S1 E7 - Previewing 49ers vs. Rams in 'Thursday Night Football' | The Saloon

Jesús Zárate and Carlos Yustis join The Saloon to recap San Francisco’s Week 4 contest and look ahead to the Los Angeles Rams in Week 5, with interviews featuring TE Luke Farrell and Prime's "Thursday Night Football" analyst Richard Sherman.

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
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(00:42):
your podcasts. Hey faithful, Welcome back to the Saloon presented
by Cisco. The forty nine Ers are three and one
after a hard fought loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars in
Week four. I'm your forty nine Ers team reporter Brianna
Janelle here to break down all the action from Sunday's
game and look forward to Thursday Night Football in Los

(01:03):
Angeles against the Rams.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
In this episode, you'll get.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
To hear from Titan Luke Ferrell, our forty nine Ers insiders,
and Richard Sherman from Primes Thursday Night Football. Don't forget
to subscribe to this Salon on YouTube, Sirius XM, and
your favorite podcast platform. Now here's all the action from
Sunday's game. Joining me now are Jezusaratte and Carlos You
stease to recap everything that happened in.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Week four against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Guys, thanks so much
for joining me today. How are you feeling after that
Week four game?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
It was a tough loss, but sort of a close
game towards the end.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yes, definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I doesn't say I feel like if I was faithful,
I'm the team. I feel frustrated. They're frustrated, and not
because of the loss. The problem is not losing, because
sometimes when you feel that you want to forget about
it and just move on this one, you're frustrated because
even though you made so many mistakes, and we talked
about it before, this is a game that, with the
amount of mistakes you made, you should have lost by
two or three possessions, and you still find your seven

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app position within the last drive, you could have won
the game. So that, to me, that makes it more
frustrated because it shows you how deep your team is,
how good you are, and it's only those miscues that
pull your head. But the fact that you can come
back even though you didn't fully, but that you put
your seven up position to win after all those things,
it's actually a pretty good thing for the team.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yes, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
So it's definitely frustrating with everything that Carlos mentioned on
the four turnovers, all the mistakes on the offense, on
the defense, on special teams, so it was like mistakes
all over all over the place. But still even though
with a game like that where you usually you're not
gonna see the forty nine ers play play that way.
In fact, Christian McCaffrey says said that after the game,

(02:38):
he said, uh, he's a characteristic of having like all
the receivers dropping footballs, including myself, and that's what That's
what he mentioned. So so yeah, you're definitely that's kind
of in a way like the good things looking to
the future that you're not that you're not gonna see
like that the forty nine ers this way, and especially
considering all the injuries the team is dealing with. I

(02:59):
think it's a great it's awesome that the team was
able to start the season three and no because now
now you have, like that a little bit more like
margin of error kind of weather.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
The storm until you get guys like Kettled back.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Obviously you're now on a short week, but in a
way that helps that you started three and no. But definitely.
I agree with Carlos. It hurts that when you face
AM like the Jaguars. Obviously they're pretty good for turnovers,
and we mentioned on the league. Yeah, definitely, so so
they're gonna take advantage. And I think there were like

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two key plays here in the game. Remember that that
fumble that by Luke Ferrell, he fumbles the ball, Jacksonville
recovers it, and then the next play is touchdown from
ETN forty a forty eight yards TV on.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
The on the ground.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
And then the following in the second half, in the
third quarter, you have that drop by by Kendrick Bourne.
Maybe if he catches that football, maybe he scores or
at least he gets into the into the red soon,
but he's not able to hold on to the football.
And then you you have to punt, and on that punt, uh,
the Jacksonville scores that eighty seven yard punt punt return.

