February 20, 2025 • 48 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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This is the.
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Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at
the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Heckma Harrison to
Montrey Moore and new he Scruggs.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It is time for the players Lounes right up in
here on a very cold day here or Texas be
like we are Barry's hometown.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Golden the mother man not ready for all this, but
the parts.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I find all the free stuff I didn't have through
the years and put it on.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
What you got, you got like four different schools. Man
knows no just three three loyal He knows no bounce
the loyalty knows freet braids up Topma May Pembroke, got
fable state on the bottom.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You my sister, My dad went to They got got
an A and M baseball coach from a man Jeff
Slas Nagga before he left for Texas.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
He has on A and M jacket right now.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So I got outs last who got I need some
new Texas to so over there so and and then
then I got a little TCU baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Sure my boy.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Hey man, it's free and it's cold, so you layer up.
That is the key to this well, one thing I
learned living in Cleveland. The key just is uh layering up.
So cowboys just to coaches came by this week here
it starts. We got to talk a little everybody. Maddy
Flues was the guyybody wanted to everybody wanted a piece.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Of flu smll. He's that guy. Here's that god.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm just saying, defensively, defensively, come on, let us get
through it.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Tried to get through trying to sell us on Mazsi
Smith did it? No whit?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Whoa tell me more? Coaches is trying to sell us
on mar Come on.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So what's what's the new scheme for young Mazie. What
are they gonna do different that hadn't been done? No, no, no,
no no no no no where no We're no where.
We're going somewhere. We're going somewhere, stay with somewhere. What
you got explained to the people. Don't know what what
could have could era fluse? What could the plan be
(02:34):
for young young Maazi?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh that them boys and got some Hopio nah boys
and got some hope, A fresh batch ol fresh batch.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Shot, passed it all out. Pas came down with some opio.
The whole crew all the time. If I came in
with the hopeing, woe, Jerry with the work got shot.
Everybody everybody got that hopeing.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And so so they're they're hoping for good things for
Mossie Smith.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
They're hoping anything they can they can get something out
of out of Mossie.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So I will say this, in my opinion, this is
the right thing to do and come out and say
everything needs to be one positive right now, Everything needs
to be positive. Like hey man, players are in the
building right now. There it's their time where they get
to be, be where they're gonna be. We talk to
guys on the phone. They're looking at tapes, point of attack,
(03:29):
you know. With the linebacker coach, I look at point
of attack. But he wants to work with the guys.
So I asked, even if you got what you need,
does the carpenter have his tools?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's where he's going. I danced around.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Everybody would dancing everybody, nobody, nobody, Hey, look, nobody was
trying to commit to nothing to nobody, you know. So yeah,
but they they they they're trying to talk to you
like Mozzie's got something. You know they got going Yeah,
so I mean barring an inspirational speech from.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Your uncle Joe Green. I don't I don't know what
they're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
But but hey, once again, in defense of the coaches,
this is what you should be saying. Don't come out
making any declarate like your boy Rob Ryan when he
come in here, saying all this little tough, tough crazy
stuff like you know, y'all. In some ways it was
gonna let it play out. But they got good things
to say about people.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Louck. I am not one of those ready to just
discount and throw Mazzi away. I'm not not.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
He's the first round pick. He's going to be here,
year three, he's going to be here. And it's another system,
but it's number three, lady. But Mazi needs help, and
friends and other people throw bodies at the position. If
you want to help. Mattyberfluse to me, heck Mayrison, Barry
Church and he scruts players line in fighte you by
(04:50):
subscrict game. You need bodies thrown at that position. The
Philadelphia Eagles showed you that when they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Get you get your best out of your defensive line,
and all the defensive lines I've played with, you had
a healthy rotation. You had a couple of guys that
are past rush specialists that'll come in there third down
we call NASCAR packages. Then you have guys that they're
special Their special ability is to hold down the four.
They can handle double teams, make sure nobody gets to
that second level, and you rotate those pieces going throughout
the season. You get the most out of the office
(05:17):
or defensive line. Now, when it comes to Mazzie Stiff,
I like the positivity.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I like, you know, feeding your players positivity, getting their
confidence in the right direction going into this offseason. And
he has played better, you know than when he first
started out. You know, he was getting tossed out the
club from that Seattle game to you know, these past
couple of games this season, he's playing I'm not gonna
say he's playing elite, but he's been playing better. So
to me, you can get you can get some more
(05:44):
out of Mizzi Smith, and I believe ebra Blouse is
the type of guy that can get the most out
of Mozzi Smith out there.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
But when you talk about you need friends in there
as well. You can't just put it all on him.
He can't be that guy. That's like, all right, Masi,
it's up to you and the crew to get things done.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Now, you gotta have somebody that can go along with them,
play those stunts with him, and that's how I think
you get the most out of a Mizzi Smith, And
hopefully that's where this defense goes into the offseason.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I don't think you're going to bring back a guy
like a The Geezooo.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
I think he might, you know, price his way out
and he get a bear contract somewhere else. But you
need somebody with that type of skill set to match
next to Mizsi Smith, in my opinion, to get the
most out of them. You just can't put it all
on him and say, Mazsi hold down the four and
make sure nobody goes up this middle, because we've seen
when that's the case, this team gets gashed.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Like, let's just be honest, okay, And we've dealt with
this being this going into our third season, and what
you said about this scheme, the third scheme for him,
they're gonna be built in excuses for Mazie. But the
truth is, and as you know, Bear's gonna come down
to where you were drafted, and if you're a first
round draft pick, the responsibility and the onus is going
to be ratcheted up times tense.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
He hasn't lived up to that, And.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I mean, and so playing better is just playing decent
and that doesn't fit the first round grade that you have, right,
and so that's unacceptable. And we've had defensive court say, okay,
he's not a two gap guy, so we can't use him.
He's gonna be a penetrate Nascar guy. Okay, he doesn't
fit that either. And so we've seen the different combinations
(07:09):
of the way that they want to use him, and
it hasn't been effective whatsoever. It to me is an
attitude adjustment that has to happen. And maybe outside of
a speech from Joe Green, you know, outside of you know,
injecting some new blood in him, outside of bringing in
players that get those competitive fires and juices going for Mazzie,
(07:29):
I don't see it being anything different. I mean, and
I understand for a coach eber Flus, he can't come
out and say, oh man, we're looking for ways to
get rid. You know, he can't do that. He has
to go who he has. But truthfully, if he's looking
at last year's tape like I'm looking at last year's tape,
he said, oh my god, we got a problem, okay,
and we have to find a way even rotationally, to
(07:51):
get in guys that at least can get Mazi's attention.
Because even when you bought in a Linvall Joseph, he
wasn't even in enough shape to push for the star position.
He wasn't either, So you bought in guys like Carlos
Watkins that came in later that gave you some some
pushing and filled in minutes. But still these are seedless
guys at this point in time in their careers, and
(08:13):
you can't be expecting to play an A list guy
and Mozzie Smith and allow him to fail continuously because
of where you're drafted him. And that's what we've been
living and dying with on Sundays with him.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
So I think for Cowboy fans, it's time to just
make sure this will not be Warren Sap, because Maddie
reflues who loves a three technique. This is not This
ain't war Sapped, This won't be Joe Green, this won't
be John Ramley. He's not that guy. He will not
be Russell Maryland. That's not what Mosie Smith is going
(08:45):
to be. He's going to be a part of the group,
as you talked about it here, part of a rotation.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You know, if he's thinking of Jackson five, he's Tito.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
It had guitars, smile, somebody else got hes got to
be Jane.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
He just gonna be Keito.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And if he's Tito a part of a rotation that works,
and yeah, he had a first round grade and he
could just make some contributions, then that's.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
What you should realistically expect.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
But don't look for him to be the next Pro
Bowl player that that Will Smith draft. I mean Will Will,
but Clay drafted and that's that's okay. I can live
with that. Can you just be a contributor on Sundays,
a part of a bigger rotation that works. He will
not be Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Of the Eagles. Okay, that's all right. Can you be
a junior Vince Wilford? Maybe that could help.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That could help, But but I just think it's it's
time to just say, hey, man, in the third system,
maybe everybody goes, look, man, you go down the list.
