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Today mister Anthony Dorset Junior. You know what I'm saying. Hey, look, look,
I know we've been waiting to get into this.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Cowboys what they do last night they got back on
that w right So now we're on the right track
right now. You know, Cowboys won the game last night,
of course, beating the Vegas Raiders in Vegas thirty one
to sixteen.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And it looked pretty good last night.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I mean I'm looking at the stats, I'm looking at everything.
The new guys that came in last night. You know,
we got two new dudes on the defense that we
just got in town, Quinn Williams and Logan Wilson. They
both played a major role in the game last night.
Logan Wilson actually took the most snaps out of any
of the linebackers.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
All right, Quinn Williams came in and what do you do?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
He was able to get his first sack here as
the cowboy and a half one two as well, you
know what I mean. And then not to mention, you know,
we had guys coming back like Kayln Carson who came
back off of ir was able to play every defensive
snap at the dB position. And you know, it just
looked pretty good last night for the guys, you know
what I'm saying, After especially after having a tumultous few
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weeks there's been going on around here, being able to
get good word, being able to.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Get back on that w you know.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
But I'm gonna throw it out to y'all, you know
what I'm saying, And I would really want to know,
start with you, church Y, what did you see that
you like? First of all, let's start with the defense
from the defense.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
That you defensively.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Finally, I saw that that front seven, and that that
defense come alive.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's great when you.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Can get that interior pressure, when you can not you know,
not close the pocket from the outside, but when you
can get that pressure from the inside. And that's what
quarterbacks hey, you know, every quarterback I talked to, they say,
it's all well and good if you guys you know,
can come around the edge and get pressure that way,
because they can step up in the pocket and they
can still go out there and orchestrate the offense. But
when you get that that frontal pressure, like those defensive
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tackles were doing to Geno Smith last night, it makes
things hard and muddies up a lot of stuff out there.
So those defensive tackles definitely came alive. I love what
I saw from Clark, love I saw from quinnin Williams
O Diggy Zoo was able to, you know, come up
there and do some things itself.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
But I loved what I saw from the front seven.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
And then when you look at the secondary, I mean
first time pretty much all season long where you saw
contested contested, like there wasn't guys just running scott free.
Early on, it was a little bit, but as the
game we're on. You saw the communication. You saw that
secondary go out there, and they were contesting pretty much
every past GINO had out there. So I loved what
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I saw from there, But overall, I was just happy
that this team didn't play.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Down to the level of competition.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
You know, they did what they were supposed to do
against a team that you were more talented in that
you were supposed to go out there and stomp on
their next and make sure they knew that they didn't
belong on that field.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And that's exactly what this team did.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
It wasn't like Arizona where they let Bursett come in
there and do his thing or Russell Wilson come in
there and do their thing. They came in there, they
did exactly what they were supposed to do and stomp
the Raiders out less.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Hopefully that continues the rest of the season. Hey Trey,
let me ask you a question.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You know, and you've played, of course on that D line,
and you've moved around from the left side to the
right side, played inside, played outside. What did you see
last night as far as that that made you optimistic
about moving forward? And what we see in Quinn and
Kenny Clark working together and on the outside.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Oh for me.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Man like like Berry said, anytime that you're getting that
interior pressure constantly down your face, it naturally made other
people play better. Like it wasn't just the Quentin Williams
came in for him to do what he did just
one week into the system, right off the back once
I it proved everything that I was saying beforehand. Eberflus
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doesn't have a complex defense. You come in there, it's
four to three y back in help the front. Front end,
helped the back. And last night was the first time
that you've seen the cohesiveness in a long time, since
the New York Jets game when they had five pressure.
This is the first time that you've seen that type
of pressure dial in. And not only that we talk
about Quentin Williams, but we got to talk about some
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people that's already been here. James Houston. He's been the
team sack leader, constant pressure this whole time. Well, now
that he's showing that he's getting those pressures, you got
Kenny Clark inside, you got Quinn Williams.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Demanded the double team.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
It left James Houston with a lot more one on
one rushes to where we've seen him living in the
back and we've seen the young pup coming in there.
He get a safety, he's getting pressure off the head,
like Quentin Williams single handedly changed the dynamic of that.
And then even Logan Wilson like these two new additions
that what leads me optimistic and not even optimistic. That
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leads me going back to what Jerry was saying, I'm
gonna take ebra flues in this foxhole because schematically didn't
nothing change. You got him the weapons to go in.
