September 8, 2025 • 13 mins
Team insiders Ryan Mink and Garrett Downing discuss the Ravens' 41-40 loss to the Buffalo Bills at Highmark Stadium to kick off the season.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan mink
here with Garrett Downing after a difficult forty one to
forty loss for the Baltimore Ravens in Week one against
the Buffalo Bills. This is a tough one to swallow, Garrett. Obviously,
Ravens are up forty twenty five, looks like they're in
control of this game. Derek Henry fumble changes the complexion
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of this game. The Bills and Josh Allen come roaring
back for the win.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, this is a game that in a lot of ways,
you just felt like the Ravens had I think a
lot of Ravens fans watching this game. In the fourth quarter,
you're kind of celebrating, You're up fifteen points.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
There's a ridiculous phil Jeffia was emptying out.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Of the stagium.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, a lot of fans were leaving. You have that
crazy DeAndre Hopkins touchdown late, you have the long Derek
Henry run, and you just feel like, all right, this
thing is done.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
It's kind of settled.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
The offense was virtually unstoppable for almost the entire night,
and then you have that crazy fourth down touchdown that
the Buffalo has tip pass completion in the back of
the end zone, then the Henry fumble, and then things
just really turned and.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It's a it's a difficult loss.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I just feel like this is a game that it's
it's so disappointing for a lot of different reasons. For me,
the biggest thing is like it felt like a game
where there were so many things that went right. It
felt like there was a game that like there was
so much to celebrate and be excited about and come
away with feeling like man, awesome way to open the season,
and instead you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It's the same story.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's the same story from the playoffs. Is you know,
you feel like you you outplay them and then you
shoot yourself in the foot with a costly turnover at
exactly the wrong fourth quarter turn. Yeah, I mean that's
what stings is. You just you know, when are the
Ravens gonna stop doing this themselves? They're a great team
in many ways, but when you keep shooting yourself in
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the foot, you have losses.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Like this, And that's kind of what Kyle Hamilton say.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You know, he talked after the game and he made
the point that, like we're talking about doing all the
right things, but we're having the same result and we
need to figure out why that is. And like the
truth is, no one has as like the answer. That's
kind of the question, Like everyone's getting asked that same question,
like why does this keep happening? Or what's the theme
or what's the trend or how do you stop it?
And like there's there's not a magic fix.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Right, Derrick Henry is not a guy that usually has
pumbling problems. Right, Derrick Henry had outside of the fumble,
an awesome game. I mean ran for one hundred and
sixty nine yards and two touchdowns. Dereck Henry is a
major reason why the Ravens were in position to win
this game.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, you feel like coming out of this before that point,
you feel like the Ravens are in a situation where
it's like Derek Henry is one of the stars of
the game. Oh absolutely, I think people are people are
getting ready that he's going to be doing the interview
on Satday Night Football after the game, after an excellent game,
and so it's it's that's what I'm talking about when
you feel like, man like that he's a perfect example
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awesome game in so many ways, but then has the
misque at a really bad time, and Derek Henry said
after the game and talking with reporters, he said, I
put this loss on me. He said, he told the
team that he told the team that he said, I
put the loss on me, that he needs to take
better care of the football, and so he took clear
accountability on it. And on the flip side, Lamar Jackson
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said he also told Derek basically, don't put the loss
on you. You had a great game in a lot of ways.
And so, you know, Henry's taking accountability and certainly as
teammates are not piling on in any way.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, yeah, I mean what's tough is you know, Mark
Andrews is a major reason why the Ravens got as
far as they did last year. And then he, you know,
has the fourth quarter fumble in the drop. You know,
it's sometimes it's even your best players, you know, And
that's that's the tough pill to swallow for the Ravens.
You know, It's it's hard to fault the offense. They
scored forty points, yeah right, and yeah, that's a brutal
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turnover at a brutal time in the game, and and yeah,
I'm sure the Ravens' final offensive sequence will be nitpicked
for what could they have They needed to pick up
one first down to win the game and they didn't,
and and I'm sure that will be nitpicked. But you know,
you scored forty points at the end of the day
against a pretty darn good defense in their place.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, and so it's tough.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, And that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The offense, like, up until really the end of the
fourth quarter, it was unstoppable. I mean they were scoring
mostly touchdowns with a couple of field goals sprinkled in,
but they were scoring on every single drive. It seem
like they scored on their first five drives, didn't get
stopped the entire first half, and then that really continued
in the second half up until that point where things
kind of went off the rails in the fourth quarter unexpectedly.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And it just.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And that's the thing like for the defense, you know,
going back to Hamilton, he made the point that like
the defense, the secondary obviously opened last season has struggled
and it's a similar thing right now. And Hamilton said, like, look,
the offense scored forty points. He made the same point.