I tell your body, go go go back and look
at any draft class from four years ago. Half these
dudes don't make it. Half of them, A good quarter.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Of them do.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But it's just that way. And when you get he
can still be a contributory. That's my thing. He can
still be a contributory here.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I just feel like when you get it wrong in
the first round, because those guys are the ones that
you are saying off the bus guys they have to
they have to.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They have to play because of the way that they're paid.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And when you the last two years, you've reached on picks,
and those picks have cost you production wise. If you
look around the other thirty one teams, their first rounders
are typically day one guys. They're playing, they're producing, whether
you know. If they're not, that's when you start to
get the whispers of bus guy's not working out, we're
looking at other places.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And especially when you get to the third year.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
After this year, there's gonna be no more discussion, y'all know,
come on now, that's fine, this is it, This is
it okay. And if you can't and if you're saying
you're tito, if Tito fifth round. Tito's a sixth round guy,
all right, Tito ain't.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
The first round guy. It is. We're living we're living
in it right now. Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
A guy you covered in high school who's a really
good player, Solomon Thomas. I was just having a conversation
with something about Tolomon Thomas the other day and it's like,
you know what, man, you remember Solomon Thomas coming out
of all American players. Stanford was number two three pick
in the draft. Never that guy. He's still in the league,
played with the Jets last year. Still he's a good player.
(11:22):
He's Tito, part of rotation. It can happen.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But he found he found a niche he found what
it was that was going to keep him in the NFL.
Have we found that? Has Mazzi found that? Is he
that run stuffer? Is he the guy that presents pressure
in the passing game? Which one is it? Because I
didn't found that yet. I love I love that you
asked a question. This is the job of this coaching staff.
(11:48):
Figure it out.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
And when you look at Flus's defenses, even when he
was here in Dallas to Indianapolis to Chicago, his defense,
especially the fronts, have always been big movement fronts like
gash and penetration. We're gonna run stunts to where that
defensive tackle got to cross the face and.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
A linebacker scrape over top of them.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Do we think that's in Mozzie's game to be able
to cross gaps and go from my responsibilities to.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
B gap and two gaps?
Speaker 8 (12:11):
You.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't believe. So nothing. And that's the thing that
kind of worries me. I don't believe.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
He's the he's that type of player where he can
do a lot of movement and a lot of penetration.
I think he's better suited as a guy that's let
me hunker down, make sure these guys don't get to
the second level and use my strength and if the
play comes to me, I can make it. But I
don't think he's a guy that, okay, let me two
gap here, ab oh, he went to a gap, let
me shit and make the play.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
I don't see that because when we talked about Afflusi's defense,
he comes from a marinelly tree.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So it's always about loafing running to the football eleven guys.
It's not just one guy. Do we see Mizzie Smith
is being that hustler, that guy that you penetrates rundown
You don't.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I don't see that.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And so therefore, if that is the case, free agency. Okay,
salary caps going on, I could be wrong. Move up
twenty two minimum twenty two million dollars. So hello free agency.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
But you just asked, you just asked the question.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
You just we're talking about osa Osa Diggi ju and
and look his Here's what I think would would have
made the eyes on on Mazi a little bit different
if if you had a guy that was getting that production,
a guy that was tops in the league at the
three that he's.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
A hustlers, hustler.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
But but at this point, you know, has he priced
himself out when we start talking about what we look
at for him? And in ibra Flus's defense, because these
two guys are going to play off of each other,
and I think even at one A and one B,
I don't have one one guy between both of them
that I can say I can't I can't do it
out either.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I can't do it out either one of them.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
This is our scheme is going to be generated around
him as a player.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
And I mean we got we got prooved throughout the league.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
We got guys like Chris Jones, we got the first Buckner's,
we got come on out. We got guys in the
league that we can look at them that are making
that kind of money, that are having that kind of
impact that we don't have here.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So you just said it, then he's not. We just
said one. Neither one, neither one. Neither one, neither one.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Right from listen listening to what you just said, breaking
it down, Heck, Maharson, neither were Diggie zooa Amasi Smith
or Worth you saying hey man, let's get you a
long term deal, and we think you're going to be
the piece, and that's.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Get I correct, Yeah for sure. Okay, so because I.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Think the Chrispian what was it twenty four mili for
a defensive tackle franchise tag, so it's going to.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Be twenty plus so and.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
When you do so, when you do the franchise tag,
that money counts. That that you know right there counts.
Whereas if you signed an Osa Diggi zero to a
longer term, you can take the money down real lod
in year one, spread it out. So you franchise a guy,
you better be really real sure because that money's gonna
(15:07):
get tied up. So either you want to do a
long term deal with Osa most likely going to Leton,
go yeah, and you don't have a contract right now
for Michael Parsons that's in place. So there are guys
that you use the tag on, okay, because it gives you.
It gives you time and leeway to sign an extension.
(15:28):
And then there are guys that you just don't waste
your time on giving the tag.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
We gave the was it Pollard a couple of years ago.
He hurried up to get here to sign it in
the paper. Let me sign it in right if you tag?
If you tag Osa, Osa will wherever he's vacationing right
now now Harry back to sign the tag.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I mean I'm looking at the tag on another Cincinnati
with t Higgins right now. I mean it's one of
those situations you're like, man, that's that's cold blooded for Cincinnati.
The tag a guy that's already been showing you has
the time, proof of consistency that you want in a player,
and you're gonna tag him again and not allow him
to go out there and get the big money. I'm
just I'm tired of reaching on players. Basically, I'm tired
(16:13):
of the tagger. It's just for tax sake. If there
ain't nobody out there to tag keep get tagged, then.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Okay, there's no tag for a Diggie Zoo.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No, I would yeam with that. Yeah, I'll spreading that
money out. So therein lies the next step to me,
it's free agency. If you are at this point in time,
you've made the hire of a head coach that the
fan base to not get excited about. Okay, this is
not where the Chargers hired Jim Harbaugh, and.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Folks out there are like, okay, okay, super Bowl coach.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
It's the first time head coach and people were like,
well he was already here in the building with So
if you're going to help him, Brian Schottenheimer and Maddie
Refleuch your defense GC, and you wanted to get your
fans excited, you need to go to the market and
bring people in. Yeah, you need you need to You
need to say, look, we're serious and this is what
we're trying to do to help our staff. Stop trying
to duct tape it. Stop going over here to the
(17:09):
discount stores and the bargain being and seeing what's on clearance?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Go out here free agency first week and go go
sign something.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
If what was the last time the boys made a
big time.
Speaker 9 (17:21):
The car, big car? If that, if that's the last
like I can think of, like Hooker and he came Thursday.
I'm just locking load.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I'm reaching to forgive me saying it is not there.
It is not there, and I don't I don't want
to lie to myself again to think that they are.
And when you say, you know free agency starts, you
can't go to the bargain the tag says you don't
have any other choice but to go bargain shopping. We're
(17:55):
setting We've set ourselves up for another year where the
draft is imperative. We can't miss we can't miss on
the first round again. We can't bring in another guy
that's not going to give us a production. We can't
miss on the second round. Got our third and by
the way, we don't have a forward.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
But you got Bingo. You know what, you know what
it's like their version of t Higgins.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Friend.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, no, let's get it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
We got to figure this camp out. Man's let's get it. Kid.
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I've never had that situation happened in Dallas. Right, shuffle
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Do we do it? Send me pictures from cart like
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Speaker 3 (22:06):
Back to the cold man, can't do it again, never again.
So my wife is always she's always telling me about
Achron and how you know Akron, Ohio, how cold it
is and all this is nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I'm like, what go back, right, I lived in Cleveland.
It's colder right right, But but can't do it.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I mean, you know, there's when you watch you remember
you ain't seen the salt truck in forever, and remember
the little the people who want the dudes who lived
in the neighborhood had a little plow up front, and
it's yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's the stuff.
