October 22, 2024 • 19 mins
Team insiders Ryan Mink and Garrett Downing discuss the Ravens' 41-31 blowout of the Bucs, including another elite Lamar Jackson performance, the latest target to step up, Mark Andrews' record-setting night, Marlon Humphrey's injury, and what still needs to improve on defense.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink
here with Garrett Downing and we will break down the
Ravens forty one to thirty one victory over the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, putting the Ravens now at five and two.
They have rattled off five straight wins after starting the
season zero to two, and.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
They are rolling now.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, this offense is playing out of its mind. Kind
of a crazy game for the Ravens. It starts out
they're behind early and it looks like, oh no, trouble
maybe around the corner here, and the Ravens turn it
around and just put it on the Bucks in a
game that was really not nearly as close as the
final score indicse.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah. Look, it was an exciting win.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I mean, this was a game that Monday night football
against one of the best teams in the NFC that
was rolling, that was hot, really good offense, and for
the Ravens to get this win, and I think it
speaks volumes to how this team is playing. And you
can you can feel the energy of the excitement after
this game. We were recording this here in the press
room and Raymond James Stadium as the team is getting
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ready to take off, and you know that locker room,
it was, it was excited, it was there was the
way I would describe it is like there was excitement,
there was joy, but they're also like, was this real?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
This is just what we expect, Like there's an expectation
that I think that this team has for the way
that they should play, and we saw that for a
good portion of tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yep, we got to start with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The Ravens offense scored thirty four unanswered points and Lamar
put up five touchdowns. Jackson five, Baby Jackson five is alive,
and well, my friend, he's I mean, when you think
about some of Lamar's most epic performances, Monday Night comes
to mind. You know the one in La back in
twenty nineteen, the original Jackson five, that was the original
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Jackson vibe exactly. I thought he was better in this
Jackson five. I think this one takes the cake. And
it really when he gets on this stage, I mean,
it's it's another level. It seems like to Lamar Jackson
and the competitor that he is, and he almost had
a perfect game tonight finished seventeen to twenty two for
two hundred and eighty one yards. Like we said, the
five passing touchdowns also ran for fifty two yards. And oh,
(02:17):
by the way, was the lead black for Derrick Henry
on a long run.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So, I mean, just a ridiculous night for Lamar Jackson
that you know, we've all said talked about Lamar's playing
the best football of his career. You know, is he
leading the MVP race, Which I don't think there's any
doubt about that. I mean, it's now becoming almost commonplace,
like these kind of performances from Lamar, especially on primetime.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's like hard to expect it because it's just such
like it's hard to expect a quarterback to throw five
touchdown passes and play as well as he is, Right, but.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Don't do that every week.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
But I think that, like there really was a feeling
when the Ravens were down early in this game. The
Bucks jumped out to a ten point lead early in
this game, and the Ravens had a feeling.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of all right, whatever, it's to be fine.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And I actually asked for Sean Bateman about that after
the game, and I'm like, what were the conversations, and
he's like, you don't need to have a conversation when
you know you got number eight on your side, like
there's nothing to say, Like we're fine. And I just
think that like that confidence breeds success and we're seeing
that with how the Ravens are playing.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And man, it was.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Like you just you can't again, you can't expect that
from him every single game, but he is doing it
at such a consistent level. But like you almost do.
You almost expect at least an element of this. You
expect some rouse of dazzl, you expect some miraculous play.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think I think that you expect that at some
point during the game, the offense is just gonna just step.
It's gonna be pedal of the metal, and they're gonna
be really hard to stop. Like it's just hard for
me to imagine at this point of world in which
the Ravens offense gets held down all game like.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They just seem you know.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
And even tonight, I thought one of the bigger takeaways
for me was the Ravens did not play a perfect
game tonight. On either side of the ball. There were
a lot of penalties for the Ravens. I think nine
penalties tonight, a number of holding calls, and they still
overcame that to put up forty one points and play
the way they did.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Like early in the first two losses of the season,
penalties killed them in both of those games and ultimately
led to losses. Yeah, tonight, they had those things. They
stubbed their toe, they dropped interceptions, they had all these things.
But then on the flip side, they still had the
big plays. I mean, case in point, they had a
touchdown wiped off the board by a holding penalty. Next
very next play, Justice Hill takes a running back a
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screen in the Enzo. Yeah, right, Like that kind of
encapsulated what this Knight was to a degree for the Ravens.
