December 1, 2025 • 25 mins
Team insiders Ryan Mink and Garrett Downing discuss the Ravens' playoff odds after Thanksgiving weekend, news from around the AFC North, Lamar Jackson clapping back, what needs to improve, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here
with Garrett Downing and we are going to check in
following the Ravens mini buy over the Thanksgiving weekend. The
Ravens at six and six, coming off a tough loss
to Cincinnati Bengals. Five games left, and Garrett, we are
entering December football.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is when things get cold and heat up football.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Well done, well given, Yeah, I think as as everyone
was reeling after the game on Thanksgiving, the loss of
the Bengals and and that kind of spoiled Thanksgiving for
Ravens fans, you go into the weekend and it offers
a chance for the team to have a little mini buy,
as you mentioned, which I think is always beneficial at
this time of the year. That's one of my favorite
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things about Thursday Night football is that you get the
back end of that, especially nice if you win and
you can just enjoy the rest of the weekend well.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And it's especially nice for the Ravens considering they had
an earlier by this year. Yeah, you know, past two
years it was a very late by, which was nice
before that December stretch run. Now they kind of get
a mini bi before that run.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
My big takeaway coming out of the game on Thursday
and then watching the games this weekend is week thirteen
for the Ravens. It just didn't exist. Just scratch it
off the schedule. It didn't exist because we were all
disappointed after that game on Thursday night, and you're just like,
you're mad. You had this opportunity and you lose to
a team that you were favorite to beat, and there's
frustration around that you didn't look good doing it. It
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just was not the night or the result that anybody expected.
But then, as we're going to talk about, the Steelers
lose to the Bills on Sunday and the Ravens are
right back where they were at the beginning of the week.
And so like for all of the hand ringing, which
I understand, like the disappointment and the frustration in that game,
the Ravens are right back where they started the week,
and so week thirteen, erase it from your memory. Do
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the men in black thing get out the pen, Just
erase it from your memory.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Then I don't even know what what is that called.
It's like a magic eraser wand yeah, the one.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Some of the younger listeners will not know the Men
in Black reference. You have to go back and check
out that movie. But basically that's the treatment that I'm
putting towards that game from Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, I agree, And fans around the AFC North are
not feeling great, except for Bengals fans.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I guess they're the only ones coming off of a win.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But in Pittsburgh, you know, they lost to the Bills
twenty six to seven, and it was ugly on their part,
and the Steelers have really been reeling. They lost the
Bears before that, they beat the Bengals, but I mean
they have lost three of their last four and so
and it goes back further than that, you know, in
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terms of them playing not winning football, and so they're
not feeling great about their chances right now. The Ravens
are favored currently to win the AFC North.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I think you have the odds on that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Right now. The ESPN prediction here in terms of winning
the AFC North, the Ravens have a fifty eight percent chance,
the Steelers a thirty five percent chance, and the Bengals
have entered the chat at a seven percent chance to
win the AFC North. Honestly, just looking at the division
like this is not what we're used to seeing. This
is typically one of the best divisions of football, but
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with multiple teams that are either either in the playoffs
or contending to be in the playoffs. Last year, two
teams made it with the Bengals knocking on the door.
This year looks like it's only going to be one
team as it stands right now, and so it's it's
a little bit of a different scenario when it comes
to the AFC North. But yeah, like the truth is,
we all wanted the Ravens to beat the Bengals, of course,
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of course, of course, but we also knew that it
was going to come down to the Ravens playing well
against the Steelers and beating them. Like, even if the
Ravens had won last week, this game against the Steelers
would still have incredibly important playoff implications like that it
was always going to come down to, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You need to knock the Bengals out. You need to
deliver the knockout blow to the bank.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
You would like them to just remove from the conversation, That's.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Correct, I would like I would prefer as you said,
they entered the chat Eves kind of left the door
creaked open for them. Now, don't the Ravens get another
shot at him in Cincinnati here in two weeks. But
but yes, the Steelers, that's who the Ravens are tied
with for first place. And so there's a lot of
AFC North football left to be played. Three more games,
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two against Steelers, one against Cincinnati, and the Ravens need
to win at least two of the three, have to
and to be the to be the AFC North champion,
you got to beat the other AFC North teams. That's
what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And so let's just look ahead what the road to
the division crown looks like for the Ravens, which, by
the way, would be a third straight for the Ravens,
which has never been done. All Right, So the Ravens
remaining five games at home against the Steelers at Bengals
versus the Patriots at M and T Bank Stadium, at
Packers at Steelers. So that's a that's a challenging December
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that they're going to have here, I mean, two against
the Steelers, that's, like I said, going to largely determine
THEFC North and then you have the Patriots, who are
first place the number one seed right now in the AFC,
and then at Lambeau against a good Packers team.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
This is a really tough schedule for the Ravens to
finish things out here, considering the AFC North piece of it,
and then the Again, then you're playing playing the best
team in the conference of standings wise in the Patriots,
and then a road game in Lambo on Christmas weekend
against a team that they're going to be obviously fighting
for playoff implications as well. There, so really tough schedule.
