.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I heard before I even played the preseason game. So
I tore my knee up or whatever. I really didn't
tear it up that bad. I had the moniscus lateral meniscus.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
There, but put us in the mind of somebody drafted
highlight that and now it would go from playing to
all I can do is watch.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It was devastating. I think you got to think about it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I was just a guy that was removed from years
prior to that in college, broke my job before the
season and told them to put a play in and
let me go play, you know, one game. So to
come to finally, you know, I walked in the college
in the back, you know, taking the back door, like
I had to go in as a walker, you know
what I mean. To come out of that situation and
be a first round draft pick to the Big Apple, Yeah,
(06:47):
and not be able to.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Play like these fans are waiting on. It was devastating.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
In New York, media was crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Media was killing me mentally, it was It was hard
for me.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But you know, I can tell you one thing, man,
it built. It built more character in me.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It made me strong, and it made me understand sit
back and have to see things from a different perspective.
I think one of the things I took out of
that not having that time to play. When I finally
did come in and play, if was not even a
shell of myself.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So it was like a waste of time.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Was like, I literally came in with the last Force
Force regular season games and they put me out there
and they want to see something special, and I'm like, boy,
take me back home.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I'm not for this.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But you know, in a nutshell, when I finally got
a chance to the next year, if that's like my
rookie season the second year, I remember playing against Ladanian.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Truth, I ran a pump back.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I went up there and playing them in sant Go,
ran a pump back for a touchdown. Nate Clemens was
in my division, he played. I was at the bad name.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
So it was always fun.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Shout out to all those corners.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Speaking of speaking of those guys and talking about Jayden
going up against you know, Marvin Harrison were playing at Arizona.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
What are some of y'all marrieds playing?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Can I talk about that? Can I talk about that?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Thinking about that, because there's another rookie that we drafted
here and Washington who's very familiar with Marvin Harrison played
against when he was at Michigan, Mike Cinastre.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
So remember, you.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Know, so that that was a little that's a little
rub there because he was the guy in the Ohio
State Michigan game talking about Marvin Harrison and all that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So it's gonna be he had the business.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
He had no business that game or something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You got hurt the Georgia game in the playoff game.
But but he was.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
He was the one rally in the Michigan troops getting
after So it's gonna be interesting because Marvin.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
He introduced itself to the league last week. Yes, then
what he did, he introduced itself to the league.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And you know them, them youngster's gonna have these games
where they pop out and show that they belong.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think Mike Sanders still to be okay, you better be.
We need him, We need him.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Tell me somebody to Cartoners.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You'll remember, Oh, I remember David Boston shout out to dB.
He gets human.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Being I have ever seen to call himself a while.
I'll never forget him. And LeVar was talking to each
other before the game and they were standing right beside
each other. So I peeked over there and they was
the same side. I was like, I'm about.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
To throw it my what do the fans want me
to do with this? Moments of a man? Then as
I get closer to him, I like, because I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I don't let a game go back without talking to
lip pregame trash. So I started to walk up to him.
Now you know how to change him out with the
cut off shirts. As I get close to hi, I'm like, this,
you got a person growing out of his back like
he's huge.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And he turns around.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And he has this this I Pierson and he got
these red contexts on. So I like, this guy's an idiot.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
With him, I'm not saying nothing to him to his
game starts. So we get in the game right.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
The first play is a run play, and I'm really like,
I'm on the same side with their green Darrely is
in the nickel and he just grabs Daryl and just
literally just body slaves.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And I was like, you can't do that to the
old man. He said, I do it to a young
man like man, Dude, he's that bull yard. This dude
was out here like it was crazy man them my early.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Cart and I got a chance to watch the great
Nearus Williams.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, yeah, so that one day that was very good.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I'm on study the guys on the other side, and
that day a nearlyus picked the ball off and ran
into the house. So I studied him too, but I
had nightmarees to get David Boston, just a dark man, two.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Red eyes like this dude is not for the fan.
Give me a shout out to my boy, David Boston.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Homo.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Ohiose state great my man himself. But thinking about the
Colonels a lot of people. They had three big receivers.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
They had Frank and I'm trying to think of the
old the other guys was like, but all the receivers
were big, and Jake the snaky.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Won the job.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
So Jake Plumber won the quarterback job. I remember, and
I remember about the Coldinals.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Man.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Every single time you play in Arizona's about one hundred
degrees out there.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Man, oh you.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Know you know you it was like man, you was
like man, so hot out to everybody.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It's like wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
But a memory that came into mind for me as
I earned a lot of respect for Clinton porters when
we went out there, and I forget what year it was,
but Clinton, man, he put the team on his back.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I mean Agent Wilson and boys was hitting Clinton.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
He was another one classmate and they were hitting, they
was hitting Clinton and Clinton was carrying toe. He put
the team on his back and that's the infamous game
with shout out to my boy London Hert and Fletcher
thinking he was hurdling and surfing on people's back out there.
There was I was in London. I was the lesser
London flet game. It was a hurdle surf. I don't
(12:09):
know what it was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So have to die? But yeah, but I was the game.
It was hot. We went in there, a tough physical
football game.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Always a tough physical team and uh not not good
at times, but good physical.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
They had new Arizona now.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Though, yeah, they totally different Arizona. I had had a
couple of memories. I think the one memory that stayed
out the most of me and a Z my first
year here. We went out there and I remember, you know,
just coming off of a game before I had a
good game and going to that game, a ball got
I guess bat it down and it hit me at
(12:47):
the end and my finger was like this.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm walking back to the huddle and I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Like oh, and I felt it and I did snapped
it back and play's happen the next player, I catch
a bomb for about like thirty yards down the scene
and god, think what Taylor Jacobs, he looked.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
At me like, bro TJ. You just snapped your finger
back and that man, that's what you're doing. Man, we
got stepping in and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So I was just I was so I was so
busy on just trying to be accountable for, you know,
my actions, and just make sure I help myself account
and doing my job so I won't even.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
By the way, I did get a chance to watch
Pat Tillman rest in peace. I watched him play for
the Cardinals, and that was experience in his.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Often ask you, knowing we ain't gonna shut him out,
I'm gonna ask you about it.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
What was it like playing against him and Kumbo.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Basket of All.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I'm gonna tell you serious, because me and Aine Winfield
had to really go to battle with these dudes one time.
And it was inside on turf and I remember and
kwam bold and running like a five yard shlint and
I tackled it.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I tried to tackle it, and I slid out.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
The round down his big old leg and then the
one thing I can say about Fish Fitzgerald the ball,
he ain't letting the ball come to you. If you
think you're just gonna run beside him and picked the
ball off, No, he's going to He's going to go
get it at the.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
The most highest point. And the funny thing about it is.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
He used to be a ball boy for the Minnesota Vikings,
so his dad is a beat reporter for the Vikings.
So I got time trying to really know his history
and his upbringing. So then I wasn't shocked that he
was NFL Man of the Year because he just that
type of dude. But I had to ask myself if
I had to describe what's the best part of his game.
(14:28):
I got to say, high point balls like he ain't
gonna give you a chance to pick it out, and
contested balls is.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
What he do.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
He wasn't really a blazer, but contested balls. He coming
down with that fifty ball.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Does Marvin Harrison, you know, give you that? As he
passed for Cheril, he be the next for Cheril franchise.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
He cared because he has a different gear. He got
a different gear. They got the same body, Bill, but
Marvein a little bigger than him. A little about taller
and that says it all anyway.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
But but I think Marvin has another gear that he
can kick in.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
This don't thing can separate him.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Now he's gonna have to prove to me that he
can make contests contested catches the way that fitst could.
And the one thing I say about Fitzgerald when anytime
Arizona needed to play, he was the guy. Like the
Super Bowl, he almost broke the Super Bowl over there
and gave the Cardinals their first super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I mean, you know you look at him and speaking
to him his his ball boy days, you know in Minnesota,
one of the guys that he kind of you know,
learned a lot from or who took a liking to him.
What's Chris car and so to see his ball handling
skills and know what christ life, it was almost like them.
So did Chris Carter really show you? Because it's like
you do the same thing, you just have different you
know or whatever. So, yeah, mom, he was special, you
(15:44):
know as a receiver looking at other receivers, you know
what I mean, I'm gonna call the spade to spade man.
He was special. I mean, and he was in the
Big East. So I got a chance to see him
right after I left. You know what I mean, college
play against our guys in the Big East, and he
was just he was one of those guys he wanted
to in the car.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I believe one year he just was. He was dominated.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
We gotta say this, Nobody ever talking about Pittsburgh University
as a home of goats. All right, they have Tomy
dor said, Damn Marino, me and Joe Green, uh, Shady McCoy.
They got LARRYS. Fitzger, and they got Darrel Reeves like like.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You're forgetting the monster himself who de tackle himself, Aaron Donald.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
So when people talk about pitt they don't talk about
like a football factory.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But Pe and State y'all can live. Bit to my love,
it's pitt who putting the players out there.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Who was the first, who was the top three receivers
you guys face in our career. Well, I guess you're going.
You can say career or you can, you know, put
him from wherever.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I guess it's all right.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
And when y'all say the top go, you gotta be
careful how you preface this, because you know there's some
guys who are gonna watch this and.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Want to talk.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's not even necessarily about because see.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I talking about top three this whoever I want to.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Say, it's Arizona ones. You can say in there, you
can bring them into the equation. But whoever, whoever you
felt like what that guy gave me problems.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You know, tall receivers did not give me problems.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
It was your top three man, give me your list first,
and didn't tell me.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Why shut up? Come on, let me talk at the
end of this.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You scared at the end.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I'm trying to see because Randy. I had good games
against Randy, pretty good games against t O. So the
normal suspects ain't gonna be the suspects that.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
You not just because you had good games and who
you might had a good game. This was nice though,
that was nice. I always thought Pleix was nice.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Plexico birds, you ain't think that like me and Plex
Say I had some battles. That's that's cause Plex wild
and you wild. No, because Plex is six six pounds
and it gets smooth and it can move. Then you
got Steve Smill. I know y'all wanted me to bring
him up. I didn't want you to bring him.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I let you just say Chad before Steve probably gave me.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Steve gave me problem than Chad did. I knew how
to kind of hand the Chad. And then I would
go Reggie Wayne, because Reggie, you.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Sat like physical guys, sound like you don't like physical.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Well, Reggie was hard for me to study because he
had no glaring.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
If I'm studying sat Town, he's glaring. Thing is speed?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Wait a minute, do, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Do let's let's's let we play Arizona. Marvin Harrison Junior
is a big name and you're not even naming his daddy.
