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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back into the players club. We are your hosts.
I'd loved to Fletcher.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We got my man Shot Springs as you mentioned aka.
Also we got sat Tanna Moss aka.
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Cow Boy Killer n a ka Shot.
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We're coming to you live from the James Joyce and
Madrid shot in sat Tanna, I need you all to
let the folks know what we got up for him
with this episode of Man.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This is gonna be an amazing episode.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We looking back at the season and trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
What we can do to get back on track and
the second half.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
And we also got my partner at crime I should
say uh. One of my co hosts from the Command
Center Party and Command Center, Logan Paulson, joined the show today.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
And while we were in Madrid, we were able to
catch up a Hall of Famer Brian Mitchell outside the
real Madrid practice facility.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
All right, now, already, Fellas, it's time to get this
show started.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Get him.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Let's go, Fellas, let's start. We're gonna welcome in to
the show a member of the radio broadcast crew with
myself and Brown Wintstoyle. We got he's also a command
in the podcast host as a Satanna mentioned film guru,
this guy, Logan Pulsing. Nobody watches more film than this game.
Nobody even I don't think players who currently play watching.
(01:29):
I mean, you watch a lot of films not too flutch, yeah,
but not as much as.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Love and Welcome to the Players Club.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Man, Thanks, man, appreciate you guys having me on.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
All right, So this is gonna be this kind of
the bye week edition of the Players Club. Obviously, we
still got a game coming up against the Miami Dolphins
this Sunday, but we're gonna record the show for the
bye week, and let's kind of get into that that
bye week.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Everybody kind of got their different ways they approach the
bye week. Some guys take vacation, some guys, you know,
get away just to relax with their family. Some guys
lock in and don't go anyway. Kind of want to
find out what you guys did. Since Logan is the guest,
we're gonna start with you, Logan Man, what you do?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Thanks, I appreciate it, you.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Know obviously, like when I was in Washington for five years,
like I would take a vacation, go see my folks.
But when I was in Chicago, San Francisco, Atlanta, Houston.
My family stayed in Virginia, so I'd usually take that
bye week to get back and see the wife and kids,
try to be a dad for a couple of weeks, and.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Then uh then pop back out.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So just about you Tanta.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
You know, the bye week kind of varied for me.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
I think over the years, I found a way to
navigate them differently. Or when I was young, you know,
I started off my road was a little bumpy, you know,
coming in. I got injured out the gate, So it
was no year that I had a bye week really,
you know. It was always trying to get healthy, trying
to get over you know, get back on the field,
or even if I was already on the field playing
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that year, I tried to just stay around and kind
of you know, not get to uh off football.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
I wanted to stay I want to stay in tune
with what was going on.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
As I got older, I didn't know I was gonna
play fourteen years. So those last four or five years, man,
I realized I had built up a good little you
know what I mean, I guess you can say resume
when it came to what I had you know, done
on the football field to where now I should be
able to enjoy it a little bit.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
So I got away.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I would take the kids to the Bahamas because we couldn't,
you know, during the summer, we was always trying to
find things to do, but we had other stuff going on,
other stuff playing, so we would take a little trip
to the Bahamas. My lady, years of playing, did you
ever feel like it took you out of it?
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Didn't. Honestly.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
It was one of those kind of let me go
over here and kind of reset because I'm never gone
too long, so I'll probably be going from that Thursday
till the next Monday or come back Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And I felt like.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
It was just enough time because usually you got to
think about it. I'm from Miami, so I would normally
just go to Miami. But going to Miami and sitting
around there, it's just like taking a little boat ride.
To the Bahamas is right across the water, so same difference.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I know, if I'd have went to Bahamas, I might
have been like, hey, I need ten I stayed a
little longer.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Robin.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Two weeks later, we know we're.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
The one that had to come get you for sure.