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The Steelers, though, is not really a walk in the
park either. They have played with the Ravens waye. The
Steelers remaining schedule is at Ravens versus the Dolphins at Detroit,
who they're going to be certainly playing for their their
playoff lives, then at Cleveland at Baltimore, So I don't
think it's as challenging, but it's not a cakewalk either.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And just for a good measure, Dolphins have been playing
a little bit better football recently.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
They have.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And then just I'll give you the Bengals schedule here
they are at Bills, then Ravens, then at Dolphins, Cardinals,
brown So in terms of the three teams, they have
the softest schedule remaining with games coming up against the Browns, Cardinals, Dolphins. Again,
Ravens Bills is not by any any means. So it's
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kind of funny for Ravens fans.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And the Bengals basically have to win out or close
to it.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, it's tough to know what's going to get it
done in the in the AFC North, to be honest,
is it is it ten wins? Is it nine? Is
it nine and eight? Does that get the division with
tiebreakers scenario?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I have a hard time believing that eight and nine
gets in. Okay, So yeah, so the Bengals can afford
one more loss if they're if they lose one more,
the best they can finish is eight and nine. Yeah,
and I have a tough time thing I would I
agree with you that. Now, if if they beat the Ravens,
uh and maybe because of tiebreakers, maybe if they if
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they finished tied with us and they beat us twice,
then they could get in on a tie breakers, right
and they've already played the Steelers twice. They split with
the Steelers, right, and so it's possible. Yeah, But unlikely.
I would say, I think that whoever finishes nine to
eight has a pretty good shot, and.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I think there could be multiple teams at nine and eight.
I think that that's at nine and eight, I think
you're probably looking at a tie breaker scenario in order
to probably win that division. And I ironic thing here is,
obviously Ravens fans are cheering on the Bills on Sunday
going up against the Steelers, keep the keep the Bills
gear on this week after the Ravens game, because it's
it's you want the you want the Bills to take
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down the Bengals in this game too. It's like just
interesting having these back to back games against Buffalo and
for a team that, like a lot of Ravens fans
don't like to see do well. That's not been to
Casey's last two games.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But I think that this weekend's slate of action also
did hammer home the point that this is this is
about all about the AFC North and winning the AFC
North because the road the wild card road for the Ravens.
I think that that door is closing, and you look
at the standings right now. If the season were to
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end today, the Ravens would be in the playoffs because
of their conference and division tiebreaker over the Steelers. But
the three teams that would be in as wildcard right now,
teams would be the Chargers, the Colts, and the Bills.
All three are eight and four, So those three wildcard
teams have a two game lead on the Ravens, and
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the Ravens lost to the Bills head to head. The
Ravens have a worse conference record than the Colts and
the Chargers. They're three games back of the Chargers three
in the wing column at least, and even the number
eight team, the team that's on the outside looking in
are the Houston Texans seven to five, so they're one
game ahead of the Ravens and have a tiebreaker head
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to head against the Ravens. So to me, it's all
eyes on the AFC North Crown.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Which it's kind of obvious here, but like that's the
path that you prefer. You prefer to win the division,
you get home game, you had those benefits to go
along with being for sure being and so the Ravens
our beneficiaries this year of the division being down from
a standing standpoint. Again, most years we're talking about two
or three teams getting in this year, we're probably talking
about one team from the AFC North getting in. And
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you win the division, you get that home playoff game,
and you're set up in a pretty good spot there.
But and like, look, the Ravens aren't sitting here saying like, hey,
look we only you know, we only need to win
two or three more here. No, the Ravens are going
to be going week by week saying the playoffs start now.
We Like that's the mentality that they've been in, honestly
for the last month since coming back from their bye.
They won those five straight games, and and like, I
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go back and I look at it like if when
the Ravens were one and five, and I'm not like,
I again acknowledge the disappointment of Thursday night, but when
the Ravens were one and five, if someone had offered
you six and six, would you take it? I think
most Ravens fans would be like, yeah, sign me up
for six and six. We're in the hut, right, You're
very much in the hits. Like again, you're one of five,
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flash forward to six and six. I'm there, like, just
sign on the dotted line at that point. And so
like now, when you're in the moment and you have
a chance to go seven to five, you don't want
to hear about six and six. But like so all
that said, I think that the Ravens are in a
relatively good spot. They obviously control their own destiny. They're
gonna play the Steelers here twice down the stretch, with
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an opportunity to deliver a knockout blow there to the
Bengals in two weeks. If the Ravens take care of
their own business, they're gonna be AFC North champs. And
they have the clear path to do that. And I
think that they're set up for success to do that.
But they have to go do it. That's the thing
they have to. Like just because you're the favorite right
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now and they have the fifty eight percent chance to win,
that doesn't mean you get crowned anything. You have to
go out there and do it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Absolutely, Steelers coming into this weekend's game, it is it is.
It's not bright, it's not sunny. This morning in Pittsburgh.
They put up one hundred and sixty six total yards
against the Bills. They had ten first downs to the
Bills twenty six. I mean, rough performance over there, Aaron
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Rodgers is criticizing wide receivers for not showing up to meetings.
Cam Hayward's beefing with Josh Allen. Patrick Queen suffered a
hip injury and didn't return. He was ruled out for
the remainder of that game. We'll see if he plays
against the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Like they got some issues over there really on both
sides of the ball. The offense didn't do much of
anything against Buffalo. Aaron Rodgers left the game for a
period of time after getting crushed by Joey Bosa on
a strip sack that Buffalo returned. I mean his nose,
Like he's got a massive cut on his nose. After
the game, he's playing with his left hand fractured in
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a cast. Like Aaron Rodgers is banged up right now.
Mason Rudolph came in for a period of that game,
and like there's just a lot of frustration in Pittsburgh
a lot. It goes back for a couple of years,
I think, based on the way go back to the
last season. They started those year really strong, faded down
the stretch and as you mentioned, they've lost three out
of four games. That game was in Pittsburgh yesterday. The
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Bills ran away with it in the second half and
by the fourth quarter, Pittsburgh fans were booing renegade when
they played it in the stadium, and so like it was,
there's a lot of frustration there in Pittsgh.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Bills ran for two hundred and forty nine yards. It
was Pittsburgh run defense has been rough, it.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Has it has and if you remember, and we're going
to talk about matchup stuff of the course of this week,
but that was the Ravens key to success in that
playoff game against Pittsburgh. It was Dereck Henry in the
ground game and the Ravens just they rolled on the ground.
