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April 22, 2024 44 mins
The guys discuss the 2024 running back class and who they’d like to see come to Dallas, the pros and cons of extending Dak Prescott, and make their “dream pick” at no. 24.

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Speaker 4 (03:07):
Okay, it is here. It is. What's going on, bro, Cowboys? Uh,
draft taking injured players, especially in the second round, has
been something that they've done. They have, so let's get

(03:28):
your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
I mean, they've had success when you look back all
the way to you know, from what I can remember,
Bruce Carter, he was coming off that a c L.
He had a really good, you know, career here with
the Dallas Cowboys. Sean Lee of course in the second round. Uh,
So they've had success developing these guys, getting them right.
The guy you know, mister Smith, he was the second
round pick too as well, right, so he he had

(03:50):
a couple Jalen Smith, he had a.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Couple of good years here as well.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
You know, to me, man, he just got to be
right because because if you're not, that's the second round pick,
you know, and the injuries just keep piling up. The
next thing, you know, you had a second round pick
and a guy that's supposed to come in here, and
if you're a second round you're supposed to contribute immediately,
whether it's starting or you know, you're getting a lot
of snaps out there. So if they do go that route,
you know, they just better be right like they're were

(04:16):
in the past with those guys that I just named,
because if you're not, that's that's almost two years in
a row where that second round draft pick really hasn't
panned out. You know, maybe we'll see a little bit more,
you know, coming from schoolmaker, but from what I've seen
so far, that would be two years back to back
where that second round pick, you know, didn't provide much
for your team.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, I mean, but you also have to throw in there.
Diggs was the second round pick. I mean, come on,
so you had some success in the second round. I
think more than anything, what has been the thing that
is kind of caught my attention as just the Cowboys
affinity for injured players coming into the draft. You've heard
about Jonathan Brooks being you know, there's been some attention

(04:56):
on him. And obviously you need a running back, you do.
I don't killing no money saying you need a running back,
but you know they're going out on the limb. You
just mentioned I think you just mentioned Jalen Smith, you know,
and taking him out of Notre Dame with a horrible
injury that he you know's probably the reason why guys
don't play in Bowl games now because of what happened
to Jalen Smith. But you get a guy like that

(05:18):
and he comes back from drop foot, they were very
patient with him. But these these injuries, I mean, you're
able to get picked these guys up, man, and obviously
try and make them into something based off of what
their past performance was. And I just you know, Jonathan
Brooks out of the University of Texas, to me, man,
it's just one of those guys that you hope is
going to be there for the Cowboys to pick, even

(05:38):
with the injury. I mean, even with it. I mean
tshar Choice talked about him, former Dallas Cowboy and the
University of Texas coach man, when he talks about this kid,
he glows about. I mean, you know, is gonna keep
it real, He's gonna keep it a buck and and
he's you know, talked about him being a dog and
you need that, you need that in between the tackles guy.
But also obviously you be a little h You're gonna

(06:02):
shy away from a guy coming off of an injury
like that. But the doctor from the Cowboys did do
the injury. Can he do all the other intangibles? Can he,
you know, pick up blocks, you know all those things
he catch out of the backfield? Yes, all those things.
So look, this is gonna be an interesting couple of
days for the Cowboys who they pick up in this draft. Man,

(06:23):
and I'm just give me a running back, please go
to all give me whatever you call him. Just give
me a dog, please, I got you.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Jonathan Brooks is six foot two hundred and sixteen pounds.
According to the Cowboys Draft Guy, his comparison is lebyon
Bell Kyle Yeomens. Number two running back is Trey Benson
out of Florida State stateful dude to sixteen a senior.

(06:54):
His comparison is aj Dillon and Bucky is number three
like him about His comparison is Kyraene Williams, who's with
the Rams. Blake Koram, Michigan national champion, ran behind a massive,
big offensive line. His comparison is Zach Moss. But Blake

(07:17):
korm is small five eight two o five a very
interesting kid Audric estimate out of Notre Dame five eleven
two twenty one. Carlos Hyde has been his comparison. There's
an interesting type of player like that. He's he is
a big back. If you're concerned about third and two.