You just did offense scored forty points. Never should have
even been in this situation. When you get forty points,
the defense feels like, the team feels like that's good
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enough to win, right. You shouldn't really be in a
situation where you need to get a stop and stop
for two point conversions at the end of the game.
It should just be handled at that situation. And that's
the way the Ravens come out of here feeling, and
the defense leading the way in that conversation too.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I think defensively the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
The funny part is is like I felt like for
most of the game they were kind of executing the
game plan making Josh Allen get rid of the ball.
There's a lot of short completions they were doing. They
were doing fine, Like it wasn't a shutdown performance. They
weren't getting it. You know, Josh Allen gets rid of
the ball so quickly. A lot of times it's like, well,
they're not getting a lot of pressure. Well, their offense
is designed for him in large part to get rid
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of the ball, and then sometimes he just pulls a
rabbit out of his hat. I mean, I can it would.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Take two He played touchdown was a rabbit out of
the hat.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The fourth down touchdown was a rabbit. I mean the
fourth down prayer that got a DPI called was also
a rabbit out of a hat. I mean, if that
pass doesn't falls in complete, it's a different game too.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Like, I mean they just and then he played. He
was Josh Allen down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
He made some awesome throws and plays down the stretch,
like he got hot. The Ravens defense was on its
heels and they took advantage, and just the momentum flipped
and that was kind of all she wrote right for
this defense, Like, obviously it has to be a better
defensive performance than this. Forty one points isn't gonna cut
it again. You know, you didn't get a takeaway. You know,
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malco I had one in his gut on the first drive.
You know there were opportunities. They didn't get any takeaways for
a defense to talk to all off season about how
it needs to get more takeaways. Again, Josh Allen and
this offense are pretty darn good and they do a
good job taking care of the ball. So take that
context for what it's worth. YEA, Like, but you gave
up forty one points. Yeah, and there's no part of
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this defense that feels like that's acceptable.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, the takeaway, sure, it would have been nice to
get one.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I think the biggest thing is given up that many
points is just something that's not that's not a recipe
for success. And you know, Jaire Alexander's the guy that
Ravens signed this offseason. He dealt with injuries and training camp,
came back this week, practice throughout the week. You know,
certainly the second half not the second half that he
but he wanted. And tough assignment again going up against
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a great quarterback and explosive offense.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
But so it's a tough assignment, you.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Know, for him, and and you know the Bills were
able to capitalize.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's just you know, it's just these costly let downs
in critical moments and that and that's really the part
offensively and defensively that like the Ravens have just been
stressing all off season, like that's that's.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Where this team needs to get, needs to get. You know,
they're they're talented enough.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
We spent the whole offseason talking about how they have
the best roster and like this unbelievable offense that was
number one in the league last year, and you know.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'm writing up the story. Hey, this is what happens.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You get forty points when you don't make mistakes and
you have the explosive playmakers the Ravens have, and then
boom mistake.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
You know, but like both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I mean, you look at the end of the first half, right,
I mean you let them drive down again sort of fluky,
they put a second back on the clock and give
them a field goal opportunity. Hey, that's pretty big three
points when you look at a forty one to forty
final score. Yeah, Like, just this a crazy amount of
crazy things.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And and if you're.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I feel like sometimes we in the media like rush
to try to find a theme and try to like
cause you're trying to wrap your head around this, like
when it keeps happening and you're like, what's the theme?
What keeps happening? And sometimes there just isn't an easy
answer like that. It's just like, if there is an
easy answer, it is like these critical moments, the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Have to be the ones to make the play.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That's the thing that I like the theme as much
as I can see. It is the critical moments one
like the end of half situation, but it's.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Also like like the Derrick Henry moment that was like
any other run in the game that wasn't a critical moment.