Now that you then gave the carpenter his tools. Guess
what he's showing what he can do. But it's against
the Raiders, so I don't want to get too excited
about it.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
I want to see.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You got you know, like one thing is that I
know you got it.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Take the small victories any yes, you can definitely try
to build off of.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But Nate going into the offense, socide of the ball.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Now you know what I'm saying, We normally just got
all defensive guys in here, but now that we got
you in here today, tell me what you saw from
as far as with the balance and the play calling
and with the run game and what you saw up
front with guys getting healthy and different people playing on
the offensive line this week.
Speaker 9 (06:21):
You know, I just I like we gave it the
one sack against the great player number nine of yet
that can't Crosby. We gave it that one sack. But
other than that, we didn't have a lot of pressure.
We was balanced with the run. We kept Javonte Williams
a juggernaut, that's what we call it. You kept them active,
you know, and we had other players come in and
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give him a spot check, which I hate. I want
him to get at least twenty five to thirty carricters
a game. We said something off air that needs to
be fixed right now. No more fumbles, No more close
fumbles are fumbles. So that way coach can continue to
believe in you to continue to give you more carries.
Offensive line played okay, they played well enough to beat
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the team that they beat last night. Dak was tremendous
and how he did it once again. And I just
got to compliment our two receivers, yes, sir, and I'm
and I'm talking about the people that say they got
the all twenty two. This guy CD, Thank you, CD,
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thank you, because now Pickings is killing second coach, you
can't put a second guy a second corner of third.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
This dude is killing folks. He's doing what he's supposed to.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
I'm loving how these two receivers are playing together and
playing off each other, that is, and Dak is finding
them and he's looking for like the pre reader is
telling him, c D. I'm sorry, George. Hey, you going again,
and it's working. We did what we were supposed to do. Offensively,
We had a balance attack, We stayed balanced. We didn't
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get Dak hurt. My whole goal is to get back
to the end of the season. And they ran enough
and they had enough play action pass receivers was open.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Uh, Fergie, they keep dogging up.
Speaker 9 (08:16):
Yeah, but Fergie, we're gonna get them five and go
five and go as long as we keep getting touchdown.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Now, Dak was twenty five or thirty three last night,
two hundred and sixty eight yards, four touchdowns, all right.
We had one hundred and fourteen rushing yards. Williams had
was twenty two. Uh, twenty two rushing attempts for ninety
three yards, and.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Uh, you know, like we talked about the balance.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Now, there's been a little bit of a debate we
know about that as far as is George Piggins the
number one or's her number two?
Speaker 7 (08:50):
You know?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And and and we've already talked about like how do
we how do we maneuver the the pass I guess
you could say the passing game to make sure that
both guys are actually get fed.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Now, you know, what where do you go with this
from here?
Speaker 7 (09:05):
To say?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Okay, Now, George had that game last night that he
had CD of course had it, had a pretty good game,
but he didn't have the numbers that George had. Now,
is it a situation here where we definitely have two
one A receivers? Or do we got a one A
and maybe a one B?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Or what? How do you how do y'all see you?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I think when when it goes to this, I think
it's it's kind of both of them are one a's
if you want to put it like that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
They're both number one receivers out there.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
And thank goodness you got a guy and Dak Prescott
who's able to understand that and able to distribute the
football accordingly. And I'm sure he got with them before
the game, whatever the case may be, and got with
that offense and let him know man, if you're open,
I'm gonna get you to ride.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Now, I'm not gonna force nothing out, cause that's that's
old Dak.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
That's that's the old dec where if it ain't CD,
I got to force it.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
He ain't gonna do that.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
No more.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Have you open or you got.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
The one on one opportunity, he gonna go. He gonna
hit you with the football. And that's what you gotta
love about that.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Now.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
We saw in the two previous games Arizona in Denver,
those two games where you know, out of those games
he had one touchdown and three interceptions, you saw that
kind of forcing. You saw that, man, I gotta make
a play, I gotta I gotta put the team on
my back. I gotta go out there and do this.
