June 5, 2025 • 47 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Gaming the ten win Dallas Co.
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According to Barry, Yeah you see me on that we
have blue bags, Blue Magic.
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Barry Church from a Cowboys station on Blue Magic.
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Texas A and M graduate Agricultural leadership degree. He his
find new Pace communication see my man North Texas, Me
and Green.
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He is the nephew of the.
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Greatest defensive tackle in professional football history, met Joe Grease.
He's Hackma Harrison soon to be. It's going to be
an Emmy winner.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Let's go big.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Also, father, let's get into one of the best wide
receivers in Texas.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Let you know, right now, right now, let him get
one of the bags they handed out of Texas Tech.
By that softball girl a million dollars, the lead million dollars,
a million dollars in the National championship, ran right now,
a million dollars. She left Stanford real fast.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's not a bag, you know what.
Speaker 7 (01:44):
When and then when the bag pays off, when it
pays off, it's one thing to give the bag and
the bag not pay off. But this is one of
those situations where they targeted someone that absolutely came in
and changed the whole dynamic of their program.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
And you know, every softball coach American's room to get
text tech.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Hell yeah, yes, like hook them.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Texas to win in the worst way.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Texas won Game one by the way, two to one,
and in a good, good game for there.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, baby, they gave her.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Techrought.
Speaker 7 (02:17):
That's a lot of It's a lot of dads just
went to their daughter's room and say, come on now,
get up right now, get up right.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right now, brother, with stuff. I keep that going.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
The other coaches are like, I should have break then
went on.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Exactly.
Speaker 8 (02:35):
It hurt me to say, you might want to watch
out for tech because the guy that took over like
that whole investment group to pay that girl of a
million dollars, you think they're about to do in them.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Other sports, the football team.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
They invest in the football team. So this is players
stress a.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Whole lot to get to the Dallas Cowboys here, all right.
So I want to throw something. I want to throw
something over NBC. So you know, yeah, no, no, no, no,
well no it's it's it's Pro Football.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
Talks favorite no ps.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
NBC. Lo.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
So Chris Sims comes out with his quarterback rank.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Wow, Chris Sim's forming trip lately, even trip lately, even
tripping lately lately.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
By lately he tripped all the time. He tripped all
the time. He got a little bit of tripp trip out.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
So he's talking about he's got his rankings out there.
You know, he got his rankings, his quarterback rankings, and
we got him down in tears and breakdowns ahead of
the season. And so I wanted to see where Dak
Prescott was, you know, where do you have him?
Speaker 8 (03:53):
Man?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
What's he thinking?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
And so when it comes to Dak, he's got he's
got is after the needs more info. He wouldn't need
more info, guys, which you said was Michael Pennix and
Drake May.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Then he gets to is this it question mark number one?
On the is this it?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
And he says a tier of He says, a tier
of trio of quarterbacks who are once considered rising stars.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Now they are fighting for their NFL futures. And he
has Dak no.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, away
right now, it'll finish. Come on, yeah, say Worth, pff bag.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't be that extreme.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
So let me read the three guys and what he
has to say. The first is Dak Prescott. Yeah, he said,
there are a few quarterbacks more divisive than Prescott. Sims
is underwhelmed about the thirty one year old, declaring that
his release is slow and his anticipation is not great.
Then he goes into Tua Tugue of Ilo of Miami
and he says Tua has played in just one postseason
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game in his career, a twenty six to seven loss
to the Chiefs in twenty twenty four. Simms likes a
lot about to his game, but he's very concerned about
the quarterbacks ability to play big game football. And then
the final one in his tier is Trevor Lawrence the
Jacksonville Jaguars. Says Lawrence is one of the most difficult
players to rank because there's an unbelievable talent in him,
but there's way too many misthrows. New head coach Liam
(05:17):
Cohen has a ridd in Jacksonville, will attempt to fix
his franchise quarterback.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
However, at the end of the.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Day, it's going to be on Lawrence And so that's
the tier he put him in.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
What are the other tiers? And who else is on
this list before before I.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
So it's a lot like he's got ready to launch,
Like he's got a whole thing like ready to launch.
He's got like bo Nix and Caleb Williams right there.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Then he's got the.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
More info guys, and he's got the don't forget about me,
that's Kirk Cousins. He's in category and he's got a
category call Escape from New York.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Which I'm done enough with the clickbait, enough with the clickbase.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
But just back to Dak, you know, he back to
he He says he's fighting for his NFL future and
that he's underwhelmed by Die and then he says Dax
releases slow and his anticipation, you want me to.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Look at me in this camera.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
I hate I hate when people say stuff like this
just to do clickbait, to sit here and say, this
man is fighting for his NFL future.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Do you know what type of contract he has?
Speaker 8 (06:24):
Do you know what type of teams will pay for
Dak Prescott right now? That one of those teams being Miami,
the guy that you mentioned on there too. So for
you to sit here and say that, oh, he's fighting
for his NFL future like that is absurd, Like just
because you're tired or you're getting used to seeing something
like that, you don't let talent like that go that
is generational, Like he's not I'm sorry, I'm not gonna
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say he's not generational talent, but he is a proven
starter in this league. You don't just give that up
for tools and fuels and sit here and say that, oh,
because he's thirty one, Oh his time releases and is
slow and stuff like that, like stop it, bruh, Like, yes,
he hasn't formed up to the ceiling that people are
saying going to the super Bowl and this and that,
but he's been he's tooking his team to the playoffs,
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he's showing that he's had the number one offense multiple
times throughout his career and then you're gonna sit here
and say that a healthy death Dak Prescott. I'm sorry
that to say his career is over. I hate when
you put that narrative on people because then once that
narrative gets there, it starts a snowball.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Like, don't do that talk the facts, don't just do clickbait.
N I'm with you on this.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
And you know, like I said before, you sims be
tripping sometimes, and he was tripping on this one.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
You know, I get on.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Dak a lot when you talk about playoffs and all
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I understand that, but you got to be able to
get to the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
And with Dak Prescott, we're just what a year or
two remove for him being second in the MVP voting.
You know, it's like, what are we saying here? This
is also a man that rattled off with a three
straight twelve and twelve win seasons. I mean, this is
a guy that you know, his playoffs, he has the
same amount of wins as maybe what Lamar Jackson to
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the playoffs, maybe one win behind him. And we're talking
about this man being you know, his NFL future being
at stake. I don't agree with that at all, does
he need to you know, be more healthy and win
more in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Of course he does.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
But there's a lot of quarterbacks out there that wish
they had the same resume as a Dak Prescott. So
to me, this is you know, Sims tripping once again.
When you put that Cowboys name up there, people are
going to click in and want to look at it.
But overall, you know, Dak is far from being done
in this league. And to me, you know, a lot
of NFL franchises will want to have four as their
signal caller back there.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Ye.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Well, Chris Sims, son of Super Bowl champion Phil Sims,
you know he probably has. He has made statements throughout
his career as an analyst that I have not agreed with.
I mean when I say, when I think of ass
hat he's in a conversation, some of the things that
he says, and it's like, you know, I think, and
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I'm not even playing Devil's advocate here, because you know
that I have officially defended Dak for years and years
and years, and I think when it what people are
starting to put together is the culmination of his work
and what he's done.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
They're saying all right, ten years in this thing.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
This is as far as you've gone have is this
It is this your ceiling. And we've always talked about
force multipliers, guys to come in and make other people better.
I don't think that, no, they've ever looked at Dak
in that in that realm to say, Okay, he is
a quarterback like Jalen Hurt, like like Hurts, that needs
to have those pieces around him.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But when you think about the jump that.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Jalen Hurts has made, it has been because he has
had the talent around him him to propel him to
the Super Bowl m v P Saquon Barkley in other
in other words, yeahj aj Brown. But what I'm saying
is you start to see when an organization gives a
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player that has those limited tools. As far as nobody's
ever said, oh my god, DA's you've never come away
from a game saying, O, man, great crows, great moments,
but the game where you like it is all on display.