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So so yeah, those two places I look at them
and it's like, I think that that's where the game
if you had to pick, like what moments you lost
the game, I think those two stand out to to me.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, it's interesting. It's such mixed emotions when you're reflecting
on the game because Jacksonville they forced the Niners to
make mistakes and then they capitalized online. But just like Carlos,
you were saying, somehow the forty nine ers were still
in it, which gives you some optimism. So it's a
mixture of optimism frustration. But at the end of the day,
the Niners are flushing it. They're clearing their heads and

(04:41):
their minds are on Thursday night football against their divisional opponent,
the Los Angeles Rams. There's a lot to unpack, but
first let's look into Sunday a little bit more. Christian McCaffrey,
he talked after the game, obviously upset about the fumbles
and the drop balls, but he still continues to be
the engine of this offense. Another one hundred plus yard
game for him. What stood out to you about his

(05:03):
role in Week.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Four, Well, specifically that right he hasn't been able to
establish the run for a maria of reasons.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
And we'll talk about him.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
A little later, but you find ways to make him
help you, right, because if he was a one dimensional
player and you had used to run him between the
tackles and I mean right now, would probably be injured.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
Right, So you find ways to make him count.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
And his course, his first game for such another season,
so it's important to get him involved, and you're finding
ways to get him to the ball because when you
have a player with that caliber, with the ability, you
have to find him in places where he can help you.
And those passes to the flat sometimes when they find
him through the middle.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
He makes him count.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
And he had one explosive run after a pass that
that made a difference.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
So all those things make McCaffrey who he is.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
And the one thing is that the one thing that
makes me very happy and very happy for him is
that I know how frustrated he was last year for
not being available, and this year, even though we have
these big lists of players that are not available, he's
he's he's healthy, he's looking good, he's helping where he can,
and even if he had a couple of mistakes, he
owns up to them. He knows exactly what he needs

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to do. And to me, that's better because you're gonna
find this next game on a sure week, and players
like him, you know that he's not gonna make those
mistakes again, and I'd rather have him, in a way
make them in a game like this sorely in the
season and then kind of turning it back for again
that is this important because it's the divisional game.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
But you know what mistakes, but if they happen against
an AFC opponent, it's not a divisional game. We'll take
our Greeks where we could get it.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Definitely, definitely, because remember we were also in a very
close game with the Cardinals, and the Cardinals obviously it's
a divisional opponent, so you were able to get that win.
But going back to McCaffrey, Yeah, I totally agree with you,
Carlos McCaffrey. We know what McCaffrey brings to the table
every time he's on the on the field, and he's
proven that he's one hundred percent because obviously it's a

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human nature not to be concerned after what happened last
year that he missed games and.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
He even mentioned it.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
I remember that that week, Remember it was, yeah, it
was the first week of decision, like going into that
Seattle game that Thursday, when when on the injury report.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
He was still a little questionable.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah, with the cafe and everybody started like like freaking out,
and I remember he talked to the media that Friday,
and he says, I understand, I understand with my with
my injury history, but he basically say, I guarantee that
there's nothing to worry about. And so far we've already
been four games with him and he's proven that that's
one So.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
That's a good thing.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
And obviously, now with all the injuries to the wide
receiver group, obviously you're going to see McCaffrey. In a
normal situation when you have all your older guys, Kittle,
Jennings healthy, everybody in there, he usually always impacts the
games on on on the ground and on the air,
but especially in this situation with with guys the wide

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receivers injured, not everybody on the field. He's been leading
the team with with receptions that the last couple of games.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, he becomes a huge target.

Speaker 7 (08:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
While that we're looking at the offense, I want to
talk about Ricky Pearson. He had an amazing game he did.
He is dealing with a bit of an injury going
into this Week five game, but he had that amazing
one handed catch, he was involved in that trick lateral play.
Just how important is his development to this offense, especially
stepping up as that wide receiver one.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
I think it's one of those plays, one of those
moves in the draft where there was a lot of
questions last year when he got picked first on the
first round, like it didn't seem like it was a
necessity for the team at the point at that specific time.
Then unfortunately, the thing off the field that happened to
him that sidelined him for basically the whole season.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
This is technically his rookie year, to.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Put it in a sense, right, is the first year
that he's able to have a full of season that
he's able to come in and God, what a great
player he is, not only because of how I mean
you know it better than than as that you see
them more often.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
But he's a great person.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
He works hard and done just the raw talent that
he shows like every single game. That's why it's so
frustrating to see him no finished games, especially with something
like this that it's a it's a knee or that
it's not necessarily like a full injury, but it's just
like lagging in there and then doesn't allow you to
do perform and it doesn't put you like at a
place that you.

