November 21, 2025 • 24 mins
Team insiders Ryan Mink and Garrett Downing get you set for the Ravens-Jets game on Sunday, including what could get the offense on the right track, Lamar Jackson's health, threats the Jets pose, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Ryan Mink here with Garrett Downning, and we are
going to get you set for Sunday's game team the
Ravens and Jets at M and T Banks Stadium. It's
at one o'clock kickoff and a game that the Ravens
really need to win. Ride in a four game winning streak,
want to run it to five and get over five
hundred for the first time this season. Garrett, the Ravens
are certainly favored to win this game, going against the
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Jets team that has really struggled this year.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
They come into this game sitting at two and.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Eight, and so this is kind of one of those
ones that the Ravens are heavily favored to win.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But you gotta go win it.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
No doubt about it. This is a game that if
the Ravens are going to go to the playoffs, you
need to win this game. It's a home game, your
double digit favorites, and you have to win the games
that you're supposed to win if you're going to be
a team that makes the playoffs, especially when you start
the season one to five, if you don't have any
ground to give up. So it's a got to have
a game for the Ravens, and I think they're in
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a good position to win it, but you got to
go out there and win it. And to me, like
I think that a lot of a lot of attention
this week is going to be as it always is,
of course, on Lamar Jackson in the offense, because that
unit has not played as well as we're used to seeing,
especially in recent years with Todd Monkin as the offensive
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coordinator and Lamar Jackson as the quarterback. We're used to
seeing forty points on the regular. We got used to
this in recent years and it has it's been more
of a struggle this season, especially in recent weeks as
Lamar's come back from the injury and he's missed practice
time in different weeks knee ankle this week of course,
time with the hamstring, and so you want to see
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the offense put it all together and just start to
look like the unit that we've been.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Used to see.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, absolutely, And I think Lamar Jackson's health is a
component of that. He missed practice on Wednesday again this
week with an ankle. That was the injury on the
injury report last week. It was a knee, knees soreness
coming out of Minnesota. So I think it's fair to say,
and we heard from Lamar he said, this is really
the first time I'm dealing with something like this where
I'm kind of banged up a little bit during the season,
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can still play in games, you know. It's not like
his knee injury of a few years ago and the
angle or whatever where he went on the he went
on the bench he couldn't play right, or the hamstring
even earlier this year where he couldn't play. These are
he's banged up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I mean, he took a lot of shots in that
game against Cleveland. Miles Garrett sacked him four times, and
those weren't the only hits that he had, Like he took,
he took kind of a beating.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Even before that, I mean the penalty that the guy
the Minnesota UH Minnesota Dallas Turner dropped all of his
weight on and Lamar was still like, man, that one
was bad. Yeah, and so yeah, And the crazy part
of it is what I find so ironic is that
Lamar came into the NFL and everybody was worried about, oh,
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is this guy going to be durable enough because of
his run. It's not the running that's gotten him beaten up.
He's so good at avoiding big hits as a runner.
When he can protect himself, he just has a knack
for it. It's now that he's running less. He's averaging
a career low in rushing attempts this season. Now he's
getting more beat up as a pocket passer, which is
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is often what we in Baltimore told the pundits who
were worried about his their ability, were like, look at
all these pocket passers who get hurt all the time. Yeah,
and that's kind of been the case for the Ravens
this year. When Lamar can protect himself on the run,
he's a little bit better off. He can only do
so much in the pocket sometimes.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Look, I think the main thing as we're talking about
Lamar or the offense and the protection and the hits
and like all this stuff, I think that at the
bottom line, he has taken too many hits, too many
sacks this year.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He's taying twenty three sacks so far this year, which
is the same number he had all of last season,
and he missed some action this year.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Right, It's just too many and you can break down
each one of those individually, and there's different layers to it,
and so the Ravens are looking at all that stuff,
but at the bottom line, like there's just too many
sacks and too many hits. And so I think that
as we get into this second half of the season,
and I think what's going to go a long way
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and kind of determining the success of this team is
going to be how well they're able to protect Lamar
and to win the line of scrimmage. That's just like
you could probably make that same argument for most teams
in the league. And I think starting that this week
in terms of going up against this Jets defense with
a defensive head coach and being able to like a
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stab with Aaron Glenn form of defensive coordinator with the
Detroit Lions, being able to win the line of scrimmage,
provide the adequate protection for Lamar and get the ground
game going. I think that that is going to be
important for the team. You can say that every week,
of course, but I think that, like where this team
is right now, they need to do a really good
job of protecting their quarterback. Considering that the Ravens is
gonna be playing two games in five days.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I agree with that. The Jets have some pretty
darn good pass rushers. Will McDonald the fourth has seven sacks.
This here, Jermaine Johnson another talented pass rusher. They trade
away Quinnin Williams to the Dallas Cowboys, their monster defensive tackle.
They also trade away they're arguably their best cornerback or
best player, and one of the best cornerbacks in the league,
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in Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts. So but this defense,
even though they trade away two of maybe their best players,
still has some talent on that defense.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It does. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
The thing that I want to point to in regards
to the sacks is the weird thing is, you know,
Lamar's taken a sack on thirty percent of his pressures,
which is certainly higher than he's accustomed to. He is
not only good at avoiding hits when he's on the run,
he is also good at avoiding sacks generally as a
passer in the pocket and maneuvering around. I do think
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like the the hits that he's taken that we've talked
about could be impacting that you know, he's not avoiding
as many sacks as he has before. Maybe he's he's
not getting out and running away from those it turned
into scrambles or whatnot. Maybe there's just too much pressure
and it's closing in all around him. There's multiple, you know,
avenues at multiple reasons for that, but that is in
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the negative plays and all the sacks, I think are
a pretty big part of what's holding this Ravens offense back.
