September 30, 2025 • 46 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
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All right, The Cowboys gonna get it? Oh in four
New York Jets team Sunday at the meadow Lands.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yes, in New York, on.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
The road, Jets in Carolina. So next two games are
on the road, Dolphins twenty one, Jets twenty twenty seven.
That you say, Dolphins twenty seven, Jets twenty one justin fields.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You ain't got it, Bro, Hey man, it's come up
here and do the Caleb on them.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
It's here.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
It's not as bad as he don't got it because
those these games have been really close that they've been
playing all season. Bro, And he, like ad just said,
Caleb Williams didn't have it, and guess what, you went
out there and gave him his first career game without
getting the sack. Like honestly, at this point, it's people
out there in fantasy saying, hey, whoever your receiver is,
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I'm picking them whoever plays the Cowboys that week. So
we can't sit there and just be like, oh, oh,
and four doesn't mean anything because we said that.
Speaker 7 (01:48):
You already know anybody coming in here is looking for
the opportunity, would not even come here.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But anybody they playing over bag about this game, I'm
talking about it. He ain't got it. Like he ain't
that guy in the NFL. I ain talking about just getting.
Speaker 8 (02:00):
Off the cowboy starting quarterback in the National Football He
ain't got it, bro, Like that's it.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
You know that it takes a special team and takes
a special type of coach to develop a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
He could be a backup man in twenty years.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
You can't even say that because he's produced somewhat, And
come on, what quarterback has went to the jests recently
and been able to produce like this somewhat.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
He's in Pittsburgh, I mean Pittsburgh. He was he was
strangs for at a little bit Pittsburgh. Don't develop no quarterbacks, y'all.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
Man, when we're gonna put out playing man, playing man,
come on, man, coaches.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Ball all the time.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I said, he's shown us flashes.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Right, here's your stat.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Justin Fields has led his team to ah and twenty
five record when opponents scored at least twenty one points.
Oh and twenty five. Fields is the only winless quarterback
out of forty six quarterbacks in this sample over the
last five years with at least ten starts.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Mate, he ain't got it. He ain't got it out there.
Trade he could be a backup for he can play
for years.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
You say the numbers like that, I mean, numbers don't lie.
They don't lie, but sometimes they do.
Speaker 8 (03:09):
All know, twenty twenty five twenty five with all your
team know, we need justice.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
First of all.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Okay, say started out at the Bears. Bears didn't give
him nothing to fight with. He went to the Steelers.
Fields and some type of stuff from man.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Oh in twenty five.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And twenty five record when public score at least twenty
one points and the only winless quarterback and forty It
took forty six quarterbacks in the sample size of the
last five years and it made tenth start.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
He could be your back up, like he could come
in spot by awesome?
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Did Joe Miller?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Joe?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
He could be you know, I think he's better than Joe.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I think you better than Joe. Too bad?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Overtold Joe at this point.
Speaker 8 (03:54):
But is he a you know, top thirty two quarterback
in the league top.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
For It's debatable he could pull later in his career. Man,
you go to the right situation.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
You know, then pull the trade another thing here lately?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Try this three situationder.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Is he reviving it?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
This year?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Gino's made a Pro Bowl justin fields. Ain't doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Ain't justin fields. And that's not it.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
That's all, which is okay, made a lot of money, Yeah,
a lot of I took it for granted that she
was just talking about this week, you.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Know what I mean, but that he's not that guy. Yeah,
I can be not.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
I hope he don't be that guy this week either,
did Yeah, don't turn into that guy.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Actually twenty two you go to go to shoddy and
man twenty two points? Guys, can we get twenty good?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
If you get to anyway, you're good?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Three touchdowns and Aubrey field goal.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You're good, guys. After that, it's good.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So what we do the prediction the Cowboys which time
proof twenty two twenty one, you'll be hones.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
You know one thing that kills me about it quarterback evaluation.
Sometimes it's like, okay, so they have a book of work,
they have a catalog of work, okay, from college, and
then all of a sudden, their athleticism once they get
to the combine may push all that stuff out and
the next thing you know, he's this great athlete and
he's this, he's at he's but no, like we already
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seen it. He couldn't throw between the numbers, he couldn't
fit in tight spaces, whatever the case may be for
individual quarterbacks. But like the person that comes to my
mind is your frat brother.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he was a combine Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Yeah, I mean at Florida, he wasn't putting up no
crazy numbers.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Never did.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
But as soon as they saw that boy and his
shorts and his T shirt at the combine or his
spandexa here it.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Is, brother.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
I mean, look, you stay out of that Greek world,
like you said, like Barry said, that boy has made
a lot of money.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Watch out man Keith talking about playing football.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
You said, my friend brother. I felt like it was
a shadows brother. He is my friend.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Okay, look man, the boy had potential and it was
the first round. Then he then he went over bron lot.
He got the organization, he got that nuke dreuice and
went down here we're talking about Anthony Richards and juice
that killed kill the career backing up Daniel Jones. When
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they played, they played good against the.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Should have won again.
Speaker 8 (06:34):
You see my man, the wide receiver. I forget his name.
Anthony something is your man? You forgot his name, said y'all,
mass number ten for the coachs Wi. I didn't see
the Washington now it wasn't him, he h Anyway, he
got the past, made a couple of moves eighty yards
to the house right.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh yeah, he got to the Gold Lives. Yes almost
he did it.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
He did it to Shaun Jack.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
If I'm with it before it his own touch back.
That's seven points right there. Then Jonathan Taylor breaks off
another sixty yard brun it's not holding. Yeah, fourteen point
swing all because this dude decided to show boat and hold.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
And you hate thing I'm gonna be not even that,
just like I don't know, Like I said, maybe I
feel like because you know how when we first come
into the league, y'all, it's always old head saying, y'all
don't respect the game, y'all, don't do this, y'all, don't
do that, and you think about that type of technique.
I'm thinking about plays that I seen that could have
swung the momentum. In the San Friand and Jacksonvielle game,
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there was one time they could have downed the ball
inside the one and the guy ran down there, jumped
inside the goal line and like hit the ball and
pat everybody knows you got to re establish yourself to
knock the ball in there.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
But you're too excited. You over here show boat and celebrating.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
It's like these small techniques, which you know, getting back
to the Cowboys, what has been the biggest thing we
said in the secondary technique? Eyes and stuff like that,
and it's like, bro, what is going on with the
sloppy play? This is week four right now, Like it
should be of this show boating early and dropping the
ball and having a big cat fumble. There shouldn't be
like us over here getting the bomb over bag that
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and the coverage that is made for you to throw
the short routes, and I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
It's just it's baffling to me.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
And I'm like, man, okay, I've officially become that own
about everything.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's flapp agast. Now it's ugly. It's ugly right now.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I went the locker room yesterday, the locker.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Room tell us something good.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
They believe defensively they're close, and they said one they
got to get turnovers. But he said, we believe we're
getting close in terms.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Of they almost had to last if the force.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Figure out what they need to do in terms of communication.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So communication again, is it? It's communication? We done went
to the like I said, what was it?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
The one word word?
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Oh? So, like Barry said, then when is it gonna
be on sitting here saying is in the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
We just switched the coverage. We just went to one
word like.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's I ask questions. That's all I can do, is
all I can do?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Man, Just ask the question.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I mean, you know, you can ask the question what
top gave to play? Stop giving me the professional answer.
