January 23, 2025 • 58 mins
London Fletcher, Santana Moss, and Shawn Springs welcome in Fred Smoot to hand out Dubs of the Week after Washington’s win over Detroit. Then, the crew chops it up about some of their favorite memories from their days in the burgundy and gold. Then, the crew previews the NFC East matchup between the Commanders and Eagles in the NFC Championship. Plus, they catch up with tight end Zach Ertz.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
M h It's NFC Championship week and the Players Club
is getting you ready for Philly.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Plash were previewing the big NFC matchup against the.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Eagles, and we're sitting down with tight end zach Ertz.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
That's all in the Players Club. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Players Club is presented by Pepsi, the official soft drink
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Washington Commanders. Where our passion is your protection. Welcome into
another edition of the Players Club. We got Championship Weekend
edition of the Players Club. I'm London Fletcher as always,
(00:43):
Santana Moss, Shawn Springs aka Bluefoot, and we got Philly
man as as I mentioned, NFC Championship weekend. Our boys
going up to Philly hated. What weekend is this?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Can y'all feelas believe it?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Come on, let's take ourselves back to the beginning of
the season.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Knew everything.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
You're talking about, new front office, you're talking about new coach,
you're talking about new quarterback.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
You're talking about what sixty percent of the roster's.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Changed for free agent players did you think we would
get here at this time right now.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I had no clue.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
I had no expectations, and I had no clue what
this season was going to look like, you know, honestly,
and I think to say the least, I was going
to allow them to show me what they was going
to be made as far as coaching staff wise, what
are they going to be trying to implement when it
comes to the guys that they bring in the building.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And I just want to see good football? And that
was that's all I asked.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
For this season. Can I see good you know, or
competitive football?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
And they gave me that each and every week and
also gave me a lot of wins behind it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, I don't think we had a clue.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
But one thing I do remember at the start of
the season, me and London was on the field covering
the segment and we were talking about each position and
how that the detail they were on each position.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think they was working on breaking on.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
The ball history, the DB's and the corners working together,
and London was like, man, Blue is it feels different
like they actually are focusing on football. Then we was
looking at the bag drills. Then you start commenting on
the d lineman and stuff. And I was like, man,
I don't know how good were gonna be?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Good? We learning football out here?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, No, I was like you trying to people to
ask me, Hey, what's the team gonna be like this season?
I would say, I don't know how many wins and
losses we're gonna have. Yeah, but I will say they
would make us proud and they would be extremely competitive
in these games. And what what we didn't know and
we underestimate, I say we didn't know was the brotherhood.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That how that.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Quinn factor and how he was able to get those
guys to come together so quickly, and I mean it
resonated there. There was times where you can watch the
watch the team play and you can feel that connection.
You ain't have to be at the game, you don't
have to be you don't have to be in the building,
on the practice field, you can feel it like the connection.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And not all teams are like that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The teams that I've been on, the best teams that
I've been on, the team didn't us.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I'm gonna bring my ring out, you know, at home,
because see, we got the worst version of London, the
best version.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Of listen thinking of the best man. It's time to
go into the dubs of the week. All right, all right,
coming off that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Game against the Detroit lines, we had some guys who
went out there and just alled out. Tanner Lenna start
off with you, man, who you want to give you
a dub or dubbs too from that game?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Because well, I got one guy in mine. I've been
to put the chain.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
I talked, I talked while you put your chain on.
I can talk while you put your chain on. I
got one guy in mine. I've been riding this coat tail,
uh since we got into this postseason.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And it started in Temple.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
I spoke on you know, about this kid, just talking
about what I thought of him. And he went out
there in Tampa and then he showed up big and
then he then he doubled down and came to Detroit
and he played even bigger. And I got to say,
Diami Brown down town.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
You know.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
We end up had him on the Players Club like
a week ago, and I'm like, Diamy.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I called y'all, not in a bad way.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
I called y'all saying that I was I was pleased
to see your production this year. I was pleased to
see that he took what they gave him, a sample
size of what he had before, and made the best
with it. And I also told him, as a player,
I've been in those shoes where they take a little
off your plate. You now, I got a lot taken
off my plate when I was much older. He's a
younger guy who they I thought they tried to force feed.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Didn't know that he had to mature first.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
So I gotta I gotta say, you know, hats off
to Diami. I think he's gonna even play a more
introgral role coming up this week because now you know,
he's no longer one of those guys they're not looking for,
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
They they're not going to have.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Now he has the eye on him.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Now he's trying even rising even more.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
Butbelievable, catching that game on the corner man, that.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Was yeah, before we before I move on to smooth
on the US A week that atmosphere and man, it
was crazy.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
The hats off to whoever gave every fan that little
bracelet they had with the lighting on it, because at
one point I thought that they was doing something. But
then now you know me, I had to dive deep.
I'm like, what's going on. It's just like, I mean,
you saw the light, you know, flickering, and then I realized,
I'm like, oh, they just have a band on that
(05:47):
that someone is controlling it or it's just made to
do that.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
So man, I mean the atmosphere was electric.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
You know, kudos to Jello for coming in there and
ruining the parade.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
For him.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Like unlike most folks, I kind of dig the song,
but it wasn't It wasn't a timing for that.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They should have had Eminem.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
You should have had They should have lost themselves like
friends and they should have lost themself with that with Eminem.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But man, no, it was.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Think about this zero false star penalties, Wow, in that
loud environment environment.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, we had a legal formation, but we didn't have
a false start.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That was that in that environment. Yeah, it was ridiculous
at one point.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Because I'm up in the booth and I got the headphones.
Also I don't get the food.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, I took them headphones out. Definitely, my goodness.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
No, No, that's what a starving fan base feels like,
like they're going to keep it loud and make sure
this environment don't help you beat them.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
So I understand that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Smooth who gets your Dub of the week. The entire
defensive backfield. Let me take you through these stats.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Marshawn Lattimore zero yards receiving on his side, zero catches.
He go to Marshawn effect. Now let's push to other
corner Sarra. Still we know about his two interceptions. They
interception on their post route right there. That said to me,
as an X corner and our X Y receiver, you
played wide receiver before you ran that route for him.
(07:22):
Oh Jeremy chen my god, twelve tackers to pick the
close the game, Quad Martin to me, broke the game
open with that interception on the overthrowing cover two and
the run back right there.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And I love it when Frankie Louvu.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Makes listen receive it. That's what you do. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
So kudos to the entire defensive backfield for showing up
in the game that if they don't show up, we
don't win that game. Series like, they showed up. They
showed out and they played together.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And just to piggyback a little bit on you, you
actually I'm gonna give out two dubs of the week.
And Joe Whitt Jr. Defensive coordinator. I thought they had
an excellent game game plan against Jared Golf. Jared Golf
was the Lions. He's outstanding against man and man covered.
I mean his numbers against man covers was off the charge,
(08:18):
but not as good when with zone and hold on
to the football. He would have a Tennessee or there
would be opportunities to make some plays against.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
And coach Quinn and Joe Wick playing against Jared Golf
in their career and never lost against him.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And they against.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
Yeah, pretty pretty good coordinator Ben Johnson, who just got
to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I was standing.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But I thought, I thought the the game plan and
also the patience because there were times where even before
the interception that Kwan got right before the half, the
Lions were moving the ball and we played for some coordinators.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You started moving the ball on the they're gonna.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Die, they're gonna dollar.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The pressure.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
He kept playing soft calls on coverage stuff, playing the
coverage as they.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Got tied into the red zone.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Then he put a little more pressure that that quarters
coverage against quantity.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He intercept that was textbook. That's what you wanted.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
You got the low guy just high enough to make
him throw the ball over. You got the high guy
just tight enough to catch the ball. That's that's perfect,
pecially when you got a guy like Jameis Williams.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
This dude can flat out take the top off.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
All all every seriously, yeah, brown all of them. Then
my my, my other dub of the week. Man, he
gotta go there.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
What do you call him? Jedi five jaded Daniels.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Everything the Lions threw at him, he had, he had
they bring the bliss man.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Listen, I know where to go with the football.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I know if I'm protected, if I know I need
to get this hot route, or I know what I
got to take off the throat, the domed deep ball.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's one of the best plasses of the year.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Like well, he put the air on his ball, because
when he first let it go, I was like, where's.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
This ball going to?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
The free safety was going to pick yeah, because it
has so much air on it.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
But for him to know that, I gotta put this
air on his brow because get it, he threw the
ball before diomy came out of You got to the spot,
so unbelieveable.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Throw right there.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Like I said, this guy's wives be on his year.
That's why I called him a jedi.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
He's his point.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
When you have a crowd noise like that and you
don't get any like penalties against your offense.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's incredible. That's incredible. Blue Well, coach man.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
I like when y'all come to me and you know what,
I got my boy on this set with you know boys,
we like we like each other, you know what? In
great minds thinking like don't with smooth And we got
a new segment called Springs Island.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Out nobody travels to this island.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Let us pull up the highlights and show you why
it's called spring Islands because my double the week is
the secondary along with whre Fred was talking about. Yes, sir,
hey London, you talked about it. We need guys playmakers.
Now this was a game chiller and Quinn inverted covert two.
He's playing the mic position. Look at this guy. Come on,
you talking about Joe would making decisions. He put an
(11:20):
athletic safety at the position and robbed the middle.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
London.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, yeah, and that's the wherewithal of chin because he
opens up.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
To the right, flashes back. That's got the three wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Side right there. So now I'm gonna push from the
three wide receiver side. I'm gonna push to one receiver
side because I know it did.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Coming on there and checking any receiver would feel like, oh,
I'm gonna get this ball.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
This guy got his back turned to me, and guess what.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
He fooled him?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Now you see me, Now you don't.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
They tricked him a couple of times, tricked jerk off
a couple of times, and with the coverage next play.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Now, now here's what we're talking about. You're talking about
a guy who played corner but random route.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, you know, to start it off college as a
wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Look at him.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
He random route for the guy. Understand this leverage. Understand
that I need to start this outside in and play
it from the outside.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That it's just a great place. I mean, that's one thing.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
But you guys talking about somebody that just was poised
beyond his years.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
He's a rookie too.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
He's a guy that feel like this moment wasn't too
big for him. And guess what he was back in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Interview on the post game. No, we didn't get a
chance to nobody that boy was clean.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
This uh, this jacket on, I don't know if it
was chilla, whatever, I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Know what it was, you.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Know, I don't want Peter cop I don't know, I
don't know, but it was clear you.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Look good, you play good, and you feel this kid
made place.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Didn't even get food on the inn around trick play
Detroit all years.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
What about this one right here? We got that? Uh,
we got that Kawald Martin pick, I know we got
that one up.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Here, blew or not, That's the one to me that
broke this.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
This is when the game separates and says, all right,
this is Washington game to win.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Right here? Is he ed read not that right now?