It wasn't a beautiful game from start to finish, but
my god, they scored forty one points.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It was pretty beautiful offense.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I mean, you had some penalties, but like it was
pretty It was pretty darn good on offense if you
were just moving the ball consistently all throughout the game,
and like.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well not really, I mean early on they were taking
in sacks and they.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Had what the first drive was bad, the first shot.
In the second drive, they marched down the field in
like seven plays in two minutes, and then they scored
thirty four unanswered points. So they did have one bad
drive to open the game, but from there it was
really a thing of beauty until until that basically the
play that elongated the game in the fourth quarter, which
was the pass yeah to Zay Flowers, like that all
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of a sudden made the fourth quarter last like three
hours long and just like just end this game. And
the Bucks kind of came back and got some late
points there.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
But it's a good offensive game when you go punt, touchdown, touchdown,
field goal, field goal, touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, that's that's pretty good. That's playing at a high level.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
It looked like the conversation starts with Lamar, but it
wasn't just him, Like you had a bunch of guys
on the team who came up with big plays. Like
I think we need to talk about Rashat Bateman. He
had a career high in receiving yards, had the long
touchdown pass and yeah, one hundred and twenty one receiving
yards for Rashat Bateman, and yeah, the the touchdown, what
was it forty.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Nine harder, Yeah, I mean forty nine ridiculous throw, great catch.
That's what we've been waiting to see from Rashad Bateman
for so long. And that's what John Harball said after
the game. He said, it's gratifying to see that right,
Like we've seen him the comeback rounds, the route running,
hit in the short to intermediate stuff and to be
able to shake defenders and like we've been like, man,
when's that deep ball gonna hit between Lamar and Rashad
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Bateman And boom there it is, right, Like besides the
Marlin Humphrey interceptions, that to me was the play of
the game.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That was just a huge play.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, Rashad made the point like the whole narrative, he said,
the narrative that me and Lamar don't have a connection,
Like that's not real, Like that's media driven, Like that's
not an actual thing.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We've always had a connection.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And he said they were calling that play in practice,
felt like there was a chance it could get called
in the game, but then based on the look and
the covers that he had, didn't necessarily think they were
going to he was going to get the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
In that play.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And then when he turned and looked and realized how
open he was and the ball felt like it was
in the air for an hour.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, and he was like, just catch it, just catch it.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I think it's connection aside, right, like he's talking about
like their chemistry, their connection. But I mean the point,
the fact of the matter is they had not hit
many deals.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That's just a fact, right, And so like.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
To see that play specifically get hit, I think really
shows the full range of Rashat Bateman's game and can
really open him up for the rest of what he does.
Right if you, if you if you have to respect
him beating you over the top for the fifty yard touchdown,
then you have to give him even more cushion on
the comebacks and all that stuff. So and just another
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guy like the how many times would this season We're
gonna say, pick your poison, but like another vial of
poison that the Ravens broke out tonight. I mean Mark
Andrews scored two touchdowns too. Oh by the way, but
like we hadn't had like Bateman's been heating up, but
we hadn't had the Rashad Bateman game. Right tonight was
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the Rashaw Bateman game. I mean, Zay Flowers had one
catch for an eleven for eleven yards for a shot
baitman game.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's funny though it was a shot baitman game. It
was La Mark Jackson game. It was Derek Hendry game
who had.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
A touchdown one hundred and seventy yards.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
He only had one hundred and sixty nine rushing yards
years Henry game.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, plus the receiving touchdown.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, it's just kind of an average workload for him.
But and Mark, like you mentioned Mark Andrews, I think
it's officially time to put an end to the question of, like,
what's up with Mark Andrews?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Is he okay?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Is he ever going to get involved in this offense?