You know, come on, flesh, go and hang out with
me at the bar.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Now, for me, it was about you know, usually we
didn't Oftentimes I want on the best team so we
ain't have to too long off. But the time I
had off, I actually spent time back in when I
was in Washington, back in d C, just around the
house because you guys know, during the season, only off
day we really have is Tuesday, so and a little
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bit on Saturday. But for the most part, I would
find time to catch up around the house, do things,
maybe going to facility, stretch, do whatever. But I just
wanted to stay more so just rest. I would try
to get off the game a little bit.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
You wouldn't you wouldn't take any time off. You wouldn't
go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Wasn't time off during the season.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
So that's ain't we ain't gonna tell them that, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
As far as by week approach, for me, I think
a lot of times when you're younger, you might go somewhere.
I've been times while I went to Vegas. Come on
all in the same week, Vegas. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
big fletching Vegas. As you get older, you really don't
want to go anywhere, especially I couldn't turn it on
once I turn it off, I should say once the
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season started. It wasn't a situation where I can find
myself going away for a vacation and mentally check out
and not be thinking about the game. So we used
to just do staycations, especially when I was in DC.
We go stay at the four season something like that,
do stuff like that. But as far as just going
and getting away in my earlier years, yes, but as
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I got later in my career, I just couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
As we look at this by week.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
For our current team, obviously, injuries have been a major
situation for a major issues. Hopefully doing this by week,
we've been to get some guys healthy and able to
come back. Maybe Jaden is able to come back, maybe
Terry some of the other guys.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
How do you feel much needed? Yeah? Much needed? As logan.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
As you think about this team, what do you think
they gonna benefit most from with this by week?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
So I think a lot of people are gonna say
the injuries first off, but I think it's gonna take
I think the bye week also serves as a good
time to self scout and kind of that extra couple
of days of practice to kind of get it right.
Like let's say we're having a hard time like defensively,
We've talked a lot this week about like fitting runs, coverage, communications,
Like that's where we can kind of hone around the
details and be like offensively or off or defensively offensively.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Like what do we really want to be now?
Speaker 6 (06:38):
With the personnel situation is what it is, right and
this is the perfect time for that self reflection, self analysis,
kind of look at some of the numbers, some of
the statistical numbers, like hey, we're really good in thirteen personnel,
maybe getting thirteen personnel more, or hey maybe we're better
in base defense. Were getting that a little bit more
with Jordan McGee on the field. So I think now's
the time to get that done and really kind of
iron out some of the things that have felt a
little icky.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
So far, or at least the last couple weeks. But
the team, what.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
About you as you look at this team? I want
to touch on really the wide receivers. Yeah, started off
the season obviously, if you imagine you're gonna have Terry mcclauin,
Deebo Samuel's and Noah Brown and that hasn't been the case.
No One and Terry have dealt with injuries and things
like that. But these young receivers, they've had the opportunities
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to play, and some of them, you know, they've they've
taken advantage of it, and some of them are still
trying to prove themselves. What have you seen from this
this receiver Cord and particularly the younger one, especially like
a guy like a Jalen Lane and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Well, I've seen probably the same thing you saw. Some
of the coverages that these guys are getting. They're in
situations where at times they're not open, then at times
they're getting a favorable matchup that you would think we'll
take advantage of. Uh, something happens in the backfield, something
happens with a blitz and then you know the quarterback
means they can't get to them. But with all that
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being said, we still need to see somebody flat. Somebody
has to step up and flash and I think you
know last.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Flash expand on that.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Yeah, I mean I was gonna get to it last week.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
You know, we saw saw a young fellow that got
his opportunity and Birks that really really to me raised
a lot of our eyebrows, like saw some things from
him that we can say, hey, this is what the
guy kind of on displayed when he was coming out
in the draft, and that's why he was drafted first
drafted in the first round about four years ago.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Three four years ago.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah, And so besides him, someone else needs to step up.
