August 1, 2025 • 44 mins
Newy Scruggs, Barry Church, Damontre Moore and Anthony Dorsett discuss latest Dallas Cowboys news and notes on The Player's Lounge.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's
Loude broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.
Now your hosts Barry Church, Anthony dor sat De, Montrey Moore,
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and Newi Scrugs.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It is the Players Loud.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I am not Newie Scruggs, and I'll say this again,
I am the handsomer.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Jesse Hollysoon Force.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Newie Scrugs plays a lot of pretend to you by aristocrat.
I got Barry Charge, Damonte Moore, I'm gonna call you,
Anthony Dixon.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I want to Anthony do.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Right and on the phone. We have Newly Scrugs and
I'm gonna get right into it. Fellas man.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
As of about fifteen minutes ago, bombshell news has come down.
We thought there was gonna be a chill and easy Friday.
We was gonna come here do what we do.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He's having a hell up out of here about it
during the weekend.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
And they got the day off out there too as well.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So yeah, until Michael Parson said, old contrail on to me,
I got a little something for y'all. We've known the
back and forth that they've been having Michael with the
whole day, and then he dropped the big He dropped
this is the big joke of today. He dropped the
joke of the day. And Michael Parson has formerly requested
a trade from the Dallas Cowboys. He has come to
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his wits end with this hold out. He has come
to his wits end with the shots being taken at him.
He has come to his wits end without the ownership
contacting his agent, and he said, I'm out, I'm done,
I'm finished.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I want to be traded.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
We got Newie Scruggs boots on the ground in Oxnarth, California.
We're gonna go to Newie and Newie. Give me your thoughts.
What are you hearing? Did you see this coming? Did
you foresee this happening?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
This is some big news coming from franchise player.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
It's big news. But it's not the first time that
you've seen a player frustrated with negotiations with Jerry Jones.
The first Dallas Cowboys training camp I ever covered nineteen
ninety three and Mitt Smith was not there. Andmm Smith
that led the league in rushing and they won the
Super Bowl at Jerry Jones adamant about how much he
wanted to pay him, and he was trying to pay
him under what he paid Jerry Jones. And it was
the first two games what happened, Emitt got signed. This
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is a part of how Jerry does business. Ceed laand
went through it last year. Dak Prescott went through it.
Zach Martin held.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Out just two years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
He was trying to make sure.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
He got his money straight. And at the end of
the day, the great players Jerry wants, they all signed.
All of them signed. I'm here in Los Angeles Kobe
Bryant and told Jerry Buss, then trade me. Jerry Buss
is like, no, I'm not trading. He finished his career
with the Lakers. He won two more championships after the trade.
Lamar Jackson he wanted to out of Baltimore. They resigned him.
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He won an MVP. It's now just Micah's turn here
in the blender. Guys, it's there, Okay, it's gonna happen
at some point in time. He's under contract, so they
don't have to pay him. They're not going to get
rid of him. This is his move. It's going to
get a lot of publicity. We're gonna talk about it,
but at the end of the day, Jerry Jones is
gonna give Micah's money and he'll be a cowboy and
then they'll hug and everything else and be just fine.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Now he's one hundred percent correct on this one. Like
you said, you know, Jerry hasn't lost a superstar via
free agency. Let him walk in who knows how long,
And this is this situation is not going to change
when it comes to Michael Parsons. He's done everything correct
in my opinion as far as this whole negotiation thing
is concerned. I mean, he's there throughout all OTA's mini camp.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
He showed up the camp.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
He's been that consummate leader you know for this team,
whether it's on the field or off the field, doesn't
get in trouble at any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And he's done everything correct.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Since he stepped into the the Dallas Cowboys organization. I mean,
this is a oka ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, what's going on, knew he just hit it on that.
This is a pattern, this is the blueprint. This is
under the.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Cowboys have done for a long time. But if you've noticed,
they've taken a little bit more of a frustrating approach
this time around when it comes to Micah. Could this
be I'm just I'm this is a Reckie speccy. I'm
just throwing it out there. Could this be the moment
in time where Jerry goes enough? The Ages got me
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figured out. They know if they just waited out that
we're gonna bend over and we're gonna pay them and
give them all the things that they want, all the years,
all the no trade clauses, all of the guarantees that
they want.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Could this possibly be the moment where Stephen and Jerry go.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Man?
Speaker 7 (04:59):
If they do that, it would probably be, you know,
one of the worst decisions and organization has made in
NFL history. I mean, I'm this this. If they say
is enough, I don't want to. I don't want to,
you know, deal with this anymore. We're gonna make him,
you know, fulfill the whole contract. This is you're talking
about the best player in your organization, on your team,
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the best one of the top three defensive players, maybe
the best depending on who you're talking to in the
National Football League. This is a game changer. This is
not a guy that just puts up sack numbers. This
is a guy that can change the fortunes of your franchise.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And so for you to sit there and say, you
know what this is, this is it. I'm done.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
I don't have enough. I paid this guy, paid this guy,
paid this guy, you know, and start with Micah as
the guy that you know you're gonna chock your hands with.
I feel like that would be one of the worst
decisions ever made.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I get it because I might be a little missing informed.
But when you said wipe your hands with it, from
my understanding, you're saying, maybe the deal is taken so
long because Jerry is about to finally do the whole
give him every thing that he wants to put the opposite, Okay,
I just want to make sure because okay, okay, yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Giving you everything you want like I've done before the.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Past, to all your Okay, Well, then in that case,
then you're right. I My sentiments are the same with you,
because I do feel like you're doing a disservice for
it to be the one person that has done everything statistically,
they're off the field, he's like he's a voice. And
then for him not to be a quarterback and have
command such a market the way that he does with
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his media, being a president in the community and being
that person like this is the time for you to say, hey,
do what You're not gonna have buyers remorse like the
Cleveland Browns had with Deshaun Watson or the narrative that's
being painted right now that you have buyer's remarks with
Trayvon Dick. If there's anybody that has proven that they're
the guy right now, this will be the time for
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you to say, hey, let me go ahead and do
what Jerry does in a big fashion. And like I said,
it's above my pray grade, but somebody that actually deserves it.
The only other person I could think of in NFL
history like this, And just maybe I'm biased and doing
my recent tenure, but I want to say Aaron Donald
is the only other person that is deserving as far
as putting up the stats off the field and doing
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all those things. So yes, this is the time to
break the market by not maybe giving him the bank,
but making do something that's gonna make him feel special
and that he earned it. Because that dog is hungry,
he's ready to get there, and now that he's displaying
his frustration, we're seeing that I'm not mad at him
for doing that, because he's been playing chess and not
checkers this whole time. But this last move, it was
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a little bit of a checker's move. So let's hope
that Jerry has a checker's reaction. So it's like this happened.
This happened, so we could go ahead and be happy
about it. But like Nui said, everybody gets paid and
everybody is always happy at the end of the deal.
We've seen it with De Bryan and the rest of
the thing.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
All right, let me throw this in here, guys, let
me throw this something Steven Jones has said for you
many many years now, deadlines. Think about that deal. When
did he get done? Right before they play the first
game at the end of the day. They know as
you get closer towards the season, Michael wants to play.
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He's a guy that wants to play, and he's gonna
This is when you can put the squeeze and get
all this stuff done. They know what they're doing. The
franchise is the most valuable in the world. They gonna
get it done. This is Michael's party's frustration. He could
be mad and Jerry can sit up here all day
long and say what they've been saying. Hey man, he
had a contract this year for like twenty four million
dollars and gotta go nowhere. You got to play here.
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And if you can't just sit out, because it's not
like you can sit out and get in the years
are cured. You know, he's not gonna go out and
miss out on this money. He doesn't want to lose
a year and not put a statistics. They're playing this game.
At the end of the day, it's just gonna get done.
And Mugga Letta will get a great deal because you
know what all these agents do, and Moga Letter is
a great negotiators. Not one age in the NFL right now.
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It's just gonna have a guy we're talking about is
good stuff. Jerry like to everybody talk about the Cowboys. YadA, YadA, YadA.
It's gonna get done.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That's my people, real quick.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Why but why wait?
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Why put your your franchise at risk for having a
slow start by having one of your best players, your gain,
your game changer, not be ready when the season starts.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Why wait till the last minute.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
To get the deal with the new for the new
defensive coordinator right with a new defensive court. I don't know,
but you know they did it last year with CDL.