Speaker 8 (09:15):
Want to be.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
But the fact that Niners just have him, and the
first he shows you how good the scouting team to
pick players.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
They don't hit.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Obviously they don't hit every single one of them, but
they hit more than they missed.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
No one does.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
But they they hit, they hit the jack.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
But with this one that least from what he's shown,
I mean you saw it again, like that picking up
that one Handy catches, Like how he returns to the
ball where he sees it, well, he knows where it
is that he makes the play for it. We had
the four and two last last week. There was a
point that he had to show and he showed up
for it. So I think for the team to have him,
it's it's it's amazing and then just shows you how

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how good of work they do in the draft.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
And I like the fact that he's like translating everything
we saw in during during training camp, because remember when
we were we had these episodes like they didn't training
can we always say, oh, I like how Ricky Piersol
is doing, Like he's catching everything in practice and now
he's translating that into into the regular system. So so
that I like that consistency from from Ricky piersoll And,

(10:16):
and in that way, it's also frustrating because with all
the injuries because I've been I've been thinking like since
the systems started, oh man, when we get like Brandon
that you're back, and then now you have Reyki Pearsal
developing nicely. You have all these guys Jawan Jennis, also
the Marcus Robinson.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
I mean, the wide receiver group looks pretty good, but.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
The problem is that the injuries right now that they
haven't been In fact, Kayoshan has said, I think we
haven't had a practice where we have like everybody out there.
But thinking in a big picture, like for the future,
you like what you see on the forty nine ers
wide receiver group.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Again, it makes you more optimistic.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
It's speak five and we still haven't seen the full
team all together. We still haven't seen all the pieces
be put together. So it gives you something to look
for later down the season. Letting those players get the
rest they need. This short week could be a good thing.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
That they have a.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Quick practice, they play the game, and then they have
a weekend of rest and now they're more rested going
into week six. So you have to think big picture
when it comes to a lot of these injuries and
optimism for the team. Now let's shift over to the
defensive side. I want to talk about Fred Warner, the
leader of the defense. He actually did hit a huge
milestone on Sunday, and I need to give him his props.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Just how much of an.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Impact does he have on this defense, not only being
a speaker and leading the defense with how he talks
and the way he brings the team together, but just
his his force on the field.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I mean, I think it's it's a consensus that the
faithful likes Fred for Emiria reasons too. Like, I mean,
there's many reasons to like Fred Warner, but I feel
like it's one of those things. Like I think at
this point there's always that comparison with Patrick Willis, right,
because Padrick Willis is who he is, Yes, but I
don't think they realize, like because you have that like
kind of like in the back of your head, you

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don't realize like Fred.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
Has broken a record with a lot of records by.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Patrick Willis, and he's still really young, Like Fred still
has a lot of career in front of him. So
I think that when everything's said and done, you're going
to realize that we're probably looking at the best linebacker
that has ever existed period.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Obviously, you know, he needs to continue to perform the.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
He has to have the luck of stay healthy and
all these things that usually don't accompliment because.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
That's what didn't help Pass exactly to retire earlier. Right, Yeah,
health issues.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
But it's also the way he played the game rights one.
Sometimes one thing goes with the other. But that's exactly
what I'm saying, Like, I feel like at this point,
like you see him perform.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
The in and out, like you have games like this
one where.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
You probably want him to get you know, got another
form of recovery, or maybe you're actually criticizing because he
didn't intercept the two balls that were close to him.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
But the reality is that every.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Single thing that Fred does in and out, every single
day and again, when everything is said and down, you're
gonna be like, dude, we have probably one of the
best players of this game in the NFL that has
ever existed.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
And that's to me, it's.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
That very exciting, especially now that we're still in like
the month of Hispanic Hispanic heritage, because he represents.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Yeah, it's awesome to see him like with that Mexican
flag on the back of the and also the flackground
Panamania and yeah also sometimes so it's amazing.