So we've had we've seen games from More, We've seen
games from Luke and all those guys. But I just
want to see some consistent play going forward. I think
if we can get the receivers to kind of play
on a different level, then we can see our offense
kind of get back to what we saw early in
this season, to be able to use our run game
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a little more and to not have those I mean,
like I'm saying, we're seeing coverages where they saying screw
the receivers, no respect on our side, And I'm not
sure if our coach is saying, Okay, we have to
make sure we respect what they're showing us. But sometimes
we got to go out there on the limits say
if they gonna show us that, we still got to
throw the ball at you.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
And also I think sometimes in season you're so close
to it and the bye week gives you an opportunity
to step back and so like maybe as if I'm
Cliff kingsback and say, hey, you know what jail lanes
really good at. He's going to run these deep posts
or deep crossers. We can get him on those a
little bit more. Maybe that short intermediate stuff isn't necessarily
his ball of wax Le's speak to that skill set
little bit or Robbie chose him. Man, he's in a
great job for some of these deep outbreakers. Let's hit
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him on those as opposed to running goals.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
And so as a play caller, this is a good
time for me to get again go back and look
at say, maybe we didn't maximize those opportunities because we're
getting used to the players. Think about It's almost like
a preseason for some of these guys, right in terms
of opportunities. So now as a coach, I can say, hey,
let's get this worked out and cleaned up a little bit.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I feel like I feel like the point you're making
is you get a chance to now reset too as
a coach and say let me look at what their
success is, yeah, and now implement that and key plays
with key key situations of the game. That'd be great
because I know guys who did that well. A lot
of coaches I played with did that well. I had
a coach in the Jets that will bring one eyed
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guys and he was fast as all out door. They
bring him in for just all the deep routes.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
And teams know it. But guess what if you're going
to cover that, then someone else is over to.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Something else and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, just sticking with the offense for a little bit.
Logan real quick, the tight ends. We're starting to see
more three tight end formation of personnel groupings, kind of
from the commander's offense from Cliff kind of figuring out, hey,
this might be the best personnel group of four us
considering where we are just from a health standpoint of
our wide receivers. What do you like from the from
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the tight end so far? And what would you like
to see more from the tight end?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
I mean, right now, I think that's our most outside
of the offensive line on the most dynamics.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
It's definitely our most dynamic seel position group.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Right with zach Ertz.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
You see the route running savvy of the nuance. I
think John Bates again like kind of figuring out what
guys are good at. Right, you know we've gotten that
big thirteen personnel. He's off the ball a little bit,
kind of that move guy. I think it's superpowers in line.
So last week you see Cliff get him back in line,
get him back on those teams, Ben and Sentence the
move guy. They've kind of formationed it. So Zach is
kind of that extra wide receiver. He's not really in
the run fit. I think that's understanding the personnel better.
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So again, the more we can understand it, the more
we can get into thirteen because again, as you know, defensively,
when you get in thirteen personnel, sometimes you get auto checks,
like we're in cover three every single time. Like to
play a little giants, we get in thirteen versus and
they'd automatically get into cover three.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
So all of our cover three beaters worked.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You know what I'm say, you're from that personnel group,
and we may have two defenses at most that we're
gonna play against certain personnel groups, especially if it's something
where it's not a thing where you're gonna have but
you don't want a bunch of corners in the rough
fund and trying to fit certain things and not really
don't feel real good about blissing it from a defensive standpoint,
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Sean the cornerbacks, Yeah, what have you.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Seen from the corners?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Obviously we've taken some injuries, some major hits, right Trey
Amos now he's he's out probably for the rest of
the season with his his broken fibula with the ac Yeah,
still dealing with mejury. What would you like to see
from the corners after this bye week?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Well, I think the big thing for the corners and
playing in the back end. Besides, now you're playing with
some guys who hadn't had a lot of experience playing
together with him, Almilton ig Monogamy and those guys. For me,
I thought our communication would have been a little bit better.
I thought we were very talented, you know, coming into preseason,
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coming into the camp.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Our guys look good against our offense right now.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Granted Terry wasn't there, but we felt like we had
guys who could play both man and zone and can
get it done and give us some flexibility to not
only need to be able to blitz and cover, but
also be able to drop back and let the front work.