But no, this is it's she's you know, it's worse
up there. But still it's a choice like I made
when the Browns moved.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So especially when it's colder and there ain't like stuff
to do. I can see if it was cold and
you can.
Speaker 12 (22:51):
Ski, you you could do other like's just like, yeah,
you don't like the cold.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But I was like, because it's stuff to do, stuff
to do, but what it is cold enough snowboarding with
the kids?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, sorry, stuff to do.
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Man be cold and cold Manhattan, Kansas, ain't nothing to do.
Ain't then some brisket or something out there. Ain't ain't
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I thought you said, bro Let me tell you.
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I told my child.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
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Speaker 3 (23:49):
Food that have is the food I could buy that
little call hall that I can take on. Yeah, because
they got their ground, because they got their own cows,
so they their their ground beef. They were all taking
home with you and cook it up. But in town
nothing restaurants. She ain't gained no freshman fifteen.
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On the other side on that they got old bay
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real quick.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Actually, that's that's how much what it is in all
these campuses.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yes, damn yeah no, if you athlete, boy, that beating good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Man, you told me that TC was talking to your
son over there. Heard they had crab limbs over there too. Man,
come on, they tonny let me eat. One day after steak,
I was like, who's transferring from here?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Play State?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Be sitting at me, coach be kicking me. Yeah, I
think i'mna play that seventh year coach. I'm applied.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
And they were selling all those brothers from the hood.
Look y'all eating.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Who must take.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Way too mistake because anybody ever hast we'll bring it back.
We're putting all different talking about Man, you don't have
to take that to your room. You can always come
back against. I said, I'm gonna do that too. I'm
(25:32):
leaving with something, leaving with.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Cowboy.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Assistant coaches met with the media this week and uh
and then it's being the case. The form offensive line
coach of Wildcats is now down here said they plan
to be a physical offensive line. Clayton Adams is the
offensive coordinator former offensive lind head coach over the Arizona
They are they are talking about preaching being a physical
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football team up front. They are going to be committed
to running the ball. I know it's what it sounds like,
but you know what, Church, it was something we never
heard or saw Mike McCarthy do this commitment to run
the football. Let's be physical upfront. They realize this is
division right now. You better control the line. If you
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don't control the line against Philadelphia and Washington, you're in trouble.
You got to win this division. If you forget trying
to talk Super Bowl you how do you win this division?
Speaker 13 (26:31):
Now?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
With these two teams here, and we know what these
two teams are doing. They're trying to play in the trenches,
and the Cowboys have to meet the challenge.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So when I heard that, at least to me, that
was a good idea. I know it's what you're saying
right now, you need to see actions, But at least
I like what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And they're saying this is coming from Schottenheimer, and they're
all buying into it. They all got the hopium shot.
Everybody out here drinking the kool aid and they saying it,
and doogg on it. If you're a Cowboy fan to be,
that's that's good. Now we're talking about the tools. I
don't know about the tools right now. They had to
ford a run game all on the offensive line. But
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at least you're talking about now, go go hey, Will
McLay free once again, friend, let's go fill it. Let's
go fill out. But at least you have a vision.
Starts with a vision. Okay, at least we have a vision.
We want to be physical. Okay, we want to we
want to win the trenches. Now how do you do it?
That's the next thing. But at least you have the
vision of what it is you want to be man.
(27:34):
All these all these guys are saying the right things.
You see Flues talking about we getting Masie right. Yeah,
you know you got coming down from shot night. When
we're going to run the football. We're going to be
a physical team. And we saw teams Cowboys teams in
the past when they're physical. You know, that's the best
teams that you have.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
But we've heard the same thing from mister Mike McCarthy
when he was talking about we're gonna run the football,
and we did the exact opposite thing.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So I hear a lot like you said words. You know,
they can play a little bit here.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I gotta see these actions because when you look into
this division, the Eagles front seven offensively and.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Defensively outstage is good. Team is bad.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
They killing people, They killing Washington. You still got the
Bama boys up there.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
DQ.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
He's gonna reload, Yeah, killing Dady killing people. Gotta find
a way to be physical. But for me, we hear
this physical talk all the time. I just don't think
this team will be patient enough to ride the run.
But you at least have to recognize it. You do,
you know, and at the first until you got it
that you got a problem, right before you had what
was you do?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Twelve step? Think got first thing that you got a problem.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
But yeah, you got a sixty million dollar quarterback and
you gotta what thirty five thirty eight million dollar wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I don't think this team is gonna be patient enough
to sit there.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Let's run, run, run, and you know, play action here
and there. I don't see this team being that. How okay,
how do you help that sixty million dollars? Oh that's
an I'm with you one hundred percent. You run the football,
I'm with you one hundred percent. Because the last coach
wasn't really trying to do that. At least this coach
recognizes and at least he says he does. Yeah, well,
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but what is Shoddy's history been?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
He's done that?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I mean so, so at least I know I'm not
lying to me. He's at least done it. He's at
least admitted he wanted to do it. You know, you
talk to guy like lt wearing the ball, so you
could be committed to it, you know, when it's happening,
when it's ten carries for twenty one yards, will will
you be committed to it?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But that was Mike though Mike was Mike was always
that way. Yeah, I'm going to the past. Will you
go back to it? Like? Man, it's run ain't working,
it's on you four. I don't know, so.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
I am, I am, I'm look, here's at that. I
don't that sounds like bulljob to me. Okay, let's just
let's just call it right and if we're gonna know
what okay, because here we here's the deal. We we
we arrived back to this. We'll ride back to the
same place each and every year. What we're telling ourselves
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we got to be physical clouded us. And then we
get out there on Sunday and da'strowing the ball forty times.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
The different regime. No, it's the big regime. Okay, okay,
make okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
But but.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Just say our God, bron make make But you know,
I mean you panting out the bar.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
He wanted out the problem. But where's the solution.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
And if you're telling me that ric o' dadel in
some ways something, come on, let's go back to what
we have in.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
The cupboard, because we can't deviate from what we have.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
If you're telling me Tyler goydon okay, if you mentioned
he was mentioned, Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So here's a positive guidance. Yes, no, you go ahead.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
All I'm saying is when you point out about Philadelphia,
when you point out about the command, you know what
you have coming, all right, And the best way to
nullify that is to be physical. You can't play for
Nest Football against Philly anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
They're not there. They are built to bruise, all right.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And if you don't run the ball, if you can't
run the ball, I eat the super Bowl in Kansas City,
what do they do? They are going to make life
hell for you and your quarterback that you're paying all
this money to. He's not gonna be successful when Dak
stands up and say, oh.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
We're close, We're right there. You know we're right there.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
All those guys, I've had a lot of time, proof
and consistency of beating them, Dak. Times changed and you
saw it with your own eyes. Times have changed. And
if you can't fix your offensive line, you have more
problems coming to you than you know that it's going
to start up front.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Heckma, I love the passion. I love the passion, and
I like the fact that you are skeptical. You should
be sca because we hear we've been told a lot
around Okay, sold the whole lot with.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
That good friend, electorro McNeil says, Hall of Fame speaker.
You must see things as they are, which is what
I think they're doing. We don't run the ball, see
things as you think they are. We want to be
a physical football team. We want to commit to run
and then make them the way you see them.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
These are the steps that you must do, because.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
We all know order for you to try to at
least try to compete in this division, you're gonna have
to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
There's still steps to be taken.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I for one, am not sold on what they bringing
back last year's group at all.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
There needs to be stuff done.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I did ask the running back coach, I mean the
offensive line coach about DJ Giddings and running back of case,
because there's a bunch of running backs available deep.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Learn tech gotta run back. Caroline to run back. He
was too hurt.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I went him playing. Actually wasn't at K State Oklahoma
State game last year. Yes, and the kid from K
State I played, Oli Gordon.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah he's probably hurt last year.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
But but but still there's there are people in Arizona State. Guy,
you know that they're scatter. There are players there. They
at least recognized. And that to me is where I
don't think Mike gave us. I think Mike lip serviced it.