I think Dak is what he is, and I think
as an organization you have to understand even with the
injuries that he suffered, mechanics and all that that Chris
(10:15):
Sims was talking about if you saw twenty five minutes,
pretty good man. He talks about his mechanics and all
of that. I think right now this this front office
needs to put the pieces. George Pickens is in. They
re signed ceedee lamb. You have your your tight end
and mcferg maybe you bring in, you bring in a
offensive line. Your offensive line is is much better. I
(10:37):
think your running back group is going to be much
better than it was last year. So therefore, I think
you're gonna see the better version of Dak Prescott because
now you're giving him the weapons to work with.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And he's a better QB than Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Just so let's go off the top peer QB.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
But he is a better peer QB and throw it up.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
You know Bill Parcells want said for the rest of
your life, they can never say.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
You couldn't get it done.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
He got it done.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I got a Super Bowl trophy.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
It's on no.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Matter what, take that and I cannot take that from.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I can't be mad at that. But you are a
fat guy, are you not?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
At the end of the day, Rick Flair said, you
want to be the man, you gotta beat the man.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
He is the man. But if you had if you
had a choice of starting your organization about starting.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Walk in the building with a ring, and certainly I
respect them, so he considered it. He and Patrick Mahomes
can sit up in the same club drinking that champagne.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
No, no, Patrick, in a different club. It's the same
super Bowl club.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
The super Bowl Club with the ring ringing the Champions
Club in the Champions Club.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
So thank you, thank.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
You, But pat, Patty, and that he up there you
knocking on Tom doing saying.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Hey, you know he can go to the VP of
the Hall of Fame club, but the Champions Club, Jalen
Hurst is in there.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I'm sorry, man, That's what happened. When you talk about
your little doggy.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Friends, we won't talk about Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Fighting. He fighting thetal the rebuttal to that is.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
So I go back to this point about what mister
sim said, slow release.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yep, how do we feel about that?
Speaker 7 (12:41):
You know what I think after the injury, that is
something that I worry about because obviously, with age you
got to slow down, right and I think with an
hamstring injury on a quarterback that was already dealing with
an ankle issue, he's gonna move slower. But even in
that when he said about his slow release and criticizing
(13:01):
him about that, he also praised Dak.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
For his patients. So you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
You can say, hey, I love it, I love his
patience and his ability to read release, but he has
those low release.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, but I love his patients.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
But he also got on Dak about choosing like if
he has a Humbo route, choosing the underneath routes the
short stuff and not allowing the other stuff to come open, right,
And so it's a it's a big contradiction in what
he's making of it. But I think as when I
look at Dak over when I look forward to seeing
Dak this season, I want to see how he moves
because man, after having surgery on your hamstring, you know
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that is that's going to be a big deal for him,
especially his mechanics and his release.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Also, what a healthy old line like what we see
what Dak has guys in front of him, MAC can
protect him.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
He can put up great numbers.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
I mean we've seen it, like was it two years
before when he was second MVP the Matthew thirty seven
touchdown passes.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
All right, limited interceptions.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
He went from fifteen interceptions the year before to you know,
I was killing him, brought him way back. And in
this past year, how many times did we see lookout blocks?
Hey man, look out, he's about to get you, Like
you know, he can't sit there and let the routes
develop and it being able to hit those deep shots.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But he got guys breathing on his neck.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
I think he'll have a better offensive line to protect
them a little bit more and you'll be able to
see that Dak Prescott that we've seen from years.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Two rookies on the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Last year with one rookie basically failing the test to
tackle and Tyler Guyton came out and owned it. He
owned it last week and said, you know, yeah, I
wasn't where I needed to be so so so yes,
you're bringing up a valid fair point to say, hey,
look what could he do if given the weapons and protection.
(14:43):
I go back and I look at Jared Goff of Detroit.
Sean McVay let him go despite him going to a
super Bowl with and he's like, man, I can't get
it done with this guy. So he goes to Detroit
and a lot of people are like, hell, you know, okay,
he's here, but Brad Holmes, the GM's on excellent.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Joh They have a very good offensive line.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
The big thing was like, hey, if you want to
get to golf, go at the middle on him. They've
protected him there. They've done a very good job the
weapons that he has from an offensive standpoint, the wide receiver,
the tight end. Use a first round pick to upgrade
the tight end. You got first round picks running back.
They've done what they did for Peyton Manning in Indianapolis.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I tell people all the time, look at.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
How many first round picks Bill Pollian put around Peyton.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Man There was a bunch of them.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Edgern James Dallas Clark, Anthony Gonzalez, Anthony Wayne Reggie, Wayne Marvin.
It was just tons and tons. Ken do I mean
he just kept bringing first round and high draft picks
to put around Peyton man as they should have. By
the way, you know, on the offensive line as well.
How many times are you doing that for Dak Prescott?
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Are you giving Dak Prescott what they did in Detroit
or even in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I think if you asked that.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Question, you could say the cow Boys have not to
the extreme that we saw in Philly.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Indy or Detroit for their quarterback.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
No, they they definitely haven't done to that extreme of
that magnitude. I think that's been the knock on them
for years.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Just growing up in Dallas, like you always said, hey,
can we bring in somebody?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And then you bring in one guy.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
But this is the first time I was saying this offseason,
we see them making that attempt to do that. You
have your first round pick in Ceed Lamb. You have
a first round pick in George Picking bringing him in there.
You have another first round pick that you bring in
with the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You bring in.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
A guy that go his offense is predicated off of
the run, and then his quarterback has had that success.
You're starting to see the foundation of them trying to
build around that and go to his strengths. He's never,
like you said, he's never been the guy that had
the big arm and stuff like that. But he's been
the guy that can have thirty seven touchdowns, that can
lead have the number one offense in the league with
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less weapons around him. So now that you're starting to
do that and build that foundation, I say, give them time,
but I think this is going to be the time.
So for him to make that getting back to Chris Silm,
for him to make that comment, it's like, Brah, if anything,
you should have had him on. This is the make
or break if that's the case, because now with them
actually bringing in the weapons and doing all that stuff,
then you can maybe start trying to put a narrative
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on him. But to say that he's already done that
was completely far less.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I said the last yeah, real quick.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
And when you make the reference about golf, and I
think that's really the department that I want to put
out the where I want to keep dak. When you
look at Detroit those years where they were just horrible
and stacking those first round picks. So it's different, man,
when you're bringing in a guy that's top five picking
in the draft versus the guy that you're getting at
nineteen or twenty as far as the pick you're getting,
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and those twelve and five seasons led way to them
getting those later round picks in the first round, and
again it's no excuse. You have to be more strategic
about the guys that you get. But man, Detroit has
been able to go out there and get the pick
of the litter when it comes down to those first
round picks.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
He Knewson made a living out a twenty picks in
the twenty somethings for years, and one of them being
Lamar Jackson in the thirties. So Cowboys, having no issue
from their first round picks have done a very good
job there. I just go back and look in terms
of how intentional have you been about it with Dak
Prescott versus the other clubs who have all Right, let's
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Win, seven and a half win team.
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You're hedging your best right there, make wins seven and eight.
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You know, do you need to win or do you
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Speaker 8 (23:51):
I didn't walk into the statement. You look, man, I
told you. I said he's impossible, He's impressionable. I know
I'm not. I'm hey, hey, Christ, roll back the clip,
roll back to roll back the clip of what I said.
I said, seven in the possible. But give me your
training camp, I said, I can see it happening.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
They have the pieces show nothing hold on.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Alone, y'all do to see yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I don't come on, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
You mean I started to really do this.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
I told you what I said based off of last
year at seven in the Possible, but with the tools
that they're adding around him and.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Stuff like that and poticilarly. Let me see, I said,
let me see camp to eight right now. First, I'm sticking.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Say seven in the Possible. You're taking myself?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That was me? First? What hold on? Did I not
give the Spades analogy on here the Golden Book?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I said, possibly, like Danny Craig, go pull it up.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Chris Chris put on it.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Chris always covered.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
I got myself, got about my phone, about Twitter, go
to Twitter.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Put that episode. I was, I love.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
You really don't know how long we've been doing this show.