Speaker 8 (13:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (13:21):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Fred Warner is an amazing player.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
I mean in terms of leadership what he brings to
the table on the field. I mean, he's a great leader.
He's very smart. What impressed me the most about Fred
Warner was during his rookie year. I remember in twenty eighteen.
Immediately the team had the confidence in him to put
the green dot behind his helmet, which means he needs
like to make the cause he's like the quarterback of

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the defense. And to give that responsibility to a rookie,
I mean that speaks for itself. Yeah, and I remember
that his very first game, he forced a fumble against
the Vikings. So you immediately sawid even from his rookie year,
that you had a very special player in Fred Warner.

Speaker 10 (14:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Shows just how disciplined he is, not only to be
able to make those calls, but to make those reads
on the field. His eyes are very disciplined. He doesn't
get tricked up by the offense too often. So it's
really fun to see him work. Like you said, one
of probably the best linebackers of all time.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
I'm excited to see how this season keeps going.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Obviously, we completely pray that Lucky is on his side,
that he's completely healthy, because I just love watching Fred
Warner on the defense. Now, we talked about it a
little bit at the beginning of the podcast. Mistakes were
a factor in this game. Those two interceptions really swung
the momentum for Brock party. But how do you think
he bounced back from those? Like we said in that
fourth quarter where you're starting to see some steam pick
up by the offense, how do you answer the call

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after some mistakes are made.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
I'm actually never worried about Brock even when he throws
that pick, because again, he takes responsibility. And sometimes he
has the difference with Breck Purty and his interceptions. And
I always said this is that Brock makes an interception
because he forces the ball because he thinks he can
do it, He's used to doing it.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
He doesn't throw a pick because he us doesn't see
a player.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
He just thinks that he is like, I don't care
that you were there, I'm still gonna throw it over you.
So it's like, yeah, sometimes Brock like kind of like
swings out like swings it a little too much. But
we saw it like the second interception because the first
one it's kind of like I always hate to put
those ones on the quarterback because at the end of
the day, it's kind of like mixed. Like and we
mentioned it, I actually think that that pass was not
for Christian McCaffrey. When we see the play developments, obviously

(15:27):
we have a very good by because we're we're on
top of the stadium.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
That play gets broken, Brock stends.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
It a little bit, and you have Joan Jennings making
a crossing route all the way on the back, And
to me, it gave me the feeling that Brocks saw
him because he was getting separation and he tried to
go for him. But then Christian rerouted himself and he
turns around and sees the ball and he thought he
was coming this his way, and he actually reached for
it and going up for it, and I was like,
I think that pass wasn't for you. Then you kind

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of just made it for the defense. But those things happen,
right like again, like, doesn't mistake that happens. It's a
game where sometimes lucky is not on your side. Then
the second pick he does, he does see the linebacker,
but he first linemaker makes a great play on it
because he pinches back and he knows that Brock makes
that throw.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Over the medal usually.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
But then Brock did three more plays exact like that
over the same like backers. He was like, well, I
missed that one, but then I'm gonna get you, and
then he gets him.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
So to me that I know, whatever Brock. What worries
me about Brock and.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Especially this game when you talk about mistakes there, I
feel that there was no many mistakes in the sense
that he was mistakes that he was doing, and that's
how the game went. I think the limitation on his
foot made a big impact because sometimes when the defensive
line faces fronts like this one that put a lot
of pressure in you, that come on you. Brock is
very good at extending the play, getting out of the pocket,
finding another way, or just runs it, and I feel

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because he has a sortage.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
On the foot, he could not do it.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
So even when he felt it was like crunching on
him whatever, he rather took the sack or or just
threw it away or kind of force a pass because
he knew he couldn't take those yards in front of
him because usually you just take off running. So I
never I'm not worry about him because against it's not
about a bouncing back. I just saying that Brock at
one hundred percent is a whole different player.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, definitely, I think Brock Purty is gonna be fine.
No quarterback in the NFL, even the best of the best,
is are perfect. They're gonna have their their games where.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
The Islamar Jackson.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Yeah, yeah, even even Joshua Allend on those playoff games
my home. So all the guys make make mistakes, even
even the best quarterbacks like they the top three, whatever
you want to call them. But bery I think it's
going to be fine. He just needs to get healthy,
have a normal week of practice, because I think that's
that's key to this whole situation. Because remember in the

