November 10, 2025 • 46 mins
Newy Scruggs, Barry Church, Damontre Moore and Anthony Dorsett discuss latest Dallas Cowboys news and notes on The Player's Lounge.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge,
broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
At the Star.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Now your hosts, Barry Church, Anthony Dorset, Demntrey More and
Newi Scrugs.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
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Newie is out on assignment, so your boy j Holly
aka Sualtan Pepper Poppy is sitting in the pravers seat. Listen,
Popy Baby, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We got Barry Church and Anthony door set and fellas.
Some tragic news came down a week ago for the
Dallas Cowboys with the untimely passing of defensive end twenty
four year olds. Then Marshawn Neeland and we don't have
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to get into the details of it all, but I
just wanted to open up and give you guys space
and room because mental health is something that a lot
of us deal with. I know personally. I talked about
it on the last show, so I won't eat up
the airtime with that again on this show. But mental
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health is something that a lot of athletes, a lot
of people in general deal with and i'd set me personally,
I deal with those things as well, because there are
so many pressures that a lot of people don't realize
that athletes have to go to. Not only just being
able to perform Sunday in and Sunday out, you know,
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but there are things that you know, a guy coming
to take your spot, the coach has been on you
contract year, dealing with injuries, battling it, and that's not
even dealing with the home stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, exactly, You're just dealing with the stuff in the building.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You dealing with stuff in the building. You know, the
media critique and the team's not playing well, and you
know you have expectations for yourself and you're not living
up to them, and so you're a critique in yourself.
And again that's all in the building stressors, nothing to
do what's going on, you know at home and you
know Marshawn, you know whose mom passed eighteen months ago.
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So you know, sometimes people don't get over those type
of things. If you're lose, if you lose a parent
or dealing with whatever. There's a multitude things that we
can talk about in this but I wanted to give
the open space for guys to talk about, you know,
this type of situation and if you deal with you know,
mental health, what are some of the things that you
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do to kind of help you win the day to
day battle. So I'll open up the floor to you,
you know, oh for sure.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Well, you know, when it comes to you know, mental
health and all that stuff, I'm serious on that as well,
because you know, from a young age going off through football, you're.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Kind of taught to suppress that stuff.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
You know, don't complain or you know, don't cry on
the football field, and you know, don't let emotions. You know,
as men, you kind of are to growing up to
suppress that and it all comes to a point where
you know, it boils over. I mean we've seen it
happen time and time again. But when it comes to
you know, to lots of h Marshawn, it's it's extremely
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tough man and and you know, it kind of threw
me back to when I had lots of teammate of
my own, Jerry Brown, you know, during that on that
whole whole ordeal.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And it's super sad because you know these guys are young.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I mean at twenty four, you know what I'm saying
what you do, what can you imagine you know the
rest of that life to be. And it's just so young, man,
so young, and so tragic. So it's extremely sad. And
that's why I always say, man, check on your people.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
You know, it's just not even you don't even have
to be like a full hour long conversation, just a
text message just to hey, how you doing?
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Man?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You know what's going on with you?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You know, hollow things going because you never know, you know,
you might text the right person that day that needs
somebody to talk to, and you need somebody to vent
out to. And so I always encourage people to just
reach out and if you can yourself a group.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
They don't even have to be a group.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Maybe it's just spousal, your loved one, just someone that
you can regularly talk to, you know, maybe once a week.
There's nothing wrong with therapy. I'm just venting on It
could be you know, how great life is going, or it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Could be the struggles that's going on.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
But just venting and getting you know, those emotions off
of your body, man, is definitely a.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Huge for me.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Yeah, for me, mental health is it's the forefront of everything.
I realize it now being fortunate enough to you know what,
this is a special occasion. We actually got four players
here now at the show and shout out to Newly.
He's seen this time and time again. Working in this
industry for over two plus decades. Within itself, you get
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to meet different people, You get to meet different personality.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
We always make that ongoing joke when we're young, Hey,
you gotta be a little different to play football.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
You gotta be a man's man, like there's something that's
not wired right with you to make it to this level,
to go want to hit a man at full speed,
high collision and all this. And it's like my dad,
I'm a walking cook, Liz. My dad always said there's
some truth behind every joke. You sit there and say
that somebody's not wired right, Well, you don't know that.
For me, I've been that guy. I'm the guy that
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is always smiling in the room. I have ADHD, I've
suffer from PTSD. I go to counseling at least twice
a week and not shout out to the NFL trust.
You know, they offer resources to where we can go
to counseling. And for me, it wasn't until my friend
de Marus Thomas, he passed away, going and seeing him
growing up, watching guys like marrying the Barbarian going through
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like him to be this iconic guy, and we lost
him a few years ago. There's been a list of
multiple tude of guys that towards the end of my
playing career, I was like, I know that I've been
the emotional guy. I know I'm the guy that's always
ready to turn on and turn on that light switch.
But my biggest fear is when I got off that field.
Whenever this comes to I didn't realize how therapeutic football
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was for me and my connections that I started to
reach out and we were just talking about it before
we got on air. AD I went and did the
brain and body assessment this past weekend and to really
just truly go out there and see your body and
how it's working and what's going on. I really challenged
people too. And when I say challenge people, I'm looking
at you all as players, because we all got our
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own niche. You talk all the time about your dad
and his friends, and you experiencing them and not only them.
You're at the age now to where a lot of
your peers are either still here or not here. I'm
at the age I think I'm the youngest one at
this table going through that big dog he's salt pepper
popular age out there. But you up there, like we
all got four different generations of football that is going
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on right here. And when I do motivational speaking, I
go and talk to people like we've always been told
man up, don't do this and do that. Well, truly,
manning up is saying that, Hey, we all go through
a motion like I'm that guy and Barry, I tell
you I love Barry and ad no.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Two.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
But how many times do I call y'all? And I'm
trying to get a point across, But it's like, I
don't just call once, like I know we say pick
up a phone, call and text somebody and do this
and that. It's not only us at this table, but
I'm talking to America looking at y'all. Call that person,
and when you call them, don't just call them once.
Don't just call them twice. If it's really on your spirit,
call them three times. Because I tell people all the
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time when I call, I'm gonna call you at least
two times. And then if you don't answer me, and
if it's important enough, I'm gonna call you that evening
or that next day, and then you're gonna have three
of them, just like it says in the Bible, things
coming three. I want you to know that it was
that important, because just as it was important and you
reach out to these people, we always have that stigma
as men, the biggest line and the biggest misconception that
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we always say, what do you say? How you doing, brother,
I'm straight, I'm good, I'm making it and this and that,
and they be like, okay, I got to the point
cause people don't realize when you're on Instagram and you're posting.
Some people post to say hey, I need motivation, But
a lot of the time, as players, we're posting for ourselves.
We're posting them. We say, hey, it was only one person.
Because we feel alone, we feel isolated. We got to
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remind ourselves that we're still that guy. We're posting the
old highlights and stuff like that, and fans are out
there like, hey man, you were great, you were doing
this and that, and that little reassurance kind of brings
us back to reality. And I'll call my boys and
be like, hey, bro, you sure you good, because I
see the way that you're posting, and even if you're not,
this is what I went through, brother, and so I
just want to make sure you're good. And every time
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I get done with one of them conversations, I always
get the man, I really appreciate it because I really
wasn't gonna answer you. I really was like, man, what
d Moore won't and this and that, and it was
like the fact that you were vulnerable with me.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I really have been going through that.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
And it gets to the point to where now we
talk for a week or two, and then after that
we might not talk for a whole another year. But
now so you're on my list, keep calling you. And
that's what I'm saying right now. With everybody's going through this,
shout out to my dog Solomon Thomas. He's been going
through the mental health battle with dealing with his sister's
passing defensive linemen where they talk about mental health. I
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encourage every Dallas Cowboy fan, if y'all truly love Kneeland,
if y'all truly love these players and anybody, reach out
to their foundations and when you go through these foundations,
help them. But just send them that message to let
them know that you're there, because this twenty four is
too young. Regardless of the situation, It's not just him.