That's I don't know. Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
So the bottom line, you sitting around this man got
you thinking, you.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Know about it?
Speaker 5 (25:30):
You're thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I thought, I think about a lot of things. Somebody's
gonna renig hm hmm. Let wont be.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
You're the only ones you You're the only one that's
in the books. Don't put me in the book.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And after that, I'm in the book. I'm in the book.
It can't be into get me to training.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Okay, all right, let's let's get back in the matter
at hand. Here, Treyvon Diggs could possibly for for a
half million dollars a lot of bredoms by the off
season workout routine he's deciding to pursue. He's spending a
lot of time in Miami. He's not here at the contracts.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
They take.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
You get your half million dollars, You do your little
They want to see you. They want to see a
face when they got you all that money. We need
to see a face walking around the building. Shot your
fight you want to say, fight, Church explained to the viewers.
(26:35):
How long do you have to be up here during
these ot as?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Oh whatever, Well it depends what five days.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
A week here'd be working out.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
How many days it depends on your car. So for me,
I had a stipulation. I had to be at eighty
percent or whatever it was when you come to tha s. Yeah,
and to me, I mean, I wasn't going anywhere away.
I wouldn't forfit numb money even if it was a thousand.
We know, we know, but.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
You just got to be Tuesday was a Thursday Tuesday
was Thursday.
Speaker 10 (27:06):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Not all week, not all week, notf the weekend, not Monday.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Tuesday was it Thursday.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
And we're pretty close to the airport boom two hours
of the go to Tuesday was a Thursday.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You just got to be and then you get the
rest of your time to do what you gotta do.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
So Miami's open on Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Especially on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
Correct, correct, it is it is, It is open, And if.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
You wanted to train with somebody, and you somebody in Miami,
you definitely go.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Considering he's a multiple that type of bread.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Definitely that training staff will probably available on Friday Saturday.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So great, I just yeah, I don't I understand it.
Let me let me play Devil's Advocate for the voiceless.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Oh, I just yeah, you sews yeah, black cart. But
with that being said, yes, he can't get out of here,
he can do all those things.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
But but.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
You got to ask yourself, why are you doing that?
Like this ain't just some chump change one? Is it pride?
And is it ego? And do you feel untouchable and
realizing that this is untangible, are you going down there
for training purposes. We see that your brothers having fun
and doing certain things at a certain level, like all
that stuff plays a factor into it. Like if my
circle is saying, Hey, we about to go out of
(28:22):
the country and go party and do this and that,
guess what, I'm gonna be more inclined to do that.
If I if my circle says, hey, you know what,
I'm gonna stay over here at the facility and you
at the facility, I'm not about to just have my
authourage and be like, all right, I'm gonna go do
this Like I'm gonna be more inclined to go do that.
So if you want to, you ask yourself. A lot
of these things can play a part into it. But ultimately,
(28:45):
if he's a smart man, I hope that he's pulling
the Ray Lewis. I hope that he's like, hey, man,
I'm doing this because I need to go be by
myself and get into that dungeon and just lock back
into where I can go do something.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It's a possibility we don't know what he's doing.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
But but that you got Pete Ba. But with that
being said, once you get to a certain level, we
all know that there's those players that make enough money
to where they have their own regimens. Aaron Rodgers would
go out the country and go do whatever he did. Well,
that's such a bad comp's that's not a bad thing
for his overall body of working.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
I'm just talking about at this stage in his career,
which is, oh, yeah, you're good, you finished with now
you're good. Like I'm just all I'm saying is like me, personally,
I don't think he should be down there. I think
perception is everything, especially when you don't there's so many
questions about the defense.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Who's going to be the leader?
Speaker 8 (29:39):
Is Michael Parsons the face of it, This can be
your chance to cement yourself as the leader of the
Dallas Cowboys defense. Being a former leader in interception, There's
so many things that you could be doing in.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
The right direction now.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Also, like I said, I just played Devil's advocate because
I'm saying he could be doing this for whatever reason.
It could be personal reasons. We don't know because he
has not talked to us. But give him the dignity
of doing that. He is a proven player and a
proven started in this league. And if the Cowboys, if
you don't hear Stephen Jones or Jerry Jones out here,
because we know Jerry says what's on his mind. If
you don't hear Jerry saying he needs to get down
(30:13):
here and this is a big distraction, then it might
not be as big a distraction as we're making it
to be.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But it's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
What's understood don't need to be stated in situations like this.
And you've already signed your deal and you already know
you talked about the eighty percent of whatever it is.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
You have to be here for OTAs. I understand that
athletes are superstitious and you know, for whatever reasons, whoever, whatever,
all a liniment you've been you had on you, I
get it right, but you have to show up. This
is This is Brian Schottenheimer's first ota IS as a
head coach, and he is building Trayvon Diggs. Was it
(30:51):
twenty twenty one where he set the record eleven interceptions?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
That was at the year? I want to say that
was it, But he and Deron Bland, these are two.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
These are two guys that we haven't been able to
see play at the same time, and injuries have derailed
that for both of these guys. And finally we're at
a place, even coming off of the injury that he
had last season, where both of these guys could tip
may be healthy for the beginning of the season. That
would be huge for the Dallas Cowboys defensive would be
huge for the psyche of this team and an organization
(31:22):
and fan base. And I think he's missing an opportunity.
I don't understand for the half a million, Like you know,
I'm being able to make it up on the back
end or somewhere else. That's a half a million today,
not tomorrow. And that is what I don't think is
smart for him in a from a business aspect. But
I want when I see these these videos of these
(31:44):
clips of him rehabbing, I'm like, Okay, that's cool, But
where you need to be is here with this Dallas
Cowboys rehab with these doctors here and working with the
team and understanding and getting the vibe for the just
overall aura that they're building here in this environment.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And he's missing out on that.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
So, according to Calvin Waking, he quotes Dixon's contract, sayce
he loses a half million dollars of his nine million
dollars space salary if he doesn't complete at least eighty
four percent of the workouts. And he also says, with
these organized team activities which are voluntary right now, the
team is ninety five percent of the team is here
working out right now. And he goes on to say
(32:23):
it's not a good look. That's a Calvin Waker will say, hey,
it's not a good look. And he also talks about
Parsons not being here. But I think we all know
and understand Michael Parsons is a stratespy or that that digs,
and he's not coming off of injuries.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
And that's the and that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
He is not coming off of injury, injuries, and that's
why me personally do I think he should be here
coming off of injury. On top of that, Micah not
being here, like I said, this is the chance to
solidify yourself, like if you plan on playing however much
longer and going to get that bag, like this is
the opportunity where like, hey, Michael's not here. We know
why he's not going to be here, but now we're
(32:56):
looking for our next big name and that's star leader.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And so that's.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Where I feel like he's doing himself a disservice. But
not even even if you didn't come every single day,
like you said, Let's get this straight, it is voluntary
at least if you showed up two out of the
three days. Because we all know those vets that when
you came into the locker room and it's like, oh,
I got to leave out at the end of the
week to go take care of this and that, like
you need to be here in some form and capacity.
(33:21):
But I also know that certain guys when they wasn't here,
you looked at them and said.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Hey, like, oh, I know why he's not here.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
And so my question is, has he proven to people
that he's a guy that don't need to be here
right now?