(07:41):
There's a gentleman right there that they could definitely be
on the radar. Kid out of Kentucky Ray Davis five
eight to eleven. His comparison to Sony Michelle. Mike McCarthy's
had an affinity for Wisconsin guys in his career. Brayln
Allen six foot one, two hundred and thirty five pounds.
That's a big boy I see in him play Brian

(08:02):
Robinson junior his comparison there and the thing that they
wrote about here and the cowboy guy. The con on
him is a bit of a fumbling issue with four
fumbles as both a freshman and a junior. And Allen
never really pieced together a run as a receiver.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
So and you know, out of all those backs, at
all those backs, to me, I like the body type
that can get downhill in a hurry, like like I understand,
like you know our offsive line.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
You know, we're getting things together.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
We have some great vets along with some you know,
guys that are getting better as they go along. I
feel like the back that would compliment our offensive line
right now will be a straight downhill guy. You know,
no duking, no jive and no trying to create space
and all that stuff. Straight downhill and punish just this,
these defenses that the Cowboys are going against, you know,
these past couple of years, you know, since Zeke's departure
and since he's been split in time with TP, we

(08:54):
really never had that guy that can just get downhill
and punish these you know, defenses, make them respect the run.
I mean, the defenses were playing with us with a
light box with Tony Polla last year and allowing those
guys to put people in coverage to make those wind
these murky or those windows murky for Dak Prescott in
the passing game and play action. If you got a
guy that can get downhill in a hurry as a defender,

(09:14):
I'm telling you, once you hit these guys a couple
of times, you know you're gonna be like, I gotta
get in this box early. I can't, you know, play
around this guy. I gotta get in the box earlier
to stop him before he gets started. That'll open up
so many more things for Dak Prescott in this passing offense.
So to me, all those backs, you know, they've got
great skills individually, but I like the guy that can
get downhill in a hurry, hit the hole if it's
two three yards in the cloud of dust, okay, make

(09:35):
that defense respective and that'll bring that coverage up and
allow Dak Prescott with the weapons he has on the
outside to expose these defenses.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
So to me, I like that downhill guy man, you
know with that, And I.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Like where you're going with that BC because really, to me,
that's the intriguing thing about rico' dadele because that's him.
He don't have a lot to him. He's the one cut,
go kind of guy. And you mentioned the offensive line
and having to build this offensive line back up with
the guys that you have missing. I think he fits
the bill as well. And look you right now you

(10:07):
go and you sign the Royce Freeman, who is uh
have to give that you know, credit uh that to
the organization bringing him in. But right now, your your
backfield is Ross Freeman, Duce, Von Malik Davis and ricco o'dadele.
You want to you want to you need another guy
in the mix to compete and and I think and

(10:28):
I just believe that wholeheartedly the Cowboys are going to
do that. I don't believe that this is your you know,
beginning of training camp backs. Uh, you're gonna you're gonna
add a rookie to it in some way. And if
they don't go through the draft, the thing obviously free agency,
you're gonna have somebody in there as well. But I
think ricco' dadle fits the bill for exactly what you're
talking about.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Hill one cut Imani Bailey of TCU has been a
player that's come to visit over here at the Star
five seven to two, big twelve performer Jason McClellan of Alabama.
It's been someone else who's had interest from the team.

(11:08):
He's five eleven two twenty one big.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
And a local guy. I mean, Jase McClellan got an
opportunity to call his games in high school. Chris Beam
in the back, he knows he knows this guy pretty well. Man.
It's uh, he is a big, physical kid. Can I
also catch the ball? So that would be And I
don't know what grade they have on McClellan. I know
he's going to be a later round guy. But you

(11:34):
have some opportunity there, especially when you mentioned the money.
Bailey also a local kid, just fast, fast, quick twitch,
but he's more of the type that you're not looking for.
He's a space player. Yeah, he's definitely you know, in
between and you know that that short area quickness kind
of guy.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
It's nothing, you know, no, we can have, you know,
power back in a space guy. You know she had
those too. You know, I have to be wrapped up
in one package, but you know I definitely lean to
is the guy that's gonna be downhill putting that shoulder
pass in the guy's chest.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
So we'll see what's happening. We'll say Cody Schrader out
of Missouri had a really good year, and you know
there's potentially another player. Frank Gore Junior played in the
East West Shrine Bowl over here at the Fords and
it was MVP. Obviously his daddy, Frank Gore Senior, many
many great years in the NFL M Southern Mississippi five