I got the twenty on right now?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
For him to take that ball right there into the
end of the show, that's a great.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Great, great dropp though by no monogeny. Look how dep
gets Yes, that's what has to be thrown high yep.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
And and when you talk about a lot of times
dbs they catch the ball and fall down.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Now I'm trying to score it.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
And you talked about wearing that twenty, he did look
a little bit like every give a shout out, Give
a shout out to probably the best safety have played
in the NFL, Frankie Louis.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Oh my god, no, no, Frankie Louis received.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's what we right there, like, that's right there to me.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
That's why I said this was the player of the
game because not only was it a turnal pick six,
and it's like, okay, we're finna demolish y'all. Right, we're
feel physically impose our wheel against y'all because this is
your best player, Jerry Goff.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And we made him.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Here's another thing. I put this out on the broadcast,
changing up coverage. Only rush three guys dropped John Allen
into uh the whole and that allowed that allowed those
guys to drop a little bit as hook players. I mean,
that's why I said this was a masterful game plan
by the defense led.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
By Joe Joe Wood Jr.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
The game plan that they came up with, I mean,
it was the thing in beauty and as you mentioned,
that put us up ten and that that dome, that
point that they're like, oh man, these dudes, these dudes
for real, they do these dudes for.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Real, man, And that springs all babies. Fred, thank you.
You know I didn't even the pass board to get
on and on side.
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get into this, this whole thing that we've been hearing
from all the feelers that we've been having on this
show and talking about brotherhood. You know, we got a
chance to play play with each other from or at
least O seven to eight. I think Sean left us
(17:20):
an O nine. So you got here in O seven
and I was here.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Kicked him out of the brother Yeah, kicked him out
of the brotherhood.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
No, but just tell me.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
You know we experienced a playoff run, and I know
it was not on the level of what we see here.
Give me a little something about what you felt from
us as a team or as a brotherhood.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Did we have some of the things we see this team.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I say this with the and I would love to
hear y'all thoughts on this. That old seven deal was
a brotherhood because of circumstances, Sean passing away, Sean Turner
passing away. And I don't know how it was in
y'all meeting rooms, but in our our meeting roles is defense.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
You got Steve Jackson's safety coach giving a reporter he's crying, yeah,
doing the report. Like so, just the emotions, all that
was involved with it. Grown men just needing to lean
on each other in order to get through that time.
So that right there, that was a true brotherhood where
(18:22):
we had to come together to achieve what we achieved,
like if we didn't, if we went.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Our separate ways and tried to cope and deal.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And some of y'all were like, you had a coach
relationship with Sean, go back to college U and CPS,
Like y'all relationship I had only known Sean for just
those eight games, so there was levels to like how
guys were hurting and to try to do that by
themselves that would have been impossible for.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
The one of the things that I would say, you know,
speaking of different rooms, the offensive room was a little
I care less about whether they caught on or they
got on with the you know, plan of how we
were going to play. But mentally for me, I was
in a different area and time in my head, you
know what I mean. I was in a different space
or should I say, And it was one of feeling
(19:08):
like wow, you know, I was in disbelief because you
really just slapped in the face with just knowing that
you can't take life for granted. And then two here
I am not having the best season up to that point,
and I remember like, I'm sitting here pissed off about
the play selection.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
How the ball coming to me.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
But when we're dealing with together a death of a brother, abies,
you know what I mean. So I got on my
own behind and say, look, whatever you're dealing with, whatever
you're going through, it's not important, you know, get out
your own head. You know, had a little help with
Gary Clark. I remember when Gary Clark came to see us.
I told you all the story about that, but I
turned that was my turning point. That was my turning
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point to my season. And I hate to you know,
I guess you can say use that because of what
you know translated you know where to come to losing Sean,
But it helped me in so many different ways. It
helped me even moving on past that season and just
you know, dealing with some of the things that we
deal with as professional athletes and just with our time
with our family. So I can honestly say, man, with
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all that being said, we did come together differently. We
did bond, especially that day. Even though people get on
us about that first play when we played Buffalo, we
lost the game.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
We also lost the first player.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Of the game when they broke a long run when
we put team on the field. But still, if you
saw the impact of the stadium, how they got us
fired up, and how we played throughout that game, I
think that was the turning point for us as a game,
as a team of how we all tapped into each
other and use that for motivation.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Yeah, man, and for me that year too, it was
a brotherhood, cause I don't know if you guys remember
my dad went into a coma.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh yeah, you're right. So I was.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
Flying down the Dallas during the week and then coming
back on Friday and Jery Gray and having team meeting,
titting with everybody, and then I did that for about
four weeks and I just remember Sean telling me like, man,
I don't know how you do it, but that's just
goes to show you the brotherhood is like when that's
when you know, like you just wealth you guys saying
we just care for each other.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, you know, we.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
All understand that we're all human, we all have our
personal things that we're going through. And just seeing this team,
you know, and it's obviously it wasn't a circumstance like
a death that bought them together, you know, seeing the
passion that each guy comes in here was like, man,
I love day or what d Q was doing and
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or just you know the d line talking about the
secondary and how the guys are feeding off each other. Man,
that is that is amazing. And yeah, so I understand
the brotherhood.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
That was my next question, and you got a little
hit of me. But I was gonna ask you guys,
speaking of what we went through and then just watching
the experience this year from the seats that we in,
how much can you kind of say this is mostly
this is because they have a brother hood, or this
is because they're just well rounded, which one you can
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pull from and say it's the reason why we're here today.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Let me say something before London said, because it's something
interesting I heard this morning, was like, with's a brotherhood.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
But a guy was saying Dan Quinn is the leader.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Of men, right, And I was like, man, that's interesting
you said that because I think part of being a
leader of men recognizes that when you're leading these type
of men.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
They gotta trust you. You gotta trust him as it is
a brotherhood.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
So London, you know, when I heard that, I was
just like, Wow, he's not ask as an old coach.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
He's creating.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
He's the leader of men and back yeah, no, I
would say it's I would say it starts with this,
the brotherhood, the connectivity, because we've been on teams that
had a lot of talent, more talent and.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
That team didn't win because there was no connectivity.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And then I was I was just talking to my
high school football coach yesterday and we were talking about
how we're talking about the basketball team. My junior year,
we wanted to We won the championship, state championship. My
sophomore year, I was a backup most of it. It
was a senior laden team. So the next year we
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got a bunch of guys playing new roles, juniors and
sophomores and some other guys and to the team, and
we went eleven to nine in the regular season. A
ton of talent. Ended up having five guys to play
D one basketball. Wow, but our chemistry was awful.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It was awful. And I told I was sharing them
with that.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I was like, man, and I was actually talking about
the chemistry of this team in Washington and and our
lack of chemistry back in UH And that year we
went eleven or nine. But what happened in the regular season,
I mean the postseason, we finally guys accepted their role.
The chemistry got so much go at the door and
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we want to stay championship.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
We went on the seven zero run. We want to
state championship.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I've set some teams and it was it was a
situation where we finally got the chemistry together, where all right, man,
this show role.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Like I was a scoring point guard that wanted to score.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
No, they're saying that's not my role is Hey, I
might only take two or three shots in the game.
I gotta be okay, audition out, you know, six to
seven assists or eight assists, and and let the other guys,
you know, do their thing. And I got to be
accepted to play lockdown defense. So the thing that Dan
did coming in is he talked about if they got
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the brotherhood right first and foremost, they.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Can win a lot of games.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And that's why that's why we're seeing the fruits of
this label. They trust each other, They they they're connected
outside of the side of the football field, and it
shows on game down there.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I mean, you hit it then on I think too.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
One of the things I wanted to ask you, because
you've been a part of this joining before, You've been
all the way to the Promised Land and you know,
got out of there with a ring, what are some
of the things that a guy that's familiar with that
whole journey couldn't do to the guys who just out
here oblivious to it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Like, it's fun.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
To watch because you watching these guys, especially from a
rookie left tackle, a rookie quarterback, a rookie cornerback, and
you name it a bunch of other first time playing
together with teammates but now have played a whole season.
But it's like the fight is never too big, you
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know what I mean. It's like they're going into each
matchup almost it's like, y'all don't know what y'all got coming,
You know what I'm saying, What are some of the
things that a guy who's been there, what are some
of the things you think that's being kind of I
guess you can say trinkle down to the other guys
who hasn't had the experience for them to be ready
for the matchup.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
The thing that you have to do is you hope
you've had some coaches or some veteran players who've had
that experience when you go to them, Yeah, so you
got you got to Bobby Wagon and Zach Hurtz who
will have on the show later, and we got you know,
Wiley and Alligretted, those guys who've gone and won Super Bowl.
So you lean on them and say, hey, what's it
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like playing in big games? What's the postseason like? And
and what you what they tell them, Hey, the preparation
doesn't change. Yeah, the attention changes and then it increases,
but your preparation and your process doesn't change.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Actually, the thing that change you gotta get You got
to even be hunker down even more reduced to shrink
your your ability to compete, your circles, shrink that.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
But but it's hard because a little bit of change
with the media coming in that you well, I'm just
talking about it.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Even on the outside family friend, people don't want to
come to game. They're gonna want tickets, So you got
to keep them, keep yourself sheltered from all that, and
lock in even more so because that that preparation is
so key.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Those critical errors that.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Happened during the regular season game, yeah we got another game. No, no,
now it happened.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, that could be the difference between winning and loser.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
We saw that last week against Detroit. Right, it was
really a couple of plays here and there. You know,
you make a different decision, you know, kind of.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We were you and I want that on that twenty
twelve team and we had that seven.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Game win the streat.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, how did you feel with that that connection, all
that run.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Was it was it the brotherhood that got us to
that porter Was it like, hell, we gotta win when
somebody lose their job. That's a great question.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I can honestly say my room was locked in my
receiver room by that time. That's rg's rookie year, right,
rg's rookie year by that time, And it's probably a
year or two before then. I started doing a Thursday
night thing where we go eat as a core you know,
bond and then you know, we end up doing it
so much at Hooters to where Hooters say, hey, you know,
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if you pick up the tab, y'all come here every Thursday.
We want this thing to be you know, a special thing.
And now not only the receivers was there. We had
dB s trinkling in there. We had quarterbacks trickling there.
We had line and trinkling, and y'all did invite me.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Man, you know, I knew you.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Probably want to.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Just I'm just learned about it. He never mentioned. Honestly,
it was worried about.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
It was free to It was free for We worried
them out, but we feel even had to quick people
and the camera guys coming and big Micing was in there.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
But honestly, man, And I.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Think that's ups it is.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It is my bad bad to just do. I wouldn't go.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I knew it was Man. London was locked in, Man
London family.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Man, he was going home. Man know. But honestly, Man,
I really do believe that you can.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
You can look at a part of the brotherhood that
we was trying to build that that year, and it
was specially it was different because yes, r G brought
something a little different. He had a different he was
having a special, different flair about the way he communicated
with us, which was different from what we was used to,
meaning that he was younger, he did things he wanted
to have filmed here and there and do stuff differently.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
But I think too, we were just riding high, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
We was We was on a wave that I don't
feel like we could get off at that time, and
we rode it to the you know, to that wave died.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But uh, it was.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
It was unique, to say the least.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
But I don't I don't look at it nowhere near
what we're experiencing now from the seats that we've been
watching on this team, Like I can see a whole
totally different nucleus, you know, with these group of guys
than what we had. I think it was individual spots
here and there that kind of bonded and did their
own thing. But collectively, man, this.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
This crew here, they moving together on sound. Yeah, and
you know that's a good point.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
You're talking about rg And is a rookie, and we
got a rookie that man.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You know, like every.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Single guy, veteran guy we had Diami on. You know,
we didn't have zach on before. Who's coming on the
show today. Everybody says the same thing. Our leader is
so humble, he's the guy blah blah. So a lot
of it have to deal with that quarterback, man.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
And when it comes to just humility itself, Man, when
you lifting the other guys up, I'm gonna run through
a brick wall for you, you know what I mean. I'm
not gonna have a problem when you don't throw the
ball to me because I understand you understand that it's
gonna come around.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
And that's the difference too, that I see in just
watching them.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I'm sitting there some time watching the game and I'm
looking At times I kind of zone out, and I
know you know, the Feller's probably looking at me like,
you know, me be mentioning BC. Always together watching the game,
you know, after I appre my pregame show, and sometimes
I would be quiet because I'm just paying attention to
what's being displayed, and it's almost i mean, all watching it.