And you named Reggie before.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
He ain't got the name of dad. His dad ain't
give me no problem that time I checked it. Daddy,
I picked the.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Ball, so I said, you're going off the top three
he received.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You call his granddaddy, mister Harrison Senior. Pick him up
to tell man my three.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Not that they gave me problems, but they were good.
I'll say, Randy, Randy is Randy has to be in
the discussion any more. I'm gonna tell you a guy
that a lot of people don't talk about, but he
did give me problems. And uh, Jimmy Smith for the Jacksonville,
Jack That's.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
How I learned how to play cone through Jimmy Smith.
I don't think people.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Really upst talk about him, about him being slighted a little.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
In his youth, Jacksonville, Jimmy, Jimmy Smith. Randy is Randy
than it's Jimmy Smith. And I might surprise some people.
And I'm gonna give up, you know, I have to
because I think it's deserving of it. I probably played
against him the most. He's probably my art whatever, he's
probably my arch nemesis. I probably would say I want
(19:41):
to have to give a shout out to my man
t O.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
We had a little incident. We had a little sharping incident.
You know, we talked about shopping. I should have picked
it up. Let you forget that. I never let me
forget that. Shopping to work right now happened.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
So with all that said, give me give me top
three receivers. You face. He's going up against Arizona.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Oh, it's easy, go ahead, and I mean Larry Fitzgerald
and Kwambode, David Boston.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Okay, mine was whatever. Uh, Frank was nice. There was
more though Frank was nice. Uh, it would have to
be Larry Boss Mmm, Larry Boston and Kwan. Yeah, let
me lett let me, let let me tell you about
and Kwando a lot of things that people don't get.
(20:30):
And Kwan, first of all, was a much better athlete
than people knew.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
His body didn't look like his body looked like you
had the body of Abo Samuel. She was Deebo said
he had the big he's faster than Debo.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Yeah, but you're talking about dude had catch radio. She
can catch any ball around him. And my thing was,
you know, I felt like I can and post my
will on almost every receiver I faced, probably did during
my career. So I tried to like bully and twine Boulder.
(21:07):
He wasn't going for it, man, Arry boy, Yeah, cornerback.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You know, I was two hundred one seven for the
most part.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Listen, but anyway, third yeah, but anyway, So I tried
to bully this dude, you know, and man, this dude's
just physical toughness, was crazy man, tough as nails, man tantan.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It was hard for me going going against Yeah, you
ain't got to telling people about all the stuff they know.
Give you a little bit of your old medicine, man,
all right, talking about those receivers.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Steve Smith three for thirteen last time three three three,
three catches for thirty nine yards.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Oh, Youtham said, the last time I checked to you,
he had as many catches as.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
A dead man. The same thing that I.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Want. Just think about those guys. Bring up different quarterbacks
that had one. One in particular, Kirk Warner. You have
a face, Curt Up. I faced Kirk in Arizona. I
faced Kirk in New York.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I was in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I faced him in Saint Louis. In Arizona. He took
him with Super Bowl I think was super Bowl like.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
He reinvigorated that team. He gave him everything that they
were missing. All they was missing was a trigger man
and the leader.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Great football story too, Football movie, A great football movie too.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Kurt Kirk Wanner story.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I can't wait till they do the fresh move story.
But at the end of the day, the one thing
I can say about Kirk his touch. Yeah he might
then't have the biggest but he letting that ball go
way before them receivers coming out of their cuts. He
throwing to a spot. The one thing once he hiked
the ball, he was one of those guys. He's gonna
process what covers we in and he disciplined enough to
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go only to the weakness of their defense. So it
wasn't like he was trying to win individual battles like
let's say, pairing up me gets air corner him. No,
he's trying to go to where the defense can't stop
his ball, and that's why he turned out over.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Kurt Warner is the best cardinal. I know it's not
mind but not a question. But the quarterback Neil Lomax, No, Lo,
Max ain't better than Kirk Warner. Kirk Warner got him
to like it would have to be Jake Plumber.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Kirk.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
It's Kurt Kirk Warner is Neil Lomax's was a beast, right, Yeah,
but you know Max Jersey, Okay, you're right, Okay, what
was the question make a movie about?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I asked, how did you you know, like, what was
the matchup like going against Kirk?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, yeah, Kirk.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I seen him at the rams and stuff, and he
was good. It was a good play. I mean, smart
is the one word description I would say about Kurt.
To Smooth's point, I think he just knew where to
go with the ball. He anticipated. You couldn't trick him.
So a lot of times on defense side of the ball,
you see some quarterbacks and you think you can move around,
show different disguises, different coverage.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That guy couldn't be tricked. No, no, he won't gonna
be tricked.
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Speaker 2 (25:55):
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this week against the car Free Agency.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
You know, when you think about setting the tone and
some of the guys that we bought in, Frankie Lavoux
sticks out for me.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I've been a big fan of that.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Kid Armstrong Bedish Beaddish Eckler.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
McKellen, let's talk about impact in the newest commanders in
free agency.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Tann and I were free agents.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Free agents. Uh, we don't defected. We don't call you
a free agent because you came back to where you started.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Tan and I.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
So let's talk about the impact of free agents having
on this team week four.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You got to see him over the first three weeks. Yeah,
what you got you?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You know, I talk about the guy who I feel
like has been a great I guess you can say
leader in that space, in that room on the officive side,
is Austin Eckler, you know. I mean, I think what
he brought to the running back room is one his
ability to do something, the things he's able to do
between the tackles and outside the parker catching the ball
and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
His toughness.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
When we watched this guy for years in San Diego
and then his last year in LA and it seems
to me that he's still the same guy. He hasn't
missed the beat, and just not only just you know,
from a player perspective, man, just who he can be
to that to.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Those guys would be rob being the guy at times
you can.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Always rest assured that you got a guy over there
who's a veteran, has been through it that that be
robbed the lean on. And that's one of the things
I asked him a few weeks ago about, you know
what he brings to that room as a whole, and
teaching some young guys how to become a pro or
be great pros.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And so he's he's he's one of the first guys
that jump out of my mind.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I'm gonna go Tyler Beattish because I think what he's
did is solidify the middle of the agor line period
about because he already been in his NFC East and
I watched him battle Desk Claunch from the Giants, and
I realized he's played against him, I think seven times
or six times, and he's yet to give up a
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sack of pressure against that.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Type of guy.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
So when you're getting a new quarterback in here, having
a center that can call the ligne, cause called the line.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Stunts put you in the h.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Where you should be at on the offensive line, I
have to go him, and I think what he is
doing because we had a revolving those so long with
the center positions, and if you don't have that, to me,
you don't have an offensive line. So I think what
he's bought to this team can't even be counted with money.
I just think what he's doing and the leadership that
he's bringing. And also I had to give an unable
(28:36):
mentioned to Jed I mean to Jeri Machen because not
only did he walk into a defensive back room that
he's the grandfather in, he's the oldest guy in there.
I think he's taking a leadership of verbal leadership in
that back end and has become the main communicator.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
So I also want to get him that as Unble mentioned.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Yeah, so late on the show we got Zach Ertz
and Tanna Man we talked about.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
A tight end being a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
A quarterback and this guy been in the league some
time now and we're gonna get a chance to talk
to him. But he's been impressive. Man, I mean, what's
your thoughts about.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Gas in the town.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
You know what we say is he's a guy that
still has a lot of trade on his tires, and
I think when you look at it, Uh, immediately, when
I knew he was getting a young quarterback in here
to lead this team, that's the first thing you say, Well,
who's the tight end? Because you want to make sure
that guy is solidified and has a track record that
he can be that safety net, you know. I mean
that's first infemost. I don't care who you are, you
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gotta get that man's best friend almost like.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
That, you know that dog.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Explain it.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
When you say safety that you mean somebody who can
win or when you need him bail you out. What's
the safety that with that and above make it easy.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
For He's gonna make it easy. He's gonna always find
a way to be open.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
So if the quarterback have to say, well, I don't
see it on our side, right, I got this, And
most of the time you gotta understand I don't. I mean,
you see this all the time with Kelsey out there
in Kansas City. It don't matter how good those guys
are at the tight end position. Defenses just don't have
a man to stop these guys too big, you know
what I'm saying, too big for safety and so yes,
(30:16):
so it's just odd to me that you have so
much going on in these coordinators, the defensive coordinator's mind
about stopping this particular you know, or formation. But you
leave the tight end one on one with somebody and
say beat them Okay, I'm gonna beat them every time.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
So that's what I mean, that's what Earth's bring to
our team.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I think he's a great safety, that he's a great leader,
and he's a guy that you know, he's seen it all,
you've done it all.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
So when you have a young quarterback, you can rest
assure that you got a guy in him in the field.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
He's also a coach on his team. He's a coach
on the field because he's been in his offense.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
And I want to pivot that because before we move
on out of our coach on the field, Bobby Wagner swimp. Yeah,
Seattle guy free agency the league and tackles year before
and now he's here, in fact, just a leader.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Like that's why I think we didn't even bring him up,
because they go with our saying that at the end
of the day, this guy brings everything.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well he brings when he walks in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Right now, whoever used to be the leader, ain't the
leader no more because you because I'm gonna follow him
because he's been in the yellow brick road. He's one championships,
he understands, so he just bring another level of expectations
to everybody else.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, and he's faced and we're playing Arizona's career a
short week. Yeah, the leader in the field. We got
to prepare for a short week and we can talk
about what's that like? But now he's seen Colin Murray?