We're talking about a whole generation that has been tooken
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away from us. This man is a potential future father,
This man is somebody's son, This man is somebody brother, cousin,
and stuff like that. For these teammates that are going
in there leaving flowers here, you after a bye week
like this, you have to come in in the first day.
You have to do is sit here and remember that
your brother is not there. Like that is a lot.
And guess what, at the end of the day, They're
still going to have a game at the end of
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this week. And that's what makes it so tough. So
as much as y'all think these NFL player guys are
the guys.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
They're human.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
We're all human, and we once we can get back
to having empathy and just check him on everybody, we
can truly be here for each other because, like you said,
you never know.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
This guy had a smile. He was a part of
a biker club.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Like I seen one of his best friends was like, man,
I ain't gonna be able.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
To ride down the road with him.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Boy, seeing that that young man twenty four years old
doing them tricks on them bikes with that guy and
he was a completely different nationality. Like he has touched
everybody soul. Like this game of football brings us so
many opportunities to get to know people. But that's what
hurts so much is that now that you know him
as a player, now that you get to realize that
this is a family. This is real, bro, This ain't
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just collisions, this ain't just a tackle.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, now you know. It's very sad, you know, and
just to keep it a buck twenty four years old,
and you wonder, and there's so many questions that we
all have, you know, and there's a lot of questions
that just be answered, you know, unfortunately. But when you
look at it and everything goes hand in hand. Sports
psychology is so big and mental mental health is just
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as big as added at the same time, you know.
And I will go as far as to say, before
CT actually had a name, and before everybody understood what
was going on, you had so many dudes Muddy Waters,
Junior Seau, like all these different big name players who
are actually taking their lives but doing it in the
and and in the sense of leaving their brain untapped. Okay,
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like I'm gonna take myself, but I'm gonna leave this
because this needs to be studied. And one of the
things I feel like I'm so fortunate about, even though
my dad having CTE, is that, thank God that it
didn't get to the place where he actually felt like
he had to harm himself in any kind of way.
You know, And just like we all said, you know,
as as men, we're always taught, especially in this profession profession,
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to be as bravado and to be as strong and
as be just as as as brave as you can
be as a man. And a lot of times that
does mean diminishing your feelings or stepping behind something. But
at the end of the day, like like we already know,
if there's no outlet and you have no no source
of actually relieving yourself or venting or getting that stuff up,
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it's just it is gonna come to a head. And
as it's at some point in time, something's gonna happen,
You're gonna explode. It's going to be an outbreak, outburst
or anything. But you just want that place to be
able to have a place. Like you said, it doesn't
matter if it's five people or one person. Just be
able to communicate and and and be vulnerable enough to
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be true and and and and and help yourself and
help somebody else at the same time. Because those conversations
that you talk about, they're just not benefiting you. When
I make that phone call, they're benefiting both of us,
you know what I mean. And so you know, like
and and and and I say this to you guys
in here, like, hey man, we got to check on
each other. We have to and and and it is
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so detrimental and so important. But to have a loss
like this, man, it like you know, I really feel bad.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
And I just I be remiss if I didn't emphasize
that when we say check on each other, not just
a simple text, not just a simple cause, do it
more than once. Be intentional with it, because just as
much as you want to give the help, they have
to receive the help. But they have to know that
they whoever is receiving this information that they genuinely wanted
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doing that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
That's the whole thing. Man, in all aspects and walks
of life.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
If you can leave with love brings up to everybody
in that situation involved.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, incredibly tough situation and like you mentioned, man, such
a young life is so much future ahead of him
with the potential of being a dad coming down the pipe.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But yeah, it's a tough situation. It's one that there
is no script for, there is no blueprint for. You
don't know how to proceed with it, you don't know
how to.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Go on for it.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And fortunately, but unfortunately, this is a business. Yeah, this
is a business and somehow, some way, and this is
the reality of it all is these guys have to
come back into this building face this situation, but also
understand that seven days from today you have a football
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game that have to be played.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
And that's the tough part. Like how do you are
at least not to cut you off, Jesse, but we
know how you do it. You're young, you gotta do this.
The job is going to be. It sucks that we're
talking about a big empathetic moment and a human being,
but also in the realization that you're still a cog
in this machine that's going to keep going. Like some
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people that maybe wasn't as close to him, some people
that's waiting for the opportunity. They're gonna be like, yeah,
we gotta get out here and going. But there's a
lot of people that felt like that was their brother
and guess what, They're still going to go, But what
type of emotional I remember when the news broke about
Demarus Thomas passed away and I was on the field
and I just kept crying like I'm up there, like
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coaches like, hey, do you need a day and stuff
like that, and I'm like, nah, I still got to play.
Like if I don't play, I don't have this. And
so for some people, this is going to be their outlet.
But when this outlet is done, when this off season come,
when they go home after practice and it's like dang.
Normally when you pick up and call your boy and
tell them to come over and come kick it and
play the game and stuff like that, that's when it's
going to hit all over again. So not only do
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they have to process a game plan going out their
process to go play one of the physical, most physical
game on this earth, they got a process of grief
dominating thing, which is grief.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, it's tough, man, it is tough. And our thoughts
and our prayers goes out to Marshawn's family both near
and far, and of course Marshawn's teammates that are right
down the hall, and they have to find a way
to somehow compartmentalize this and grieve also and more also
while preparing to do a job that they've been paid
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to do. And it's it's an unfortunate situation. And I'll
leave with this is for those who may be dealing
with certain things. Find your community, get you know, call someone,
get therapy. If those if there's someone who would listen,
and I have I have people who are professionals therapists
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who've already reached out to me and said Jesse Holly,
if there's some people that you know that need professional help,
I will do it. We will do it for free.
So there are people are out there who are watching
this today, or watching the players' lones or hearing the
sound of my voice, who are looking for help and
maybe can't afford it right now because I know that
things are crazy in the in the economy. Reach out
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to me. I have professional people who are willing to
help you because you matter, You matter to us, you
matter to someone so and we want you here to
help you work through this. So there's no way to transition.
But we'll take our first break of the show, and
when we come back, football has to be played, and
so we'll talk about the new additions to the Cowboys
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and how that could potentially help them go on the
run that they need to for the rest of the season.
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The Cowboys season continues right now. The Cowboys sit at
three five and one, and things look daunting, right it
looks It looks rather daunting. The trade deadline has come
and gone, and the Cowboys had added some couple of
players to their to their roster. They went and they
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traded for Logan Wilson, linebacker of the Cincinnati Bengals. And
then they brought in Quinnin Williams, big.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Dog, the lead from the New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
In addition to you heard Steven and Jerry and others
talk about, hey, we got some we got some guys
that are getting healthy and on the come. Most people
didn't talk about it. But Kaylen Carson, right, he played
last week. Didn't do too bad, so you didn't even
didn't even recognize him out there, right, you know, the
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game was kind of out way out of rack a
little bit, but didn't do too bad. Didn't too too bad,
went back and watched the game. Didn't do too bad.
This is a guy who's still trying to feel his
way out. You get de Mariano Overshow returning. You get
savone rebel junior returning, excited to see him. So my
question is Anthony dor said, what the Cowboys have returning
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from this by the health, the health should be good
on here on out as far as tarking games, and
the Cowboys realistically make a run and get themselves in
a position to make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Okay, so I'm not dealing with any numbers right now
because I don't know numbers like that, all right, But
now to say what the Cowboys have actually done structurally
to the D line and to the defense, I can
relate it back to guys that I actually played with
and some of you guys might remember these names, Grady
Jackson and Daryl.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Russell, all right.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
D Russ was a third pick of the draft out
of USC D tackle similar to Quinn Williams, can ruin
the drill it and take over the game at any
time that he wanted to, right. And then you had
Grady Jackson too as well. And then on the outside,
of course, we had a couple of dudes who and
I'm not saying when I said a couple dudes, I
don't mean to omit their names and like they're just guys,
but we had some decent pass rushers at the same time.