And so I think that they we're probably going to
see a steady diet of Derrick Henry in this game
coming up on Sunday. But yeah, so there's a lot
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of frustration in Pittsburgh right now, and the Ravens have
a chance here to take that to create a little
bit of separation in the division. And so but look
that the Steelers and Tomlin, they're also really good about
when their backs are against the wall, the world's against us,
nobody believes in us type stuff coming off of that game.
They also are probably saying the same thing on the
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Steelers podcast today, saying we have an opportunity against the
Ravens to create that separation even though this was a
really disappointing result on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Absolutely, all right, let's take a break.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
We'll come back and talk about some of the other
Ravens news from over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
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Crown is Yours. So one of the stories coming out
of the weekend for the Ravens was a Twitter story.
So Lamar Jackson, a radio host from Pittsburgh, tweeted that
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can we all agree that Lamar Jackson is at least
a little overrated. Lamar replied to that tweet and said,
say less. And then someone else added to the conversation
with his stats before the injuries from this season from
the first four weeks, and Lamar replied to that and said,
you know that this is what the haters wait for.
So there was a little twitter back and forth here,
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and we've seen this before over the years, but a
lot of fans are saying, basically, you poke the bear.
You poke the bear with Lamar Jackson, and not that
he needs any extra added fuel, but making a mad
before Steelers week, it probably doesn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I liked I kind of like to see Lamar clap
back a little bit. We know Lamar is active on
social media. He sees this stuff, and he we also
know that he is a guy who's been fed by
the haters for sure, that he has been motivated that
by that really over his entire football career. And you know,
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he's he's in the midst of a little bit of
a rough stretch right now, and certainly the injuries have
contributed to that, and he's coming off of one of
his toughest games in recent memory. And so I kind
of like him clapping back a little bit, chirping, you.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Know, as I've had some additional time to think about
the game from Thursday, I really actually sound maybe sounds crazy,
but like I can't of it feeling better as time
has gone on, and part of it is the result
of games this weekend but as I like, Lamar was
not at his best in that game. However, like if
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a couple little things go differently, I think we're having
a very different conversation. Like if that ball pops out
of Isaiah Likely's hand one foot later and he's in
the end zone, then it's a touchdown, and we're not
talking about, Hey, Lamar hasn't thrown a touchdown in three
straight games. If that PI call on say Flowers, the
same Flowers doesn't get flagged, then we're not talking about
the same thing. If one of those deep shots to
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tes Walker is completed, then it's a much different conversation,
like that he missed some throws in that game. He
grounded the ball to keep Mitchell on that pass out
to the flat, like he had some misthrows over the
course of the day. Like I'm not disputing that that
those things all happened, but like there were also these
moments where the game could have turned and gone a
different direction. Whether that leads to the Ravens winning the
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game as another conversation, I think it certainly could have,
it would have helped may have resulted in the Ravens
win the game, But I also think it just changes
like the conversation. It changes the stat line, it changes
the narrative, and those are things that like those aren't
drastic swings like we're talking about on the Isaiah likely
play like a foot. If he's a foot further, then
he's into the end zone and it's a touchdown. And
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that's it's a just a much different conversation. So I
think that, like I'm not, I really am not worried
about Lamar being able to operate at a really high
level down the stretch. I think that he's going to
do that, and I think that he's going to play
some of his best football during the month of December.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I think it was an off night. And there are
some weird things to what you're saying. I mean, even
his two fumbles. You know, most of the time, even
when Lamar gets hit from behind as he's trying to
escape pressure, the ball doesn't pop up right into the
other team's hands. And you know, most of the time
when he tries to pull back a throw it that
just slip out of theside of it and just fumbles.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I mean that those were like weird, freakish fumbles. The
second one more than the first. I think the miss
throws was just like, whoa, you don't see that with
Lamar as far as he's come as a passer, Like
that was unusual. But to me, it was just like
just having a rough night and it kind of snowballed. Yeah,
And uh, I don't think that that's some underlying problem.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You know, he was asked about his mechanics afterwards.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
It's like, it's not like his mechanics have gone out
of whack or anything, you know, Like, I think it
was just kind of a it was like a pitcher
who didn't have his curveball that night. You know, he
just kind of lost control a little bit on some throws.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, it was a butcher who didn't have his curveball.
And then like there's some infield singles and an overthrow
and like basically like a bunch of other weird things
that went wrong that led to the final result. Right,
that makes it All of those things like by themselves,
they're not major things, but when they're when they're when
they're totaled up together, and then it just leads to
this like disappointing result.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Everything went wrong.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, and then the narrative grows of like bad night
struggling the last few games. Not the same.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, I mean I think that there's it's fair to
say like this offense hasn't performed really to a very
high level in quite some time, you know, So I
agree with you. I think Lamar is gonna absolutely play
better than he did Thursday night. That's not gonna be
the norm by any stretch. I think the question is, though,
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like they need to get better at some of these
these fundamental things that have dogged them now for an
extended period of time. It's it's the question is how
much was that one bad night or how much as
like the Ravens offense is kind of off.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, right, I.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Agree Lamar is gonna play better, Like is he going
to play to that like really high level that you
were talking about, Like I hope so you know what
I mean, But we haven't seen that for a little
bit now, and so I have confidence that he can.