So what happens now?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Like?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
What advice does he gonna tell everybody how to stop him?
When you play against Klin Murray, you want to keep
him in the pocket. You know, a sugar rush. You
want to rush just enough up the field of college
and sugar field rush, sugar feels you woke up. But
you're not gonna go chase You're not gonna go chase
him because we want him to stay in the pocket
at five ten, we want him.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
To have to throw. So that is that Bobby Wagners
a mic? Or is that you? You actually?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Because he's a small, fast guy, you get a I
don't want my edges. Are you gonna spy him?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I don't need to spy him. I want him in
the pocket.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
But I mean, with all I said, I mean, I
feel you.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
But it seems from the film I'm watching, every team
has done that, and he still finds.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
A way to get it there.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
That's what we have to have.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
A guy like Wagner who played against him at the
Seahawks and a ram so at the end of the day,
this guy has more repetition with him and understand it.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Let's let's it's ways to get things done.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
But most of the time his plays that E'd have
made after the frame of the play call when the
play breaks down. So now we need to be ready
by that and be ready for that. And no, I
don't want one person tracking him. I want to hold
d line tracking him.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Short week, sure, short week, right, so you need that,
Bobby Wagner, Yeah, short week, your routine, guy, you you
a hamstring, get work, make sure you take care of
your body.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, I mean you know how we did.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
What happens, the guys will be already locked and lords,
I mean a guy that I use from you. I'll
tell you like, if I was playing right now today,
I'd have been done, had Mail already on his flight,
so by the time I touched back down. Because you
know you're playing Monday night and then you got to
go to right back to work on tuesdays. You ain't
you gotta you basically gotta have a walk through on Tuesday.
It ain't no getting no treatment. I have mail already
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at my house late Monday night.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Sure there's no off day. So you're saying, Tuesday is Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Tuesdays work Tuesdays the day that I'm finna get everything
that I normally get done on Mondays. I'm gonna get
it done on Tuesdays with knowing that I still got
to go out there and be productive in a little
walk through, because you got to get a walk through
and on Tuesday, because one is gonna take some of
that information out your body. And then along with that,
we got to go over stuff that we miss cued on,
you know what I mean, things that you didn't do well.
Coaches always want to get on the field and say,
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let's run through it. Let's walk through it so we
can see it again. So I have my guys lined up.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
I want.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I want to have from a physical standpoint, smooth in
the back end. Man short week.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Colin Murray, you got some corrections from from since the
Monday night game. Do you kind of that's kind of
glance over this corrections or we straight into Arizona?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Is what's the balance? You gotta correct? You gotta self
correct gotta self check. But you only have so much time.
We can't dwell on it.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
We gotta said we got it, Joe. What would be
the difference between the typical week and a short week.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
We're gonna get in here.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
We're gonna find out what we did wrong, because we're
probably gonna play these two quarterbacks different. One is a
pocket passer who's gonna be a surgeon in the pocket.
One is a jitterbug that's gonna try to get his
way outside of the play and make plays. So now
we'll let's just say we was a little bit more
man heavy going again, say two man heavy going against
Joe Burrow. Now we're gonna be a bit zoned heavy
(34:45):
going against a running quarterback. So all he living is
watching him is he tried to make these plays. So
it's two different quarterbacks. We gotta play two different ways.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
But that's that's hard in the short week.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
It's been hard in the short week because they're telling
us we can't take a lot of what we did
it last week. We're gonna have to We're gonna have
to do We're gonna do more installing. Then we are
gonna actually practice.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Well, let me ask you this because a big thing
for me was we we had each week as a defense.
We had special game plans, like what you're talking aout,
We're gonna stop this sky.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
You can only put so much in because it's a
short week, right, is what you're saying. You're gonna keep
it simple.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I'm gonna keep it simple, and I'm gonna have a
couple of designs in. Think about it.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
If we're gonna play mostly zoned, so I'll be living
can watch where Kylin Murray is. So they're gonna mean
if we do blitz, it's gonna be zone blitzing, allright.
So this what we're gonna lean on. We're gonna lean
on everything looking like Cover two. Like we're gonna make
everything look like Cover two the whole week.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Which you still show him some of those formations where
he don't have a really spot to throw at and
still find a way to get somebody in there that
he didn't expect. Like you know what I mean, because
you know, normally if you say you're gonna zone blitz
that I'm I'm imagining you in some form of two and.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Saying, okay, I gotta three two.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
But I'm saying most of time I got that, you
want me you three give them a little bit more. Yeah,
I'm saying as a receiver, you give him three, he's
gonna find somebody real quick. He can get go out
in the backfield right now. And two, you got guy
in the flat, got got in the hose.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
You got guys deep.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So it's like who you sneak in in a cover
of two set and that you can get in his
getting his getting that mess.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
You guys might not sneaking my bluff.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I can say bluff, like if we're gonna fire zone
it let's just say we're gonna run some fire zones.
Usually in the fire zone we'll drop a defensive end
sometime and exchange him with speed. And when I say speed,
I'm talking about the nickel our linebacker. Well, this week
because of Kyler Murray jitterbugers, I don't want to put
that d line in in space with him. Yeah, So
(36:40):
I'm gonna keep it tight and make the zone blitz
and then five blitz happen with the bigs. So so
actually we're gonna do what we already do. We're just
gonna supplement and tell some people to do another job.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
So the team it's going out to Arizona, Uh, to
spend a week out there.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
I think you know one of the things that you
find outbout oh has.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
It been ause some teams are way go out to
the West coast two days before.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
We have no reason, We have no time to be
thinking about. If you know what I mean, you got
a job.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
We gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
You know now we know what the answer might be
for us. We might not like it, but I gotta
go play ball. I gotta play. I gotta make this
thing like home when I get there.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I would rather go to Arizona and Denver for the
week than pop up on Friday. I want to be
a jested I won't. I want everything to work, and
I don't care about being in it all work. No
plates on being on the road. But you mentioned Arizona
and Denver. I know that everybody know the altitude a Denver. Yeah,
(37:36):
while Arizona. While you're saying that, well, I know it's
an indoor game, but it's it's nothing like being in
Our environment is very high humidity, so it's moisture in
the era where we at. Well, when we go to Arizona,
it's no moisture in the air, but your body gonna
continue to try to pull that moisture out the air.
It is a difference in that environment, like we are
(37:57):
product in that environment and their environment is a dry environment.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Give me an example when you did that.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
We used to do it all the time when I
was in Seattle, because you know, we would fly playing
Miami and we'd have Tampa.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
And y'all were stay and we would stay either go
up to Carolina or something like that.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So for me, I think it was easier going to
the East Coast then going to the West coast.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yes, because the East coast teams are prone to have
how should I say, places with all seasons, and we're
very like vegetative. It's different like when you go out
there and it's dry, it's literally dry heat. Your body
takes some dry heat differently, and they got that advantage on.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Us with I would have thought that, I mean, the
reason why you would come to the East coast because
now you're waking up a much earlier than you yo.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Your biological class.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Coming from the East going to the West.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I was able to adapt them one night because I'm like,
you know, if I'm gonna wake up later, So me
I'm already up, you know what.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I mean, But I get nervous. I like to get
the game going.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, but I'm saying like, if you're coming from the
coming from the west, coming to the east, that's a
little that's a drastic turnel round for you guys, because y'all.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Used to you know what I mean, that.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Everything.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, so I would always thought that that would have
probably been one of the little handicaps for y'all.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
But I mean, teach his own, you know.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
Yeah, playing on the West coast is a whole different animal.
I think you're right for me being in Arizona, you know,
when we're going out there early, I think I don't
know people understand how hot is this, even though I
will say they're playing in the indoor, it.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Don't matter, but you get off their bus and walk
into that building. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Yeah, people, if you have to understand we are product
of the environment, then when we go to that.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
But I like sleep in my bed though too though
something torn, man, I mean, you.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Like you hate being in the hotels, man, know, I
understand ain't nothing like I mean I'm saying for you
might way sleep in it. I had a routine during
the week man, I like to do it to see
my family postopedic.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I hate that postaphede with the remote baby.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Well, hey, fellas, that's a route.
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Speaker 3 (41:39):
How you doing, man doing well?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
How are you guys doing good?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Welcome back to the division. Oh right, this is the
division you was born in exactly, and now you're in
this division. How does it feel to look at it
from a different view because you was looking at it
from a Philadelphia view and now you're looking at it
from a Washington view.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
Yeah, I mean, I've loved my time here. Obviously this
division is the best division in football.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I agree, it's.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
It's not even close in my opinion, with the teams,
the history that all the all the teams have in
this division. So I'm happy to be back for sure,
And I've loved my time here so far. It's obviously
been a short amount of time, but I love the
d m V area, My family loves it, and so
it's been a lot of fun and a robbery.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Right, So obviously Philly you had a certain type robbery.
Now Washington we got a robbery with the team in
south and different type of robberies.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
What difference have you noticed, oh Man?
Speaker 8 (42:26):
I mean, we only had one divisional game so far,
and it was intense, and these the games did not
they were very different than when I was back in Philly.
They were intense that they're they're not always the prettiest
of games. And then you just got to find a
way to win. And if it takes seven field goals,
(42:47):
that's what it takes. It takes, and so we just
had to get.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
It done and we we got you to Washington. Obviously
we had a lot of respect for you. Come play
for coach Quinn. Yeah, what was the deciding factor to
get you here?
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Man?
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Oh Man?
Speaker 8 (43:02):
After last year in Arizona was extremely difficult physically, mentally, emotionally,
and I kind of just took the last half of
the season just to kind of take a reset and
get back to one hundred percent health and get back
to myself when I essentially trained for the past nine
months to do that, and I wanted the right opportunity.