And to be honest, that in a way is what's
holding this team back. I think that if the Ravens
offense gets on a roll and heats up, and Lamar
Jackson gets on a roll and heats up, this team's
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gonna be really tough to contend with. And now we're
back to talking about you know, Okay, this team, this
team's gonna win the division, which I think they certainly
have a chance, but like that's what it's gonna take,
you know, can they make noise in the playoffs. That's
what it's gonna take. Is this offense getting on a roll.
And I think that this game Sunday at MPT Banks
Stadium is an important one for starting that process.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, you want the offense to like get hot, and
like when you look at the season overall, there is
offense is awesome.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
The very first game of the season.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well more than that, really the first three weeks it's
pretty darn great.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It was. It was, but it was just an opening
game in Buffalo. I mean it was lights out for sure.
And then and then basically everything stalled on the on
the team after with all the injuries and Lamar Jackson
going down and getting hurt, and then he comes back
and he's been working his way back through at getting
back to full strength, and and then in addition to
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the hamstring injury that cost him time, he also has
dealt with knee injury and now an ankle injury, and
so those things all add up. And but I think that,
like I agree with you, I think that, like you,
you look at basically, there are seven games left in
the regular season, and if the Ravens are going to
be a team that makes noise in the playoffs, the
offense has basically seven games to get pointed in the
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right direction. And they've got all the pieces to do that.
And there's like there's signs and there's moments, and there's
like some real bright spots and.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like they haven't just quite put it all together yet correct. Yeah,
and the red zone offense. The red zone offense is
certainly another big portion of that, and that's something that
they've stressed a lot this week, is to be better.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
In the red zone and score more touchdowns. They ranked
twenty eighth in the league.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
They're scoring touchdowns forty seven point two percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That has to be better.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know, they were number one in the league last
year in the red zone. From a personnel schematic standpoint,
all those things, not much has changed, but the results
have changed, and so that's another area for improvement. They like,
we just got done talking about pass protection, running the
ball with consistency. They just haven't quite put it together.
Another part of that is who they've been facing. So
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they so far have faced six of the top eleven defenses.
I know, it's a little cherry pick. We're talking top
eleven six of them, six of the top eleven defenses
they've gone against so far. Yeah, Okay, it's going to
be a different story from here on out. New York
Jets ranked twentieth in total defense, twenty seventh in points
per game allowed. They're allowing twenty six point eight points
per game. Different challenge than last week against the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Right when the future player Player Defensive Player of the
Year Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
One hundred percent the number two defense in the league
in terms of yards lowed per game, they've been lights out.
And so when you're especially when you're grading the pass protection,
you kind of grate on a curve a little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
They sell out.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
They make you look bad sometimes and then you sometimes,
like we talked about, because of how aggressive they are,
sometimes then you crack them and you get a big play.
And that's exactly how that play game, you know, came
down to it. They they put a lot of bad
film out there. Eve when you're going against the Cleveland
Browns defense, you're gonna have some bad place, but you're
gonna beat them sometimes. And that's what the Ravens did.
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And so it's a different challenge against New York Jets
after that. The Bengals last in the league in total defense.
Pittsburgh Steelers, they're twenty eighth in the league in.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Total defense so far.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So let's also not forget about the kind of defenses
the Ravens have faced to this point of the season,
part of which without Lamar Jackson in the backfield.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, all of that. I think all of those are
great points.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I asked Tyler Linderbaum this week, like what do you
think is the key to having success in the rezone?
And he made the point in that part of the
field you need to be able to run the ball effectively,
and we haven't been able to do that to the
level that they expect and that they want to be
able to run the ball at. And so I mean,
I agree with him, like when when they're when you're
down inside the ten yard line and you're getting stopped
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and stopped in the backfield from minus too, like you're
going the wrong way. When you get close to the
end zone, you're going to be in trouble. And it's
like kind of an obvious statement there, But the Ravens
have to be able to get that push up front
and run the ball at that part of the field,
and that opens up other things. That opens the play action,
that opens the the improvised run game, Like it just
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creates so many other avenues that they can attack a defense.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
But they it does start with being able to run
the ball.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And I agree with Linderbaum's point on that, and I
think that the red zone as much as we just
talked about, like the big picture view of the offense
and winning the trenches and all that stuff, I think
that the red zone success could be like the success
of failure of this team big picture wise as we
look at the rest of the way, Like being good
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in situations is what so many games come down to
in the NFL because they're all teams are so close.
It feels like no year more so than this year
where it seems like the entire league is all right
in the same direction. And so if the Ravens are
gonna win some of these tough, tough games, make noise
in the playoffs, win the division, they're gonna have to
be really good in situations. And there's no bigger situation
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than red zone offense and red zone defense. And that's
actually like what's been a strength in recent weeks for
the Ravens defense. It's like they haven't really been they've
been good at that part of the field, and you
want to see the offense be able to punch it
in when they get down there. And Lamar is like
he is the like the biggest critic when it comes
like when he comes off the field and Tyler loops
trotting onto the field of Mars ticked. He is ticked,
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and so he his mindset is always like, you need seven,
you need seven, you need seven. And I think that
this will be an opportunity for the Ravens to put
that together.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But they've got to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, absolutely agree. I think it also turnovers, penalties, all
those things. One part of the Ravens offense that they
deserve credit for that I don't think has been talked
enough about is the lack of penalties, specifically holding penalties.