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Once they were able to clog up that middle, all right,
and now the quarterback is not able to release and
come straight up the middle, and you got the pressure
coming on the outside. First of all, it's like everybody's
going to benefit as far as with pressures and everything
on the d line from having both of these dudes
Kenny Clark and quinnin out there now starting to show
exactly So now that rotation definitely increases, and now you've
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got another man in there, and it's all about keeping
d lineing fresh. We know how that works out right, Okay,
then to hear that Overshawan is coming back, who was
one of the bright spots of the defense last year
before he got hurt. I mean he was sidelined the sideline,
he making interceptions, recovery, whatever the case may be. The
Revel kid, everybody's been waiting to hear to see him
play because his upside and everything that he had in
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college and just his background story working at Amazon and
doing this and doing that, just to have an opportunity.
So what I'm looking at right now coming off this
buy is I hope that there's a surge and number
one confidence and just having this new uh, I guess
you could say top level player on the team who
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can actually help to his play make everybody better every
you know, like you know how it is, I go
get in the secondary with Charles Wisson. I won't play
like me, no mo, I won't try to get as
close to be like Charles Wooson Eric out as possible.
So like it made me have an accountability to try
to be that much better to at the same time,
and I just know that we all know this team
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needs a jump start, a boost of energy, a positive
vibe right now, and and and these two guys, Wilson
also the linebacker being and everybody coming back is definitely
something that is generating some energy in a positive place
for the Cowboys being So I'm hoping that whatever happens numerically,
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I know there's still second in the division, right Okay, so,
and that's playing to their benefit out of the endang,
but they've lost a lot of NFC teams at the
same time, but still being second in the division. So
I'm literally hoping, you know, And I'm not biased towards
the Cowboys. I'm just biased towards good football. And I'm
hoping that this actually makes the team a better team
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and his defense a lot better over these next few weeks.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
So Church, before you answer, can the Cowboys make a run?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Because I do want And I'm sorry I didn't answer that. Yes,
I think I hope they can make them. So I'm
not I don't have any confidence in in the and
for what I've seen thus far, but I do have
confidence in them bringing them guys of this caliber. All right,
what are you talking about? It's been it's like like
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we've had the conversation. There's been too much beating around
the bush right around here instead of going straight through
in and addressing issues and calling people out and holding
them accountable. All right, you're bringing a guy who's top
of his position at run, stopping and and and and.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Being able to do what he can.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Come on, man, you have to be optimistic in some
kind of light here. And regardless if I ever played
for the Cowboys and I I had a love affair
for this team. Wait before y'all did, probably you know
what I mean. So it goes back to like I
want to see them succeed that I just don't believe
in them all the time.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
And the fact is different. He asked you.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
He said, with the additions that they had, do you
see them making the playoff?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Really? I need yes to no hardball straight to the
answer yes or no? Playoff? Ready with the additions or not?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
He gave me a nice with the additions, if the
coaching goes right and they can get past the communication
issues that have been on the team, I see a yes.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Okay, Church to part that I want you to answer
before you answer the part about can they make a
push for the playoffs? Is you always talk about in
football terms that the rush helps the coverage coverage helps
the coverage, right, they're tired, hand in hand, right they
go Russian cover goes hand in hand. Does the addition
(25:46):
of Quinn Williams now give you a better because in
the back end the Cowboys get cool. Does this type
of addition give you faith that the boys will be
able to defend on the back end better? I do believe,
And why I do believe.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
And it is tough because it's not like they're adding
you know, one of the top you know, past rushers
in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Quin Williams is a flat out dog.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
He's a beast and you know, against the run, and
he understands how to you know, create pressure for the
middle of the field, which quarterbacks hate. Like when you
you can always step up in the pocket if you
getting drussed, but quarterbacks hate when that for the frontal
pressure comes at you. But as much of a dog
as Queen Quinn Williams is, he's not that Aaron Donald
type of guy that can affect the quarterback as quickly
as that as as Aaron Donald could. You know, he's
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a beast, but he's not particularly at that level. And
I believe that's what the secondary needs most, right, now
is somebody who can get the get the quarterback off
of his spot immediately, like not giving this guy a
chance to go through his progressions. And what we've seen
so far this year, that's what all quarterbacks have been
able to do against the secondary. They've been able to say, oh,
all right, ones not there, two's not there, let me
go back to one. Because we all all that you know,
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coverany series for that long. So it's gonna be tough
for them to get that much better in the secondary
when they still don't have that elite edge rusher. But
where I think it'll help is a lot of these
offensive linemen. They're gonna put a lot of tension on
Quinn Williams rightfully, So this dude's a dog that should
theoretically give the rest of these guys on that defensive
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line more one on one opportunities. Now, with that being said,
can these guys consistently win those one on ones? We
haven't seen that so far this year. Like I would
love to see more from Dante Fowler. This is a
guy that when he was here, you know a couple
of years ago, double digit sack guy went to Washington
double digit sack guy.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
This year he's not really producing that way. You gotta
watch it. You gotta watch it.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
He's numbers.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
I didn't realize last game that he was leading the
team in pressures in most QB hits even though he
doesn't have the sack. Unless that was an inaccurate fact
that the commentator gave us. He has the most QB
hits on that D line. He just don't have the
what you call it to back it up. So I
just what he said. Let me just play devils at.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
And we see Clowny starting to clumb along a little
bit as well. But you just need to see more
consistently win on one on ones along this defensive line
because they've had their opportunities. They've had it so helping
the secondary in the back, and I believe he will
come in and help, But not like astronomically where this.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Is like a guy come off the edge just this.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
This secondary could just sit on routes that that's not
the case as far as them making a run, you know,
getting into this, this to the playoffs or whatever the
case may be.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You know, I gotta believe it.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
I was like, hey, I can't put the energy out there,
like I ain't gonna be able to gotta believe that,
and they are getting healthier in the secondary.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So stop, they can make a run.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Stop with the fluff, with this offense that they have,
they can make a run.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
They can.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
You know, we've seen it, you know this up and
down lady. But they can make a run. With the
offensive they have and the additions of Quinn Williams and
Logan Wilson, who I think is going to surprise a
lot of cats, they can make a run, honestly in
my opinion.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
But I've been, I've been, I've been to counseling, and
I be remiss. I love what my counselor said, because
we've been talking about counseling. They said, when you go
in there and you're talking to somebody, you gotta give
him the hamburger. You gotta give them the fluff, the dressing,
and then the meat and the potatoes. Boy, y'all made
a nice good burger with all that fluff. He that
man salt Pepper Poppy asked, y'all said, based off of
(29:29):
the Deep Watch.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You can call it whatever you want.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Hey, Hey, I'm good over here. I'm the epathy God.
It's me.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Anyways, he told y'all, he said, you that's been buris
thing this whole season on the show. Oh, behind four,
we trust, behind me, we do this. No, he asked
y'all for the defense of players that they added, And
you think that changed.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That, well, I asked you the same question. Get give
me the substance of the burger.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Substance of the burger.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
They added enough defensive talent, and we all know that
it takes something really big and momentum to happen during
the season. I'm gonna say right now, with the turmoil
that they had, they're gonna bond and stuff like that
and hopefully come together with the star players that they have.
I could see them maybe squeezing theirselfs into the playoffs,
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not so much as because of the defensive players. The
defensive players are naturally are going to help them.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yes or no.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
The difference that you know how they say some people
listen to rebuttal or something. First of all, you see
you see, you see how y'all y'all just wanted to
interrupt me. I said, I see them squeezing into the playoffs.
I was about to get my direction of why I
see them y'all started off with.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
All the other he asked for. He asked you, and
I told you.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
I said, I see them squeezing theirself in the playoffs.
And then he asked me, why do I this way?
And like I said, it's not because of the players. Yes,
they're gonna get better because these players are good, but
the division is so trash right now. There is nothing
that is It's not like you're over there with the
Patriots who have came back. You're not talking about teams
that are both going to be in double digit wins.
(31:18):
We're talking about a week division that somebody's gonna make
it in the playoffs with maybe eight, possibly nine, eight wins.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
They sorry about the whole NFC.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Yes, that's that is the saving grace of why they're
going to make it to the playoffs, not because the players,
not because it's chinmatics, but the other teams are still
leaving them in the fight. So that's why they might
squeeze in there. Do you think the NFC is trash
right now?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
The way that is going? You got, you got, what
what is Washington doing? Washington?