That storyline is officially dead. Rip here on October twenty first,
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
He's on twenty second now, twenty second.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Now, he's scored a pair of touchdowns. The all time
Ravens leader in franchise history for receiving touchdowns pass he
was tied with Todd Heap. He passed them and then
added to it, and he's just going to keep adding
to that numbers now exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, four for forty one for Mark Andrews, And you know,
I don't know, like maybe we'll have the Mark Andrews
game where he catches eight balls and goes over one
hundred yards, or maybe we won't, but like this efficient
Mark Andrews and certainly being the red zone threat to
get in the end zone a la. He has the
career franchise record in touch receiving touchdowns, Like whatever, Maybe
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it's not the Mark Andrews of twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen,
twenty twenty, right that put up one thousand some yards,
but like this is a very good Mark Andrews in
this offense.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, totally. Like when I look at this offense, I
think it was.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Another sign that I just don't know that this offense
can be stopped. Like big picture, WHI is when I'm
looking at this, like I think the Ravens offense is
playing at as the best level in the NFL, and
I do not see a scenario where they're going to
be shut down for an entire game. I just it's
hard for me to found them. The only way I
see it happening. I said this in the podcast coming
(09:47):
into the game, is if you have somebody who just
completely wreck shop up front and can create havoc that way.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But I just even Vidavea.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
We spent a long time talking about Vivea di vidave
didn't wreck Ravens shop. You know, I don't know that
the Ravens ran for a lot of yards up the middle,
but they ran for two hundred and forty four on
the day, So I don't care where they ran.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, left, whatever, right, I'll take that, you know. So
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think it's gonna be really hard, and it starts
and ends with the quarterback. Right when you have the
best athlete on the field, when you have the best
player on the field in Lamar Jackson, which he is,
I don't think right now in the NFL there's another
quarterback that comes close to Lamar Jackson and the level
that he's playing at right now.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Like, Okay, Pat.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Mahomes has the rings and he's beaten Lamar in the
playoffs all that stuff. Like until Lamar beats Pat Mahomes,
he's not going to be considered better than Pat ma Holmes.
But I'm saying who's playing the best right now in
the league. I don't think it's close. I think it's
Lamar Jackson Pat Mahlmes. Is there are more interceptions than
touchdowns this year yeah, right, and like so like I'm
like literally trying to think of somebody around the league
(10:53):
that's playing a Jared Golf is playing really well right now,
but like sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
He's playing great, you know. But yes, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I think nobody's close to Lamar Jackson Lamar, and so
when he's playing at that level, I completely agree with you. Like, no,
I don't think the Ravens are going to be held
down for four quarters.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I also think that the way his mindset, the leadership,
he came into the season with a renewed sense of urgency,
wanting to become more of a leader. And you see
it in little ways, like one of them is when
he's downfield blocking for Derrick Henry, and Derek Henry says
after the game, like when you have that guy, that
player who's who's making that type of selfless play that
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speaks volumes of his mindset and his approach and everybody
follows him.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, I must have peppered him with three questions and
put Lamar with three questions in the postgame press conference
about like, you know, how how good do you feel?
What's your mindset right now? You're on a heater just
like what's going through your mind right now? And he's
like winning games. I don't know, like the next game
that I got to play well, like Lamar harbes, like
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they're all kind of downplaying, like they just it's becoming commonplace.
Like now, like what else, what do you say? Like
what is left to say about how great Lamar Jackson is?
Like John Harball said, like he'll go down in Monday
Night Football history. He'll be one of the greats Monday
Night football history. You're like, Okay, that's a that's our
new thing for tonight. But like there's like nothing much
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more to say, And Lamar is single mindedly just focused
on winning the next game, getting to the super Bowl,
winning super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So yeah, he's playing on real level.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
All Right, let's take break and we'll come back and
talk about the Ravens defense after this win in Tampa Bay.
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Crown is Yours. So this defense up and down night
for them. But the game changed when Marlon Hrfrey came
up with back to back interceptions. That first interception really
was a fourteen point swinging The Bucks were driving. They
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actually had to play before it looked like they scored
a touchdown to Mike Evans and then that went incomplete
and and then he ends up getting hurt, is done
for the game. Then they come back, throws it in
Marlin's direction. He comes up with the pick, but they
are knock going to have the door there.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Everyone were hanging on at that point. I mean, they
already had a ten point lead. The Ravens scored a
touchdown and cut at the three. They marched right back
down the field to in our in position to extend
it to ten again. Yeah, and that was a huge play,
turning point of the game for Marlin, and hey, kudos
to him. And then obviously came up with the interception,
you know, collided with his own guy on the very
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next drive when when again the Bucks are just marching
down the field. And credit to Marlin. I mean, now
he has a career high four interceptions. He's not a
guy that's known for his hands by any stretch of
the imagination, even Lamar Jackson this summer, joked like, yeah,
I'm throwing him interceptions to like work on his hands
because he dropped of too many.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So like credit to Marlin.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
There's only one guy who has more picks than him
in the league right now, and he leads some hits.
I thought, I think Marlin's playing at a really high level.
Knock on Wood, that his knee injury isn't too serious.