And we had times when we talked about it. This
gave up too many explosive plates. There were games when
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we were just like, why is this.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Guy wide open?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
And and for me that that might be just maybe
not communicating, not communicating in the back end oftentimes seemed
like they're not on the same page. And we had
games where we played very well for first half Kansas City,
when we expected Kansas City to come and bomb those
guys and they played great, and then when it was
just like Seattle was just awful. Right And those are
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the two most recent games before the buye that I saw.
So what I would like to see happen is one
we got to find the right rotation back there that
guys can play together. And we know potentially Will could
be coming back, Will Harris could be coming back, Kwan
will be back.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I think that would be a big deal. Will Harris.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I think I think Will Harris was a key loss
for us. We're losing him because he's a great communication,
He's a Swiss Army knife. He could play Rover Nickel
don Deep play half field, and losing him was critical
right now.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
But not to disrespect Jay Reeves.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Reeves came in and played great when he got in
but it's nothing like having a group of guys finally
starting to get some chemistry play together.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well that's it.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Hey, So you know what we're gonna We're gonna get
to this spot that I want to talk to about
best too. We got Logan on the show, and you know,
we call you the Film Group for a reason. You're
gonna be talking about one of the guys that we
called the Captain. Tell me what are some of the
things that you experienced practicing against these guys and also
share with us some of the things that you're gonna
be watching on film from them.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Yeah, man, I mean like one of the things that
London taught me was, like you know, talking about working
you know what I'm saying, Like when you're going against
someone who's seen it all, like they have all the
answers and so you can try a bunch of different stuff.
And London was extremely gracious with his time, kind of saying, hey, man,
think about this, try this. And I had to learn
through a lot of mistakes, but I can look at
a guy like London, and there's other guys like you know,
Lorenzo Alexander, Brian Rachbow that made me better just because
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they were so good and like getting Fletched not only
on the practice field but in the meeting room, seeing
his work ethics, seeing physical toughness and courage, like all
that stuff was so special. So to me, like when
I turn on the film, I expect to see a dog, right,
because that's what he was. He was an absolute dog.
And and I haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, he just said he was You did said he
was soft earlier. I said, be off the field, I
told you.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Even practice. One time I thought I had him.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I thought I had him lined up on a backside
insert block and he was looking towards the run. So
I was like, I'm about to jack this dude up.
And so I go up there and he last second
like looked at me, last minute, busted my chin strap.
Hul Helmer came off. And this was in practice. Now
the dude wasn't taking any reps off. So got a
lot of respect for Fletch. And again like I mean,
it's so fun to watch great players. So watching London
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watching b Mitch, like there's something special about that.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
For me, I had a chance to play on defensive
side of the ball with him and and and be
be privileged to be lined up, oftentimes on third down
beside him. You know, there's players that are great players,
but London was one of the few guys that was
a coach and a player at the same time.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Because we would have times.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Where Greg or whoever, Greg Blosher, Greg Rams, whoever, the
person was that got us in a call for London
that recognized something as two by two stubble sean, you know,
were about to get a ram stunt or something so
they could make the ball bounce or a high little concept.
Oftentimes you need a guy on the field that's a
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coach because the coach is going to make some calls, man,
but London is going to get you into the best
call for the situation, to tell you that little bit
of nuancing that's gonna make that a whole that whole playwork.
So I really appreciate about that, about his game and
uh and the way he studied film. I think it
was contagious. And everybody else in the defense room trying
to make me blush.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
Yeah, you know, we don't want to. We don't want to.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
We don't want to get London teary eye, but we
appreciate you for coming on the show logan and sharing that.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
With us on the Players Club.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
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Speaker 7 (17:10):
The fast Lane.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
You're talking about the Washington legends, sir. So I'm gonna
asks you guys and myself, we're gonna all we're gonna
all talk about three of our favorite or three guys
that we feel that was the top Washington guys in
our you know, in our case, we who.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
We believe that we like to move. All Right, So
I'm start I'm gonna start with you show.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
We're gonna all three.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
We're gonna go one at a time, one at a time.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The time I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go way back first,
I'm gonna start off with Sammy Ball. I went way
back because oftentimes you forget he was a guy that
really changed the game runner forward pass. He was a quarterback,
he was a defensive back, and he was a punter.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So he played all three special teams offense and defense.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And I think people really forget his impact on the
national football League, the forward passer, Sammy Ball, he's in
a raptors.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Everyone talking about it.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
But if you're a legend, I mean, if you're a
historian of the game, Sammy Bobach.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
For me, it was my first while that's that's a
great one.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I'm gonna go with mister Redskins Dyale Green.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Deal bran you a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Spent twenty years, all twenty seasons with the Washington Redskins.