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I'm like, damn, like, do you not know what's going on?
Do you not ever know what's going on?
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Like?
Speaker 6 (30:52):
It's always an answer, and that's what he brings because
one he's taken.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
He don't take it for granted.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Two he's uber prepared like he's he's so prepared to
where look here, man, they're gonna have to do something
that they've never done before for me to be rattled.
And then three he allowed the guys to lead him.
He's leading them. But look, I'm gonna give you a
chance to go out here and make this look good
for me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And that's special to set the tone. It's time to
set the tone, and we're gonna set the tone.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
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this matchup against the Philadelphia Eagles, the third third time
we faced this team, the rubber match.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
This is the time they want the first match. We
want a second match.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
But this for all of them, this all this to
go to the big Dance. This is different. I think
we all hit like, let's bind you at the game
with no shirt on. I think about going with some
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hot black takes knuckles, take knuckles in the booth, be
doing a little bit.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Hey, band, wouldn't have a chance in to move man,
Like this is the intensity of this game.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Can you imagine playing a division rival for an opportunity
to go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 7 (32:21):
I'm crazy, crazy division rival that's hated. Yeah, two and
a half hours up the road, all right off for
ninety five. I hate and that building in that building.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
This reminds me of those years when the NFC was
like with Jared Rice as san fran and and EMMTT
Smith saying at at at Dallas with you know, with
your boy Irving and Dion left from one side came
to the other side like this is bring back those
memory as a kid watching them games.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
And then even Johnson almost all the.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Other stuff and then just thinking about you know, just
the matchups alone against Philly in Washington. You know what
I mean that stands out in Washington. You know, back
in them days, there was something something special. You know,
they they have the nod when it comes to seeing
their you know, division rivals in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
But no, it's I can't imagine it. Just to answer
your question.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
But at the same time, we're here, right, so just
like those guys that are locked in, we gotta lock in.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
We gotta underlock, we gotta understand. We ready for this
locking in so blue. I'm gonna start with you on
this one. Dealing with Quan how special? How do we
have the saqu this time around?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Well, that's the first game we I think we contained
him for the most part. He has some big run
Slaton in the fourth quarter up in Philly. Right the
second game here, he came out in the first half.
He was a gang buncher and he just was like,
wait a minute, And did y'all didn't get the memo? Like, right,
he's been killing the league. Not be a surprise, It
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cannot be a shock. The tricky part about it is
and Joe Witt give a shout out of coach Joe
where we just said the fabulous shop against Detroit and
had a super duper running back there the faced last week.
It has to be a conscious effort to like say,
you know what, we got to show him not only
different looks in the past game, we got to have
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some run blitz and some different runs touts to really
throw the Eagles off, because if you just line up,
the Eagles will moan you, right.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
So I think the second half adjustments that we had
here in Washington, because after the after the first half
of the first quarter and London, you both were at
the game. I don't know if he really got off
like that. Whatever. The adjustments we made up.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
About the big one of the big adjustments they made
they moved the run out the defensive end a defensive
tackle out there so we can set harder edges. So
that was a that was a major adjustment that we made.
We went end up having did we have three tackles
on the field one time? It was it was some
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justice that that made Yeah, And.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
I think this is what this is j As Jonathan
is what third game back, this would be his fourth
fourth game, So I think I think Jonathan getting this
this is this could be a game where.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
He played well against Detroit.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
He played well against Detroit, So I think this is
a game so it's gonna take the guys up front,
but we also know it's gonna take Kwan, It's gonna
take the safety chin Germany being down in the box.
You know, hey, listen, we know that we might have
to put eight in the box and commit to it,
and we're gonna have to hold up on the outside.
And our corners been doing it, so we're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
To hold up. But it's gotta be focused.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
I was gonna ask you that because if you watch
the game one when we was in Philly, Santaster had
to go out and against both of those guys, he
played them well in the red zone that he had
two deflections on one on Smith and one on Brown.
And coming into this game, I think everybody you watch
any sports outlet, when it's talking about this game, everybody's
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already basically saying it like, you gotta put it in
the box, you gotta put it in the box. With
that being said, do you think Philly not knowing they're
gonna put eight in the box. So my questions for
you and you but I'm more so for London with
that eight man in the box. If we do it,
are we bringing them late? Are we disguising to look
like something else? Are we bringing late blizzes?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
You know what I mean? Like I'm trying to ask you,
because it's not like a J.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Brown.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
The smith can't go out there, and.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
You always want to have a late rotation if you
want to show them, because you want to show them
the same kind of shell all the time and force
it forced them to figure it out postal fly posts now,
especially if you if it's a pass can pass, you
want Jaen Jalen Hurts to be figuring out the coverage
post say I got single high safety. Either it's covered
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three or man coverage, so I know where to go
with the football. But you show that that that two shell,
that that umbrella. It can be quarters, it can be
covered two, it can be covered six, it could be
covered three. We can rotate late one, robber, all these
different things that we can do showing the same look
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as opposed to if it's a single high safety. And
now you get you're giving you're giving him answers to
the test beforehand that's forced him to figure it out.
On the fly because you could always as long as
I know where my safety rotation is as a linebacker,
and I know, hey, if I got chin coming to
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my right side, I know I can start here showing
showing hard over here. But the snap, I'm flying to
my gap, flash to my gap, knowing that rotation is
coming late.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Let the talk about that. Put the fans out there.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
The difference between you can have eight in the box
and that can be a past defense versus an run
a run defense like like like blitz for example.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Get your thoughts on that in terms of rum blitz. Yeah,
like run.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Blitz like we we had times where we we blitzed
to stop the run eight.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So was the way a lot of the coordinators do
it and even back then, and it's still remains the
same now is you're looking at tendencies based on personnel
down the distance where they are on the field. So hey,
first and ten, they high probability run the ball. They
might be ninety run out of this personnel grouping. So
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we may call a run blitz and I'm bringing that
uh that blitzer, the extra man he's blitzing the gap.
Were bringing a five man pressure essentially to stop the run. Now,
if they happen to pass the football, they're gonna call
it a pass blitz. But no, it was designed to
stop the running. Like you can stut the front and
you're gonna start the front. You might you might have
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your defensive end go from a C gap to pinching
too the B gap.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Bring a linebacker for safety blitzing that gap. Things like that.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
You can have a weak side pressure, especially if their
weak side running team. So all those types of things
that happen throughout the course of a game. Because you've
died up and say, hey, this is a high probability
of a run. I'm a roll the dice. Not even
roll the dice. It's an educated guest. Bring pressure to
stop that run. Speaking of getting pressure, got to get
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pressure on Jalen Hurts Tada. As a Jalen guy, he's
dealing with a knee injury. Mobility might be an issue.
We don't know how much of an issue will be.
Can we get pressure on him?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, I mean that's a great question.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
And I think you know, for you guys, we've seen
all year loan where they bring in foul or you know,
have Loulu set up to be be a guy that's
gonna you know, I guess you can say penetrate the
office of line rather it's the interior or from the outside.
I think that's gonna be That's gonna be key to
see how we do. So what are we doing to
aggravate some of the things that that makes him comfortable?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
And I think you know, Jaalen hurts man, he's already.
One I don't want to do is get on here
and say what he can't do because he won a
lot of games, so obviously doing something good. But two,
I will point out that he does hold onto the
ball a lot, you know, and he rather holds on
to it, didn't give up that turnover, and he'll take
that sack.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
So that's my thing.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
My main thing is finding a way to get them
behind the change, you know what I mean, get them
in those you know unfavorable you know.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Down and third and.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Loans and you know second and loans, and then now
make them have to come out of their pocket with
something to kind of get us from doing.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
What we do special.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
What I want to see us do, and to be
honest with you is just you know, I'm not necessarily
so caught up on the whole stopping say quon, it's
no way to stop them.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
You know, let's be honest. You know, it wasn't even
a way for us to stop Gibbs.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Or how about just not say.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
No explosiven't have an explosive or two.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
It's just just just it's just it's just gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Not to say that he just supernatural. The officer line,
for one, is huge jugging uts.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
These guys are today they are unhuman almost you know
what I mean looking at these guys. But with that
being said, this is one of them, right are game?
This is one of the games.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
To my right.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
You hit him and they made out the gate. Trust me,
will make him think twice. You will make them think twice.
And we've seen our guys do that.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Hey man, we've played, uh play somebody in the playoffs.
I might have been saying, Louis baby here, but I
hit the receiver and I got a five. But I
was like, I al care to do that? You said
the tone. We had no poblems for the rest of
the game. I don't want our guys to go get.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
You gotta sit the tone right, But but I think
you might be on something with you know that when
you talk about Jaalen, how do we we we need
to get pressure, but you wanted something.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
But here hold the ball. So pass coverage and should
go hand in hand.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
I think at some point though, we also have to
play man and man, we're gonna have to deal with A. J.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Brown and Davonte Smith.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Is it a game where you continue to match up
Marshan against aj like they did? That's I thought play
an excellent game this past I thought he had a
c leg. So do we go with that same kind
of Hey, you you match up with him? Or do
you say, you know what, Mikey, you've proven that, Yeah,
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we could just stay right and left.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
Well, you know, I'm gona jump out that before you
because I know you have a great answer. If you
have to ask me as a receiver looking at what
Mikey has displayed, A J.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Brown is the A J. Brown?
Speaker 6 (42:45):
What I would say is that's gonna be that That's
gonna be the question. That's gonna be something that all
of us probably playing close attention.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
To to see.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Do we follow and still play a coverage game or
do we follow and say you got this man, we
gonna play cover over the top of six. We're gonna
We're gonna put a cloud over him because you know,
we don't want him to you know, get get get missing,
and because I feel like even though you get a
aj brown running phase and doing that, you can cover
him if you have a good guy, like a lot
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of more on him. Now, I don't want him to
get into that that handsy match matchup that they got
into last time. This is not the game for that.
So knowing that a lot of more is that kind
of player that he's not. He's not backing down from nothing.
He wanted all the smoke that I'm wondering how we
play that, How do we keep him on different sides?
Speaker 3 (43:30):
And do we say, hey, let this play? Because do
you think about it?
Speaker 6 (43:32):
The reason why I'm bringing that up When we didn't
have a lot of more the first time, like I said,
Santa still played him well, even even to five guys
in the game, STA playing well. No, I was about
to say Saint Juice's name. Santa still played them well
on that fade in the end zone. But Saint Juice
played them, played phenomenal game against You know what, I
mean being on him, let him catch this a little
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underneath catches, but making sure he attacked the ball and
attacked him.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
You know, at the catch. So you know, it's it's interesting,
I want to see it.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
But also, like I said, it's gonna be one of
the decisions that how we try to make it look
funky enough for Hurts to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
Oftentimes when you match up, there's there's a few times
where there's a discrepancy, like we have another one corner
number two me and smooth for example.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Who's a number one me by far?