Stoped sitting there saying we're one play away and this
and that, oh they almost had two, Like no one
play away is if you're in one to fifteen top defense,
we're talking about your offense being number one, you're talking
about your defense being number thirty two. What are we
talking about? The turnover marginie is not close? The defense
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paralysis is not there. Like you're more than one play away, bro,
Like here are a lot of plays and if a
lot of those plays are only one miss technique one,
this and that, well, guess what the consistency here is?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
You're that way.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
They came out of a meeting. What you wanted to say?
Hey man, you come out to.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Meeting to say, hey, we got stuff to fix. This
is you can say that. You can say we got
stuff to fix. Hey man, we're onto a new week.
We're gonna learn from my mistakes and get better. But
stop telling me this one player waste stuff.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
So is it one player or is it one player
or more than one player?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Away?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
You're definitely more than one player because the cavalry it's
coming slowly. I sent you the flip of clown and uh,
can he make it some good? You know one man's side,
you know you know it a.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Little bit He didn't watch that clip.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
He didn't. I know he didn't.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
He was selfish though, But that clip I was there.
It was very d Law and Tyrone Crawford is like
very technique sound playing off each other. So you know,
maybe the cavalry is just it's coming. It's just coming
a little slow. It's not in a Mustang, it's it's
the old school Mustang.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
It's away from getting it where they need to get it.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Real horse pass and the lamps still working, baby, they's
still working.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
At least if they believe that that that's that's positive.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That is that fingers at each other, that's good.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Not put your fingers at each other. They're not saying.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
So it's still hope.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But we all know how the locker room is though.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
When cameras ain't there, my defense is I'm over it, Like, man,
I'm there up.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
You gotta keep this going.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We got scored forty a game, yacored, man. That's how I.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Would be though, Man, Tyreek Hill injury last night.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Did y'all see him celebrating at the end, I'm like, yo,
was it? Like it gave me a little So when
he got like on the cart and stuff like that,
obviously you know how people when they get these major injuries,
they usually get the thumbs up or I'm doing this
and that. He kind of had like one of those
why me but laugh like the joker moment, but then
start waving at everybody like oh, I'm going Miami like
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like like.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Is it I'm gone there? Hey, the seasons over with it.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
It's like, you know what, everything's been going wrong so
far and this is just the icing on the cake.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Maybe this is it and.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You can't do is laugh off. One of them type
deals was that sucks.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
One of my boys posted in a group and I
was like, you know, me, I'm always trying to play
advocate for the player. He was like, bro, I'm getting
tired of this. This is so Earl Thomas. And I
was like, you think so Like when Earle you know,
flicked off and he left. They was like, yo, the
same thing with Tyreek leaving and waving in Miami like
he's been such a nuisance.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
He been tired of that. Well, I think, well we are.
They had a what was it, they had a players
meeting already and if you've ever been on a team this,
I didn't know that. Yeah, So if you've ever had
been on a team where you got to lock the
coaches out and have a players meeting. I've been there before,
get what I'm saying, And fortunately for us, we were
actually able to galvanize the season and make it to
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the super Bowl. That was the year we had Callahan
when Gruden got traded, okay, and we had locked everybody
out and we just had to have that meeting. But
down there, nothing's changing, you know what I mean. And
Tyreek was already complaining before the season started going into it,
and then he was complaining last year too as well.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So yeah, I'm.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Sure that he wants to have that type of injury.
But just like you said, he was waving goodbye to
Miami once again.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
If Andy Reid is calling you with a player, do
not accept the phone call.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Don't make that trade.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He didn't got boys, He don't got plenty of cats. Man,
he didn't got him.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
He traded make the away to Washington. Ain't get nothing
out that traded a J.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Phillip A J.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Feeley to Miami for a second round pick.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Got something out to you?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
What do you get for t you?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Ti was a good catboy.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
They cut to you. They're told him to go told he's.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
My favorite Floyd.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Alex Smith to Alex Smith to Washington, but Alex Smith.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Washington. That's what he did.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
He moved, He moved Tyreek Hill on what Tyrie do I.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Mean little Alex Smith go to casino and.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
That's where he got traded from. Yeah, that's what he
destroyed his leg.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
And it says I'm good with you got rid of
Sean McCord. I mean Andy Reid has got rid of
he is not missed the beat, the man ismber Bobby Wagner.
I'm not Bobby Wager, Bobby Taylor and had the great
corners of Santi sept Guy's thanks moved on from him. Man,
Andy Reid, don't really miss So if Andy's calling you
with the players, hang up from.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Who is no?
Speaker 6 (14:22):
I was like the way you make it sound, I'm like, man,
I wouldn't even pick up his phone.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So Andy Reid, especially with a quarterback, but anybody else,
don't pick up Andy Reid call and and just just
say no, say no. I mean Tyreek Kill left for
money he wanted, so he got his read went to
Miami and you would have got unhappiness. And what did
Andy Reid continue to do whin Super Bowl wins Super Bowl.
It's tougher for him right now, but he's still won.
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And I just think of those things. Look, I'm not
you guys were players. Get the bag you want. But
at some point in time, man, if you're in a
good place like that, with a quarterback like that, you're
winning championships and then the ability to try to build
a Hall of Fame resume, right, you got, Yeah, that's
something you got to think about, something to think about.
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I mean, look at what Look how it's worked out
for Travis Kels.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh you talk about the bag off the field.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
On the field, you know they turned that into something
crazy New Wed but hall of.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Fame, Him Andrey do commercials together, everything, podcasts.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
All three of them.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Right, And so he stayed in Kansas City. They've paid him,
they've paid him well. But those are the things you
have to think about at a certain point. But when
you're in the when he like aj Brown complaining, brother,
how much you want to complain? When you're considered your
team coming into this year was considered a repeat team.
You look at the NFC right now, they're not even
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playing that well, they're undefeated. Man, you got to start
to ask yourself how much complaining do I want to
do before I run myself out of a good situation.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
After you don't get paid like that Bowl, Chail, you
pay but that but you know as well as I do,
like as much as we sitting there saying that in hindsight,
he's twenty twenty now, but in that moment, like you're
a player, like bro.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Like I want why does it have to be saying enough?
Speaker 5 (16:11):
It's hindsight.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's enough people that are in football out of football
that you could go to get some advice and say,
hey man, am I crazy?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
And he's probably right and he probably did, and those
people it depends on who's in his corner and stuff
like that. I know that it's a lot easier for
you after you don't won the Super Bowl, after you
didn't got paid, after you know that people know that
you're the top receiver in the league, like to be
a little frustrated and say, hey man, like I'm not
giving my touches. Like eventually it comes in that player's
career where they want to they want to shine, they
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want to get.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Their burn, regardless of what it is.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
And then when you be like, oh man, I wish
I would have been quiet so I could have won
a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
But I'm saying it's hard.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
It's hard to be a dude that can play at
that level and not think that he doesn't want to
contribute every week. It doesn't matter how much money you
getting as a true football player and can't know they
can't pay you a certain amount of money to shut
you up and sit you down. If you actually want
to be out there, that's that's that's just what it is,
you know what I'm saying. And you could be comfortable
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with it and be like, oh, yeah, I'm getting so
much money, but if you want to be on that field,
contributing and being part of it, and and and and
it's like, just like you said, she got caught up
in the time. It was an emotional thing and everything
else like that.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But some people ain't gonna be satisfied. Okay, they tried
that with ary loans when he got here, here's your money,
here's your money, still bitching your mind. Then they tried
to get in the catches. Well we lose, we I
mean it was never dude was never happy. Everywhere he went.