Unheard of to be able to play that long at
that position. And then also he played it, played there
for one team his entire career at a high level,
high level. I feel like he had I believe he
had an interception in every one of his NFL seasons.
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So that's just ridiculous in itself. Imagine being, you know,
thirty eight, forty thirty nine, forty years old, still out
there making play, covering receivers and making interception.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So I'm gonna go with a Dale Green.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I think I'm gonna start it off with somebody, y'all.
I probably don't think I would have thought of Bobby Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Oh man, Bobby Mitchell. That's a legend, man, that's the game.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Who started off.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, Bobby Mitchell was started off for all of us.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
The reason why I go with Bobby Mitchell just knowing
where this team came from, you know how far they
up came. I think he was one of the first
African Americans, you know what I mean, to play for
this franchise. But not only did he play, I mean
he was bro like. I mean talking about the best
of the best. You're talking about, You're talking about guys
who did it all. He can play receiver, he can
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play in the back, he could play out in the backfield.
This guy was fast. This guy could catch the ball.
I mean, he put up numbers that sometime you think
about it, you look at you got to go look
him up because you're like, man, that he was able
to do that and that lesson of a time and
sharing the ball with this guy. And one of the
things that stood out about him to me was my
first year I got here, I was able to break
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his single season receiving yards And it was crazy because
I didn't know nothing about his you know, his story,
and when I learned by his story.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And the fact that he had it that long time.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Not only not only that I met him ten years
later and his wife and him one to.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Meet me more than any other team or teammate I had.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
So that's the guy man I had to bring put
first on my list, got seconds for me.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I'm either go give a shout out. I had a
chance to go to his event. They had to be
Art Monk Man.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You're talking about you talking for mister professional.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You know when you're talking about an anchor in the
years the Super Bowl winning teams, a guy who also
moved around, play inside outside, came in the league as
a running back. Art played running back at Syracuse and
when they needed a first down, you're going to Art and.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Everybody knew it.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
But his most important status Tanner. You'll really appreciate that.
When he left the game, he was an all time
leading receiver in NFL history.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Think about that. So that's my guy. Art Monker is
my second.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So my second one, and it's actually he could have
been my first one.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I'm gonna go Coach Gibbs.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Yeah, we didn't live with this ones to play anybody.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I'm gonna go Coach Gibbs.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Hall of Fame Coach two Stints is the head coach
of the Washington Redskins, three time Super Bowl champion did
it with three different starting quarterbacks, which is just unheard
of that nobody has done that, win three Super Bowls
with three different starting quarterbacks. So Joe Gibbs iconic to
this franchise. He's there pitting me of a winner. That's
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that's that's one of the legends. I got up there shout.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Out to my man, coach Chick.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I gotta go with man, this is a guy. There's
so many guys that I could put up there, because
there's a lot of guys that has the numbers that
could be considered Hall of famers, that are Hall of famous.
But this guy here story was cut a little too soon.
I'm gonna go with Sean Taylor. Man start was doing something,
Man that that caught the whole league by stone. You
know what I mean By surprise, I mean, and it's
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just it's almost it's almost one of those things that
you kind of shake your head by every time you
think about it, you know what I mean, Like, imagine
what I'm saying. It just bothered you at times. Student
Emon he was blue.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I mean Sean.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I know y'all y'all played with Sean a lot longer
with him in college college right, I said, five years
had back room. But Tanner obviously you know him because
Miami and I only played with him those eight games,
and people asked me about him, I said, man, Sean,
as good as he was at that point, he was
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only scratching the surface.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Oh yeah, I've.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Played with some Hall of Fame defense players. He was
gonna be one of the all time greats. Yeah, and
it's it's tragic that his life ended so so so
so soon. We were robbed in him as a player.