(17:33):
in the game before before before the Cardinals, the week
before the Cardinals game, he didn't practice, he didn't have
at all full practice. Wednesday was limited, Thursday limited, Friday limited.
And then this this past week before the game against
the uh the Jaguars kind of the similar situation. Limited
on Wednesday, limited on Thursday, then Friday he was full,

(17:55):
full participant, full participant in practice. But you know, you
guys know that that that Friday is usually just a walkthrough.
So I think that has to do that impacts how
you do in the in the game because you're not
uh having those reps with your wide receivers or also
speaking of the wid receiver, like I said earlier, you
don't have everybody on the field, so or they're limited

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to Yeah, so all that has to we we have
to take that into into account.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, and when it comes to his performance on Sunday,
it's sort of the natural up and down of a
quarterback play, like you guys had mentioned in Carlos, to
your point, the situation is also very complex. Cash and
handset on us call on Monday that yeah, it might
be a little bit of the injury, but it also
might be just be the natural flow of the game.
What his like preparation was like, he's just like you said,
during practice, not being able to.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Get a full week.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
So the situation was very complex and there are just
a lot of factors that played into the unfortunate loss. Now,
injuries continue to be a storyline. We mentioned Brock a
little bit. It was pretty's tow Pearcell's knee, Juan's ribs
with a short turnaround before Thursday. How concerned should fans
be about this team's health?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Well, I mean, for in general, I don't A lot
of these are like just like nagging things that are
probably you know, be able to be sorted out on
the long term, hopefully, because none of them really are
like ligamin damage or joint damage or bone damage, like
they're just.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know, sorting is basically right.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Like again just to people who probably don't play football
or never play football in their life, these guys, is
like literally having a truck hit you, like you're imagine
being just going full speed running at something and then
you have a truck that comes and cleans you over
like you're not getting old, You're not getting up from
that head like nothing ever happened, like you're still gonna

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feel it.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
And a lot of those things are.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Just you know, being hit on the wrong place at
the wrong time, and it doesn't fully injury. There's not
a full injury, but it makes you feel it and
then it limits you because you're not comfortable right. You
have that like soreness or something that doesn't allow you
to take off because you use feel it. So in
a short week, having those is concerning because the chances
of you feeling better by Thursday to do it again

(20:02):
are very slim, right, especially.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Depending on how sorry you are.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
But if it's soreness, like you did not practice and
you feel it, the chance of you making it to
Thursday are very slim, So that that's a problem.

Speaker 11 (20:14):
Now.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
The problem also is that it's a divisional game, it's
an important game, it's a way, so those things kind
of pile up on it to be concerned. Then it
all depends on how the team looks because the other
thing that could happen, because this is the NFL and
anything can happen.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
After you come a game.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Like that, right, like with the pressures, with how.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
The defense kind of dominated you, how they were established
a run game. You're going to face the game against
a divisional opponent, but since you're just jaded from what
just happened to you, you might come lights out. So
that's a chance that can happen, or you just don't
recover and then you accumulate that second loss. So you
don't know what exactly you're going to get, But there's
always a chance that a lot of the things that

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you did not do right, especially in the in the
game that you were able to power through and still
make it to the last drive with a chance.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
There's things that are going to look better, there's things that.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
You're going to improve, and you're not gonna let that
happen again.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
So it's just a matter of how available players are
and how they are at the game, and especially for example,
like one of the biggest questions, like is Broken start
Maxican to start, because Mac at one hundred percent, it's
definitely better than Brock at not one hundred percent. Obviously,
the idea scenario is having Broke at one hundred percent.
But if you can have Mac again and here's one

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hundred percent, then you're already at a plus and and
that's one of the things that that's kind of exciting,
especially with the difference play in the way it is
they can limit the offense from the rams, which probably
the hard like the most like strong point, I think
there's not that much concern until the games play. I Mean,
it's one of those things like I'm not concerned. I
just need to play the game. I need to play
the game and see see how it goes. Like I'm
not gonna worry about what's out of my control. I