But then you just go back to his career. He
never ran the ball. It wasn't what he did. Shody
at least has all right. We got to get a
(33:29):
break in here, and boy, I tell you you get
too hard.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
What I'm saying no positive, Heck, I'm still here.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah, the Eagle's broken hurts because of that year.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Broke.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Broke said that man, I might need a little resuscitation
from the Eagles winning the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
That might be what it is. Thank you for pointing
that out.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
You did say NFC East team against Kansas City super Bowl.
You did say to beginning, but.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You picked your Maine. But it was mic.
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Ain't at all. It's a cod world cold rooted.
Speaker 15 (38:14):
Up.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You know, I forgot what man showed up with the
rooted shirt.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Boy had to root it one shirt on the rudy
shirt on man, Lord, please tell me I say shot,
I'm shiny.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Please don't be like the last coaches out here with
these shirts and slogan.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
It's okay.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
So that's like a you gotta come up with a slogan,
deal man.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Because everybody Garrett had his what was fight Willian's technically
garretts the fight was the program that was a pro
then different iteration with the seventeen inches one Yeah, then
it was all little different things all the time. You know,
get after that, you know the guato. Then Mike had
(39:06):
his car baby car baby omnia and rooted. What's that
all resulted? And not not a darn thing. I ain't
gonna Okay, don't resonate them unless you got one. It
susists super old bound. I mean stop it. Just just
put on the Cowboys shirt and go.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
That's it. That's it. Are you good? Dear shot? You
don't put anything out there, Just get right the team
to work.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Don't come with rooted, don't give something else planet out
at all.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
This last dance, the last shirt up.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
See that's what that's when it happened. That's what the positivity.
You see what I'm saying every way out too long? Man,
See what I'm saying every time I come in? Now
you just laughing me out the door. Remember that rooty shirt?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Where is that? Oh? You one got you?
Speaker 13 (40:07):
You like.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Cold code? Heck? How you know that? So they sold
to the public, said they sold to them. I got
a rooted shirt, y'all, ain't get a rooted shirt? What hey?
Man to to endorse? Hey?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
You paid no free to endorse to you know, be
all in another one. That's another one.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Then that didn't jive. You know, it happened. They had
this Cleveland games like this is it?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Oh you really? Then all showed up after the Cleveland
and the didn't have tackles.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
We said, good, good, but they don't know tackles, no tackles.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
But yeah, yeah. By the way, Cowboy Nation was a
bit harsh on Lawrence Taylor. Oh well, t sunny.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Why do they get salt yet, said Michael Parsons less
less podcasts. We're playing went at the l TS personal
issues while he was playing because we miss games. Did
miss miss miss many games because because he wasn't available.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
He was.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
You know that's going he was in Aspen word l T.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Like I said, man out of pot, cowboy cowboy name.
We're not trying to hear Lawrence Taylor criticized Michael Parsons
about not playing, you know, about about games, considering that
he had a lot of substitutes issues during his time.
They did not want to hear that from him.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, you know, and that there are ways, Look, there
really are ways to get through. And I think Lawrence
Taylor is one of those players that generationally you could
come back to is dominant, you know, off.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
The off the field.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Obviously those are documented, you can come back to those.
But times have changed so much, man, from from the
from the old school guys to the new school guys,
and a lot of guys's they don't listen to it.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's like they don't they don't care.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
About that, especially when they hear about some of the
off the field things. But there's something to be learned
in this whole split between generations because I think as
players now you see guys controlling their own narratives.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It's more about it. It's more than just the field now, which.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Branding is, branding is all those other things they go
into it. And when I look at Michael Parsons, truly, man,
he probably grew up in an everywhere DeMarcus Ware was
the guys that he's watching, guys like that, right and
exactly so those are the guys that can speak to
him that he would understand directly as players. And I
think when he hears that from Lawrence Taylor's like, you
(43:09):
don't get it, you don't understand. But what I love
about Michael is we're not hearing about off the field
issues from him, all right, but we do want to play.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
To go up to activity thank god, there's no authority. Yeah,
so I was.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
I was talking to research at least and Milly yesterday.
She brought up a very good point about gen Z.
She's just now they have more choices than ever. And
if you're talking about trying to build a brand, you're
talking about just what you can do outside of football.
A player of Michael Parson's talent has the more choices,
and so he's gone the podcasting round.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Travis Kelsey has gone the podcasting you got I'm on
Saint Brown. There's a lot of when how he long played.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
You're too young to remember this, but you remember how
we long used him off day to tape inside the
NFL segments on HBO as he was getting ready for
his career before Greg Olsen ended up leaving. Greg Olsen
went into the television booth to work on things. So
and all three were good players. Michael Parsons is still
playing at a Pro Bowl level. Okay, he was hurting
(44:19):
miss games this year, but he operated at almost say
all pro level, but made the Pro Bowl in miss
numerous games. I am not that concerned about it as
other people are, as Lawrence Taylor is. If the guy
was not producing then maybe you'd say something, we're not
(44:39):
talking about a guy like Mazzie Smith, where you're saying, okay,
we use his pick on you.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
He gab, but where are you at?
Speaker 3 (44:44):
That's not Michael Parsons is a difference maker on the
football field.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Overall, the team just needs to win more games.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
But I don't look at Michael Parlan saying you know what,
Oh my gosh, you're the problem. Or if Michael stopped
doing his podcas has all of a sudden, his game
would go ten more levels.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
I don't know I've asked you this, but Barry, did
you have any mentors when you were in the league,
like guys that you know, professional league that were either
playing or out of the league that you talked to
to just deal with maybe personal financial.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Oh yeah, you got so.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
For me, it was Terrence Newman when I first got here,
and the guy Gerald Senseiball.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Who we talk about all the time, and.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
And those guys back when I first got in it
was kind of tunnel vision football like it was. It
was right before kind of social media blew up and
guys started doing this brand stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
You didn't have.
Speaker 6 (45:33):
Everything with football football, and that's what they helped me,
you know, sharpen my craft and get better at I
wish I had a you know, a guy. I was like,
you need to think thing about this outside of the
ball or that, or you know how Greg Olsen got
into it.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
That would be you know, that would be pretty dope
in my opinion.
Speaker 6 (45:48):
And Michael Parsons is taking advantage of it because he
knows NFL.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
And also make sure you understand what is the pecking
order when you're doing it. Michael Parsons is the first
round draft by the team, who the owner loves, who
is playing a position where he's on TV a lot
because he's getting to the Quarterbrock yep. So you can
do that. It's kind of hard to do that if
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you are Austin Richards and you're a backup tackle or
brock Hoffman at the backup center. You have to be
in a position to do this. To take advantage of
some of these things. I mean, God bless Jason Kelsey.
The him doing the podcast is really a lot because
of his brother. Here's Travis dating homegirl and so now
touch it down.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
You get to ride up in here too.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
But how many offensive centers in the NFL are able
to go out here and do chunky super commercials and
do podcasts like that. So things have to align. You've
got to have the choices and be in the right position.
So anyway, it is what it is. But you know
what the cowboy assistant coaches everybody right now is take
this with you cowboysman. They are in a line with
(46:53):
what the head coach is saying. The head coaches hire
people who believe in his vision and they're going to
try to execute it.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Let us see now to get ready for the combine.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
It starts to happen as you get ready for free agency.
What they do to help the coach and the coaching staff.
And that comes from.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Gerald Wayne Jones, President, general manager of the team. Maherrison positive,
he positive.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Next week, come on, we'll go see the coaches. The
coach is gonna give some of that.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
We're gonna be right. We're gonna be singing the Doobie Brothers.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Keep you run, don't do that, can't keep you run here,
you gonna start running, that's me.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Come on, heck, that's sure.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Strut from Chris Josh, Let's do it.
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Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at
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Montrey Moore and new he Scruggs.
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It is time for the players Lounes right up in
here on a very cold day here or Texas be
like we are Barry's hometown.
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Golden the mother man not ready for all this, but
the parts.
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I find all the free stuff I didn't have through
the years and put it on.
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What you got, you got like four different schools. Man
knows no just three three loyal He knows no bounce
the loyalty knows freet braids up Topma May Pembroke, got
fable state on the bottom.
