Ravens Pro Bowl WR Zay Flowers joins team insiders Ryan Mink and Clifton Brown to talk about his aim for the 2025 season, why this year's team feels special, his relationship with Lamar Jackson, and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink
here at Clifton Brown and we are thrilled to sit
down with Zay Flowers and Zay, you can pretty muscle
up this year.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I gotta start there is the.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hill workouts take take us through the bigger Za Flowers.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I mean I did it. I did a few things different.
I worked out.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
You know, I had to go through rehab, so I
worked out with a different strength coach this year. He
did my rehab and he also did my lifts and
I told him I wanted to gain a little bit
to like protect myself a little bit more because I'm
be running straight this year, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Mean run running straight.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
I had to put on some muscle, but I got
a I gag like ten pounds, So it's been good.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know, through the season, you lose it.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
So we'll probably be back at my normal weight by
the time Game five coming on.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's a that's a good amount of weight there for
a wide receiver of your size.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Is this like the biggest that you've played at before?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, it's the heaviest I've ever been, Like, I never
got over one eighty and it's my first time I
actually breaking like one eighty five. I'll wake up in
the morning and step on the scale and one eighty five,
I'm like, I got to chill on the breath.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It sounds like me. It sounds like me. I got
to chill a little more than you. But I mean
it doesn't look like it's affected your speed out there.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
No, No, that's that's the heel see, that's where the
hills coming. So like while I was gaining, I just
go out and hit the heils like every day that
I could, and then I do some speed work on
the field. But I was trying to do a lot
of like resistance work and a lot of like he'll
work just to get my weight moving, just to get
a better feel for it.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Got you, got youa So you've alway been You've always
been a game breaker. But do you think this added
weight a couple of year speed make even harder, maybe
to bring down some of those catches, run out the
catches that you can turn into a long play.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I think I think it a help.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But I think I've been I've been making people miss
breaking tackles. I think that's like one of my best
things about myself, Like breaking tackles, making people miss. I
think it's just for more protection, more protection of myself
and being able to if I'm running straight or dropping
my shoulder, I could do that to get a first
down or whatever I need.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I know you talked when the season started, at least
in the spring about more long passes that you wanted
to be part of that. Yeah, how was that comming
as far as training camp, you and Lamar and the
total offense getting you to be more of a deep threat.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I mean we're working.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
We all working, like every receiver working on everybody want
you know, everybody wanted to ball d everybody want to
run deep route. So we literally everybody have been part
of it so far. Like de Hop been a part
of it. You'll see de Hop some days, you'll see
me some days, Bait. You'll even see Tiland or Test sometimes.
So it's like, you know, we want those explosive plays.
We got people that are make plays under ten or
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fifteen yards and make an explosive play, but we wanted
those plays down the field. You want contested catches, we
want all those like we want to be part of
one of those groups that's the best in the league.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Can you take me inside the hill workouts and how
those came about, and how did you recruit Lamar to
come join or how did it all go down.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
So, like me, I keep my saying schedule even out
of season. So I wake up at thirty and then
I'll go do my first workout. I'll do my first workout,
and by the time I usually like was done with
my first workout, Lamar w'd be like, bro, youre going
to work out again? Like you'd be like, while you
up so early? Like he was always he was always up,
but he wasn't really like he was just chilling. And
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then yeah, he was easy into it. Then I go
hit the hills around like ten thirty eleven, and then
he like it tells big again. He's like, bro, you
gotta let me know when you go next time. So
the next time I went, I let him know, and
then we was all out there just running, Like I
go out there like three or four times a week
just to hit the hills and work on my stamina.
And he was like, I need some of that. So
we just start hitting the hills and working together. Then
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we'll go throw it right after.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Right, That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So I mean, how close do you guys live to
each other in the off season, like you can just
see each other up and get together whenever.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah, pretty close, pretty close. Yeah, it's not too
far from each other. It's like, you know, it's fifteen minutes.
Then we'll just meet up at the workout, run the hills,
play some music, live.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Throw the ball, and then go eat and go right
back to what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, you two have just a special relationship, like, yeah,
I think that that's part of part of your success
on the field too, right, It's like you're just floor
to guys. Yeah, and like you can relate so well
to each other. Tell me about that relationship, how it's
grown and changed and whatnot, and how much it does
kind of fuel into your success.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
He just won't.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
He won't not just me, he won't all the receivers
just play football. He'll tell us all the time, like, Bro,
what you was doing when you was in Litlely whatever
he was doing that Boston College, do it here and
we go with jest, we're gonna do what we gotta do.