They have the third fewest holding penalties in the NFL.
And yeah, sacks are bad. You don't want to give
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up sacks. Holding penalties are also quite bad.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Basically close to it.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Close to it, you don't not lost it down, but
you're losing ten yards. Depends on how many yards you
lose on the sack. Sometimes you take a two yard
loss on a sack. I'd rather have that than a
holding penalty that backs me up ten. They're drive killers.
And so the Ravens have the third fewest holding penalties
in the league, which is a big departure from last
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year's offensive line. So when we're talking about the O
line in the past section all.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
So basically you just say the just same result. But
so you traded the holding penalties for the sacks.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I mean sure, sure, I just I think that should
be accounted for. And then it's also turnovers, too many
turn you have two interceptions. Part bad luck on those
you know against the Browns. But and generally speaking, Lamart
does a great job of protecting the ball in this
offense does a good job, but obviously fumbles early in
the year costs you. If they can if they can
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get better in the red zone, they can continue to
not have many penalties, not shoot yourself in the foot
basically with penalties and turnovers, get better in the red
zone and and protect Lamar better. Like I think a
lot of things are going to get cleared up with
this offense.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well, as we look at this game particular for the offense,
an interesting battle in this one is just top cornerback.
Now with Sauce Gardner gone, is Brandon Stevens Yep, a
guy that of course the Ravens know. Well, it's that
four seasons here, signed to big contract with the Jets
this offseason, and he's gonna spend plenty of time matchup
against Day Flowers plenty of time matched up against potentially
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DeAndre Hopkins or tz Walker potentially. Like, I think that
the Brandon Stevens matchup is definitely gonna be one that
we're watching closely, and that's gonna be kind of fun
to see. I'm sure that the Ravens receivers are especially
the guys like Zay Flowers who've gone against him for
a few years in practice, are going to be looking
forward to that opportunity. And on the flip side, I'm
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sure that Brandon Stevens is looking at it like, Hey,
this is my chance to Whenever a player goes up
against his former team, there's an added chip on their shoulder,
and I think that that's probably going to be the
case for Stevens of this game.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Absolutely, he's playing good ball. According to PFF, among cornerbacks
with at least fifty percent of their defensive snaps played,
ranks as the eighth best in the league so far
among all corners. Yeah, and he's getting targeted less out
in New York. He was one of the the top
targeted guys in the NFL touring his the past two years.
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Year in Baltimore, it's has he hasn't been on quite
as much there and he's and he's doing well. So
a guy that I think Ravens fans saw a lot
of and said, all right, you know he got he
got picked on a fair amount here and he had
a really great year and then kind of was just
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close in coverage but giving up a lot of catches
last year. And so a player that we've seen a
lot in practice and will be interesting to see who
wins that battle.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Brandon's the friend of the lounge. He came on the
Lounge a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, she got a root for that guy. I mean
he went from a college running back.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Not this week, ye's a certain one this week, but
like he's had a pretty dark good career yea.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And yeah, an interesting matchup with him, like that was
always his thing is like he was in tight coverage
ye but just gave up too many catches. And I'll
be curious to see if he ends up matchup against
Deandrew Hopkins, who's like the best guy in the league
at when he contested catches, like if the balls in
the air and it's a tight battle, he often wins
that and so I'll be curious to see if him
and Hopkins end up matched up against each other, and
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Lamar looks at de hops Way.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's time for my prediction. This got me. This got
me thinking I've been on a heater.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, with my predictions and all this this talk got
me thinking. Zay Flowers goes over one hundred and scores
a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Okay, all right, you're going. I just I thought you
were setting the Dantre Hopkins predictions.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Now I'm going Zay Flowers. Jay Flowers tops one hundred touchdown.
Lamar Jackson throws at least three.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Okay, the double prediction.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
The double prediction.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You didn't want to stop a saying now you're feeling hot,
might get a little cocky. This is a heat check
moment right here for you. Well, I hope that you're right.
I hope that you're right.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
So we're gonna take a quick break.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
When we come back, we'll dive into the defensive side
of the ball and talk about what the Raves need
to do to get the win. You're listening to the
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the big change for the Jests is that quarterback. It
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was Justin Fields now Tyrod Taylor. Actually to Rod Taylor.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You're saying, yes, finally he corrected people. What is the fifteen?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, he's been His career has been remarkable, honestly, one
of the better. Like when you look at that draft
for the Ravens and you look at him as a
six round pick. For him to have longevity that he's had,
credit credit to him and so it'll be fun to
see him back in Baltimore this game. But he's going
to get the start replacing Justin Fields and I'll be
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curious to see just what kind of juicy brings to
that offense. He can obviously run a little bit, as
one thing that's always struck with me is like he's
got a nice touch on the ball. He throws like
he throws a nice ball with a nice touch. And
it's going to be a different look for the Ravens
with him. Steven into the sorry lineup.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
To Rod does not offer the dual threat that Justin
Fields does. Yes, he he was a dual threat. You
know he could run coming out of college. I think
there's he's more staying in the pocket these days.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Can he do it? Yes, but.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Much different than when he was here, when he was
here a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Really, they want to get the passing game more in line,
more consistency, uh, And a guy who's seen a lot
of football, makes the right decisions, gets the ball out
like operates the offense at a higher level. Generally speaking,
the Ravens are going to have a tougher time fooling
to Rod Taylor than probably they would have with Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
The other thing I will say, and the Ravens talked
about this over the course of the week, don't be
surprised if Justin Fields has some packages.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Sure like that. Actually, you go back to that with
the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
He did that on the Steelers and that first game
in Pittsburgh. That's what those Steelers went to in critical
moments to win that game. Justin Fields stealed that game
with his legs, and so I do think that there's
definitely a possibility that we see some of him on
the ground in this and there could be packages, and
the Ravens are prepared for that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Garrett Wilson, their star wide receiver, is on injured reserve,
so the Ravens don't have that threat. May their top
receiving threat is really Mason Taylor, who's a rookie tight
end son of Jason Taylor, the former Dolphins pass rusher
and Hall of Famer. And so the Ravens, I think,
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primarily on defense, needs to contend with the Jets rushing attack.