This is just how they do it. Man, It's just
I'm with you, but this is just how they do business.
And once again, when you got the most valuable franchise
in the world, clearly you know what you're doing because
you're just making money.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Left over, right, And yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Sometimes good they doing a Netflix special on you either, right.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
And I mean, and we've talked about everybody that has
been in the blender like new he likes to say,
but that doesn't mean it's the right way to go
about doing business. And at some point in time, you know,
like everybody in the in the locker room is supposed
to be treated the same, but everybody does not get
the same treatment.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Okay, And.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
There was something said a just read it just a
second ago where it said that Stephen Jones said, Mike
and needs to act like he wants to be paid. Well,
what has he done doctor the years playing here, being
at everything from OTA's being at the offseason conditioning program,
actually holding in a camp as well, you know what
I mean. So when you look at it, like at
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some point in time, you have to do something a
little bit different from time to time. Everybody does not
need to be negotiated the same way. And like we
noticed Trellis, we fall in love with this game as
children at an early age. There's no business involved in
it at all. The Joneses are what they're businessmen by trade.
We're football players, we're athletes by trade. We want to
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get back to what's normal to us. We want to
be in a comfortable position. Like Church said, why would
you have this man who is literally at camp but
not participating.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
And typically what happens.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
When that guy comes back from a holdouts what some
type of soft tissue type of injury.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Okay, so now what was going on? We're looking at
the second week.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Of okay, and he's not participated, he's not in these drills.
He's actually not getting getting to tend a chance to play.
So at this point Michaeh has to also protect his
best interests as well, and uh and make sure that
he's really ready to go when that when when, and
hopefully when that contract is done.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
And ready to go, you go something all right, Fellas,
I gotta head over here. I'm trying to talk to somebody,
right now over here, knock, start to see where I
can get done for somebody, get back.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
To work, but not to be the dead. We all
agree with it, and I know I'm about to get
killed by the fans. Be gentle. Everybody that I'm talking
to one is the player's lounge. We all have a
player's perspective. So yes, we all agree Michael should be
paid and if there's anybody that should be paid, it
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should be done right now. But also the point of
players lounge is to give you that other side of it,
that inside school and somebody has the place devil advocate.
And so if I'm the if I'm owning the team,
if I want it to be a GM, like, I'm
gonna be real with you, I'm gonna have buyers remorse too,
especially all the guys that I pay. When you think
of deals like a Ezekiel Elliott deal, when you think
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of a deal like a Trayvon Diggs deal that's going on, like, yeah,
I'm gonna sit there and say, man, hey, did I
really maximize that deal? Did you deserve that? But in
the same bread basket, you have guys like Zach Martin,
Tyron Smith, Daz Bryant that earned their contracts and stuff
like that. So from a business perspective, we know the
shield is bigger than anything. The shield is always gonna win.
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And just like some organizations, I tell you right now,
one they might get mad about it, but I bet
you the Browns organization is mad about all the money
that they spend on DeShawn and sitting there doing that.
So when you have situations like that, and overall, speaking
in the long term of things, people messing up contracts,
it's like, I don't want to do that. But like
I said, with that being said, anybody that's proven that
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he's done it, it deserves to be Micah. But I
understand this is a business. Let's not forget that. Like
we're paying, we're playing a child's game for a king's ransom.
You think that I'm not about to go invest up
make somebody one hundred million dollar type guy a two
hundred million dollar type guy, or maybe potentially even we
know Jerry, when he loves his guys, he loves setting
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the market, he might even give him potential ownership in that.
Mike is a smart guy, Like he's gonna sit there
and say let me do something. He ain't gonna give him.
But I did but touch Jones, But no way with
him being who he is in the media market, you
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don't think Jerry's gonna sit there and say, hey, I
own the NFL network, let me give your own TV
show or some backdoor deal. There's some land, there's something
like he's going to make it special, and so it's
just about, hey, how can you do it? And you know,
we all know mister Jones when he's getting ready to
get right there, he has two or three people saying
slow down, don't do this, and do that. So my
question is who's pulling the rings?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I think on the business side of things, we've come
such long way, right like when you talk about the
media part of it, right like Mike is the president
of bleacher Report. You know what I'm saying, He's the
president of that sector of bleacher Report. It's it's not
so singular focused where one people one person, or small
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where people control those type of things. Mike is such
a big name that he's going to be have options
to do anything with everything. And because he was associated
with the Star, not not that he has to get
it from the Star or the people that own the Star.
Because of his his greatness, and it being in this uniform.
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The phone calls happen, man, the emails get returned, so
those type of things. It is he trust me. He's
not at Bleacher Parot by accident. Okay, Bleacher Report says,
you're tied to that franchise. We're gonna give you the
bag to do that, and forever, forever, forever, we'll keep
giving you the back. So I mean the business part
of it, I think a lot of people know. And
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here's also where your representation comes in. We're talking about
now the Battle of the Forbes, right, We're talking about
the Forest Battle. We're talking about Jerry Jones and the
Cowboys being the number one franchise in Forbes evaluation. And
we're talking about now David malu Getta being the number
one agent and all the.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Sports already a million over and negotiating contracts this year.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
So David hasn't figured out like he hasn't figured out,
and he's going to have a plan set up for
Micah that's going to take whatever he makes now and
make him a lot of money for a lot of years.
So it's just it's it's we've come to a different
place now where you don't need the team to set
you up for greatness. Mike is a big enough entity
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on his own that he's going to get all the
brand deals that he wants and he needs. And he
is a person who doesn't come with the checkered pass
because a lot of times, you know, you don't you
don't get you don't get the green dollars from the
white people when you got a checker pass right Scared
they don't want everything. They don't want to they got it.
They're scared to deal with you or what you may bring.
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They're not bringing the back to you fact, you know
what I'm saying. And Micah doesn't. Michael while he has
this thing that he says in the media, that's the media,
that's words, he doesn't have anything on his ledger that
says this is a guy who we can't give one
hundred million dollars you know, media distribution deal to You.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
He's checked every box that you can think of when
it comes to that. Like when I think of players
like Michaeh, I can't help but think of Dion when
he was playing if that makes sense, Like to have
that magnitude of effect on the media market, go out
there put the results down there. But the difference between
him and the Deon Sanders effect, he has a certain
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humbleness about him like that. He's been showing like, hey,
I'm the guy. I want to be here. He's saying
all the right answers. And so for him to be
in that that that position right now, he's played everything right.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
I believe that, you know, and part of negotiations with
him having when the top agents was for that was
all in negotiation tactic for.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Him to hold in to begin with.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
You know, I definitely think that they was probably trying
to see how much leverage they had up front, how
soon it could actually get done with him actually being
in the presence. Okay, hey, go out there, had those conversations.
You know what I'm saying, talk, see where Jerry coming from.
Report back to me, let me know what's cracking, and
everything else like that.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
But now that we're.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
At this place here, okay, and it ain't no budget,
ain't nothing else happening. You know, I keep running my mouth,
I'm saying all the right stuff while I'm running it, though,
but it's no progress being made. So you know, I'm
like Michaeh, like how much longer do I need that
It's not even about me saying I want to be
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off the team. How much longer do I have to
keep sitting here watching and not being able to participate
and trying to be a part of this team?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (17:48):
So I feel where he's coming from. I understand, but
I definitely think that him going to camp was part
of their negotiation tactics as well.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
All right, let's take our first break and we'll get
back to this conversation. If you're just hearing this, Michael
Parsons has formerly requested the trade from the Dallas Cowboys.