I didn't want to just go somewhere that, hey, you're
(43:23):
going to just play a few plays be an insurance policy.
I wanted to go to a place that one believed
in me, and Cliff Kingsbury is one of those guys
that's always believed in me, even before I was in
Arizona and a team that was going to have a
lot of energy, played.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
The football the right way, practice the right way.
Speaker 8 (43:40):
And I had heard nothing but amazing things about coach
Quinn and he's far exceeded every expectation I had going
into this thing, just the way he demands of the player,
how much energy him and his staff bring. I can't
speak enough good things about my entire experience, from ownership
on down to the coaches to the support staff.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
It's been great. Speaking of years in the league, did
you think you would be the leading receiver in week two?
Speaker 4 (44:05):
You just said I won't it. I still want to
be featured that way. Did you think you'll still be
the leading receiver in week two? And then they catch
on this sideline, take us through their kitch. Is their
ball floated through the air, because at first when I
when I seen them let it go out, like oh,
there's like an easy play, But then I seen the
dB come up stretching the ball away from the dB
take us through their play.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
I mean, first, talking about my expectations, I think for me,
the way I approached the game, how hard I trained.
I feel like the last year and a half were
tough because I didn't get the chance to showcase what
I could do, and that wore on me a little
bit for sure. And I still fulfill myself as the
same player that I was here for the past ten years,
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last year kind of being the anomaly. And then when
the ball went up last week in that game, like
you said, I kind of thought I was wide open.
At first, Yeah, I was like, oh, there's gonna be
catch and run. See what happens after the catch. And
then at the last second, I kind of felt the
guy on my back and kind of had the ball
essentially going to the ground, and I was just like, no,
this is gonna be mine. I got that new dad
strength it comes, and so yeah, it was. It was
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awesome that Jaden gave me a chance and so I
was just able to make the play.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Thinking about that, So, coach, can Coach Kingsburg give you opportunity?
Rookie quarterback mans a lot of veteran guys, man, I
don't you know, I don't know if what I'm gonna
do with a rookie quarterback. What were your thoughts?
Speaker 8 (45:31):
Yeah, when I was just when I was thinking about
where I was going to be, one of the things
that I did ask was that what is the quarterback
situation there? Yeah, because last year in Arizona without Kyler,
it was extremely, extremely difficult to play with them, and
so I didn't want that opportunity. But then again, when
you draft the guys second overall, you expect he's going
to have something to and so Jaden has been phenomenal.
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I think he's going to be one of the best
players in the league for a long time. And I
do not say that lightly, and it's.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Not really because that's a big statement.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
You play with quick.
Speaker 8 (46:06):
His physical traits are there, but it's as intangibles that
are going to be able to really separate him. He's
the first one in the building, the last one out.
He works his butt off. He's one of the guys.
He's not one of these quarterbacks that come in they
get draft the number two overall, or they have a heisman,
that think they're kind of they should be treated differently
than everyone else. He just wants to be one of
the guys. Guys kind of gravitate towards him, and he's
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a phenomenal player. We got to get him to slide
maybe a little more.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
He got this drop, took and road did he do it?
Speaker 8 (46:36):
But overall, I mean, he's been so fun to play
with so far, and I think our chemistry has been
great and it's only going to get better the more
we play together, the more we see certain coverages together.
And so I've had a lot of fun so far.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
You three time Pro Bowl, Super Bowl champ, certified in
this league. I'm sure some of these young guys pict
your brain ext you questions. I'm sure you offered a
lot of questions. Could you give us some of the
knowledge that you've traded with some of these young guy
But we do have a very young rock.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (47:04):
I think part of the leadership status per se is
honestly just how you approach today. It's not like I'm
going to go in there and hold these rookies hands
and be like, you need to do X, Y and Z.
It's more that the way I feel like I approach
the game can rub off on everyone, the way.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
I practice, the way I studied film. I'm an open book.
Speaker 8 (47:27):
I've told the tight End since we first met in
April or May and or April when we first got
out here that hey, whatever you guys need, I'm here.
But I'm also not their coach. So if you have
a question, I'd be willing to answer it no matter
what on the field off the field. But I think
the thing that I think I want, the kind of
impact I want to have is the way I practice.
I love practicing. I think it's the most important thing.
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I think it's at the forefront of how you play
the game. And so the way my practice habits, I
feel like, are things that I want people to resonate.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
I used to tell Smooth that all the time, team
exactly seriously, man, like you talk about practice and all that.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
I got energy. Man, I had twins, brother, you got
a lot of you got a lot of energy.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Congratulations by the way, twin boys, right, congratulations with that.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
Tell me what y'all is, how does it work? Because
I don't have a set of twins. Do you like,
hand your wife a baby, she hands you one back?
Because I can only think with twins, do you ever
get a break?
Speaker 8 (48:28):
Well, the mom is always the one that's better at comforting,
So the one that's crying always.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Don't just don't mess it up.
Speaker 5 (48:41):
The unique thing about twins, the great things about twins
is like, especially twin boys, they're gonna keep each other company.
And what you notice even as babies, like my boys
would just like lay on top of each other day, right,
So I didn't want one drinks the other one. They
were they're infraternal but they're very close and that one
is bigger than another one and takes the other one about.
But the cool thing about that experience, man, is uh
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the bond that you see between two humans brothers. So
but that also means when one gets six, the other
one is gonna get sick, yeah, teething, Like.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
The process comes in tools. So I could just take
it as a parent, it had, you know, one child
at a time.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
I was like, this could be a little bit overwhelming,
especially during the season, like because I didn't get into
sleep when when I had that, and then I was like,
I'm coming to work. I still got to have this energy.
How do you manufacture doing your job at work and
doing your job at home that balance?
Speaker 8 (49:38):
Yeah, I think also a family a lot of help Grandma.
My wife is absolutely crushing it. We also have a
two year old boy, so we have we started with
the twins, and we have a lot of a lot
going on. We have three boys two and under. But
we also understand this is a season of our life.
Then it's a phenomenal season of life and we're so
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has to be able to have three healthy little boys.
And I go home and sometimes it's that five o'clock
hour and it's just chaos when I get open the door.
But at the same time, my wife has done like
so so gone so far and beyond of what like
I knew of her before because she was like a
phenomenal athlete in her own right and now seeing.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Her in my Olympias, yeah, soccer player.
Speaker 8 (50:25):
So just to see her in this fashion of life
or this season of life for her has just been amazing.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
I got to actually do which one ways the most
in the household your super Bowl, ring, Olympics, which.
Speaker 8 (50:36):
One which one is that she doesn't have. She has
an Olympic bronze, but I don't care. It's Rose Golden
Nerds house. But she's got two World Cups.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
That's big time.
Speaker 8 (50:49):
So she's uh and she's the best player in the
world in my opinion for years, best of her position
for sure. And so we met in college. She didn't
know I played football. I didn't know she played soccer.
So he was built so far past. That's good, that's fun.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
But thanks man having a show. But we do have
a tradition here of the players club. We asked all
the players to sign the ball man which you signed
Jonathan Allen, he took he signed the ball.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
To big of course it would be John Allen Asperans Finals. Yeah, exactly.
Thanks brother.
Speaker 5 (51:29):
Well, it was great having you on the show, Man,
and good luck going forward with the season with all
the energy despite having three kids.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
I love that. And uh, congratulations man on everything.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Definitely home
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
We always love to have second week in the row,
all fellers. Wein't got that much time. A short week,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
We go to Arizona. You know how them trips is
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Gotta be focused. But it's gotta be focused.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
On the Arizona. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna dive
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Speaker 3 (00:48):
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Speaker 1 (00:49):
It's time for drive Time, presented by Easton Automotive Crew,
Any car anyway for everyone. Since nineteen eighty eight, our
young rookie, I'm gonna say Phenom because that's what he is,
quarter up against another young rookie, Phenom, Rovin Harrison Junior. Yeah,
true play against his daddy. What was it like, man?
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You know, we was all rookies. You know what was
it like facing one of your counterparts, man, one of
the guys that came in your draft class, and you
know who is that one guy or who was those
guys you ever you had to face against that.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
First game of the season.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Were playing to then San Diego super Charges, right and
the LT. So that's me and ly Danny, you know,
the same Playboy American group. And actually they playing on
the same field that the Padres play off. So that
was the first time really playing on the baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It was horrible. But I remember when the game first
started and you know.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Your rookie year, you still kind of starscrug. So I'm
watching Doug Fluted warm up.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And I'm like, damn, am I finna get burnt by
Doug Fly like Maxis myself did.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Then I look over there LT, so you know, we're
giving each other head and now we dapping from each
other up.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So also we kind of chatted each other.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I'm like, I better have a turn on before you
get a touchdown, right, I bet you don't. We go
right into the game and it's like four plays into
the game and they try to beat me on a
deep post with Curtis Comeway and I intercept the ball.
I get my first interception. So I get my first interception.
I run right to the sideline and I do this.
He knows what I'm talking about. So I never lied,
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though I was more because I never sit down that game.
Like when Office was on the field, I stood up.
I watched the game and I could have sworn it
was like three junior Sayurs out there.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
He made so and I was stop scrooked by junior sayo.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
He made so mold Moddey because they would let they
would build a defense around letting him do whatever he
wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And we lost that first game.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
But I end up with NFC Defensive Player of the
Week because I got an interception, seven tackles, and I got.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
A forced form. We started as a rookie. I started
as a rookie, Ferry, I'm a first day starter.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Now I know how you feel. I'm saying I was
a bit tip. I had some DB's on talking about that.
It was like d Green. Then I was like, I
remember the first time I walked in that room.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I see I had already been talking to Prime in college,
so I had a relationship with him right. And people
don't understand for my first couple of weeks. I wore
twenty three, never to play in it, but I wore it.