(12:27):
two hundred pounds. So by all accounts, we could probably
expect to see a running back taken by the club
at some point. And the question I think has to be,
is it in round two or three. You don't have
a fourth round pick, and so it's going to be

(12:50):
interesting because they have a lot of needs. So we'll dive,
you know, obviously, see what happens. Come Thursday's take our
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Speaker 2 (16:13):
You mean that he's gonna call this lawyer immediately with
a second it does happen.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
That's kinda catch you. What's going down?

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Got the paperwork ready? Quarterback Dak Prescott, I'm on BC. Gone, man,
I'll let you to.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Dive into it. But I did put out a tweet
and I just simply said, name me another quarterback who's
led the league in touchdown passes, who finished second team
All Pro that is sitting here wondering about his future
with the club. Very legitimate, very legitimate.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Gone, bear go ahead, very like that.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
I get on my mans every now and then, right
when I only go about what I see out there.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
That's all I can go about what I see out there.
Do I think he's a hell of a quarterback? Yes?
I do.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
I mean you don't get those accolades like nu, he
just said, without being able to go on the field
and get things done like you just said, you know,
let it. Let the league, not just the team, let
the league and touchdown passes, last year, second team All
pros in the MVP category, all that great stuff. So
he is a hell of a quarterback. My thing is,
and I'm not saying they should go this route. I'm
not saying it at all, because I believe that he

(17:32):
should come back to the Dallas Cowboys and he gives
them the best opportunity to win right now. If that's
what you know they're trying to do is win this
year right now. I believe that Prescott gives you the
best opportunity. But the question I want to pose to
you guys is, with all this these young guys coming
out in the draft, there's a lot of you know,
great talented quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
In this draft.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
Do y'all believe and I could be way off, but
do y'all believe Prescott is fifty five to sixty million
dollars better than these young guys coming out the draft
this year?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Absolutely? Absolutely? Okay, yeah, right, no, go ahead. New So
you bring up the number of sixty million, go back
to when the number of forty million to DAK got
for some reason, when DAK is being paid, we look

(18:24):
at it as a oh my gosh, forty million dollars.
Kyler Murray now makes forty six million dollars. True, justin
Herbert Joe Barrow they're well over fifty. The way this
works with this TV deal and the new batchup money,
it's gonna go up. Dak Prescott sixty million if that's

(18:45):
what he gets, because right now that's what you're sitting
at here. You're gonna be looking at that kind of number.
This is just going to be where it goes to next. True,
But for some reason people want to point at the
player as though, oh my gosh, you say, is he
worth it? The Cowboys determined he was worth it because
they wrote it in the contract. They did that. That's true.

(19:09):
At the end of his day, Jerry and Steven could
have said no, but they didn't. So they're sitting here
with the number renegotiated extended. We'll see whatever they do.
But when you talk about, hey, man, is he worth this?
With all due respect to Kirk Cousins, is he worth

(19:32):
the money he is getting right now coming off an
achilles injury for a guy who's never won anything significantly.
He asked your quarterback to cut down on his interceptions
because he led the league in interceptions. He turns around
and becomes the NFL's passing leader in touchdowns in the
first year of an offense So when you ask the question,

(19:55):
in my mind, I look at and I say, outside
of winning in the playoffs, what else did he do
in this league that says pay him? That's true, you
know that.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
No, great, absolutely great point. But you know, I mean,
that's why I knew it. That's why you got the Emmys. Man,
You're the wordsmith, see you. You put it together so well.
But other than saying what the hell is wrong with everybody?
And why what it is? What is it about Dak
that's so polarizing that people are either far left or
far right? There's nobody in between on Dak right mediocre?

(20:33):
He had done this, he hadn't done it. He didn't.
But then when you point to the money that other
quarterbacks make, it, mum's the word. Nobody even has anything
to say about these other guys. You give the quarterback
that you're just talking about at market setting deal and
he Kirk Cousins at his age coming off of an
achilles injury, and nobody's even talking about the Achilles injury.