This is the player's lows. We'll continue this discussion on
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the conversation that we had in the first segment. Michael
Parson has formally requested the trade for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
He had a long, long.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Message, and to summarize some of it, he said, I
am tired of going with the back and forth. I
negotiated in good faith. I thought I was having a
conversation on leadership. A conversation about contracts came about. I
thought we were just talking. The jones took that as
bible and said that was it. And he said, my
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agent has tried over and over and over again to
get in contact with the Joneses to know avail that
they haven't been able.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
To do anything.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
He says, as of today, there has not been negotiations
with the Joneses and his agent, David malu Guetta. And
at this point he has said, and he being Michael Parsons,
I want out is would this be the biggest Would
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this be the biggest trade I don't know, will this
be the biggest trade request that we've seen last ten
fifteen years when you think about in the National Football.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
League, I mean, I don't even think anybody goes close
to this when you talk about it. I mean, even
though he got a racket brain a little bit to
think about it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
But man, we're talking about a guy that's a.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Perennial not pro bowler, but perennial All Pro player, like
like similar to like you said, if it was Aaron
Donald or something that was just like, nah, I need
a trade request like that. That's the type of impact
this guy as on this team. And so to me, man,
it would be wild to steal something that I'm gonna
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send this to you, and to steal something that that
that Demontre said talking about playing Devil's advocate.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Is there is.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
There any any any goodness that because you're gonna get
a king's ransom, right, Anthony, If you trade Michael Parsons,
you're going to get a king's ransom, right. I would
hope now you might be like Nico and them down
there with the Dallas Mavericks and not get what we
get for a star player. But this is just we're
having a conversation, right, We're having a conversation. This is
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the lounge, Anthony. Could you see a scenario where if
you traded Michael Parsons you could get back a hall
that could bring you enough pieces to come back kind
of Almo like the Herschel Walker trade back.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
In the day. I was about to say, give you.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Get this team over the eye.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
I mean, respectfully, that's what you would want, you know
what I'm saying, But there's no guarantee in the production
that you're gonna get coming back in the building. You
already know what you might let go proving, and not
at the peak of his career.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yet, twenty six years old, young.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
He getting better, he learned the new past rush moves.
All right, He's not even as strong as he's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
He ain't even his grown man strength yet.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
So when you look at it from that standpoint, like, yeah,
you would hope that that ransom would give you that
and then some, but there's no guarantee to that. And
so you know, when I got what's proven in my hand,
I'm not too worried about what I don't know what's
in my other hand.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
All righty know I got with the proof right here.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
So with that, you know, nah, man, like as much
talk as we're doing about it, and I understand he
wants to trade, and I can't see them letting that happen.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I just can't see it.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
It ain't gonna happen. It's really not like Jerry don't
let his players go. But like you said, for Devil's advocates,
so we're not like every other show, every other podcast.
So we know he wants to get paid. We know
he's the cleanest person in history that we're talking about,
at least in my opinion as far as checking all
the boxes, that deserves that bag. But nobody is above
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the shield, and I repeat, nobody is above it. So
like if you trade him, you can be in a
situation where you be like Miami Dawks and they stack
up on all them first round picks and then all
of a sudden you get a long haul in. We've
seen it and damaka ensue that was the cornerstone for
the Lions, and all of a sudden he went down
there to Miami and the pick of his career and
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still was like doing numbers if we're saying that. So
there are people that can get traded. You know, obviously
Michael's wade cleaner. We don't think it's going to happen.
But if you trade him, you don't think that an
organization that's stockpiled like the Browns or something that got
all these first round picks just sitting in their back pocket.
Here you go, that's fur first round pick. We're gonna
pay him. As a matter of fact, here, we'll take
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this right here and give you that. They'll do that
for a perennial guy like you said, that's not even
in his peak. So if if the business people and
them Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, and whoever else that the
powers may be decided to entertain this trade idea, you
will see one of those blockbuster deals where you're like,
there's no way a franchise let them go. Nobody ever
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thought of. The Broncos will let go of von Miller
right and his and his prime like that they let
the colaborators with Khalil Mack. You go to. You think
about when DeMarcus where he wasn't in his prime, but
he was still giving you prime talent right there, and
we let him go and he went and got a
Super Bowl right there. So the right one man's trash
is another man's treasure.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
Like they used to say, these other organizations, they would
definitely you know Parson was over here. You know four
first round is whatever the case may be, they would
do that.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
But my thing is.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
When you with the cow when you at the Cowboys situation,
you got the quarterback, right, you got the quarterback that
that you want. You got the quarterback, You got the
receiver c lamb all right, you got you got the
corners on the back if they come in health, you
got the corners. You got the d lineman in Michael
Parsons the edge.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
We just paid somebody those are.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Don't do that, man, No, don't.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
I don't want to I don't want to go. You
got the cornerstone pieces. You got the cornerstone pieces already there.
Why give away that cornerstone piece for like you said,
some unproving this.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
They're not. They're not. And we all know that Jerry
does it in the Everything he does is in a
big fashion sense. It's America's team. When it came time
to it, and people was like, old snap, that's about
to get traded. Oh, Zach Martin, a guy that is
arguably one of the best, and some people are best
Cowboys player to ever put on the star had to
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wait and do that, and people were like, oh, Zach's
gonna go. People are gonna line up and do that.
And what did he do. He came out and gave
them iconic deals within their own respect. Now it's up
to the player if they decided to say, hey, I
want to be team friendly. You got guys like Yan
Smith and said he I just want to be here,
but I see what's gonna happen later down the line
and take those deals. And then you got other guys
that said, no, I'm changing the market. Zeke changed the market,
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Dak changed the market. So right now, Michaeh has put
the ball in his court to say whatever I want
to do it. And so if he wants to change
the market in some form of fashion, Cherry's gonna figure
out how to do it. It's just about are we
gonna give him the dollar amount or are we gonna
do it this way? But somehow you're going to be
the guy. It's just about being the guy in the
right way.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Yeah, we all understand he's gonna get paid like that
wasn't the question The thing for me is, but when
you look at all those deals, the Zeke deal, the
Dak deal, all that good stuff, and they waited forever
to get the deals done. How those guys come back
and start the season. You look at Zeke, Yes, he
all said he was running in Cabo, saying that's how
he looked when he came back. Eventually it rolling, but
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it took that much time for him to get rolling.
You look at that how the communication, how the points
was not as high as you know, we wanted to
see from the Cowboys coming out the gate. I mean,
I get it, you get the views and all that
good stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
When it comes to the Cowboys organization, it's just I mean,
why I would you do that.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Let's take our final break. Let's take our final break
when we come back.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I do want to ask you guys a question about
how does this look from the outside end. There's other
free agents that may be looking down the line and saying,
is Dallas a place that I want to go? Are
there are other players on this team that are like,
you know, you got guys like Tyler Smith who's coming
up with a contract. Is he look at it and saying, man,
I I don't want to go through all this next
year when I gotta get my money right. So from
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an outside perspective, we'll kind of break down how does
this look for the Cowboys, how they handle their star players?
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Speaker 4 (32:33):
Be on the big money.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Barry got Demontree Moore me.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
So we got Anthony Dorsett and we're we're talking about
this Mica situation. This is the topic of discussion. I
had some other things planned as I was driving up
here today and then that news hit and it was
like all hell broke, lose, don't nothing else matter. And
this is a pattern that the Cowboys have had when
it comes to playing their star players.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
But this is played out in front of everybody.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
These shots that they taken at Micah and that digs
and hell. Terrence Steele was sitting at the crib eating
the chicken pop pie and they take a shot at him.
They backed the bus up on him, and King of
got contracts and paying players that probably don't deserve contracts.
And then now you're looking at argu the best defensive
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player in the league, and he has come to a
point where he said, I'm done. I washed my hands
with this situation. I no longer want to be a
Dallas Cowboys because of their inability to treat me how
I'm supposed to be treated.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
That taking shots at me.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
They won't negotiate with my agent, they try to back
me into a corner of these conversations in these rooms
at the super Bowl, at all these different events that
they had. I want to ask you guys a question,
because playing for outside teams and being in this league
on the outside peripheral.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
How does this look?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
How does this look if you're a guy and you're
a pending free agent, this is the year that you're looking.
You know, you're saying, man, this is my last year
in this deal. Whatever current team I'm on, Maybe I
am too. Like Micah, a Dallas Cowboys fan, my family
is I've always wanted.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
To giving me this look?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Are there they are outside free agents? Are players on.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
This team I e.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Tyler Smith, Deron Bland, Guys who have contracts coming up?
Are they looking at this bike the situation and saying,
you know what, Doug, I don't want no part of that.
That organization. I know the name is dead and the
star is dead, but they ain't. They haven't won much
in thirty years, and now this is how they're treating
their star player, Dematra. You give me the faceh I'm
gonna I'm gonna let you rock out first.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
This is Kermit the Frog. Mean, if you ain't yeh man,
that is their business and I'm gonna sip my tea
at the end of the day. Like for guys that
are in the organization, sure you might feel a little
personal because it's like you work with this guy. If
it's anybody that deserves it. Sure, but also you're taking
a look and saying a step back, like if you're
being realistic and if your agent is being realistic for
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free agents, guys that are listening to me or not
or whatever, if it goes viral or not, like know
your worth and know your value. But also with that
being said, like it's gonna happen. The shield is the shield.