He was a firestarter.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
But anyway, but in that would make you the best player.
Sometimes being a competitor and not being satisfied like you
going in there, like I get it, Like yes, you
start fired, but you're not thinking of it that way,
like you know the game so well that it's supposed
to be coming to you.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I'm not talking about I'm not.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Going you're gonna walk, You're gonna walk. Sam heard and
and and ye.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
A meeting where these two dudes go set themselves on
fire because he wasn't happy.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
They already start moaning and growing it about the receiver rule.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
But that's just one player. We're not even talking about.
We started about he helped lead.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Well damn hirsh said a damn thing. So what about
so but we got off topic. What about Aj though
we haven't heard that about Aj. Aj has been the
quiet guy. AJ is the guy. He had the guy
the book on the side. Yeah he got he had
the book on the sideline. But he hasn't been just
publicly out here shaming people on this and that. Like
bro y'all get he had the book on the sideline.
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It was a problem. Then when he started balling, it
was like, man, he's reading on the sideline. He's so calm.
He's not ever in the media like this. He talks
about suicide. He worries about his mental life. We swing
the narrative and moved the pendulum whichever way is going
to give him. But if I'm a player, if you
if you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
They weren't thrown on the ball. So the targets last.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Game, nine targets, but was their quality targets where they
just away the scheme?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
He was getting clamped, just didn't you want the game.
He was in his hip pocket clapping him up like
the time, who was aparo?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
She don't had ten plus target bitching after game two,
He's just like, dude, if you're that guy who's never.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Had before this game, before this game, he wasn't getting
targeted like that. So yeah, you got your you got
nine targets, but you know, you know nine targets, and
you know nine targets that are made for you as
the number one guy on the team. You know what
players are drawn up, you know what Blitzer being called
for us that are designed like if you're in this scheme,
it's like, hey, we know Bobby Wagoner is going to
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get this sec Hey we know Berry Church is going
to get this.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Six defensively, offensively.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
If you're getting a target, that play is designed for
you to get the target.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Me personally, as far as AJ Brown's head coach, you know,
outside of it, I would definitely say, hey, man, look,
come hollering me about this before you take it to
the media. But I ain't gonna have no issue with
the boy wanted to be involved in the game against
problem with it against the Rams when they won thirty
three twenty six, A. J.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Brown had ten targets?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
How many receptions.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Six of for a buckle nine and a touchdown?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Did he say anything after that game? I don't know
how many yards did he have with these nine targets
last game?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Seven yards? He want to ask why he's going to
say something? But is that is that? Who else has
vaulted you get the ball to you nine times? And
you did? You can win one reception?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
How many? How many of those? How many of them?
And if he got seven, how many of those little
double covers? Though no.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Route? You ain't letting me stretch the field. I'm not
able to do this. I got nine targets for seven
yards and he two.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Of the ball to l I'm not gonnae when he did. Yeah, opportunities,
but there was some of them where he was double click.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Against against the Chiefs leading receiver in terms of targets
eight targets, five catches, twenty seven yards Davante Smith's six targets,
four catches, fifty three yards.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
The man is a part of the offense.
Speaker 10 (20:54):
He is.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
But you That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
If anything, Yeah, he's having a little bit about reorse,
like you went to a team that's gonna win and
stuff like that. You're complaining about the way that you're
winning after you didnet got your super Bowl, after you didn't,
got your big payday, and now it's like, hey, oh,
y'all don't throw nearly a monk. Well, y'all never threw
nearly enough. So I'm not gonna make the narrative of, Yo,
you're being a prima donna because you're not getting this.
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You're being like, brother, you're just seeing it. The rose
colored glasses are off now, like not at the super Bowl,
and then important to you, not at the paychecking this morning.
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not saying that he got to catch the targets that
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Speaker 5 (21:43):
And he said he want more.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You give it to it, so you want it all?
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Speaker 7 (21:48):
I would they give it them the most targets.
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This was my provatarial Onis.
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as long as we win, I'm fine. But if we're
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get to say, hey, man, you know if we ain't
calling up some dialing up some defense and I'm getting
some blitz and get my sacks because you know, I
know I can't help us. We got sacks of problem
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Speaker 4 (22:31):
He had one, he had one target in the game.
One okay, one, devant takes me with that three.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
But what were they doing in that game?
Speaker 7 (22:37):
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Having some fun.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Always been the Mets starter, like stirring the pot.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
You go ahead, put your cape on you. It ain't okay,
I'm gonna sit back.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
You play, you play, You played to earn the right.
What do you say, like, Hey, if you want those responsibilities,
then guess what play to that level. And once I
play to that level, I should be able to do that.
That's what we do. It is like we're sitting here
complaining about a system that's been put in the place
time over time, like it ain't been done. Don't complain
about something that's there. Guess what, I'm gonna go make
the system work for me. And so guess what. We've
(26:53):
seen it time and time again, and people are happy
when they make the system work. And then once the
system is not working and you think that you're bigger
than that, then it's like we want to tear them down. No,
this is what got you here. But Lebron made the
league what it was. He went to Cleveland and said, hey,
let me change this franchise. Then go get a dub. Hey,
y'all saying I'm not the best after statistically I'm the
(27:15):
fastest one to break all these records get to this moment.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Oh well what's now? What's stopping me from being the best? Oh?
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Jordan and Kobe, Well, now I got to go go rings.
Now that I got rings, you mad that I got
the rings the way that I did it? Come on, bro,
I played the system the way it was supposed to
be played. Dion played the system the way it was
supposed to be played. He had multiple sons, and with
his last son, he said, hey, I seen where I
messed up with the other ones and letting them get sidetracked.
Let me guide you to the promised land and the
system was working until it wasn't working. Like you get
(27:42):
there and people get mad, I'm not mad at you
doing it the way that you did it. You earned
the right to be there. So we were talking about
I'm talking about everybody. I just used it as exact. Okay,
I'm talking about I'm talking about Lebron, I'm talking about
Lebron talking about AJ Brown. I'm saying AJ has earned
the right to be one of the top receivers.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Come see you about that.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
They come see me whatever my adjrect Hey what Deonza,
it ain't. I ain't hard to find Buckie my dog.
But I'm saying, like with Aj, he earned the right.
He's one of the top receivers in the league, is
he not.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (28:16):
And he's been quiet when he was at the Titans.
Then he got to the Eagles and he was still quiet.
Then now when he started talking a little bit, it
was like, Okay, he's being a diva. But then once
he started getting the ball like he was supposed to.