Speaker 6 (31:47):
That's what I'm talking about their division them right there
like out of those No, I'm talking about the East
is so trashed like Washington's doing bad. Giants just fired
their head coach.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, but your three games behind the lead in Philly
and they already have a game up on you. They
do like the Path. In my opinion, the Path is
not trying to win the that's that's you can pretty
much you need an epicop Colli what you said.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
They need to figure out a way to squeeze up
in there.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
You try to find a wild car situation. This is
and this is and this is the part where they've
kind of screwed themselves a little bit because in order
to find a wild car you have to remember you
lost to the Bears Arizona, Arizona, You tied the Packers
and you lost, and you lost to the Carolina Panthers,
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all those teams that now your losses are you know,
so now count end. It's tough because the Bears probably
may get a spot.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I think the NFC West, that's you know what.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I'm saying that back, you gotta hope that there's a
collapse in Chicago and now all of a sudden they
go from being I think they were five and eight,
six and eight, start three and eight or Chicago is
six and three. Right now, I'm gonna say five, and
I'm keep saying the eight, five and three.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Uh, which I think that can happen because their division,
they're gonna eat each other up there. They got you
still gonna have Detroit, Yeah, Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, like
they're all gonna play each other.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
So that should work it so so how but that's
what I'm saying, those teams in that division who are
better than you get the wild card. That is true,
and that's what that's what we got to get. That's
so you got to try to find your way in
through the back door.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
So how do they how do they find That's why
I said, I don't think it happened.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Is a very when like the next seven you gotta
go seven to one in the last eight games, or
at least six and two in the last And that's
a tough.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
That's tough, very tough.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That's just that's just you're asking a lot. And and
when you talk about this.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Team, it's like you need your big dogs to be
the big dogs and go out there and play like
you can't have flash in the pan, like oh my boy,
old Digg doing this thing.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
But he's up and down like he's too he's too
much of a roller coaster rat, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
So it's like you got to your big dogs, got
to step up and play consistently each and every week,
and you just don't see that.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
From that And that's what I was going to ask you,
all right, So.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Hold that thought, hold that thought. Let us do our
final break the show. We got to pay these bills,
and when we come back, we'll pick up what demontre
where you left off. And I do still want to
ask the question because we have asked a question about
do you think they can make a run? But also
is this where you thought the Cowboys would be at
this point in time of the season at the beginning
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Speaker 2 (37:31):
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there's no way. There's no way that you read it.
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Speaker 4 (37:43):
Can I ask you that give me it us just
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Speaker 3 (37:49):
No, no, no, I know, I know. I kept. I kept.
That's why I had to ride. I had to. I
tried to go with it. I didn't think Chris is.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Gonna No nobody that I don't.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I don't believe.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I don't believe you got what you got away with
one earlier.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
No, I didn't get away one ear ear earlier, was right,
I will I did. I messed up on the last
I messed up on the last one.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
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Speaker 6 (38:27):
No, no hold on. So I'm a fat guy. So
let's figure this out. So which one day I messed
up on earlier?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
But it was you know what it was? It was
during the the first segment, and so players up, you know,
mess up up on that.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Last one, I said, Santana, but I knew I missed.
See I'm that type of kid that if I mess up,
I'm just going take double down. You don't have to
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don't have to have to.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
If you ever feel like you're doing something wrong, just
look up at the people eyes.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
That's the problem. No, that's the problem. No, that's the problem.
But because I.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
I was like, yeah, so that's the that's the thing, guys,
you don't know crazy. If you have confidence, that's all
that matters. They didn't even know that was good. Did
the sniper did what he always doesn't come from the back?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Look, whoa, whoa, Hey, okay snipers.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
All right, man, let's oh wow. I'm going on to man.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
You did that on air? It was you you. I'm sorry,
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just so it's all right.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
You didn't got word on the back.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
You gotta worry about that right now, saying usb portest.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I hope we don't go viral for this.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
For to all my Santana Santa's.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I don't know. I don't do Chris, I don't even
know that.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Where was we going with this before? I don't even know.
I don't even know defensive line. I guess.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
This money on this d line.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
So let's just lets do for in the show, so
we talked about do we think the Cowboys what their
recent additions, have enough to make a run. But let's
take it even the step further and look back when
you guys made your predictions earlier in the summer, if
(41:00):
you got a round training camp, you know, did you
guys see the Cowboys being here at three five and
one midway through the season. I'll start yes, I'll start
with did you feel the Cowboys are going to be
at this place right here?
Speaker 6 (41:17):
Yes, they're right there on that mark I said about
what I said about eight or nine wins depending on
what was going to happen with the defense. I didn't
think the offense was gonna be doing this good. I
thought it was gonna be more evenly matched. I didn't
think it would be so lopsided. But yeah, I didn't
think it was. I didn't see playoffs like that. Okay,
(41:38):
it was too much just going into the season. It
was too many questions, Like I was really excited about
the George picking stray him come in and I was like, Okay, hey,
this is gonna give back another option. But with the
questions that were running back the question of office line
and then obviously defense, and then once Parsons was gone,
it was like, oh, yeah, they're they're they're swimming uphill
(41:59):
for me, So yeah, they're right around the mark line.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Honestly, Anthony, this when you were looking at your preseason
prediction of what the Cowboys are going to be this season,
halfway through the season, did you think that it would
look this way?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
I honestly thought that they might win about eight games
this year, just I think me and Trey was in place.
Did I expect it to look the way it has looked?
Not at all? Like you I was questioning. You know,
my biggest question all all summer in trending camp was
the ring game. Never thought that Williams was gonna come
here and turn out to be what he's turned out
(42:35):
to be. Always have faith in Dak, but just never
thought that the losses that they have accumulated, they would
accumulate them the way that they did. You know, I
thought that that literally they would beat the teams that
we expected them to beat. I thought they would win
those games. But nah, and and and like Trey said,
I did see the issues with the defense, especially after
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Micah was gone.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
So yeah, and for me, I thought this team was
have three more victories, man, Like I thought Chicago, Carolina, Arizona.
I'm like, okay, those were marked on mine as like
those are dub you know W's, you know, Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I thought they might take that l But when I
looked at it, it.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Was just like so far, I just didn't think that
they would be where they are right now, and especially defensively.
Like I knew they lost Michael Parsons and I knew
I was gonna hurt, but the second to play, even
before the injuries to Diggs and all that stuff, it
was like, man, these guys don't communicate. You got too
many busts in the coverages, like mental mistakes, and that's
(43:34):
not something you see from a defense coach by flush like,
because the system is so it's so simple where you
could just it's one check here. It ain't like Rob
Ryan system where he got a check for every single
motion or if the guy looks this way, we're checking
it that. It's a very simple defense and these guys
just haven't been able to get a grasp on it.
And it's it's looked historically bad so far, but man,
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they gonna make a run though bump.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
All that they gonna make a run song. They gonna
make a run man. All right, man, that does it?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Can we put them on record? Can we put pressure
on him tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
All right? So that does it for us. I'll be
what you guy say, Yes, you're here all week. I'm
all week. Tell this this is no no, no, what're
you about to say?
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Tell the fans? Oh yeah, you tell your viewers, bring
your followers.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, I thought you getting ready to say, hey, you
should be here more.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
No, no, no, I don't do that. I don't don't
do that.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
There's nothing wrong with you now. But I have created
a good seat in my show, and I don't I
don't mind coming over here with rental. But I've created
I've created a good niche and on hanging with the
boys big name and Kurt and Kurt. We got a
good thing going over there. We've got a good old thing.