Recruiting is recruiting. Let's not get it twisted. This is
still America's team. This is still the most valuable team
and franchise out of all thirty two teams. People will
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take less money just to come here so they can
hopefully be the star on the field and realize it.
As you mentioned earlier, the different brand deals, everything that's
come along with it. You think, Micah, like you said
Bleacher Report, Micah has cornerstone that corner, like Jerry has
mentioned it in the past, like he's helped all his guys.
Whatever you want to get into, we can help you
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get there. So they are sitting there saying like, oh, yeah,
they're playing hardball. But at the end of the day,
like Nui said, the facts are there. Their guys get
paid just like anywhere else, they get paid, and nobody's
looking at that. You're gonna sit there and be like,
not me, I'm gonna do this, and that I'm gonna
take less money. I ain't gonna play as hardball. And
guess what, when you're a record breaking guy, it's gonna
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take a lot longer. Everybody doesn't get paid when they
want to get paid. Some guys get paid a little
bit early in this and that. But guess what. They
left some chicken out there, They left some skin on
the bones, some meat there. Well, guess what right now, Mike,
I already told you he said I'm not taking this
and that I'm gonna get paid what I want to.
So for him to get paid like that, it's gonna
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take time. And so for him to get there with
those other guys in those free agents, they're gonna sit
there and say, well, shoot, they gave him that bag.
I know they got the bread over there. Hey, that's
America's team. I know I can get this money off
the field. So people are still gonna want to play
for the start. It doesn't affect it.
Speaker 8 (36:46):
Just thinking about the names that you mentioned who have
all gone through this, and it seems like they were
all cowboy draft picks.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Okay, Yeah, that's one thing all right.
Speaker 8 (36:55):
So in that they've gone through their first contract with
the team and now they're working on their second, know
what I mean, it may be their biggest one. Free
agents they ain't just chasing cast they chasing championships as well,
you know what I mean. And so it depends on
what God we're talking about. He Jesse mentioned Cowboys ain't
done nothing almost thirty years, you know, but pay some people,
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but they haven't won any championships. So as a free agent,
if I'm looking at the opportunity, and it depends on
what I'm chasing, okay, from chasing the bag, not worried
about winning the championship or anything else like that, And
I'm looking at, say some longevity as far as off
the field things. And I know what this platform of
the start can do for me. Oh yeah, I'm definitely
interested in it. But if I'm chasing the bag and
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I'm chasing championships, as a free agent, looking at this
situation here, like I'm knowing that I may come here
from another team and have one deal here likely because
that second deal here may be the hardest thing for
me to ever get going, and somebody else may be
able to pay me equal or close to it with
less headache and may be able to get me to
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a better winning situation as well. So it just like Jesse, Yes,
as a free agent, it would honestly depend on what
I needed, what I wanted. And then I'm breaking down
the structure of the team. Is this the championship team?
What can we actually do with this team?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
But you proved, but you proved my points exactly what
I'm saying that it's all the other outside stuff that
proves and has the implication on what the original question was.
Does this situation affect free agency? It's not. It's about
what I said, the money, the brand, this and that,
what you said, championships, rings and stuff like that, like
Micah's situation.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
You don't think that a free agent sitting at home
watching this is like saying like.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Circus. There's certain people, Yeah, but everybody has a circus
within theirselves, whether it's with a guy getting paid on time,
a guy going to quote unquote a losing organization, and
this and that. We all know if you're a playmaker,
you're gonna change it. If you're a bad getter, you're
gonna go get this bag. Like, yeah, there's gonna be
some guys that might take it personal. The guys that
have already made their money and stuff like that. Those vets. Yeah,
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they might say, hey, I don't want to go with
the headache, so I'm not going to do that. But
those are the guys that made their money, the guys
that haven't got their back yet, they're gonna sit there
and be like, it's America's team. I'm trying to get it,
like everybody, what does every player do when we all
came into the league. We can change an organization. We
can change that, Like why not us? We're already anomaly
by getting drafted and doing all these other things. I
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look at it where I'm betting on myself and saying, oh,
they wouldn't do me like that, because I'm gonna come
in here and do this or do that.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
In a different standpoint, I'm just saying free agents, everybody
that's a free agent ain't got money.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
And everybody that's a free agent it may have some
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
So what it boils down to, and what I'm trying
to stick to is just a simple fact of like,
as I'm sitting at home observing how they're treating their
players that they've drafted that they supposed to already be
in love with.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
I ain't part of that draft. They don't have no
reason to love me.
Speaker 8 (39:58):
But for my production, I haven't been in that organization
for a number of years.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
They haven't seen me day in and day out, show.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
Up, put my leadership to the to the to the
point to the front of the everything that's going on,
you know what I mean. And so as guys sit
back and they watch all this, no, it's it's a
turnoff to a lot of dudes.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
It definitely would be.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah, you know, and perceptions, perceptions, everything is to have
that half glass mentality, is it full or is it not?
Like you said, I think I definitely agree with you
as far as saying, there's gonna be some guys that
are going to be turned off in that thing. But
when it comes to talking to your contracts, those guys
are typically the guys that's already made their money. The
guys just say, hey, I can go over here and
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do this and do that before a guy that is
sitting there talking to x's and those you're agent is
saying get over there. And not everybody gets heartball like
this with the cowboys when it comes to contract negotiation. Hell,
they just paid the tight end. We didn't see it
coming like that. Like there have been guys now outside.
Speaker 8 (40:59):
The tight that was hit their guy, but that doesn't
have the amount of production, notoriety, leadership or anything like
like Micah has that on this team.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
That's why I said, And then we.
Speaker 8 (41:12):
Talked earlier about you guys mentioned everybody else from Dak
to Daz to all these dudes who have been in
here put their best foot forward and still had to
go through the whole fight and everything else to just
get what they deserve, you know what I mean. And
everybody didn't break the market or set the market. Some
of these dudes got what the market was given. And
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if it's that hard, like I mean, if I'm Jerry negotiating,
I see TJ White out there, I know what I
got in my house right now. You know why let
somebody else go set the market for you?
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Of course, I mean business wise you say that, but
you're also now that's where it's above our pay grade.
But your pride and egos getting into the way, that's
where you are. I'm not going to say pride to ego,
but that's where different. Who's gonna stick to their guns
and say this and that and if I'm Jerry in
my position and stuff like that, I'm the reason that
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the organization has gotten to where it is being worth
the amount of money that is worth me paying the
players like that, I'm gonna stick to my guns because
guess what I'm gonna beat most likely guess what, who's
gonna be here when you're going who was here before
you got here? Who brought this here? So I'm gonna
stand on that, just like a player gonna sit there
and say, hey, I'm standing on my resume like this
is what I did. And both of them are having
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a stale match. But guess what, you got two big
horses that are round in each other. We don't know
what's gonna happen. Who's gonna give first, and that's what
it is. But we all know that whenever it gives
and that Levy breaks, it's gonna break. Because the Brins
trucks is rolling in. There's gonna be some type of
deal or something that I'm telling you he might not
have ownership, but he's gonna have some big land out there.
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And prosper Texas by Universal Studios.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Well, the Cowboys will be back at practice tomorrow. They
had a day off today, and boy talking about dropping
some news on your day off. He ain't get fired
the day off, drop some news on your day off.
And I thank you guys for allowing me to join
you today while Newie is in ox Star California. Yeah,
mister mister noble himself. And uh, I think I may
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be back next week because I think so. I think
Newie still might be.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
He still don't might be.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Yeah, he said, he said he was gonna be there
until the game. So okay, next week, what Tuesday and Thursday?
There you go.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
They'll be back with you guys, Tuesday and Thursday next week. Yes,
so hopefully we'll have something more productive to talk about. Well,
we're gonna get into training camp and players and things
of that nature. But I appreach you God to let
me hackle you. Uh, Anthonys Demontree.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Barry Church for Newie, Scrugs for Paul, I'm Jesse holly Man.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
And the soap opera continues.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
It continues, and we'll see what the hell happens over
the weekend.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Micah has dropped.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
The big joker. We'll see what the response of the
Jones family is. But we'll be here back here on
the players Lounge next week. Thank you guys for joining us.