Oh he's a playmaker. Oh he's so self conscious. He
has so much emotional maturity. Now it's like, oh, here
you go. It's another they're making it to seem like
he's another Terrell Owens reincarnated right now. And that's what
(28:39):
I'm saying. That's not fair to put that narrative on
that man right now.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Okay, So okay, he.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Didn't earn the right to complain or say anything.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay, so let's let's take it that way there.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
So if they start feed force feeding them, they start,
you know, eight fifteen targets, twenty targets, but they're losing,
then then what happens.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Hey, you're on the chopping blocks. You know how it
goes in the locker room. You're gonna feed your stars
and make them happy, is it not?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Then the team loses.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
The team does loses in that in that case, and
that's where we see stuff balls down. But it's like,
it's giving take where you're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I'm gonna go with the winning.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
I'm gonna go with the winning if I'm a GM
and stuff like that. But as a player, where you
going with that mindset? If you had every team, if you're.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
On that tea, you wouldn't go with the winning side
either to.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
A certain state. He just said he wasn't. He said he.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Seemed like if you a j brown, Yeah, but if
you all the other if.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
I'm not there, yeah, if I'm a true team guy
and I want to win, yes, but we know that's
not how it goes in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Wait what how did it not go that way? If
you if you're winning and you're part of a team.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
That's the way, the whole that the winning a winning culture, yes,
but in other cultures you've been so you're telling me
every locker room you win in everybody was all team first.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Oh, I don't get this.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
Number one player never dictated what the team did for
success like that. Not one player was gonna be like, right,
we're gonna do it this way because I want this way.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
You know, I don't think they.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Just take Yeah, I didn't take it in like I
just got to have everything just make let me get
involved to as well.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
So what's the threshold, That's what I say, because you'
getting nine targets, you're getting ten targets, you're getting eight targets, you.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Got nine target seven yard And then you said and.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Then I don't know what week it was before he's happy,
Before he had ten one hundred and something yards on
ten targets, one hundred and siven yards on ten targets.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So he got and then the next week they gave
him nine targets.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Think with me.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
Right here, Yeah, I got ten targets for one hundred
some yards. Now I got nine for seven We're in there.
Did those routes change up? And the and the way
that I was implemented into the game, there's.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
A whole But like that, what was the defense doing right?
Speaker 7 (30:44):
It could be the defense or it could be the
route selection in the routes that he was told to
run that game. We don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
I think I think before this game it would I
felt like it was a combination.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
This last game he got locked up. Like yeah, but.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
That's why I said it's a given tech situation, bro, Like,
because I'm saying that it.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Can't be everyone else's fault.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
It's not anyone else can't.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
If I'm gonna if I'm the head coach, first of all,
like you said, you go talk to your players, I'm
gonna go talk to him and say, hey, don't be
doing this out of here in the media. One, I'll
work on giving you some of your favorite routes and
incorporating this more. But also with that being said, brou One,
don't be out there in the media to keep everything
in the house. Three, most importantly, be effective with what
you have right now, because I'm giving you nine like
(31:31):
you said, you're giving him ten like his AJ Brown
is not a single target guy. He is a double
digit target guy.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
So targets.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Last week from Philly, AJ Brown with nine Dallas guarded
with four targets, caught, four passes, Barkley four targets, caught,
four passes, DeVante Smith two targets, caught, two passes, uh
Grant Calcatar two targets, one catch, John Mitchie two targets,
two catches, and will Shipley give me some yard targets
(32:07):
you want? Okay, how many.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Yards did Davonte Smith have on his reception twenty nine?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Two for twenty nine and along was twenty.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
He was effective, That's all I hear from said.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Four catches thirty seven yards with a long of twenty two.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
So you're just saying, have you never been on a
team with the receiver where you've heard him say, I
ain't got no deep routs this week, I ain't getting
to do this this week.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
I get what you're trying to say, Like he's not
getting the routes that he wants like or not that
he wants.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
But you're not getting a you're not getting a.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Full route tree, like all the routes are the same
ones just because you got nine But if you got
nine stops versus seven goals or seven posts and stuff
like that, it looks completely different.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Is that what you're trying to say with that?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
And I don't know.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
I mean, like I said, you one, you made this
decision when you chose to go to Philly.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Like you had Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Remember that, Remember that you won't go here, but you
went to a run offense over here.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
So now it's like, yo, bro, Like it was cool
because you was winning and you got paid. But now
that you not winning and this and that, now you
want to complain about.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
I'm from the Titans. I played for them, and I
know that that that GM that got fired. One of
the biggest one of the worst things he said he
did was getting rid of a J.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Brown.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
But of course let's go back to it because like
I said, I've been in that organization. Who is this
quarterback handy heel, Hey, I don't care, I don't care.
You never had a shot and he.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Was a wide.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Receiver turned into a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
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quarter It was a top note. First of all, he
was the top quarterback recruit coming out of his draft
class into n L. He wanted to on the field early,
so guess what he went to play receiver. History that
he was still so talented that he was able to
go back put up those numbers and still manage to
be a first round draft quarter Bill managed to go
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Speaker 5 (34:13):
Did he not? He did not earn?
Speaker 15 (34:16):
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Coach coach he hagged off that coach son on that
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Cracking right those post game interviews and everything. Bro, he
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That wasn't that wasn't not since the clip of that
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I was. I was like, I was like, what do
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That was so I knew.
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I wanted to ask you, did you see that exchange
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not the fight? Uh well, I forget her name. He
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I ain't.
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Just can't do those type of things.
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Man. What the reporters.
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It was kind of like it was, you know how halftime,
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Check it out, check it out. He did.
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Mean the moment you got to watch out with them athletes.
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And there's also a moment for him.
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we're gonna catch at the end of the first half here,
and we're going to catch you before the game or whatnot.
Kind of have a little bit of report. And then
(42:06):
since he's a new head coach, I would advise one
of the lower PR staffers whoever's on the sidelines that week, Hey,
here's what reporters so and so we'll do. And so
you could ask the network CBS, Fox, hey, can you
send us a couple of clips of whatever sideline reporter
has had with coach so we can show coach to
clip here's some things that you know you might get
(42:27):
hit with.
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they know that it's a media market. They're going for
the clickbase, so they do a pretty good job at
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We're talking about sideline reporters.
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I also look at this way, he's like shoddy where
not only the head coach you play casts, you got
a lot going on sidelines, what what you know?
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It?
Speaker 5 (43:18):
But you know you do that. Why did you shoot it?
Speaker 7 (43:21):
You guys before Lisa Saultiers is my cousin. Shout out
to Lisa and like her sideline her and her when
the court interviews have always been like one of those
things where I watch it and I'm hitting her up,
like yo, you you handle this with so much class
and the relationships that you're able to get in the
things that you're able to get out of these coaches
in that in that moment, you know what I mean?
Like I tell all the time, you should get it
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in me every year.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
You know she's of a job out that and and
once again, what you're talking about there is is someone
that's really skilled. And Lisa does so many different types
from football to basketball. She's dealt with a lot of
different personalities and sometimes it's coming upon you as the reporter.
Stand who you're dealing and how you're coming at them.
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I remember doing sidelines one time for TCU. Care Pass
is a very emotional guy, so you kind of know
where is the team winning and losing happen. And in
some ways you want to add a little tenderness into
what you're saying so people don't like, say, go take
it all the wrong way. And if it's both of
their first times kind of being around each other a
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little different. Tracy Wolfson, Tracy Wolfson's pretty good. But you
know she's done this a long time. Well let's just
start done this a long time. Some people may let's
see good show today.
Speaker 8 (44:35):
One last name, and when you're talking about Duvall, all right, Solah,
if your name out everybody's name and.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
World, you know I got not gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
It's your house.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
We just celebrated the couch. Then we leave.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
Keep my names out your mouth. G throughout the day,
solid about that.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
You see. You see what he did.
Speaker 8 (45:05):
He hit a Bay church and backpedal, and he got
to do he backed keep his name out.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
You see, he had his old Yeah, wait for him.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
The coaches meetings were ain't gonna be nobody to stop that.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Or whatever.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Exactly Monday night football.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Everybody got the Denver game.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Everybody got the Denver game.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Uh, you took the Jets. Take you took the Jets.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
We took the Dolphins. All right, That's.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
He always got.