At that point you're leading by fifteen, Like you have
to make the plays in the critical moment. And then
you also can't shoot yourself in the foot.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
The Henry fumble was at that point. It was an
eight point game, and they fumble at that point. And
so like you're in a situation where you just need
to run clock and you end up fumbling in that
situation and obviously deep in your own part of the
field when you're just trying to run clock in that situation, right,
So like to me that that that is the critical
moment of the game example, And like, yeah, I just
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I just I think that's it. So I think that
like end of half, end of game situations, you need
a first down, couldn't get it. John Hartwooll did say
on that fourth and three situation he considered going for it,
but Lamar talked with the media and said he was
cramping up at that time and really wasn't even in
position to go for it. And so now so I
don't know if that was why they ultimately made that.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Decision, but that was a factor.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And and and also Harball made the point that like
in that spot, in that situation, yes you can go
for it, but if you don't get it, you're basically
just giving them the ball and field goal range at
that situation, and so punting it is in a lot
of way, it didn't work out, but it's hard to
fault that decision.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
The other you know, there's like so many things in
this game that if it just it's so close and
it it flips the other way. I mean, the down
punt that goes in for a touchback guy Trenton Simpson's
glove is like a centimeter over. If they take the
ball at the one inch line there, that drive probably
doesn't result in a scoring drive for the Bills.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Well, honestly, the thing that comes to my mind if
you're talking about a game of inches, Kyle Hamilton was
sick after this game because he came inches away of
blocking that final field goal. I mean, he was right there.
It's like when you look back at the replay of
that one and he still doesn't even watching the game.
He's like, I don't know how I didn't get my
hand on that ball, like it just it.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Was he thought he had it, and so that would
have won the game.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And like that one just slipping by has had him
sick after the game. He also made the point that
like when he saw in the scoreboard that Josh Allen
had like four hundred passing yards, he almost threw up
on the field. But that one in particular, that game
of inches piece, like he almost had that block there.
And a lot of times that's what it's coming down to.
It's like, can you can you come up with some
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crazy play or moment at these critical situations.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
The Bills did tonight.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
They get the deflective touchdown in that situation, they are
able to march at the end of the game on offense,
and it's just like they were able to come up
with some crazy plays and then also just good execution
from a great quarterback.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, it's just it's painful.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
You watch the rest of the games around the NFL.
You know, you're the Sunday night football game. You get
a chance to watch the other games around the NFL.
You watch the division rivals, and like, you know, they
get these luck, they get these breaks at the end
of the games and you're like, of course, of course
that happens.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It's like when when are the Ravens going to get
these breaks?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's just you got to have to make your own
to make your own exactly, And it's like, but what
is that? That's it's it almost feels like you're chasing
your tail, Like how how do you do that? You know,
the Ravens like instituted this plan of like grading everything
and taking care of the fundamentals, and you know, it's
just like that's the that's the frustrating part of this.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
But you know, at the same time, you just they're
gonna have to flush this one.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You just as frustrating as this one is, which it's
it's incredibly frustrating. You just can't let it linger because
like this is too good of a team.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, and and like there is like, I mean, this
one is gonna bother the Ravens certainly for for twenty
four hours here.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Ravens fans are gonna be sick about this one.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
But like on offense, there was so much to like,
you know, Henry Head of Monster Night Lamar was excellent.
DeAndre Hopkins first pass to him as a ridiculous one
handed grab at the end zone.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
They say Flowers was great.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Tyler Luke comes in, Hey, first NFL kick, fifty two
yarder on the road, Sunday Night Football, bombs it through.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
It's another forty nine yarder.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
So, like there's all these things where you're like, man,
I'm feeling good about all this different stuff, these out
season moves and acquisitions and and what the team looks
like and how it's constructed, and it's like, man, things
are really looking up and so but but that's not
what we're talking We're not gonna be talking about those things.
You're gonna be talking about how do you fix these
issues and these miscues and the things that keep coming up?
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And so, you know, John Harbull, the point will be fine.
I do think that, like this team is a veteran
team that understands it's one game. Can't let it beat
you twice. But there's no doubt that, like this plain
ride home that we're about to get on is going
to be really disappointing and quiet, and there's going to
be a lot of frustrated people on that flight.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah. Absolutely, The Ravens have the Cleveland Browns and their
home opener next weekend. Got to bounce back against them Browns.