And you saw what happened with that those interceptions. We
lost those games and it just it just didn't pan out,
and the offense didn't produce like we knew they could
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produced throughout this season. But when you get that bounce
attack like Nate was talking about, you get that run
game going opens up a lot of doors.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
For those receivers on the outside.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
And Dak Prescott has done an amazing job of distributing
the football. Now, if it gets to a point where
one of these casts got you know, ten to fifteen targets,
the other one got two or three, and it's, you know,
a game that's keep going like that, I can see
some you know, some frustration, but I believe you got
the leadership in place to where that won't happen.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
At least I don't see it happening.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Right, We're talking about George Pickens and of course Ceedee Lamb.
Last night, George Pickens had eleven targets, nine of them
he went for forty four. See he had seven targets,
he had five and went for sixty six toward the
sixty six yards and they both scored touchdown. He had
eighteen yard touchdown and uh GP had that thirty seven
yard touchdown where he looked like he definitely knew his
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way to the end zone.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
On that one. To be that thing and be able
to move like that. Man, it's it's wold. He cutting back.
He looking like, you know, one of these shifty running backs,
but the man's six four, two hundred some pounds.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Like man, that's dangerous, dude, that's dangerous.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Man.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
I see that look on your face over there, Bron.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
I'm just saying, I just I just I'm just I'm
just so astonished, like how things can change in a
week or two, because you know when when Jesse Holly
was over there, you know, another offensive guy, and they
was asking about the one A one B. I told y'all, hey,
we got a one A one A and you go
with the hot hand and if you're a smart man,
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you stay with the hot end. Now you talking about like,
oh snap, we just thirt we're gonna distribute it over here,
and we're gonna go over here, and like I'm not
you know, I'm always gonna pull y'all change for saying that.
But like the way that you knew he and everybody
was talking about CD was the for sure number one.
Like he runs the rail tree and he's doing all that,
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and like I said, with George Pickens.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
He just got here. He just got a good guy.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
Dak is doing that, and we're seeing the evolution of Dak,
but we're also seeing the evolution in George, like he's
just now started. Like last night was the first time
you seen him run that route tree a reverse real
wheel route, catch it then go make the cut and
go score a touchdown Like I I'm not gonna say, oh,
I'm gonna pick this guy over that guy, But all
I'm gonna say is that he's opening up the offense
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because even when you don't have those two guys, well,
you just have the thread of those two guys. Yes,
CD didn't have the numbers last night, but when he
did get it, he was effective. George was effected to
where we seen Flanora go out there and is making
a name for himself to where he gonna demand the
bag at the end of the season. You got Fergie
over here saying I showed you why mis Jones gave
me the bag, and it just opens up everything on
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this offense to where it's like wow. So what he said,
I was in a I appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Now.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
If only you would have listened to me on that
ten win thing, you might have really been.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Good time time.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
And secondly, I wasn't here that day. Y'all was going
back and forth on the on the.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
You said it before then, but I'm sorry it was
the other guy.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
You know. The thing about this is good banter. I
love it. Uh Perkins pick excuse me?
Speaker 9 (13:30):
Was in uh Pittsburgh and he had to deal with
double coverage, he had to deal with uh, the best corner,
and he didn't have a quarterback.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
So now he has that, I don't I don't so much.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Worry about who is going to get the ball because
the head coach has already told you.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
You know, I got these plays with CD. I got
these plays for for George. You know, he even got
a little bag for Perkins five and under. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
But the thing is for us to all have been
around one and two receivers and we have a special
deal here. We haven't had this special over two receivers
and one is developing even more, like you say, and George,
we haven't had this when Amari was here and what
was a rookie?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah? Or CD he was too young.
Speaker 9 (14:26):
Yeah, when it's the last time you had two legit
receivers and im and I'm gonna go so far back,
you know, it wasn't even in my time. It was
when your dad played with Tony Hill and Drew.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Really that's not.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Longly, it's Ben. So you ain't gonna say Irving and
Heart no.
Speaker 9 (14:47):
No, no, no no no, Heart went rat to town.