Speaker 7 (44:16):
Or sometimes there's body there's body sizes, you know, a
bigger corner on a bigger receiver. The Brook has earned
the right to play on the left side and a
lot of more. He's earned the right starting with Tampa.
You know, he played very well in the Tampa game,
and he played extremely well in Detroit Kane where he
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had two picks. He's earned the right where they don't
have to match up, you know, So for me, with
the ability for them to stay on his side do
what they do. Each corner becomes comfortable on what they
see and the looks at you seeing the routs they're getting.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Man just just keep on the side, let him go. Man,
I am.
Speaker 7 (44:57):
I am more excited about the way all those guys
are playing in the back end. And you know we
said we we didn't expect it the way they look
now compared to week five, even week six, even moving
micros outside.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Man, it's been a tremendous suggestionment with the secondary. Man. Yeah, no,
as you guys were talking, I'm up here. I was
thinking of all kinds of scenarios.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Initially, I was thinking, hey, you match them up on
the feet out of the field, but.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
In the red zone, let them just let them play.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Then I got to thinking about what you said, Hey,
keep them, keep them right side, left side, But they
move A J. Brown around so much so then you'll
have him match up against Ignagni as a slot Nickel
as a slot.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Soon and he's played really good for real.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Well, you know, they may they may have a couple
of different plans and hey, we're gonna practice this, this
this because all these are scenarios that could happen in
that ball game. We'll have it where Saint Jush you
might have to the That's what That's what I feel like.
They'll probably do have multiple pack of things as they work,
just in case they need to go into one of
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those bags.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
And so to speak, it's time to talk about man.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Jayleen Carter real quick on oh man, man, just real
quick on him.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
But then I gotta go, we gotta go look at
our guy. Yeah, okay, let's get it.
Speaker 7 (46:17):
Jayleen Carter special, no cosby Jalen Carter is a disruptive
force in the league. And he is somebody you're gonna
have the double team. Would you say, put four hands
on four heads? And it's like and it's just it's
times where you know you're like, you ain't trying to
pump up the other team, but you got to show
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that man that respect.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
He earned that respect this year. You got to put
hands to him, four hands. Jayden Dam's man.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
The kids, you know it's to go ahead going to
this guy, Tada.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Will you watch him play? Man?
Speaker 7 (46:54):
It's about this third time this anybody shut up thinking
about it.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
This is the third time, the third time going to
against vig Fad Joe's defense.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
He's special, bro.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
He's been getting so much praise from the national TV
that I'm almost wanting to pump up breaks a little bit.
Not saying that I don't want to praise him just
because they don't say that so much. I don't want
to be sounding like a broken record. The guy is
just phenomenal, and I love that he's on our side.
I think we've been sitting here wishing upon the star,
actioning for the.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Football guards, and they looked down on us.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Man.
Speaker 6 (47:29):
They laid a hand on us. You know, you know,
they laid a hand on us man and gave us
a special talent.
Speaker 10 (47:33):
Man.
Speaker 7 (47:33):
So if I'm a receiver's perspective, doubt, like, what is
it that you like, like your face slide up?
Speaker 2 (47:39):
What is it that gets you like, I don't see
you that excited?
Speaker 6 (47:42):
Like, what is it what stands out won his his
his poise when you have a young guy that's I
mean bro.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Like I was talking to his mom the other day.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
We were sitting in the airport waiting on our flight,
and I was like, you know what I say, I asked,
I said what they be saying to him? Because I
see those guys, especially in Tempa. It was a guy too.
Every time he was backing up getting the team back
in the huddle. Before the guys got back to the huddle,
their defense will walk by him and say something to him,
and she said, they believe it or not Jane's or nothing.
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He's laughing at them and talking to them. He talks
so much smack. But she said, he don't talk to
smack to them directly. It's just when they go to
talking to him, he got something.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
To say back. And that's why he's laughing and having
a good enjoy and having.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
A good time.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
But he just he's just a kid man and joining
the kids game. And I love that about him.
Speaker 6 (48:28):
But I say, on just to add to that question,
not only his poise, it's the accuracy.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
For me, Bros.
Speaker 6 (48:36):
I've been in a situation where, look, no matter how
good of a receiver you are, you're not gonna always
be wide over and you're gonna have guys on you,
especially if the timing is off that you need to
make a tight one will throw or you need to
put it on the guy's chest. If you go look
at this guy, you just go put on a film
and say how many times did these guys have to
worry about stopping for the ball, reaching up high for
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the ball, getting their back blown out for the ball.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
You rarely see it. You don't probably see it at all.
Speaker 6 (49:05):
He's putting it right here, right here, right here, like
he's putting it into windows that you just like, Bro,
was unheard of.
Speaker 7 (49:12):
You know what's interesting about the short game. What's that
Aaron Glenn, who just give a shout out, just got
named the coach and had a phenomenal year with the
defense with all those guys banged up, he was staying
aggressive against Jayden. Jayden seemed like he was one step
ahead every time he blenched, I'm going to the ball
right here, And I just need to know, like why
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didn't show him something different?
Speaker 2 (49:38):
But you know, because he was, he was one step
ahead and his.
Speaker 6 (49:41):
Offense to his defense, and I feel you, but I
can say he did show him a lot different you
think about it, because at one point he didn't want
to rush him. One point he was like, I'm going
with Foe. Now, now you throw the ball, who's open?
And he saw it ain't working. Now I'm gonna go
with a guy, lady, And then it was working so
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and then and now you got to throw some flowers
to Cliff, because I feel like Cliff gave you know,
the team, the offense, Jaden the essence, Like, hey, bro,
if you see this.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
Look you know we're going here. And it was just
perfect time and every time.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
The best one that I saw, the best example the
slip scream the slips Terry to Terry. Yeah, and you
can see it's coming down.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah yeah, play.
Speaker 6 (50:27):
I can get this this, I can get this to
echoler or I could just he didn't even give a
chance to make it.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
He's just like give it to him right now.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Let they was there were light out there and he
saw he saw the rotation late. He's getting this snapped
as the rotation of coming. They held the disguise, but
for him to be at a process to that quick
get it and throw it out there and from there
Terry Terry was the right what do you do this?
Speaker 11 (50:53):
Man?
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Speaker 2 (52:15):
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Speaker 2 (52:34):
Looking back four months ago, Man to now.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Could you imagine in your wildest dreams that this team
would be getting ready to play in the NFC Championship Game?
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (52:43):
Man, what ale question? I mean, obviously I was hopeful,
right right right? Did I think that we would be
sitting here necessarily when I signed? I don't know if
I hadn't necessarily had that optimism. You know, when I
signed here, we didn't have a quarterback at the time.
I was kind of the first free agent to sign.
Since I didn't finish last year and just everything that
happened last year, I didn't really know what to expect.
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I wanted to come to a place I really believed
in me again and people that believed in me again,
and Cliff has been has believed in me as much
as any coach I've ever been around in the league.
And so I just really wanted to get back to
having fun. And this season has exceeded all my expectations
on and off the field. The commitment to the players,
the investment in the players, and just decused constant energy
and how he pushes us has been phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (53:26):
Speaking of that whole I guess you can say that
that journey of saying hey, I just want to go
somewhere where I'm wanting where I can, you know, get
back to doing what I love to do.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
What was that process like, because, like.
Speaker 6 (53:37):
You just mentioned, didn't have a quarterback, didn't know where
we was at. What a you know, as a team,
was you focused more so on just playing football or
said I want to go to a team that really
had a chance to do something.
Speaker 11 (53:48):
No, it was really getting back to just being around
people that believed in you. Again, you know, I'm sure
you guys can speak on it as well. I feel
like I'm at my best when I feel like people
truly believe in me and are confident in me to
go play at a high level. In last year in Arizona,
I don't know if that that was necessarily the case
for a lot of different factors. And when Cliff got
the job here, you know, I told my agent, I
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said pretty much I wanted to get this done, and
I didn't know what the quarterback situation was. I didn't
know who we were going to draft at number two,
but I knew with Cliff that we were going to
have a chance to put up points on offense. And
obviously now in hindsight, phenomenal decision. Yeah, but it's been
so much fun and Jaden has been so good. He's
exceeded everyone's expectation. I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Thanks thanks for having legend like you catching the you
know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (54:38):
Earlier year we had you talked about getting your body
back getting ready for a season.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Man, you're looking good, brother. What you've been doing?
Speaker 7 (54:47):
What what has been a process over the over this
year because you obviously have went on her journey before like.
Speaker 11 (54:54):
This, Yep, yeah, I think so what you doing? I
think d Q really in the off season laid out
of playing for me. You know, typically in the past,
I'm a big believer in just getting as many reps
during the week and practice to be ready on Sundays.
And it was at time. It's probably a negative just
in terms of beating your body down during the season
and not being at your best or your most explosive
(55:14):
on game day. In DQ, after two weeks of OTAs,
he said, Hey, just so you know, you're not practicing
on Wednesdays this year and the season comes around.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Like you don't have a saying it.
Speaker 11 (55:22):
I know you're gonna want to practice if something goes
better on a losing streak, you going want to be
out there with the guys, But I'm telling you right now,
you're not practicing on Wednesdays.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
I love that and just to have that that.
Speaker 11 (55:32):
Confidence in me and me not to have to like
prove myself on Wednesdays over and over because it's hard
at first. It was hard at first, Like I see
the guys go out there and practice and I'm in there.
You guys know how it is. On during the season,
you really only get one lift. But with this schedule,
I'm really able to get two big lifts Monday and Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
So I feel like.
Speaker 11 (55:49):
I've been able to stay at my best throughout the
season because I really am getting two opportunities to get
better in the weight room.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Getting you're on back to Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
It all started for you, Bet your first eight seasons
there in your career. What is what do you think
is that moment's gonna be like as you get set
to take that field at the league playing in your
former team for the NFC Championship game, and.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
It's gonna be special.
Speaker 11 (56:13):
Obviously, I'm glad that I already got the emotional the
first time out of the way earlier in the season,
because there was a lot of emotions that were going
through me in that first one. But the city environment
is going to be amazing. It's gonna be one of
the best environments that anyone's played in. Last week in
Detroit was special, but this is gonna be another level
for the guys, and I'm excited to be a part
of it. And it's going to take our best to
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beat these guys in that stadium. They're they're extremely uh,
they're extremely good. They got extremely good record, So we're
gonna have to be at our best on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (56:43):
Speaking of being at your best, and you know how
the environment is going to be for the guys that's
been there, that's you know you, Bobby, all those guys,
what are some of the things you're telling these other guys,
because it almost looked like y'all y'all so prepared, so
locked in, they don't even care about it.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
They just you know, you, like a weal or machine.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (57:01):
I think it's a testament to the guys that they
brought in. Really everyone just really sticks to the process
during the week and doesn't make it any different than
how their process was week one, week two, So they
don't need to change their their process to be to
take it up a level because they're exhausting already been there. Yeah,
they're exhausting the weekly goals, they're exhausting their weekly process.
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And so for me, whenever I'm able to check all
the boxes of being at my best for a Sunday,
it doesn't change come NFC Championship playoff game, super Bowl.