(20:55):
What is it about Dak? What is it about Dak
that makes it where he he has to after the
year that he had answer questions about not being in Dallas.
If the salary cap whatever it was designed to do,
quarterbacks it on. All thirty two teams take up about
fifteen percent of the salary cap. That's the norm. And

(21:17):
now he's just talking about how the salary cap is
going up. So if it's three hundred million dollars in
the next five years or so, quarterbacks are gonna take
up the lion's share of that, no matter what. Right,
And you could point to the teams that have rookie
deals whatever. Joe Burrow ain't on a rookie deal no more,
all right, and nobody's Matt Stafford is not on a
rookie deal anymore. Nobody cares about those deals. Look, in

(21:38):
order to win anything, you have to have a quarterback,
and you know, building around those quarterbacks is paramount. I
think the only guy that can do it without any
talent is Patrick Mahomes, and there's only one of him, okay,
But everybody else you are gonna have to build around.
I think the one thing that's puzzling for me is

(21:59):
if you don't get this deal done, it stops you
from getting done everything else. You can only bring in
these B level guys or that's you can't go out
and get any free agent of note because of you
not getting Dak's deal done. And look, it's just to me,
it gets well beyond disrespect when he has to answer

(22:21):
that question. And I believe it was it wasn't Clarence Hill,
it was Calvin Watkins that was asking the question. And
he has to say, you know, look I don't and basically,
you know being here in Dallas or do you fear
going somewhere else? And he's and he's like, I don't
fear either scenario, and exactly what do you think he's
gonna say? Exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
So let's just run through the numbers, all right, You're
twenty twenty four quarterback average ranking in in terms of salaries,
Number one. Joe Burrow fifty five million dollars. Joe Burrow's
been to Super Bowl, so also had trouble with health.
Part of that is they have not given him a
good offensive line in his career at Cincinnati. Justin Herbert

(23:03):
fifty two point five million dollars. Lamar Jackson fifty two
million dollars. And keep in mind the year before Lamar
Jackson basically had to demand a trade, and people think
there was a collusion about getting him paid despite having
won an MVP. He got the money and then he
won a second MVP. Jalen Hurts, who's been to a

(23:25):
Super Bowl, fifty one million dollars. Kyler Murray forty six
point one million dollars. Go back to when Kyler Murray
got his deal, there was a clause in there about
him studying. Yeah, so there were questions.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Seriously, put the call of duty down, put the sticks down.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Deshaun Watson guaranteed that he's making forty six million dollars. Yes,
that was tripping. Joe Flacco was brought in and took
them to the playoffs. DeShawn was hurt. Number seven Kirk
Cousins forty five million dollars. Then Patrick Mahomes is with
him forty five million dollars, Josh Allen forty three million dollars.

(24:05):
Number ten Matt Stafford forty million dollars, Daniel Jones forty
million dollars.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Dak Prescott forty million.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
So if you talk about paying people and you look
at the production the last three years, how wasn't a
pretty good team? Is he.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
The Mahomes guy the airon run? No, he's not.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
But at the end of the day, they made a determination.
We think you're that they paid the note. And some
people say, well, okay, fine, move on. What are you
moving on to? What is Trey Lance showed you? I
haven't seen anything, and so maybe that's the plan. I
don't know what it is, but if you don't have

(25:00):
one of these players, you're going to be in a
really tough spot. You want to be Tampa Bay. Tampa
Bay is going to pay Baker Mayfield thirty three million
dollars this year. Okay, they've saved money, but ultimately, where
do you see this team two to three years with
Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
I don't know where do we see the Cowboys in
two to three years after pay? Because like, if we
if we pay that, are you able to make these
other deals get done? Can you pay the CD Lambs?
Can you pay to Michael Parsons? Absolutely get getting back done.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
So, so to me, I'll counter your point with this,
is this a quarterback league or not? It is? Okay,
it is a quarterback league, I will give you that. So,
so if it's just a quarterback league and you're basing
things off that, if you don't have one and Trey
Lance is your best option are you're going to use

(25:57):
a pick right now? Now you're in the Hope game.
And Jerry and I keep telling people this, and I
was here. I saw it. The Quincy Carter Hera to
Chad Hutchinson, to Clint Sterner, Ryan Leif to oh, let's

(26:17):
roll out Drew Blood. See, let's put him on the
Let's get lucky with Tony Romo. They got lucky with Dak.
So this has not been an operation. It's been finally tuned.
We've got we've got a plan, we've got a strategy.
The two quarterbacks that have had the most success here

(26:37):
they ran into him by accident. Was undrafted. Yeah, the
only smart thing they really did because Sean Payne tried
to trade for him, and I don't know where they
at this point time. Oh maybe he really is good
Kashawn Watson, But when have they took that leap in
the first round?