Breese Hall is one of the best running backs in
the league. He has his twelfth most rushing yards so
far the season with seven hundred and twenty two.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
But really it's.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
The big play ability that he brings. He's explosive back.
He has seven runs of twenty or more yards. Only
two running backs in the league have more a chain
for Miami and Jonathan Taylor in Indianapolis. So Breese Hall
can he can get you in a heartbeat. And what
you have to do with your the Ravens defense is
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I have a hard time seeing Toad in this offense
just consistently moving the ball down the field. You can't
give up explosive plays and if you can turn them
over then it's it could get out of hand pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I think, Look, it's cliche, everyone says it, especially if
you're going up against team with a good running game.
Stop the running game, you should be in a good position.
But I think it's definitely true this game. I think
that like if the Ravens, if we're talking about a
situation where Breeze Hall is under I'll even say seventy five.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Like, if he's under.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Seventy five, I don't make a prediction here, I'll say
under seventy five, that's my prediction.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Okay, you're trying to get let's go on it.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
But like, if he's under seventy five yards, the Ravens
are gonna win this game. I'd be shocked. Otherwise it
would take some really fluky things, turn over special teams
plays and things like that. But like, it's hard for
me to see a situation where the Ravens don't win,
you know, and limit the right if they If they
accomplish that, I think they're gonna win. And so that's
where it kind of starts for this team. And that's
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a lot of responsibility on the guys up front. Draymond Jones,
who's been a great addition to this team since the
trade deadline. Kwan Smith first.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Dramup. It is his home debut.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, I'm sure he's excited about suiting up in the
bank for the first time as a member of the Ravens.
Kyle Hamilton, of course, being down there too, he affects
not just the past game, but the run game. So
I think the Ravens are really gonna They're gonna put
a lot of resources into slowing down that rushing attack
for New York. And they've been a really good team
over the course of their entire franchise history. It's slowing
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down the run. That doesn't mean that they're going to
be good at it this week. You have to do
it every single week. But I think that they will
be able to stop it and yeah, like I said,
I'm going with the under seventy five.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Well, generally speaking, at the Ravens run defense has been
pretty good, especially as of late they ranked twentieth in
the league, but in recent weeks. Judkins kind of got
going last week early in the game on their opening
drive and then Baltimore shut the door on that. And
so I have confidence in the Ravens defensive front to
get that time.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
So as we talk about things that are happening in
this game on Sunday, always fun to talk about the
game entertainment aspects.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Frisbee dogs. Oh yeah, at halftime.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Of this game, what are you gonna get your dog
out there?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
My dog would not do great catching a frisbee. Yeah,
she can move around a little bit, but then as
quickly to the couch. She doesn't have the stamina on
the frisbee dogs.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Wow, like Fatherlake dog.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Huh, exactly exactly. She's learned from me.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
So yeah, the frisbee dogs are gonna be a halftime show,
which is always fun. Our national anthem singer is Ryan Brown,
who is the daughter of Ravens kicking coach Randy Brown.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
If you didn't.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Listen or watch the episode from earlier in the week.
We had Randy and Ravens kicker Tyler Loop on the
podcast and a really fun conversation with them. We've got
a lot of feed on that one, actually, a lot
of emails the lounge at Ravens at NFL dot net.
Thank you for the emails, Yes, thank you for those
of people who enjoyed the conversation between Randy and Tyler.
But Randy's daughter Ryan is singing the national anthem and
so she's going to do a great job with that.
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It's also the Ravens Might Cause My Cleats game, and
so players have the opportunity to wear cleats for a
cause that's important to them. A number of players are
wearing these custom cleats are really cool. I've had a
chance to see some of them custom painted, really great
designs on them, all supporting different causes of their choice.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
We have a special section on our site and app
where you can check all this out, as well as
a photo gallery and hear from the players about why
they chose that cause.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, so check that out on our website as and
then you'll be able to see him in person on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
So it's going to be a big game for the Ravens.
As we talked about, this is.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
A game that is important as they are looking to
climb out of get one game over five hundred for
the first time this season, and that would be a
big accomplishment. And then the last thing I want to
mention is that coming out tomorrow, we've got a really
really cool conversation with the legend of the Game, Michael Orr.
He's back in town for the first time since his
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playing days ended, and we sat down with him on
these chairs for an episode of The Lounge and covered
a lot of ground and talking about his life and
his career. So many people know his story or a
version of his story.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, they know a version. He tells the true story
with us.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
And Michael was somebody who I really enjoyed during his
time here, his five seasons here after being a first
round draft pick. And it's gonna be a big moment
for him to be the Legend of the Game on Sunday.