It's a person, but man, we we also was robbed
from him. What type of player he could have become?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
So disruptive, I mean all aspects of the game. Physical
at that point, attack, excellent around the ball range, I mean,
could cover receiver to a tight end. I mean Sean,
I mean, god, lead, that was a great one. My
third guy for me is going back to London's guy.
It was dark Green and Darryl. You know, we joke
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all time because like, he played twenty years at cornerback
in the NFL, and you be like, man, that's a
long time. But I don't think people know how long
that is. How many good receivers you had to see
in a twenty year period we're talking about from we're
talking with Jerry Rice to Andre Reid the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
To Michael.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Taying to think about all those rest a.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
New ERAB guys to TiO Johnson myself right like yourself,
like and when you think of Daryl Man, it's just
one of those things where you just be like, that's
simply amazing for somebody player at that high of a
level for twenty years, right and uh, and nobody ever
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talks about he was any you can speak on it.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
He was a monster in the return game. Everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Everybody remember that classic Chicago Bear game holding his rig
in return that and I was an NFC championship he.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Was, right now, he Yeah, if you want to be,
if you want to be, what you call.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
The scholarship game was just his playoff game for sure.
Yeah it was a regular season, I mean it was
a playoff.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Now.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
But he was one of those guys so it's a
freaking nature like he was. He was rare man Like,
you don't get a guy in that frame to play
that long, for one to be that dynamic, you know,
in a big man's league like he He was the
first guy that you can look at and say size
didn't really mean much because you look at Darrow to
the point you're like he still looked the same, you
know what I mean, And it's like nothing has changed
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five to eight. Yeah, like like if that in one,
like couldn't run when you know, so Darrel was that
guy who you got for your third guy?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You know it's up the third one.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It's hard, man, because we've had so many not just
great football players, the iconic players that have played in
this franchise different eras. There's some guys I think when
it's all said and done we look back to when
we go fast forward twenty years, it might be a
guy who played with us, we might look at a
like a Christy Samuels, Chris Samuel or Trent Williams. Yeah
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he maybe it's a JD five. You know, hopefully he's
able to have that type of career. But just wanted
I'm gonna go wait, I'm a state back in the
day the Diesel. Yeah, Riggas, John Riggins man, John Riggins
is gonna be the guy for me.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I can just remember as it looked like you wore
forty four running back, No.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I was, I wore thirty two. I wanted the only
reason I wore thirty two because they didn't have twenty nine.
Eric Dickerson was my guy. That's not who I wanted
to be, but they didn't have twenty nine the year
I played running back of high school. But John Riggins
the Diesel part of that, the Hogs in the run
game that was he was a major call and then
one of those Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, well, you know my third guy, I'm gonna say
his name and then I'm gonna wrap it up because
I can't be too long with it with it. My
third guy will be Trent Williams. I am gonna says.
I want to see a lot of guys, but you
mentioned it, and he was one of the guys in
my head that I was saying, should I say his name?
Speaker 7 (26:19):
But I have to say it, I think.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And you pay.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I was able to play with Chris Sammy's and him,
but Trent from day one, you know, it was like
a little brother to me. Like when he came in,
came in around the same time Logan came in and
those guys we had this bond like order because I say,
we always playing cards together, so you know how we say.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
High team too.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
That's you know what I'm saying that part. But now
he was one of those talents. Man, I never saw
anything like it. Like I would go play basketball with
this guy, and how he was on his toes man
like to be that big but still be able to
carry his weight. And he told me was like I
was a running back all my life. He's like, I
woke up one morning and I'm I'm a giant. He
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played running back in Little Lead, you know what I mean.