He showed you he wasn't call him rat the town
like he got that I got I got that money. Say,
now you're gonna see what I feel.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, man, this isn't.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
They say that either I was like the best receiver
I can think of during this time Witting, Well, well
you got Witting, but that we don't look at Witness
at the tight end. Were talking about receivers. I think
the best receiver. I was saying, you're.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Talking about game changes.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
T Williams, Terrence Williams, and Obs. So that's not that's no,
but that's what I'm saying. It's no comparison. But I'm saying,
like when you it's it's not sad to say, but
it's crazy to think, like you haven't had a tandem
like that with the lineage of the offense like here,
like Dak has had the number one office, Romo had
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a number one offense. BLOODSOE was doing good at one
point time, and for all these guys to do good,
it was like dang, like this is the first time
you're seeing it. And like you said, you don't have
a Witting, but you got a Jason. I mean you
got a first that's over there doing numbers, and now
you have one a one B and the running back
is you know like this. Would you say you've been
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the og that you want to seeing all the greatness
around football, would you say that this is the most
complete offense all around far as weapons, QB and cohesiveness.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
If our offensive line.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
A lot of great boys football, If.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Our offensive line can get up to when we buried
and had that offensive line here, if they could get there,
Like I say, the two receivers gonna always take care
of the running back. You know, are either that one
great running back gonna.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Take care of your receivers.
Speaker 9 (16:34):
We got two great receivers that would take care of
the running back situation, you know, because his dad played
with two great receivers, you know, and they took care
of one another.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You couldn't.
Speaker 9 (16:45):
You just had to line up cover too across the
board and that's all you could play.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
That's all you can play. Anything else was uncivilized.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
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coming back, we want to definitely get into talking about
some of the other cast that showed up last night.
The young kid rev went over showing definitely made their
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get back on the right track with that w last night.
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And you know it was a total team win. And
and when I say that, I mean total team win.
We actually had some guys who finally made their debuts
last night and the Mario Overshon and uh the young
Revel kid who was who came back and was able
to play last night, and looking at from what from
what they were able to do and contribute, they both
made some plays last night. Uh, Jerry has been talking
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about we had some reinforcements, and uh, I definitely think
that this is part of what he was talking about.
But as you guys watched the game last night and
just seeing what Logan Wilson was able to do as
a new line back in here and then playing with
Overshawn as well, and then what Revel was supposed was
able to do on the outside. Uh, anytime we went
to Nickel and stuff like that, how did you feel
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about their progress and just them getting their first snaps
last night.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I'm sorry with you trailers.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
For me, I'm gonna start.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
I'm gonna start this thing off just because I think
the biggest key component is up front. Quentin Williams doing
what he does. He only for a weekend. He was
a destructive he was He was a monstrosity down there,
just do everything that he was doing. It trickled off
to where you've seen him doing what he did, Kenny Clark.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Doing what he does.
Speaker 8 (21:17):
But then you had Dige Zul coming off the bench
and being able to do that, like when you got
a three man rotation like that, like it is electrifying.
And for the guy that I said that was gonna
be my Yetti cool cup logan coming in doing what
he did. He had the green dot last night, did
he not for him to have the green dot on
a short week like this and play the way that
he was playing, Like you've seen Overshan out there not
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having to direct people around like it Wasn't it so
much pressure on a guy that's coming off an injury
to say, hey, I need to be the captain of this.
But kind of like on offense, you had a one
A and one B with Overshan making the plays, Wilson
out there making the checks, and you've seen complimentary football
for the first time. So for me, I was really
excited about it. And then I love what I've seen
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for the Revel kid. I'm gonna let the DBS and
y'all to take that down. But the way I seen
him making plays, stripping the ball and once again coming
off major injury like that, I cannot get my hats off.
We got three people out of this year that it
came off a cl injuries, right, Overshaw, Revel, and then
you got digs Well two out of the two out
of the people that was here with the rehab staff
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the whole time, really showed you.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
What, possibly you know what, let me pass it.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
I had to let me go ahead. I don't hurt
the tell the truth.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
I don't hurt right, but no, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
You know what I'm I'm just saying preach, bro saying
good stuff. I'm say preach.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
I mean how you look at it Berry, when I'm
when I'm looking at this. We talked about it yesterday
on the show. We look at Aberus and the type
of defense he loves to run. He always the on
the better ones. He always has that guy on the
second level. That's that's the quarterback. That's the guy that
can get everybody lined up and in the right situation.