He just want to win, so like that's that's all
our mentality.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
We just want to win.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And whatever he say, do or however he feel about something.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That's that's what that's what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
It seems like the wide receiver room keeps getting stronger
and stronger since you've been here.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Every year.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
You've got two young guys with Jonte and Tedz, who
you've been here longer than them. What are some of
the things you've told them about similar to this offense,
and how do you see their progress this year?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I just I really tell them, like if you with Lamar,
like he a different quarterback, so like he not what
you used to like he extended to play three times
as long as anybody else, So you got to be
ready to run. And I tell him, just just be
who you are, Like you don't you don't got to
come in and try to be me.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You don't got to come in and try to be bait.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Whatever you're good at, bro, Like that's what we want.
We don't want nothing besides yourself.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
And with de hamp he's the older guy.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
It was all the tricks, but he hasn't played with
Lamar either, And in this offense, what do you tell
him about, you know, fitting in here and being with
you guys. The potential for you guys to really do
big things.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
If I'm being honest, hop hop already on board.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
He going already know everything, like and he happy to
see the young guys like he loved me and Bait,
like he talking to me and Bait all the time.
He talk about the young guys, the younger guys. But
he like our biggest fan. Like so it kind of
like motivated us, and he keep us with positive, good
energy and that's just good to have around with somebody
older with the experience. So it's just like you allays,
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be calm no matter where you're going or or like
whatever what position you're in, or if it's a hard game,
he's gonna keep you calm. If it's an easier game,
he's gonna keep you where your head's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
What's it like for you playing with him. I'm sure
he was a guy when you were growing up. You
watch him, you're like, man, that dude's a boss.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Ye.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I always joke and I'd be like, yo, so you
started when I was eleven years old. Now I'm playing
with you, like, he'll just start laughing. But I've been
watching I've been watching him for a long time. I
really can't emulate his game. He got bigger hands, he
taller like I played the game at like probably a
little bit quicker. But he was always somebody I watched,
like I love watching receivers, and I got to play
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with two great receivers.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oh and exactly that's the thing with Odell.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I mean, I know he was such a mentor for
you when you were first coming into the league, you know,
to learn from two of the goats. Really for you,
how has that benefited you?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
It just it just taught me to be myself, honestly,
like they just see. They taught me how to like
treat my body or like how to longevity or like
how to stay in it and take care of your body.
And Nelly was also a guy too. Nelly was also
a guy that he did what they do it for me,
Like he took care of me, like introduced me to
people that I needed to work with or take care
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of my body. Like those guys that's why they was
able to play so long because how they take care
of their body. And that's that's kind of like my
only problem. Like that's what I'm learning, Like eat better,
get on a better schedule like stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, it does seem like you're making that more priority.
You know, all the off season stuff and the weight
and the hills and all that stuff. And I'm sure
the injuries, you know, last year's injury going to the
playoffs played into that. Is it very different from now
where you're at in terms of all the off the
field professionalism kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Absolutely, it's not even close. It's like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Just once I like, I love routine, So once I
got into a routine and once I learned actually how
to do it and like how to move around and
how to be professional, it was way easier for me.
That's why this off season I was able to gain
my weight, I was able to do what I needed
to do. I was able to throw more, run more,
learn more. Like, I was able to do a lot
more stuff just by like keeping up strict to schedule
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and just getting ready for the season.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
So what kind of foods are in and what what
had to go?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I ain't gonna lie. I'm still on the bad die though.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I'm a bad die, but I'm trying to get rid
of the McDonald's. I'm trying to get rid of the Windys.
But I've been eating my whole life. I'm like Hey,
this what got me here? You feel me like, Hey,
this is getting on my way.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
For I like all that. I like, I like all
fast food, Sarah Snyders.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Don't listen to this, Sarah.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
No, sometimes I come back before practice with some McDonalds,
some fries and a full piece.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
She just started laughing. Yeah, because I.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Burn it off at practice, you know what I mean,
Like I come here to work out every morning and
then just burn it off right at practice. So she like,
you good to eat whatever. It's just you gotta watch
it sometimes. But getting mad at me sometimes you're like, yo,
that's why, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's why that.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I'm like, all right, bro, I'm gonna fix it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It's work in progress for three. Yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
We had Rashad Bateman on the pod and he was
talking about you and he's like, man, say, say is
a special player.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And he's like, if they wanted to go.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Off and have thirteen hundred and fifteen hundred yards like that,
that would happen, right, But that's just like not how
our offense works. We have so many absoluteies, right, and
Derek Henry in the backfield Lamarr of course, you know
all these guys, Like do you kind of see it
that same way?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And how challenging is it for you to be?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Like, Hey, I know I could, I could have more
production if I was the only guy.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Oh man, if I'm being honest, I'm a winner. So yeah,
if I got to get less yard is to win.