I'm doing the same thing every week so that when
Sunday comes, I'm able to play free and hopefully get
open a lot and catch a lot of footballs and
win the game.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Sound just keep getting open, Yeah, we look forward to
see you get open on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
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Speaker 1 (57:45):
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Speaker 2 (57:50):
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Speaker 1 (57:51):
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Speaker 2 (57:55):
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man as as I mentioned, NFC Championship weekend. Our boys
going up to Philly hated. What weekend is this?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Can y'all feelas believe it?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Come on, let's take ourselves back to the beginning of
the season.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Knew everything.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
You're talking about, new front office, you're talking about new coach,
you're talking about new quarterback.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
You're talking about what sixty percent of the roster's.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Changed for free agent players did you think we would
get here at this time right now.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I had no clue.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
I had no expectations, and I had no clue what
this season was going to look like, you know, honestly,
and I think to say the least, I was going
to allow them to show me what they was going
to be made as far as coaching staff wise, what
are they going to be trying to implement when it
comes to the guys that they bring in the building.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And I just want to see good football? And that
was that's all I asked.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
For this season. Can I see good you know, or
competitive football?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
And they gave me that each and every week and
also gave me a lot of wins behind it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, I don't think we had a clue.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
But one thing I do remember at the start of
the season, me and London was on the field covering
the segment and we were talking about each position and
how that the detail they were on each position.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think they was working on breaking on.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
The ball history, the DB's and the corners working together,
and London was like, man, Blue is it feels different
like they actually are focusing on football. Then we was
looking at the bag drills. Then you start commenting on
the d lineman and stuff. And I was like, man,
I don't know how good were gonna be?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Good? We learning football out here?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, No, I was like you trying to people to
ask me, Hey, what's the team gonna be like this season?
I would say, I don't know how many wins and
losses we're gonna have. Yeah, but I will say they
would make us proud and they would be extremely competitive
in these games. And what what we didn't know and
we underestimate, I say we didn't know was the brotherhood.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That how that.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Quinn factor and how he was able to get those
guys to come together so quickly, and I mean it
resonated there. There was times where you can watch the
watch the team play and you can feel that connection.
You ain't have to be at the game, you don't
have to be you don't have to be in the building,
on the practice field, you can feel it like the connection.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And not all teams are like that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The teams that I've been on, the best teams that
I've been on, the team didn't us.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I'm gonna bring my ring out, you know, at home,
because see, we got the worst version of London, the
best version.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Of listen thinking of the best man. It's time to
go into the dubs of the week. All right, all right,
coming off that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Game against the Detroit lines, we had some guys who
went out there and just alled out. Tanner Lenna start
off with you, man, who you want to give you
a dub or dubbs too from that game?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Because well, I got one guy in mine. I've been
to put the chain.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
I talked, I talked while you put your chain on.
I can talk while you put your chain on. I
got one guy in mine. I've been riding this coat tail,
uh since we got into this postseason.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And it started in Temple.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
I spoke on you know, about this kid, just talking
about what I thought of him. And he went out
there in Tampa and then he showed up big and
then he then he doubled down and came to Detroit
and he played even bigger. And I got to say,
Diami Brown down town.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
You know.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
We end up had him on the Players Club like
a week ago, and I'm like, Diamy.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I called y'all, not in a bad way.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
I called y'all saying that I was I was pleased
to see your production this year. I was pleased to
see that he took what they gave him, a sample
size of what he had before, and made the best
with it. And I also told him, as a player,
I've been in those shoes where they take a little
off your plate. You now, I got a lot taken
off my plate when I was much older. He's a
younger guy who they I thought they tried to force feed.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Didn't know that he had to mature first.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
So I gotta I gotta say, you know, hats off
to Diami. I think he's gonna even play a more
introgral role coming up this week because now you know,
he's no longer one of those guys they're not looking for,
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
They they're not going to have.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Now he has the eye on him.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Now he's trying even rising even more.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
Butbelievable, catching that game on the corner man, that.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Was yeah, before we before I move on to smooth
on the US A week that atmosphere and man, it
was crazy.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
The hats off to whoever gave every fan that little
bracelet they had with the lighting on it, because at
one point I thought that they was doing something. But
then now you know me, I had to dive deep.
I'm like, what's going on. It's just like, I mean,
you saw the light, you know, flickering, and then I realized,
I'm like, oh, they just have a band on that
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that someone is controlling it or it's just made to
do that.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
So man, I mean the atmosphere was electric.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
You know, kudos to Jello for coming in there and
ruining the parade.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
For him.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Like unlike most folks, I kind of dig the song,
but it wasn't It wasn't a timing for that.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They should have had Eminem.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
You should have had They should have lost themselves like
friends and they should have lost themself with that with Eminem.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But man, no, it was.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Think about this zero false star penalties, Wow, in that
loud environment environment.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, we had a legal formation, but we didn't have
a false start.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That was that in that environment. Yeah, it was ridiculous
at one point.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Because I'm up in the booth and I got the headphones.
Also I don't get the food.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, I took them headphones out. Definitely, my goodness.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
No, No, that's what a starving fan base feels like,
like they're going to keep it loud and make sure
this environment don't help you beat them.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
So I understand that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Smooth who gets your Dub of the week. The entire
defensive backfield. Let me take you through these stats.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Marshawn Lattimore zero yards receiving on his side, zero catches.
He go to Marshawn effect. Now let's push to other
corner Sarra. Still we know about his two interceptions. They
interception on their post route right there. That said to me,
as an X corner and our X Y receiver, you
played wide receiver before you ran that route for him.
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Oh Jeremy chen my god, twelve tackers to pick the
close the game, Quad Martin to me, broke the game
open with that interception on the overthrowing cover two and
the run back right there.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And I love it when Frankie Louvu.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Makes listen receive it. That's what you do. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
So kudos to the entire defensive backfield for showing up
in the game that if they don't show up, we
don't win that game. Series like, they showed up. They
showed out and they played together.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And just to piggyback a little bit on you, you
actually I'm gonna give out two dubs of the week.
And Joe Whitt Jr. Defensive coordinator. I thought they had
an excellent game game plan against Jared Golf. Jared Golf
was the Lions. He's outstanding against man and man covered.
I mean his numbers against man covers was off the charge,
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but not as good when with zone and hold on
to the football. He would have a Tennessee or there
would be opportunities to make some plays against.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
And coach Quinn and Joe Wick playing against Jared Golf
in their career and never lost against him.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And they against.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
Yeah, pretty pretty good coordinator Ben Johnson, who just got
to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I was standing.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But I thought, I thought the the game plan and
also the patience because there were times where even before
the interception that Kwan got right before the half, the
Lions were moving the ball and we played for some coordinators.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You started moving the ball on the they're gonna.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Die, they're gonna dollar.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The pressure.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
He kept playing soft calls on coverage stuff, playing the
coverage as they.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Got tied into the red zone.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Then he put a little more pressure that that quarters
coverage against quantity.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He intercept that was textbook. That's what you wanted.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
You got the low guy just high enough to make
him throw the ball over. You got the high guy
just tight enough to catch the ball. That's that's perfect,
pecially when you got a guy like Jameis Williams.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
This dude can flat out take the top off.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
All all every seriously, yeah, brown all of them. Then
my my, my other dub of the week. Man, he
gotta go there.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
What do you call him? Jedi five jaded Daniels.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Everything the Lions threw at him, he had, he had
they bring the bliss man.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Listen, I know where to go with the football.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I know if I'm protected, if I know I need
to get this hot route, or I know what I
got to take off the throat, the domed deep ball.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's one of the best plasses of the year.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Like well, he put the air on his ball, because
when he first let it go, I was like, where's.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
This ball going to?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
The free safety was going to pick yeah, because it
has so much air on it.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
But for him to know that, I gotta put this
air on his brow because get it, he threw the
ball before diomy came out of You got to the spot,
so unbelieveable.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Throw right there.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Like I said, this guy's wives be on his year.
That's why I called him a jedi.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
He's his point.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
When you have a crowd noise like that and you
don't get any like penalties against your offense.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's incredible. That's incredible. Blue Well, coach man.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
I like when y'all come to me and you know what,
I got my boy on this set with you know boys,
we like we like each other, you know what? In
great minds thinking like don't with smooth And we got
a new segment called Springs Island.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Out nobody travels to this island.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Let us pull up the highlights and show you why
it's called spring Islands because my double the week is
the secondary along with whre Fred was talking about. Yes, sir,
hey London, you talked about it. We need guys playmakers.
Now this was a game chiller and Quinn inverted covert two.
He's playing the mic position. Look at this guy. Come on,
you talking about Joe would making decisions. He put an
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athletic safety at the position and robbed the middle.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
London.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, yeah, and that's the wherewithal of chin because he
opens up.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
To the right, flashes back. That's got the three wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Side right there. So now I'm gonna push from the
three wide receiver side. I'm gonna push to one receiver
side because I know it did.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Coming on there and checking any receiver would feel like, oh,
I'm gonna get this ball.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
This guy got his back turned to me, and guess what.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
He fooled him?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Now you see me, Now you don't.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
They tricked him a couple of times, tricked jerk off
a couple of times, and with the coverage next play.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Now, now here's what we're talking about. You're talking about
a guy who played corner but random route.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, you know, to start it off college as a
wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Look at him.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
He random route for the guy. Understand this leverage. Understand
that I need to start this outside in and play
it from the outside.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That it's just a great place. I mean, that's one thing.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
But you guys talking about somebody that just was poised
beyond his years.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
He's a rookie too.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
He's a guy that feel like this moment wasn't too
big for him. And guess what he was back in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Interview on the post game. No, we didn't get a
chance to nobody that boy was clean.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
This uh, this jacket on, I don't know if it
was chilla, whatever, I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Know what it was, you.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Know, I don't want Peter cop I don't know, I
don't know, but it was clear you.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Look good, you play good, and you feel this kid
made place.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Didn't even get food on the inn around trick play
Detroit all years.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
What about this one right here? We got that? Uh,
we got that Kawald Martin pick, I know we got
that one up.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Here, blew or not, That's the one to me that
broke this.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
This is when the game separates and says, all right,
this is Washington game to win.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Right here? Is he ed read not that right now?
I got the twenty on right now?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
For him to take that ball right there into the
end of the show, that's a great.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Great, great dropp though by no monogeny. Look how dep
gets Yes, that's what has to be thrown high yep.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
And and when you talk about a lot of times
dbs they catch the ball and fall down.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Now I'm trying to score it.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
And you talked about wearing that twenty, he did look
a little bit like every give a shout out, Give
a shout out to probably the best safety have played
in the NFL, Frankie Louis.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Oh my god, no, no, Frankie Louis received.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's what we right there, like, that's right there to me.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
That's why I said this was the player of the
game because not only was it a turnal pick six,
and it's like, okay, we're finna demolish y'all. Right, we're
feel physically impose our wheel against y'all because this is
your best player, Jerry Goff.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And we made him.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Here's another thing. I put this out on the broadcast,
changing up coverage. Only rush three guys dropped John Allen
into uh the whole and that allowed that allowed those
guys to drop a little bit as hook players. I mean,
that's why I said this was a masterful game plan
by the defense led.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
By Joe Joe Wood Jr.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
The game plan that they came up with, I mean,
it was the thing in beauty and as you mentioned,
that put us up ten and that that dome, that
point that they're like, oh man, these dudes, these dudes
for real, they do these dudes for.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Real, man, And that springs all babies. Fred, thank you.