Speaker 6 (33:35):
And you got a new defensive coordinator, you know that
you got to figure out the defensive coordinator. And not
only that, you put more pressure on yourself. I mean,
cause if you come in in the beginning of the season,
you don't have football field, you don't ball out.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
We all know how it works. We all know how
it worked outside.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
But people in the building, we know they gonna be like, oh,
I told you he ain't a worker. You're gonna get
that narrative started. So it's a lot of pressure you
putting on yourself.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Go ahead, man, quote the great Darren Hambrick and Chris Being.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
You were there when he said this, what do voluntary mean?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
We know what it means, mean what it means, and so.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Like a Parsons voluntary, it's gonna be different.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Diggs is voluntary, then Guiden's voluntary.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Dak Prescott wife had a baby last week.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Next day he's still here.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
And that's and that's what's gonna make it bad for
you to say, like, oh, this man just had a
baby and he showed up the very next day here
and accountable. It's like people look at you or so,
Like I said, perceptions everything, and it's like the great
Bill Parcell, like I just had to play double's advocate
and say I would hope that it's a great reason
he's doing it, like Ray Lewis, because people understood if
(34:51):
Ray wasn't in the building, everyone in the building, it's
because of that. But I'm going to sit here and
say that for you to be gone, you're messing up
your duckies. Bill Parcell came in there and said, hey,
one day I had a backup quarterback. He was sleeping
my meeting He said, I walked over there, woke him
up and fired him. When the media asked him where
was he at and it was time to talk to him,
he said he was sleeping my meeting. He didn't want
(35:12):
to be here and that was a disrespect to me.
A reporter asked him and said, what would you done
at Dalls Philipson? He said that Philip sim you know
what I did. I'd have walked over there just like
I did the other cat, and I had have tapped
him on the shoulder just like I did him, and
I said, hey, you need a pillow.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
When Ray Lewis was this Ray Posts Super Bowl MVP
Ray and established you.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Earned your right, that's why.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
But I did I not just say a few minutes ago,
And you got to ask yourself, like.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
To other people, has he earned that right? But to
himself obviously.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
He feels like what s what ses me is the
perception because the perception is not always reality, and you
can't overcome that. You know, as as football players, you
got your helmet on, nobody's hearing what you're saying, so
you could be perceived. However, the media and everybody else
is saying it. You're talking about Hey, first game of
(36:05):
the season out there versus the Philadelphia A. J. Brown
burns you on an eighty yard bomb? What is everybody
going to talk about? And it's gonna beat it in
the building?
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Seen like cats didn't come around and Henna be ready
for But that's a that's.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Another question and you cannot answer that because he's not
in the building. You don't know that, and that's those
are questions that you need to have answered because Hey, I.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Don't know about yild but in two more months it
gets funky.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Got to get a break break in here when we
come back, it's still not done. The Michael Parsons steal.
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Speaker 4 (40:06):
You guys, got anybody in the league. Now, you got
anybody in the league, Okay, do a lot of them. Quiet,
we got a lot of your quarterback now the league?
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Bro?
Speaker 8 (40:17):
You you focused on one person, man, like how many
cute dogs y'all.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Got out here?
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Focused on the dude that it ain't illegally, I just
asked you about who's in there now, Man, we ain't
got to do We ain't got to do a man
while y'all doing the you know, okay, the break off
we talked about that.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I do not like that.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Boy here likes barking.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Words. I could have way, I could have the ball.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Here things.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
We don't do that.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
About.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I mean.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Today hopefully the Q still got a fraternity. Let's do it, man,
Come on, Michael Parsons needs to get paid, need to
get paid.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Jones got sensitive this week a little bit, MANA all
the questions, you know, the questions are coming. Yeah, And
that's the part that he was frustrated about taking the
question what else is there going to be asked right now?
Because you're going down the same road again. A key
player who must be signed, A key player who the
(41:45):
defensive coordinators would love to have right here in the
OTA so they can get to know him, he gets
to know them. We saw last year Mike Zimmer speaking
about some of the challenges that he had in bringing
in his new defense and trying to make the pieces fit.
There was not one hundred percent buy in last year
from guys. So why not make sure your best defensive player,
your weapon, is happy, signed and plugged in with the
(42:07):
new coaches. That's the part for me that I just say, like, man, guys,
get this done. Hasn't gotten done yet?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
What you think, man, Man, you gotta get that done. Man. Whoever,
it's time, what it's time to make you playing happy.
Speaker 8 (42:20):
It's time to roll out the red the red coats,
like the red carpet, whatever you want to call it,
whatever analogy. You got to make them happy, Like why
why not? Especially when they're proven, like he's proven that
he's a premier pass rusher, your defensive coordinator on them,
They're like, you're missing your jail right now, Like why
not bring Batman in here right now? And you have
the legion of you're trying to form the super Friends
(42:42):
right now. You can't even do that because Batman's not
here to take off.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
So I think the frustration, the frustrating thing is that
is the theatrics of the contracts. Each and every season,
you have guys that need to get signed. You know this,
prior to I'm gonna say, Tyler Smith needs to get
taken care of.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Deron Bland is gonna be you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
So all of these guys that are going to be
reaching the platform, how are those gonna be taken over?
And with Micah's deal to me, and seemingly it seems
easy because you're gonna make him one of the highest
non quarterbacks in the league. So get to the numbers
and this whole back and forth about who's his agent,
and you know, like, look, you know exactly who his
(43:23):
agent is. The deal should already be done by now.
And if we extend this all the way through camp
and have to go through this with michaeh especially like
again with Brin Schoenhamer's first year as a head coach,
that would be disappointing to me for it to be
right before the.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Philadelphia Eagles game.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Michael Parsons is now back in the locker room because
you know that this can get messy, and they can
ill afford for this to get messy, especially with this
new coaching staff.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I agree with y'all. He needs to be paid.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
I agree to one hundred percent. The one thing I'm
saying for the owners is they I don't believe they
want this to be like the NBA. Like the NBA
is a player driven they strong arm, Hey, I want
to get traded.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Hey, I want to go here, I want to go there.
I'm strong arm in everybody. They don't.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
I don't believe the owners want the NFL to be
like that. So how many years Michael Parsons got left?
He has what this year? And if you're an option,
if you know well they will be next year is
the fifth next year? If you're so, I mean, I
get from the owner's perspective, they don't want to be
strong armed like this, this is our league. We will
let you understand when when we want you all to
get paid. But I agree with y'all one hundred percent.
You don't want this to snowball until it's it's a
(44:26):
situation where you got pay the man forty five mil
or something crazy like that.
Speaker 8 (44:29):
And that's the biggest thing is about Like it's like
my dad used to always say, I'm not about to
have a pisson match, Like at the end of the day,
play the game within the game, play chess and not checkers.
And so from the owner's perspective, yes, you don't want
it to be a player driven league. But also from
an owner's perspective, if I'm an owner, I'm gonna say, hey,
and hey, they get paid far more than me.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
It's the reason why they're in the cease that they're in.
Speaker 8 (44:51):
But if I'm playing Madden at home on my franchise,
I'm gonna try to get this man taking.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Care of last year, so I ain't gotta do it
this fifth year.
Speaker 8 (44:59):
Wh that price, Like what DJ Kellen said, yesterday's price
ain't today's price. And it keeps going up. So if
he comes back in here do everything that he's capable
of doing, that price tag just got that much higher.
You haven't seen t J. White got paid like Miles
Garretton got paid. So like when you could have made
him the highest player player non QB player by one dollar,
(45:19):
just more than that, I guarantee you he would have
took it, and that it wouldn't have been.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
And that was fat Joe, And so that said, yesterday's fat,
But here's the kalient. Well no, no, no, it's a here's
it's fat job said, here's the right. DJ Kalen made
it famous. What are you thinking?
Speaker 7 (45:35):
But all right, and Jimmy, it was Jimmy Johnson that
said that about the quarterback too.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
So I mean, look, here's the deal. I got a
great quote. It's it's okay, it's okay in this why.
Speaker 7 (45:48):
Is why, this is why, this is why my point
about get it done, Get it done. Get him in
the building, whether it's a Pisson match or whatever it is,
the brinks truck up and don't allow for the season
to start with your defensive leader, not in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
And he's doing everything right. He's trying to he's trying.
He's not in trouble.
Speaker 8 (46:12):
He's trying everything right. Heil he built the brand. That's
on the it's on part with the America's not in trouble.
It's the players.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Man.
Speaker 8 (46:20):
Hey, bro, you're gonna stop trying to do that. Like
just like, get your pinky up, baby, we take.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
That Take that shot. Take that shot. You take that shot.
You've been acting different, bro, that's all. That's all. That's
all you I've been a.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
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Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, but how you're looking right, you're not sharing.