I lost to the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Tough one here at high Mark Stadium.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Ravens had this one in there the palm of their hand,
but don't come out with win.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
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Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan mink
here with Garrett Downing after a difficult forty one to
forty loss for the Baltimore Ravens in Week one against
the Buffalo Bills. This is a tough one to swallow, Garrett. Obviously,
Ravens are up forty twenty five, looks like they're in
control of this game. Derek Henry fumble changes the complexion
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of this game. The Bills and Josh Allen come roaring
back for the win.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, this is a game that in a lot of ways,
you just felt like the Ravens had I think a
lot of Ravens fans watching this game. In the fourth quarter,
you're kind of celebrating, You're up fifteen points.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
There's a ridiculous phil Jeffia was emptying out.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Of the stagium.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, a lot of fans were leaving. You have that
crazy DeAndre Hopkins touchdown late, you have the long Derek
Henry run, and you just feel like, all right, this
thing is done.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
It's kind of settled.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
The offense was virtually unstoppable for almost the entire night,
and then you have that crazy fourth down touchdown that
the Buffalo has tip pass completion in the back of
the end zone, then the Henry fumble, and then things
just really turned and.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It's a it's a difficult loss.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I just feel like this is a game that it's
it's so disappointing for a lot of different reasons. For me,
the biggest thing is like it felt like a game
where there were so many things that went right. It
felt like there was a game that like there was
so much to celebrate and be excited about and come
away with feeling like man, awesome way to open the season,
and instead you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It's the same story.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's the same story from the playoffs. Is you know,
you feel like you you outplay them and then you
shoot yourself in the foot with a costly turnover at
exactly the wrong fourth quarter turn. Yeah, I mean that's
what stings is. You just you know, when are the
Ravens gonna stop doing this themselves? They're a great team
in many ways, but when you keep shooting yourself in
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the foot, you have losses.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Like this, And that's kind of what Kyle Hamilton say.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You know, he talked after the game and he made
the point that, like we're talking about doing all the
right things, but we're having the same result and we
need to figure out why that is. And like the
truth is, no one has as like the answer. That's
kind of the question, Like everyone's getting asked that same question,
like why does this keep happening? Or what's the theme
or what's the trend or how do you stop it?
And like there's there's not a magic fix.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Right, Derrick Henry is not a guy that usually has
pumbling problems. Right, Derrick Henry had outside of the fumble,
an awesome game. I mean ran for one hundred and
sixty nine yards and two touchdowns. Dereck Henry is a
major reason why the Ravens were in position to win
this game.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, you feel like coming out of this before that point,
you feel like the Ravens are in a situation where
it's like Derek Henry is one of the stars of
the game. Oh absolutely, I think people are people are
getting ready that he's going to be doing the interview
on Satday Night Football after the game, after an excellent game,
and so it's it's that's what I'm talking about when
you feel like, man like that he's a perfect example
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awesome game in so many ways, but then has the
misque at a really bad time, and Derek Henry said
after the game and talking with reporters, he said, I
put this loss on me. He said, he told the
team that he told the team that he said, I
put the loss on me, that he needs to take
better care of the football, and so he took clear
accountability on it. And on the flip side, Lamar Jackson
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said he also told Derek basically, don't put the loss
on you. You had a great game in a lot of ways.
And so, you know, Henry's taking accountability and certainly as
teammates are not piling on in any way.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, yeah, I mean what's tough is you know, Mark
Andrews is a major reason why the Ravens got as
far as they did last year. And then he, you know,
has the fourth quarter fumble in the drop. You know,
it's sometimes it's even your best players, you know, And
that's that's the tough pill to swallow for the Ravens.
You know, It's it's hard to fault the offense. They
scored forty points, yeah right, and yeah, that's a brutal
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turnover at a brutal time in the game, and and yeah,
I'm sure the Ravens' final offensive sequence will be nitpicked
for what could they have They needed to pick up
one first down to win the game and they didn't,
and and I'm sure that will be nitpicked. But you know,
you scored forty points at the end of the day
against a pretty darn good defense in their place.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, and so it's tough.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, And that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The offense, like, up until really the end of the
fourth quarter, it was unstoppable. I mean they were scoring
mostly touchdowns with a couple of field goals sprinkled in,
but they were scoring on every single drive. It seem
like they scored on their first five drives, didn't get
stopped the entire first half, and then that really continued
in the second half up until that point where things
kind of went off the rails in the fourth quarter unexpectedly.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And it just.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And that's the thing like for the defense, you know,
going back to Hamilton, he made the point that like
the defense, the secondary obviously opened last season has struggled
and it's a similar thing right now. And Hamilton said, like, look,
the offense scored forty points. He made the same point.