So we're looking forward to that. And again, make sure
you check out that podcast. It's dropping Saturday morning. You
can listen to it wherever you.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You can also watch the full video on our Apple
website and our YouTube channel, so thank.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
You so much for listening.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
We'll be back with you again after that game on Sunday,
Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Ryan Mink here with Garrett Downning, and we are
going to get you set for Sunday's game team the
Ravens and Jets at M and T Banks Stadium. It's
at one o'clock kickoff and a game that the Ravens
really need to win. Ride in a four game winning streak,
want to run it to five and get over five
hundred for the first time this season. Garrett, the Ravens
are certainly favored to win this game, going against the
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Jets team that has really struggled this year.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
They come into this game sitting at two and.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Eight, and so this is kind of one of those
ones that the Ravens are heavily favored to win.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But you gotta go win it.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
No doubt about it. This is a game that if
the Ravens are going to go to the playoffs, you
need to win this game. It's a home game, your
double digit favorites, and you have to win the games
that you're supposed to win if you're going to be
a team that makes the playoffs, especially when you start
the season one to five, if you don't have any
ground to give up. So it's a got to have
a game for the Ravens, and I think they're in
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a good position to win it, but you got to
go out there and win it. And to me, like
I think that a lot of a lot of attention
this week is going to be as it always is,
of course, on Lamar Jackson in the offense, because that
unit has not played as well as we're used to seeing,
especially in recent years with Todd Monkin as the offensive
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coordinator and Lamar Jackson as the quarterback. We're used to
seeing forty points on the regular. We got used to
this in recent years and it has it's been more
of a struggle this season, especially in recent weeks as
Lamar's come back from the injury and he's missed practice
time in different weeks knee ankle this week of course,
time with the hamstring, and so you want to see
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the offense put it all together and just start to
look like the unit that we've been.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Used to see.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, absolutely, And I think Lamar Jackson's health is a
component of that. He missed practice on Wednesday again this
week with an ankle. That was the injury on the
injury report last week. It was a knee, knees soreness
coming out of Minnesota. So I think it's fair to say,
and we heard from Lamar he said, this is really
the first time I'm dealing with something like this where
I'm kind of banged up a little bit during the season,
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can still play in games, you know. It's not like
his knee injury of a few years ago and the
angle or whatever where he went on the he went
on the bench he couldn't play right, or the hamstring
even earlier this year where he couldn't play. These are
he's banged up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I mean, he took a lot of shots in that
game against Cleveland. Miles Garrett sacked him four times, and
those weren't the only hits that he had, Like he took,
he took kind of a beating.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Even before that, I mean the penalty that the guy
the Minnesota UH Minnesota Dallas Turner dropped all of his
weight on and Lamar was still like, man, that one
was bad. Yeah, and so yeah, And the crazy part
of it is what I find so ironic is that
Lamar came into the NFL and everybody was worried about, oh,
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is this guy going to be durable enough because of
his run. It's not the running that's gotten him beaten up.
He's so good at avoiding big hits as a runner.
When he can protect himself, he just has a knack
for it. It's now that he's running less. He's averaging
a career low in rushing attempts this season. Now he's
getting more beat up as a pocket passer, which is
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is often what we in Baltimore told the pundits who
were worried about his their ability, were like, look at
all these pocket passers who get hurt all the time. Yeah,
and that's kind of been the case for the Ravens
this year. When Lamar can protect himself on the run,
he's a little bit better off. He can only do
so much in the pocket sometimes.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Look, I think the main thing as we're talking about
Lamar or the offense and the protection and the hits
and like all this stuff, I think that at the
bottom line, he has taken too many hits, too many
sacks this year.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He's taying twenty three sacks so far this year, which
is the same number he had all of last season,
and he missed some action this year.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Right, It's just too many and you can break down
each one of those individually, and there's different layers to it,
and so the Ravens are looking at all that stuff,
but at the bottom line, like there's just too many
sacks and too many hits. And so I think that
as we get into this second half of the season,
and I think what's going to go a long way
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and kind of determining the success of this team is
going to be how well they're able to protect Lamar
and to win the line of scrimmage. That's just like
you could probably make that same argument for most teams
in the league. And I think starting that this week
in terms of going up against this Jets defense with
a defensive head coach and being able to like a
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stab with Aaron Glenn form of defensive coordinator with the
Detroit Lions, being able to win the line of scrimmage,
provide the adequate protection for Lamar and get the ground
game going. I think that that is going to be
important for the team. You can say that every week,
of course, but I think that, like where this team
is right now, they need to do a really good
job of protecting their quarterback. Considering that the Ravens is
gonna be playing two games in five days.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I agree with that. The Jets have some pretty
darn good pass rushers. Will McDonald the fourth has seven sacks.
This here, Jermaine Johnson another talented pass rusher. They trade
away Quinnin Williams to the Dallas Cowboys, their monster defensive tackle.
They also trade away they're arguably their best cornerback or
best player, and one of the best cornerbacks in the league,
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in Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts. So but this defense,
even though they trade away two of maybe their best players,
still has some talent on that defense.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It does. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
The thing that I want to point to in regards
to the sacks is the weird thing is, you know,
Lamar's taken a sack on thirty percent of his pressures,
which is certainly higher than he's accustomed to. He is
not only good at avoiding hits when he's on the run,
he is also good at avoiding sacks generally as a
passer in the pocket and maneuvering around. I do think
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like the the hits that he's taken that we've talked
about could be impacting that you know, he's not avoiding
as many sacks as he has before. Maybe he's he's
not getting out and running away from those it turned
into scrambles or whatnot. Maybe there's just too much pressure
and it's closing in all around him. There's multiple, you know,
avenues at multiple reasons for that, but that is in
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the negative plays and all the sacks, I think are
a pretty big part of what's holding this Ravens offense back.