Speaker 5 (26:56):
So they haven't taken that leap, So we can't sit
there say, Okay, you know they got lucky with this,
that and the third because they haven't tried that leap
into the first round.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Now you know, if it was a fifth, you.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Know we'd all be But the process of just you know,
getting lucky on these quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Isn't that what kind of led them to where we
are right now?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Being a great regular season, mediocre playoff.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Squad and you're picking right around twenty three, twenty four
every year?

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Is that what this organ like?

Speaker 9 (27:27):
You know?

Speaker 7 (27:28):
That?

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Is that the priority for this organization? Following up on
what you said, we look at the playoff loss and
Dak did not have a good game. Defense didn't have
a good game. Coaching staff didn't have a good game.
CD lamb didn't have a good game. Offensive line didn't

(27:51):
have a good game. It wasn't good. I look at
Lamar Jackson two and four in the playoffs, he did
not have a good game for Baltimore. Offense didn't have
a good game. And so we look at the performance
and Dak Prescott two and five in his career, and
we put it all on the player. And yes, you're
paying him that much, and when you get paid that much,

(28:13):
you're supposed to make up for things. How do they
fix this trend in Baltimore and in Dallas to get
your franchise quarterbacks playing at this high level that you
want them to be. And then what else do you do?
With your team. If we're pointing the finger there, then
let's also make sure we're looking at other aspects of
how have you built your football team? Talking about it, man,

(28:34):
your run defense has been terrible in these games. The
other teams, these three playoff losses have been able to
establish the run and make life hard for you, and
you haven't been able to really effectively run the ball.
While Tony Pollard did have a nice game against the
forty nine ers, it was effected, but he got hurt
brokes leg.

Speaker 10 (28:53):
Yeah, so it's so easy to say that guy, and
I'll go back to this and I took And sometimes
it's about fairness, but we always say it's interesting on
who we choose to forgive and who we choose to condemn.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Peyton Manning's playoff record we started his career was terrible. Yeah,
it's terrible, thirteen to three seasons getting drilled at home.
And so once again it's interesting what you'd say, Ah,
I roll with him and then well get rid of him?
Getting rid of him, and where are you going to
do when you haven't been a franchise. It's shown you
know what to do if you draft Michael Pennings in

(29:30):
the first round, they're starting all over him. Now, you
got a quarterback room with Dak, Prescott, Cooper, Rush, Trey Lance,
Michael Pennings. How are we going to get anyone better?
That's true? And you know you hear the old trade
dec What are you trading that for? It's got no

(29:52):
trade claws? And why would you give up your nerd
trade class to go someplace without an extension? How many
teams right now we all look at salary cap and
people have just spent money. Who's in a position right
now where they have a slot of sixty million dollars
that they can go make this deal, give up potential
draft picks and everything else.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
But I mean, I think the cause and effect of
everything that you're talking about, especially with teams like Baltimore
that had to bring in an offensive coordinator to be
able to coach up guy like Lamar Jackson to make
him a better quarterback. You know their defense as well,
they've pretty much built everything around around that. The Cowboys

(30:33):
felt like they were built to get through the playoffs,
and you're building to beat the San Francisco forty nine ers.
I just look whatever Dak did, whatever he's doing to
tack people off, you know, to get to be this
polarizing guy that guys will people the media, people won't
just choose on and say, look, who's better than him,

(30:54):
because you say, you'd say Herbert in his contract, but
nobody even questions his record regardless of where he is
athletically there, Okay, and even when you talk about Baker Mayfield,
Baker Mayfield, as polarizing as he is, he found a
home in Tampa and he made it work, all right,
So we got to give him credit. Give him credit
for that. Like not getting an extension done does not

(31:17):
allow you to sign your star players. And if you're Dak,
you want to be able to sign a CD LAMB
because you'll success is equally tied together. Okay, you want
to be able to bring a running back in that's
gonna help you have that ball, ball, control, field position,
all of those things that are running back running back
gives you if you're Dak Prescott Man, there are no

(31:38):
We just pointed out there's only one guy that can
do it with B level talent, you know, but other
than that, there aren't three or four other quarterbacks that
you would mention above them. Now there are Dak haters, right,
now streaming and throwing their phones around because they're like, no,
I didn't get Michael Pennix, but for who?