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You my sister, My dad went to They got got
an A and M baseball coach from a man Jeff
Slas Nagga before he left for Texas.
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He has on A and M jacket right now.
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So I got outs last who got I need some
new Texas to so over there so and and then
then I got a little TCU baseball.
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Hey man, it's free and it's cold, so you layer up.
That is the key to this well, one thing I
learned living in Cleveland. The key just is uh layering up.
So cowboys just to coaches came by this week here
it starts. We got to talk a little everybody. Maddy
Flues was the guyybody wanted to everybody wanted a piece.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Of flu smll. He's that guy. Here's that god.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm just saying, defensively, defensively, come on, let us get
through it.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Tried to get through trying to sell us on Mazsi
Smith did it? No whit?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Whoa tell me more? Coaches is trying to sell us
on mar Come on.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So what's what's the new scheme for young Mazie. What
are they gonna do different that hadn't been done? No, no, no,
no no no no no where no We're no where.
We're going somewhere. We're going somewhere, stay with somewhere. What
you got explained to the people. Don't know what what
could have could era fluse? What could the plan be
(02:34):
for young young Maazi?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh that them boys and got some Hopio nah boys
and got some hope, A fresh batch ol fresh batch.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Shot, passed it all out. Pas came down with some opio.
The whole crew all the time. If I came in
with the hopeing, woe, Jerry with the work got shot.
Everybody everybody got that hopeing.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And so so they're they're hoping for good things for
Mossie Smith.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
They're hoping anything they can they can get something out
of out of Mossie.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So I will say this, in my opinion, this is
the right thing to do and come out and say
everything needs to be one positive right now, Everything needs
to be positive. Like hey man, players are in the
building right now. There it's their time where they get
to be, be where they're gonna be. We talk to
guys on the phone. They're looking at tapes, point of attack,
(03:29):
you know. With the linebacker coach, I look at point
of attack. But he wants to work with the guys.
So I asked, even if you got what you need,
does the carpenter have his tools?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's where he's going. I danced around.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Everybody would dancing everybody, nobody, nobody, Hey, look, nobody was
trying to commit to nothing to nobody, you know. So yeah,
but they they they they're trying to talk to you
like Mozzie's got something. You know they got going Yeah,
so I mean barring an inspirational speech from.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Your uncle Joe Green. I don't I don't know what
they're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
But but hey, once again, in defense of the coaches,
this is what you should be saying. Don't come out
making any declarate like your boy Rob Ryan when he
come in here, saying all this little tough, tough crazy
stuff like you know, y'all. In some ways it was
gonna let it play out. But they got good things
to say about people.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Louck. I am not one of those ready to just
discount and throw Mazzi away. I'm not not.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
He's the first round pick. He's going to be here,
year three, he's going to be here. And it's another system,
but it's number three, lady. But Mazi needs help, and
friends and other people throw bodies at the position. If
you want to help. Mattyberfluse to me, heck Mayrison, Barry
Church and he scruts players line in fighte you by
(04:50):
subscrict game. You need bodies thrown at that position. The
Philadelphia Eagles showed you that when they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Get you get your best out of your defensive line,
and all the defensive lines I've played with, you had
a healthy rotation. You had a couple of guys that
are past rush specialists that'll come in there third down
we call NASCAR packages. Then you have guys that they're
special Their special ability is to hold down the four.
They can handle double teams, make sure nobody gets to
that second level, and you rotate those pieces going throughout
the season. You get the most out of the office
(05:17):
or defensive line. Now, when it comes to Mazzie Stiff,
I like the positivity.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I like, you know, feeding your players positivity, getting their
confidence in the right direction going into this offseason. And
he has played better, you know than when he first
started out. You know, he was getting tossed out the
club from that Seattle game to you know, these past
couple of games this season, he's playing I'm not gonna
say he's playing elite, but he's been playing better. So
to me, you can get you can get some more
(05:44):
out of Mizzi Smith, and I believe ebra Blouse is
the type of guy that can get the most out
of Mozzi Smith out there.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
But when you talk about you need friends in there
as well. You can't just put it all on him.
He can't be that guy. That's like, all right, Masi,
it's up to you and the crew to get things done.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Now, you gotta have somebody that can go along with them,
play those stunts with him, and that's how I think
you get the most out of a Mizzi Smith, And
hopefully that's where this defense goes into the offseason.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I don't think you're going to bring back a guy
like a The Geezooo.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
I think he might, you know, price his way out
and he get a bear contract somewhere else. But you
need somebody with that type of skill set to match
next to Mizsi Smith, in my opinion, to get the
most out of them. You just can't put it all
on him and say, Mazsi hold down the four and
make sure nobody goes up this middle, because we've seen
when that's the case, this team gets gashed.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Like, let's just be honest, okay, And we've dealt with
this being this going into our third season, and what
you said about this scheme, the third scheme for him,
they're gonna be built in excuses for Mazie. But the
truth is, and as you know, Bear's gonna come down
to where you were drafted, and if you're a first
round draft pick, the responsibility and the onus is going
to be ratcheted up times tense.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
He hasn't lived up to that, And.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I mean, and so playing better is just playing decent
and that doesn't fit the first round grade that you have, right,
and so that's unacceptable. And we've had defensive court say, okay,
he's not a two gap guy, so we can't use him.
He's gonna be a penetrate Nascar guy. Okay, he doesn't
fit that either. And so we've seen the different combinations
(07:09):
of the way that they want to use him, and
it hasn't been effective whatsoever. It to me is an
attitude adjustment that has to happen. And maybe outside of
a speech from Joe Green, you know, outside of you know,
injecting some new blood in him, outside of bringing in
players that get those competitive fires and juices going for Mazzie,
(07:29):
I don't see it being anything different. I mean, and
I understand for a coach eber Flus, he can't come
out and say, oh man, we're looking for ways to
get rid. You know, he can't do that. He has
to go who he has. But truthfully, if he's looking
at last year's tape like I'm looking at last year's tape,
he said, oh my god, we got a problem, okay,
and we have to find a way even rotationally, to
(07:51):
get in guys that at least can get Mazi's attention.
Because even when you bought in a Linvall Joseph, he
wasn't even in enough shape to push for the star position.
He wasn't either, So you bought in guys like Carlos
Watkins that came in later that gave you some some
pushing and filled in minutes. But still these are seedless
guys at this point in time in their careers, and
(08:13):
you can't be expecting to play an A list guy
and Mozzie Smith and allow him to fail continuously because
of where you're drafted him. And that's what we've been
living and dying with on Sundays with him.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
So I think for Cowboy fans, it's time to just
make sure this will not be Warren Sap, because Maddie
reflues who loves a three technique. This is not This
ain't war Sapped, This won't be Joe Green, this won't
be John Ramley. He's not that guy. He will not
be Russell Maryland. That's not what Mosie Smith is going
(08:45):
to be. He's going to be a part of the group,
as you talked about it here, part of a rotation.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You know, if he's thinking of Jackson five, he's Tito.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
It had guitars, smile, somebody else got hes got to
be Jane.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
He just gonna be Keito.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And if he's Tito a part of a rotation that works,
and yeah, he had a first round grade and he
could just make some contributions, then that's.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
What you should realistically expect.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
But don't look for him to be the next Pro
Bowl player that that Will Smith draft. I mean Will Will,
but Clay drafted and that's that's okay. I can live
with that. Can you just be a contributor on Sundays,
a part of a bigger rotation that works. He will
not be Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Of the Eagles. Okay, that's all right. Can you be
a junior Vince Wilford? Maybe that could help.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That could help, But but I just think it's it's
time to just say, hey, man, in the third system,
maybe everybody goes, look, man, you go down the list.