I mean, that's what I'm going with. And everybody on
our team.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Is a dog like bait. Bro bait.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Bait can go somewhere and put up numbers itself, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It's just it's me bait.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Mark Isaiah lightly is like Charlie, Charlie coming along. We
got Derek Harry in a back I feel just as
they are keating. So it's like the ball can only
go around so many times. You can only have so
many possessions. And I know everybody when they touch the ball,
they gonna make the best out of it, like whether
that's picking up ten or whether they getting the screen
and pick it up third, Like they just gonna make
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the best of they whatever they.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Touch the ball.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
So like, I don't mind, I don't mind getting the
ball a lot less and winning. If I'm being honest,
I'll ready to be a winner, then go out there
and get the ball twenty times and put up two
hundred and lose, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So I don't really have a problem with that. I'm
a winner.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I'm always picking winning over self for like self, how
do you want to say it?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Accolade?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, yeah, over accolades.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
That's funny because you do have to deal with someone
that At Boston College, I mean, you were the guy. Yeah,
you were getting your numbers, yeah, but the team wasn't
winning a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
How much would that help you grow? I guess?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
And how much do you appreciate being somewhere like here
where that's not the cakes.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I mean at Boston College, it's like I mean, it
was in the a CC, so it was a lot
of teams that recruited better than us. A lot of
people didn't want to come to Boston too. So once
it was once we was like two and something, I'm like,
all right, now it's trying to get it.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's trying to get mine a little bit. But here it's.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Like like it helped me. Like I went through the loser,
you know what I mean, Like I had losing seasons.
I had this, I had all the self production, but
I'm at home at the end of the year, like
I ain't doing nothing. I ain't going to a bowl game,
I ain't doing this. So it was like, hey, I
rather go play in the playoffs and have a lot
less than stay at home and just chill.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
You say, you know that winning matters more than accolades,
But to be named to the Pro Bowl after just
your second season, like, that's that's something I'm sure that
when you were growing up, you're.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Like to be a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I used to see it in Hawaiian and be like, yo,
that's crazy, Like I ain't even imagine getting to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah. I just used to be like like I was.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Just happy to see the Pro Bowl on TV, you
know what I mean. But to be a part of
it and get selected, it was crazy. Yeah, definitely one
of the craziest moments of my life.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Is it, you know, to be like in that echelon
of wide receivers, what does that mean to you? And
does it does it push you to be like, hey,
I want to be known. Is you know even that
next tier of guys, you know what I mean, the top,
the very very tippity top.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, definitely pushed me. I mean the work I put in,
I feel like I deserve it. I wake up every
day and grind, so it's like that's what I work for,
that's that's I.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Want to win.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And if it comes with accolades, I take it, like
if I come with the Pro Bowl, I take it.
But I just put the work in. I just that's all.
I that's all I know my whole life. Just work
and then have fun with it.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Everybody knows what this team's goal is, and it seems
to be talking with you guys that if anything, the
way some of the seasons vendor here recently has made
you guys even more confident that you're going to do it,
not the other way up around.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Do you see it that way?
Speaker 5 (12:46):
And why is it that this team seems like, hey,
we're going to do this.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I absolutely say it that way because it's like it's
nothing the other team did to make us lose. You
know what I mean is it was all self inflicted
that the other team then drop the ball. The other team,
I mean they probably punched it out. It was bad
ball hearing, but that's still on us because we ball
carry every day. We teach that every day, so I
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don't feel like there's nothing the other team did.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Is all.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
We feel like it's always us, like we can get better,
Like we can get better. So we know we just
won't play away. We won't play away, not even probably.
It's just like sometimes the ball them fall your way.
So and we know that, like it's football at the
end of the day, and we just know it's a
lot of self inflicted stuff. And once we once we
get that right, we know where we're going.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Does this team feel just absolutely stacked?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's I mean stacked and confident. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
You could be stacked and still still not a very
good team, you know what I mean, Like everybody just
don't mess as well.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, describe that. What is it that you see about
this team that like takes it to that next level?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I mean everybody messed well here. It's like everybody got
the same mentality. Everybody here to grind, everybody here to
work hard. And then we also hang out with each other,
like we've been hanging out with each other a lot
more like going to dinners or just chilling watching TV
or watching old receivers on the TV. So we've been
doing a lot more stuff together and it's like a
brotherhood here. It's like, I ain't really never been nowhere
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like it where you come to the locker room and
you could just come in and lives.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
You're like, it's hard to have a bad day.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's cool. So what old receivers are you watching on TV?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
All you we was watching Michael Irv and Santana Moss,
Steve Smith. Who else was watching? Jerry Rice, Randy Moss.