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Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yes, in New York, on.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
The road, Jets in Carolina. So next two games are
on the road, Dolphins twenty one, Jets twenty twenty seven.
That you say, Dolphins twenty seven, Jets twenty one justin fields.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You ain't got it, Bro, Hey man, it's come up
here and do the Caleb on them.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
It's here.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
It's not as bad as he don't got it because
those these games have been really close that they've been
playing all season. Bro, And he, like ad just said,
Caleb Williams didn't have it, and guess what, you went
out there and gave him his first career game without
getting the sack. Like honestly, at this point, it's people
out there in fantasy saying, hey, whoever your receiver is,
(01:41):
I'm picking them whoever plays the Cowboys that week. So
we can't sit there and just be like, oh, oh,
and four doesn't mean anything because we said that.
Speaker 7 (01:48):
You already know anybody coming in here is looking for
the opportunity, would not even come here.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But anybody they playing over bag about this game, I'm
talking about it. He ain't got it. Like he ain't
that guy in the NFL. I ain talking about just getting.
Speaker 8 (02:00):
Off the cowboy starting quarterback in the National Football He
ain't got it, bro, Like that's it.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
You know that it takes a special team and takes
a special type of coach to develop a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
He could be a backup man in twenty years.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
You can't even say that because he's produced somewhat, And
come on, what quarterback has went to the jests recently
and been able to produce like this somewhat.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
He's in Pittsburgh, I mean Pittsburgh. He was he was
strangs for at a little bit Pittsburgh. Don't develop no quarterbacks, y'all.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
Man, when we're gonna put out playing man, playing man,
come on, man, coaches.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Ball all the time.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I said, he's shown us flashes.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Right, here's your stat.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Justin Fields has led his team to ah and twenty
five record when opponents scored at least twenty one points.
Oh and twenty five. Fields is the only winless quarterback
out of forty six quarterbacks in this sample over the
last five years with at least ten starts.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Mate, he ain't got it. He ain't got it out there.
Trade he could be a backup for he can play
for years.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
You say the numbers like that, I mean, numbers don't lie.
They don't lie, but sometimes they do.
Speaker 8 (03:09):
All know, twenty twenty five twenty five with all your
team know, we need justice.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
First of all.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Okay, say started out at the Bears. Bears didn't give
him nothing to fight with. He went to the Steelers.
Fields and some type of stuff from man.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Oh in twenty five.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And twenty five record when public score at least twenty
one points and the only winless quarterback and forty It
took forty six quarterbacks in the sample size of the
last five years and it made tenth start.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
He could be your back up, like he could come
in spot by awesome?
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Did Joe Miller?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Joe?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
He could be you know, I think he's better than Joe.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I think you better than Joe. Too bad?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Overtold Joe at this point.
Speaker 8 (03:54):
But is he a you know, top thirty two quarterback
in the league top.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
For It's debatable he could pull later in his career. Man,
you go to the right situation.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
You know, then pull the trade another thing here lately?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Try this three situationder.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Is he reviving it?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
This year?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Gino's made a Pro Bowl justin fields. Ain't doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Ain't justin fields. And that's not it.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
That's all, which is okay, made a lot of money, Yeah,
a lot of I took it for granted that she
was just talking about this week, you.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Know what I mean, but that he's not that guy. Yeah,
I can be not.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
I hope he don't be that guy this week either,
did Yeah, don't turn into that guy.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Actually twenty two you go to go to shoddy and
man twenty two points? Guys, can we get twenty good?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
If you get to anyway, you're good?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Three touchdowns and Aubrey field goal.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You're good, guys. After that, it's good.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So what we do the prediction the Cowboys which time
proof twenty two twenty one, you'll be hones.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
You know one thing that kills me about it quarterback evaluation.
Sometimes it's like, okay, so they have a book of work,
they have a catalog of work, okay, from college, and
then all of a sudden, their athleticism once they get
to the combine may push all that stuff out and
the next thing you know, he's this great athlete and
he's this, he's at he's but no, like we already
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seen it. He couldn't throw between the numbers, he couldn't
fit in tight spaces, whatever the case may be for
individual quarterbacks. But like the person that comes to my
mind is your frat brother.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he was a combine Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Yeah, I mean at Florida, he wasn't putting up no
crazy numbers.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Never did.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
But as soon as they saw that boy and his
shorts and his T shirt at the combine or his
spandexa here it.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Is, brother.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
I mean, look, you stay out of that Greek world,
like you said, like Barry said, that boy has made
a lot of money.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Watch out man Keith talking about playing football.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
You said, my friend brother. I felt like it was
a shadows brother. He is my friend.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Okay, look man, the boy had potential and it was
the first round. Then he then he went over bron lot.
He got the organization, he got that nuke dreuice and
went down here we're talking about Anthony Richards and juice
that killed kill the career backing up Daniel Jones. When
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they played, they played good against the.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Should have won again.
Speaker 8 (06:34):
You see my man, the wide receiver. I forget his name.
Anthony something is your man? You forgot his name, said y'all,
mass number ten for the coachs Wi. I didn't see
the Washington now it wasn't him, he h Anyway, he
got the past, made a couple of moves eighty yards
to the house right.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh yeah, he got to the Gold Lives. Yes almost
he did it.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
He did it to Shaun Jack.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
If I'm with it before it his own touch back.
That's seven points right there. Then Jonathan Taylor breaks off
another sixty yard brun it's not holding. Yeah, fourteen point
swing all because this dude decided to show boat and hold.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
And you hate thing I'm gonna be not even that,
just like I don't know, Like I said, maybe I
feel like because you know how when we first come
into the league, y'all, it's always old head saying, y'all
don't respect the game, y'all, don't do this, y'all, don't
do that, and you think about that type of technique.
I'm thinking about plays that I seen that could have
swung the momentum. In the San Friand and Jacksonvielle game,
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there was one time they could have downed the ball
inside the one and the guy ran down there, jumped
inside the goal line and like hit the ball and
pat everybody knows you got to re establish yourself to
knock the ball in there.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
But you're too excited. You over here show boat and celebrating.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
It's like these small techniques, which you know, getting back
to the Cowboys, what has been the biggest thing we
said in the secondary technique? Eyes and stuff like that,
and it's like, bro, what is going on with the
sloppy play? This is week four right now, Like it
should be of this show boating early and dropping the
ball and having a big cat fumble. There shouldn't be
like us over here getting the bomb over bag that
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and the coverage that is made for you to throw
the short routes, and I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
It's just it's baffling to me.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
And I'm like, man, okay, I've officially become that own
about everything.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's flapp agast. Now it's ugly. It's ugly right now.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I went the locker room yesterday, the locker.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Room tell us something good.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
They believe defensively they're close, and they said one they
got to get turnovers. But he said, we believe we're
getting close in terms.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Of they almost had to last if the force.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Figure out what they need to do in terms of communication.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So communication again, is it? It's communication? We done went
to the like I said, what was it?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
The one word word?
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Oh? So, like Barry said, then when is it gonna
be on sitting here saying is in the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
We just switched the coverage. We just went to one
word like.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's I ask questions. That's all I can do, is
all I can do?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Man, Just ask the question.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I mean, you know, you can ask the question what
top gave to play? Stop giving me the professional answer.