So yea, I'm gonna get oldse Floers to Trent Man
and one day we maybe we'll be talking about, you know,
pulling his name up in the Raptors, you know, for
for our team.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And we can't forget be mentioned London, but it could
be one of those guys and those Raptors too.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
All those guys gonna be in there. But that's a
rap man, you know. From James Joyce. After this quick breakdown,
you will hear from Bid Mitchell.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
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Speaker 2 (28:16):
Welcome back to the Players Club. We got b Mitch
Brian Mitchell should be in the Hall of Fame. Will
be in the Hall of Fame. We all hear them.
This is the bye week condition. Full disclosure, be miss
Santana myself. We all sleep deprivation, you know, just let
y'all know. Be mitch Man. What's it like for you?
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I don't know if you've played in the international game before.
This is my first time actually being a part of
an international game.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
What's this experience like or what was that experience like
for you?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Well?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I played in preseason.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
We played against the San Francisco forty nine ers all
the year, right, I think the same year he won
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I went out there and played.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
And it's just fun when you go to another country
and you watch the love that people have have for
this game, which we played in London at Wendy Stadium,
and uh, you know, walking around town, people walking up
to you from London telling you how much they watch it,
what time in the morning they're watching you play football,
and it's overwhelming. But then they come out here now
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being in Madrid. I've been to Barcelona with the NFL Europe,
been a Frankfurt and things like that, but then this
is the first time this game has been played here.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
And you look at where we're at.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
You know, people know real Madrid around the world, but
still they want to know about this game, American football
as well.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Because it's kind of a little a little barbaric in
a sense.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
No, I was gonna ask you, how dope is it
to now be sitting on this side of it. We
don't have to worry about focusing on the game. You know,
we have to talk talk the game, but we can
actually explore a little more and get out and see
the sites.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You know, I think it was easier when I came
to play. I had the time to rest. You know,
this town rest not really know. But it's fun. It's
fun being on this side of the game. Look, I
love the game of football. Say abody if something I
saw at a young age and said I wanted to do.
And it took me from La Road and Black New
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Louisiana to Hell Madrid, Spain now and watching all other
people come along and be able to live out their fantasies.
You know, it's something that I really really admire and
I really really try to push, you know, I tell
guys all the time. You know, I came from a
small high school, small college.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I was able to live my dream.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
A lot of guys come from these bigger colleges and stuff,
and they don't like I heard you all talking with
Ma and Marcus and saying about you know how people
how how Dan believed in and believe this guy more
than they believe in themselves sometimes. And I think guys
have to just understand, no matter where you're from, you
have to believe in you if you're gonna get to
where you want to be, you know, And I think
that's the main thing I always try to push the guys.
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Everybody's wrong. Everybody fast, they play football, but everybody don't
have that confidence that when they gonna be doing something
when everybody else is at at home are not looking.
But we got to talk about something. Sean don't know
anything about Sorry about this super Bowl You touched on
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that men ninety one super Bowl team.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
That's the greatest super Bowl team.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Tell us about that team, because I don't think enough
people talk about how dominant you guys were. I don't
think if we had people on this team, but I
think about it.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
People look at teams.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And they you remember super Bowl team, right, But they
start looking for individuals. And if you want to look
for individuals, you had Daryl Green on that team. You
had our Monk on that team. Charles Man was on
that team. Dexter Man and dexe Man wasn't on that team.
Will Marshall was on that team. You know Gary Clark
Ricky saying that you had guys like that on the team.
But the ultimate thing is we were a team and
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I remember guys like Terry Or and Ron Middle and
Donny Warren, guys that you don't say as a superstar,
but you know what that guy. Those guys did the
same thing on every play. They never made a mistake.
You know, we had a running game. We had a
running game. We had a defense that was unbelievable. Special
teams was ranked in the top three. And when you
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get every category, when you get all three of your
fans in the top five, kind of hard to beat that.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
And the thing about it, like.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
People talk about older teams, You look at the age
on that team. It was about twenty six point two
years the average age on that team. They were one
of the oldest teams ever. But nobody made mistakes and
they won. Went to the art Mark event. Obviously Art
Market was on our team. That was one of the
things he talks about, this the bond between you guys.