But like some things need to improve, not just with Lamar,
I think with the offense in general.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Right, there's kind of like the Lamar convers station. Wait,
and obviously he's where you start the conversation about the offense,
and then there's the overall offense conversation.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
And Lamar is the center of the offense. So like
when Lamar's not playing you know, MVP level football, like
we are so accustomed to seeing, that hurts the offense
as a whole. And then there's other pieces that aren't
helping him out right and helping him be at his best.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Certainly, it's it's it's all, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
We all sit here and try to play armchair you know, doctor,
and and diagnose what's going on and and say, well,
what's the biggest problems.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What is the problem?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Well, there's a number of issues, and you got to
correct things and get better across multiple fronts. And Lamar's
part of that, you know. And and getting feeding Derrick
Henry and keeping him active I think is going to
be a big part of that down the stretch here.
I do think the whole Lamar or Derek Henry didn't
get enough. Kerry's narrative is overblown. And when the Ravens
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are winning and playing good football generally, Carrie's come along
with with getting more first downs and all those things right,
And you're not in second and ten when you're not
going to handle a ball off.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
And so.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I think across the board and I'm sure that's what
we're gonna hear this week from John Harball and Todd
Monkind and Ravens players, is like, we got to improve
across the board.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, I think they Given the conversation we just had
about the Steelers on their offense and some of the
struggles they've had on the Steelers on their defense and
some of the struggles they had there, and the success
the Ravens had on the ground against the Steelers late
last season, I think that on Sunday we're not going
to be having a conversation about man Derek Henry didn't
get the ball enough. Like, I don't think that that's
gonna be one of the talking points coming out of
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the game for two reasons. One, I think the Ravens
are going to be focused and committed to that. I
also think that they're gonna have success doing it, so
like success breathe especially more opportunities not out there that
Patrick Queen's lot out there. And the one other note
we didn't talk about this in the immediate postgame pod,
just a little minor note coming out of the game,
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the Ravens did shake up the offense line a little bit.
Emory Jones made his NFL debut, rotated at left guard
with Andrew Voorhees. Saw sixteen snaps, so it wasn't like
it was a huge workload for him. But and he
had a holding penalty on one of those on one
of those snaps, so it wasn't like a totally clean
debut for him. But I know Ravens Sans have been
excited about the possiblity of gett him out there on
the field and seeing him. We saw that, and Ronnie
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Stanley talked after the game how he feels like he
was impressed by Emory and he showed that he can
play in this league. So I think that's a curious one.
Will we see will those will that rotation continue, will
they increase? Could Emory end up taking that spot? All
up in the air, but he has entered into the
mix there on the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, that and I think that it bears pointing out.
You know, raven Stans have been talking about when are
they going to make a change. When are they going
to make the change? They made the change at left guard,
you know what I mean? Yeah, that's where they identified
we need to shake things up a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And I think it bears mentioning.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Daniel Fololeles had the fifth highest grade of anybody on
the Ravens offense coming out of that Bengals game, and
he's strung together two of his better games. He had
a particularly high run block and grade. I think it
was his highest run blocking grade of the season against
the Bengals. That's really good news. If he can kind
of elevate his level of play, especially blocking, you know,
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running lanes, creating run links for Derrick Henry as we
get into December Bowl, I think that's going to be important.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Final note that I have just coming out of the
weekend and the game on Thursday. As I watched the league,
a takeaway that I had is more than any other year.
It seems like this thing is anybody's ball game. And
by the thing, I mean the Super Bowl, Lombardi Trophy,
the path, like all that stuff is up for grabs,
like there's not one dominant team in either conference. The
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usual suspects that were used to seeing in the mix.
At one point this weekend before the Steelers played the
Ravens were on the outside looking into the playoffs. The
Chiefs were on the outside looking at of the playoffs.
The Bengals were on the outside looking in. So like
you have Burrow, Mahomes and Lamar who at one point
this weekend were all not in playoff conversation, right, And
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so it's just not the teams that you're used to seeing.
It's Denver in New England leading the way in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It's Jacksonville's leading in the AFC South.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Who would have thought these would be your division, your
division leaders in the AFC, New England, Baltimore. Of course
you expect that, Yeah, Jacksonville and Denver.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, not many people. And then and then you go
to the NFC. The Bears are your top team in
the NFC. They've they're the number one seed right now.
And by the way, the Bears have three losses. One
of those losses came to the Ravens with Tyler Huntley
as a starting quarterback. Right, So, like that loss or
that win for the Ravens, Like I know, when people
when that schedule came out, everyone just chalk that up
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as an easy win. And then even and then even
at that point, coming out of the by Ravens fans
are like, man, this is a game, you gotta win,
gotta win gotta win. It's at home, doesn't matter who's
as a quarterback. That's an incredibly impressive win to get
that victory. Sure like it just gets better by the
week when you consider that they got that done without
Lamar Jackson on the field. The Rams, a lot of
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people felt like they were the Super Bowl favorites. They
lose yesterday to the Carolina Panthers. The Eagles have been
really struggling. They lose on Black Friday to the Dallas Cowboys.
So like, there is not one team that is the
best in the league, hands down, the Broncos. Sunday night,
they go up against the Commanders who are three to
eight with the backup quarterback. That game goes to overtime
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and gets decided on a two point conversion play. Like
it is wide open, and we always say getting the
dance and anything can happen. I feel like, as much
as any other year, that is definitely the case.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
For the NFL. You know me, I'm a dancer. I
always say just getting.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
The dance, getting the dance and anything could happen. And
I feel like, again more than any other year, it
seems like that's the case.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
So the Ravens are gonna work on putting their dance
is shoes on. That's right, But they just have to
make sure that they take care of business these final
five games of the regular seasons. So as always, you
can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL
dot net. We love getting those emails. Thank you so
much for listening. We'll talk with you again Laier this week.
Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here
with Garrett Downing and we are going to check in
following the Ravens mini buy over the Thanksgiving weekend. The
Ravens at six and six, coming off a tough loss
to Cincinnati Bengals. Five games left, and Garrett, we are
entering December football.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is when things get cold and heat up football.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Well done, well given, Yeah, I think as as everyone
was reeling after the game on Thanksgiving, the loss of
the Bengals and and that kind of spoiled Thanksgiving for
Ravens fans, you go into the weekend and it offers
a chance for the team to have a little mini buy,
as you mentioned, which I think is always beneficial at
this time of the year. That's one of my favorite
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things about Thursday Night football is that you get the
back end of that, especially nice if you win and
you can just enjoy the rest of the weekend well.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And it's especially nice for the Ravens considering they had
an earlier by this year. Yeah, you know, past two
years it was a very late by, which was nice
before that December stretch run. Now they kind of get
a mini bi before that run.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
My big takeaway coming out of the game on Thursday
and then watching the games this weekend is week thirteen
for the Ravens. It just didn't exist. Just scratch it
off the schedule. It didn't exist because we were all
disappointed after that game on Thursday night, and you're just like,
you're mad. You had this opportunity and you lose to
a team that you were favorite to beat, and there's
frustration around that you didn't look good doing it. It
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just was not the night or the result that anybody expected.
But then, as we're going to talk about, the Steelers
lose to the Bills on Sunday and the Ravens are
right back where they were at the beginning of the week.
And so like for all of the hand ringing, which
I understand, like the disappointment and the frustration in that game,
the Ravens are right back where they started the week,
and so week thirteen, erase it from your memory. Do
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the men in black thing get out the pen, Just
erase it from your memory.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Then I don't even know what what is that called.
It's like a magic eraser wand yeah, the one.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Some of the younger listeners will not know the Men
in Black reference. You have to go back and check
out that movie. But basically that's the treatment that I'm
putting towards that game from Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, I agree, And fans around the AFC North are
not feeling great, except for Bengals fans.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I guess they're the only ones coming off of a win.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But in Pittsburgh, you know, they lost to the Bills
twenty six to seven, and it was ugly on their part,
and the Steelers have really been reeling. They lost the
Bears before that, they beat the Bengals, but I mean
they have lost three of their last four and so
and it goes back further than that, you know, in
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terms of them playing not winning football, and so they're
not feeling great about their chances right now. The Ravens
are favored currently to win the AFC North.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I think you have the odds on that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Right now. The ESPN prediction here in terms of winning
the AFC North, the Ravens have a fifty eight percent chance,
the Steelers a thirty five percent chance, and the Bengals
have entered the chat at a seven percent chance to
win the AFC North. Honestly, just looking at the division
like this is not what we're used to seeing. This
is typically one of the best divisions of football, but
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with multiple teams that are either either in the playoffs
or contending to be in the playoffs. Last year, two
teams made it with the Bengals knocking on the door.
This year looks like it's only going to be one
team as it stands right now, and so it's it's
a little bit of a different scenario when it comes
to the AFC North. But yeah, like the truth is,
we all wanted the Ravens to beat the Bengals, of course,
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of course, of course, but we also knew that it
was going to come down to the Ravens playing well
against the Steelers and beating them. Like, even if the
Ravens had won last week, this game against the Steelers
would still have incredibly important playoff implications like that it
was always going to come down to, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You need to knock the Bengals out. You need to
deliver the knockout blow to the bank.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
You would like them to just remove from the conversation, That's.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Correct, I would like I would prefer as you said,
they entered the chat Eves kind of left the door
creaked open for them. Now, don't the Ravens get another
shot at him in Cincinnati here in two weeks. But
but yes, the Steelers, that's who the Ravens are tied
with for first place. And so there's a lot of
AFC North football left to be played. Three more games,
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two against Steelers, one against Cincinnati, and the Ravens need
to win at least two of the three, have to
and to be the to be the AFC North champion,
you got to beat the other AFC North teams. That's
what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And so let's just look ahead what the road to
the division crown looks like for the Ravens, which, by
the way, would be a third straight for the Ravens,
which has never been done. All Right, So the Ravens
remaining five games at home against the Steelers at Bengals
versus the Patriots at M and T Bank Stadium, at
Packers at Steelers. So that's a that's a challenging December
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that they're going to have here, I mean, two against
the Steelers, that's, like I said, going to largely determine
THEFC North and then you have the Patriots, who are
first place the number one seed right now in the AFC,
and then at Lambeau against a good Packers team.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
This is a really tough schedule for the Ravens to
finish things out here, considering the AFC North piece of it,
and then the Again, then you're playing playing the best
team in the conference of standings wise in the Patriots,
and then a road game in Lambo on Christmas weekend
against a team that they're going to be obviously fighting
for playoff implications as well. There, so really tough schedule.