We'll see you next time right there.
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Speaker 3 (01:07):
As of about fifteen minutes ago, bombshell news has come down.
We thought there was gonna be a chill and easy Friday.
We was gonna come here do what we do.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
He's having a hell up out of here about it
during the weekend.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
And they got the day off out there too as well.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So yeah, until Michael Parson said, old contrail on to me,
I got a little something for y'all. We've known the
back and forth that they've been having Michael with the
whole day, and then he dropped the big He dropped
this is the big joke of today. He dropped the
joke of the day. And Michael Parson has formerly requested
a trade from the Dallas Cowboys. He has come to
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his wits end with this hold out. He has come
to his wits end with the shots being taken at him.
He has come to his wits end without the ownership
contacting his agent, and he said, I'm out, I'm done,
I'm finished.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I want to be traded.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
We got Newie Scruggs boots on the ground in Oxnarth, California.
We're gonna go to Newie and Newie. Give me your thoughts.
What are you hearing? Did you see this coming? Did
you foresee this happening?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
This is some big news coming from franchise player.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
It's big news. But it's not the first time that
you've seen a player frustrated with negotiations with Jerry Jones.
The first Dallas Cowboys training camp I ever covered nineteen
ninety three and Mitt Smith was not there. Andmm Smith
that led the league in rushing and they won the
Super Bowl at Jerry Jones adamant about how much he
wanted to pay him, and he was trying to pay
him under what he paid Jerry Jones. And it was
the first two games what happened, Emitt got signed. This
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is a part of how Jerry does business. Ceed laand
went through it last year. Dak Prescott went through it.
Zach Martin held.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Out just two years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
He was trying to make sure.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
He got his money straight. And at the end of
the day, the great players Jerry wants, they all signed.
All of them signed. I'm here in Los Angeles Kobe
Bryant and told Jerry Buss, then trade me. Jerry Buss
is like, no, I'm not trading. He finished his career
with the Lakers. He won two more championships after the trade.
Lamar Jackson he wanted to out of Baltimore. They resigned him.
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He won an MVP. It's now just Micah's turn here
in the blender. Guys, it's there, Okay, it's gonna happen
at some point in time. He's under contract, so they
don't have to pay him. They're not going to get
rid of him. This is his move. It's going to
get a lot of publicity. We're gonna talk about it,
but at the end of the day, Jerry Jones is
gonna give Micah's money and he'll be a cowboy and
then they'll hug and everything else and be just fine.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Now he's one hundred percent correct on this one. Like
you said, you know, Jerry hasn't lost a superstar via
free agency. Let him walk in who knows how long,
And this is this situation is not going to change
when it comes to Michael Parsons. He's done everything correct
in my opinion as far as this whole negotiation thing
is concerned. I mean, he's there throughout all OTA's mini camp.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
He showed up the camp.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
He's been that consummate leader you know for this team,
whether it's on the field or off the field, doesn't
get in trouble at any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And he's done everything correct.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Since he stepped into the the Dallas Cowboys organization. I mean,
this is a oka ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, what's going on, knew he just hit it on that.
This is a pattern, this is the blueprint. This is
under the.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Cowboys have done for a long time. But if you've noticed,
they've taken a little bit more of a frustrating approach
this time around when it comes to Micah. Could this
be I'm just I'm this is a Reckie speccy. I'm
just throwing it out there. Could this be the moment
in time where Jerry goes enough? The Ages got me
(04:39):
figured out. They know if they just waited out that
we're gonna bend over and we're gonna pay them and
give them all the things that they want, all the years,
all the no trade clauses, all of the guarantees that
they want.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Could this possibly be the moment where Stephen and Jerry go.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Man?
Speaker 7 (04:59):
If they do that, it would probably be, you know,
one of the worst decisions and organization has made in
NFL history. I mean, I'm this this. If they say
is enough, I don't want to. I don't want to,
you know, deal with this anymore. We're gonna make him,
you know, fulfill the whole contract. This is you're talking
about the best player in your organization, on your team,
(05:20):
the best one of the top three defensive players, maybe
the best depending on who you're talking to in the
National Football League. This is a game changer. This is
not a guy that just puts up sack numbers. This
is a guy that can change the fortunes of your franchise.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And so for you to sit there and say, you
know what this is, this is it. I'm done.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
I don't have enough. I paid this guy, paid this guy,
paid this guy, you know, and start with Micah as
the guy that you know you're gonna chock your hands with.
I feel like that would be one of the worst
decisions ever made.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I get it because I might be a little missing informed.
But when you said wipe your hands with it, from
my understanding, you're saying, maybe the deal is taken so
long because Jerry is about to finally do the whole
give him every thing that he wants to put the opposite, Okay,
I just want to make sure because okay, okay, yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Giving you everything you want like I've done before the.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Past, to all your Okay, Well, then in that case,
then you're right. I My sentiments are the same with you,
because I do feel like you're doing a disservice for
it to be the one person that has done everything statistically,
they're off the field, he's like he's a voice. And
then for him not to be a quarterback and have
command such a market the way that he does with
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his media, being a president in the community and being
that person like this is the time for you to say, hey,
do what You're not gonna have buyers remorse like the
Cleveland Browns had with Deshaun Watson or the narrative that's
being painted right now that you have buyer's remarks with
Trayvon Dick. If there's anybody that has proven that they're
the guy right now, this will be the time for
(06:52):
you to say, hey, let me go ahead and do
what Jerry does in a big fashion. And like I said,
it's above my pray grade, but somebody that actually deserves it.
The only other person I could think of in NFL
history like this, And just maybe I'm biased and doing
my recent tenure, but I want to say Aaron Donald
is the only other person that is deserving as far
as putting up the stats off the field and doing
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all those things. So yes, this is the time to
break the market by not maybe giving him the bank,
but making do something that's gonna make him feel special
and that he earned it. Because that dog is hungry,
he's ready to get there, and now that he's displaying
his frustration, we're seeing that I'm not mad at him
for doing that, because he's been playing chess and not
checkers this whole time. But this last move, it was
(07:34):
a little bit of a checker's move. So let's hope
that Jerry has a checker's reaction. So it's like this happened.
This happened, so we could go ahead and be happy
about it. But like Nui said, everybody gets paid and
everybody is always happy at the end of the deal.
We've seen it with De Bryan and the rest of
the thing.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
All right, let me throw this in here, guys, let
me throw this something Steven Jones has said for you
many many years now, deadlines. Think about that deal. When
did he get done? Right before they play the first
game at the end of the day. They know as
you get closer towards the season, Michael wants to play.
(08:12):
He's a guy that wants to play, and he's gonna
This is when you can put the squeeze and get
all this stuff done. They know what they're doing. The
franchise is the most valuable in the world. They gonna
get it done. This is Michael's party's frustration. He could
be mad and Jerry can sit up here all day
long and say what they've been saying. Hey man, he
had a contract this year for like twenty four million
dollars and gotta go nowhere. You got to play here.
(08:35):
And if you can't just sit out, because it's not
like you can sit out and get in the years
are cured. You know, he's not gonna go out and
miss out on this money. He doesn't want to lose
a year and not put a statistics. They're playing this game.
At the end of the day, it's just gonna get done.
And Mugga Letta will get a great deal because you
know what all these agents do, and Moga Letter is
a great negotiators. Not one age in the NFL right now.
(08:56):
It's just gonna have a guy we're talking about is
good stuff. Jerry like to everybody talk about the Cowboys. YadA, YadA, YadA.
It's gonna get done.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That's my people, real quick.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Why but why wait?
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Why put your your franchise at risk for having a
slow start by having one of your best players, your gain,
your game changer, not be ready when the season starts.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Why wait till the last minute.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
To get the deal with the new for the new
defensive coordinator right with a new defensive court. I don't know,
but you know they did it last year with CDL.
This is just how they do it. Man, It's just
I'm with you, but this is just how they do business.