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And I want to do well. I don't want to
do well over here upstairs, Michael, like you know what,
Let's make it a truly a player's loud. Alright, So
all week. I hope that you will join us for
the rest of the week. As we get more into
the Cowboys as they prepare themselves to deal with the
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Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
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Some tragic news came down a week ago for the
Dallas Cowboys with the untimely passing of defensive end twenty
four year olds. Then Marshawn Neeland and we don't have
(01:19):
to get into the details of it all, but I
just wanted to open up and give you guys space
and room because mental health is something that a lot
of us deal with. I know personally. I talked about
it on the last show, so I won't eat up
the airtime with that again on this show. But mental
(01:39):
health is something that a lot of athletes, a lot
of people in general deal with and i'd set me personally,
I deal with those things as well, because there are
so many pressures that a lot of people don't realize
that athletes have to go to. Not only just being
able to perform Sunday in and Sunday out, you know,
(02:03):
but there are things that you know, a guy coming
to take your spot, the coach has been on you
contract year, dealing with injuries, battling it, and that's not
even dealing with the home stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, exactly, You're just dealing with the stuff in the building.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You dealing with stuff in the building. You know, the
media critique and the team's not playing well, and you
know you have expectations for yourself and you're not living
up to them, and so you're a critique in yourself.
And again that's all in the building stressors, nothing to
do what's going on, you know at home and you
know Marshawn, you know whose mom passed eighteen months ago.
(02:39):
So you know, sometimes people don't get over those type
of things. If you're lose, if you lose a parent
or dealing with whatever. There's a multitude things that we
can talk about in this but I wanted to give
the open space for guys to talk about, you know,
this type of situation and if you deal with you know,
mental health, what are some of the things that you
(03:00):
do to kind of help you win the day to
day battle. So I'll open up the floor to you,
you know, oh for sure.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Well, you know, when it comes to you know, mental
health and all that stuff, I'm serious on that as well,
because you know, from a young age going off through football, you're.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Kind of taught to suppress that stuff.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
You know, don't complain or you know, don't cry on
the football field, and you know, don't let emotions. You know,
as men, you kind of are to growing up to
suppress that and it all comes to a point where
you know, it boils over. I mean we've seen it
happen time and time again. But when it comes to
you know, to lots of h Marshawn, it's it's extremely
(03:41):
tough man and and you know, it kind of threw
me back to when I had lots of teammate of
my own, Jerry Brown, you know, during that on that
whole whole ordeal.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And it's super sad because you know these guys are young.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I mean at twenty four, you know what I'm saying
what you do, what can you imagine you know the
rest of that life to be. And it's just so young, man,
so young, and so tragic. So it's extremely sad. And
that's why I always say, man, check on your people.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
You know, it's just not even you don't even have
to be like a full hour long conversation, just a
text message just to hey, how you doing?
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Man?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You know what's going on with you?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You know, hollow things going because you never know, you know,
you might text the right person that day that needs
somebody to talk to, and you need somebody to vent
out to. And so I always encourage people to just
reach out and if you can yourself a group.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
They don't even have to be a group.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Maybe it's just spousal, your loved one, just someone that
you can regularly talk to, you know, maybe once a week.
There's nothing wrong with therapy. I'm just venting on It
could be you know, how great life is going, or it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Could be the struggles that's going on.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
But just venting and getting you know, those emotions off
of your body, man, is definitely a.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Huge for me.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Yeah, for me, mental health is it's the forefront of everything.
I realize it now being fortunate enough to you know what,
this is a special occasion. We actually got four players
here now at the show and shout out to Newly.
He's seen this time and time again. Working in this
industry for over two plus decades. Within itself, you get
(05:12):
to meet different people, You get to meet different personality.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
We always make that ongoing joke when we're young, Hey,
you gotta be a little different to play football.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
You gotta be a man's man, like there's something that's
not wired right with you to make it to this level,
to go want to hit a man at full speed,
high collision and all this. And it's like my dad,
I'm a walking cook, Liz. My dad always said there's
some truth behind every joke. You sit there and say
that somebody's not wired right, Well, you don't know that.
For me, I've been that guy. I'm the guy that
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is always smiling in the room. I have ADHD, I've
suffer from PTSD. I go to counseling at least twice
a week and not shout out to the NFL trust.
You know, they offer resources to where we can go
to counseling. And for me, it wasn't until my friend
de Marus Thomas, he passed away, going and seeing him
growing up, watching guys like marrying the Barbarian going through
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like him to be this iconic guy, and we lost
him a few years ago. There's been a list of
multiple tude of guys that towards the end of my
playing career, I was like, I know that I've been
the emotional guy. I know I'm the guy that's always
ready to turn on and turn on that light switch.
But my biggest fear is when I got off that field.
Whenever this comes to I didn't realize how therapeutic football
(06:26):
was for me and my connections that I started to
reach out and we were just talking about it before
we got on air. AD I went and did the
brain and body assessment this past weekend and to really
just truly go out there and see your body and
how it's working and what's going on. I really challenged
people too. And when I say challenge people, I'm looking
at you all as players, because we all got our
(06:46):
own niche. You talk all the time about your dad
and his friends, and you experiencing them and not only them.
You're at the age now to where a lot of
your peers are either still here or not here. I'm
at the age I think I'm the youngest one at
this table going through that big dog he's salt pepper
popular age out there. But you up there, like we
all got four different generations of football that is going
(07:07):
on right here. And when I do motivational speaking, I
go and talk to people like we've always been told
man up, don't do this and do that. Well, truly,
manning up is saying that, Hey, we all go through
a motion like I'm that guy and Barry, I tell
you I love Barry and ad no.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Two.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
But how many times do I call y'all? And I'm
trying to get a point across, But it's like, I
don't just call once, like I know we say pick
up a phone, call and text somebody and do this
and that. It's not only us at this table, but
I'm talking to America looking at y'all. Call that person,
and when you call them, don't just call them once.
Don't just call them twice. If it's really on your spirit,
call them three times. Because I tell people all the
(07:44):
time when I call, I'm gonna call you at least
two times. And then if you don't answer me, and
if it's important enough, I'm gonna call you that evening
or that next day, and then you're gonna have three
of them, just like it says in the Bible, things
coming three. I want you to know that it was
that important, because just as it was important and you
reach out to these people, we always have that stigma
as men, the biggest line and the biggest misconception that
(08:04):
we always say, what do you say? How you doing, brother,
I'm straight, I'm good, I'm making it and this and that,
and they be like, okay, I got to the point
cause people don't realize when you're on Instagram and you're posting.
Some people post to say hey, I need motivation, But
a lot of the time, as players, we're posting for ourselves.
We're posting them. We say, hey, it was only one person.
Because we feel alone, we feel isolated. We got to
(08:26):
remind ourselves that we're still that guy. We're posting the
old highlights and stuff like that, and fans are out
there like, hey man, you were great, you were doing
this and that, and that little reassurance kind of brings
us back to reality. And I'll call my boys and
be like, hey, bro, you sure you good, because I
see the way that you're posting, and even if you're not,
this is what I went through, brother, and so I
just want to make sure you're good. And every time
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I get done with one of them conversations, I always
get the man, I really appreciate it because I really
wasn't gonna answer you. I really was like, man, what
d Moore won't and this and that, and it was
like the fact that you were vulnerable with me.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I really have been going through that.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
And it gets to the point to where now we
talk for a week or two, and then after that
we might not talk for a whole another year. But
now so you're on my list, keep calling you. And
that's what I'm saying right now. With everybody's going through this,
shout out to my dog Solomon Thomas. He's been going
through the mental health battle with dealing with his sister's
passing defensive linemen where they talk about mental health. I
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encourage every Dallas Cowboy fan, if y'all truly love Kneeland,
if y'all truly love these players and anybody, reach out
to their foundations and when you go through these foundations,
help them. But just send them that message to let
them know that you're there, because this twenty four is
too young. Regardless of the situation, It's not just him.
We're talking about a whole generation that has been tooken
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away from us. This man is a potential future father,
This man is somebody's son, This man is somebody brother, cousin,
and stuff like that. For these teammates that are going
in there leaving flowers here, you after a bye week
like this, you have to come in in the first day.
You have to do is sit here and remember that
your brother is not there. Like that is a lot.