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The Steelers, though, is not really a walk in the
park either. They have played with the Ravens waye. The
Steelers remaining schedule is at Ravens versus the Dolphins at Detroit,
who they're going to be certainly playing for their their
playoff lives, then at Cleveland at Baltimore, So I don't
think it's as challenging, but it's not a cakewalk either.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And just for a good measure, Dolphins have been playing
a little bit better football recently.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
They have.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And then just I'll give you the Bengals schedule here
they are at Bills, then Ravens, then at Dolphins, Cardinals,
brown So in terms of the three teams, they have
the softest schedule remaining with games coming up against the Browns, Cardinals, Dolphins. Again,
Ravens Bills is not by any any means. So it's
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kind of funny for Ravens fans.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And the Bengals basically have to win out or close
to it.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, it's tough to know what's going to get it
done in the in the AFC North, to be honest,
is it is it ten wins? Is it nine? Is
it nine and eight? Does that get the division with
tiebreakers scenario?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I have a hard time believing that eight and nine
gets in. Okay, So yeah, so the Bengals can afford
one more loss if they're if they lose one more,
the best they can finish is eight and nine. Yeah,
and I have a tough time thing I would I
agree with you that. Now, if if they beat the Ravens,
uh and maybe because of tiebreakers, maybe if they if
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they finished tied with us and they beat us twice,
then they could get in on a tie breakers, right
and they've already played the Steelers twice. They split with
the Steelers, right, and so it's possible. Yeah, But unlikely.
I would say, I think that whoever finishes nine to
eight has a pretty good shot, and.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I think there could be multiple teams at nine and eight.
I think that that's at nine and eight, I think
you're probably looking at a tie breaker scenario in order
to probably win that division. And I ironic thing here is,
obviously Ravens fans are cheering on the Bills on Sunday
going up against the Steelers, keep the keep the Bills
gear on this week after the Ravens game, because it's
it's you want the you want the Bills to take
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down the Bengals in this game too. It's like just
interesting having these back to back games against Buffalo and
for a team that, like a lot of Ravens fans
don't like to see do well. That's not been to
Casey's last two games.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But I think that this weekend's slate of action also
did hammer home the point that this is this is
about all about the AFC North and winning the AFC
North because the road the wild card road for the Ravens.
I think that that door is closing, and you look
at the standings right now. If the season were to
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end today, the Ravens would be in the playoffs because
of their conference and division tiebreaker over the Steelers. But
the three teams that would be in as wildcard right now,
teams would be the Chargers, the Colts, and the Bills.
All three are eight and four, So those three wildcard
teams have a two game lead on the Ravens, and
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the Ravens lost to the Bills head to head. The
Ravens have a worse conference record than the Colts and
the Chargers. They're three games back of the Chargers three
in the wing column at least, and even the number
eight team, the team that's on the outside looking in
are the Houston Texans seven to five, so they're one
game ahead of the Ravens and have a tiebreaker head
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to head against the Ravens. So to me, it's all
eyes on the AFC North Crown.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Which it's kind of obvious here, but like that's the
path that you prefer. You prefer to win the division,
you get home game, you had those benefits to go
along with being for sure being and so the Ravens
our beneficiaries this year of the division being down from
a standing standpoint. Again, most years we're talking about two
or three teams getting in this year, we're probably talking
about one team from the AFC North getting in. And
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you win the division, you get that home playoff game,
and you're set up in a pretty good spot there.
But and like, look, the Ravens aren't sitting here saying like, hey,
look we only you know, we only need to win
two or three more here. No, the Ravens are going
to be going week by week saying the playoffs start now.
We Like that's the mentality that they've been in, honestly
for the last month since coming back from their bye.
They won those five straight games, and and like, I
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go back and I look at it like if when
the Ravens were one and five, and I'm not like,
I again acknowledge the disappointment of Thursday night, but when
the Ravens were one and five, if someone had offered
you six and six, would you take it? I think
most Ravens fans would be like, yeah, sign me up
for six and six. We're in the hut, right, You're
very much in the hits. Like again, you're one of five,
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flash forward to six and six. I'm there, like, just
sign on the dotted line at that point. And so
like now, when you're in the moment and you have
a chance to go seven to five, you don't want
to hear about six and six. But like so all
that said, I think that the Ravens are in a
relatively good spot. They obviously control their own destiny. They're
gonna play the Steelers here twice down the stretch, with
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an opportunity to deliver a knockout blow there to the
Bengals in two weeks. If the Ravens take care of
their own business, they're gonna be AFC North champs. And
they have the clear path to do that. And I
think that they're set up for success to do that.
But they have to go do it. That's the thing
they have to. Like just because you're the favorite right
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now and they have the fifty eight percent chance to win,
that doesn't mean you get crowned anything. You have to
go out there and do it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Absolutely, Steelers coming into this weekend's game, it is it is.
It's not bright, it's not sunny. This morning in Pittsburgh.
They put up one hundred and sixty six total yards
against the Bills. They had ten first downs to the
Bills twenty six. I mean, rough performance over there, Aaron
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Rodgers is criticizing wide receivers for not showing up to meetings.
Cam Hayward's beefing with Josh Allen. Patrick Queen suffered a
hip injury and didn't return. He was ruled out for
the remainder of that game. We'll see if he plays
against the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Like they got some issues over there really on both
sides of the ball. The offense didn't do much of
anything against Buffalo. Aaron Rodgers left the game for a
period of time after getting crushed by Joey Bosa on
a strip sack that Buffalo returned. I mean his nose,
Like he's got a massive cut on his nose. After
the game, he's playing with his left hand fractured in
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a cast. Like Aaron Rodgers is banged up right now.
Mason Rudolph came in for a period of that game,
and like there's just a lot of frustration in Pittsburgh
a lot. It goes back for a couple of years,
I think, based on the way go back to the
last season. They started those year really strong, faded down
the stretch and as you mentioned, they've lost three out
of four games. That game was in Pittsburgh yesterday. The
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Bills ran away with it in the second half and
by the fourth quarter, Pittsburgh fans were booing renegade when
they played it in the stadium, and so like it was,
there's a lot of frustration there in Pittsgh.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Bills ran for two hundred and forty nine yards. It
was Pittsburgh run defense has been rough, it.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Has it has and if you remember, and we're going
to talk about matchup stuff of the course of this week,
but that was the Ravens key to success in that
playoff game against Pittsburgh. It was Dereck Henry in the
ground game and the Ravens just they rolled on the ground.