I mean me and l sat one day and probably
watched like nine hours is just the old receivers.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
He was like, this is what we need to do.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I'm telling you, bro, like y'all got to like everything,
don't got to be this or that. Like he just
he's just like that man just want to win. If
I'm being honest, Like, I don't think I've ever seen
somebody like talk about it as much like as him. Like,
even you have a normal conversation with you want to
go eat, that's going to evolve to football, talk about
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winning it. But I understand him. Though he wanted to win.
He wanted to get one of those rings. He wanted
to bring it back to Baltimore. He want to see
the city proud and he you know he, I mean
he worked for it. He been putting the work in,
so we want that for him too. That's why we
come out here every day and do what we do.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And after last year, the way last year ended for you,
I'm sure that that fire is very much burning into
yeah as well.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, I mean I feel better than before. I feel
better than last year and learned some things from being injured.
And I wish I could have played, but we know
to the next we get him first game of the year,
and I'm looking forward to it right well.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
My parting idea here is when you're watching film of
the old wide receivers, if you want to, if you
want to clown on DeAndre, you just put him on it.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, he had a dirty fact fact.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I mean how long he got here, like eleven, twelve
years ago?
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Thirteen?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Hey, that's old enough to have a different type of
he had. He ain't had four K. I don't think
he had four k backman. Oh no way, yeah, party
four eighty or something.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Oh no, you know, it's just an idea.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
The part of me just go on today. We might
put him on today.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
We'll say thanks lob.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
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You must be twenty one or older to play. So
great to hear from Zay Flowers. And I mean he
he really broke the Ravens wide receiver kind of I
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don't know what the right word is here, skid sure ja,
I don't want to say, I don't like to say
the curse word, but but yeah, I mean he he was.
He's the first Pro Bowl Ravens wide receiver that they drafted.
And so and now Ruth Rashad Bateman, I mean, now
there's some d hop and all these guys. The Ravens
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have their best wide receiver room I think in franchise history.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
I think this is the best ever. Yes, I would
say that. And Zay just brings so much positive energy.
Even when he comes in here for something like this,
he seems like he's always upbeat.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
He looks more.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Than ready to have a great year. I mean, his
body looks great. All the work he put in this offseason.
He became a pro bowler quickly. I mean two years yep.
He came into the NFL to position where a lot
of guys don't do that right away and became a
main cog in the offense. So confident player, really popular player,
and I think as good as he was last year,
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he could be even better this year.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
As shifty and as fast as ever. I mean, the
first passive training camp went over the middle of Zave
Flowers scene exploded up the field, rin past the secondary
for like a seventy yard touchdown. So yeah, I mean,
he can go off at any at any point. It's
just that he has so many players around him, and
that's what makes the Ravens so dangerous. I mean, got Lee, Yeah,
we were talking. We were watching one on one today,
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I was sitting next to somebody, I said, who if
you're a cornerback, who are you hoping to draw to? Say? Yeah,
I'll take that guy one on one. No, I want
no parts is say, Flowers says shifty? Is he is
one on one? Are you kidding me? It's a cheat
code out there. Bateman's so slick with his route running
the hop will body you up.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
It's just tough, right.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You put the three of them out there, the number
three corner for the other teams.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
In serious trump he's sweating.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
It's a mismatch, and that's what a quarterback like Lamar
Jackson can really exploit.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
That's what you want.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
I mean, there's always going to be a mismatch with
the weapons of Ravens have now somewhere on the field.
You just have to find it. Give them war enough
time to find it, and they're going to be hard
to stop. And then we're not even talking about Derek
Henry in the running game and what Lamar could do
with his legs.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Zay top one thousand receiving yards last year. What's his
number look like this year?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Good question. I think he'll go over a thousand. But
more important, than me obviously.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Is is the.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Offense even more explosive and productive than it was last year?
The numbers spreading around with that many weapons, somebody's not
going to have probably the season that they had last
year or the season that they're used to. It doesn't
matter if they're just producing points all the time, no
matter who they're playing. So I just think, Zay, you
can get the ball to him in so many ways.
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It's just hard for me to visualize if he stays
healthy that he won't top a thousand again.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It is interesting, you know, the reason that he wanted
to add a little bit more muscles so he can
break through some more tackles and get through some of
those arm tackles, not always be trying to run around guys.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
If he can be even more.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Explosive and dangerous after the cat in that way, not
that he's going to start trucking people. He's not going
to turn into a j Brown, but like, if he
can get through some of his arm tackles and break
free from people.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Who right, that's important for Swift guys.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
It's not always trucking people, as you said, you're only
getting a piece of them anyway, exactly. So when you
get that piece, if that doesn't bring them down, it's over. Yeah,
So that's what he wants to get to. I've seen
a little bit that in Keaton Mitchell as well, another
swift guy who I think his legs is stronger now
with all the rehab he had to do to get
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over a knee surgery. If you just get a piece
of him now, it may not be enough and you're
not getting a second chance.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yep, yep, totally agree.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
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Speaker 2 (21:10):
All right, Thanks for listening.
Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink
here at Clifton Brown and we are thrilled to sit
down with Zay Flowers and Zay, you can pretty muscle
up this year.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I gotta start there is the.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hill workouts take take us through the bigger Za Flowers.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I mean I did it. I did a few things different.
I worked out.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
You know, I had to go through rehab, so I
worked out with a different strength coach this year. He
did my rehab and he also did my lifts and
I told him I wanted to gain a little bit
to like protect myself a little bit more because I'm
be running straight this year, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Mean run running straight.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
I had to put on some muscle, but I got
a I gag like ten pounds, So it's been good.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know, through the season, you lose it.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
So we'll probably be back at my normal weight by
the time Game five coming on.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's a that's a good amount of weight there for
a wide receiver of your size.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Is this like the biggest that you've played at before?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, it's the heaviest I've ever been, Like, I never
got over one eighty and it's my first time I
actually breaking like one eighty five. I'll wake up in
the morning and step on the scale and one eighty five,
I'm like, I got to chill on the breath.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It sounds like me. It sounds like me. I got
to chill a little more than you. But I mean
it doesn't look like it's affected your speed out there.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
No, No, that's that's the heel see, that's where the
hills coming. So like while I was gaining, I just
go out and hit the heils like every day that
I could, and then I do some speed work on
the field. But I was trying to do a lot
of like resistance work and a lot of like he'll
work just to get my weight moving, just to get
a better feel for it.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Got you, got youa So you've alway been You've always
been a game breaker. But do you think this added
weight a couple of year speed make even harder, maybe
to bring down some of those catches, run out the
catches that you can turn into a long play.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I think I think it a help.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But I think I've been I've been making people miss
breaking tackles. I think that's like one of my best
things about myself, Like breaking tackles, making people miss. I
think it's just for more protection, more protection of myself
and being able to if I'm running straight or dropping
my shoulder, I could do that to get a first
down or whatever I need.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I know you talked when the season started, at least
in the spring about more long passes that you wanted
to be part of that. Yeah, how was that comming
as far as training camp, you and Lamar and the
total offense getting you to be more of a deep threat.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I mean we're working.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
We all working, like every receiver working on everybody want
you know, everybody wanted to ball d everybody want to
run deep route. So we literally everybody have been part
of it so far. Like de Hop been a part
of it. You'll see de Hop some days, you'll see
me some days, Bait. You'll even see Tiland or Test sometimes.
So it's like, you know, we want those explosive plays.
We got people that are make plays under ten or
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fifteen yards and make an explosive play, but we wanted
those plays down the field. You want contested catches, we
want all those like we want to be part of
one of those groups that's the best in the league.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Can you take me inside the hill workouts and how
those came about, and how did you recruit Lamar to
come join or how did it all go down.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
So, like me, I keep my saying schedule even out
of season. So I wake up at thirty and then
I'll go do my first workout. I'll do my first workout,
and by the time I usually like was done with
my first workout, Lamar w'd be like, bro, youre going
to work out again? Like you'd be like, while you
up so early? Like he was always he was always up,
but he wasn't really like he was just chilling. And
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then yeah, he was easy into it. Then I go
hit the hills around like ten thirty eleven, and then
he like it tells big again. He's like, bro, you
gotta let me know when you go next time. So
the next time I went, I let him know, and
then we was all out there just running, Like I
go out there like three or four times a week
just to hit the hills and work on my stamina.
And he was like, I need some of that. So
we just start hitting the hills and working together. Then
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we'll go throw it right after.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Right, That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So I mean, how close do you guys live to
each other in the off season, like you can just
see each other up and get together whenever.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah, pretty close, pretty close. Yeah, it's not too
far from each other. It's like, you know, it's fifteen minutes.
Then we'll just meet up at the workout, run the hills,
play some music, live.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Throw the ball, and then go eat and go right
back to what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, you two have just a special relationship, like, yeah,
I think that that's part of part of your success
on the field too, right, It's like you're just floor
to guys. Yeah, and like you can relate so well
to each other. Tell me about that relationship, how it's
grown and changed and whatnot, and how much it does
kind of fuel into your success.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
He just won't.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
He won't not just me, he won't all the receivers
just play football. He'll tell us all the time, like, Bro,
what you was doing when you was in Litlely whatever
he was doing that Boston College, do it here and
we go with jest, we're gonna do what we gotta do.