You know I didn't even the pass board to get
on and on side.
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Speaker 6 (16:43):
All right, fellas, you know this is my This is
my favorite segment of the show.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
Now.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I hate starting off that way all the time. You know,
I'm rubbing it into you guys. Drive time, and of
course it's gonna be my favorite right now. But drive time, baby,
it's time to take a ride with you.
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Speaker 6 (16:59):
It's time for dry Time, presented by Easton Automotive Group.
Any car anyway for everyone since nineteen eighty eight. Let's
get into this, this whole thing that we've been hearing
from all the feelers that we've been having on this
show and talking about brotherhood. You know, we got a
chance to play play with each other from or at
least O seven to eight. I think Sean left us
(17:20):
an O nine. So you got here in O seven
and I was here.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Kicked him out of the brother Yeah, kicked him out
of the brotherhood.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
No, but just tell me.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
You know we experienced a playoff run, and I know
it was not on the level of what we see here.
Give me a little something about what you felt from
us as a team or as a brotherhood.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Did we have some of the things we see this team.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I say this with the and I would love to
hear y'all thoughts on this. That old seven deal was
a brotherhood because of circumstances, Sean passing away, Sean Turner
passing away. And I don't know how it was in
y'all meeting rooms, but in our our meeting roles is defense.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
You got Steve Jackson's safety coach giving a reporter he's crying, yeah,
doing the report. Like so, just the emotions, all that
was involved with it. Grown men just needing to lean
on each other in order to get through that time.
So that right there, that was a true brotherhood where
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we had to come together to achieve what we achieved,
like if we didn't, if we went.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Our separate ways and tried to cope and deal.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And some of y'all were like, you had a coach
relationship with Sean, go back to college U and CPS,
Like y'all relationship I had only known Sean for just
those eight games, so there was levels to like how
guys were hurting and to try to do that by
themselves that would have been impossible for.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
The one of the things that I would say, you know,
speaking of different rooms, the offensive room was a little
I care less about whether they caught on or they
got on with the you know, plan of how we
were going to play. But mentally for me, I was
in a different area and time in my head, you
know what I mean. I was in a different space
or should I say, And it was one of feeling
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like wow, you know, I was in disbelief because you
really just slapped in the face with just knowing that
you can't take life for granted. And then two here
I am not having the best season up to that point,
and I remember like, I'm sitting here pissed off about
the play selection.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
How the ball coming to me.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
But when we're dealing with together a death of a brother, abies,
you know what I mean. So I got on my
own behind and say, look, whatever you're dealing with, whatever
you're going through, it's not important, you know, get out
your own head. You know, had a little help with
Gary Clark. I remember when Gary Clark came to see us.
I told you all the story about that, but I
turned that was my turning point. That was my turning
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point to my season. And I hate to you know,
I guess you can say use that because of what
you know translated you know where to come to losing Sean,
But it helped me in so many different ways. It
helped me even moving on past that season and just
you know, dealing with some of the things that we
deal with as professional athletes and just with our time
with our family. So I can honestly say, man, with
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all that being said, we did come together differently. We
did bond, especially that day. Even though people get on
us about that first play when we played Buffalo, we
lost the game.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
We also lost the first player.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Of the game when they broke a long run when
we put team on the field. But still, if you
saw the impact of the stadium, how they got us
fired up, and how we played throughout that game, I
think that was the turning point for us as a game,
as a team of how we all tapped into each
other and use that for motivation.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Yeah, man, and for me that year too, it was
a brotherhood, cause I don't know if you guys remember
my dad went into a coma.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh yeah, you're right. So I was.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
Flying down the Dallas during the week and then coming
back on Friday and Jery Gray and having team meeting,
titting with everybody, and then I did that for about
four weeks and I just remember Sean telling me like, man,
I don't know how you do it, but that's just
goes to show you the brotherhood is like when that's
when you know, like you just wealth you guys saying
we just care for each other.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, you know, we.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
All understand that we're all human, we all have our
personal things that we're going through. And just seeing this team,
you know, and it's obviously it wasn't a circumstance like
a death that bought them together, you know, seeing the
passion that each guy comes in here was like, man,
I love day or what d Q was doing and
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or just you know the d line talking about the
secondary and how the guys are feeding off each other. Man,
that is that is amazing. And yeah, so I understand
the brotherhood.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
That was my next question, and you got a little
hit of me. But I was gonna ask you guys,
speaking of what we went through and then just watching
the experience this year from the seats that we in,
how much can you kind of say this is mostly
this is because they have a brother hood, or this
is because they're just well rounded, which one you can
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pull from and say it's the reason why we're here today.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Let me say something before London said, because it's something
interesting I heard this morning, was like, with's a brotherhood.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
But a guy was saying Dan Quinn is the leader.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Of men, right, And I was like, man, that's interesting
you said that because I think part of being a
leader of men recognizes that when you're leading these type
of men.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
They gotta trust you. You gotta trust him as it is
a brotherhood.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
So London, you know, when I heard that, I was
just like, Wow, he's not ask as an old coach.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
He's creating.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
He's the leader of men and back yeah, no, I
would say it's I would say it starts with this,
the brotherhood, the connectivity, because we've been on teams that
had a lot of talent, more talent and.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
That team didn't win because there was no connectivity.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And then I was I was just talking to my
high school football coach yesterday and we were talking about
how we're talking about the basketball team. My junior year,
we wanted to We won the championship, state championship. My
sophomore year, I was a backup most of it. It
was a senior laden team. So the next year we
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got a bunch of guys playing new roles, juniors and
sophomores and some other guys and to the team, and
we went eleven to nine in the regular season. A
ton of talent. Ended up having five guys to play
D one basketball. Wow, but our chemistry was awful.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It was awful. And I told I was sharing them
with that.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I was like, man, and I was actually talking about
the chemistry of this team in Washington and and our
lack of chemistry back in UH And that year we
went eleven or nine. But what happened in the regular season,
I mean the postseason, we finally guys accepted their role.
The chemistry got so much go at the door and
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we want to stay championship.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
We went on the seven zero run. We want to
state championship.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I've set some teams and it was it was a
situation where we finally got the chemistry together, where all right, man,
this show role.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Like I was a scoring point guard that wanted to score.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
No, they're saying that's not my role is Hey, I
might only take two or three shots in the game.
I gotta be okay, audition out, you know, six to
seven assists or eight assists, and and let the other guys,
you know, do their thing. And I got to be
accepted to play lockdown defense. So the thing that Dan
did coming in is he talked about if they got
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the brotherhood right first and foremost, they.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Can win a lot of games.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And that's why that's why we're seeing the fruits of
this label. They trust each other, They they they're connected
outside of the side of the football field, and it
shows on game down there.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I mean, you hit it then on I think too.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
One of the things I wanted to ask you, because
you've been a part of this joining before, You've been
all the way to the Promised Land and you know,
got out of there with a ring, what are some
of the things that a guy that's familiar with that
whole journey couldn't do to the guys who just out
here oblivious to it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Like, it's fun.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
To watch because you watching these guys, especially from a
rookie left tackle, a rookie quarterback, a rookie cornerback, and
you name it a bunch of other first time playing
together with teammates but now have played a whole season.
But it's like the fight is never too big, you
(25:33):
know what I mean. It's like they're going into each
matchup almost it's like, y'all don't know what y'all got coming,
You know what I'm saying, What are some of the
things that a guy who's been there, what are some
of the things you think that's being kind of I
guess you can say trinkle down to the other guys
who hasn't had the experience for them to be ready
for the matchup.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
The thing that you have to do is you hope
you've had some coaches or some veteran players who've had
that experience when you go to them, Yeah, so you
got you got to Bobby Wagon and Zach Hurtz who
will have on the show later, and we got you know,
Wiley and Alligretted, those guys who've gone and won Super Bowl.
So you lean on them and say, hey, what's it
(26:12):
like playing in big games? What's the postseason like? And
and what you what they tell them, Hey, the preparation
doesn't change. Yeah, the attention changes and then it increases,
but your preparation and your process doesn't change.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Actually, the thing that change you gotta get You got
to even be hunker down even more reduced to shrink
your your ability to compete, your circles, shrink that.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
But but it's hard because a little bit of change
with the media coming in that you well, I'm just
talking about it.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Even on the outside family friend, people don't want to
come to game. They're gonna want tickets, So you got
to keep them, keep yourself sheltered from all that, and
lock in even more so because that that preparation is
so key.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Those critical errors that.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Happened during the regular season game, yeah we got another game. No, no,
now it happened.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, that could be the difference between winning and loser.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
We saw that last week against Detroit. Right, it was
really a couple of plays here and there. You know,
you make a different decision, you know, kind of.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We were you and I want that on that twenty
twelve team and we had that seven.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Game win the streat.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, how did you feel with that that connection, all
that run.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Was it was it the brotherhood that got us to
that porter Was it like, hell, we gotta win when
somebody lose their job. That's a great question.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I can honestly say my room was locked in my
receiver room by that time. That's rg's rookie year, right,
rg's rookie year by that time, And it's probably a
year or two before then. I started doing a Thursday
night thing where we go eat as a core you know,
bond and then you know, we end up doing it
so much at Hooters to where Hooters say, hey, you know,
(27:54):
if you pick up the tab, y'all come here every Thursday.
We want this thing to be you know, a special thing.
And now not only the receivers was there. We had
dB s trinkling in there. We had quarterbacks trickling there.
We had line and trinkling, and y'all did invite me.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Man, you know, I knew you.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Probably want to.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Just I'm just learned about it. He never mentioned. Honestly,
it was worried about.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
It was free to It was free for We worried
them out, but we feel even had to quick people
and the camera guys coming and big Micing was in there.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
But honestly, man, And I.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Think that's ups it is.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It is my bad bad to just do. I wouldn't go.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I knew it was Man. London was locked in, Man
London family.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Man, he was going home. Man know. But honestly, Man,
I really do believe that you can.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
You can look at a part of the brotherhood that
we was trying to build that that year, and it
was specially it was different because yes, r G brought
something a little different. He had a different he was
having a special, different flair about the way he communicated
with us, which was different from what we was used to,
meaning that he was younger, he did things he wanted
to have filmed here and there and do stuff differently.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
But I think too, we were just riding high, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
We was We was on a wave that I don't
feel like we could get off at that time, and
we rode it to the you know, to that wave died.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But uh, it was.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
It was unique, to say the least.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
But I don't I don't look at it nowhere near
what we're experiencing now from the seats that we've been
watching on this team, Like I can see a whole
totally different nucleus, you know, with these group of guys
than what we had. I think it was individual spots
here and there that kind of bonded and did their
own thing. But collectively, man, this.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
This crew here, they moving together on sound. Yeah, and
you know that's a good point.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
You're talking about rg And is a rookie, and we
got a rookie that man.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You know, like every.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Single guy, veteran guy we had Diami on. You know,
we didn't have zach on before. Who's coming on the
show today. Everybody says the same thing. Our leader is
so humble, he's the guy blah blah. So a lot
of it have to deal with that quarterback, man.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
And when it comes to just humility itself, Man, when
you lifting the other guys up, I'm gonna run through
a brick wall for you, you know what I mean. I'm
not gonna have a problem when you don't throw the
ball to me because I understand you understand that it's
gonna come around.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
And that's the difference too, that I see in just
watching them.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I'm sitting there some time watching the game and I'm
looking At times I kind of zone out, and I
know you know, the Feller's probably looking at me like,
you know, me be mentioning BC. Always together watching the game,
you know, after I appre my pregame show, and sometimes
I would be quiet because I'm just paying attention to
what's being displayed, and it's almost i mean, all watching it.