And I walked in the mean room and Prime was
sitting in his recliner.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
He got a recliner. Uh D Green was sitting right
there and chimp.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Then I was like, I walked back out of there, boy,
And I walked back to Marshanahemo there with my coach
drafting team. I was like, why did you draft me?
He's like, boy, go in there the mean room. Everything's
gonna be all right because now I'm sitting here with
my idol. I'm sitting with the bitch Washington cornerbacker all time,
and I'm sitting with a young future Hall of Famer
Felum and cham Bailey.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So it was it was sobering. Yeah, probably it was sobering.
I was like, do every dB room look like this? Yes,
that's suring this.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
But I earned it through prat and by the time
they first game came, I thought I was reading and
I started out pretty fast as a rookie. So this
is the game that I understood them four quarters. Let
me understood, Yeah, you can't play on this level. You
do belong with the rest of these guys, that's good.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
What about you? I think for me?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
You know, in my drift class of rookie, a big
name wasn't necessarily a receiver. But y'all remember named Tony Gonzalez.
Of course, yeah, of course you remember to come on, man,
come on, man, knock it all. But anyway, TG and
I and another guy, uh that was in the class.
Two offensive guys in that class was a guy named
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Ray Caruth and the other one was Tony Gonzales. But
Tony Gonzalez and I got drafted to the AMC West
at the time. I was at Seattle, he was at
Kansas City, and we had developed a rapport and her
friendship and stuff. But I remember the first time playing
Kansas City and they had.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well shield that offensive line had they had that mob.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
They had Eric Thomas Dale, Carter, James Smithy, Neil Smith,
the car that the team was loaded, right, yeah, uh,
little McMillan was a nickel back. They were loaded and
markha Marty was the coach of that team, and Tony
was on that team. And so that was for me.
But my rookie year, man like that was the one
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rookie receiver or something. I can think going against But
my rookie year, uh reopened up with the Jets and
I had loud mouth.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Johnson, you know, who was the first pick the year before.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I had to hear his mouth the whole time, man
talk about you can't check me, you know, and he
was a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Keishan had a pretty good game.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I think he had like six catches that game. But
uh yeah, so you know, it's just signing the rookie
and you get to see somebody in your draft class. Though,
TG was how many picks did you end up with
your rookie year.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
M I don't know. I think I might have one.
This is it, this is yeah. I had five, your
second have your second year a little bit five?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, my rookie year one, like none of you guys,
I still have more than you know.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Unfortunately, my rookie year, I was sitting. I would sitting
on the sideline eating something.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I see with all cap he was injured.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I was injured.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I heard before I even played the preseason game. So
I tore my knee up or whatever. I really didn't
tear it up that bad. I had the moniscus lateral meniscus.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
There, but put us in the mind of somebody drafted
highlight that and now it would go from playing to
all I can do is watch.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It was devastating. I think you got to think about it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I was just a guy that was removed from years
prior to that in college, broke my job before the
season and told them to put a play in and
let me go play, you know, one game. So to
come to finally, you know, I walked in the college
in the back, you know, taking the back door, like
I had to go in as a walker, you know
what I mean. To come out of that situation and
be a first round draft pick to the Big Apple, Yeah,
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and not be able to.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Play like these fans are waiting on. It was devastating.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
In New York, media was crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Media was killing me mentally, it was It was hard
for me.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But you know, I can tell you one thing, man,
it built. It built more character in me.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It made me strong, and it made me understand sit
back and have to see things from a different perspective.
I think one of the things I took out of
that not having that time to play. When I finally
did come in and play, if was not even a
shell of myself.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So it was like a waste of time.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Was like, I literally came in with the last Force
Force regular season games and they put me out there
and they want to see something special, and I'm like, boy,
take me back home.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I'm not for this.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But you know, in a nutshell, when I finally got
a chance to the next year, if that's like my
rookie season the second year, I remember playing against Ladanian.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Truth, I ran a pump back.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I went up there and playing them in sant Go,
ran a pump back for a touchdown. Nate Clemens was
in my division, he played. I was at the bad name.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
So it was always fun.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Shout out to all those corners.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Speaking of speaking of those guys and talking about Jayden
going up against you know, Marvin Harrison were playing at Arizona.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
What are some of y'all marrieds playing?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Can I talk about that? Can I talk about that?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Thinking about that, because there's another rookie that we drafted
here and Washington who's very familiar with Marvin Harrison played
against when he was at Michigan, Mike Cinastre.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
So remember, you.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Know, so that that was a little that's a little
rub there because he was the guy in the Ohio
State Michigan game talking about Marvin Harrison and all that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So it's gonna be he had the business.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
He had no business that game or something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You got hurt the Georgia game in the playoff game.
But but he was.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
He was the one rally in the Michigan troops getting
after So it's gonna be interesting because Marvin.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
He introduced itself to the league last week. Yes, then
what he did, he introduced itself to the league.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And you know them, them youngster's gonna have these games
where they pop out and show that they belong.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think Mike Sanders still to be okay, you better be.
We need him, We need him.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Tell me somebody to Cartoners.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You'll remember, Oh, I remember David Boston shout out to dB.
He gets human.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Being I have ever seen to call himself a while.
I'll never forget him. And LeVar was talking to each
other before the game and they were standing right beside
each other. So I peeked over there and they was
the same side. I was like, I'm about.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
To throw it my what do the fans want me
to do with this? Moments of a man? Then as
I get closer to him, I like, because I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I don't let a game go back without talking to
lip pregame trash. So I started to walk up to him.
Now you know how to change him out with the
cut off shirts. As I get close to hi, I'm like, this,
you got a person growing out of his back like
he's huge.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And he turns around.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And he has this this I Pierson and he got
these red contexts on. So I like, this guy's an idiot.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
With him, I'm not saying nothing to him to his
game starts. So we get in the game right.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
The first play is a run play, and I'm really like,
I'm on the same side with their green Darrely is
in the nickel and he just grabs Daryl and just
literally just body slaves.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And I was like, you can't do that to the
old man. He said, I do it to a young
man like man, Dude, he's that bull yard. This dude
was out here like it was crazy man them my early.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Cart and I got a chance to watch the great
Nearus Williams.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, yeah, so that one day that was very good.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I'm on study the guys on the other side, and
that day a nearlyus picked the ball off and ran
into the house. So I studied him too, but I
had nightmarees to get David Boston, just a dark man, two.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Red eyes like this dude is not for the fan.
Give me a shout out to my boy, David Boston.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Homo.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Ohiose state great my man himself. But thinking about the
Colonels a lot of people. They had three big receivers.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
They had Frank and I'm trying to think of the
old the other guys was like, but all the receivers
were big, and Jake the snaky.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Won the job.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
So Jake Plumber won the quarterback job. I remember, and
I remember about the Coldinals.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Man.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Every single time you play in Arizona's about one hundred
degrees out there.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Man, oh you.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Know you know you it was like man, you was
like man, so hot out to everybody.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It's like wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
But a memory that came into mind for me as
I earned a lot of respect for Clinton porters when
we went out there, and I forget what year it was,
but Clinton, man, he put the team on his back.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I mean Agent Wilson and boys was hitting Clinton.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
He was another one classmate and they were hitting, they
was hitting Clinton and Clinton was carrying toe. He put
the team on his back and that's the infamous game
with shout out to my boy London Hert and Fletcher
thinking he was hurdling and surfing on people's back out there.
There was I was in London. I was the lesser
London flet game. It was a hurdle surf. I don't
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know what it was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So have to die? But yeah, but I was the game.
It was hot. We went in there, a tough physical
football game.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Always a tough physical team and uh not not good
at times, but good physical.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
They had new Arizona now.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Though, yeah, they totally different Arizona. I had had a
couple of memories. I think the one memory that stayed
out the most of me and a Z my first
year here. We went out there and I remember, you know,
just coming off of a game before I had a
good game and going to that game, a ball got
I guess bat it down and it hit me at
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the end and my finger was like this.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm walking back to the huddle and I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Like oh, and I felt it and I did snapped
it back and play's happen the next player, I catch
a bomb for about like thirty yards down the scene
and god, think what Taylor Jacobs, he looked.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
At me like, bro TJ. You just snapped your finger
back and that man, that's what you're doing. Man, we
got stepping in and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So I was just I was so I was so
busy on just trying to be accountable for, you know,
my actions, and just make sure I help myself account
and doing my job so I won't even.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
By the way, I did get a chance to watch
Pat Tillman rest in peace. I watched him play for
the Cardinals, and that was experience in his.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Often ask you, knowing we ain't gonna shut him out,
I'm gonna ask you about it.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
What was it like playing against him and Kumbo.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Basket of All.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I'm gonna tell you serious, because me and Aine Winfield
had to really go to battle with these dudes one time.
And it was inside on turf and I remember and
kwam bold and running like a five yard shlint and
I tackled it.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I tried to tackle it, and I slid out.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
The round down his big old leg and then the
one thing I can say about Fish Fitzgerald the ball,
he ain't letting the ball come to you. If you
think you're just gonna run beside him and picked the
ball off, No, he's going to He's going to go
get it at the.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
The most highest point. And the funny thing about it is.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
He used to be a ball boy for the Minnesota Vikings,
so his dad is a beat reporter for the Vikings.
So I got time trying to really know his history
and his upbringing. So then I wasn't shocked that he
was NFL Man of the Year because he just that
type of dude. But I had to ask myself if
I had to describe what's the best part of his game.
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I got to say, high point balls like he ain't
gonna give you a chance to pick it out, and
contested balls is.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
What he do.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
He wasn't really a blazer, but contested balls. He coming
down with that fifty ball.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Does Marvin Harrison, you know, give you that? As he
passed for Cheril, he be the next for Cheril franchise.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
He cared because he has a different gear. He got
a different gear. They got the same body, Bill, but
Marvein a little bigger than him. A little about taller
and that says it all anyway.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
But but I think Marvin has another gear that he
can kick in.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
This don't thing can separate him.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Now he's gonna have to prove to me that he
can make contests contested catches the way that fitst could.