And to be honest, that in a way is what's
holding this team back. I think that if the Ravens
offense gets on a roll and heats up, and Lamar
Jackson gets on a roll and heats up, this team's
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gonna be really tough to contend with. And now we're
back to talking about you know, Okay, this team, this
team's gonna win the division, which I think they certainly
have a chance, but like that's what it's gonna take,
you know, can they make noise in the playoffs. That's
what it's gonna take. Is this offense getting on a roll.
And I think that this game Sunday at MPT Banks
Stadium is an important one for starting that process.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, you want the offense to like get hot, and
like when you look at the season overall, there is
offense is awesome.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
The very first game of the season.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well more than that, really the first three weeks it's
pretty darn great.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It was. It was, but it was just an opening
game in Buffalo. I mean it was lights out for sure.
And then and then basically everything stalled on the on
the team after with all the injuries and Lamar Jackson
going down and getting hurt, and then he comes back
and he's been working his way back through at getting
back to full strength, and and then in addition to
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the hamstring injury that cost him time, he also has
dealt with knee injury and now an ankle injury, and
so those things all add up. And but I think that,
like I agree with you, I think that, like you,
you look at basically, there are seven games left in
the regular season, and if the Ravens are going to
be a team that makes noise in the playoffs, the
offense has basically seven games to get pointed in the
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right direction. And they've got all the pieces to do that.
And there's like there's signs and there's moments, and there's
like some real bright spots and.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like they haven't just quite put it all together yet correct. Yeah,
and the red zone offense. The red zone offense is
certainly another big portion of that, and that's something that
they've stressed a lot this week, is to be better.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
In the red zone and score more touchdowns. They ranked
twenty eighth in the league.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
They're scoring touchdowns forty seven point two percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That has to be better.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know, they were number one in the league last
year in the red zone. From a personnel schematic standpoint,
all those things, not much has changed, but the results
have changed, and so that's another area for improvement. They like,
we just got done talking about pass protection, running the
ball with consistency. They just haven't quite put it together.
Another part of that is who they've been facing. So
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they so far have faced six of the top eleven defenses.
I know, it's a little cherry pick. We're talking top
eleven six of them, six of the top eleven defenses
they've gone against so far. Yeah, Okay, it's going to
be a different story from here on out. New York
Jets ranked twentieth in total defense, twenty seventh in points
per game allowed. They're allowing twenty six point eight points
per game. Different challenge than last week against the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Right when the future player Player Defensive Player of the
Year Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
One hundred percent the number two defense in the league
in terms of yards lowed per game, they've been lights out.
And so when you're especially when you're grading the pass protection,
you kind of grate on a curve a little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
They sell out.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
They make you look bad sometimes and then you sometimes,
like we talked about, because of how aggressive they are,
sometimes then you crack them and you get a big play.
And that's exactly how that play game, you know, came
down to it. They they put a lot of bad
film out there. Eve when you're going against the Cleveland
Browns defense, you're gonna have some bad place, but you're
gonna beat them sometimes. And that's what the Ravens did.
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And so it's a different challenge against New York Jets
after that. The Bengals last in the league in total defense.
Pittsburgh Steelers, they're twenty eighth in the league in.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Total defense so far.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So let's also not forget about the kind of defenses
the Ravens have faced to this point of the season,
part of which without Lamar Jackson in the backfield.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, all of that. I think all of those are
great points.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I asked Tyler Linderbaum this week, like what do you
think is the key to having success in the rezone?
And he made the point in that part of the
field you need to be able to run the ball effectively,
and we haven't been able to do that to the
level that they expect and that they want to be
able to run the ball at. And so I mean,
I agree with him, like when when they're when you're
down inside the ten yard line and you're getting stopped
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and stopped in the backfield from minus too, like you're
going the wrong way. When you get close to the
end zone, you're going to be in trouble. And it's
like kind of an obvious statement there, But the Ravens
have to be able to get that push up front
and run the ball at that part of the field,
and that opens up other things. That opens the play action,
that opens the the improvised run game, Like it just
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creates so many other avenues that they can attack a defense.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
But they it does start with being able to run
the ball.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And I agree with Linderbaum's point on that, and I
think that the red zone as much as we just
talked about, like the big picture view of the offense
and winning the trenches and all that stuff, I think
that the red zone success could be like the success
of failure of this team big picture wise as we
look at the rest of the way, Like being good
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in situations is what so many games come down to
in the NFL because they're all teams are so close.
It feels like no year more so than this year
where it seems like the entire league is all right
in the same direction. And so if the Ravens are
gonna win some of these tough, tough games, make noise
in the playoffs, win the division, they're gonna have to
be really good in situations. And there's no bigger situation
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than red zone offense and red zone defense. And that's
actually like what's been a strength in recent weeks for
the Ravens defense. It's like they haven't really been they've
been good at that part of the field, and you
want to see the offense be able to punch it
in when they get down there. And Lamar is like
he is the like the biggest critic when it comes
like when he comes off the field and Tyler loops
trotting onto the field of Mars ticked. He is ticked,
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and so he his mindset is always like, you need seven,
you need seven, you need seven. And I think that
this will be an opportunity for the Ravens to put
that together.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But they've got to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, absolutely agree. I think it also turnovers, penalties, all
those things. One part of the Ravens offense that they
deserve credit for that I don't think has been talked
enough about is the lack of penalties, specifically holding penalties.