(30:46):
I'm like, damn, like, do you not know what's going on?
Do you not ever know what's going on?
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Like?
Speaker 6 (30:52):
It's always an answer, and that's what he brings because
one he's taken.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
He don't take it for granted.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Two he's uber prepared like he's he's so prepared to
where look here, man, they're gonna have to do something
that they've never done before for me to be rattled.
And then three he allowed the guys to lead him.
He's leading them. But look, I'm gonna give you a
chance to go out here and make this look good
for me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And that's special to set the tone. It's time to
set the tone, and we're gonna set the tone.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
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Speaker 2 (31:39):
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Speaker 1 (31:42):
But this for all of them, this all this to
go to the big Dance. This is different. I think
we all hit like, let's bind you at the game
with no shirt on. I think about going with some
(32:03):
hot black takes knuckles, take knuckles in the booth, be
doing a little bit.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Hey, band, wouldn't have a chance in to move man,
Like this is the intensity of this game.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Can you imagine playing a division rival for an opportunity
to go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 7 (32:21):
I'm crazy, crazy division rival that's hated. Yeah, two and
a half hours up the road, all right off for
ninety five. I hate and that building in that building.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
This reminds me of those years when the NFC was
like with Jared Rice as san fran and and EMMTT
Smith saying at at at Dallas with you know, with
your boy Irving and Dion left from one side came
to the other side like this is bring back those
memory as a kid watching them games.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
And then even Johnson almost all the.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Other stuff and then just thinking about you know, just
the matchups alone against Philly in Washington. You know what
I mean that stands out in Washington. You know, back
in them days, there was something something special. You know,
they they have the nod when it comes to seeing
their you know, division rivals in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
But no, it's I can't imagine it. Just to answer
your question.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
But at the same time, we're here, right, so just
like those guys that are locked in, we gotta lock in.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
We gotta underlock, we gotta understand. We ready for this
locking in so blue. I'm gonna start with you on
this one. Dealing with Quan how special? How do we
have the saqu this time around?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Well, that's the first game we I think we contained
him for the most part. He has some big run
Slaton in the fourth quarter up in Philly. Right the
second game here, he came out in the first half.
He was a gang buncher and he just was like,
wait a minute, And did y'all didn't get the memo? Like, right,
he's been killing the league. Not be a surprise, It
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cannot be a shock. The tricky part about it is
and Joe Witt give a shout out of coach Joe
where we just said the fabulous shop against Detroit and
had a super duper running back there the faced last week.
It has to be a conscious effort to like say,
you know what, we got to show him not only
different looks in the past game, we got to have
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some run blitz and some different runs touts to really
throw the Eagles off, because if you just line up,
the Eagles will moan you, right.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
So I think the second half adjustments that we had
here in Washington, because after the after the first half
of the first quarter and London, you both were at
the game. I don't know if he really got off
like that. Whatever. The adjustments we made up.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
About the big one of the big adjustments they made
they moved the run out the defensive end a defensive
tackle out there so we can set harder edges. So
that was a that was a major adjustment that we made.
We went end up having did we have three tackles
on the field one time? It was it was some
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justice that that made Yeah, And.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
I think this is what this is j As Jonathan
is what third game back, this would be his fourth
fourth game, So I think I think Jonathan getting this
this is this could be a game where.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
He played well against Detroit.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
He played well against Detroit, So I think this is
a game so it's gonna take the guys up front,
but we also know it's gonna take Kwan, It's gonna
take the safety chin Germany being down in the box.
You know, hey, listen, we know that we might have
to put eight in the box and commit to it,
and we're gonna have to hold up on the outside.
And our corners been doing it, so we're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
To hold up. But it's gotta be focused.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
I was gonna ask you that because if you watch
the game one when we was in Philly, Santaster had
to go out and against both of those guys, he
played them well in the red zone that he had
two deflections on one on Smith and one on Brown.
And coming into this game, I think everybody you watch
any sports outlet, when it's talking about this game, everybody's
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already basically saying it like, you gotta put it in
the box, you gotta put it in the box. With
that being said, do you think Philly not knowing they're
gonna put eight in the box. So my questions for
you and you but I'm more so for London with
that eight man in the box. If we do it,
are we bringing them late? Are we disguising to look
like something else? Are we bringing late blizzes?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
You know what I mean? Like I'm trying to ask you,
because it's not like a J.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Brown.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
The smith can't go out there, and.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
You always want to have a late rotation if you
want to show them, because you want to show them
the same kind of shell all the time and force
it forced them to figure it out postal fly posts now,
especially if you if it's a pass can pass, you
want Jaen Jalen Hurts to be figuring out the coverage
post say I got single high safety. Either it's covered
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three or man coverage, so I know where to go
with the football. But you show that that that two shell,
that that umbrella. It can be quarters, it can be
covered two, it can be covered six, it could be
covered three. We can rotate late one, robber, all these
different things that we can do showing the same look
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as opposed to if it's a single high safety. And
now you get you're giving you're giving him answers to
the test beforehand that's forced him to figure it out.
On the fly because you could always as long as
I know where my safety rotation is as a linebacker,
and I know, hey, if I got chin coming to
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my right side, I know I can start here showing
showing hard over here. But the snap, I'm flying to
my gap, flash to my gap, knowing that rotation is
coming late.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Let the talk about that. Put the fans out there.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
The difference between you can have eight in the box
and that can be a past defense versus an run
a run defense like like like blitz for example.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Get your thoughts on that in terms of rum blitz. Yeah,
like run.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Blitz like we we had times where we we blitzed
to stop the run eight.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So was the way a lot of the coordinators do
it and even back then, and it's still remains the
same now is you're looking at tendencies based on personnel
down the distance where they are on the field. So hey,
first and ten, they high probability run the ball. They
might be ninety run out of this personnel grouping. So
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we may call a run blitz and I'm bringing that
uh that blitzer, the extra man he's blitzing the gap.
Were bringing a five man pressure essentially to stop the run. Now,
if they happen to pass the football, they're gonna call
it a pass blitz. But no, it was designed to
stop the running. Like you can stut the front and
you're gonna start the front. You might you might have
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your defensive end go from a C gap to pinching
too the B gap.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Bring a linebacker for safety blitzing that gap. Things like that.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
You can have a weak side pressure, especially if their
weak side running team. So all those types of things
that happen throughout the course of a game. Because you've
died up and say, hey, this is a high probability
of a run. I'm a roll the dice. Not even
roll the dice. It's an educated guest. Bring pressure to
stop that run. Speaking of getting pressure, got to get
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pressure on Jalen Hurts Tada. As a Jalen guy, he's
dealing with a knee injury. Mobility might be an issue.
We don't know how much of an issue will be.
Can we get pressure on him?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, I mean that's a great question.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
And I think you know, for you guys, we've seen
all year loan where they bring in foul or you know,
have Loulu set up to be be a guy that's
gonna you know, I guess you can say penetrate the
office of line rather it's the interior or from the outside.
I think that's gonna be That's gonna be key to
see how we do. So what are we doing to
aggravate some of the things that that makes him comfortable?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
And I think you know, Jaalen hurts man, he's already.
One I don't want to do is get on here
and say what he can't do because he won a
lot of games, so obviously doing something good. But two,
I will point out that he does hold onto the
ball a lot, you know, and he rather holds on
to it, didn't give up that turnover, and he'll take
that sack.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
So that's my thing.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
My main thing is finding a way to get them
behind the change, you know what I mean, get them
in those you know unfavorable you know.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Down and third and.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Loans and you know second and loans, and then now
make them have to come out of their pocket with
something to kind of get us from doing.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
What we do special.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
What I want to see us do, and to be
honest with you is just you know, I'm not necessarily
so caught up on the whole stopping say quon, it's
no way to stop them.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
You know, let's be honest. You know, it wasn't even
a way for us to stop Gibbs.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Or how about just not say.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
No explosiven't have an explosive or two.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
It's just just just it's just it's just gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Not to say that he just supernatural. The officer line,
for one, is huge jugging uts.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
These guys are today they are unhuman almost you know
what I mean looking at these guys. But with that
being said, this is one of them, right are game?
This is one of the games.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
To my right.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
You hit him and they made out the gate. Trust me,
will make him think twice. You will make them think twice.
And we've seen our guys do that.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Hey man, we've played, uh play somebody in the playoffs.
I might have been saying, Louis baby here, but I
hit the receiver and I got a five. But I
was like, I al care to do that? You said
the tone. We had no poblems for the rest of
the game. I don't want our guys to go get.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
You gotta sit the tone right, But but I think
you might be on something with you know that when
you talk about Jaalen, how do we we we need
to get pressure, but you wanted something.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
But here hold the ball. So pass coverage and should
go hand in hand.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
I think at some point though, we also have to
play man and man, we're gonna have to deal with A. J.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Brown and Davonte Smith.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Is it a game where you continue to match up
Marshan against aj like they did? That's I thought play
an excellent game this past I thought he had a
c leg. So do we go with that same kind
of Hey, you you match up with him? Or do
you say, you know what, Mikey, you've proven that, Yeah,
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we could just stay right and left.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
Well, you know, I'm gona jump out that before you
because I know you have a great answer. If you
have to ask me as a receiver looking at what
Mikey has displayed, A J.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Brown is the A J. Brown?
Speaker 6 (42:45):
What I would say is that's gonna be that That's
gonna be the question. That's gonna be something that all
of us probably playing close attention.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
To to see.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Do we follow and still play a coverage game or
do we follow and say you got this man, we
gonna play cover over the top of six. We're gonna
We're gonna put a cloud over him because you know,
we don't want him to you know, get get get missing,
and because I feel like even though you get a
aj brown running phase and doing that, you can cover
him if you have a good guy, like a lot
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of more on him. Now, I don't want him to
get into that that handsy match matchup that they got
into last time. This is not the game for that.
So knowing that a lot of more is that kind
of player that he's not. He's not backing down from nothing.
He wanted all the smoke that I'm wondering how we
play that, How do we keep him on different sides?
Speaker 3 (43:30):
And do we say, hey, let this play? Because do
you think about it?
Speaker 6 (43:32):
The reason why I'm bringing that up When we didn't
have a lot of more the first time, like I said,
Santa still played him well, even even to five guys
in the game, STA playing well. No, I was about
to say Saint Juice's name. Santa still played them well
on that fade in the end zone. But Saint Juice
played them, played phenomenal game against You know what, I
mean being on him, let him catch this a little
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underneath catches, but making sure he attacked the ball and
attacked him.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
You know, at the catch. So you know, it's it's interesting,
I want to see it.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
But also, like I said, it's gonna be one of
the decisions that how we try to make it look
funky enough for Hurts to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
Oftentimes when you match up, there's there's a few times
where there's a discrepancy, like we have another one corner
number two me and smooth for example.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Who's a number one me by far?
Speaker 7 (44:16):
Or sometimes there's body there's body sizes, you know, a
bigger corner on a bigger receiver. The Brook has earned
the right to play on the left side and a
lot of more. He's earned the right starting with Tampa.