Stoped sitting there saying we're one play away and this
and that, oh they almost had two, Like no one
play away is if you're in one to fifteen top defense,
we're talking about your offense being number one, you're talking
about your defense being number thirty two. What are we
talking about? The turnover marginie is not close? The defense
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paralysis is not there. Like you're more than one play away, bro,
Like here are a lot of plays and if a
lot of those plays are only one miss technique one,
this and that, well, guess what the consistency here is?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
You're that way.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
They came out of a meeting. What you wanted to say?
Hey man, you come out to.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Meeting to say, hey, we got stuff to fix. This
is you can say that. You can say we got
stuff to fix. Hey man, we're onto a new week.
We're gonna learn from my mistakes and get better. But
stop telling me this one player waste stuff.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
So is it one player or is it one player
or more than one player?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Away?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
You're definitely more than one player because the cavalry it's
coming slowly. I sent you the flip of clown and uh,
can he make it some good? You know one man's side,
you know you know it a.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Little bit He didn't watch that clip.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
He didn't. I know he didn't.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
He was selfish though, But that clip I was there.
It was very d Law and Tyrone Crawford is like
very technique sound playing off each other. So you know,
maybe the cavalry is just it's coming. It's just coming
a little slow. It's not in a Mustang, it's it's
the old school Mustang.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
It's away from getting it where they need to get it.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Real horse pass and the lamps still working, baby, they's
still working.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
At least if they believe that that that's that's positive.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That is that fingers at each other, that's good.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Not put your fingers at each other. They're not saying.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
So it's still hope.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But we all know how the locker room is though.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
When cameras ain't there, my defense is I'm over it, Like, man,
I'm there up.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
You gotta keep this going.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We got scored forty a game, yacored, man. That's how I.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Would be though, Man, Tyreek Hill injury last night.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Did y'all see him celebrating at the end, I'm like, yo,
was it? Like it gave me a little So when
he got like on the cart and stuff like that,
obviously you know how people when they get these major injuries,
they usually get the thumbs up or I'm doing this
and that. He kind of had like one of those
why me but laugh like the joker moment, but then
start waving at everybody like oh, I'm going Miami like
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like like.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Is it I'm gone there? Hey, the seasons over with it.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
It's like, you know what, everything's been going wrong so
far and this is just the icing on the cake.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Maybe this is it and.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You can't do is laugh off. One of them type
deals was that sucks.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
One of my boys posted in a group and I
was like, you know, me, I'm always trying to play
advocate for the player. He was like, bro, I'm getting
tired of this. This is so Earl Thomas. And I
was like, you think so Like when Earle you know,
flicked off and he left. They was like, yo, the
same thing with Tyreek leaving and waving in Miami like
he's been such a nuisance.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
He been tired of that. Well, I think, well we are.
They had a what was it, they had a players
meeting already and if you've ever been on a team this,
I didn't know that. Yeah, So if you've ever had
been on a team where you got to lock the
coaches out and have a players meeting. I've been there before,
get what I'm saying, And fortunately for us, we were
actually able to galvanize the season and make it to
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the super Bowl. That was the year we had Callahan
when Gruden got traded, okay, and we had locked everybody
out and we just had to have that meeting. But
down there, nothing's changing, you know what I mean. And
Tyreek was already complaining before the season started going into it,
and then he was complaining last year too as well.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So yeah, I'm.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Sure that he wants to have that type of injury.
But just like you said, he was waving goodbye to
Miami once again.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
If Andy Reid is calling you with a player, do
not accept the phone call.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Don't make that trade.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He didn't got boys, He don't got plenty of cats. Man,
he didn't got him.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
He traded make the away to Washington. Ain't get nothing
out that traded a J.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Phillip A J.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Feeley to Miami for a second round pick.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Got something out to you?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
What do you get for t you?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Ti was a good catboy.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
They cut to you. They're told him to go told he's.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
My favorite Floyd.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Alex Smith to Alex Smith to Washington, but Alex Smith.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Washington. That's what he did.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
He moved, He moved Tyreek Hill on what Tyrie do I.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Mean little Alex Smith go to casino and.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
That's where he got traded from. Yeah, that's what he
destroyed his leg.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
And it says I'm good with you got rid of
Sean McCord. I mean Andy Reid has got rid of
he is not missed the beat, the man ismber Bobby Wagner.
I'm not Bobby Wager, Bobby Taylor and had the great
corners of Santi sept Guy's thanks moved on from him. Man,
Andy Reid, don't really miss So if Andy's calling you
with the players, hang up from.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Who is no?
Speaker 6 (14:22):
I was like the way you make it sound, I'm like, man,
I wouldn't even pick up his phone.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So Andy Reid, especially with a quarterback, but anybody else,
don't pick up Andy Reid call and and just just
say no, say no. I mean Tyreek Kill left for
money he wanted, so he got his read went to
Miami and you would have got unhappiness. And what did
Andy Reid continue to do whin Super Bowl wins Super Bowl.
It's tougher for him right now, but he's still won.
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And I just think of those things. Look, I'm not
you guys were players. Get the bag you want. But
at some point in time, man, if you're in a
good place like that, with a quarterback like that, you're
winning championships and then the ability to try to build
a Hall of Fame resume, right, you got, Yeah, that's
something you got to think about, something to think about.
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I mean, look at what Look how it's worked out
for Travis Kels.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh you talk about the bag off the field.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
On the field, you know they turned that into something
crazy New Wed but hall of.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Fame, Him Andrey do commercials together, everything, podcasts.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
All three of them.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Right, And so he stayed in Kansas City. They've paid him,
they've paid him well. But those are the things you
have to think about at a certain point. But when
you're in the when he like aj Brown complaining, brother,
how much you want to complain? When you're considered your
team coming into this year was considered a repeat team.
You look at the NFC right now, they're not even
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playing that well, they're undefeated. Man, you got to start
to ask yourself how much complaining do I want to
do before I run myself out of a good situation.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
After you don't get paid like that Bowl, Chail, you
pay but that but you know as well as I do,
like as much as we sitting there saying that in hindsight,
he's twenty twenty now, but in that moment, like you're
a player, like bro.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Like I want why does it have to be saying enough?
Speaker 5 (16:11):
It's hindsight.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's enough people that are in football out of football
that you could go to get some advice and say,
hey man, am I crazy?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
And he's probably right and he probably did, and those
people it depends on who's in his corner and stuff
like that. I know that it's a lot easier for
you after you don't won the Super Bowl, after you
didn't got paid, after you know that people know that
you're the top receiver in the league, like to be
a little frustrated and say, hey man, like I'm not
giving my touches. Like eventually it comes in that player's
career where they want to they want to shine, they
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want to get.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Their burn, regardless of what it is.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
And then when you be like, oh man, I wish
I would have been quiet so I could have won
a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
But I'm saying it's hard.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
It's hard to be a dude that can play at
that level and not think that he doesn't want to
contribute every week. It doesn't matter how much money you
getting as a true football player and can't know they
can't pay you a certain amount of money to shut
you up and sit you down. If you actually want
to be out there, that's that's that's just what it is,
you know what I'm saying. And you could be comfortable
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with it and be like, oh, yeah, I'm getting so
much money, but if you want to be on that field,
contributing and being part of it, and and and and
it's like, just like you said, she got caught up
in the time. It was an emotional thing and everything
else like that.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But some people ain't gonna be satisfied. Okay, they tried
that with ary loans when he got here, here's your money,
here's your money, still bitching your mind. Then they tried
to get in the catches. Well we lose, we I
mean it was never dude was never happy. Everywhere he went.