Speaker 5 (46:50):
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Speaker 7 (46:52):
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Speaker 1 (46:56):
Wow, I got you. Wow you got man?
Speaker 5 (47:02):
Know what about well my man ice bag?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Where where was at the next side?
Speaker 5 (47:07):
About that?
Speaker 14 (47:08):
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I brought you back?
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When and then when the bag pays off, when it
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and changed the whole dynamic of their program.
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Techrought.
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Right now, brother, with stuff. I keep that going.
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The other coaches are like, I should have break then
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Exactly.
Speaker 8 (02:35):
It hurt me to say, you might want to watch
out for tech because the guy that took over like
that whole investment group to pay that girl of a
million dollars, you think they're about to do in them.
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Other sports, the football team.
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They invest in the football team. So this is players
stress a.
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Whole lot to get to the Dallas Cowboys here, all right.
So I want to throw something. I want to throw
something over NBC. So you know, yeah, no, no, no, no,
well no it's it's it's Pro Football.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
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Speaker 1 (03:20):
NBC. Lo.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
So Chris Sims comes out with his quarterback rank.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Wow, Chris Sim's forming trip lately, even trip lately, even
tripping lately lately.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
By lately he tripped all the time. He tripped all
the time. He got a little bit of tripp trip out.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
So he's talking about he's got his rankings out there.
You know, he got his rankings, his quarterback rankings, and
we got him down in tears and breakdowns ahead of
the season. And so I wanted to see where Dak
Prescott was, you know, where do you have him?
Speaker 8 (03:53):
Man?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
What's he thinking?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
And so when it comes to Dak, he's got he's
got is after the needs more info. He wouldn't need
more info, guys, which you said was Michael Pennix and
Drake May.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Then he gets to is this it question mark number one?
On the is this it?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
And he says a tier of He says, a tier
of trio of quarterbacks who are once considered rising stars.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Now they are fighting for their NFL futures. And he
has Dak no.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, away
right now, it'll finish. Come on, yeah, say Worth, pff bag.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't be that extreme.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
So let me read the three guys and what he
has to say. The first is Dak Prescott. Yeah, he said,
there are a few quarterbacks more divisive than Prescott. Sims
is underwhelmed about the thirty one year old, declaring that
his release is slow and his anticipation is not great.
Then he goes into Tua Tugue of Ilo of Miami
and he says Tua has played in just one postseason
(04:54):
game in his career, a twenty six to seven loss
to the Chiefs in twenty twenty four. Simms likes a
lot about to his game, but he's very concerned about
the quarterbacks ability to play big game football. And then
the final one in his tier is Trevor Lawrence the
Jacksonville Jaguars. Says Lawrence is one of the most difficult
players to rank because there's an unbelievable talent in him,
but there's way too many misthrows. New head coach Liam
(05:17):
Cohen has a ridd in Jacksonville, will attempt to fix
his franchise quarterback.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
However, at the end of the.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Day, it's going to be on Lawrence And so that's
the tier he put him in.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
What are the other tiers? And who else is on
this list before before I.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
So it's a lot like he's got ready to launch,
Like he's got a whole thing like ready to launch.
He's got like bo Nix and Caleb Williams right there.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Then he's got the.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
More info guys, and he's got the don't forget about me,
that's Kirk Cousins. He's in category and he's got a
category call Escape from New York.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Which I'm done enough with the clickbait, enough with the clickbase.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
But just back to Dak, you know, he back to
he He says he's fighting for his NFL future and
that he's underwhelmed by Die and then he says Dax
releases slow and his anticipation, you want me to.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Look at me in this camera.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
I hate I hate when people say stuff like this
just to do clickbait, to sit here and say, this
man is fighting for his NFL future.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Do you know what type of contract he has?
Speaker 8 (06:24):
Do you know what type of teams will pay for
Dak Prescott right now? That one of those teams being Miami,
the guy that you mentioned on there too. So for
you to sit here and say that, oh, he's fighting
for his NFL future like that is absurd, Like just
because you're tired or you're getting used to seeing something
like that, you don't let talent like that go that
is generational, Like he's not I'm sorry, I'm not gonna
(06:46):
say he's not generational talent, but he is a proven
starter in this league. You don't just give that up
for tools and fuels and sit here and say that, oh,
because he's thirty one, Oh his time releases and is
slow and stuff like that, like stop it, bruh, Like, yes,
he hasn't formed up to the ceiling that people are
saying going to the super Bowl and this and that,
but he's been he's tooking his team to the playoffs,
(07:06):
he's showing that he's had the number one offense multiple
times throughout his career and then you're gonna sit here
and say that a healthy death Dak Prescott. I'm sorry
that to say his career is over. I hate when
you put that narrative on people because then once that
narrative gets there, it starts a snowball.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Like, don't do that talk the facts, don't just do clickbait.
N I'm with you on this.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
And you know, like I said before, you sims be
tripping sometimes, and he was tripping on this one.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
You know, I get on.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Dak a lot when you talk about playoffs and all
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I understand that, but you got to be able to
get to the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
And with Dak Prescott, we're just what a year or
two remove for him being second in the MVP voting.
You know, it's like, what are we saying here? This
is also a man that rattled off with a three
straight twelve and twelve win seasons. I mean, this is
a guy that you know, his playoffs, he has the
same amount of wins as maybe what Lamar Jackson to
(08:00):
the playoffs, maybe one win behind him. And we're talking
about this man being you know, his NFL future being
at stake. I don't agree with that at all, does
he need to you know, be more healthy and win
more in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Of course he does.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
But there's a lot of quarterbacks out there that wish
they had the same resume as a Dak Prescott. So
to me, this is you know, Sims tripping once again.
When you put that Cowboys name up there, people are
going to click in and want to look at it.
But overall, you know, Dak is far from being done
in this league. And to me, you know, a lot
of NFL franchises will want to have four as their
signal caller back there.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Ye.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Well, Chris Sims, son of Super Bowl champion Phil Sims,
you know he probably has. He has made statements throughout
his career as an analyst that I have not agreed with.
I mean when I say, when I think of ass
hat he's in a conversation, some of the things that
he says, and it's like, you know, I think, and
(08:55):
I'm not even playing Devil's advocate here, because you know
that I have officially defended Dak for years and years
and years, and I think when it what people are
starting to put together is the culmination of his work
and what he's done.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
They're saying all right, ten years in this thing.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
This is as far as you've gone have is this
It is this your ceiling. And we've always talked about
force multipliers, guys to come in and make other people better.
I don't think that, no, they've ever looked at Dak
in that in that realm to say, Okay, he is
a quarterback like Jalen Hurt, like like Hurts, that needs
to have those pieces around him.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But when you think about the jump that.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Jalen Hurts has made, it has been because he has
had the talent around him him to propel him to
the Super Bowl m v P Saquon Barkley in other
in other words, yeahj aj Brown. But what I'm saying
is you start to see when an organization gives a
(09:53):
player that has those limited tools. As far as nobody's
ever said, oh my god, DA's you've never come away
from a game saying, O, man, great crows, great moments,
but the game where you like it is all on display.
I think Dak is what he is, and I think
as an organization you have to understand even with the
injuries that he suffered, mechanics and all that that Chris
(10:15):
Sims was talking about if you saw twenty five minutes,
pretty good man. He talks about his mechanics and all
of that. I think right now this this front office
needs to put the pieces. George Pickens is in. They
re signed ceedee lamb. You have your your tight end
and mcferg maybe you bring in, you bring in a
offensive line. Your offensive line is is much better. I
(10:37):
think your running back group is going to be much
better than it was last year. So therefore, I think
you're gonna see the better version of Dak Prescott because
now you're giving him the weapons to work with.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And he's a better QB than Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Just so let's go off the top peer QB.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
But he is a better peer QB and throw it up.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
You know Bill Parcells want said for the rest of
your life, they can never say.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
You couldn't get it done.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
He got it done.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I got a Super Bowl trophy.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
It's on no.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Matter what, take that and I cannot take that from.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I can't be mad at that. But you are a
fat guy, are you not?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
At the end of the day, Rick Flair said, you
want to be the man, you gotta beat the man.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
He is the man. But if you had if you
had a choice of starting your organization about starting.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Walk in the building with a ring, and certainly I
respect them, so he considered it. He and Patrick Mahomes
can sit up in the same club drinking that champagne.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
No, no, Patrick, in a different club. It's the same
super Bowl club.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
The super Bowl Club with the ring ringing the Champions
Club in the Champions Club.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
So thank you, thank.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
You, But pat, Patty, and that he up there you
knocking on Tom doing saying.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Hey, you know he can go to the VP of
the Hall of Fame club, but the Champions Club, Jalen
Hurst is in there.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I'm sorry, man, That's what happened. When you talk about
your little doggy.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Friends, we won't talk about Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Fighting. He fighting thetal the rebuttal to that is.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
So I go back to this point about what mister
sim said, slow release.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yep, how do we feel about that?