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know I can come. I know it's a divisional play,
divisional team, a divisional opponent. I'm gonna come lights out.
I'm gonna go at them, because that's that wins actually
a little more important than other wins. So I would
just I would just say, I just need to wait
for the game.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, it seems like Tuesday's practice is going to be
very telling for what the status is of this team
and its health. So what are you looking for in
today's practice the time of recording.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Yeah, basically, I'm gonna look out for the players that
appear on that report. We could remember they have that
report also on Monday. They don't practice on Monday. But
it's an estimation of what practice would have looked like
if they had a practical, an actual practice. And obviously,
like Carlos was saying, you have Rod Perty obviously on
the report with the with the toe, the soaring and

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he's told what he said to Kyle Shanahan over the phone.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
He said he spoke to him Sunday night.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
He told him, Oh, I still to feel my toe,
still starting to feel a little bit sore and the
same thing happened Monday morning. So the good thing that
I saw on that Monday report is that if they
had a practice, Mac Jones would have been a full participant.
So that's a really good thing, and that's key in
this game because obviously we saw how he performed on

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those two games where where he had to come in
as a starting quarterback and and that that's that was
the issue before the game against the Jaguars, that both
quarterbacks were questionable because a lot of people say maybe
they could have put make johnsonid but but remember on Friday,
Mac Johnes was questionable and brock Perty was feeling a
little a little better.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
So that was the issue before the Jaguars game.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Now, if you have Mac Johnson at least at one
hundred percent, uh, you have like faith in him, the
confidence in mc johns uh to have him be started
against against the Rams, and obviously you have like that
kind of because on the flip side, the good thing
about this uh uh, this these short weeks, then you
have the week enough so Bradbury is gonna get yesterday

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is to to get one percent maybe for the game
against the Bucanier.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
So that that's the good thing.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
But so that's what I'm gonna be looking for U
on Tuesday's practice, and also what happens with Jawan Jennings,
what happens with Ricky Yrichrisol. In fact, also Michael Williams.
They put him like limited if they had a practice
on Monday, but they added an oblique issue that now
now it says Michael Williams limited risk and oblique. So

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I'm gonna be looking out for also for Michael Williams
because definitely not now, but the will Las nick Bosa
for for the year unfortunately. Uh, the the defferensive line
is like all the help it can get.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, a lot to look for in this one day
of practice. All the coverage will be on forty nine
ers dot com in both English and Spanish, so we've
got you covered today now. Another thing Kyle acknowledged in
his Monday call after the game is that the Niners
are averaging just about three point three yards per carry.
That's not that's uncharacteristic for this team, especially the run game.
He mentioned that they haven't had that big explosion of

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a play. They haven't had anyone really take off.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
So what do you think needs to.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Click for them to get explosive in the run game.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Again, well, I mean the key to an explosive running
game it's the offensive line. You could have not a
super talented running back, but if he has a whole.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
He's gonna he's gonna explode it. Right, We're seen it
in the past.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
And obviously, like because I used to talk about this, this
is a lot one of the reasons and you hate
to do comparisons, but to me, it's kind of like
the stole worth of why things work. When you see
how the Philadelphia Egles from last year, those guys on
the offensive line literally wear a wall, whether it was
for jailing her to take whatever time he wants to
find his progressions. And he has a great group of
core receivers and Socknbergley was able to rack up two

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thousand yards from line of scrimmage running because he literally
had an avenue every single time that he was playing,
like he had no problem just walking through like he
will walk through that.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Through that scrimmish line.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
So I think this it's a very it's a very
young offensive line because the truth is that dominic puny
and now that Colin Colby is it's starting a left
card that needs to click. But you need to be
able to help Christian, And I mean KSh has been
very good in the past establishing the game the run
and being able to have those those plays where he

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asked a lot. We also know that usually for his
offensive linemen, he tried to find them that are very
very athletic, specifically because he likes them to go out
and make a run and make a block and be
able and be able to help the running the running back.
So in this case, I feel that they just need
to tighten it up. I feel like one of the
one of the things that is like a room of improvement,
not because they don't wrong is obviously, if they had