He just want to win, so like that's that's all
our mentality.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
We just want to win.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And whatever he say, do or however he feel about something.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That's that's what that's what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
It seems like the wide receiver room keeps getting stronger
and stronger since you've been here.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Every year.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
You've got two young guys with Jonte and Tedz, who
you've been here longer than them. What are some of
the things you've told them about similar to this offense,
and how do you see their progress this year?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I just I really tell them, like if you with Lamar,
like he a different quarterback, so like he not what
you used to like he extended to play three times
as long as anybody else, So you got to be
ready to run. And I tell him, just just be
who you are, Like you don't you don't got to
come in and try to be me.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You don't got to come in and try to be bait.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Whatever you're good at, bro, Like that's what we want.
We don't want nothing besides yourself.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
And with de hamp he's the older guy.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
It was all the tricks, but he hasn't played with
Lamar either, And in this offense, what do you tell
him about, you know, fitting in here and being with
you guys. The potential for you guys to really do
big things.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
If I'm being honest, hop hop already on board.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
He going already know everything, like and he happy to
see the young guys like he loved me and Bait,
like he talking to me and Bait all the time.
He talk about the young guys, the younger guys. But
he like our biggest fan. Like so it kind of
like motivated us, and he keep us with positive, good
energy and that's just good to have around with somebody
older with the experience. So it's just like you allays,
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be calm no matter where you're going or or like
whatever what position you're in, or if it's a hard game,
he's gonna keep you calm. If it's an easier game,
he's gonna keep you where your head's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
What's it like for you playing with him. I'm sure
he was a guy when you were growing up. You
watch him, you're like, man, that dude's a boss.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Ye.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I always joke and I'd be like, yo, so you
started when I was eleven years old. Now I'm playing
with you, like, he'll just start laughing. But I've been
watching I've been watching him for a long time. I
really can't emulate his game. He got bigger hands, he
taller like I played the game at like probably a
little bit quicker. But he was always somebody I watched,
like I love watching receivers, and I got to play
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with two great receivers.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oh and exactly that's the thing with Odell.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I mean, I know he was such a mentor for
you when you were first coming into the league, you know,
to learn from two of the goats. Really for you,
how has that benefited you?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
It just it just taught me to be myself, honestly,
like they just see. They taught me how to like
treat my body or like how to longevity or like
how to stay in it and take care of your body.
And Nelly was also a guy too. Nelly was also
a guy that he did what they do it for me,
Like he took care of me, like introduced me to
people that I needed to work with or take care
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of my body. Like those guys that's why they was
able to play so long because how they take care
of their body. And that's that's kind of like my
only problem. Like that's what I'm learning, Like eat better,
get on a better schedule like stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, it does seem like you're making that more priority.
You know, all the off season stuff and the weight
and the hills and all that stuff. And I'm sure
the injuries, you know, last year's injury going to the
playoffs played into that. Is it very different from now
where you're at in terms of all the off the
field professionalism kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Absolutely, it's not even close. It's like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Just once I like, I love routine, So once I
got into a routine and once I learned actually how
to do it and like how to move around and
how to be professional, it was way easier for me.
That's why this off season I was able to gain
my weight, I was able to do what I needed
to do. I was able to throw more, run more,
learn more. Like, I was able to do a lot
more stuff just by like keeping up strict to schedule
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and just getting ready for the season.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
So what kind of foods are in and what what
had to go?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I ain't gonna lie. I'm still on the bad die though.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I'm a bad die, but I'm trying to get rid
of the McDonald's. I'm trying to get rid of the Windys.
But I've been eating my whole life. I'm like Hey,
this what got me here? You feel me like, Hey,
this is getting on my way.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
For I like all that. I like, I like all
fast food, Sarah Snyders.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Don't listen to this, Sarah.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
No, sometimes I come back before practice with some McDonalds,
some fries and a full piece.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
She just started laughing. Yeah, because I.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Burn it off at practice, you know what I mean,
Like I come here to work out every morning and
then just burn it off right at practice. So she like,
you good to eat whatever. It's just you gotta watch
it sometimes. But getting mad at me sometimes you're like, yo,
that's why, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's why that.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I'm like, all right, bro, I'm gonna fix it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It's work in progress for three. Yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
We had Rashad Bateman on the pod and he was
talking about you and he's like, man, say, say is
a special player.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And he's like, if they wanted to go.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Off and have thirteen hundred and fifteen hundred yards like that,
that would happen, right, But that's just like not how
our offense works. We have so many absoluteies, right, and
Derek Henry in the backfield Lamarr of course, you know
all these guys, Like do you kind of see it
that same way?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And how challenging is it for you to be?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Like, Hey, I know I could, I could have more
production if I was the only guy.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Oh man, if I'm being honest, I'm a winner. So yeah,
if I got to get less yard is to win.