John Harball did not have an update after the game,
said he saw Marlon walking around and.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
On the field at the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I was down there at the end of the game
and he was on the side, was on the sideline,
standing there watching the end of the game, herd, which
is encouraging.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
That is encouraging hard. I said.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
He was walking around the locker room seem being good spirits,
so it doesn't seem like anything major. But he didn't
have a definite update on that. Knock on Wood, it's
nothing too bad.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, the defense, you know, the takeaway from me on
the defense, it's it's hard because like they weren't good early,
but then after that, the Marlin interceptions started a run
of six straight series where the Bucks did not score.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
And the defense was playing great.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I mean two of those series were turnovers, and then
the defense was hitting hard. They were physical, they were
shutting things down, and so they were really in the
in their element. Then at the end of the game,
after that again that backwards passed today, then all of
a sudden.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
The Bucks got a couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And you would like to see him close it out there,
you would you would like to see him.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I'm sure Zach were saying, hey, you guys, we got
to close it out.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Kyle Hamilton made that point too, that they should close
it out better. But like the game really felt like
it was in hand. It was just you were just
kind of yeah, I don't know, it was kind of
garbage time.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, it was garbage. Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I mean, and you know they didn't catch an on
side kick, Like if that's called it's a different body.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I mean, this is a route.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
This is a route, and but you look at the stats,
you gave up four hundred and eighty one yards as
a defense.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
That's just too many. John Harball said, too many big plays.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And before it was a route, the Bucks just marched
down the field too easily. On their first two to
three drives. You know, now you got some turns at
the end, which are great, but you don't want to
see a march down the field like that. And so
this defense is giving up too much easy stuff, too
much stuff in the flats. I mean, Rashad White had
how many catches wide open in the flats?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yea, including two.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
For touchdowns, And so they have to clean up some
of that stuff. I don't know if that's just you
got caught in the wrong coverage, that's a miscommunication, I
don't know. But you shouldn't have a guy that wide
open in the flats for easy yardage. And you can't
be given up too many plays and you can't be
dropping in or set. Marlin came up with the two,
but Ardarius again could have had one for the second
straight game.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You know that you got to start catching some of this.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, I think the defense is still very much work
in progress. So the things that have cost them at
times this year showed up again tonight. But I do
like I'm gonna go glass half full here. I'm gonna
choose to remember like the middle of the game, like
the bulk of the game, Like, yes, I would like
to see them getting out there but I'm just like,
not gonna I'm not going to kill him for the
end of the game and not being able to get
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off the field in that situation.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I mean, let's also not forget that this Tampa Bay
passing attack and offense is pretty darn good. And now
part of certainly what changed the game speaking of, is
the injury to Mike Evans. You know, after Mike Evans
went down, that certainly changed you know, Tampa Bay's big
playability there. You know, if he had not gone down,
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this might have been a different game.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Sure, And so yeah, I mean he had one touchdown,
almost had a second, and they got.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Hurt exactly, so that that is certainly a factor. But yeah,
this bucks Baker Mayfield came out and I thought he
was just dealing. I thought it was it was like
I was thinking, this is this is hot. Baker's hot tonight,
you know, but it's gonna be It's gonna be trouble.
But then it was like classic Baker, gun slinging Baker,
you know, puts the Dane ball in harm's way and
the Ravens made him pay. And so that's the ying
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and the yang Baker Mayfield right, and but yeah, this
I think this is a good Tampa Bay team. I
was surprised by how well they ran the ball. Yeah,
I thought that was one of the just a weird
different thing for this defense tonight. You know, thirty rushes
for one hundred and twenty five yards for the Bucks,
and they were on a few.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Teams that kind of stuck with it.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
You know, it's they weren't like gashing the Ravens, but
they were getting five, six, seven yards and they were
sticking with the runs. So you know, they were coming
off a huge running performance a week ago.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It wasn't a fluke apparently.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You know, they ran the ball better than I thought
they were going to against this Ravens team.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah. So the Ravens are sitting here at five and two.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I think that, you know, there's a case to be
made that they're playing the best football in the NFL
right now. Chiefs are still they're undefeated, So the Chiefs
are and they beat the Ravens, So the Chiefs are
the best team of the league.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
But I think there's a difference between the best record
in the league and who's playing the best right now.
And I think that anybody that watched the forty nine
Ers Chiefs game, which I did Sunday hotel room. You know,
I think would say, you know, I think the Ravens
are playing at a higher level. But again to Lamars
Jackson's point, it's week by week and hey, I'm trying
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to get somewhere. That somewhere eventually I think will lead
to facing the Kansas City Chiefs again.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
You're gonna have to beat them then.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So the whatever, you know, that's that's for down the road.
You got to get to that point. And I think
the Ravens are playing pretty darn good football right now
to get to that point.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
So we'll wrap it up here. We got to catch
his flat home and let's not miss the playing. Yeah,
we don't want to miss a playing here. But as always,
we left here from you guys who send us those
emails every single week.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
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again this week. MHM.
Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink
here with Garrett Downing and we will break down the
Ravens forty one to thirty one victory over the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, putting the Ravens now at five and two.
They have rattled off five straight wins after starting the
season zero to two, and.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
They are rolling now.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, this offense is playing out of its mind. Kind
of a crazy game for the Ravens. It starts out
they're behind early and it looks like, oh no, trouble
maybe around the corner here, and the Ravens turn it
around and just put it on the Bucks in a
game that was really not nearly as close as the
final score indicse.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah. Look, it was an exciting win.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I mean, this was a game that Monday night football
against one of the best teams in the NFC that
was rolling, that was hot, really good offense, and for
the Ravens to get this win, and I think it
speaks volumes to how this team is playing. And you
can you can feel the energy of the excitement after
this game. We were recording this here in the press
room and Raymond James Stadium as the team is getting
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ready to take off, and you know that locker room,
it was, it was excited, it was there was the
way I would describe it is like there was excitement,
there was joy, but they're also like, was this real?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
This is just what we expect, Like there's an expectation
that I think that this team has for the way
that they should play, and we saw that for a
good portion of tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yep, we got to start with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The Ravens offense scored thirty four unanswered points and Lamar
put up five touchdowns. Jackson five, Baby Jackson five is alive,
and well, my friend, he's I mean, when you think
about some of Lamar's most epic performances, Monday Night comes
to mind. You know the one in La back in
twenty nineteen, the original Jackson five, that was the original
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Jackson vibe exactly. I thought he was better in this
Jackson five. I think this one takes the cake. And
it really when he gets on this stage, I mean,
it's it's another level. It seems like to Lamar Jackson
and the competitor that he is, and he almost had
a perfect game tonight finished seventeen to twenty two for
two hundred and eighty one yards. Like we said, the
five passing touchdowns also ran for fifty two yards. And oh,
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by the way, was the lead black for Derrick Henry
on a long run.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So, I mean, just a ridiculous night for Lamar Jackson
that you know, we've all said talked about Lamar's playing
the best football of his career. You know, is he
leading the MVP race, Which I don't think there's any
doubt about that. I mean, it's now becoming almost commonplace,
like these kind of performances from Lamar, especially on primetime.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's like hard to expect it because it's just such
like it's hard to expect a quarterback to throw five
touchdown passes and play as well as he is, Right, but.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Don't do that every week.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
But I think that, like there really was a feeling
when the Ravens were down early in this game. The
Bucks jumped out to a ten point lead early in
this game, and the Ravens had a feeling.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of all right, whatever, it's to be fine.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And I actually asked for Sean Bateman about that after
the game, and I'm like, what were the conversations, and
he's like, you don't need to have a conversation when
you know you got number eight on your side, like
there's nothing to say, Like we're fine. And I just
think that like that confidence breeds success and we're seeing
that with how the Ravens are playing.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And man, it was.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Like you just you can't again, you can't expect that
from him every single game, but he is doing it
at such a consistent level. But like you almost do.
You almost expect at least an element of this. You
expect some rouse of dazzl, you expect some miraculous play.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think I think that you expect that at some
point during the game, the offense is just gonna just step.
It's gonna be pedal of the metal, and they're gonna
be really hard to stop. Like it's just hard for
me to imagine at this point of world in which
the Ravens offense gets held down all game like.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They just seem you know.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
And even tonight, I thought one of the bigger takeaways
for me was the Ravens did not play a perfect
game tonight. On either side of the ball. There were
a lot of penalties for the Ravens. I think nine
penalties tonight, a number of holding calls, and they still
overcame that to put up forty one points and play
the way they did.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Like early in the first two losses of the season,
penalties killed them in both of those games and ultimately
led to losses. Yeah, tonight, they had those things. They
stubbed their toe, they dropped interceptions, they had all these things.
But then on the flip side, they still had the
big plays. I mean, case in point, they had a
touchdown wiped off the board by a holding penalty. Next
very next play, Justice Hill takes a running back a
(04:35):
screen in the Enzo. Yeah, right, Like that kind of
encapsulated what this Knight was to a degree for the Ravens.
It wasn't a beautiful game from start to finish, but
my god, they scored forty one points.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It was pretty beautiful offense.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I mean, you had some penalties, but like it was
pretty It was pretty darn good on offense if you
were just moving the ball consistently all throughout the game,
and like.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well not really, I mean early on they were taking
in sacks and they.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Had what the first drive was bad, the first shot.