And the one thing I say about Fitzgerald when anytime
Arizona needed to play, he was the guy. Like the
Super Bowl, he almost broke the Super Bowl over there
and gave the Cardinals their first super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I mean, you know you look at him and speaking
to him his his ball boy days, you know in Minnesota,
one of the guys that he kind of you know,
learned a lot from or who took a liking to him.
What's Chris car and so to see his ball handling
skills and know what christ life, it was almost like them.
So did Chris Carter really show you? Because it's like
you do the same thing, you just have different you
know or whatever. So, yeah, mom, he was special, you
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know as a receiver looking at other receivers, you know
what I mean, I'm gonna call the spade to spade man.
He was special. I mean, and he was in the
Big East. So I got a chance to see him
right after I left. You know what I mean, college
play against our guys in the Big East, and he
was just he was one of those guys he wanted
to in the car.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I believe one year he just was. He was dominated.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
We gotta say this, Nobody ever talking about Pittsburgh University
as a home of goats. All right, they have Tomy
dor said, Damn Marino, me and Joe Green, uh, Shady McCoy.
They got LARRYS. Fitzger, and they got Darrel Reeves like like.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You're forgetting the monster himself who de tackle himself, Aaron Donald.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
So when people talk about pitt they don't talk about
like a football factory.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But Pe and State y'all can live. Bit to my love,
it's pitt who putting the players out there.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Who was the first, who was the top three receivers
you guys face in our career. Well, I guess you're going.
You can say career or you can, you know, put
him from wherever.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I guess it's all right.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
And when y'all say the top go, you gotta be
careful how you preface this, because you know there's some
guys who are gonna watch this and.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Want to talk.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's not even necessarily about because see.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I talking about top three this whoever I want to.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Say, it's Arizona ones. You can say in there, you
can bring them into the equation. But whoever, whoever you
felt like what that guy gave me problems.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You know, tall receivers did not give me problems.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
It was your top three man, give me your list first,
and didn't tell me.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Why shut up? Come on, let me talk at the
end of this.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You scared at the end.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I'm trying to see because Randy. I had good games
against Randy, pretty good games against t O. So the
normal suspects ain't gonna be the suspects that.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
You not just because you had good games and who
you might had a good game. This was nice though,
that was nice. I always thought Pleix was nice.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Plexico birds, you ain't think that like me and Plex
Say I had some battles. That's that's cause Plex wild
and you wild. No, because Plex is six six pounds
and it gets smooth and it can move. Then you
got Steve Smill. I know y'all wanted me to bring
him up. I didn't want you to bring him.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I let you just say Chad before Steve probably gave me.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Steve gave me problem than Chad did. I knew how
to kind of hand the Chad. And then I would
go Reggie Wayne, because Reggie, you.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Sat like physical guys, sound like you don't like physical.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Well, Reggie was hard for me to study because he
had no glaring.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
If I'm studying sat Town, he's glaring. Thing is speed?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Wait a minute, do, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Do let's let's's let we play Arizona. Marvin Harrison Junior
is a big name and you're not even naming his daddy.
And you named Reggie before.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
He ain't got the name of dad. His dad ain't
give me no problem that time I checked it. Daddy,
I picked the.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Ball, so I said, you're going off the top three
he received.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You call his granddaddy, mister Harrison Senior. Pick him up
to tell man my three.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Not that they gave me problems, but they were good.
I'll say, Randy, Randy is Randy has to be in
the discussion any more. I'm gonna tell you a guy
that a lot of people don't talk about, but he
did give me problems. And uh, Jimmy Smith for the Jacksonville,
Jack That's.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
How I learned how to play cone through Jimmy Smith.
I don't think people.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Really upst talk about him, about him being slighted a little.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
In his youth, Jacksonville, Jimmy, Jimmy Smith. Randy is Randy
than it's Jimmy Smith. And I might surprise some people.
And I'm gonna give up, you know, I have to
because I think it's deserving of it. I probably played
against him the most. He's probably my art whatever, he's
probably my arch nemesis. I probably would say I want
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to have to give a shout out to my man
t O.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
We had a little incident. We had a little sharping incident.
You know, we talked about shopping. I should have picked
it up. Let you forget that. I never let me
forget that. Shopping to work right now happened.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
So with all that said, give me give me top
three receivers. You face. He's going up against Arizona.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Oh, it's easy, go ahead, and I mean Larry Fitzgerald
and Kwambode, David Boston.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Okay, mine was whatever. Uh, Frank was nice. There was
more though Frank was nice. Uh, it would have to
be Larry Boss Mmm, Larry Boston and Kwan. Yeah, let
me lett let me, let let me tell you about
and Kwando a lot of things that people don't get.
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And Kwan, first of all, was a much better athlete
than people knew.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
His body didn't look like his body looked like you
had the body of Abo Samuel. She was Deebo said
he had the big he's faster than Debo.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Yeah, but you're talking about dude had catch radio. She
can catch any ball around him. And my thing was,
you know, I felt like I can and post my
will on almost every receiver I faced, probably did during
my career. So I tried to like bully and twine Boulder.
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He wasn't going for it, man, Arry boy, Yeah, cornerback.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You know, I was two hundred one seven for the
most part.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Listen, but anyway, third yeah, but anyway, So I tried
to bully this dude, you know, and man, this dude's
just physical toughness, was crazy man, tough as nails, man tantan.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It was hard for me going going against Yeah, you
ain't got to telling people about all the stuff they know.
Give you a little bit of your old medicine, man,
all right, talking about those receivers.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Steve Smith three for thirteen last time three three three,
three catches for thirty nine yards.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Oh, Youtham said, the last time I checked to you,
he had as many catches as.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
A dead man. The same thing that I.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Want. Just think about those guys. Bring up different quarterbacks
that had one. One in particular, Kirk Warner. You have
a face, Curt Up. I faced Kirk in Arizona. I
faced Kirk in New York.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I was in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I faced him in Saint Louis. In Arizona. He took
him with Super Bowl I think was super Bowl like.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
He reinvigorated that team. He gave him everything that they
were missing. All they was missing was a trigger man
and the leader.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Great football story too, Football movie, A great football movie too.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Kurt Kirk Wanner story.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I can't wait till they do the fresh move story.
But at the end of the day, the one thing
I can say about Kirk his touch. Yeah he might
then't have the biggest but he letting that ball go
way before them receivers coming out of their cuts. He
throwing to a spot. The one thing once he hiked
the ball, he was one of those guys. He's gonna
process what covers we in and he disciplined enough to
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go only to the weakness of their defense. So it
wasn't like he was trying to win individual battles like
let's say, pairing up me gets air corner him. No,
he's trying to go to where the defense can't stop
his ball, and that's why he turned out over.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Kurt Warner is the best cardinal. I know it's not
mind but not a question. But the quarterback Neil Lomax, No, Lo,
Max ain't better than Kirk Warner. Kirk Warner got him
to like it would have to be Jake Plumber.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Kirk.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
It's Kurt Kirk Warner is Neil Lomax's was a beast, right, Yeah,
but you know Max Jersey, Okay, you're right, Okay, what
was the question make a movie about?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I asked, how did you you know, like, what was
the matchup like going against Kirk?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, yeah, Kirk.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I seen him at the rams and stuff, and he
was good. It was a good play. I mean, smart
is the one word description I would say about Kurt.
To Smooth's point, I think he just knew where to
go with the ball. He anticipated. You couldn't trick him.
So a lot of times on defense side of the ball,
you see some quarterbacks and you think you can move around,
show different disguises, different coverage.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That guy couldn't be tricked. No, no, he won't gonna
be tricked.
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Speaker 5 (25:48):
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Speaker 2 (25:55):
And the theme we want to talk about love. But
this week against the car Free Agency.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
You know, when you think about setting the tone and
some of the guys that we bought in, Frankie Lavoux
sticks out for me.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I've been a big fan of that.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Kid Armstrong Bedish Beaddish Eckler.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
McKellen, let's talk about impact in the newest commanders in
free agency.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Tann and I were free agents.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Free agents. Uh, we don't defected. We don't call you
a free agent because you came back to where you started.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Tan and I.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
So let's talk about the impact of free agents having
on this team week four.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You got to see him over the first three weeks. Yeah,
what you got you?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You know, I talk about the guy who I feel
like has been a great I guess you can say
leader in that space, in that room on the officive side,
is Austin Eckler, you know. I mean, I think what
he brought to the running back room is one his
ability to do something, the things he's able to do
between the tackles and outside the parker catching the ball
and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
His toughness.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
When we watched this guy for years in San Diego
and then his last year in LA and it seems
to me that he's still the same guy. He hasn't
missed the beat, and just not only just you know,
from a player perspective, man, just who he can be
to that to.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Those guys would be rob being the guy at times
you can.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Always rest assured that you got a guy over there
who's a veteran, has been through it that that be
robbed the lean on. And that's one of the things
I asked him a few weeks ago about, you know
what he brings to that room as a whole, and
teaching some young guys how to become a pro or
be great pros.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And so he's he's he's one of the first guys
that jump out of my mind.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I'm gonna go Tyler Beattish because I think what he's
did is solidify the middle of the agor line period
about because he already been in his NFC East and
I watched him battle Desk Claunch from the Giants, and
I realized he's played against him, I think seven times
or six times, and he's yet to give up a
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sack of pressure against that.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Type of guy.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
So when you're getting a new quarterback in here, having
a center that can call the ligne, cause called the line.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Stunts put you in the h.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Where you should be at on the offensive line, I
have to go him, and I think what he is
doing because we had a revolving those so long with
the center positions, and if you don't have that, to me,
you don't have an offensive line. So I think what
he's bought to this team can't even be counted with money.