He was a firestarter.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
But anyway, but in that would make you the best player.
Sometimes being a competitor and not being satisfied like you
going in there, like I get it, Like yes, you
start fired, but you're not thinking of it that way,
like you know the game so well that it's supposed
to be coming to you.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I'm not talking about I'm not.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Going you're gonna walk, You're gonna walk. Sam heard and
and and ye.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
A meeting where these two dudes go set themselves on
fire because he wasn't happy.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
They already start moaning and growing it about the receiver rule.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
But that's just one player. We're not even talking about.
We started about he helped lead.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Well damn hirsh said a damn thing. So what about
so but we got off topic. What about Aj though
we haven't heard that about Aj. Aj has been the
quiet guy. AJ is the guy. He had the guy
the book on the side. Yeah he got he had
the book on the sideline. But he hasn't been just
publicly out here shaming people on this and that. Like
bro y'all get he had the book on the sideline.
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It was a problem. Then when he started balling, it
was like, man, he's reading on the sideline. He's so calm.
He's not ever in the media like this. He talks
about suicide. He worries about his mental life. We swing
the narrative and moved the pendulum whichever way is going
to give him. But if I'm a player, if you
if you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
They weren't thrown on the ball. So the targets last.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Game, nine targets, but was their quality targets where they
just away the scheme?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
He was getting clamped, just didn't you want the game.
He was in his hip pocket clapping him up like
the time, who was aparo?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
She don't had ten plus target bitching after game two,
He's just like, dude, if you're that guy who's never.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Had before this game, before this game, he wasn't getting
targeted like that. So yeah, you got your you got
nine targets, but you know, you know nine targets, and
you know nine targets that are made for you as
the number one guy on the team. You know what
players are drawn up, you know what Blitzer being called
for us that are designed like if you're in this scheme,
it's like, hey, we know Bobby Wagoner is going to
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get this sec Hey we know Berry Church is going
to get this.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Six defensively, offensively.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
If you're getting a target, that play is designed for
you to get the target.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Me personally, as far as AJ Brown's head coach, you know,
outside of it, I would definitely say, hey, man, look,
come hollering me about this before you take it to
the media. But I ain't gonna have no issue with
the boy wanted to be involved in the game against
problem with it against the Rams when they won thirty
three twenty six, A. J.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Brown had ten targets?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
How many receptions.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Six of for a buckle nine and a touchdown?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Did he say anything after that game? I don't know
how many yards did he have with these nine targets
last game?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Seven yards? He want to ask why he's going to
say something? But is that is that? Who else has
vaulted you get the ball to you nine times? And
you did? You can win one reception?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
How many? How many of those? How many of them?
And if he got seven, how many of those little
double covers? Though no.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Route? You ain't letting me stretch the field. I'm not
able to do this. I got nine targets for seven
yards and he two.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Of the ball to l I'm not gonnae when he did. Yeah, opportunities,
but there was some of them where he was double click.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Against against the Chiefs leading receiver in terms of targets
eight targets, five catches, twenty seven yards Davante Smith's six targets,
four catches, fifty three yards.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
The man is a part of the offense.
Speaker 10 (20:54):
He is.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
But you That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
If anything, Yeah, he's having a little bit about reorse,
like you went to a team that's gonna win and
stuff like that. You're complaining about the way that you're
winning after you didnet got your super Bowl, after you didn't,
got your big payday, and now it's like, hey, oh,
y'all don't throw nearly a monk. Well, y'all never threw
nearly enough. So I'm not gonna make the narrative of, Yo,
you're being a prima donna because you're not getting this.
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colored glasses are off now, like not at the super Bowl,
and then important to you, not at the paychecking this morning.
You realizing like, yo, we barely throw the ball, and
then when we do shoot, I ain't getting it. So
now I'm frustrated like it's a it's a different way
to spin it. Don't spin it like yo, I'm just
being self centered in like you all targets. No, I'm
not saying that he got to catch the targets that
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Speaker 5 (21:43):
And he said he want more.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You give it to it, so you want it all?
Are you not supposed to make your star players happy?
Speaker 7 (21:48):
I would they give it them the most targets.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Why these guys get it?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Dictate how?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
This was my provatarial Onis.
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as long as we win, I'm fine. But if we're
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Speaker 4 (22:31):
He had one, he had one target in the game.
One okay, one, devant takes me with that three.
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Always been the Mets starter, like stirring the pot.
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You go ahead, put your cape on you. It ain't okay,
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Speaker 6 (26:31):
You play, you play, You played to earn the right.
What do you say, like, Hey, if you want those responsibilities,
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play to that level, I should be able to do that.
That's what we do. It is like we're sitting here
complaining about a system that's been put in the place
time over time, like it ain't been done. Don't complain
about something that's there. Guess what, I'm gonna go make
the system work for me. And so guess what. We've
(26:53):
seen it time and time again, and people are happy
when they make the system work. And then once the
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this is what got you here. But Lebron made the
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(27:15):
fastest one to break all these records get to this moment.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Oh well what's now? What's stopping me from being the best? Oh?
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Jordan and Kobe, Well, now I got to go go rings.
Now that I got rings, you mad that I got
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I played the system the way it was supposed to
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Let me guide you to the promised land and the
system was working until it wasn't working. Like you get
(27:42):
there and people get mad, I'm not mad at you
doing it the way that you did it. You earned
the right to be there. So we were talking about
I'm talking about everybody. I just used it as exact. Okay,
I'm talking about I'm talking about Lebron, I'm talking about
Lebron talking about AJ Brown. I'm saying AJ has earned
the right to be one of the top receivers.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Come see you about that.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
They come see me whatever my adjrect Hey what Deonza,
it ain't. I ain't hard to find Buckie my dog.
But I'm saying, like with Aj, he earned the right.
He's one of the top receivers in the league, is
he not.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (28:16):
And he's been quiet when he was at the Titans.
Then he got to the Eagles and he was still quiet.
Then now when he started talking a little bit, it
was like, Okay, he's being a diva. But then once
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Oh he's a playmaker. Oh he's so self conscious. He
has so much emotional maturity. Now it's like, oh, here
you go. It's another they're making it to seem like
he's another Terrell Owens reincarnated right now. And that's what
(28:39):
I'm saying. That's not fair to put that narrative on
that man right now.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Okay, So okay, he.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Didn't earn the right to complain or say anything.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay, so let's let's take it that way there.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
So if they start feed force feeding them, they start,
you know, eight fifteen targets, twenty targets, but they're losing,
then then what happens.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Hey, you're on the chopping blocks. You know how it
goes in the locker room. You're gonna feed your stars
and make them happy, is it not?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Then the team loses.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
The team does loses in that in that case, and
that's where we see stuff balls down. But it's like,
it's giving take where you're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I'm gonna go with the winning.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
I'm gonna go with the winning if I'm a GM
and stuff like that. But as a player, where you
going with that mindset? If you had every team, if you're.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
On that tea, you wouldn't go with the winning side
either to.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
A certain state. He just said he wasn't. He said he.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Seemed like if you a j brown, Yeah, but if
you all the other if.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
I'm not there, yeah, if I'm a true team guy
and I want to win, yes, but we know that's
not how it goes in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Wait what how did it not go that way? If
you if you're winning and you're part of a team.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
That's the way, the whole that the winning a winning culture, yes,
but in other cultures you've been so you're telling me
every locker room you win in everybody was all team first.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Oh, I don't get this.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
Number one player never dictated what the team did for
success like that. Not one player was gonna be like, right,
we're gonna do it this way because I want this way.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
You know, I don't think they.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Just take Yeah, I didn't take it in like I
just got to have everything just make let me get
involved to as well.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
So what's the threshold, That's what I say, because you'
getting nine targets, you're getting ten targets, you're getting eight targets, you.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Got nine target seven yard And then you said and.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Then I don't know what week it was before he's happy,
Before he had ten one hundred and something yards on
ten targets, one hundred and siven yards on ten targets.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So he got and then the next week they gave
him nine targets.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Think with me.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
Right here, Yeah, I got ten targets for one hundred
some yards. Now I got nine for seven We're in there.