In the second drive, they marched down the field in
like seven plays in two minutes, and then they scored
thirty four unanswered points. So they did have one bad
drive to open the game, but from there it was
really a thing of beauty until until that basically the
play that elongated the game in the fourth quarter, which
was the pass yeah to Zay Flowers, like that all
(05:25):
of a sudden made the fourth quarter last like three
hours long and just like just end this game. And
the Bucks kind of came back and got some late
points there.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
But it's a good offensive game when you go punt, touchdown, touchdown,
field goal, field goal, touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, that's that's pretty good. That's playing at a high level.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
It looked like the conversation starts with Lamar, but it
wasn't just him, Like you had a bunch of guys
on the team who came up with big plays. Like
I think we need to talk about Rashat Bateman. He
had a career high in receiving yards, had the long
touchdown pass and yeah, one hundred and twenty one receiving
yards for Rashat Bateman, and yeah, the the touchdown, what
was it forty.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Nine harder, Yeah, I mean forty nine ridiculous throw, great catch.
That's what we've been waiting to see from Rashad Bateman
for so long. And that's what John Harball said after
the game. He said, it's gratifying to see that right,
Like we've seen him the comeback rounds, the route running,
hit in the short to intermediate stuff and to be
able to shake defenders and like we've been like, man,
when's that deep ball gonna hit between Lamar and Rashad
(06:24):
Bateman And boom there it is, right, Like besides the
Marlin Humphrey interceptions, that to me was the play of
the game.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That was just a huge play.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, Rashad made the point like the whole narrative, he said,
the narrative that me and Lamar don't have a connection,
Like that's not real, Like that's media driven, Like that's
not an actual thing.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We've always had a connection.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And he said they were calling that play in practice,
felt like there was a chance it could get called
in the game, but then based on the look and
the covers that he had, didn't necessarily think they were
going to he was going to get the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
In that play.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And then when he turned and looked and realized how
open he was and the ball felt like it was
in the air for an hour.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, and he was like, just catch it, just catch it.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I think it's connection aside, right, like he's talking about
like their chemistry, their connection. But I mean the point,
the fact of the matter is they had not hit
many deals.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That's just a fact, right, And so like.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
To see that play specifically get hit, I think really
shows the full range of Rashat Bateman's game and can
really open him up for the rest of what he does.
Right if you, if you if you have to respect
him beating you over the top for the fifty yard touchdown,
then you have to give him even more cushion on
the comebacks and all that stuff. So and just another
(07:35):
guy like the how many times would this season We're
gonna say, pick your poison, but like another vial of
poison that the Ravens broke out tonight. I mean Mark
Andrews scored two touchdowns too. Oh by the way, but
like we hadn't had like Bateman's been heating up, but
we hadn't had the Rashad Bateman game. Right tonight was
(07:55):
the Rashaw Bateman game. I mean, Zay Flowers had one
catch for an eleven for eleven yards for a shot
baitman game.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's funny though it was a shot baitman game. It
was La Mark Jackson game. It was Derek Hendry game
who had.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
A touchdown one hundred and seventy yards.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
He only had one hundred and sixty nine rushing yards
years Henry game.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, plus the receiving touchdown.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, it's just kind of an average workload for him.
But and Mark, like you mentioned Mark Andrews, I think
it's officially time to put an end to the question of, like,
what's up with Mark Andrews?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Is he okay?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Is he ever going to get involved in this offense?
That storyline is officially dead. Rip here on October twenty first,
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
He's on twenty second now, twenty second.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Now, he's scored a pair of touchdowns. The all time
Ravens leader in franchise history for receiving touchdowns pass he
was tied with Todd Heap. He passed them and then
added to it, and he's just going to keep adding
to that numbers now exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, four for forty one for Mark Andrews, And you know,
I don't know, like maybe we'll have the Mark Andrews
game where he catches eight balls and goes over one
hundred yards, or maybe we won't, but like this efficient
Mark Andrews and certainly being the red zone threat to
get in the end zone a la. He has the
career franchise record in touch receiving touchdowns, Like whatever, Maybe
(09:10):
it's not the Mark Andrews of twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen,
twenty twenty, right that put up one thousand some yards,
but like this is a very good Mark Andrews in
this offense.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, totally. Like when I look at this offense, I
think it was.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Another sign that I just don't know that this offense
can be stopped. Like big picture, WHI is when I'm
looking at this, like I think the Ravens offense is
playing at as the best level in the NFL, and
I do not see a scenario where they're going to
be shut down for an entire game. I just it's
hard for me to found them. The only way I
see it happening. I said this in the podcast coming
(09:47):
into the game, is if you have somebody who just
completely wreck shop up front and can create havoc that way.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But I just even Vidavea.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
We spent a long time talking about Vivea di vidave
didn't wreck Ravens shop. You know, I don't know that
the Ravens ran for a lot of yards up the middle,
but they ran for two hundred and forty four on
the day, So I don't care where they ran.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, left, whatever, right, I'll take that, you know. So
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think it's gonna be really hard, and it starts
and ends with the quarterback. Right when you have the
best athlete on the field, when you have the best
player on the field in Lamar Jackson, which he is,
I don't think right now in the NFL there's another
quarterback that comes close to Lamar Jackson and the level
that he's playing at right now.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Like, Okay, Pat.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Mahomes has the rings and he's beaten Lamar in the
playoffs all that stuff. Like until Lamar beats Pat Mahomes,
he's not going to be considered better than Pat ma Holmes.