I tell your body, go go go back and look
at any draft class from four years ago. Half these
dudes don't make it. Half of them, A good quarter.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Of them do.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But it's just that way. And when you get he
can still be a contributory. That's my thing. He can
still be a contributory here.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I just feel like when you get it wrong in
the first round, because those guys are the ones that
you are saying off the bus guys they have to
they have to.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They have to play because of the way that they're paid.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And when you the last two years, you've reached on picks,
and those picks have cost you production wise. If you
look around the other thirty one teams, their first rounders
are typically day one guys. They're playing, they're producing, whether
you know. If they're not, that's when you start to
get the whispers of bus guy's not working out, we're
looking at other places.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And especially when you get to the third year.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
After this year, there's gonna be no more discussion, y'all know,
come on now, that's fine, this is it, This is
it okay. And if you can't and if you're saying
you're tito, if Tito fifth round. Tito's a sixth round guy,
all right, Tito ain't.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
The first round guy. It is. We're living we're living
in it right now. Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
A guy you covered in high school who's a really
good player, Solomon Thomas. I was just having a conversation
with something about Tolomon Thomas the other day and it's like,
you know what, man, you remember Solomon Thomas coming out
of all American players. Stanford was number two three pick
in the draft. Never that guy. He's still in the league,
played with the Jets last year. Still he's a good player.
(11:22):
He's Tito, part of rotation. It can happen.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But he found he found a niche he found what
it was that was going to keep him in the NFL.
Have we found that? Has Mazzi found that? Is he
that run stuffer? Is he the guy that presents pressure
in the passing game? Which one is it? Because I
didn't found that yet. I love I love that you
asked a question. This is the job of this coaching staff.
(11:48):
Figure it out.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
And when you look at Flus's defenses, even when he
was here in Dallas to Indianapolis to Chicago, his defense,
especially the fronts, have always been big movement fronts like
gash and penetration. We're gonna run stunts to where that
defensive tackle got to cross the face and.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
A linebacker scrape over top of them.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Do we think that's in Mozzie's game to be able
to cross gaps and go from my responsibilities to.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
B gap and two gaps?
Speaker 8 (12:11):
You.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't believe. So nothing. And that's the thing that
kind of worries me. I don't believe.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
He's the he's that type of player where he can
do a lot of movement and a lot of penetration.
I think he's better suited as a guy that's let
me hunker down, make sure these guys don't get to
the second level and use my strength and if the
play comes to me, I can make it. But I
don't think he's a guy that, okay, let me two
gap here, ab oh, he went to a gap, let
me shit and make the play.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
I don't see that because when we talked about Afflusi's defense,
he comes from a marinelly tree.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So it's always about loafing running to the football eleven guys.
It's not just one guy. Do we see Mizzie Smith
is being that hustler, that guy that you penetrates rundown
You don't.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I don't see that.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And so therefore, if that is the case, free agency. Okay,
salary caps going on, I could be wrong. Move up
twenty two minimum twenty two million dollars. So hello free agency.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
But you just asked, you just asked the question.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
You just we're talking about osa Osa Diggi ju and
and look his Here's what I think would would have
made the eyes on on Mazi a little bit different
if if you had a guy that was getting that production,
a guy that was tops in the league at the
three that he's.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
A hustlers, hustler.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
But but at this point, you know, has he priced
himself out when we start talking about what we look
at for him? And in ibra Flus's defense, because these
two guys are going to play off of each other,
and I think even at one A and one B,
I don't have one one guy between both of them
that I can say I can't I can't do it
out either.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I can't do it out either one of them.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
This is our scheme is going to be generated around
him as a player.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
And I mean we got we got prooved throughout the league.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
We got guys like Chris Jones, we got the first Buckner's,
we got come on out. We got guys in the
league that we can look at them that are making
that kind of money, that are having that kind of
impact that we don't have here.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So you just said it, then he's not. We just
said one. Neither one, neither one. Neither one, neither one.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Right from listen listening to what you just said, breaking
it down, Heck, Maharson, neither were Diggie zooa Amasi Smith
or Worth you saying hey man, let's get you a
long term deal, and we think you're going to be
the piece, and that's.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Get I correct, Yeah for sure. Okay, so because I.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Think the Chrispian what was it twenty four mili for
a defensive tackle franchise tag, so it's going to.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Be twenty plus so and.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
When you do so, when you do the franchise tag,
that money counts. That that you know right there counts.
Whereas if you signed an Osa Diggi zero to a
longer term, you can take the money down real lod
in year one, spread it out. So you franchise a guy,
you better be really real sure because that money's gonna
(15:07):
get tied up. So either you want to do a
long term deal with Osa most likely going to Leton,
go yeah, and you don't have a contract right now
for Michael Parsons that's in place. So there are guys
that you use the tag on, okay, because it gives you.
It gives you time and leeway to sign an extension.
(15:28):
And then there are guys that you just don't waste
your time on giving the tag.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
We gave the was it Pollard a couple of years ago.
He hurried up to get here to sign it in
the paper. Let me sign it in right if you tag?
If you tag Osa, Osa will wherever he's vacationing right
now now Harry back to sign the tag.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I mean I'm looking at the tag on another Cincinnati
with t Higgins right now. I mean it's one of
those situations you're like, man, that's that's cold blooded for Cincinnati.
The tag a guy that's already been showing you has
the time, proof of consistency that you want in a player,
and you're gonna tag him again and not allow him
to go out there and get the big money. I'm
just I'm tired of reaching on players. Basically, I'm tired
(16:13):
of the tagger. It's just for tax sake. If there
ain't nobody out there to tag keep get tagged, then.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Okay, there's no tag for a Diggie Zoo.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No, I would yeam with that. Yeah, I'll spreading that
money out. So therein lies the next step to me,
it's free agency. If you are at this point in time,
you've made the hire of a head coach that the
fan base to not get excited about. Okay, this is
not where the Chargers hired Jim Harbaugh, and.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Folks out there are like, okay, okay, super Bowl coach.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
It's the first time head coach and people were like,
well he was already here in the building with So
if you're going to help him, Brian Schottenheimer and Maddie
Refleuch your defense GC, and you wanted to get your
fans excited, you need to go to the market and
bring people in. Yeah, you need you need to You
need to say, look, we're serious and this is what
we're trying to do to help our staff. Stop trying
to duct tape it. Stop going over here to the
(17:09):
discount stores and the bargain being and seeing what's on clearance?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Go out here free agency first week and go go
sign something.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
If what was the last time the boys made a
big time.
Speaker 9 (17:21):
The car, big car? If that, if that's the last
like I can think of, like Hooker and he came Thursday.
I'm just locking load.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I'm reaching to forgive me saying it is not there.
It is not there, and I don't I don't want
to lie to myself again to think that they are.
And when you say, you know free agency starts, you
can't go to the bargain the tag says you don't
have any other choice but to go bargain shopping. We're
(17:55):
setting We've set ourselves up for another year where the
draft is imperative. We can't miss we can't miss on
the first round again. We can't bring in another guy
that's not going to give us a production. We can't
miss on the second round. Got our third and by
the way, we don't have a forward.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
But you got Bingo. You know what, you know what
it's like their version of t Higgins.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Friend.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, no, let's get it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
We got to figure this camp out. Man's let's get it. Kid.
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Speaker 2 (21:25):
Brother.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Hey man, hey, not for loon. It's cold. I just
look at your phone and said eighteen. I'm like, wow,
that's cold.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
That's cold. She was in single. My classes are canceled.
They oh man, that's awesome. Oh man, you see that.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah, yeah, and your car and you call it. You
have to shuffle your car out. That was the first
time I've ever had to do that, shovel a car out.
I've never had that situation happened in Dallas. Right, shuffle
your car out. Okay, she hold frozen?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Do we do it? Send me pictures from cart like
it sounds like a choice. You made a choice to
me that I can't go.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Back to the cold man, can't do it again, never again.
So my wife is always she's always telling me about
Achron and how you know Akron, Ohio, how cold it
is and all this is nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I'm like, what go back, right, I lived in Cleveland.
It's colder right right, But but can't do it.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I mean, you know, there's when you watch you remember
you ain't seen the salt truck in forever, and remember
the little the people who want the dudes who lived
in the neighborhood had a little plow up front, and
it's yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's the stuff.
But no, this is it's she's you know, it's worse
up there. But still it's a choice like I made
when the Browns moved.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So especially when it's colder and there ain't like stuff
to do. I can see if it was cold and
you can.