And guess what, at the end of the day, They're
still going to have a game at the end of
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this week. And that's what makes it so tough. So
as much as y'all think these NFL player guys are
the guys.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
They're human.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
We're all human, and we once we can get back
to having empathy and just check him on everybody, we
can truly be here for each other because, like you said,
you never know.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
This guy had a smile. He was a part of
a biker club.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Like I seen one of his best friends was like, man,
I ain't gonna be able.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
To ride down the road with him.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Boy, seeing that that young man twenty four years old
doing them tricks on them bikes with that guy and
he was a completely different nationality. Like he has touched
everybody soul. Like this game of football brings us so
many opportunities to get to know people. But that's what
hurts so much is that now that you know him
as a player, now that you get to realize that
this is a family. This is real, bro, This ain't
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just collisions, this ain't just a tackle.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, now you know. It's very sad, you know, and
just to keep it a buck twenty four years old,
and you wonder, and there's so many questions that we
all have, you know, and there's a lot of questions
that just be answered, you know, unfortunately. But when you
look at it and everything goes hand in hand. Sports
psychology is so big and mental mental health is just
(11:08):
as big as added at the same time, you know.
And I will go as far as to say, before
CT actually had a name, and before everybody understood what
was going on, you had so many dudes Muddy Waters,
Junior Seau, like all these different big name players who
are actually taking their lives but doing it in the
and and in the sense of leaving their brain untapped. Okay,
(11:30):
like I'm gonna take myself, but I'm gonna leave this
because this needs to be studied. And one of the
things I feel like I'm so fortunate about, even though
my dad having CTE, is that, thank God that it
didn't get to the place where he actually felt like
he had to harm himself in any kind of way.
You know, And just like we all said, you know,
as as men, we're always taught, especially in this profession profession,
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to be as bravado and to be as strong and
as be just as as as brave as you can
be as a man. And a lot of times that
does mean diminishing your feelings or stepping behind something. But
at the end of the day, like like we already know,
if there's no outlet and you have no no source
of actually relieving yourself or venting or getting that stuff up,
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it's just it is gonna come to a head. And
as it's at some point in time, something's gonna happen,
You're gonna explode. It's going to be an outbreak, outburst
or anything. But you just want that place to be
able to have a place. Like you said, it doesn't
matter if it's five people or one person. Just be
able to communicate and and and be vulnerable enough to
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be true and and and and and help yourself and
help somebody else at the same time. Because those conversations
that you talk about, they're just not benefiting you. When
I make that phone call, they're benefiting both of us,
you know what I mean. And so you know, like
and and and and I say this to you guys
in here, like, hey man, we got to check on
each other. We have to and and and it is
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so detrimental and so important. But to have a loss
like this, man, it like you know, I really feel bad.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
And I just I be remiss if I didn't emphasize
that when we say check on each other, not just
a simple text, not just a simple cause, do it
more than once. Be intentional with it, because just as
much as you want to give the help, they have
to receive the help. But they have to know that
they whoever is receiving this information that they genuinely wanted
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doing that.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
That's the whole thing. Man, in all aspects and walks
of life.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
If you can leave with love brings up to everybody
in that situation involved.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, incredibly tough situation and like you mentioned, man, such
a young life is so much future ahead of him
with the potential of being a dad coming down the pipe.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But yeah, it's a tough situation. It's one that there
is no script for, there is no blueprint for. You
don't know how to proceed with it, you don't know
how to.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Go on for it.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And fortunately, but unfortunately, this is a business. Yeah, this
is a business and somehow, some way, and this is
the reality of it all is these guys have to
come back into this building face this situation, but also
understand that seven days from today you have a football
(14:14):
game that have to be played.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
And that's the tough part. Like how do you are
at least not to cut you off, Jesse, but we
know how you do it. You're young, you gotta do this.
The job is going to be. It sucks that we're
talking about a big empathetic moment and a human being,
but also in the realization that you're still a cog
in this machine that's going to keep going. Like some
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people that maybe wasn't as close to him, some people
that's waiting for the opportunity. They're gonna be like, yeah,
we gotta get out here and going. But there's a
lot of people that felt like that was their brother
and guess what, They're still going to go, But what
type of emotional I remember when the news broke about
Demarus Thomas passed away and I was on the field
and I just kept crying like I'm up there, like
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coaches like, hey, do you need a day and stuff
like that, and I'm like, nah, I still got to play.
Like if I don't play, I don't have this. And
so for some people, this is going to be their outlet.
But when this outlet is done, when this off season come,
when they go home after practice and it's like dang.
Normally when you pick up and call your boy and
tell them to come over and come kick it and
play the game and stuff like that, that's when it's
going to hit all over again. So not only do
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they have to process a game plan going out their
process to go play one of the physical, most physical
game on this earth, they got a process of grief
dominating thing, which is grief.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, it's tough, man, it is tough. And our thoughts
and our prayers goes out to Marshawn's family both near
and far, and of course Marshawn's teammates that are right
down the hall, and they have to find a way
to somehow compartmentalize this and grieve also and more also
while preparing to do a job that they've been paid
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to do. And it's it's an unfortunate situation. And I'll
leave with this is for those who may be dealing
with certain things. Find your community, get you know, call someone,
get therapy. If those if there's someone who would listen,
and I have I have people who are professionals therapists
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who've already reached out to me and said Jesse Holly,
if there's some people that you know that need professional help,
I will do it. We will do it for free.
So there are people are out there who are watching
this today, or watching the players' lones or hearing the
sound of my voice, who are looking for help and
maybe can't afford it right now because I know that
things are crazy in the in the economy. Reach out
(16:33):
to me. I have professional people who are willing to
help you because you matter, You matter to us, you
matter to someone so and we want you here to
help you work through this. So there's no way to transition.
But we'll take our first break of the show, and
when we come back, football has to be played, and
so we'll talk about the new additions to the Cowboys
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and how that could potentially help them go on the
run that they need to for the rest of the season.
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Speaker 2 (19:37):
The Cowboys season continues right now. The Cowboys sit at
three five and one, and things look daunting, right it
looks It looks rather daunting. The trade deadline has come
and gone, and the Cowboys had added some couple of
players to their to their roster. They went and they
(20:00):
traded for Logan Wilson, linebacker of the Cincinnati Bengals. And
then they brought in Quinnin Williams, big.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Dog, the lead from the New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
In addition to you heard Steven and Jerry and others
talk about, hey, we got some we got some guys
that are getting healthy and on the come. Most people
didn't talk about it. But Kaylen Carson, right, he played
last week. Didn't do too bad, so you didn't even
didn't even recognize him out there, right, you know, the
(20:33):
game was kind of out way out of rack a
little bit, but didn't do too bad. Didn't too too bad,
went back and watched the game. Didn't do too bad.
This is a guy who's still trying to feel his
way out. You get de Mariano Overshow returning. You get
savone rebel junior returning, excited to see him. So my
question is Anthony dor said, what the Cowboys have returning
(20:59):
from this by the health, the health should be good
on here on out as far as tarking games, and
the Cowboys realistically make a run and get themselves in
a position to make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Okay, so I'm not dealing with any numbers right now
because I don't know numbers like that, all right, But
now to say what the Cowboys have actually done structurally
to the D line and to the defense, I can
relate it back to guys that I actually played with
and some of you guys might remember these names, Grady
Jackson and Daryl.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Russell, all right.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
D Russ was a third pick of the draft out
of USC D tackle similar to Quinn Williams, can ruin
the drill it and take over the game at any
time that he wanted to, right. And then you had
Grady Jackson too as well. And then on the outside,
of course, we had a couple of dudes who and
I'm not saying when I said a couple dudes, I
don't mean to omit their names and like they're just guys,
but we had some decent pass rushers at the same time.
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Once they were able to clog up that middle, all right,
and now the quarterback is not able to release and
come straight up the middle, and you got the pressure
coming on the outside. First of all, it's like everybody's
going to benefit as far as with pressures and everything
on the d line from having both of these dudes
Kenny Clark and quinnin out there now starting to show
exactly So now that rotation definitely increases, and now you've
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got another man in there, and it's all about keeping
d lineing fresh. We know how that works out right, Okay,
then to hear that Overshawan is coming back, who was
one of the bright spots of the defense last year
before he got hurt. I mean he was sidelined the sideline,
he making interceptions, recovery, whatever the case may be. The
Revel kid, everybody's been waiting to hear to see him
play because his upside and everything that he had in
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college and just his background story working at Amazon and
doing this and doing that, just to have an opportunity.