I just think what he's doing and the leadership that
he's bringing. And also I had to give an unable
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mentioned to Jed I mean to Jeri Machen because not
only did he walk into a defensive back room that
he's the grandfather in, he's the oldest guy in there.
I think he's taking a leadership of verbal leadership in
that back end and has become the main communicator.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
So I also want to get him that as Unble mentioned.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Yeah, so late on the show we got Zach Ertz
and Tanna Man we talked about.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
A tight end being a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
A quarterback and this guy been in the league some
time now and we're gonna get a chance to talk
to him. But he's been impressive. Man, I mean, what's
your thoughts about.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Gas in the town.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
You know what we say is he's a guy that
still has a lot of trade on his tires, and
I think when you look at it, Uh, immediately, when
I knew he was getting a young quarterback in here
to lead this team, that's the first thing you say, Well,
who's the tight end? Because you want to make sure
that guy is solidified and has a track record that
he can be that safety net, you know. I mean
that's first infemost. I don't care who you are, you
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gotta get that man's best friend almost like.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
That, you know that dog.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Explain it.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
When you say safety that you mean somebody who can
win or when you need him bail you out. What's
the safety that with that and above make it easy.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
For He's gonna make it easy. He's gonna always find
a way to be open.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
So if the quarterback have to say, well, I don't
see it on our side, right, I got this, And
most of the time you gotta understand I don't. I mean,
you see this all the time with Kelsey out there
in Kansas City. It don't matter how good those guys
are at the tight end position. Defenses just don't have
a man to stop these guys too big, you know
what I'm saying, too big for safety and so yes,
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so it's just odd to me that you have so
much going on in these coordinators, the defensive coordinator's mind
about stopping this particular you know, or formation. But you
leave the tight end one on one with somebody and
say beat them Okay, I'm gonna beat them every time.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
So that's what I mean, that's what Earth's bring to
our team.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I think he's a great safety, that he's a great leader,
and he's a guy that you know, he's seen it all,
you've done it all.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
So when you have a young quarterback, you can rest
assure that you got a guy in him in the field.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
He's also a coach on his team. He's a coach
on the field because he's been in his offense.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
And I want to pivot that because before we move
on out of our coach on the field, Bobby Wagner swimp. Yeah,
Seattle guy free agency the league and tackles year before
and now he's here, in fact, just a leader.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Like that's why I think we didn't even bring him up,
because they go with our saying that at the end
of the day, this guy brings everything.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well he brings when he walks in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Right now, whoever used to be the leader, ain't the
leader no more because you because I'm gonna follow him
because he's been in the yellow brick road. He's one championships,
he understands, so he just bring another level of expectations
to everybody else.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, and he's faced and we're playing Arizona's career a
short week. Yeah, the leader in the field. We got
to prepare for a short week and we can talk
about what's that like? But now he's seen Colin Murray?
So what happens now?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Like?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
What advice does he gonna tell everybody how to stop him?
When you play against Klin Murray, you want to keep
him in the pocket. You know, a sugar rush. You
want to rush just enough up the field of college
and sugar field rush, sugar feels you woke up. But
you're not gonna go chase You're not gonna go chase
him because we want him to stay in the pocket
at five ten, we want him.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
To have to throw. So that is that Bobby Wagners
a mic? Or is that you? You actually?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Because he's a small, fast guy, you get a I
don't want my edges. Are you gonna spy him?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I don't need to spy him. I want him in
the pocket.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
But I mean, with all I said, I mean, I
feel you.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
But it seems from the film I'm watching, every team
has done that, and he still finds.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
A way to get it there.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
That's what we have to have.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
A guy like Wagner who played against him at the
Seahawks and a ram so at the end of the day,
this guy has more repetition with him and understand it.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Let's let's it's ways to get things done.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
But most of the time his plays that E'd have
made after the frame of the play call when the
play breaks down. So now we need to be ready
by that and be ready for that. And no, I
don't want one person tracking him. I want to hold
d line tracking him.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Short week, sure, short week, right, so you need that,
Bobby Wagner, Yeah, short week, your routine, guy, you you
a hamstring, get work, make sure you take care of
your body.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, I mean you know how we did.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
What happens, the guys will be already locked and lords,
I mean a guy that I use from you. I'll
tell you like, if I was playing right now today,
I'd have been done, had Mail already on his flight,
so by the time I touched back down. Because you
know you're playing Monday night and then you got to
go to right back to work on tuesdays. You ain't
you gotta you basically gotta have a walk through on Tuesday.
It ain't no getting no treatment. I have mail already
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at my house late Monday night.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Sure there's no off day. So you're saying, Tuesday is Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Tuesdays work Tuesdays the day that I'm finna get everything
that I normally get done on Mondays. I'm gonna get
it done on Tuesdays with knowing that I still got
to go out there and be productive in a little
walk through, because you got to get a walk through
and on Tuesday, because one is gonna take some of
that information out your body. And then along with that,
we got to go over stuff that we miss cued on,
you know what I mean, things that you didn't do well.
Coaches always want to get on the field and say,
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let's run through it. Let's walk through it so we
can see it again. So I have my guys lined up.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
I want.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I want to have from a physical standpoint, smooth in
the back end. Man short week.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Colin Murray, you got some corrections from from since the
Monday night game. Do you kind of that's kind of
glance over this corrections or we straight into Arizona?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Is what's the balance? You gotta correct? You gotta self
correct gotta self check. But you only have so much time.
We can't dwell on it.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
We gotta said we got it, Joe. What would be
the difference between the typical week and a short week.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
We're gonna get in here.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
We're gonna find out what we did wrong, because we're
probably gonna play these two quarterbacks different. One is a
pocket passer who's gonna be a surgeon in the pocket.
One is a jitterbug that's gonna try to get his
way outside of the play and make plays. So now
we'll let's just say we was a little bit more
man heavy going again, say two man heavy going against
Joe Burrow. Now we're gonna be a bit zoned heavy
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going against a running quarterback. So all he living is
watching him is he tried to make these plays. So
it's two different quarterbacks. We gotta play two different ways.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
But that's that's hard in the short week.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
It's been hard in the short week because they're telling
us we can't take a lot of what we did
it last week. We're gonna have to We're gonna have
to do We're gonna do more installing. Then we are
gonna actually practice.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Well, let me ask you this because a big thing
for me was we we had each week as a defense.
We had special game plans, like what you're talking aout,
We're gonna stop this sky.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
You can only put so much in because it's a
short week, right, is what you're saying. You're gonna keep
it simple.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I'm gonna keep it simple, and I'm gonna have a
couple of designs in. Think about it.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
If we're gonna play mostly zoned, so I'll be living
can watch where Kylin Murray is. So they're gonna mean
if we do blitz, it's gonna be zone blitzing, allright.
So this what we're gonna lean on. We're gonna lean
on everything looking like Cover two. Like we're gonna make
everything look like Cover two the whole week.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Which you still show him some of those formations where
he don't have a really spot to throw at and
still find a way to get somebody in there that
he didn't expect. Like you know what I mean, because
you know, normally if you say you're gonna zone blitz
that I'm I'm imagining you in some form of two and.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Saying, okay, I gotta three two.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
But I'm saying most of time I got that, you
want me you three give them a little bit more. Yeah,
I'm saying as a receiver, you give him three, he's
gonna find somebody real quick. He can get go out
in the backfield right now. And two, you got guy
in the flat, got got in the hose.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
You got guys deep.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So it's like who you sneak in in a cover
of two set and that you can get in his
getting his getting that mess.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
You guys might not sneaking my bluff.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I can say bluff, like if we're gonna fire zone
it let's just say we're gonna run some fire zones.
Usually in the fire zone we'll drop a defensive end
sometime and exchange him with speed. And when I say speed,
I'm talking about the nickel our linebacker. Well, this week
because of Kyler Murray jitterbugers, I don't want to put
that d line in in space with him. Yeah, So
(36:40):
I'm gonna keep it tight and make the zone blitz
and then five blitz happen with the bigs. So so
actually we're gonna do what we already do. We're just
gonna supplement and tell some people to do another job.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
So the team it's going out to Arizona, Uh, to
spend a week out there.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
I think you know one of the things that you
find outbout oh has.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
It been ause some teams are way go out to
the West coast two days before.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
We have no reason, We have no time to be
thinking about. If you know what I mean, you got
a job.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
We gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
You know now we know what the answer might be
for us. We might not like it, but I gotta
go play ball. I gotta play. I gotta make this
thing like home when I get there.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I would rather go to Arizona and Denver for the
week than pop up on Friday. I want to be
a jested I won't. I want everything to work, and
I don't care about being in it all work. No
plates on being on the road. But you mentioned Arizona
and Denver. I know that everybody know the altitude a Denver. Yeah,
(37:36):
while Arizona. While you're saying that, well, I know it's
an indoor game, but it's it's nothing like being in
Our environment is very high humidity, so it's moisture in
the era where we at. Well, when we go to Arizona,
it's no moisture in the air, but your body gonna
continue to try to pull that moisture out the air.
It is a difference in that environment, like we are
(37:57):
product in that environment and their environment is a dry environment.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Give me an example when you did that.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
We used to do it all the time when I
was in Seattle, because you know, we would fly playing
Miami and we'd have Tampa.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
And y'all were stay and we would stay either go
up to Carolina or something like that.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So for me, I think it was easier going to
the East Coast then going to the West coast.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yes, because the East coast teams are prone to have
how should I say, places with all seasons, and we're
very like vegetative. It's different like when you go out
there and it's dry, it's literally dry heat. Your body
takes some dry heat differently, and they got that advantage on.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Us with I would have thought that, I mean, the
reason why you would come to the East coast because
now you're waking up a much earlier than you yo.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Your biological class.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Coming from the East going to the West.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I was able to adapt them one night because I'm like,
you know, if I'm gonna wake up later, So me
I'm already up, you know what.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I mean, But I get nervous. I like to get
the game going.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, but I'm saying like, if you're coming from the
coming from the west, coming to the east, that's a
little that's a drastic turnel round for you guys, because y'all.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Used to you know what I mean, that.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Everything.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, so I would always thought that that would have
probably been one of the little handicaps for y'all.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
But I mean, teach his own, you know.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
Yeah, playing on the West coast is a whole different animal.