Did those routes change up? And the and the way
that I was implemented into the game, there's.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
A whole But like that, what was the defense doing right?
Speaker 7 (30:44):
It could be the defense or it could be the
route selection in the routes that he was told to
run that game. We don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
I think I think before this game it would I
felt like it was a combination.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
This last game he got locked up. Like yeah, but.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
That's why I said it's a given tech situation, bro, Like,
because I'm saying that it.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Can't be everyone else's fault.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
It's not anyone else can't.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
If I'm gonna if I'm the head coach, first of all,
like you said, you go talk to your players, I'm
gonna go talk to him and say, hey, don't be
doing this out of here in the media. One, I'll
work on giving you some of your favorite routes and
incorporating this more. But also with that being said, brou One,
don't be out there in the media to keep everything
in the house. Three, most importantly, be effective with what
you have right now, because I'm giving you nine like
(31:31):
you said, you're giving him ten like his AJ Brown
is not a single target guy. He is a double
digit target guy.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
So targets.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Last week from Philly, AJ Brown with nine Dallas guarded
with four targets, caught, four passes, Barkley four targets, caught,
four passes, DeVante Smith two targets, caught, two passes, uh
Grant Calcatar two targets, one catch, John Mitchie two targets,
two catches, and will Shipley give me some yard targets
(32:07):
you want? Okay, how many.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Yards did Davonte Smith have on his reception twenty nine?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Two for twenty nine and along was twenty.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
He was effective, That's all I hear from said.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Four catches thirty seven yards with a long of twenty two.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
So you're just saying, have you never been on a
team with the receiver where you've heard him say, I
ain't got no deep routs this week, I ain't getting
to do this this week.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
I get what you're trying to say, Like he's not
getting the routes that he wants like or not that
he wants.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
But you're not getting a you're not getting a.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Full route tree, like all the routes are the same
ones just because you got nine But if you got
nine stops versus seven goals or seven posts and stuff
like that, it looks completely different.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Is that what you're trying to say with that?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
And I don't know.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
I mean, like I said, you one, you made this
decision when you chose to go to Philly.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Like you had Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Remember that, Remember that you won't go here, but you
went to a run offense over here.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
So now it's like, yo, bro, Like it was cool
because you was winning and you got paid. But now
that you not winning and this and that, now you
want to complain about.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
I'm from the Titans. I played for them, and I
know that that that GM that got fired. One of
the biggest one of the worst things he said he
did was getting rid of a J.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Brown.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
But of course let's go back to it because like
I said, I've been in that organization. Who is this
quarterback handy heel, Hey, I don't care, I don't care.
You never had a shot and he.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
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Speaker 5 (33:46):
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Speaker 6 (33:48):
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quarter It was a top note. First of all, he
was the top quarterback recruit coming out of his draft
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Man. What the reporters.
Speaker 8 (41:13):
It was kind of like it was, you know how halftime,
you know, the coaches talk and she's asking questions. Yeah,
and he thought she said like your team needs to
do needs to do some changes or something like that,
and he took that. He was like, oh that's what
he ain't He just kind of death stared her.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
And like kind of.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Check it out, check it out. He did.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
He did, He apologized, man, to So I.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Mean the moment you got to watch out with them athletes.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
And there's also a moment for him.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
I would say the next time there's a production meeting,
first off, the public relations person needs to be in
there have a conversation with the sideline reporter about, you
know what, how they will go about the business of it. Hey, coach,
we're gonna catch at the end of the first half here,
and we're going to catch you before the game or whatnot.
Kind of have a little bit of report. And then
(42:06):
since he's a new head coach, I would advise one
of the lower PR staffers whoever's on the sidelines that week, Hey,
here's what reporters so and so we'll do. And so
you could ask the network CBS, Fox, hey, can you
send us a couple of clips of whatever sideline reporter
has had with coach so we can show coach to
clip here's some things that you know you might get
(42:27):
hit with.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Do they not do with that organization, because I feel
like they do that with most or at least I
know what, or at least the big organizations I've been around.
I feel like with New York Cowboys and stuff like that,
they know that it's a media market. They're going for
the clickbase, so they do a pretty good job at
preparing people along the way.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
We're talking about sideline reporters.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
You normally don't have clickbait sideline reports, and for the
most part, they're pretty they're pretty generic and easy. But
when you're when you're right, I think so to be
a new it's it's got you, she's I mean, and
I also look at this way, he's like shoddy where
not only the head coach you play casts, you got
a lot going on sidelines, what what you know?
Speaker 6 (43:07):
And that can hit you like it's hard to switch
you that what you saw.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
It?
Speaker 5 (43:18):
But you know you do that. Why did you shoot it?
Speaker 7 (43:21):
You guys before Lisa Saultiers is my cousin. Shout out
to Lisa and like her sideline her and her when
the court interviews have always been like one of those
things where I watch it and I'm hitting her up,
like yo, you you handle this with so much class
and the relationships that you're able to get in the
things that you're able to get out of these coaches
in that in that moment, you know what I mean?
Like I tell all the time, you should get it
(43:41):
in me every year.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
You know she's of a job out that and and
once again, what you're talking about there is is someone
that's really skilled. And Lisa does so many different types
from football to basketball. She's dealt with a lot of
different personalities and sometimes it's coming upon you as the reporter.
Stand who you're dealing and how you're coming at them.
(44:03):
I remember doing sidelines one time for TCU. Care Pass
is a very emotional guy, so you kind of know
where is the team winning and losing happen. And in
some ways you want to add a little tenderness into
what you're saying so people don't like, say, go take
it all the wrong way. And if it's both of
their first times kind of being around each other a
(44:24):
little different. Tracy Wolfson, Tracy Wolfson's pretty good. But you
know she's done this a long time. Well let's just
start done this a long time. Some people may let's
see good show today.
Speaker 8 (44:35):
One last name, and when you're talking about Duvall, all right, Solah,
if your name out everybody's name and.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
World, you know I got not gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
It's your house.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
We just celebrated the couch. Then we leave.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
Keep my names out your mouth. G throughout the day,
solid about that.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
You see. You see what he did.
Speaker 8 (45:05):
He hit a Bay church and backpedal, and he got
to do he backed keep his name out.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
You see, he had his old Yeah, wait for him.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
The coaches meetings were ain't gonna be nobody to stop that.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Or whatever.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Exactly Monday night football.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Everybody got the Denver game.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Everybody got the Denver game.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Uh, you took the Jets. Take you took the Jets.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
We took the Dolphins. All right, That's.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
He always got.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
He's been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and
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