Not necessarily an all world, all Pro game changer, but
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he's that guy that thinks above the shoulder pads and
make sure everybody's lined up in the right spot. You know,
if we're all playing cover two, not half playing cover two,
half plan cover one. And I thought that's what Logan
Wilson was able to do out there. When you look
at it the defenses in the past, he's had a
Sean Lee, he's had a ro Kwan Smith, he's had
a Shack Leonard.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Out there, and Franklin was black young kid. He was
behind Shack Leonard.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Over there, and so yes, he always had that quarterback
of the defense, and so far this season that that
wasn't there. You know, you had, you know, marry those
guys trying to do what they did. But we saw
the communication errors.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
On the defense.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
So when you got a guy like Logan Wilson in there,
who's a cerebral type player, had everybody lined up, everybody
was communicating on the same page, these are the type
of results you're gonna get. So I love it what
I saw from him, and he's going to be extremely beneficial,
in my opinion, to over shown development out there, because
when you look at it, it's not going to be
on overshown to go out there and say, all right, guys,
(24:05):
we're in this, we're in this, we're in that. While
also being that pro boke out all pro caliber linebacker.
He can sit there and say, all right, Logan, when
I got this play, all right, this is my responsibility, seeball,
go get ball. Let me go out there and make
these plays. So I love that aspect. I think they're
going to grow as a tandem and just become better
and better as the season progressed. And I love what
I saw from the Rebel kid as well. Man, you
need that in the second dary.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Ad, Can I ask you a question break it down
a little bit more, because I know you have been
one of the most critical guys of this secondary Darion
said what he said, But I know for you you
were critical in the playoff digs when you first got here.
Elam and the rest of these guys like talk about,
for me, what did you see in the Rebels kid?
And then how many snaps did he take last night?
(24:47):
Because I think he took a lot of snaps? So like,
are you optimistic in what you've seen from him? Do
you think Jerry was right when he said, hey, help
is really on the way, and he was referring to
these two workhorses and overshawn.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Nineteen snaps for Revel.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
So first thing I saw last night was drawn Bland
played a much better game than he played the week before, right,
and then and then his matchup it actually seemed like
they had him on bours wherever he was going, yes,
and so he messed up. Well, we talked about how
big he was, We talked about how much of a
mismatch he was, and Laying went out there and made
some good plays on him. And then to have Kaylyn
(25:25):
Carson come back in off of ir and to be
able to play every defensive snap as well. All right,
so we you know, you mentioned Diggs is gone, so
you know, of course, you know, we're trying to find
some guys who could next man up basically be able
to fill in. And you don't want that guy that's
going to just be another guy out there. You want
a guy who's actually gonna be able to come out
there and make some plays. And granted it was the Raiders,
(25:45):
all right, but you know, like, but the Cowboys have
basically been that team that has been that breakout team
for whoever is going to be that on any given night,
you know what I mean. So to actually be able
to see that and to see that we have a
little bit, I guess you could say the depth is growing.
And in the second in the secondary was definitely, you know,
a positive thing for me to see Revel come out there,
(26:05):
who hasn't played and what almost over years his last
snaps were actually in college, Yeah, exactly, you know what
I mean. So to be able to come out there
and the man up your first day out there, you know,
yeah show it shows a lot of promise. So I'm
definitely excited about that. And and and my whole thing
has been with the secondary hasn't been the lack of talent.
It's just been about the lack of technique that has
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been played, you know what I mean. And I really
feel like with any of these guys, once they get
their technique together like this, this whole secondary could turn
into something very special. Of course, now with the additives
of what's going on up front, up front and the center,
and then you know, being able to hold Like one
of the biggest things that I was looking at this
this week coming up was you know, it was it
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was a whole thing of like people being able to
look at this defense and say, oh, we can run
on it, we can do this, and we can do that.
I felt like, and I was hoping that the impact
that Quinn Williams would coming here would be so immediate
to the point where like, Okay, everything that you've seen before,
you could throw that out the window. And so basically
we were able to see that last night. And you know, like,
like I said, you got to build off the small victories, Okay,
(27:09):
regardless if it's the Raiders or not.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
They look good.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
You know, it's the momentum shift and it's something positive
to be able to build off of. Now, Nate, let
me ask you this right here, Okay, with so many
young guys on that old line, you know, and last
night we were able to see I believe they only
gave it one sack. All right, As we move forward
with guys getting healthy and everything, as far as like
(27:32):
the next man up on that offensive line, what are
you seeing from the young tylers and everything else out
there that's giving you a positive I guess you could say,
outlook on the rest of the season, and do you
see any way for them to carry this momentum and
keep it going into to like to try to build
something maybe to get to this postseason if possible.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
This is.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
The confidence out of all the groups.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
I think the secondary and offensive linemen have to be
of one accord because you got so many things that
can happen.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
You know, you got people lining up with you.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
You gotta deal with stunts, you gotta deal with games,
you gotta deal with blitzes. Well, whereas in the secondary,
you you line up, you got your deal with the
crossing rights. You gotta go with the underneath. You got
to deal with the rugs. So we have the most
to deal with besides that quarterback. So all of these
things they have to begin to play together. They have
to stay healthy. You left left guard is not gonna
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get healthy. He has a bad knee.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
He's gonna be hobbled all year.