Speaker 12 (22:51):
Ski, you you could do other like's just like, yeah,
you don't like the cold.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But I was like, because it's stuff to do, stuff
to do, but what it is cold enough snowboarding with
the kids?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, sorry, stuff to do.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Man be cold and cold Manhattan, Kansas, ain't nothing to do.
Ain't then some brisket or something out there. Ain't ain't
no brisket out there right down and tried it they did.
I thought you said, bro Let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I told my child.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
From now on, me and Papa John's that's all we're
going to your town tidies restaurants. They telling me it's
really good, ain't Papa John can messed that up?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Bring your own season, and you know the best.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Food that have is the food I could buy that
little call hall that I can take on. Yeah, because
they got their ground, because they got their own cows,
so they their their ground beef. They were all taking
home with you and cook it up. But in town
nothing restaurants. She ain't gained no freshman fifteen.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Listen the ladies they have on the other side, on
the athletic side, they got all the obay.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
They got all the obey.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
On the other side on that they got old bay
over crabbed limbs and steak over there, man, Michael Jordan,
picture them kids.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Everybody's sick over there. Y'all enjoy y'all food. That's that
real quick.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Actually, that's that's how much what it is in all
these campuses.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yes, damn yeah no, if you athlete, boy, that beating good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Man, you told me that TC was talking to your
son over there. Heard they had crab limbs over there too. Man,
come on, they tonny let me eat. One day after steak,
I was like, who's transferring from here?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Play State?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Be sitting at me, coach be kicking me. Yeah, I
think i'mna play that seventh year coach. I'm applied.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
And they were selling all those brothers from the hood.
Look y'all eating.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Who must take.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Way too mistake because anybody ever hast we'll bring it back.
We're putting all different talking about Man, you don't have
to take that to your room. You can always come
back against. I said, I'm gonna do that too. I'm
(25:32):
leaving with something, leaving with.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Cowboy.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Assistant coaches met with the media this week and uh
and then it's being the case. The form offensive line
coach of Wildcats is now down here said they plan
to be a physical offensive line. Clayton Adams is the
offensive coordinator former offensive lind head coach over the Arizona
They are they are talking about preaching being a physical
(26:00):
football team up front. They are going to be committed
to running the ball. I know it's what it sounds like,
but you know what, Church, it was something we never
heard or saw Mike McCarthy do this commitment to run
the football. Let's be physical upfront. They realize this is
division right now. You better control the line. If you
(26:21):
don't control the line against Philadelphia and Washington, you're in trouble.
You got to win this division. If you forget trying
to talk Super Bowl you how do you win this division?
Speaker 13 (26:31):
Now?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
With these two teams here, and we know what these
two teams are doing. They're trying to play in the trenches,
and the Cowboys have to meet the challenge.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So when I heard that, at least to me, that
was a good idea. I know it's what you're saying
right now, you need to see actions, But at least
I like what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And they're saying this is coming from Schottenheimer, and they're
all buying into it. They all got the hopium shot.
Everybody out here drinking the kool aid and they saying it,
and doogg on it. If you're a Cowboy fan to be,
that's that's good. Now we're talking about the tools. I
don't know about the tools right now. They had to
ford a run game all on the offensive line. But
(27:14):
at least you're talking about now, go go hey, Will
McLay free once again, friend, let's go fill it. Let's
go fill out. But at least you have a vision.
Starts with a vision. Okay, at least we have a vision.
We want to be physical. Okay, we want to we
want to win the trenches. Now how do you do it?
That's the next thing. But at least you have the
vision of what it is you want to be man.
(27:34):
All these all these guys are saying the right things.
You see Flues talking about we getting Masie right. Yeah,
you know you got coming down from shot night. When
we're going to run the football. We're going to be
a physical team. And we saw teams Cowboys teams in
the past when they're physical. You know, that's the best
teams that you have.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
But we've heard the same thing from mister Mike McCarthy
when he was talking about we're gonna run the football,
and we did the exact opposite thing.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So I hear a lot like you said words. You know,
they can play a little bit here.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I gotta see these actions because when you look into
this division, the Eagles front seven offensively and.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Defensively outstage is good. Team is bad.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
They killing people, They killing Washington. You still got the
Bama boys up there.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
DQ.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
He's gonna reload, Yeah, killing Dady killing people. Gotta find
a way to be physical. But for me, we hear
this physical talk all the time. I just don't think
this team will be patient enough to ride the run.
But you at least have to recognize it. You do,
you know, and at the first until you got it
that you got a problem, right before you had what
was you do?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Twelve step? Think got first thing that you got a problem.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
But yeah, you got a sixty million dollar quarterback and
you gotta what thirty five thirty eight million dollar wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I don't think this team is gonna be patient enough
to sit there.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Let's run, run, run, and you know, play action here
and there. I don't see this team being that. How okay,
how do you help that sixty million dollars? Oh that's
an I'm with you one hundred percent. You run the football,
I'm with you one hundred percent. Because the last coach
wasn't really trying to do that. At least this coach
recognizes and at least he says he does. Yeah, well,
(29:10):
but what is Shoddy's history been?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
He's done that?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I mean so, so at least I know I'm not
lying to me. He's at least done it. He's at
least admitted he wanted to do it. You know, you
talk to guy like lt wearing the ball, so you
could be committed to it, you know, when it's happening,
when it's ten carries for twenty one yards, will will
you be committed to it?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But that was Mike though Mike was Mike was always
that way. Yeah, I'm going to the past. Will you
go back to it? Like? Man, it's run ain't working,
it's on you four. I don't know, so.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
I am, I am, I'm look, here's at that. I
don't that sounds like bulljob to me. Okay, let's just
let's just call it right and if we're gonna know
what okay, because here we here's the deal. We we
we arrived back to this. We'll ride back to the
same place each and every year. What we're telling ourselves
(30:05):
we got to be physical clouded us. And then we
get out there on Sunday and da'strowing the ball forty times.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
The different regime. No, it's the big regime. Okay, okay,
make okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
But but.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Just say our God, bron make make But you know,
I mean you panting out the bar.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
He wanted out the problem. But where's the solution.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
And if you're telling me that ric o' dadel in
some ways something, come on, let's go back to what
we have in.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
The cupboard, because we can't deviate from what we have.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
If you're telling me Tyler goydon okay, if you mentioned
he was mentioned, Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So here's a positive guidance. Yes, no, you go ahead.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
All I'm saying is when you point out about Philadelphia,
when you point out about the command, you know what
you have coming, all right, And the best way to
nullify that is to be physical. You can't play for
Nest Football against Philly anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
They're not there. They are built to bruise, all right.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And if you don't run the ball, if you can't
run the ball, I eat the super Bowl in Kansas City,
what do they do? They are going to make life
hell for you and your quarterback that you're paying all
this money to. He's not gonna be successful when Dak
stands up and say, oh.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
We're close, We're right there. You know we're right there.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
All those guys, I've had a lot of time, proof
and consistency of beating them, Dak. Times changed and you
saw it with your own eyes. Times have changed. And
if you can't fix your offensive line, you have more
problems coming to you than you know that it's going
to start up front.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Heckma, I love the passion. I love the passion, and
I like the fact that you are skeptical. You should
be sca because we hear we've been told a lot
around Okay, sold the whole lot with.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
That good friend, electorro McNeil says, Hall of Fame speaker.
You must see things as they are, which is what
I think they're doing. We don't run the ball, see
things as you think they are. We want to be
a physical football team. We want to commit to run
and then make them the way you see them.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
These are the steps that you must do, because.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
We all know order for you to try to at
least try to compete in this division, you're gonna have
to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
There's still steps to be taken.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I for one, am not sold on what they bringing
back last year's group at all.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
There needs to be stuff done.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I did ask the running back coach, I mean the
offensive line coach about DJ Giddings and running back of case,
because there's a bunch of running backs available deep.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Learn tech gotta run back. Caroline to run back. He
was too hurt.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I went him playing. Actually wasn't at K State Oklahoma
State game last year. Yes, and the kid from K
State I played, Oli Gordon.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah he's probably hurt last year.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
But but but still there's there are people in Arizona State. Guy,
you know that they're scatter. There are players there. They
at least recognized. And that to me is where I
don't think Mike gave us. I think Mike lip serviced it.