I think you're right for me being in Arizona, you know,
when we're going out there early, I think I don't
know people understand how hot is this, even though I
will say they're playing in the indoor, it.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Don't matter, but you get off their bus and walk
into that building. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Yeah, people, if you have to understand we are product
of the environment, then when we go to that.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
But I like sleep in my bed though too though
something torn, man, I mean, you.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Like you hate being in the hotels, man, know, I
understand ain't nothing like I mean I'm saying for you
might way sleep in it. I had a routine during
the week man, I like to do it to see
my family postopedic.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I hate that postaphede with the remote baby.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Well, hey, fellas, that's a route.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
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Speaker 3 (41:39):
How you doing, man doing well?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
How are you guys doing good?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Welcome back to the division. Oh right, this is the
division you was born in exactly, and now you're in
this division. How does it feel to look at it
from a different view because you was looking at it
from a Philadelphia view and now you're looking at it
from a Washington view.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
Yeah, I mean, I've loved my time here. Obviously this
division is the best division in football.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I agree, it's.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
It's not even close in my opinion, with the teams,
the history that all the all the teams have in
this division. So I'm happy to be back for sure,
And I've loved my time here so far. It's obviously
been a short amount of time, but I love the
d m V area, My family loves it, and so
it's been a lot of fun and a robbery.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Right, So obviously Philly you had a certain type robbery.
Now Washington we got a robbery with the team in
south and different type of robberies.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
What difference have you noticed, oh Man?
Speaker 8 (42:26):
I mean, we only had one divisional game so far,
and it was intense, and these the games did not
they were very different than when I was back in Philly.
They were intense that they're they're not always the prettiest
of games. And then you just got to find a
way to win. And if it takes seven field goals,
(42:47):
that's what it takes. It takes, and so we just
had to get.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
It done and we we got you to Washington. Obviously
we had a lot of respect for you. Come play
for coach Quinn. Yeah, what was the deciding factor to
get you here?
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Man?
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Oh Man?
Speaker 8 (43:02):
After last year in Arizona was extremely difficult physically, mentally, emotionally,
and I kind of just took the last half of
the season just to kind of take a reset and
get back to one hundred percent health and get back
to myself when I essentially trained for the past nine
months to do that, and I wanted the right opportunity.
I didn't want to just go somewhere that, hey, you're
(43:23):
going to just play a few plays be an insurance policy.
I wanted to go to a place that one believed
in me, and Cliff Kingsbury is one of those guys
that's always believed in me, even before I was in
Arizona and a team that was going to have a
lot of energy, played.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
The football the right way, practice the right way.
Speaker 8 (43:40):
And I had heard nothing but amazing things about coach
Quinn and he's far exceeded every expectation I had going
into this thing, just the way he demands of the player,
how much energy him and his staff bring. I can't
speak enough good things about my entire experience, from ownership
on down to the coaches to the support staff.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
It's been great. Speaking of years in the league, did
you think you would be the leading receiver in week two?
Speaker 4 (44:05):
You just said I won't it. I still want to
be featured that way. Did you think you'll still be
the leading receiver in week two? And then they catch
on this sideline, take us through their kitch. Is their
ball floated through the air, because at first when I
when I seen them let it go out, like oh,
there's like an easy play, But then I seen the
dB come up stretching the ball away from the dB
take us through their play.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
I mean, first, talking about my expectations, I think for me,
the way I approached the game, how hard I trained.
I feel like the last year and a half were
tough because I didn't get the chance to showcase what
I could do, and that wore on me a little
bit for sure. And I still fulfill myself as the
same player that I was here for the past ten years,
(44:46):
last year kind of being the anomaly. And then when
the ball went up last week in that game, like
you said, I kind of thought I was wide open.
At first, Yeah, I was like, oh, there's gonna be
catch and run. See what happens after the catch. And
then at the last second, I kind of felt the
guy on my back and kind of had the ball
essentially going to the ground, and I was just like, no,
this is gonna be mine. I got that new dad
strength it comes, and so yeah, it was. It was
(45:14):
awesome that Jaden gave me a chance and so I
was just able to make the play.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Thinking about that, So, coach, can Coach Kingsburg give you opportunity?
Rookie quarterback mans a lot of veteran guys, man, I
don't you know, I don't know if what I'm gonna
do with a rookie quarterback. What were your thoughts?
Speaker 8 (45:31):
Yeah, when I was just when I was thinking about
where I was going to be, one of the things
that I did ask was that what is the quarterback
situation there? Yeah, because last year in Arizona without Kyler,
it was extremely, extremely difficult to play with them, and
so I didn't want that opportunity. But then again, when
you draft the guys second overall, you expect he's going
to have something to and so Jaden has been phenomenal.
(45:55):
I think he's going to be one of the best
players in the league for a long time. And I
do not say that lightly, and it's.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Not really because that's a big statement.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
You play with quick.
Speaker 8 (46:06):
His physical traits are there, but it's as intangibles that
are going to be able to really separate him. He's
the first one in the building, the last one out.
He works his butt off. He's one of the guys.
He's not one of these quarterbacks that come in they
get draft the number two overall, or they have a heisman,
that think they're kind of they should be treated differently
than everyone else. He just wants to be one of
the guys. Guys kind of gravitate towards him, and he's
(46:28):
a phenomenal player. We got to get him to slide
maybe a little more.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
He got this drop, took and road did he do it?
Speaker 8 (46:36):
But overall, I mean, he's been so fun to play
with so far, and I think our chemistry has been
great and it's only going to get better the more
we play together, the more we see certain coverages together.
And so I've had a lot of fun so far.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
You three time Pro Bowl, Super Bowl champ, certified in
this league. I'm sure some of these young guys pict
your brain ext you questions. I'm sure you offered a
lot of questions. Could you give us some of the
knowledge that you've traded with some of these young guy
But we do have a very young rock.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (47:04):
I think part of the leadership status per se is
honestly just how you approach today. It's not like I'm
going to go in there and hold these rookies hands
and be like, you need to do X, Y and Z.
It's more that the way I feel like I approach
the game can rub off on everyone, the way.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
I practice, the way I studied film. I'm an open book.
Speaker 8 (47:27):
I've told the tight End since we first met in
April or May and or April when we first got
out here that hey, whatever you guys need, I'm here.
But I'm also not their coach. So if you have
a question, I'd be willing to answer it no matter
what on the field off the field. But I think
the thing that I think I want, the kind of
impact I want to have is the way I practice.
I love practicing. I think it's the most important thing.
(47:48):
I think it's at the forefront of how you play
the game. And so the way my practice habits, I
feel like, are things that I want people to resonate.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
I used to tell Smooth that all the time, team
exactly seriously, man, like you talk about practice and all that.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
I got energy. Man, I had twins, brother, you got
a lot of you got a lot of energy.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Congratulations by the way, twin boys, right, congratulations with that.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
Tell me what y'all is, how does it work? Because
I don't have a set of twins. Do you like,
hand your wife a baby, she hands you one back?
Because I can only think with twins, do you ever
get a break?
Speaker 8 (48:28):
Well, the mom is always the one that's better at comforting,
So the one that's crying always.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Don't just don't mess it up.
Speaker 5 (48:41):
The unique thing about twins, the great things about twins
is like, especially twin boys, they're gonna keep each other company.
And what you notice even as babies, like my boys
would just like lay on top of each other day, right,
So I didn't want one drinks the other one. They
were they're infraternal but they're very close and that one
is bigger than another one and takes the other one about.
But the cool thing about that experience, man, is uh
(49:04):
the bond that you see between two humans brothers. So
but that also means when one gets six, the other
one is gonna get sick, yeah, teething, Like.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
The process comes in tools. So I could just take
it as a parent, it had, you know, one child
at a time.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
I was like, this could be a little bit overwhelming,
especially during the season, like because I didn't get into
sleep when when I had that, and then I was like,
I'm coming to work. I still got to have this energy.
How do you manufacture doing your job at work and
doing your job at home that balance?
Speaker 8 (49:38):
Yeah, I think also a family a lot of help Grandma.
My wife is absolutely crushing it. We also have a
two year old boy, so we have we started with
the twins, and we have a lot of a lot
going on. We have three boys two and under. But
we also understand this is a season of our life.
Then it's a phenomenal season of life and we're so
(50:00):
has to be able to have three healthy little boys.
And I go home and sometimes it's that five o'clock
hour and it's just chaos when I get open the door.
But at the same time, my wife has done like
so so gone so far and beyond of what like
I knew of her before because she was like a
phenomenal athlete in her own right and now seeing.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Her in my Olympias, yeah, soccer player.
Speaker 8 (50:25):
So just to see her in this fashion of life
or this season of life for her has just been amazing.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
I got to actually do which one ways the most
in the household your super Bowl, ring, Olympics, which.
Speaker 8 (50:36):
One which one is that she doesn't have. She has
an Olympic bronze, but I don't care. It's Rose Golden
Nerds house. But she's got two World Cups.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
That's big time.
Speaker 8 (50:49):
So she's uh and she's the best player in the
world in my opinion for years, best of her position
for sure. And so we met in college. She didn't
know I played football. I didn't know she played soccer.
So he was built so far past. That's good, that's fun.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
But thanks man having a show. But we do have
a tradition here of the players club. We asked all
the players to sign the ball man which you signed
Jonathan Allen, he took he signed the ball.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
To big of course it would be John Allen Asperans Finals. Yeah, exactly.
Thanks brother.
Speaker 5 (51:29):
Well, it was great having you on the show, Man,
and good luck going forward with the season with all
the energy despite having three kids.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
I love that. And uh, congratulations man on everything.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Definitely home
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