So what I'm looking at right now coming off this
buy is I hope that there's a surge and number
one confidence and just having this new uh, I guess
you could say top level player on the team who
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can actually help to his play make everybody better every
you know, like you know how it is, I go
get in the secondary with Charles Wisson. I won't play
like me, no mo, I won't try to get as
close to be like Charles Wooson Eric out as possible.
So like it made me have an accountability to try
to be that much better to at the same time,
and I just know that we all know this team
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needs a jump start, a boost of energy, a positive
vibe right now, and and and these two guys, Wilson
also the linebacker being and everybody coming back is definitely
something that is generating some energy in a positive place
for the Cowboys being So I'm hoping that whatever happens numerically,
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I know there's still second in the division, right Okay, so,
and that's playing to their benefit out of the endang,
but they've lost a lot of NFC teams at the
same time, but still being second in the division. So
I'm literally hoping, you know, And I'm not biased towards
the Cowboys. I'm just biased towards good football. And I'm
hoping that this actually makes the team a better team
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and his defense a lot better over these next few weeks.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
So Church, before you answer, can the Cowboys make a run?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Because I do want And I'm sorry I didn't answer that. Yes,
I think I hope they can make them. So I'm
not I don't have any confidence in in the and
for what I've seen thus far, but I do have
confidence in them bringing them guys of this caliber. All right,
what are you talking about? It's been it's like like
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we've had the conversation. There's been too much beating around
the bush right around here instead of going straight through
in and addressing issues and calling people out and holding
them accountable. All right, you're bringing a guy who's top
of his position at run, stopping and and and and.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Being able to do what he can.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Come on, man, you have to be optimistic in some
kind of light here. And regardless if I ever played
for the Cowboys and I I had a love affair
for this team. Wait before y'all did, probably you know
what I mean. So it goes back to like I
want to see them succeed that I just don't believe
in them all the time.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
And the fact is different. He asked you.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
He said, with the additions that they had, do you
see them making the playoff?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Really? I need yes to no hardball straight to the
answer yes or no? Playoff? Ready with the additions or not?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
He gave me a nice with the additions, if the
coaching goes right and they can get past the communication
issues that have been on the team, I see a yes.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Okay, Church to part that I want you to answer
before you answer the part about can they make a
push for the playoffs? Is you always talk about in
football terms that the rush helps the coverage coverage helps
the coverage, right, they're tired, hand in hand, right they
go Russian cover goes hand in hand. Does the addition
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of Quinn Williams now give you a better because in
the back end the Cowboys get cool. Does this type
of addition give you faith that the boys will be
able to defend on the back end better? I do believe,
And why I do believe.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
And it is tough because it's not like they're adding
you know, one of the top you know, past rushers
in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Quin Williams is a flat out dog.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
He's a beast and you know, against the run, and
he understands how to you know, create pressure for the
middle of the field, which quarterbacks hate. Like when you
you can always step up in the pocket if you
getting drussed, but quarterbacks hate when that for the frontal
pressure comes at you. But as much of a dog
as Queen Quinn Williams is, he's not that Aaron Donald
type of guy that can affect the quarterback as quickly
as that as as Aaron Donald could. You know, he's
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a beast, but he's not particularly at that level. And
I believe that's what the secondary needs most, right, now
is somebody who can get the get the quarterback off
of his spot immediately, like not giving this guy a
chance to go through his progressions. And what we've seen
so far this year, that's what all quarterbacks have been
able to do against the secondary. They've been able to say, oh,
all right, ones not there, two's not there, let me
go back to one. Because we all all that you know,
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coverany series for that long. So it's gonna be tough
for them to get that much better in the secondary
when they still don't have that elite edge rusher. But
where I think it'll help is a lot of these
offensive linemen. They're gonna put a lot of tension on
Quinn Williams rightfully, So this dude's a dog that should
theoretically give the rest of these guys on that defensive
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line more one on one opportunities. Now, with that being said,
can these guys consistently win those one on ones? We
haven't seen that so far this year. Like I would
love to see more from Dante Fowler. This is a
guy that when he was here, you know a couple
of years ago, double digit sack guy went to Washington
double digit sack guy.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
This year he's not really producing that way. You gotta
watch it. You gotta watch it.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
He's numbers.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
I didn't realize last game that he was leading the
team in pressures in most QB hits even though he
doesn't have the sack. Unless that was an inaccurate fact
that the commentator gave us. He has the most QB
hits on that D line. He just don't have the
what you call it to back it up. So I
just what he said. Let me just play devils at.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
And we see Clowny starting to clumb along a little
bit as well. But you just need to see more
consistently win on one on ones along this defensive line
because they've had their opportunities. They've had it so helping
the secondary in the back, and I believe he will
come in and help, But not like astronomically where this.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Is like a guy come off the edge just this.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
This secondary could just sit on routes that that's not
the case as far as them making a run, you know,
getting into this, this to the playoffs or whatever the
case may be.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You know, I gotta believe it.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
I was like, hey, I can't put the energy out there,
like I ain't gonna be able to gotta believe that,
and they are getting healthier in the secondary.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So stop, they can make a run.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Stop with the fluff, with this offense that they have,
they can make a run.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
They can.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
You know, we've seen it, you know this up and
down lady. But they can make a run. With the
offensive they have and the additions of Quinn Williams and
Logan Wilson, who I think is going to surprise a
lot of cats, they can make a run, honestly in
my opinion.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
But I've been, I've been, I've been to counseling, and
I be remiss. I love what my counselor said, because
we've been talking about counseling. They said, when you go
in there and you're talking to somebody, you gotta give
him the hamburger. You gotta give them the fluff, the dressing,
and then the meat and the potatoes. Boy, y'all made
a nice good burger with all that fluff. He that
man salt Pepper Poppy asked, y'all said, based off of
(29:29):
the Deep Watch.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You can call it whatever you want.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Hey, Hey, I'm good over here. I'm the epathy God.
It's me.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Anyways, he told y'all, he said, you that's been buris
thing this whole season on the show. Oh, behind four,
we trust, behind me, we do this. No, he asked
y'all for the defense of players that they added, And
you think that changed.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That, well, I asked you the same question. Get give
me the substance of the burger.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Substance of the burger.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
They added enough defensive talent, and we all know that
it takes something really big and momentum to happen during
the season. I'm gonna say right now, with the turmoil
that they had, they're gonna bond and stuff like that
and hopefully come together with the star players that they have.
I could see them maybe squeezing theirselfs into the playoffs,
(30:24):
not so much as because of the defensive players. The
defensive players are naturally are going to help them.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yes or no.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
The difference that you know how they say some people
listen to rebuttal or something. First of all, you see
you see, you see how y'all y'all just wanted to
interrupt me. I said, I see them squeezing into the playoffs.
I was about to get my direction of why I
see them y'all started off with.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
All the other he asked for. He asked you, and
I told you.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
I said, I see them squeezing theirself in the playoffs.
And then he asked me, why do I this way?
And like I said, it's not because of the players. Yes,
they're gonna get better because these players are good, but
the division is so trash right now. There is nothing
that is It's not like you're over there with the
Patriots who have came back. You're not talking about teams
that are both going to be in double digit wins.
(31:18):
We're talking about a week division that somebody's gonna make
it in the playoffs with maybe eight, possibly nine, eight wins.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
They sorry about the whole NFC.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Yes, that's that is the saving grace of why they're
going to make it to the playoffs, not because the players,
not because it's chinmatics, but the other teams are still
leaving them in the fight. So that's why they might
squeeze in there. Do you think the NFC is trash
right now?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
The way that is going? You got, you got, what
what is Washington doing? Washington?