Speaker 7 (31:57):
For what?

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Like?

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Come on? Like you you are definitely starting all over again.
Maybe that helps you with your contract negotiation with the
rest of these guys, but that puts you back at
square one as it relates to the talent and at
the quarterback position. When in the NFL, the most coveted
position is the quarterback, and we are treating ours like

(32:19):
you know, red head step child, I guess you shout
out to all the redheads.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Do you want to become the Pittsburgh Steelers? No, no,
where the Steelers right now?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
And quarterback?

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Hell, you don't want that trade for Russell Wilson for nothing? Yeah,
you make a trade for Justin Fields. How confident do
you feel in them even though you know they're going
to make the playoffs because of the Mike Tomlin ten
wander in the desert Washington since Kirk Cousins left and

(32:52):
they didn't sign him. Look at them the road to
what are we doing a quarterback? It's real, real hard.
Atlanta got rid of Matt Ryan. Look at them, Mary Joe,
So you can question the sixty million dollars and say

(33:16):
what about this? And can he take them? And you
can say all of these things, and I will not
sit here and debate you to say you're wrong, but
I will come back to the thing. This is hard.
We got too many teams out here who don't have
somebody the New England Patriots. Okay, we're gonna let Tom
Brady lee. Oh, we can get cheaper, we can get this,
we can get that. Oh we'll use a first round

(33:36):
pick that Jones made the Pro Bowls first year. Where
are you at now.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
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Speaker 4 (33:48):
The example and the hope that you would think at
some point in time teams would do, let's draft a quarterback.
While we have a quarterback, let's develop him, and let's
get ready to go. Trey Lance, in a sense, is
supposed to be that type of player. But we haven't
seen anything just yet. No, so let's get a break

(34:10):
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want to know heck Ma Harrison's dream pick at number
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See you there, thank you, heck Maherrison new he scrugs
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get ready for the draft which will be Thursday, a
round one in Detrouce. Sure who is your dream pick

(37:48):
at number twenty four? Heck Maherrison.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
You know, hey, this is dream pick because we've already
done what we know, being sensible about what we're going
to get in the draft. And I've already said offensive
line first track for first pick. All right, So who
is my dream my dream pick? And this is gonna
it's gonna be all North Texas. Uh here on my
dream pick, that's gonna be not North Texas University. I'm
talking got you. I've had to get in my back

(38:17):
I go. I'm gonna go with my mayor, Byron Murphy,
Barron Murphy from the University of Texas. My comp for
Byron Murphy has always been Corey Simon. You remember Corey
Simon from Florida State doing the Florida Florida State Power
Days with mas. No, it's the defense line, defense line,
and so uh one of those guys six foot, three
hundred and twenty pounds, but just one of those immovable

(38:39):
objects in the middle of your defense. And I just
believe that Byron Murphy, he's been that way since he
played it in high school here at DeSoto. Uh Man,
just one of those guys that I think is gonna
be a fabulous pro And if we can get some
talent like that, man, and I'm jacking that from you. Too,
by the way, But Byron Murphy is my is my guy,
and the other guy if we trade back, if we
trade out Tavian Sanders from the University of Texas. Also,

(39:02):
he's a t Texas guy. Yeah, he's a tight end.
He's from North Texas, so athletic cat. Don't let him.
Don't let him follow the Kansas City. It's gonna be trouble. Trouble, yes, sir, uh,
well for me because you went d line, you know,
the d limp pic.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
I'm gonna stay on the defensive side of the ball.
I'm not gonna give up on Mozzi just yet. You know,
I'm hoping he could got that hope you'll pack on me.
I'm hoping he's able to come through. And we've seen
the jump that Tolbert was able to make, you know,
from his rookie year, his second year. Hopefully Mazie can't.
I'm saying hopefully a lot, but he can he can