Speaker 7 (12:41):
You know what I think after the injury, that is
something that I worry about because obviously, with age you
got to slow down, right and I think with an
hamstring injury on a quarterback that was already dealing with
an ankle issue, he's gonna move slower. But even in
that when he said about his slow release and criticizing
(13:01):
him about that, he also praised Dak.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
For his patients. So you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
You can say, hey, I love it, I love his
patience and his ability to read release, but he has
those low release.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, but I love his patients.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
But he also got on Dak about choosing like if
he has a Humbo route, choosing the underneath routes the
short stuff and not allowing the other stuff to come open, right,
And so it's a it's a big contradiction in what
he's making of it. But I think as when I
look at Dak over when I look forward to seeing
Dak this season, I want to see how he moves
because man, after having surgery on your hamstring, you know
(13:37):
that is that's going to be a big deal for him,
especially his mechanics and his release.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Also, what a healthy old line like what we see
what Dak has guys in front of him, MAC can
protect him.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
He can put up great numbers.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
I mean we've seen it, like was it two years
before when he was second MVP the Matthew thirty seven
touchdown passes.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
All right, limited interceptions.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
He went from fifteen interceptions the year before to you know,
I was killing him, brought him way back. And in
this past year, how many times did we see lookout blocks?
Hey man, look out, he's about to get you, Like
you know, he can't sit there and let the routes
develop and it being able to hit those deep shots.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But he got guys breathing on his neck.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
I think he'll have a better offensive line to protect
them a little bit more and you'll be able to
see that Dak Prescott that we've seen from years.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Two rookies on the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Last year with one rookie basically failing the test to
tackle and Tyler Guyton came out and owned it. He
owned it last week and said, you know, yeah, I
wasn't where I needed to be so so so yes,
you're bringing up a valid fair point to say, hey,
look what could he do if given the weapons and protection.
(14:43):
I go back and I look at Jared Goff of Detroit.
Sean McVay let him go despite him going to a
super Bowl with and he's like, man, I can't get
it done with this guy. So he goes to Detroit
and a lot of people are like, hell, you know, okay,
he's here, but Brad Holmes, the GM's on excellent.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Joh They have a very good offensive line.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
The big thing was like, hey, if you want to
get to golf, go at the middle on him. They've
protected him there. They've done a very good job the
weapons that he has from an offensive standpoint, the wide receiver,
the tight end. Use a first round pick to upgrade
the tight end. You got first round picks running back.
They've done what they did for Peyton Manning in Indianapolis.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I tell people all the time, look at.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
How many first round picks Bill Pollian put around Peyton.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Man There was a bunch of them.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Edgern James Dallas Clark, Anthony Gonzalez, Anthony Wayne Reggie, Wayne Marvin.
It was just tons and tons. Ken do I mean
he just kept bringing first round and high draft picks
to put around Peyton man as they should have. By
the way, you know, on the offensive line as well.
How many times are you doing that for Dak Prescott?
(15:51):
Are you giving Dak Prescott what they did in Detroit
or even in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I think if you asked that.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Question, you could say the cow Boys have not to
the extreme that we saw in Philly.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Indy or Detroit for their quarterback.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
No, they they definitely haven't done to that extreme of
that magnitude. I think that's been the knock on them
for years.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Just growing up in Dallas, like you always said, hey,
can we bring in somebody?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And then you bring in one guy.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
But this is the first time I was saying this offseason,
we see them making that attempt to do that. You
have your first round pick in Ceed Lamb. You have
a first round pick in George Picking bringing him in there.
You have another first round pick that you bring in
with the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You bring in.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
A guy that go his offense is predicated off of
the run, and then his quarterback has had that success.
You're starting to see the foundation of them trying to
build around that and go to his strengths. He's never,
like you said, he's never been the guy that had
the big arm and stuff like that. But he's been
the guy that can have thirty seven touchdowns, that can
lead have the number one offense in the league with
(16:54):
less weapons around him. So now that you're starting to
do that and build that foundation, I say, give them time,
but I think this is going to be the time.
So for him to make that getting back to Chris Silm,
for him to make that comment, it's like, Brah, if anything,
you should have had him on. This is the make
or break if that's the case, because now with them
actually bringing in the weapons and doing all that stuff,
then you can maybe start trying to put a narrative
(17:14):
on him. But to say that he's already done that
was completely far less.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I said the last yeah, real quick.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
And when you make the reference about golf, and I
think that's really the department that I want to put
out the where I want to keep dak. When you
look at Detroit those years where they were just horrible
and stacking those first round picks. So it's different, man,
when you're bringing in a guy that's top five picking
in the draft versus the guy that you're getting at
nineteen or twenty as far as the pick you're getting,
(17:43):
and those twelve and five seasons led way to them
getting those later round picks in the first round, and
again it's no excuse. You have to be more strategic
about the guys that you get. But man, Detroit has
been able to go out there and get the pick
of the litter when it comes down to those first
round picks.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
He Knewson made a living out a twenty picks in
the twenty somethings for years, and one of them being
Lamar Jackson in the thirties. So Cowboys, having no issue
from their first round picks have done a very good
job there. I just go back and look in terms
of how intentional have you been about it with Dak
Prescott versus the other clubs who have all Right, let's
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Ferry's got him in ten wins. He has got him
in the seventh seeded playoffs. Now, Trey, you just walking
right on and and.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
I didn't walk into the statement. You look, man, I
told you. I said he's impossible, He's impressionable. I know
I'm not. I'm hey, hey, Christ, roll back the clip,
roll back to roll back the clip of what I said.
I said, seven in the possible. But give me your
training camp, I said, I can see it happening.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
They have the pieces show nothing hold on.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Alone, y'all do to see yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I don't come on, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
You mean I started to really do this.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
I told you what I said based off of last
year at seven in the Possible, but with the tools
that they're adding around him and.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Stuff like that and poticilarly. Let me see, I said,
let me see camp to eight right now. First, I'm sticking.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Say seven in the Possible. You're taking myself?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That was me? First? What hold on? Did I not
give the Spades analogy on here the Golden Book?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I said, possibly, like Danny Craig, go pull it up.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Chris Chris put on it.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Chris always covered.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
I got myself, got about my phone, about Twitter, go
to Twitter.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Put that episode. I was, I love.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
You really don't know how long we've been doing this show.
That's I don't know. Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
So the bottom line, you sitting around this man got
you thinking, you.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Know about it?
Speaker 5 (25:30):
You're thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I thought, I think about a lot of things. Somebody's
gonna renig hm hmm. Let wont be.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
You're the only ones you You're the only one that's
in the books. Don't put me in the book.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And after that, I'm in the book. I'm in the book.
It can't be into get me to training.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Okay, all right, let's let's get back in the matter
at hand. Here, Treyvon Diggs could possibly for for a
half million dollars a lot of bredoms by the off
season workout routine he's deciding to pursue. He's spending a
lot of time in Miami. He's not here at the contracts.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
They take.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
You get your half million dollars, You do your little
They want to see you. They want to see a
face when they got you all that money. We need
to see a face walking around the building. Shot your
fight you want to say, fight, Church explained to the viewers.