You know, he played very well in the Tampa game,
and he played extremely well in Detroit Kane where he
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had two picks. He's earned the right where they don't
have to match up, you know, So for me, with
the ability for them to stay on his side do
what they do. Each corner becomes comfortable on what they
see and the looks at you seeing the routs they're getting.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Man just just keep on the side, let him go. Man,
I am.
Speaker 7 (44:57):
I am more excited about the way all those guys
are playing in the back end. And you know we
said we we didn't expect it the way they look
now compared to week five, even week six, even moving
micros outside.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Man, it's been a tremendous suggestionment with the secondary. Man. Yeah, no,
as you guys were talking, I'm up here. I was
thinking of all kinds of scenarios.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Initially, I was thinking, hey, you match them up on
the feet out of the field, but.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
In the red zone, let them just let them play.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Then I got to thinking about what you said, Hey,
keep them, keep them right side, left side, But they
move A J. Brown around so much so then you'll
have him match up against Ignagni as a slot Nickel
as a slot.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Soon and he's played really good for real.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Well, you know, they may they may have a couple
of different plans and hey, we're gonna practice this, this
this because all these are scenarios that could happen in
that ball game. We'll have it where Saint Jush you
might have to the That's what That's what I feel like.
They'll probably do have multiple pack of things as they work,
just in case they need to go into one of
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those bags.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
And so to speak, it's time to talk about man.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Jayleen Carter real quick on oh man, man, just real
quick on him.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
But then I gotta go, we gotta go look at
our guy. Yeah, okay, let's get it.
Speaker 7 (46:17):
Jayleen Carter special, no cosby Jalen Carter is a disruptive
force in the league. And he is somebody you're gonna
have the double team. Would you say, put four hands
on four heads? And it's like and it's just it's
times where you know you're like, you ain't trying to
pump up the other team, but you got to show
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that man that respect.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
He earned that respect this year. You got to put
hands to him, four hands. Jayden Dam's man.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
The kids, you know it's to go ahead going to
this guy, Tada.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Will you watch him play? Man?
Speaker 7 (46:54):
It's about this third time this anybody shut up thinking
about it.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
This is the third time, the third time going to
against vig Fad Joe's defense.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
He's special, bro.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
He's been getting so much praise from the national TV
that I'm almost wanting to pump up breaks a little bit.
Not saying that I don't want to praise him just
because they don't say that so much. I don't want
to be sounding like a broken record. The guy is
just phenomenal, and I love that he's on our side.
I think we've been sitting here wishing upon the star,
actioning for the.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Football guards, and they looked down on us.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Man.
Speaker 6 (47:29):
They laid a hand on us. You know, you know,
they laid a hand on us man and gave us
a special talent.
Speaker 10 (47:33):
Man.
Speaker 7 (47:33):
So if I'm a receiver's perspective, doubt, like, what is
it that you like, like your face slide up?
Speaker 2 (47:39):
What is it that gets you like, I don't see
you that excited?
Speaker 6 (47:42):
Like, what is it what stands out won his his
his poise when you have a young guy that's I
mean bro.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Like I was talking to his mom the other day.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
We were sitting in the airport waiting on our flight,
and I was like, you know what I say, I asked,
I said what they be saying to him? Because I
see those guys, especially in Tempa. It was a guy too.
Every time he was backing up getting the team back
in the huddle. Before the guys got back to the huddle,
their defense will walk by him and say something to him,
and she said, they believe it or not Jane's or nothing.
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He's laughing at them and talking to them. He talks
so much smack. But she said, he don't talk to
smack to them directly. It's just when they go to
talking to him, he got something.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
To say back. And that's why he's laughing and having
a good enjoy and having.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
A good time.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
But he just he's just a kid man and joining
the kids game. And I love that about him.
Speaker 6 (48:28):
But I say, on just to add to that question,
not only his poise, it's the accuracy.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
For me, Bros.
Speaker 6 (48:36):
I've been in a situation where, look, no matter how
good of a receiver you are, you're not gonna always
be wide over and you're gonna have guys on you,
especially if the timing is off that you need to
make a tight one will throw or you need to
put it on the guy's chest. If you go look
at this guy, you just go put on a film
and say how many times did these guys have to
worry about stopping for the ball, reaching up high for
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the ball, getting their back blown out for the ball.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
You rarely see it. You don't probably see it at all.
Speaker 6 (49:05):
He's putting it right here, right here, right here, like
he's putting it into windows that you just like, Bro,
was unheard of.
Speaker 7 (49:12):
You know what's interesting about the short game. What's that
Aaron Glenn, who just give a shout out, just got
named the coach and had a phenomenal year with the
defense with all those guys banged up, he was staying
aggressive against Jayden. Jayden seemed like he was one step
ahead every time he blenched, I'm going to the ball
right here, And I just need to know, like why
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didn't show him something different?
Speaker 2 (49:38):
But you know, because he was, he was one step
ahead and his.
Speaker 6 (49:41):
Offense to his defense, and I feel you, but I
can say he did show him a lot different you
think about it, because at one point he didn't want
to rush him. One point he was like, I'm going
with Foe. Now, now you throw the ball, who's open?
And he saw it ain't working. Now I'm gonna go
with a guy, lady, And then it was working so
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and then and now you got to throw some flowers
to Cliff, because I feel like Cliff gave you know,
the team, the offense, Jaden the essence, Like, hey, bro,
if you see this.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
Look you know we're going here. And it was just
perfect time and every time.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
The best one that I saw, the best example the
slip scream the slips Terry to Terry. Yeah, and you
can see it's coming down.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah yeah, play.
Speaker 6 (50:27):
I can get this this, I can get this to
echoler or I could just he didn't even give a
chance to make it.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
He's just like give it to him right now.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Let they was there were light out there and he
saw he saw the rotation late. He's getting this snapped
as the rotation of coming. They held the disguise, but
for him to be at a process to that quick
get it and throw it out there and from there
Terry Terry was the right what do you do this?
Speaker 11 (50:53):
Man?
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Speaker 2 (52:34):
Looking back four months ago, Man to now.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Could you imagine in your wildest dreams that this team
would be getting ready to play in the NFC Championship Game?
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (52:43):
Man, what ale question? I mean, obviously I was hopeful,
right right right? Did I think that we would be
sitting here necessarily when I signed? I don't know if
I hadn't necessarily had that optimism. You know, when I
signed here, we didn't have a quarterback at the time.
I was kind of the first free agent to sign.
Since I didn't finish last year and just everything that
happened last year, I didn't really know what to expect.
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I wanted to come to a place I really believed
in me again and people that believed in me again,
and Cliff has been has believed in me as much
as any coach I've ever been around in the league.
And so I just really wanted to get back to
having fun. And this season has exceeded all my expectations
on and off the field. The commitment to the players,
the investment in the players, and just decused constant energy
and how he pushes us has been phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (53:26):
Speaking of that whole I guess you can say that
that journey of saying hey, I just want to go
somewhere where I'm wanting where I can, you know, get
back to doing what I love to do.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
What was that process like, because, like.
Speaker 6 (53:37):
You just mentioned, didn't have a quarterback, didn't know where
we was at. What a you know, as a team,
was you focused more so on just playing football or
said I want to go to a team that really
had a chance to do something.
Speaker 11 (53:48):
No, it was really getting back to just being around
people that believed in you. Again, you know, I'm sure
you guys can speak on it as well. I feel
like I'm at my best when I feel like people
truly believe in me and are confident in me to
go play at a high level. In last year in Arizona,
I don't know if that that was necessarily the case
for a lot of different factors. And when Cliff got
the job here, you know, I told my agent, I
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said pretty much I wanted to get this done, and
I didn't know what the quarterback situation was. I didn't
know who we were going to draft at number two,
but I knew with Cliff that we were going to
have a chance to put up points on offense. And
obviously now in hindsight, phenomenal decision. Yeah, but it's been
so much fun and Jaden has been so good. He's
exceeded everyone's expectation. I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Thanks thanks for having legend like you catching the you
know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (54:38):
Earlier year we had you talked about getting your body
back getting ready for a season.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Man, you're looking good, brother. What you've been doing?
Speaker 7 (54:47):
What what has been a process over the over this
year because you obviously have went on her journey before like.
Speaker 11 (54:54):
This, Yep, yeah, I think so what you doing? I
think d Q really in the off season laid out
of playing for me. You know, typically in the past,
I'm a big believer in just getting as many reps
during the week and practice to be ready on Sundays.
And it was at time. It's probably a negative just
in terms of beating your body down during the season
and not being at your best or your most explosive
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on game day. In DQ, after two weeks of OTAs,
he said, Hey, just so you know, you're not practicing
on Wednesdays this year and the season comes around.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Like you don't have a saying it.
Speaker 11 (55:22):
I know you're gonna want to practice if something goes
better on a losing streak, you going want to be
out there with the guys, But I'm telling you right now,
you're not practicing on Wednesdays.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
I love that and just to have that that.
Speaker 11 (55:32):
Confidence in me and me not to have to like
prove myself on Wednesdays over and over because it's hard
at first. It was hard at first, Like I see
the guys go out there and practice and I'm in there.
You guys know how it is. On during the season,
you really only get one lift. But with this schedule,
I'm really able to get two big lifts Monday and Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
So I feel like.
Speaker 11 (55:49):
I've been able to stay at my best throughout the
season because I really am getting two opportunities to get
better in the weight room.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Getting you're on back to Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
It all started for you, Bet your first eight seasons
there in your career. What is what do you think
is that moment's gonna be like as you get set
to take that field at the league playing in your
former team for the NFC Championship game, and.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
It's gonna be special.
Speaker 11 (56:13):
Obviously, I'm glad that I already got the emotional the
first time out of the way earlier in the season,
because there was a lot of emotions that were going
through me in that first one. But the city environment
is going to be amazing. It's gonna be one of
the best environments that anyone's played in. Last week in
Detroit was special, but this is gonna be another level
for the guys, and I'm excited to be a part
of it. And it's going to take our best to
(56:35):
beat these guys in that stadium. They're they're extremely uh,
they're extremely good. They got extremely good record, So we're
gonna have to be at our best on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (56:43):
Speaking of being at your best, and you know how
the environment is going to be for the guys that's
been there, that's you know you, Bobby, all those guys,
what are some of the things you're telling these other guys,
because it almost looked like y'all y'all so prepared, so
locked in, they don't even care about it.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
They just you know, you, like a weal or machine.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (57:01):
I think it's a testament to the guys that they
brought in. Really everyone just really sticks to the process
during the week and doesn't make it any different than
how their process was week one, week two, So they
don't need to change their their process to be to
take it up a level because they're exhausting already been there. Yeah,
they're exhausting the weekly goals, they're exhausting their weekly process.
(57:22):
And so for me, whenever I'm able to check all
the boxes of being at my best for a Sunday,
it doesn't change come NFC Championship playoff game, super Bowl.
I'm doing the same thing every week so that when
Sunday comes, I'm able to play free and hopefully get
open a lot and catch a lot of footballs and
win the game.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Sound just keep getting open, Yeah, we look forward to
see you get open on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
That'll do it.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
From the Players Club, we appreciate you joining us at Hey,
I'm gonna predict again.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
Next time we.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Come to you, it will be the same time next
week We'll be getting ready for the.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Super Bowl in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
See next week, same time when the Players plays hut
to Sean and I have plenty more in store for you.
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