(39:39):
make that job. I'm not asking him to be you know,
Warren Sap or Aaron Donald, I'm not asking that. But
can he be you know Hankins? Can he be Hankins consistently?
If he can do that, I'll be alright with that
for the second year. So my dream pick is going
to be the cat, the linebacker from Mississippi State.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
I believe in that Cooper very yeah, I'm sorry, very
fast Faraga athletic.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
If you put him next to the Kendricks, who's been
in the league since forever, since I was playing in
the league, he can show on the ropes. You gotta
have that one two combo at that linebacker spot. When
this team had that at you know, the Jayalen Smith
and the Wolf Hunter when he was on a rookie year, the.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Defense was rolling.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
They was making plays left and right.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
So if Mozzie can do his thing on the inside
and just be Hankins consistently, my dream pick would it
have to be Cooper at that linebacker spot sideline and
sideline guy can blitz.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
He'd be a nice piece dream pick. I want to
just address Mazzie shoulder surgery, lost weight at the end
of the year. Yeah, right now, he's your only one
tech Yeah yeah, that come on wise, They got to

(40:51):
help him for you, man, But where's the trust, time, proof,
and consistency. Are you ready to just trust him? And
when you say Jalen Tolbert Okay, I want you to
understand what you said when you tried to compare his
hey Jalen Tolbert disappointing rookie year, then second Jalen Tolbert

(41:13):
came into his second year, Ceede Land was the number
one receiver and Cooks was the number two receiver. Michael
Gallant was a number three receiver. It was the number four.
You weren't sitting around here looking for him to be
a starter. Right now you're talking about Monsie Smith in
a starting role. That should scare you because that's a
whole lot of hope. That is he said hope a lot.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
So that's what he already told you about to hope
you that was in that take is hope?

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Is hope the right strategy? And you look at that
and I just say, I just want to make sure
we put it all in there about when we talk
about it, and that's what we're saying at number twenty four.
I actually hope that you make a trade down. They
don't have a fourth round pick because you gave it
up for Trey Lance. And I had no problem with that,
which is why not taking a quarterback? According to Stephen

(42:01):
Jones in the draft, But if you can trade down
a little bit, then you have an option to maybe
secure a center in the second round or Edderan Cooper
in the second round, and then maybe someone else later
and potentially you know, two second round picks. If you
can get yourself a let's say, the linebacker in the
center from West Virginia Fraser. You need walk in starters,

(42:27):
you need that.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, off the bus, Off the bus, guys, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
So if you can trade down and try to pick
something up there and then dream to arrow, to me,
I think that makes a lot of sense because there's
so many holes that they need to have filled here.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
But you're gonna have to give us somebody though, knowing
who's your dream pick now you just said.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
So if you trade back and you get yourself in
the second round and you can get a high second
round pick, that's what I think about. A player like
an Edren Cooper or set the center from West Virginia
Fraser walk in starters. So I'm talking about Cooper's got
the ability to rush the passer, that kind of player,
you know, A and M. You know he's a fast guy,
CEC player, Fraser the center, he's a bigger he's a

(43:09):
bigger than Tyler. He can hold him.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
He's got bricks in the pocket.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
And I was told he was one of the great
character players at West Virginia who coming into the season
people were picking last in the Big twelve or near
last in the Big twelve, and that the coach was
going to get fired. They turned that thing around, and
so he was one of those kind of key players
in the room. You talk about a character guy and
what you need in the center spot. That's what I

(43:34):
think about. And so there's where I'm thinking of when
I say trade back potentially, Hey, do you have two
second round picks and do something with those where you
can address needs up front. You got to get your needs.
That's we're at time. Barry Church, Yes, I appreciate you, Marrison,
thank you, Chris, Bean, Joshi, everybody who's a part of this,

(43:55):
we so appreciate you. Thank you for checking out Dallas
Cowboys dot Com Radio. Make sure you're dropped watching all
the draft shows, all the other shows as we continue
to get you ready for the twenty twenty four draft.
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