It was like he was like, it was like no
other man. It was the thing I looked for a
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team just like us. We travel with each other, hang out,
We have a chemistry in a bond that I think
that team had where when I walked in, the coaches
didn't have to say a damn thing for me to
understand what the team was about. I just watched the
guys work and I just started imitating what they were doing.
You know, because everybody did the same thing. They came
there to work, They worked hard, they played hard. There's
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one thing about that team. People always talk about how
good they were. We were champions off the field too.
We hadn't fun with each other. We are fun.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
We got camera phones back, yeah, but we took care
of each other.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
If you saw one, you saw twenty five at somebody's house,
all together at a restaurant or whatever that team was.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's why his family, you know, you see how we
reacted that team you're on.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Hell yeah, speaking speaking of that team and y'all winning
the Super Bowl and how many I mean, you just
talked about some studs and you know, talking about studs
is one thing.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
A few of those guys are Hall of famers, you know,
and it could be some more that we probably could
be talking about. But we're talking about you and being
mentioned in the Hall of Fame London as well. But
for you, man, like I said before, like you mentioned,
I knew a lot about your career, didn't know the numbers,
but I remember seeing you for the first time when
I when I played the game against you, I'm like, man,
it's be missed.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
That's the guy to be running the punts and the kicks.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
But that's like if you didn't know anything about somebody,
you know what they do, what they were specially with
right man, all these years of your numbers is being
cemented there and people knowing that, Hey, this guy when
he left the game, he was at the top of
the charts.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
He's a guy.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
How does it feel to now be recognized?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
And I know it's not enough, but how does it
feel now to be recognized finally by by these guys
who I guess you could say, quote unquote who select
the guys for the Hall of Fame? And where do
you want to see this thing go this year?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I would like to see.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
I would love.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Like man, listen every time someone says something like that,
you know when people say future Hall of Fame is
supposed to be in Hall of Fame. All that stuff
made me feel good. Gail Sarah said, be mich played
in any era? You know you hear Gail Saarah saying
that that was a bad man. That made me feel good.
But the ultimate thing is, listen, bro I left this
game twenty two years ago, and there's numbers that I left.
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It ain't nobody got close to yet and people wanted to.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Say, well, you didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I don't care what I didn't do, right, I know
what I did when I left this game. I left
some hell of numbers. It's like this man left a
lot of hell of the numbers. And if those numbers
still staying, what I'm saying, here's another here's another part.
Sorry to cut you off, Sean. We talk about impacting
winning and losing. So offensive guys they gonna, you know,
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I receiving quarterback, running back and you scoring touchdowns, putting
up a thousand yards, all that type of stuff they
gonna that's gonna stand out defensive players. You are defensive man.
You're getting sacks and all that type of stuff, corner
getting interception. You impacted the game from a standpoint of
taking returns back to the house, putting setting the offense
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up for a great field position.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
And those are just the times you touched the football.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
But what about from a just a game playing standpoint,
like we ain't kicking it to him, man, I got
to kick this thing, got a bounds before. That's what
people we kick it to that. That's what people don't understand.
I had a lot of teams wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Kick to me.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, you know, I remember, But they also I realized
all these other guys that they talk about, I was
tackling them. I cover kick a coverlets and let's be real,
I got in the backfield. I average over six yards
of carry one season. You know I could run it.
I played quarterback a little bit for you. The whole
thing about it is like when you talk about a
Hall of Famer, it's a guy like you said that
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an impact on the game.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
But I impacted in many different ways. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
That was one year I had think I had like
thirty eight receptions or forty something receptions, and like thirty
five of them all for first downs.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
It's like when and you knew I was gonna get
the ball that came to the game. The whole thing
about it like when I played, guys knew what I
was gonna be about, and I was gonna be in
your face talking trash all day.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
You did your job.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Somebody got to do their job. Put them in there.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
That's right, man, eleven. Do it from the Bible. Condition
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