And once again, when you got the most valuable franchise
in the world, clearly you know what you're doing because
you're just making money.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Left over, right, And yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Sometimes good they doing a Netflix special on you either, right.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
And I mean, and we've talked about everybody that has
been in the blender like new he likes to say,
but that doesn't mean it's the right way to go
about doing business. And at some point in time, you know,
like everybody in the in the locker room is supposed
to be treated the same, but everybody does not get
the same treatment.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Okay, And.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
There was something said a just read it just a
second ago where it said that Stephen Jones said, Mike
and needs to act like he wants to be paid. Well,
what has he done doctor the years playing here, being
at everything from OTA's being at the offseason conditioning program,
actually holding in a camp as well, you know what
I mean. So when you look at it, like at
(10:20):
some point in time, you have to do something a
little bit different from time to time. Everybody does not
need to be negotiated the same way. And like we
noticed Trellis, we fall in love with this game as
children at an early age. There's no business involved in
it at all. The Joneses are what they're businessmen by trade.
We're football players, we're athletes by trade. We want to
(10:41):
get back to what's normal to us. We want to
be in a comfortable position. Like Church said, why would
you have this man who is literally at camp but
not participating.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
And typically what happens.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
When that guy comes back from a holdouts what some
type of soft tissue type of injury.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Okay, so now what was going on? We're looking at
the second week.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Of okay, and he's not participated, he's not in these drills.
He's actually not getting getting to tend a chance to play.
So at this point Michaeh has to also protect his
best interests as well, and uh and make sure that
he's really ready to go when that when when, and
hopefully when that contract is done.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
And ready to go, you go something all right, Fellas,
I gotta head over here. I'm trying to talk to somebody,
right now over here, knock, start to see where I
can get done for somebody, get back.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
To work, but not to be the dead. We all
agree with it, and I know I'm about to get
killed by the fans. Be gentle. Everybody that I'm talking
to one is the player's lounge. We all have a
player's perspective. So yes, we all agree Michael should be
paid and if there's anybody that should be paid, it
(11:50):
should be done right now. But also the point of
players lounge is to give you that other side of it,
that inside school and somebody has the place devil advocate.
And so if I'm the if I'm owning the team,
if I want it to be a GM, like, I'm
gonna be real with you, I'm gonna have buyers remorse too,
especially all the guys that I pay. When you think
of deals like a Ezekiel Elliott deal, when you think
(12:12):
of a deal like a Trayvon Diggs deal that's going on, like, yeah,
I'm gonna sit there and say, man, hey, did I
really maximize that deal? Did you deserve that? But in
the same bread basket, you have guys like Zach Martin,
Tyron Smith, Daz Bryant that earned their contracts and stuff
like that. So from a business perspective, we know the
shield is bigger than anything. The shield is always gonna win.
(12:33):
And just like some organizations, I tell you right now,
one they might get mad about it, but I bet
you the Browns organization is mad about all the money
that they spend on DeShawn and sitting there doing that.
So when you have situations like that, and overall, speaking
in the long term of things, people messing up contracts,
it's like, I don't want to do that. But like
I said, with that being said, anybody that's proven that
(12:54):
he's done it, it deserves to be Micah. But I
understand this is a business. Let's not forget that. Like
we're paying, we're playing a child's game for a king's ransom.
You think that I'm not about to go invest up
make somebody one hundred million dollar type guy a two
hundred million dollar type guy, or maybe potentially even we
know Jerry, when he loves his guys, he loves setting
(13:15):
the market, he might even give him potential ownership in that.
Mike is a smart guy, Like he's gonna sit there
and say let me do something. He ain't gonna give him.
But I did but touch Jones, But no way with
him being who he is in the media market, you
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don't think Jerry's gonna sit there and say, hey, I
own the NFL network, let me give your own TV
show or some backdoor deal. There's some land, there's something
like he's going to make it special, and so it's
just about, hey, how can you do it? And you know,
we all know mister Jones when he's getting ready to
get right there, he has two or three people saying
slow down, don't do this, and do that. So my
question is who's pulling the rings?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I think on the business side of things, we've come
such long way, right like when you talk about the
media part of it, right like Mike is the president
of bleacher Report. You know what I'm saying, He's the
president of that sector of bleacher Report. It's it's not
so singular focused where one people one person, or small
(14:19):
where people control those type of things. Mike is such
a big name that he's going to be have options
to do anything with everything. And because he was associated
with the Star, not not that he has to get
it from the Star or the people that own the Star.
Because of his his greatness, and it being in this uniform.
(14:40):
The phone calls happen, man, the emails get returned, so
those type of things. It is he trust me. He's
not at Bleacher Parot by accident. Okay, Bleacher Report says,
you're tied to that franchise. We're gonna give you the
bag to do that, and forever, forever, forever, we'll keep
giving you the back. So I mean the business part
of it, I think a lot of people know. And
(15:01):
here's also where your representation comes in. We're talking about
now the Battle of the Forbes, right, We're talking about
the Forest Battle. We're talking about Jerry Jones and the
Cowboys being the number one franchise in Forbes evaluation. And
we're talking about now David malu Getta being the number
one agent and all the.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Sports already a million over and negotiating contracts this year.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
So David hasn't figured out like he hasn't figured out,
and he's going to have a plan set up for
Micah that's going to take whatever he makes now and
make him a lot of money for a lot of years.
So it's just it's it's we've come to a different
place now where you don't need the team to set
you up for greatness. Mike is a big enough entity
(15:41):
on his own that he's going to get all the
brand deals that he wants and he needs. And he
is a person who doesn't come with the checkered pass
because a lot of times, you know, you don't you
don't get you don't get the green dollars from the
white people when you got a checker pass right Scared
they don't want everything. They don't want to they got it.
They're scared to deal with you or what you may bring.
(16:03):
They're not bringing the back to you fact, you know
what I'm saying. And Micah doesn't. Michael while he has
this thing that he says in the media, that's the media,
that's words, he doesn't have anything on his ledger that
says this is a guy who we can't give one
hundred million dollars you know, media distribution deal to You.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
He's checked every box that you can think of when
it comes to that. Like when I think of players
like Michaeh, I can't help but think of Dion when
he was playing if that makes sense, Like to have
that magnitude of effect on the media market, go out
there put the results down there. But the difference between
him and the Deon Sanders effect, he has a certain
(16:39):
humbleness about him like that. He's been showing like, hey,
I'm the guy. I want to be here. He's saying
all the right answers. And so for him to be
in that that that position right now, he's played everything right.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
I believe that, you know, and part of negotiations with
him having when the top agents was for that was
all in negotiation tactic for.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Him to hold in to begin with.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
You know, I definitely think that they was probably trying
to see how much leverage they had up front, how
soon it could actually get done with him actually being
in the presence. Okay, hey, go out there, had those conversations.
You know what I'm saying, talk, see where Jerry coming from.
Report back to me, let me know what's cracking, and
everything else like that.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
But now that we're.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
At this place here, okay, and it ain't no budget,
ain't nothing else happening. You know, I keep running my mouth,
I'm saying all the right stuff while I'm running it, though,
but it's no progress being made. So you know, I'm
like Michaeh, like how much longer do I need that
It's not even about me saying I want to be
(17:39):
off the team. How much longer do I have to
keep sitting here watching and not being able to participate
and trying to be a part of this team?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (17:48):
So I feel where he's coming from. I understand, but
I definitely think that him going to camp was part
of their negotiation tactics as well.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
All right, let's take our first break and we'll get
back to this conversation. If you're just hearing this, Michael
Parsons has formerly requested the trade from the Dallas Cowboys.