(26:35):
How long do you have to be up here during
these ot as?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Oh whatever, Well it depends what five days.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
A week here'd be working out.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
How many days it depends on your car. So for me,
I had a stipulation. I had to be at eighty
percent or whatever it was when you come to tha s. Yeah,
and to me, I mean, I wasn't going anywhere away.
I wouldn't forfit numb money even if it was a thousand.
We know, we know, but.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
You just got to be Tuesday was a Thursday Tuesday
was Thursday.
Speaker 10 (27:06):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Not all week, not all week, notf the weekend, not Monday.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Tuesday was it Thursday.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
And we're pretty close to the airport boom two hours
of the go to Tuesday was a Thursday.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You just got to be and then you get the
rest of your time to do what you gotta do.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
So Miami's open on Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Especially on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
Correct, correct, it is it is, It is open, And if.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
You wanted to train with somebody, and you somebody in Miami,
you definitely go.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Considering he's a multiple that type of bread.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Definitely that training staff will probably available on Friday Saturday.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So great, I just yeah, I don't I understand it.
Let me let me play Devil's Advocate for the voiceless.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Oh, I just yeah, you sews yeah, black cart. But
with that being said, yes, he can't get out of here,
he can do all those things.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
But but.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
You got to ask yourself, why are you doing that?
Like this ain't just some chump change one? Is it pride?
And is it ego? And do you feel untouchable and
realizing that this is untangible, are you going down there
for training purposes. We see that your brothers having fun
and doing certain things at a certain level, like all
that stuff plays a factor into it. Like if my
circle is saying, Hey, we about to go out of
(28:22):
the country and go party and do this and that,
guess what, I'm gonna be more inclined to do that.
If I if my circle says, hey, you know what,
I'm gonna stay over here at the facility and you
at the facility, I'm not about to just have my
authourage and be like, all right, I'm gonna go do
this Like I'm gonna be more inclined to go do that.
So if you want to, you ask yourself. A lot
of these things can play a part into it. But ultimately,
(28:45):
if he's a smart man, I hope that he's pulling
the Ray Lewis. I hope that he's like, hey, man,
I'm doing this because I need to go be by
myself and get into that dungeon and just lock back
into where I can go do something.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It's a possibility we don't know what he's doing.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
But but that you got Pete Ba. But with that
being said, once you get to a certain level, we
all know that there's those players that make enough money
to where they have their own regimens. Aaron Rodgers would
go out the country and go do whatever he did. Well,
that's such a bad comp's that's not a bad thing
for his overall body of working.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
I'm just talking about at this stage in his career,
which is, oh, yeah, you're good, you finished with now
you're good. Like I'm just all I'm saying is like me, personally,
I don't think he should be down there. I think
perception is everything, especially when you don't there's so many
questions about the defense.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Who's going to be the leader?
Speaker 8 (29:39):
Is Michael Parsons the face of it, This can be
your chance to cement yourself as the leader of the
Dallas Cowboys defense. Being a former leader in interception, There's
so many things that you could be doing in.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
The right direction now.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Also, like I said, I just played Devil's advocate because
I'm saying he could be doing this for whatever reason.
It could be personal reasons. We don't know because he
has not talked to us. But give him the dignity
of doing that. He is a proven player and a
proven started in this league. And if the Cowboys, if
you don't hear Stephen Jones or Jerry Jones out here,
because we know Jerry says what's on his mind. If
you don't hear Jerry saying he needs to get down
(30:13):
here and this is a big distraction, then it might
not be as big a distraction as we're making it
to be.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But it's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
What's understood don't need to be stated in situations like this.
And you've already signed your deal and you already know
you talked about the eighty percent of whatever it is.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
You have to be here for OTAs. I understand that
athletes are superstitious and you know, for whatever reasons, whoever, whatever,
all a liniment you've been you had on you, I
get it right, but you have to show up. This
is This is Brian Schottenheimer's first ota IS as a
head coach, and he is building Trayvon Diggs. Was it
(30:51):
twenty twenty one where he set the record eleven interceptions?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
That was at the year? I want to say that
was it, But he and Deron Bland, these are two.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
These are two guys that we haven't been able to
see play at the same time, and injuries have derailed
that for both of these guys. And finally we're at
a place, even coming off of the injury that he
had last season, where both of these guys could tip
may be healthy for the beginning of the season. That
would be huge for the Dallas Cowboys defensive would be
huge for the psyche of this team and an organization
(31:22):
and fan base. And I think he's missing an opportunity.
I don't understand for the half a million, Like you know,
I'm being able to make it up on the back
end or somewhere else. That's a half a million today,
not tomorrow. And that is what I don't think is
smart for him in a from a business aspect. But
I want when I see these these videos of these
(31:44):
clips of him rehabbing, I'm like, Okay, that's cool, But
where you need to be is here with this Dallas
Cowboys rehab with these doctors here and working with the
team and understanding and getting the vibe for the just
overall aura that they're building here in this environment.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And he's missing out on that.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
So, according to Calvin Waking, he quotes Dixon's contract, sayce
he loses a half million dollars of his nine million
dollars space salary if he doesn't complete at least eighty
four percent of the workouts. And he also says, with
these organized team activities which are voluntary right now, the
team is ninety five percent of the team is here
working out right now. And he goes on to say
(32:23):
it's not a good look. That's a Calvin Waker will say, hey,
it's not a good look. And he also talks about
Parsons not being here. But I think we all know
and understand Michael Parsons is a stratespy or that that digs,
and he's not coming off of injuries.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
And that's the and that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
He is not coming off of injury, injuries, and that's
why me personally do I think he should be here
coming off of injury. On top of that, Micah not
being here, like I said, this is the chance to
solidify yourself, like if you plan on playing however much
longer and going to get that bag, like this is
the opportunity where like, hey, Michael's not here. We know
why he's not going to be here, but now we're
(32:56):
looking for our next big name and that's star leader.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And so that's.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Where I feel like he's doing himself a disservice. But
not even even if you didn't come every single day,
like you said, Let's get this straight, it is voluntary
at least if you showed up two out of the
three days. Because we all know those vets that when
you came into the locker room and it's like, oh,
I got to leave out at the end of the
week to go take care of this and that, like
you need to be here in some form and capacity.
(33:21):
But I also know that certain guys when they wasn't here,
you looked at them and said.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Hey, like, oh, I know why he's not here.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
And so my question is, has he proven to people
that he's a guy that don't need to be here
right now?
Speaker 6 (33:35):
And you got a new defensive coordinator, you know that
you got to figure out the defensive coordinator. And not
only that, you put more pressure on yourself. I mean,
cause if you come in in the beginning of the season,
you don't have football field, you don't ball out.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
We all know how it works. We all know how
it worked outside.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
But people in the building, we know they gonna be like, oh,
I told you he ain't a worker. You're gonna get
that narrative started. So it's a lot of pressure you
putting on yourself.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Go ahead, man, quote the great Darren Hambrick and Chris Being.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
You were there when he said this, what do voluntary mean?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
We know what it means, mean what it means, and so.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Like a Parsons voluntary, it's gonna be different.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Diggs is voluntary, then Guiden's voluntary.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Dak Prescott wife had a baby last week.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Next day he's still here.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
And that's and that's what's gonna make it bad for
you to say, like, oh, this man just had a
baby and he showed up the very next day here
and accountable. It's like people look at you or so,
Like I said, perceptions everything, and it's like the great
Bill Parcell, like I just had to play double's advocate
and say I would hope that it's a great reason
he's doing it, like Ray Lewis, because people understood if
(34:51):
Ray wasn't in the building, everyone in the building, it's
because of that. But I'm going to sit here and
say that for you to be gone, you're messing up
your duckies. Bill Parcell came in there and said, hey,
one day I had a backup quarterback. He was sleeping
my meeting He said, I walked over there, woke him
up and fired him. When the media asked him where
was he at and it was time to talk to him,
he said he was sleeping my meeting. He didn't want
(35:12):
to be here and that was a disrespect to me.