They have the third fewest holding penalties in the NFL.
And yeah, sacks are bad. You don't want to give
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up sacks. Holding penalties are also quite bad.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Basically close to it.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Close to it, you don't not lost it down, but
you're losing ten yards. Depends on how many yards you
lose on the sack. Sometimes you take a two yard
loss on a sack. I'd rather have that than a
holding penalty that backs me up ten. They're drive killers.
And so the Ravens have the third fewest holding penalties
in the league, which is a big departure from last
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year's offensive line. So when we're talking about the O
line in the past section all.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
So basically you just say the just same result. But
so you traded the holding penalties for the sacks.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I mean sure, sure, I just I think that should
be accounted for. And then it's also turnovers, too many
turn you have two interceptions. Part bad luck on those
you know against the Browns. But and generally speaking, Lamart
does a great job of protecting the ball in this
offense does a good job, but obviously fumbles early in
the year costs you. If they can if they can
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get better in the red zone, they can continue to
not have many penalties, not shoot yourself in the foot
basically with penalties and turnovers, get better in the red
zone and and protect Lamar better. Like I think a
lot of things are going to get cleared up with
this offense.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well, as we look at this game particular for the offense,
an interesting battle in this one is just top cornerback.
Now with Sauce Gardner gone, is Brandon Stevens Yep, a
guy that of course the Ravens know. Well, it's that
four seasons here, signed to big contract with the Jets
this offseason, and he's gonna spend plenty of time matchup
against Day Flowers plenty of time matched up against potentially
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DeAndre Hopkins or tz Walker potentially. Like, I think that
the Brandon Stevens matchup is definitely gonna be one that
we're watching closely, and that's gonna be kind of fun
to see. I'm sure that the Ravens receivers are especially
the guys like Zay Flowers who've gone against him for
a few years in practice, are going to be looking
forward to that opportunity. And on the flip side, I'm
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sure that Brandon Stevens is looking at it like, Hey,
this is my chance to Whenever a player goes up
against his former team, there's an added chip on their shoulder,
and I think that that's probably going to be the
case for Stevens of this game.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Absolutely, he's playing good ball. According to PFF, among cornerbacks
with at least fifty percent of their defensive snaps played,
ranks as the eighth best in the league so far
among all corners. Yeah, and he's getting targeted less out
in New York. He was one of the the top
targeted guys in the NFL touring his the past two years.
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Year in Baltimore, it's has he hasn't been on quite
as much there and he's and he's doing well. So
a guy that I think Ravens fans saw a lot
of and said, all right, you know he got he
got picked on a fair amount here and he had
a really great year and then kind of was just
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close in coverage but giving up a lot of catches
last year. And so a player that we've seen a
lot in practice and will be interesting to see who
wins that battle.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Brandon's the friend of the lounge. He came on the
Lounge a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, she got a root for that guy. I mean
he went from a college running back.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Not this week, ye's a certain one this week, but
like he's had a pretty dark good career yea.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And yeah, an interesting matchup with him, like that was
always his thing is like he was in tight coverage
ye but just gave up too many catches. And I'll
be curious to see if he ends up matchup against
Deandrew Hopkins, who's like the best guy in the league
at when he contested catches, like if the balls in
the air and it's a tight battle, he often wins
that and so I'll be curious to see if him
and Hopkins end up matched up against each other, and
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Lamar looks at de hops Way.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's time for my prediction. This got me. This got
me thinking I've been on a heater.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, with my predictions and all this this talk got
me thinking. Zay Flowers goes over one hundred and scores
a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Okay, all right, you're going. I just I thought you
were setting the Dantre Hopkins predictions.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Now I'm going Zay Flowers. Jay Flowers tops one hundred touchdown.
Lamar Jackson throws at least three.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Okay, the double prediction.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
The double prediction.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You didn't want to stop a saying now you're feeling hot,
might get a little cocky. This is a heat check
moment right here for you. Well, I hope that you're right.
I hope that you're right.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
So we're gonna take a quick break.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
When we come back, we'll dive into the defensive side
of the ball and talk about what the Raves need
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the big change for the Jests is that quarterback. It
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was Justin Fields now Tyrod Taylor. Actually to Rod Taylor.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You're saying, yes, finally he corrected people. What is the fifteen?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, he's been His career has been remarkable, honestly, one
of the better. Like when you look at that draft
for the Ravens and you look at him as a
six round pick. For him to have longevity that he's had,
credit credit to him and so it'll be fun to
see him back in Baltimore this game. But he's going
to get the start replacing Justin Fields and I'll be
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curious to see just what kind of juicy brings to
that offense. He can obviously run a little bit, as
one thing that's always struck with me is like he's
got a nice touch on the ball. He throws like
he throws a nice ball with a nice touch. And
it's going to be a different look for the Ravens
with him. Steven into the sorry lineup.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
To Rod does not offer the dual threat that Justin
Fields does. Yes, he he was a dual threat. You
know he could run coming out of college. I think
there's he's more staying in the pocket these days.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Can he do it? Yes, but.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Much different than when he was here, when he was
here a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Really, they want to get the passing game more in line,
more consistency, uh, And a guy who's seen a lot
of football, makes the right decisions, gets the ball out
like operates the offense at a higher level. Generally speaking,
the Ravens are going to have a tougher time fooling
to Rod Taylor than probably they would have with Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
The other thing I will say, and the Ravens talked
about this over the course of the week, don't be
surprised if Justin Fields has some packages.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Sure like that. Actually, you go back to that with
the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
He did that on the Steelers and that first game
in Pittsburgh. That's what those Steelers went to in critical
moments to win that game. Justin Fields stealed that game
with his legs, and so I do think that there's
definitely a possibility that we see some of him on
the ground in this and there could be packages, and
the Ravens are prepared for that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Garrett Wilson, their star wide receiver, is on injured reserve,
so the Ravens don't have that threat. May their top
receiving threat is really Mason Taylor, who's a rookie tight
end son of Jason Taylor, the former Dolphins pass rusher
and Hall of Famer. And so the Ravens, I think,
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primarily on defense, needs to contend with the Jets rushing attack.