I mean, that's what I'm going with. And everybody on
our team.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Is a dog like bait. Bro bait.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Bait can go somewhere and put up numbers itself, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It's just it's me bait.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Mark Isaiah lightly is like Charlie, Charlie coming along. We
got Derek Harry in a back I feel just as
they are keating. So it's like the ball can only
go around so many times. You can only have so
many possessions. And I know everybody when they touch the ball,
they gonna make the best out of it, like whether
that's picking up ten or whether they getting the screen
and pick it up third, Like they just gonna make
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the best of they whatever they.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Touch the ball.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
So like, I don't mind, I don't mind getting the
ball a lot less and winning. If I'm being honest,
I'll ready to be a winner, then go out there
and get the ball twenty times and put up two
hundred and lose, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So I don't really have a problem with that. I'm
a winner.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I'm always picking winning over self for like self, how
do you want to say it?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Accolade?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, yeah, over accolades.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
That's funny because you do have to deal with someone
that At Boston College, I mean, you were the guy. Yeah,
you were getting your numbers, yeah, but the team wasn't
winning a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
How much would that help you grow? I guess?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
And how much do you appreciate being somewhere like here
where that's not the cakes.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I mean at Boston College, it's like I mean, it
was in the a CC, so it was a lot
of teams that recruited better than us. A lot of
people didn't want to come to Boston too. So once
it was once we was like two and something, I'm like,
all right, now it's trying to get it.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's trying to get mine a little bit. But here it's.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Like like it helped me. Like I went through the loser,
you know what I mean, Like I had losing seasons.
I had this, I had all the self production, but
I'm at home at the end of the year, like
I ain't doing nothing. I ain't going to a bowl game,
I ain't doing this. So it was like, hey, I
rather go play in the playoffs and have a lot
less than stay at home and just chill.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
You say, you know that winning matters more than accolades,
But to be named to the Pro Bowl after just
your second season, like, that's that's something I'm sure that
when you were growing up, you're.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Like to be a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I used to see it in Hawaiian and be like, yo,
that's crazy, Like I ain't even imagine getting to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah. I just used to be like like I was.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Just happy to see the Pro Bowl on TV, you
know what I mean. But to be a part of
it and get selected, it was crazy. Yeah, definitely one
of the craziest moments of my life.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Is it, you know, to be like in that echelon
of wide receivers, what does that mean to you? And
does it does it push you to be like, hey,
I want to be known. Is you know even that
next tier of guys, you know what I mean, the top,
the very very tippity top.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, definitely pushed me. I mean the work I put in,
I feel like I deserve it. I wake up every
day and grind, so it's like that's what I work for,
that's that's I.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Want to win.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And if it comes with accolades, I take it, like
if I come with the Pro Bowl, I take it.
But I just put the work in. I just that's all.
I that's all I know my whole life. Just work
and then have fun with it.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Everybody knows what this team's goal is, and it seems
to be talking with you guys that if anything, the
way some of the seasons vendor here recently has made
you guys even more confident that you're going to do it,
not the other way up around.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Do you see it that way?
Speaker 5 (12:46):
And why is it that this team seems like, hey,
we're going to do this.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I absolutely say it that way because it's like it's
nothing the other team did to make us lose. You
know what I mean is it was all self inflicted
that the other team then drop the ball. The other team,
I mean they probably punched it out. It was bad
ball hearing, but that's still on us because we ball
carry every day. We teach that every day, so I
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don't feel like there's nothing the other team did.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Is all.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
We feel like it's always us, like we can get better,
Like we can get better. So we know we just
won't play away. We won't play away, not even probably.
It's just like sometimes the ball them fall your way.
So and we know that, like it's football at the
end of the day, and we just know it's a
lot of self inflicted stuff. And once we once we
get that right, we know where we're going.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Does this team feel just absolutely stacked?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's I mean stacked and confident. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
You could be stacked and still still not a very
good team, you know what I mean, Like everybody just
don't mess as well.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, describe that. What is it that you see about
this team that like takes it to that next level?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I mean everybody messed well here. It's like everybody got
the same mentality. Everybody here to grind, everybody here to
work hard. And then we also hang out with each other,
like we've been hanging out with each other a lot
more like going to dinners or just chilling watching TV
or watching old receivers on the TV. So we've been
doing a lot more stuff together and it's like a
brotherhood here. It's like, I ain't really never been nowhere
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like it where you come to the locker room and
you could just come in and lives.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
You're like, it's hard to have a bad day.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's cool. So what old receivers are you watching on TV?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
All you we was watching Michael Irv and Santana Moss,
Steve Smith. Who else was watching? Jerry Rice, Randy Moss.
I mean me and l sat one day and probably
watched like nine hours is just the old receivers.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
He was like, this is what we need to do.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I'm telling you, bro, like y'all got to like everything,
don't got to be this or that. Like he just
he's just like that man just want to win. If
I'm being honest, Like, I don't think I've ever seen
somebody like talk about it as much like as him. Like,
even you have a normal conversation with you want to
go eat, that's going to evolve to football, talk about
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winning it. But I understand him. Though he wanted to win.