This is the player's lows. We'll continue this discussion on
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the conversation that we had in the first segment. Michael
Parson has formally requested the trade for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
He had a long, long.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Message, and to summarize some of it, he said, I
am tired of going with the back and forth. I
negotiated in good faith. I thought I was having a
conversation on leadership. A conversation about contracts came about. I
thought we were just talking. The jones took that as
bible and said that was it. And he said, my
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agent has tried over and over and over again to
get in contact with the Joneses to know avail that
they haven't been able.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
To do anything.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
He says, as of today, there has not been negotiations
with the Joneses and his agent, David malu Guetta. And
at this point he has said, and he being Michael Parsons,
I want out is would this be the biggest Would
(22:24):
this be the biggest trade I don't know, will this
be the biggest trade request that we've seen last ten
fifteen years when you think about in the National Football.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
League, I mean, I don't even think anybody goes close
to this when you talk about it. I mean, even
though he got a racket brain a little bit to
think about it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
But man, we're talking about a guy that's a.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Perennial not pro bowler, but perennial All Pro player, like
like similar to like you said, if it was Aaron
Donald or something that was just like, nah, I need
a trade request like that. That's the type of impact
this guy as on this team. And so to me, man,
it would be wild to steal something that I'm gonna
(23:06):
send this to you, and to steal something that that
that Demontre said talking about playing Devil's advocate.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Is there is.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
There any any any goodness that because you're gonna get
a king's ransom, right, Anthony, If you trade Michael Parsons,
you're going to get a king's ransom, right. I would
hope now you might be like Nico and them down
there with the Dallas Mavericks and not get what we
get for a star player. But this is just we're
having a conversation, right, We're having a conversation. This is
(23:35):
the lounge, Anthony. Could you see a scenario where if
you traded Michael Parsons you could get back a hall
that could bring you enough pieces to come back kind
of Almo like the Herschel Walker trade back.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
In the day. I was about to say, give you.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Get this team over the eye.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
I mean, respectfully, that's what you would want, you know
what I'm saying, But there's no guarantee in the production
that you're gonna get coming back in the building. You
already know what you might let go proving, and not
at the peak of his career.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yet, twenty six years old, young.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
He getting better, he learned the new past rush moves.
All right, He's not even as strong as he's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
He ain't even his grown man strength yet.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
So when you look at it from that standpoint, like, yeah,
you would hope that that ransom would give you that
and then some, but there's no guarantee to that. And
so you know, when I got what's proven in my hand,
I'm not too worried about what I don't know what's
in my other hand.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
All righty know I got with the proof right here.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
So with that, you know, nah, man, like as much
talk as we're doing about it, and I understand he
wants to trade, and I can't see them letting that happen.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I just can't see it.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
It ain't gonna happen. It's really not like Jerry don't
let his players go. But like you said, for Devil's advocates,
so we're not like every other show, every other podcast.
So we know he wants to get paid. We know
he's the cleanest person in history that we're talking about,
at least in my opinion as far as checking all
the boxes, that deserves that bag. But nobody is above
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the shield, and I repeat, nobody is above it. So
like if you trade him, you can be in a
situation where you be like Miami Dawks and they stack
up on all them first round picks and then all
of a sudden you get a long haul in. We've
seen it and damaka ensue that was the cornerstone for
the Lions, and all of a sudden he went down
there to Miami and the pick of his career and
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still was like doing numbers if we're saying that. So
there are people that can get traded. You know, obviously
Michael's wade cleaner. We don't think it's going to happen.
But if you trade him, you don't think that an
organization that's stockpiled like the Browns or something that got
all these first round picks just sitting in their back pocket.
Here you go, that's fur first round pick. We're gonna
pay him. As a matter of fact, here, we'll take
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this right here and give you that. They'll do that
for a perennial guy like you said, that's not even
in his peak. So if if the business people and
them Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, and whoever else that the
powers may be decided to entertain this trade idea, you
will see one of those blockbuster deals where you're like,
there's no way a franchise let them go. Nobody ever
(26:21):
thought of. The Broncos will let go of von Miller
right and his and his prime like that they let
the colaborators with Khalil Mack. You go to. You think
about when DeMarcus where he wasn't in his prime, but
he was still giving you prime talent right there, and
we let him go and he went and got a
Super Bowl right there. So the right one man's trash
is another man's treasure.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
Like they used to say, these other organizations, they would
definitely you know Parson was over here. You know four
first round is whatever the case may be, they would
do that.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
But my thing is.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
When you with the cow when you at the Cowboys situation,
you got the quarterback, right, you got the quarterback that
that you want. You got the quarterback, You got the
receiver c lamb all right, you got you got the
corners on the back if they come in health, you
got the corners. You got the d lineman in Michael
Parsons the edge.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
We just paid somebody those are.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Don't do that, man, No, don't.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
I don't want to I don't want to go. You
got the cornerstone pieces. You got the cornerstone pieces already there.
Why give away that cornerstone piece for like you said,
some unproving this.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
They're not. They're not. And we all know that Jerry
does it in the Everything he does is in a
big fashion sense. It's America's team. When it came time
to it, and people was like, old snap, that's about
to get traded. Oh, Zach Martin, a guy that is
arguably one of the best, and some people are best
Cowboys player to ever put on the star had to
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wait and do that, and people were like, oh, Zach's
gonna go. People are gonna line up and do that.
And what did he do. He came out and gave
them iconic deals within their own respect. Now it's up
to the player if they decided to say, hey, I
want to be team friendly. You got guys like Yan
Smith and said he I just want to be here,
but I see what's gonna happen later down the line
and take those deals. And then you got other guys
that said, no, I'm changing the market. Zeke changed the market,
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Dak changed the market. So right now, Michaeh has put
the ball in his court to say whatever I want
to do it. And so if he wants to change
the market in some form of fashion, Cherry's gonna figure
out how to do it. It's just about are we
gonna give him the dollar amount or are we gonna
do it this way? But somehow you're going to be
the guy. It's just about being the guy in the
right way.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Yeah, we all understand he's gonna get paid like that
wasn't the question The thing for me is, but when
you look at all those deals, the Zeke deal, the
Dak deal, all that good stuff, and they waited forever
to get the deals done. How those guys come back
and start the season. You look at Zeke, Yes, he
all said he was running in Cabo, saying that's how
he looked when he came back. Eventually it rolling, but
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it took that much time for him to get rolling.
You look at that how the communication, how the points
was not as high as you know, we wanted to
see from the Cowboys coming out the gate. I mean,
I get it, you get the views and all that
good stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
When it comes to the Cowboys organization, it's just I mean,
why I would you do that.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Let's take our final break. Let's take our final break
when we come back.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I do want to ask you guys a question about
how does this look from the outside end. There's other
free agents that may be looking down the line and saying,
is Dallas a place that I want to go? Are
there are other players on this team that are like,
you know, you got guys like Tyler Smith who's coming
up with a contract. Is he look at it and saying, man,
I I don't want to go through all this next
year when I gotta get my money right. So from
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an outside perspective, we'll kind of break down how does
this look for the Cowboys, how they handle their star players?
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Be on the big money.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Barry got Demontree Moore me.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
So we got Anthony Dorsett and we're we're talking about
this Mica situation. This is the topic of discussion. I
had some other things planned as I was driving up
here today and then that news hit and it was
like all hell broke, lose, don't nothing else matter. And
this is a pattern that the Cowboys have had when
it comes to playing their star players.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
But this is played out in front of everybody.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
These shots that they taken at Micah and that digs
and hell. Terrence Steele was sitting at the crib eating
the chicken pop pie and they take a shot at him.
They backed the bus up on him, and King of
got contracts and paying players that probably don't deserve contracts.
And then now you're looking at argu the best defensive
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player in the league, and he has come to a
point where he said, I'm done. I washed my hands
with this situation. I no longer want to be a
Dallas Cowboys because of their inability to treat me how
I'm supposed to be treated.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
That taking shots at me.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
They won't negotiate with my agent, they try to back
me into a corner of these conversations in these rooms
at the super Bowl, at all these different events that
they had. I want to ask you guys a question,
because playing for outside teams and being in this league
on the outside peripheral.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
How does this look?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
How does this look if you're a guy and you're
a pending free agent, this is the year that you're looking.
You know, you're saying, man, this is my last year
in this deal. Whatever current team I'm on, Maybe I
am too. Like Micah, a Dallas Cowboys fan, my family
is I've always wanted.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
To giving me this look?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Are there they are outside free agents? Are players on.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
This team I e.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Tyler Smith, Deron Bland, Guys who have contracts coming up?
Are they looking at this bike the situation and saying,
you know what, Doug, I don't want no part of that.
That organization. I know the name is dead and the
star is dead, but they ain't. They haven't won much
in thirty years, and now this is how they're treating
their star player, Dematra. You give me the faceh I'm
gonna I'm gonna let you rock out first.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
This is Kermit the Frog. Mean, if you ain't yeh man,
that is their business and I'm gonna sip my tea
at the end of the day. Like for guys that
are in the organization, sure you might feel a little
personal because it's like you work with this guy. If
it's anybody that deserves it. Sure, but also you're taking
a look and saying a step back, like if you're
being realistic and if your agent is being realistic for
(35:06):
free agents, guys that are listening to me or not
or whatever, if it goes viral or not, like know
your worth and know your value. But also with that
being said, like it's gonna happen. The shield is the shield.