Breese Hall is one of the best running backs in
the league. He has his twelfth most rushing yards so
far the season with seven hundred and twenty two.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
But really it's.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
The big play ability that he brings. He's explosive back.
He has seven runs of twenty or more yards. Only
two running backs in the league have more a chain
for Miami and Jonathan Taylor in Indianapolis. So Breese Hall
can he can get you in a heartbeat. And what
you have to do with your the Ravens defense is
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I have a hard time seeing Toad in this offense
just consistently moving the ball down the field. You can't
give up explosive plays and if you can turn them
over then it's it could get out of hand pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I think, Look, it's cliche, everyone says it, especially if
you're going up against team with a good running game.
Stop the running game, you should be in a good position.
But I think it's definitely true this game. I think
that like if the Ravens, if we're talking about a
situation where Breeze Hall is under I'll even say seventy five.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Like, if he's under.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Seventy five, I don't make a prediction here, I'll say
under seventy five, that's my prediction.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Okay, you're trying to get let's go on it.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
But like, if he's under seventy five yards, the Ravens
are gonna win this game. I'd be shocked. Otherwise it
would take some really fluky things, turn over special teams
plays and things like that. But like, it's hard for
me to see a situation where the Ravens don't win,
you know, and limit the right if they If they
accomplish that, I think they're gonna win. And so that's
where it kind of starts for this team. And that's
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a lot of responsibility on the guys up front. Draymond Jones,
who's been a great addition to this team since the
trade deadline. Kwan Smith first.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Dramup. It is his home debut.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, I'm sure he's excited about suiting up in the
bank for the first time as a member of the Ravens.
Kyle Hamilton, of course, being down there too, he affects
not just the past game, but the run game. So
I think the Ravens are really gonna They're gonna put
a lot of resources into slowing down that rushing attack
for New York. And they've been a really good team
over the course of their entire franchise history. It's slowing
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down the run. That doesn't mean that they're going to
be good at it this week. You have to do
it every single week. But I think that they will
be able to stop it and yeah, like I said,
I'm going with the under seventy five.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Well, generally speaking, at the Ravens run defense has been
pretty good, especially as of late they ranked twentieth in
the league, but in recent weeks. Judkins kind of got
going last week early in the game on their opening
drive and then Baltimore shut the door on that. And
so I have confidence in the Ravens defensive front to
get that time.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
So as we talk about things that are happening in
this game on Sunday, always fun to talk about the
game entertainment aspects.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Frisbee dogs. Oh yeah, at halftime.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Of this game, what are you gonna get your dog
out there?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
My dog would not do great catching a frisbee. Yeah,
she can move around a little bit, but then as
quickly to the couch. She doesn't have the stamina on
the frisbee dogs.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Wow, like Fatherlake dog.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Huh, exactly exactly. She's learned from me.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
So yeah, the frisbee dogs are gonna be a halftime show,
which is always fun. Our national anthem singer is Ryan Brown,
who is the daughter of Ravens kicking coach Randy Brown.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
If you didn't.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Listen or watch the episode from earlier in the week.
We had Randy and Ravens kicker Tyler Loop on the
podcast and a really fun conversation with them. We've got
a lot of feed on that one, actually, a lot
of emails the lounge at Ravens at NFL dot net.
Thank you for the emails, Yes, thank you for those
of people who enjoyed the conversation between Randy and Tyler.
But Randy's daughter Ryan is singing the national anthem and
so she's going to do a great job with that.
(23:13):
It's also the Ravens Might Cause My Cleats game, and
so players have the opportunity to wear cleats for a
cause that's important to them. A number of players are
wearing these custom cleats are really cool. I've had a
chance to see some of them custom painted, really great
designs on them, all supporting different causes of their choice.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
We have a special section on our site and app
where you can check all this out, as well as
a photo gallery and hear from the players about why
they chose that cause.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, so check that out on our website as and
then you'll be able to see him in person on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
So it's going to be a big game for the Ravens.
As we talked about, this is.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
A game that is important as they are looking to
climb out of get one game over five hundred for
the first time this season, and that would be a
big accomplishment. And then the last thing I want to
mention is that coming out tomorrow, we've got a really
really cool conversation with the legend of the Game, Michael Orr.
He's back in town for the first time since his
(24:07):
playing days ended, and we sat down with him on
these chairs for an episode of The Lounge and covered
a lot of ground and talking about his life and
his career. So many people know his story or a
version of his story.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, they know a version. He tells the true story
with us.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
And Michael was somebody who I really enjoyed during his
time here, his five seasons here after being a first
round draft pick. And it's gonna be a big moment
for him to be the Legend of the Game on Sunday.
So we're looking forward to that. And again, make sure
you check out that podcast. It's dropping Saturday morning. You
can listen to it wherever you.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You can also watch the full video on our Apple
website and our YouTube channel, so thank.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
You so much for listening.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
We'll be back with you again after that game on Sunday,
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