Speaker 9 (28:33):
But our two tackles, the right tackle is who is
our left tackle is getting a little bit better. He's
getting a little bit better. But the bottom line now
is if our three guys, the center and two guards
can jail that can we can help the tackles. But
we need and come in this game here. We need
for these three guys in the middle to be at
(28:54):
their best. And this is what the third game that
they've been together. Yes, sir, go ahead on.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Oh no, no, no, it was gonna I hate to
cut you off.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
You get excited when you start talking about these guys
need to come together, because we all know I've been
the guy that said, hey, it's been the next man up.
And for those first few weeks seeing them play against
the New York Giants defensive line, holding those guys up.
We've seen what type of performance they did against the
Green Bay Packer who some people have them in Super
(29:23):
Bowl favors. Do you think that they have the capability
of playing to that caliber of that level with the
Eagles coming in right now because you have Jayalen Carter
the DM, Yes, you have that, but Jordans.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Like with them playing the.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Eagles stout front like that, do you think they have
that capability of messing the wheel?
Speaker 9 (29:47):
And they've had this will be their fourth game back together.
On the third game, they should be rounded into shape.
Their defensive ends are nice, but they're not great, just
like I think we got decent defense events but our
middle is nice.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Yes, sir, if we can get a few whams, get.
Speaker 9 (30:06):
A few quick traps, uh, some quick hitting plays that
we can can keep these two guys in the middle busy.
You have to always keep them busy. Don't let them
have a chance to think. Everything's got to be quick,
no slow developing stuff. Whatever it is, gotta hit quick.
And these guys gotta be technique sound. That's when I
(30:27):
played and I played against and I'll say Philadelphia Reggie White.
When they go into the barrier, they have Jerome Brown
and they have I can't even think of the two
other guys over the Mike Goldie.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Y'all heard him, Mike Golie. They had these three guys
in the middle.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
We was hitting quick, sir, and and uh and we
threw technique out the winner because it was a dog fight.
And so you know, if I got a hole in
the early in that game, it was okay. You know,
I had to get it done. You see what I'm saying.
So these fellas got to get it done. But what
coach cannot do is give up on the run game
too early. If they force you into that, that's the
(31:04):
one thing. Yeah, and don't give up just because you know, and.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
I hope we don't give up on the run because
we've seen it in the first few plays when Javonte
first came out there, it was an eight or nine
yard run on the cars, run going on like trusting
your running back. But like you said when you said
a wamblock. For viewers out there in America, if you
don't understand what a wamblock is, a defensive lineman hates this.
This is where you have the three interior guys and
(31:28):
your guard is gonna go really quick, and the center
is right there, and it's so quick to where you're
getting ear hold and next thing, you know, you're not
getting off the ball. And so for him to say,
we need to incorporate some more wambo trap to slow
down Jalen and then we can slow him down in
the middle, I think that's gonna set up the play
action run and we get to see the one A
one A and Javonte Williams.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Then make it a Dak prices and just keepavon unless
unless he I'm with Nate on this one, unless he
tapping out.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
As he say, Man, I'm tired. I don't carry these guys.
But keep that brother in the game, man.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
And I think that what you know, the numbers have
proven over the years that anytime Dak has had some
true balance and you know he's not throwing the ball
thirty plus times a game, I believe his record is
more so a winning record, you know. So that that
that goes on to say that you know that is
definitely important. Another thing that I that I that I
think that you know the Cowboys can honestly do going
into this game as well against the Eagles, is uh,
(32:23):
look at it as almost like we got to get
some revenge here. Okay, they got they got the first
game against him, and of course, you know, any type
of division game goes for two games, so if anything,
and trying to stay second in his division and in
the conference as well, Uh, they're gonna have to try
to get try to get this get back on this
one right here.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Now.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
One of the things that I definitely wanted to talk
about though, Cowboys for sacks, one interception, all right, but
those four sacks, that's big, of course, and one of theirs.