But I'm saying who's playing the best right now in
the league. I don't think it's close. I think it's
Lamar Jackson Pat Mahlmes. Is there are more interceptions than
touchdowns this year yeah, right, and like so like I'm
like literally trying to think of somebody around the league
(10:53):
that's playing a Jared Golf is playing really well right now,
but like sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
He's playing great, you know. But yes, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I think nobody's close to Lamar Jackson Lamar, and so
when he's playing at that level, I completely agree with you. Like, no,
I don't think the Ravens are going to be held
down for four quarters.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I also think that the way his mindset, the leadership,
he came into the season with a renewed sense of urgency,
wanting to become more of a leader. And you see
it in little ways, like one of them is when
he's downfield blocking for Derrick Henry, and Derek Henry says
after the game, like when you have that guy, that
player who's who's making that type of selfless play that
(11:32):
speaks volumes of his mindset and his approach and everybody
follows him.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, I must have peppered him with three questions and
put Lamar with three questions in the postgame press conference
about like, you know, how how good do you feel?
What's your mindset right now? You're on a heater just
like what's going through your mind right now? And he's
like winning games. I don't know, like the next game
that I got to play well, like Lamar harbes, like
(11:56):
they're all kind of downplaying, like they just it's becoming commonplace.
Like now, like what else, what do you say? Like
what is left to say about how great Lamar Jackson is?
Like John Harball said, like he'll go down in Monday
Night Football history. He'll be one of the greats Monday
Night football history. You're like, Okay, that's a that's our
new thing for tonight. But like there's like nothing much
(12:19):
more to say, And Lamar is single mindedly just focused
on winning the next game, getting to the super Bowl,
winning super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So yeah, he's playing on real level.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
All Right, let's take break and we'll come back and
talk about the Ravens defense after this win in Tampa Bay.
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Crown is Yours. So this defense up and down night
for them. But the game changed when Marlon Hrfrey came
up with back to back interceptions. That first interception really
was a fourteen point swinging The Bucks were driving. They
(12:54):
actually had to play before it looked like they scored
a touchdown to Mike Evans and then that went incomplete
and and then he ends up getting hurt, is done
for the game. Then they come back, throws it in
Marlin's direction. He comes up with the pick, but they
are knock going to have the door there.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Everyone were hanging on at that point. I mean, they
already had a ten point lead. The Ravens scored a
touchdown and cut at the three. They marched right back
down the field to in our in position to extend
it to ten again. Yeah, and that was a huge play,
turning point of the game for Marlin, and hey, kudos
to him. And then obviously came up with the interception,
you know, collided with his own guy on the very
(13:29):
next drive when when again the Bucks are just marching
down the field. And credit to Marlin. I mean, now
he has a career high four interceptions. He's not a
guy that's known for his hands by any stretch of
the imagination, even Lamar Jackson this summer, joked like, yeah,
I'm throwing him interceptions to like work on his hands
because he dropped of too many.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So like credit to Marlin.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
There's only one guy who has more picks than him
in the league right now, and he leads some hits.
I thought, I think Marlin's playing at a really high level.
Knock on Wood, that his knee injury isn't too serious.