But then you just go back to his career. He
never ran the ball. It wasn't what he did. Shody
at least has all right. We got to get a
(33:29):
break in here, and boy, I tell you you get
too hard.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
What I'm saying no positive, Heck, I'm still here.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah, the Eagle's broken hurts because of that year.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Broke.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Broke said that man, I might need a little resuscitation
from the Eagles winning the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
That might be what it is. Thank you for pointing
that out.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
You did say NFC East team against Kansas City super Bowl.
You did say to beginning, but.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You picked your Maine. But it was mic.
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Speaker 16 (38:01):
Ain't at all. It's a cod world cold rooted.
Speaker 15 (38:14):
Up.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You know, I forgot what man showed up with the
rooted shirt.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Boy had to root it one shirt on the rudy
shirt on man, Lord, please tell me I say shot,
I'm shiny.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Please don't be like the last coaches out here with
these shirts and slogan.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
It's okay.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
So that's like a you gotta come up with a slogan,
deal man.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Because everybody Garrett had his what was fight Willian's technically
garretts the fight was the program that was a pro
then different iteration with the seventeen inches one Yeah, then
it was all little different things all the time. You know,
get after that, you know the guato. Then Mike had
(39:06):
his car baby car baby omnia and rooted. What's that
all resulted? And not not a darn thing. I ain't
gonna Okay, don't resonate them unless you got one. It
susists super old bound. I mean stop it. Just just
put on the Cowboys shirt and go.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
That's it. That's it. Are you good? Dear shot? You
don't put anything out there, Just get right the team
to work.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Don't come with rooted, don't give something else planet out
at all.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
This last dance, the last shirt up.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
See that's what that's when it happened. That's what the positivity.
You see what I'm saying every way out too long? Man,
See what I'm saying every time I come in? Now
you just laughing me out the door. Remember that rooty shirt?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Where is that? Oh? You one got you?
Speaker 13 (40:07):
You like.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Cold code? Heck? How you know that? So they sold
to the public, said they sold to them. I got
a rooted shirt, y'all, ain't get a rooted shirt? What hey?
Man to to endorse? Hey?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
You paid no free to endorse to you know, be
all in another one. That's another one.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Then that didn't jive. You know, it happened. They had
this Cleveland games like this is it?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Oh you really? Then all showed up after the Cleveland
and the didn't have tackles.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
We said, good, good, but they don't know tackles, no tackles.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
But yeah, yeah. By the way, Cowboy Nation was a
bit harsh on Lawrence Taylor. Oh well, t sunny.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Why do they get salt yet, said Michael Parsons less
less podcasts. We're playing went at the l TS personal
issues while he was playing because we miss games. Did
miss miss miss many games because because he wasn't available.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
He was.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
You know that's going he was in Aspen word l T.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Like I said, man out of pot, cowboy cowboy name.
We're not trying to hear Lawrence Taylor criticized Michael Parsons
about not playing, you know, about about games, considering that
he had a lot of substitutes issues during his time.
They did not want to hear that from him.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, you know, and that there are ways, Look, there
really are ways to get through. And I think Lawrence
Taylor is one of those players that generationally you could
come back to is dominant, you know, off.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
The off the field.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Obviously those are documented, you can come back to those.
But times have changed so much, man, from from the
from the old school guys to the new school guys,
and a lot of guys's they don't listen to it.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's like they don't they don't care.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
About that, especially when they hear about some of the
off the field things. But there's something to be learned
in this whole split between generations because I think as
players now you see guys controlling their own narratives.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It's more about it. It's more than just the field now, which.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Branding is, branding is all those other things they go
into it. And when I look at Michael Parsons, truly, man,
he probably grew up in an everywhere DeMarcus Ware was
the guys that he's watching, guys like that, right and
exactly so those are the guys that can speak to
him that he would understand directly as players. And I
think when he hears that from Lawrence Taylor's like, you
(43:09):
don't get it, you don't understand. But what I love
about Michael is we're not hearing about off the field
issues from him, all right, but we do want to play.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
To go up to activity thank god, there's no authority. Yeah,
so I was.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
I was talking to research at least and Milly yesterday.
She brought up a very good point about gen Z.
She's just now they have more choices than ever. And
if you're talking about trying to build a brand, you're
talking about just what you can do outside of football.
A player of Michael Parson's talent has the more choices,
and so he's gone the podcasting round.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Travis Kelsey has gone the podcasting you got I'm on
Saint Brown. There's a lot of when how he long played.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
You're too young to remember this, but you remember how
we long used him off day to tape inside the
NFL segments on HBO as he was getting ready for
his career before Greg Olsen ended up leaving. Greg Olsen
went into the television booth to work on things. So
and all three were good players. Michael Parsons is still
playing at a Pro Bowl level. Okay, he was hurting
(44:19):
miss games this year, but he operated at almost say
all pro level, but made the Pro Bowl in miss
numerous games. I am not that concerned about it as
other people are, as Lawrence Taylor is. If the guy
was not producing then maybe you'd say something, we're not
(44:39):
talking about a guy like Mazzie Smith, where you're saying, okay,
we use his pick on you.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
He gab, but where are you at?
Speaker 3 (44:44):
That's not Michael Parsons is a difference maker on the
football field.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Overall, the team just needs to win more games.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
But I don't look at Michael Parlan saying you know what,
Oh my gosh, you're the problem. Or if Michael stopped
doing his podcas has all of a sudden, his game
would go ten more levels.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
I don't know I've asked you this, but Barry, did
you have any mentors when you were in the league,
like guys that you know, professional league that were either
playing or out of the league that you talked to
to just deal with maybe personal financial.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Oh yeah, you got so.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
For me, it was Terrence Newman when I first got here,
and the guy Gerald Senseiball.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Who we talk about all the time, and.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
And those guys back when I first got in it
was kind of tunnel vision football like it was. It
was right before kind of social media blew up and
guys started doing this brand stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
You didn't have.
Speaker 6 (45:33):
Everything with football football, and that's what they helped me,
you know, sharpen my craft and get better at I
wish I had a you know, a guy. I was like,
you need to think thing about this outside of the
ball or that, or you know how Greg Olsen got
into it.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
That would be you know, that would be pretty dope
in my opinion.
Speaker 6 (45:48):
And Michael Parsons is taking advantage of it because he
knows NFL.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
And also make sure you understand what is the pecking
order when you're doing it. Michael Parsons is the first
round draft by the team, who the owner loves, who
is playing a position where he's on TV a lot
because he's getting to the Quarterbrock yep. So you can
do that. It's kind of hard to do that if
(46:12):
you are Austin Richards and you're a backup tackle or
brock Hoffman at the backup center. You have to be
in a position to do this. To take advantage of
some of these things. I mean, God bless Jason Kelsey.
The him doing the podcast is really a lot because
of his brother. Here's Travis dating homegirl and so now
touch it down.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
You get to ride up in here too.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
But how many offensive centers in the NFL are able
to go out here and do chunky super commercials and
do podcasts like that. So things have to align. You've
got to have the choices and be in the right position.
So anyway, it is what it is. But you know
what the cowboy assistant coaches everybody right now is take
this with you cowboysman. They are in a line with
(46:53):
what the head coach is saying. The head coaches hire
people who believe in his vision and they're going to
try to execute it.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Let us see now to get ready for the combine.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
It starts to happen as you get ready for free agency.
What they do to help the coach and the coaching staff.
And that comes from.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Gerald Wayne Jones, President, general manager of the team. Maherrison positive,
he positive.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Next week, come on, we'll go see the coaches. The
coach is gonna give some of that.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
We're gonna be right. We're gonna be singing the Doobie Brothers.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Keep you run, don't do that, can't keep you run here,
you gonna start running, that's me.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Come on, heck, that's sure.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Strut from Chris Josh, Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
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