A reporter asked him and said, what would you done
at Dalls Philipson? He said that Philip sim you know
what I did. I'd have walked over there just like
I did the other cat, and I had have tapped
him on the shoulder just like I did him, and
I said, hey, you need a pillow.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
When Ray Lewis was this Ray Posts Super Bowl MVP
Ray and established you.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Earned your right, that's why.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
But I did I not just say a few minutes ago,
And you got to ask yourself, like.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
To other people, has he earned that right? But to
himself obviously.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
He feels like what s what ses me is the
perception because the perception is not always reality, and you
can't overcome that. You know, as as football players, you
got your helmet on, nobody's hearing what you're saying, so
you could be perceived. However, the media and everybody else
is saying it. You're talking about Hey, first game of
(36:05):
the season out there versus the Philadelphia A. J. Brown
burns you on an eighty yard bomb? What is everybody
going to talk about? And it's gonna beat it in
the building?
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Seen like cats didn't come around and Henna be ready
for But that's a that's.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Another question and you cannot answer that because he's not
in the building. You don't know that, and that's those
are questions that you need to have answered because Hey, I.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Don't know about yild but in two more months it
gets funky.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Got to get a break break in here when we
come back, it's still not done. The Michael Parsons steal.
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Speaker 4 (40:06):
You guys, got anybody in the league. Now, you got
anybody in the league, Okay, do a lot of them. Quiet,
we got a lot of your quarterback now the league?
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Bro?
Speaker 8 (40:17):
You you focused on one person, man, like how many
cute dogs y'all.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Got out here?
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Focused on the dude that it ain't illegally, I just
asked you about who's in there now, Man, we ain't
got to do We ain't got to do a man
while y'all doing the you know, okay, the break off
we talked about that.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I do not like that.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Boy here likes barking.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Words. I could have way, I could have the ball.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Here things.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
We don't do that.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
About.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I mean.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Today hopefully the Q still got a fraternity. Let's do it, man,
Come on, Michael Parsons needs to get paid, need to
get paid.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Jones got sensitive this week a little bit, MANA all
the questions, you know, the questions are coming. Yeah, And
that's the part that he was frustrated about taking the
question what else is there going to be asked right now?
Because you're going down the same road again. A key
player who must be signed, A key player who the
(41:45):
defensive coordinators would love to have right here in the
OTA so they can get to know him, he gets
to know them. We saw last year Mike Zimmer speaking
about some of the challenges that he had in bringing
in his new defense and trying to make the pieces fit.
There was not one hundred percent buy in last year
from guys. So why not make sure your best defensive player,
your weapon, is happy, signed and plugged in with the
(42:07):
new coaches. That's the part for me that I just say, like, man, guys,
get this done. Hasn't gotten done yet?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
What you think, man, Man, you gotta get that done. Man. Whoever,
it's time, what it's time to make you playing happy.
Speaker 8 (42:20):
It's time to roll out the red the red coats,
like the red carpet, whatever you want to call it,
whatever analogy. You got to make them happy, Like why
why not? Especially when they're proven, like he's proven that
he's a premier pass rusher, your defensive coordinator on them,
They're like, you're missing your jail right now, Like why
not bring Batman in here right now? And you have
the legion of you're trying to form the super Friends
(42:42):
right now. You can't even do that because Batman's not
here to take off.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
So I think the frustration, the frustrating thing is that
is the theatrics of the contracts. Each and every season,
you have guys that need to get signed. You know this,
prior to I'm gonna say, Tyler Smith needs to get
taken care of.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Deron Bland is gonna be you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
So all of these guys that are going to be
reaching the platform, how are those gonna be taken over?
And with Micah's deal to me, and seemingly it seems
easy because you're gonna make him one of the highest
non quarterbacks in the league. So get to the numbers
and this whole back and forth about who's his agent,
and you know, like, look, you know exactly who his
(43:23):
agent is. The deal should already be done by now.
And if we extend this all the way through camp
and have to go through this with michaeh especially like
again with Brin Schoenhamer's first year as a head coach,
that would be disappointing to me for it to be
right before the.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Philadelphia Eagles game.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Michael Parsons is now back in the locker room because
you know that this can get messy, and they can
ill afford for this to get messy, especially with this
new coaching staff.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I agree with y'all. He needs to be paid.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
I agree to one hundred percent. The one thing I'm
saying for the owners is they I don't believe they
want this to be like the NBA. Like the NBA
is a player driven they strong arm, Hey, I want
to get traded.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Hey, I want to go here, I want to go there.
I'm strong arm in everybody. They don't.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
I don't believe the owners want the NFL to be
like that. So how many years Michael Parsons got left?
He has what this year? And if you're an option,
if you know well they will be next year is
the fifth next year? If you're so, I mean, I
get from the owner's perspective, they don't want to be
strong armed like this, this is our league. We will
let you understand when when we want you all to
get paid. But I agree with y'all one hundred percent.
You don't want this to snowball until it's it's a
(44:26):
situation where you got pay the man forty five mil
or something crazy like that.
Speaker 8 (44:29):
And that's the biggest thing is about Like it's like
my dad used to always say, I'm not about to
have a pisson match, Like at the end of the day,
play the game within the game, play chess and not checkers.
And so from the owner's perspective, yes, you don't want
it to be a player driven league. But also from
an owner's perspective, if I'm an owner, I'm gonna say, hey,
and hey, they get paid far more than me.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
It's the reason why they're in the cease that they're in.
Speaker 8 (44:51):
But if I'm playing Madden at home on my franchise,
I'm gonna try to get this man taking.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Care of last year, so I ain't gotta do it
this fifth year.
Speaker 8 (44:59):
Wh that price, Like what DJ Kellen said, yesterday's price
ain't today's price. And it keeps going up. So if
he comes back in here do everything that he's capable
of doing, that price tag just got that much higher.
You haven't seen t J. White got paid like Miles
Garretton got paid. So like when you could have made
him the highest player player non QB player by one dollar,
(45:19):
just more than that, I guarantee you he would have
took it, and that it wouldn't have been.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
And that was fat Joe, And so that said, yesterday's fat,
But here's the kalient. Well no, no, no, it's a here's
it's fat job said, here's the right. DJ Kalen made
it famous. What are you thinking?
Speaker 7 (45:35):
But all right, and Jimmy, it was Jimmy Johnson that
said that about the quarterback too.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
So I mean, look, here's the deal. I got a
great quote. It's it's okay, it's okay in this why.
Speaker 7 (45:48):
Is why, this is why, this is why my point
about get it done, Get it done. Get him in
the building, whether it's a Pisson match or whatever it is,
the brinks truck up and don't allow for the season
to start with your defensive leader, not in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
And he's doing everything right. He's trying to he's trying.
He's not in trouble.
Speaker 8 (46:12):
He's trying everything right. Heil he built the brand. That's
on the it's on part with the America's not in trouble.
It's the players.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Man.
Speaker 8 (46:20):
Hey, bro, you're gonna stop trying to do that. Like
just like, get your pinky up, baby, we take.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
That Take that shot. Take that shot. You take that shot.
You've been acting different, bro, that's all. That's all. That's
all you I've been a.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Different by the way, shout out yeah Harrison for the
shade butter.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, but how you're looking right, you're not sharing.
Speaker 5 (46:50):
I'm gonna do the new thing. No, don't worry about me.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
It's a special special requests.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Wow, I got you. Wow you got man?
Speaker 5 (47:02):
Know what about well my man ice bag?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Where where was at the next side?
Speaker 5 (47:07):
About that?
Speaker 14 (47:08):
You know?
Speaker 1 (47:09):
I brought you back?
Speaker 6 (47:11):
Christ christer, crack gaming, crack you nik?
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Why but I know I'm the new guy. But can
I put my little ash?
Speaker 10 (47:20):
Thank you?
Speaker 7 (47:22):
All that money that Wow, you're probably all that money
you got ain't but always you got.
Speaker 8 (47:29):
I'm just saying I like I wish I had some parents,
don't get don't give grooming charter.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
That sound Chris goodbye.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
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