Speaker 6 (31:47):
That's what I'm talking about their division them right there
like out of those No, I'm talking about the East
is so trashed like Washington's doing bad. Giants just fired
their head coach.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, but your three games behind the lead in Philly
and they already have a game up on you. They
do like the Path. In my opinion, the Path is
not trying to win the that's that's you can pretty
much you need an epicop Colli what you said.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
They need to figure out a way to squeeze up
in there.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
You try to find a wild car situation. This is
and this is and this is the part where they've
kind of screwed themselves a little bit because in order
to find a wild car you have to remember you
lost to the Bears Arizona, Arizona, You tied the Packers
and you lost, and you lost to the Carolina Panthers,
(32:35):
all those teams that now your losses are you know,
so now count end. It's tough because the Bears probably
may get a spot.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I think the NFC West, that's you know what.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I'm saying that back, you gotta hope that there's a
collapse in Chicago and now all of a sudden they
go from being I think they were five and eight,
six and eight, start three and eight or Chicago is
six and three. Right now, I'm gonna say five, and
I'm keep saying the eight, five and three.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Uh, which I think that can happen because their division,
they're gonna eat each other up there. They got you
still gonna have Detroit, Yeah, Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, like
they're all gonna play each other.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
So that should work it so so how but that's
what I'm saying, those teams in that division who are
better than you get the wild card. That is true,
and that's what that's what we got to get. That's
so you got to try to find your way in
through the back door.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
So how do they how do they find That's why
I said, I don't think it happened.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Is a very when like the next seven you gotta
go seven to one in the last eight games, or
at least six and two in the last And that's
a tough.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
That's tough, very tough.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That's just that's just you're asking a lot. And and
when you talk about this.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Team, it's like you need your big dogs to be
the big dogs and go out there and play like
you can't have flash in the pan, like oh my boy,
old Digg doing this thing.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
But he's up and down like he's too he's too
much of a roller coaster rat, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
So it's like you got to your big dogs, got
to step up and play consistently each and every week,
and you just don't see that.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
From that And that's what I was going to ask you,
all right, So.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Hold that thought, hold that thought. Let us do our
final break the show. We got to pay these bills,
and when we come back, we'll pick up what demontre
where you left off. And I do still want to
ask the question because we have asked a question about
do you think they can make a run? But also
is this where you thought the Cowboys would be at
this point in time of the season at the beginning
(34:34):
of the year. They're looking at you, but but this
is the players. Now stay right here with this will
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Capture the frameworthy holiday photos with Santana at the start.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Present that by who.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Said Santana.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
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Speaker 3 (37:22):
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Speaker 6 (37:27):
They just said Santana at the start so leave it
up to your imagination.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
How about Santa Star. There's no way, No, it's not
there's no way. There's no way that you read it.
There's no way.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Can I ask you that give me it us just
hand it over, trying to bail you out.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
No, no, no, I know, I know. I kept. I kept.
That's why I had to ride. I had to. I
tried to go with it. I didn't think Chris is.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Gonna No nobody that I don't.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I don't believe.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I don't believe you got what you got away with
one earlier.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
No, I didn't get away one ear ear earlier, was right,
I will I did. I messed up on the last
I messed up on the last one.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
It was that was by the way, monument Reality, by
the way, take a look, it's up.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
No, no hold on. So I'm a fat guy. So
let's figure this out. So which one day I messed
up on earlier?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
But it was you know what it was? It was
during the the first segment, and so players up, you know,
mess up up on that.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Last one, I said, Santana, but I knew I missed.
See I'm that type of kid that if I mess up,
I'm just going take double down. You don't have to
prove me wrong to double You don't have to. You
don't have to have to.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
If you ever feel like you're doing something wrong, just
look up at the people eyes.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
That's the problem. No, that's the problem. No, that's the problem.
But because I.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
I was like, yeah, so that's the that's the thing, guys,
you don't know crazy. If you have confidence, that's all
that matters. They didn't even know that was good. Did
the sniper did what he always doesn't come from the back?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Look, whoa, whoa, Hey, okay snipers.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
All right, man, let's oh wow. I'm going on to man.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
You did that on air? It was you you. I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. Census is going to be here early, everybody,
just so it's all right.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
You didn't got word on the back.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
You gotta worry about that right now, saying usb portest.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I hope we don't go viral for this.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
For to all my Santana Santa's.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I don't know. I don't do Chris, I don't even
know that.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Where was we going with this before? I don't even know.
I don't even know defensive line. I guess.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
This money on this d line.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
So let's just lets do for in the show, so
we talked about do we think the Cowboys what their
recent additions, have enough to make a run. But let's
take it even the step further and look back when
you guys made your predictions earlier in the summer, if
(41:00):
you got a round training camp, you know, did you
guys see the Cowboys being here at three five and
one midway through the season. I'll start yes, I'll start
with did you feel the Cowboys are going to be
at this place right here?
Speaker 6 (41:17):
Yes, they're right there on that mark I said about
what I said about eight or nine wins depending on
what was going to happen with the defense. I didn't
think the offense was gonna be doing this good. I
thought it was gonna be more evenly matched. I didn't
think it would be so lopsided. But yeah, I didn't
think it was. I didn't see playoffs like that. Okay,
(41:38):
it was too much just going into the season. It
was too many questions, Like I was really excited about
the George picking stray him come in and I was like, Okay, hey,
this is gonna give back another option. But with the
questions that were running back the question of office line
and then obviously defense, and then once Parsons was gone,
it was like, oh, yeah, they're they're they're swimming uphill
(41:59):
for me, So yeah, they're right around the mark line.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Honestly, Anthony, this when you were looking at your preseason
prediction of what the Cowboys are going to be this season,
halfway through the season, did you think that it would
look this way?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
I honestly thought that they might win about eight games
this year, just I think me and Trey was in place.
Did I expect it to look the way it has looked?
Not at all? Like you I was questioning. You know,
my biggest question all all summer in trending camp was
the ring game. Never thought that Williams was gonna come
here and turn out to be what he's turned out
(42:35):
to be. Always have faith in Dak, but just never
thought that the losses that they have accumulated, they would
accumulate them the way that they did. You know, I
thought that that literally they would beat the teams that
we expected them to beat. I thought they would win
those games. But nah, and and and like Trey said,
I did see the issues with the defense, especially after
(42:56):
Micah was gone.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
So yeah, and for me, I thought this team was
have three more victories, man, Like I thought Chicago, Carolina, Arizona.
I'm like, okay, those were marked on mine as like
those are dub you know W's, you know, Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I thought they might take that l But when I
looked at it, it.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Was just like so far, I just didn't think that
they would be where they are right now, and especially defensively.
Like I knew they lost Michael Parsons and I knew
I was gonna hurt, but the second to play, even
before the injuries to Diggs and all that stuff, it
was like, man, these guys don't communicate. You got too
many busts in the coverages, like mental mistakes, and that's
(43:34):
not something you see from a defense coach by flush like,
because the system is so it's so simple where you
could just it's one check here. It ain't like Rob
Ryan system where he got a check for every single
motion or if the guy looks this way, we're checking
it that. It's a very simple defense and these guys
just haven't been able to get a grasp on it.
And it's it's looked historically bad so far, but man,
(43:57):
they gonna make a run though bump.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
All that they gonna make a run song. They gonna
make a run man. All right, man, that does it?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Can we put them on record? Can we put pressure
on him tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
All right? So that does it for us. I'll be
what you guy say, Yes, you're here all week. I'm
all week. Tell this this is no no, no, what're
you about to say?
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Tell the fans? Oh yeah, you tell your viewers, bring
your followers.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, I thought you getting ready to say, hey, you
should be here more.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
No, no, no, I don't do that. I don't don't
do that.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
There's nothing wrong with you now. But I have created
a good seat in my show, and I don't I
don't mind coming over here with rental. But I've created
I've created a good niche and on hanging with the
boys big name and Kurt and Kurt. We got a
good thing going over there. We've got a good old thing.
(44:52):
And I want to do well. I don't want to
do well over here upstairs, Michael, like you know what,
Let's make it a truly a player's loud. Alright, So
all week. I hope that you will join us for
the rest of the week. As we get more into
the Cowboys as they prepare themselves to deal with the
(45:15):
Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
What's the last part of it?
Speaker 2 (45:25):
For Barry? For DeMont, trait for Anthony, I am Sultan
Pepper Poppy. This is the players bound to see tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
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