John Harball did not have an update after the game,
said he saw Marlon walking around and.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
On the field at the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I was down there at the end of the game
and he was on the side, was on the sideline,
standing there watching the end of the game, herd, which
is encouraging.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
That is encouraging hard. I said.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
He was walking around the locker room seem being good spirits,
so it doesn't seem like anything major. But he didn't
have a definite update on that. Knock on Wood, it's
nothing too bad.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, the defense, you know, the takeaway from me on
the defense, it's it's hard because like they weren't good early,
but then after that, the Marlin interceptions started a run
of six straight series where the Bucks did not score.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
And the defense was playing great.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I mean two of those series were turnovers, and then
the defense was hitting hard. They were physical, they were
shutting things down, and so they were really in the
in their element. Then at the end of the game,
after that again that backwards passed today, then all of
a sudden.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
The Bucks got a couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And you would like to see him close it out there,
you would you would like to see him.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I'm sure Zach were saying, hey, you guys, we got
to close it out.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Kyle Hamilton made that point too, that they should close
it out better. But like the game really felt like
it was in hand. It was just you were just
kind of yeah, I don't know, it was kind of
garbage time.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, it was garbage. Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I mean, and you know they didn't catch an on
side kick, Like if that's called it's a different body.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I mean, this is a route.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
This is a route, and but you look at the stats,
you gave up four hundred and eighty one yards as
a defense.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
That's just too many. John Harball said, too many big plays.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And before it was a route, the Bucks just marched
down the field too easily. On their first two to
three drives. You know, now you got some turns at
the end, which are great, but you don't want to
see a march down the field like that. And so
this defense is giving up too much easy stuff, too
much stuff in the flats. I mean, Rashad White had
how many catches wide open in the flats?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yea, including two.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
For touchdowns, And so they have to clean up some
of that stuff. I don't know if that's just you
got caught in the wrong coverage, that's a miscommunication, I
don't know. But you shouldn't have a guy that wide
open in the flats for easy yardage. And you can't
be given up too many plays and you can't be
dropping in or set. Marlin came up with the two,
but Ardarius again could have had one for the second
straight game.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You know that you got to start catching some of this.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, I think the defense is still very much work
in progress. So the things that have cost them at
times this year showed up again tonight. But I do
like I'm gonna go glass half full here. I'm gonna
choose to remember like the middle of the game, like
the bulk of the game, Like, yes, I would like
to see them getting out there but I'm just like,
not gonna I'm not going to kill him for the
end of the game and not being able to get
(16:29):
off the field in that situation.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I mean, let's also not forget that this Tampa Bay
passing attack and offense is pretty darn good. And now
part of certainly what changed the game speaking of, is
the injury to Mike Evans. You know, after Mike Evans
went down, that certainly changed you know, Tampa Bay's big
playability there. You know, if he had not gone down,
(16:55):
this might have been a different game.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Sure, And so yeah, I mean he had one touchdown,
almost had a second, and they got.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Hurt exactly, so that that is certainly a factor. But yeah,
this bucks Baker Mayfield came out and I thought he
was just dealing. I thought it was it was like
I was thinking, this is this is hot. Baker's hot tonight,
you know, but it's gonna be It's gonna be trouble.
But then it was like classic Baker, gun slinging Baker,
you know, puts the Dane ball in harm's way and
the Ravens made him pay. And so that's the ying
(17:23):
and the yang Baker Mayfield right, and but yeah, this
I think this is a good Tampa Bay team. I
was surprised by how well they ran the ball. Yeah,
I thought that was one of the just a weird
different thing for this defense tonight. You know, thirty rushes
for one hundred and twenty five yards for the Bucks,
and they were on a few.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Teams that kind of stuck with it.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
You know, it's they weren't like gashing the Ravens, but
they were getting five, six, seven yards and they were
sticking with the runs. So you know, they were coming
off a huge running performance a week ago.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It wasn't a fluke apparently.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You know, they ran the ball better than I thought
they were going to against this Ravens team.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah. So the Ravens are sitting here at five and two.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I think that, you know, there's a case to be
made that they're playing the best football in the NFL
right now. Chiefs are still they're undefeated, So the Chiefs
are and they beat the Ravens, So the Chiefs are
the best team of the league.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
But I think there's a difference between the best record
in the league and who's playing the best right now.
And I think that anybody that watched the forty nine
Ers Chiefs game, which I did Sunday hotel room. You know,
I think would say, you know, I think the Ravens
are playing at a higher level. But again to Lamars
Jackson's point, it's week by week and hey, I'm trying
(18:32):
to get somewhere. That somewhere eventually I think will lead
to facing the Kansas City Chiefs again.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
You're gonna have to beat them then.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So the whatever, you know, that's that's for down the road.
You got to get to that point. And I think
the Ravens are playing pretty darn good football right now
to get to that point.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
So we'll wrap it up here. We got to catch
his flat home and let's not miss the playing. Yeah,
we don't want to miss a playing here. But as always,
we left here from you guys who send us those
emails every single week.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Enjoy this way. It's a big one. This is a
big one. Size, it's kind of sizable Tuesday morning. Size
them up. Thanks for listening. We'll be back with you
again this week. MHM.
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