You just did offense scored forty points. Never should have
even been in this situation. When you get forty points,
the defense feels like, the team feels like that's good
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enough to win, right. You shouldn't really be in a
situation where you need to get a stop and stop
for two point conversions at the end of the game.
It should just be handled at that situation. And that's
the way the Ravens come out of here feeling, and
the defense leading the way in that conversation too.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I think defensively the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
The funny part is is like I felt like for
most of the game they were kind of executing the
game plan making Josh Allen get rid of the ball.
There's a lot of short completions they were doing. They
were doing fine, Like it wasn't a shutdown performance. They
weren't getting it. You know, Josh Allen gets rid of
the ball so quickly. A lot of times it's like, well,
they're not getting a lot of pressure. Well, their offense
is designed for him in large part to get rid
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of the ball, and then sometimes he just pulls a
rabbit out of his hat. I mean, I can it would.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Take two He played touchdown was a rabbit out of
the hat.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The fourth down touchdown was a rabbit. I mean the
fourth down prayer that got a DPI called was also
a rabbit out of a hat. I mean, if that
pass doesn't falls in complete, it's a different game too.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Like, I mean they just and then he played. He
was Josh Allen down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
He made some awesome throws and plays down the stretch,
like he got hot. The Ravens defense was on its
heels and they took advantage, and just the momentum flipped
and that was kind of all she wrote right for
this defense, Like, obviously it has to be a better
defensive performance than this. Forty one points isn't gonna cut
it again. You know, you didn't get a takeaway. You know,
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malco I had one in his gut on the first drive.
You know there were opportunities. They didn't get any takeaways for
a defense to talk to all off season about how
it needs to get more takeaways. Again, Josh Allen and
this offense are pretty darn good and they do a
good job taking care of the ball. So take that
context for what it's worth. YEA, Like, but you gave
up forty one points. Yeah, and there's no part of
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this defense that feels like that's acceptable.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, the takeaway, sure, it would have been nice to
get one.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I think the biggest thing is given up that many
points is just something that's not that's not a recipe
for success. And you know, Jaire Alexander's the guy that
Ravens signed this offseason. He dealt with injuries and training camp,
came back this week, practice throughout the week. You know,
certainly the second half not the second half that he
but he wanted. And tough assignment again going up against
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a great quarterback and explosive offense.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
But so it's a tough assignment, you.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Know, for him, and and you know the Bills were
able to capitalize.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's just you know, it's just these costly let downs
in critical moments and that and that's really the part
offensively and defensively that like the Ravens have just been
stressing all off season, like that's that's.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Where this team needs to get, needs to get. You know,
they're they're talented enough.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
We spent the whole offseason talking about how they have
the best roster and like this unbelievable offense that was
number one in the league last year, and you know.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'm writing up the story. Hey, this is what happens.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You get forty points when you don't make mistakes and
you have the explosive playmakers the Ravens have, and then
boom mistake.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
You know, but like both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I mean, you look at the end of the first half, right,
I mean you let them drive down again sort of fluky,
they put a second back on the clock and give
them a field goal opportunity. Hey, that's pretty big three
points when you look at a forty one to forty
final score. Yeah, Like, just this a crazy amount of
crazy things.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And and if you're.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I feel like sometimes we in the media like rush
to try to find a theme and try to like
cause you're trying to wrap your head around this, like
when it keeps happening and you're like, what's the theme?
What keeps happening? And sometimes there just isn't an easy
answer like that. It's just like, if there is an
easy answer, it is like these critical moments, the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Have to be the ones to make the play.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That's the thing that I like the theme as much
as I can see. It is the critical moments one
like the end of half situation, but it's.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Also like like the Derrick Henry moment that was like
any other run in the game that wasn't a critical moment.