And so I think that they we're probably going to
see a steady diet of Derrick Henry in this game
coming up on Sunday. But yeah, so there's a lot
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of frustration in Pittsburgh right now, and the Ravens have
a chance here to take that to create a little
bit of separation in the division. And so but look
that the Steelers and Tomlin, they're also really good about
when their backs are against the wall, the world's against us,
nobody believes in us type stuff coming off of that game.
They also are probably saying the same thing on the
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Steelers podcast today, saying we have an opportunity against the
Ravens to create that separation even though this was a
really disappointing result on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Absolutely, all right, let's take a break.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
We'll come back and talk about some of the other
Ravens news from over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
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Crown is Yours. So one of the stories coming out
of the weekend for the Ravens was a Twitter story.
So Lamar Jackson, a radio host from Pittsburgh, tweeted that
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can we all agree that Lamar Jackson is at least
a little overrated. Lamar replied to that tweet and said,
say less. And then someone else added to the conversation
with his stats before the injuries from this season from
the first four weeks, and Lamar replied to that and said,
you know that this is what the haters wait for.
So there was a little twitter back and forth here,
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and we've seen this before over the years, but a
lot of fans are saying, basically, you poke the bear.
You poke the bear with Lamar Jackson, and not that
he needs any extra added fuel, but making a mad
before Steelers week, it probably doesn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I liked I kind of like to see Lamar clap
back a little bit. We know Lamar is active on
social media. He sees this stuff, and he we also
know that he is a guy who's been fed by
the haters for sure, that he has been motivated that
by that really over his entire football career. And you know,
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he's he's in the midst of a little bit of
a rough stretch right now, and certainly the injuries have
contributed to that, and he's coming off of one of
his toughest games in recent memory. And so I kind
of like him clapping back a little bit, chirping, you.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Know, as I've had some additional time to think about
the game from Thursday, I really actually sound maybe sounds crazy,
but like I can't of it feeling better as time
has gone on, and part of it is the result
of games this weekend but as I like, Lamar was
not at his best in that game. However, like if
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a couple little things go differently, I think we're having
a very different conversation. Like if that ball pops out
of Isaiah Likely's hand one foot later and he's in
the end zone, then it's a touchdown, and we're not
talking about, Hey, Lamar hasn't thrown a touchdown in three
straight games. If that PI call on say Flowers, the
same Flowers doesn't get flagged, then we're not talking about
the same thing. If one of those deep shots to
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tes Walker is completed, then it's a much different conversation,
like that he missed some throws in that game. He
grounded the ball to keep Mitchell on that pass out
to the flat, like he had some misthrows over the
course of the day. Like I'm not disputing that that
those things all happened, but like there were also these
moments where the game could have turned and gone a
different direction. Whether that leads to the Ravens winning the
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game as another conversation, I think it certainly could have,
it would have helped may have resulted in the Ravens
win the game, But I also think it just changes
like the conversation. It changes the stat line, it changes
the narrative, and those are things that like those aren't
drastic swings like we're talking about on the Isaiah likely
play like a foot. If he's a foot further, then
he's into the end zone and it's a touchdown. And
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that's it's a just a much different conversation. So I
think that, like I'm not, I really am not worried
about Lamar being able to operate at a really high
level down the stretch. I think that he's going to
do that, and I think that he's going to play
some of his best football during the month of December.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I think it was an off night. And there are
some weird things to what you're saying. I mean, even
his two fumbles. You know, most of the time, even
when Lamar gets hit from behind as he's trying to
escape pressure, the ball doesn't pop up right into the
other team's hands. And you know, most of the time
when he tries to pull back a throw it that
just slip out of theside of it and just fumbles.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I mean that those were like weird, freakish fumbles. The
second one more than the first. I think the miss
throws was just like, whoa, you don't see that with
Lamar as far as he's come as a passer, Like
that was unusual. But to me, it was just like
just having a rough night and it kind of snowballed. Yeah,
And uh, I don't think that that's some underlying problem.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You know, he was asked about his mechanics afterwards.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
It's like, it's not like his mechanics have gone out
of whack or anything, you know, Like, I think it
was just kind of a it was like a pitcher
who didn't have his curveball that night. You know, he
just kind of lost control a little bit on some throws.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, it was a butcher who didn't have his curveball.
And then like there's some infield singles and an overthrow
and like basically like a bunch of other weird things
that went wrong that led to the final result. Right,
that makes it All of those things like by themselves,
they're not major things, but when they're when they're when
they're totaled up together, and then it just leads to
this like disappointing result.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Everything went wrong.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, and then the narrative grows of like bad night
struggling the last few games. Not the same.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, I mean I think that there's it's fair to
say like this offense hasn't performed really to a very
high level in quite some time, you know, So I
agree with you. I think Lamar is gonna absolutely play
better than he did Thursday night. That's not gonna be
the norm by any stretch. I think the question is, though,
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like they need to get better at some of these
these fundamental things that have dogged them now for an
extended period of time. It's it's the question is how
much was that one bad night or how much as
like the Ravens offense is kind of off.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, right, I.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Agree Lamar is gonna play better, Like is he going
to play to that like really high level that you
were talking about, Like I hope so you know what
I mean, But we haven't seen that for a little
bit now, and so I have confidence that he can.