I guess you could say it's the second second best
game as far as when it comes to sacks and pressures.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
They have five against who was get.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
The safety as well.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
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Sat joined by Nate Newton, Demontree Moore and Barry Church.
All right, now moving forward, Okay, because like we gotta
keep this momentum going, we gotta try to build off
of this next week. We gotta we got a serious
team coming in here. Of course I'm wonning the division.
(36:38):
Of course, we're talking about the Philadelphia Eagles, and we mentioned,
you know, this game being a being a conference in
the division game, you know, so I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Throw this out there to you.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
What can what what can the Cowboys you or use
off of this game here to try to stay consistent
and going into this next Philly game.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Just the same game play.
Speaker 9 (37:02):
Minus the two guys missing the first series or so,
just come with the shame.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Come with the same game plan.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
Be physical, let your emotions start the game, but let
your execution in the game, because they gonna come out
and try to throw a punch at us. They're coming
to us, so you come. When you come in there,
They're gonna try to throw an early punch. If we
can get through that early punch and not let them
get too far ahead, we don't get too far ahead
(37:30):
that we get the big head that we should be.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
All right, I'm not saying.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
I'm a realist and I deal with the middle of
offenses and defenses, and that means both defensive offensive lines
in the middle.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Who gonna win that battle?
Speaker 9 (37:46):
If we can win the inside battle I'm talking about
versus their center and guards, and we win that, we
got a chance to win this game.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
But if we lose that.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Trey, what do you see that we can use as
far as with the d line showed you this past week,
to stay consistent with that, to build off of that
and go into this game against Philly.
Speaker 8 (38:06):
Well knowing Shotty like how I know him coming in
under Pete Carroll lineage. Pete used to always talk about competition.
Shotty talk about competition since day one, he coming in
there just from trash can basketball, that little nuance.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
Well, if I know.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
Him like I think I do, I think Shane's gonna
go in there and he's gonna lean off of that momentum.
He's gonna bank off of having that snowball effect. Quinn,
will you and you came in here and you barely
knew the scheme, and you got one and a half
sex already and you only had one coming into the year.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
Come on, man, this is made for you.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
Hey, Kenny Clark, you've been a ferocious monster since the
day that we traded for you, and you have set
the momentum for this defense. Guess what you got? Help now, brother,
go do what you're gonna do. Hey, Overshawn, young guy, Hey,
you just got back over Shawn, young pup. It's time
to hunt, and you you're gonna graduate from being a
young pub to the big dog. I need you to
attack like that logan. Hey man, you've always been a starter. Well,
(38:58):
guess what. This is a new place in a new environment.
Lead us leader. Go out there and do what you do,
the rookie doing what he does, and then from there
you're gonna talk them up to make them run through
a brick wall and say, hey, man, ibra Flus, do
what you've been doing. Show us we're in the foxhole
with you. Because guess what, the carpenter has this tool.
So be excited right now, use that momentum, and then
you challenge them because guess what this is gonna come
(39:20):
down to. As Nate, like you said, it starts in
the trenches. I want to see if our d line
outplays they D line, And if y'all do that, I
guarantee you will win because Dak and them, we're gonna
do what they need to do. D Line, go get
their sacks. They got a guy that's coming. They got
two guys that they're talking about coming in. Well, guess
what our two guys. Guess what we got three guys
we got. We got Kenny Clark, we got Quinn Williams,
(39:42):
and we got Osa in the back end. And not
to mention everybody else, we need to outplay them. So
I think that's what's gonna come down to to win
this game.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Right now, Church, what secondary do that with the new
addition of the two new guys coming back as far
as Revel and Case and Clark, and I'm sorry Kaylen
Clark and uh, what can they do to stay consistent
minus digs? But like Bland just stepped up and played
the hell of a game yesterday. What can the secondary
do to keep this keep this ball rolling in the
right direction.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
You gotta keep focusing on that technique. You gotta lock
in on the fundamentals and the basics. You know, don't
go out there doing stuff that you don't practice on
the football on the on the practice field.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Like if you if you're a.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Guy that loves to play off technique and you're a
man the man coverage, locking on that, you know, focusing
on your off technique, don't be a guy that's just oh,
I'm gonna try this or I'm gonna try that. That's
how you gonna get beat. That's how you're gonna give
up the exposed to play. We've seen it earlier in
the year against Chicago. You mean, you got my guy,
you know digs, you know, up and down, but he
jump jamming cats and letting people run around him.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Focusing on your techniques, locking and that communication.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
Has got to be big time on this in the secondary.