At that point you're leading by fifteen, Like you have
to make the plays in the critical moment. And then
you also can't shoot yourself in the foot.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
The Henry fumble was at that point. It was an
eight point game, and they fumble at that point. And
so like you're in a situation where you just need
to run clock and you end up fumbling in that
situation and obviously deep in your own part of the
field when you're just trying to run clock in that situation, right,
So like to me that that that is the critical
moment of the game example, And like, yeah, I just
(09:13):
I just I think that's it. So I think that
like end of half, end of game situations, you need
a first down, couldn't get it. John Hartwooll did say
on that fourth and three situation he considered going for it,
but Lamar talked with the media and said he was
cramping up at that time and really wasn't even in
position to go for it. And so now so I
don't know if that was why they ultimately made that.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Decision, but that was a factor.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And and and also Harball made the point that like
in that spot, in that situation, yes you can go
for it, but if you don't get it, you're basically
just giving them the ball and field goal range at
that situation, and so punting it is in a lot
of way, it didn't work out, but it's hard to
fault that decision.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
The other you know, there's like so many things in
this game that if it just it's so close and
it it flips the other way. I mean, the down
punt that goes in for a touchback guy Trenton Simpson's
glove is like a centimeter over. If they take the
ball at the one inch line there, that drive probably
doesn't result in a scoring drive for the Bills.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Well, honestly, the thing that comes to my mind if
you're talking about a game of inches, Kyle Hamilton was
sick after this game because he came inches away of
blocking that final field goal. I mean, he was right there.
It's like when you look back at the replay of
that one and he still doesn't even watching the game.
He's like, I don't know how I didn't get my
hand on that ball, like it just it.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Was he thought he had it, and so that would
have won the game.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And like that one just slipping by has had him
sick after the game. He also made the point that
like when he saw in the scoreboard that Josh Allen
had like four hundred passing yards, he almost threw up
on the field. But that one in particular, that game
of inches piece, like he almost had that block there.
And a lot of times that's what it's coming down to.
It's like, can you can you come up with some
(11:02):
crazy play or moment at these critical situations.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
The Bills did tonight.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
They get the deflective touchdown in that situation, they are
able to march at the end of the game on offense,
and it's just like they were able to come up
with some crazy plays and then also just good execution
from a great quarterback.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, it's just it's painful.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
You watch the rest of the games around the NFL.
You know, you're the Sunday night football game. You get
a chance to watch the other games around the NFL.
You watch the division rivals, and like, you know, they
get these luck, they get these breaks at the end
of the games and you're like, of course, of course
that happens.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It's like when when are the Ravens going to get
these breaks?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's just you got to have to make your own
to make your own exactly, And it's like, but what
is that? That's it's it almost feels like you're chasing
your tail, Like how how do you do that? You know,
the Ravens like instituted this plan of like grading everything
and taking care of the fundamentals, and you know, it's
just like that's the that's the frustrating part of this.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
But you know, at the same time, you just they're
gonna have to flush this one.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You just as frustrating as this one is, which it's
it's incredibly frustrating. You just can't let it linger because
like this is too good of a team.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, and and like there is like, I mean, this
one is gonna bother the Ravens certainly for for twenty
four hours here.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Ravens fans are gonna be sick about this one.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
But like on offense, there was so much to like,
you know, Henry Head of Monster Night Lamar was excellent.
DeAndre Hopkins first pass to him as a ridiculous one
handed grab at the end zone.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
They say Flowers was great.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Tyler Luke comes in, Hey, first NFL kick, fifty two
yarder on the road, Sunday Night Football, bombs it through.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
It's another forty nine yarder.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
So, like there's all these things where you're like, man,
I'm feeling good about all this different stuff, these out
season moves and acquisitions and and what the team looks
like and how it's constructed, and it's like, man, things
are really looking up and so but but that's not
what we're talking We're not gonna be talking about those things.
You're gonna be talking about how do you fix these
issues and these miscues and the things that keep coming up?
(12:58):
And so, you know, John Harbull, the point will be fine.
I do think that, like this team is a veteran
team that understands it's one game. Can't let it beat
you twice. But there's no doubt that, like this plain
ride home that we're about to get on is going
to be really disappointing and quiet, and there's going to
be a lot of frustrated people on that flight.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah. Absolutely, The Ravens have the Cleveland Browns and their
home opener next weekend. Got to bounce back against them Browns.
I lost to the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Tough one here at high Mark Stadium.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Ravens had this one in there the palm of their hand,
but don't come out with win.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
As always, you can reach us at the lounge at
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