But like some things need to improve, not just with Lamar,
I think with the offense in general.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Right, there's kind of like the Lamar convers station. Wait,
and obviously he's where you start the conversation about the offense,
and then there's the overall offense conversation.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
And Lamar is the center of the offense. So like
when Lamar's not playing you know, MVP level football, like
we are so accustomed to seeing, that hurts the offense
as a whole. And then there's other pieces that aren't
helping him out right and helping him be at his best.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Certainly, it's it's it's all, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
We all sit here and try to play armchair you know, doctor,
and and diagnose what's going on and and say, well,
what's the biggest problems.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What is the problem?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Well, there's a number of issues, and you got to
correct things and get better across multiple fronts. And Lamar's
part of that, you know. And and getting feeding Derrick
Henry and keeping him active I think is going to
be a big part of that down the stretch here.
I do think the whole Lamar or Derek Henry didn't
get enough. Kerry's narrative is overblown. And when the Ravens
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are winning and playing good football generally, Carrie's come along
with with getting more first downs and all those things right,
And you're not in second and ten when you're not
going to handle a ball off.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
And so.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I think across the board and I'm sure that's what
we're gonna hear this week from John Harball and Todd
Monkind and Ravens players, is like, we got to improve
across the board.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, I think they Given the conversation we just had
about the Steelers on their offense and some of the
struggles they've had on the Steelers on their defense and
some of the struggles they had there, and the success
the Ravens had on the ground against the Steelers late
last season, I think that on Sunday we're not going
to be having a conversation about man Derek Henry didn't
get the ball enough. Like, I don't think that that's
gonna be one of the talking points coming out of
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the game for two reasons. One, I think the Ravens
are going to be focused and committed to that. I
also think that they're gonna have success doing it, so
like success breathe especially more opportunities not out there that
Patrick Queen's lot out there. And the one other note
we didn't talk about this in the immediate postgame pod,
just a little minor note coming out of the game,
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the Ravens did shake up the offense line a little bit.
Emory Jones made his NFL debut, rotated at left guard
with Andrew Voorhees. Saw sixteen snaps, so it wasn't like
it was a huge workload for him. But and he
had a holding penalty on one of those on one
of those snaps, so it wasn't like a totally clean
debut for him. But I know Ravens Sans have been
excited about the possiblity of gett him out there on
the field and seeing him. We saw that, and Ronnie
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Stanley talked after the game how he feels like he
was impressed by Emory and he showed that he can
play in this league. So I think that's a curious one.
Will we see will those will that rotation continue, will
they increase? Could Emory end up taking that spot? All
up in the air, but he has entered into the
mix there on the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, that and I think that it bears pointing out.
You know, raven Stans have been talking about when are
they going to make a change. When are they going
to make the change? They made the change at left guard,
you know what I mean? Yeah, that's where they identified
we need to shake things up a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And I think it bears mentioning.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Daniel Fololeles had the fifth highest grade of anybody on
the Ravens offense coming out of that Bengals game, and
he's strung together two of his better games. He had
a particularly high run block and grade. I think it
was his highest run blocking grade of the season against
the Bengals. That's really good news. If he can kind
of elevate his level of play, especially blocking, you know,
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running lanes, creating run links for Derrick Henry as we
get into December Bowl, I think that's going to be important.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Final note that I have just coming out of the
weekend and the game on Thursday. As I watched the league,
a takeaway that I had is more than any other year.
It seems like this thing is anybody's ball game. And
by the thing, I mean the Super Bowl, Lombardi Trophy,
the path, like all that stuff is up for grabs,
like there's not one dominant team in either conference. The
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usual suspects that were used to seeing in the mix.
At one point this weekend before the Steelers played the
Ravens were on the outside looking into the playoffs. The
Chiefs were on the outside looking at of the playoffs.
The Bengals were on the outside looking in. So like
you have Burrow, Mahomes and Lamar who at one point
this weekend were all not in playoff conversation, right, And
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so it's just not the teams that you're used to seeing.
It's Denver in New England leading the way in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It's Jacksonville's leading in the AFC South.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Who would have thought these would be your division, your
division leaders in the AFC, New England, Baltimore. Of course
you expect that, Yeah, Jacksonville and Denver.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, not many people. And then and then you go
to the NFC. The Bears are your top team in
the NFC. They've they're the number one seed right now.
And by the way, the Bears have three losses. One
of those losses came to the Ravens with Tyler Huntley
as a starting quarterback. Right, So, like that loss or
that win for the Ravens, Like I know, when people
when that schedule came out, everyone just chalk that up
(23:48):
as an easy win. And then even and then even
at that point, coming out of the by Ravens fans
are like, man, this is a game, you gotta win,
gotta win gotta win. It's at home, doesn't matter who's
as a quarterback. That's an incredibly impressive win to get
that victory. Sure like it just gets better by the
week when you consider that they got that done without
Lamar Jackson on the field. The Rams, a lot of
(24:10):
people felt like they were the Super Bowl favorites. They
lose yesterday to the Carolina Panthers. The Eagles have been
really struggling. They lose on Black Friday to the Dallas Cowboys.
So like, there is not one team that is the
best in the league, hands down, the Broncos. Sunday night,
they go up against the Commanders who are three to
eight with the backup quarterback. That game goes to overtime
(24:30):
and gets decided on a two point conversion play. Like
it is wide open, and we always say getting the
dance and anything can happen. I feel like, as much
as any other year, that is definitely the case.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
For the NFL. You know me, I'm a dancer. I
always say just getting.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
The dance, getting the dance and anything could happen. And
I feel like, again more than any other year, it
seems like that's the case.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
So the Ravens are gonna work on putting their dance
is shoes on. That's right, But they just have to
make sure that they take care of business these final
five games of the regular seasons. So as always, you
can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL
dot net. We love getting those emails. Thank you so
much for listening. We'll talk with you again Laier this week.
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