You guys all got to be on the same page.
If you're all wrong.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
You're all right. At least you're.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Playing the same scheme, and I feel like Logan Wilson
is gonna do a great job of making sure everybody's
playing within the system there and secondly, as a whole
defense and a team. Basically, the big dogs got to
show up like this is a this is a game,
a division game against one of the best teams in
the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
You can't go missing. You can't.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
It can't be one of those games where, yeah, I
want to show out against the Raiders, but Philly and
I'm like, oh, man, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
You know, you got it all.
Speaker 6 (41:16):
Your big dogs have got to show up offensively and defensively.
And when it comes to the coaching staff, don't do
anything too cute, man, Don't don't go out there and
say I gotta do this reverse trick pass or this.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
You know, I gotta do this fleet flicker here to
get yardists.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
You're talented enough on the outside, You're talented enough in
the backfield to get the job done. Stay balanced, stay
within yourself. And that goes for the coaches, that goes
for the players as well. But the big dogs got
to show up first.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
And goal don't don't don't first and goal.
Speaker 9 (41:47):
Juggernaut give it to him at least two times.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
And then if you want to try something fans after that.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Stick to it.
Speaker 8 (41:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
One of the things I think that is kind of
playing to the Cowboys been fit right now is a
little bit of the controversy that's going on with that
Philadelphia offense all right now. They definitely got a one
A and a one B or two ones over there,
but they ain't figured it out like the Cowboys have yet,
you know what I'm saying. So that's definitely playing into
their benefit. And then and not to mention that sa
(42:16):
Quan just has not had those those games that we
saw or were used to him having as far as
from last year, we were just putting up a hundred
yards after hundred yards after hundred yards. So with that
being said, and you know, hopefully, like we talk about,
build up all the small victories, Okay, it does not
matter what they are, just building off all these small victories.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Hopefully that will give the Cowboys a little bit.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Of a momentum going into this game right here, you know,
and then to hopefully try to figure out a way
to not only be competitive, but to actually get a
w again this weekend? All right, now, the transition into
this is going to be, Okay, how do we stop
Smith number one? He's there basically their go to guy.
(43:00):
All Right, we already see that Brown is being complaining.
He just had a meeting with the owner and everything.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Else like that. But when we talk about Philly always
finds a way to do what?
Speaker 5 (43:12):
All right?
Speaker 8 (43:13):
So can I ask you all this then? With Philly
always finding a way to win? The number one team?
Speaker 7 (43:18):
Right now?
Speaker 8 (43:19):
The Cowboys the playoffs aren't they aren't completely going yet.
They're aspirations for it. If they come in and get
this win, does this does should this excite Cowboys fan?
Does this let them know that they're a arrival? They're
really a playoff caliber team and contender.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
Do you think that with this win?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
If you're on the roster, you can't. You can't think
that if you're on the team. I get it, you know,
fans and everybody, we've arrived.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
But you can't think that, man, because you know this
team has been on such a roller coaster ride. Right now,
they got to continue to stack these victories. They got
to continue to just focus on getting one win at
a time when you start looking at, oh, man, we
got a better chance now to get to that.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
You know, to that tournament and get a foot in there.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
That's when you know a team will sneak up on you,
like Theirs on the Cardinals or Charlotte or you know, Carolina.
Speaker 7 (44:08):
Or something like that, Charlotte, Charlotte.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
It's like you, you just got locked in one win
at a time, and then after after the seasons that
you look up and you're in there or yank.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
But if you look too far in the future, man,
it can get ugly quick.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
Because we have been the drug store cowboys. Promise you
bro everybody using us for a drugs. The thing that
you the thing that this team has to do you
and you are not.
Speaker 9 (44:37):
Good enough to not play your best every week. You're
not good enough not to study film. You're not good
enough not to break the to break the rules of
the offense of the defense. You're not good enough. And uh,
that's hard for us to take as alpha males, all
of us and nature is just not good enough. What
(44:58):
Jerome Brown showed me that, so I had to watch
the extra film showed me that, So I had to
watch you the extra fielm. You know what I'm saying,
so I can level up. So all, you're not good
enough to be in desperate mode, but you are good
enough to study your film and do the extra work.
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