Recruiting is recruiting. Let's not get it twisted. This is
still America's team. This is still the most valuable team
and franchise out of all thirty two teams. People will
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take less money just to come here so they can
hopefully be the star on the field and realize it.
As you mentioned earlier, the different brand deals, everything that's
come along with it. You think, Micah, like you said
Bleacher Report, Micah has cornerstone that corner, like Jerry has
mentioned it in the past, like he's helped all his guys.
Whatever you want to get into, we can help you
(35:49):
get there. So they are sitting there saying like, oh, yeah,
they're playing hardball. But at the end of the day,
like Nui said, the facts are there. Their guys get
paid just like anywhere else, they get paid, and nobody's
looking at that. You're gonna sit there and be like,
not me, I'm gonna do this, and that I'm gonna
take less money. I ain't gonna play as hardball. And
guess what, when you're a record breaking guy, it's gonna
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take a lot longer. Everybody doesn't get paid when they
want to get paid. Some guys get paid a little
bit early in this and that. But guess what. They
left some chicken out there, They left some skin on
the bones, some meat there. Well, guess what right now, Mike,
I already told you he said I'm not taking this
and that I'm gonna get paid what I want to.
So for him to get paid like that, it's gonna
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take time. And so for him to get there with
those other guys in those free agents, they're gonna sit
there and say, well, shoot, they gave him that bag.
I know they got the bread over there. Hey, that's
America's team. I know I can get this money off
the field. So people are still gonna want to play
for the start. It doesn't affect it.
Speaker 8 (36:46):
Just thinking about the names that you mentioned who have
all gone through this, and it seems like they were
all cowboy draft picks.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Okay, Yeah, that's one thing all right.
Speaker 8 (36:55):
So in that they've gone through their first contract with
the team and now they're working on their second, know
what I mean, it may be their biggest one. Free
agents they ain't just chasing cast they chasing championships as well,
you know what I mean. And so it depends on
what God we're talking about. He Jesse mentioned Cowboys ain't
done nothing almost thirty years, you know, but pay some people,
(37:18):
but they haven't won any championships. So as a free agent,
if I'm looking at the opportunity, and it depends on
what I'm chasing, okay, from chasing the bag, not worried
about winning the championship or anything else like that, And
I'm looking at, say some longevity as far as off
the field things. And I know what this platform of
the start can do for me. Oh yeah, I'm definitely
interested in it. But if I'm chasing the bag and
(37:38):
I'm chasing championships, as a free agent, looking at this
situation here, like I'm knowing that I may come here
from another team and have one deal here likely because
that second deal here may be the hardest thing for
me to ever get going, and somebody else may be
able to pay me equal or close to it with
less headache and may be able to get me to
(37:59):
a better winning situation as well. So it just like Jesse, Yes,
as a free agent, it would honestly depend on what
I needed, what I wanted. And then I'm breaking down
the structure of the team. Is this the championship team?
What can we actually do with this team?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
But you proved, but you proved my points exactly what
I'm saying that it's all the other outside stuff that
proves and has the implication on what the original question was.
Does this situation affect free agency? It's not. It's about
what I said, the money, the brand, this and that,
what you said, championships, rings and stuff like that, like
Micah's situation.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
You don't think that a free agent sitting at home
watching this is like saying like.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Circus. There's certain people, Yeah, but everybody has a circus
within theirselves, whether it's with a guy getting paid on time,
a guy going to quote unquote a losing organization, and
this and that. We all know if you're a playmaker,
you're gonna change it. If you're a bad getter, you're
gonna go get this bag. Like, yeah, there's gonna be
some guys that might take it personal. The guys that
have already made their money and stuff like that. Those vets. Yeah,
(39:06):
they might say, hey, I don't want to go with
the headache, so I'm not going to do that. But
those are the guys that made their money, the guys
that haven't got their back yet, they're gonna sit there
and be like, it's America's team. I'm trying to get it,
like everybody, what does every player do when we all
came into the league. We can change an organization. We
can change that, Like why not us? We're already anomaly
by getting drafted and doing all these other things. I
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look at it where I'm betting on myself and saying, oh,
they wouldn't do me like that, because I'm gonna come
in here and do this or do that.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
In a different standpoint, I'm just saying free agents, everybody
that's a free agent ain't got money.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
And everybody that's a free agent it may have some
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
So what it boils down to, and what I'm trying
to stick to is just a simple fact of like,
as I'm sitting at home observing how they're treating their
players that they've drafted that they supposed to already be
in love with.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
I ain't part of that draft. They don't have no
reason to love me.
Speaker 8 (39:58):
But for my production, I haven't been in that organization
for a number of years.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
They haven't seen me day in and day out, show.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
Up, put my leadership to the to the to the
point to the front of the everything that's going on,
you know what I mean. And so as guys sit
back and they watch all this, no, it's it's a
turnoff to a lot of dudes.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
It definitely would be.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah, you know, and perceptions, perceptions, everything is to have
that half glass mentality, is it full or is it not?
Like you said, I think I definitely agree with you
as far as saying, there's gonna be some guys that
are going to be turned off in that thing. But
when it comes to talking to your contracts, those guys
are typically the guys that's already made their money. The
guys just say, hey, I can go over here and
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do this and do that before a guy that is
sitting there talking to x's and those you're agent is
saying get over there. And not everybody gets heartball like
this with the cowboys when it comes to contract negotiation. Hell,
they just paid the tight end. We didn't see it
coming like that. Like there have been guys now outside.
Speaker 8 (40:59):
The tight that was hit their guy, but that doesn't
have the amount of production, notoriety, leadership or anything like
like Micah has that on this team.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
That's why I said, And then we.
Speaker 8 (41:12):
Talked earlier about you guys mentioned everybody else from Dak
to Daz to all these dudes who have been in
here put their best foot forward and still had to
go through the whole fight and everything else to just
get what they deserve, you know what I mean. And
everybody didn't break the market or set the market. Some
of these dudes got what the market was given. And
(41:34):
if it's that hard, like I mean, if I'm Jerry negotiating,
I see TJ White out there, I know what I
got in my house right now. You know why let
somebody else go set the market for you?
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Of course, I mean business wise you say that, but
you're also now that's where it's above our pay grade.
But your pride and egos getting into the way, that's
where you are. I'm not going to say pride to ego,
but that's where different. Who's gonna stick to their guns
and say this and that and if I'm Jerry in
my position and stuff like that, I'm the reason that
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the organization has gotten to where it is being worth
the amount of money that is worth me paying the
players like that, I'm gonna stick to my guns because
guess what I'm gonna beat most likely guess what, who's
gonna be here when you're going who was here before
you got here? Who brought this here? So I'm gonna
stand on that, just like a player gonna sit there
and say, hey, I'm standing on my resume like this
is what I did. And both of them are having
(42:32):
a stale match. But guess what, you got two big
horses that are round in each other. We don't know
what's gonna happen. Who's gonna give first, and that's what
it is. But we all know that whenever it gives
and that Levy breaks, it's gonna break. Because the Brins
trucks is rolling in. There's gonna be some type of
deal or something that I'm telling you he might not
have ownership, but he's gonna have some big land out there.
(42:52):
And prosper Texas by Universal Studios.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Well, the Cowboys will be back at practice tomorrow. They
had a day off today, and boy talking about dropping
some news on your day off. He ain't get fired
the day off, drop some news on your day off.
And I thank you guys for allowing me to join
you today while Newie is in ox Star California. Yeah,
mister mister noble himself. And uh, I think I may
(43:19):
be back next week because I think so. I think
Newie still might be.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
He still don't might be.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Yeah, he said, he said he was gonna be there
until the game. So okay, next week, what Tuesday and Thursday?
There you go.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
They'll be back with you guys, Tuesday and Thursday next week. Yes,
so hopefully we'll have something more productive to talk about. Well,
we're gonna get into training camp and players and things
of that nature. But I appreach you God to let
me hackle you. Uh, Anthonys Demontree.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Barry Church for Newie, Scrugs for Paul, I'm Jesse holly Man.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
And the soap opera continues.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
It continues, and we'll see what the hell happens over
the weekend.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Micah has dropped.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
The big joker. We'll see what the response of the
Jones family is. But we'll be here back here on
the players Lounge next week. Thank you guys for joining us.
We'll see you next time right there.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
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