He wanted to get one of those rings. He wanted
to bring it back to Baltimore. He want to see
the city proud and he you know he, I mean
he worked for it. He been putting the work in,
so we want that for him too. That's why we
come out here every day and do what we do.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And after last year, the way last year ended for you,
I'm sure that that fire is very much burning into
yeah as well.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, I mean I feel better than before. I feel
better than last year and learned some things from being injured.
And I wish I could have played, but we know
to the next we get him first game of the year,
and I'm looking forward to it right well.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
My parting idea here is when you're watching film of
the old wide receivers, if you want to, if you
want to clown on DeAndre, you just put him on it.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, he had a dirty fact fact.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I mean how long he got here, like eleven, twelve
years ago?
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Thirteen?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Hey, that's old enough to have a different type of
he had. He ain't had four K. I don't think
he had four k backman. Oh no way, yeah, party
four eighty or something.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Oh no, you know, it's just an idea.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
The part of me just go on today. We might
put him on today.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
We'll say thanks lob.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
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You must be twenty one or older to play. So
great to hear from Zay Flowers. And I mean he
he really broke the Ravens wide receiver kind of I
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don't know what the right word is here, skid sure ja,
I don't want to say, I don't like to say
the curse word, but but yeah, I mean he he was.
He's the first Pro Bowl Ravens wide receiver that they drafted.
And so and now Ruth Rashad Bateman, I mean, now
there's some d hop and all these guys. The Ravens
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have their best wide receiver room I think in franchise history.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
I think this is the best ever. Yes, I would
say that. And Zay just brings so much positive energy.
Even when he comes in here for something like this,
he seems like he's always upbeat.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
He looks more.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Than ready to have a great year. I mean, his
body looks great. All the work he put in this offseason.
He became a pro bowler quickly. I mean two years yep.
He came into the NFL to position where a lot
of guys don't do that right away and became a
main cog in the offense. So confident player, really popular player,
and I think as good as he was last year,
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he could be even better this year.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
As shifty and as fast as ever. I mean, the
first passive training camp went over the middle of Zave
Flowers scene exploded up the field, rin past the secondary
for like a seventy yard touchdown. So yeah, I mean,
he can go off at any at any point. It's
just that he has so many players around him, and
that's what makes the Ravens so dangerous. I mean, got Lee, Yeah,
we were talking. We were watching one on one today,
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I was sitting next to somebody, I said, who if
you're a cornerback, who are you hoping to draw to? Say? Yeah,
I'll take that guy one on one. No, I want
no parts is say, Flowers says shifty? Is he is
one on one? Are you kidding me? It's a cheat
code out there. Bateman's so slick with his route running
the hop will body you up.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
It's just tough, right.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You put the three of them out there, the number
three corner for the other teams.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
In serious trump he's sweating.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
It's a mismatch, and that's what a quarterback like Lamar
Jackson can really exploit.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
That's what you want.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
I mean, there's always going to be a mismatch with
the weapons of Ravens have now somewhere on the field.
You just have to find it. Give them war enough
time to find it, and they're going to be hard
to stop. And then we're not even talking about Derek
Henry in the running game and what Lamar could do
with his legs.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Zay top one thousand receiving yards last year. What's his
number look like this year?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Good question. I think he'll go over a thousand. But
more important, than me obviously.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Is is the.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Offense even more explosive and productive than it was last year?
The numbers spreading around with that many weapons, somebody's not
going to have probably the season that they had last
year or the season that they're used to. It doesn't
matter if they're just producing points all the time, no
matter who they're playing. So I just think, Zay, you
can get the ball to him in so many ways.
(19:39):
It's just hard for me to visualize if he stays
healthy that he won't top a thousand again.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It is interesting, you know, the reason that he wanted
to add a little bit more muscles so he can
break through some more tackles and get through some of
those arm tackles, not always be trying to run around guys.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
If he can be even more.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Explosive and dangerous after the cat in that way, not
that he's going to start trucking people. He's not going
to turn into a j Brown, but like, if he
can get through some of his arm tackles and break
free from people.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Who right, that's important for Swift guys.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
It's not always trucking people, as you said, you're only
getting a piece of them anyway, exactly. So when you
get that piece, if that doesn't bring them down, it's over. Yeah,
So that's what he wants to get to. I've seen
a little bit that in Keaton Mitchell as well, another
swift guy who I think his legs is stronger now
with all the rehab he had to do to get
(20:32):
over a knee surgery. If you just get a piece
of him now, it may not be enough and you're
not getting a second chance.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yep, yep, totally agree.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
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our listeners out there.
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Speaker 6 (21:03):
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