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played horribly, you don't win three games. But in that
specific scenario, I feel they need to tighten it up.
There there has to be a little more help from
the offensive line, so you can find that spot for Christian,
for Brian Robinson, because you have two really talented backs
and you need to you need to make that little gap.
Like and the adventure of this offensive line has like
they don't have to make an avenue right Like, we
don't ask it. We're not asking for those two thousand

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yards from Zacon Park last year. You don't have to
have an avenue, but if you have like that little gap,
you can just open the water a little bit for them,
it will be really good. And I feel that that's
the only thing that's it has been missing because only
I think it's a mixture between that and obviously like
most defenses are actually you know, expecting Christian McAffrey, so
they also come and clog those lines a little more,

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which then opens the game for you. But there has
to be a point where it's like, well, if we're
clogging this line and they're always finding this second level
throw like behind the linebackers, at some point we also
need to address it.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Then that's where you can find Christian.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
So I think it's just a matter of time of
like working on it and then again like the offensive
line kind of like putting their pants on and being
like we need to help this. And once they a
couple of explosive plays, I think the more will become.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
And you need to get also kittled back. I think
Kittle is important part of the now. Yeah, if we
say like Fred Werner is a hard and soul on
the difference, I think Kittle is a hard and soul
on the offensive side of the ball, because sometimes you
see even taken on on on on defensive linemen because
the way Kittle blocks, there's there's no other tight end
in the in the league that that that blocks like Kittle.

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So I think having kittled back obviously if he's still
on ir but we'll see if the forty nine Ers
can have him back for maybe I don't know, maybe
the game against the Buccaneers. But but having kitdled back
I think will help a lot the running game.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, if we were to look at the other side
of the line of scrimmage, defensively, Jacksonville's quick passing really
limited the forty nine ers pass rush. What did you
see from that front seven? And how can they adjust
moving forward?

Speaker 4 (28:12):
I feel like Robert Salen needs to find a way
to be a little more creative on how he faces
those fronts because the reality is that a lot of
people might look at Nick bow and realized and we again,
like I talked to Thiscaus, it was a lot of
a lot. Nick Bosa, when you go look at his stats,
probably doesn't have the numbers of sacks like a T. J.
Watt or a Miles Garrett, but the amount of pressure

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he puts on a quarterback helps the rest of the defense.
That's what makes the other quarterbacks made mistakes. That's how
we get interceptions. Sometimes they don't even interceptions, but he
just rushes it out and they make the wrong throw
or they they're not accurate with it.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
They work as a unit.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
So not having Nick is a huge blow, and we
notice it on this game. And I felt like this
first game was kind of going to be like that
because it's the first game you're without Nick, and you
kind of like, don't see it until you see it.
So now that you saw it, now that you know this, well,
I'm putting pressure like this because this is how I
put pressure when he was in the field. I realized
I can't do that. Now it's going to be a
little more creative. We also didn't see a lot of

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blitz us from the safeties. We didn't see a lot
of blitz us from the corners, which is something that
Sala usually does. In this particular game between you couldn't
do it and there was no positions to do it.
I feel we'll see a lot more of That will
also open the spot for one of the younger players
made Brice hot, that is playing lights out to actually
be able to and.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
To help with that.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
So there has to be a more of this scheme,
like now you have to find a way to kind
of like mask a little bit of the fire that
you're missing somebody like Nick but same like, I feel
that even with that, I feel the defense had a
lot of three and ounce whenever they were able to
put pressure, whether it was just like with pushing the
offensive lineman into Trevor Lawrence's face, all those things helped

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out and in need gave the Niners, even with the mistakes,
a position for them to be almost winning the game
because the only laps, the only real laps the defense
had was right after that fumble that run.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I feel that was the one where it was like
where were you guys.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
The rest of the rest of the game, I feel
that they actually hold pretty well and then they keep
giving the offense chances, like there was even that play
that they stopped them and that doesn't brought throws the
second interception, like literally the difference had just got the
ball back.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
In a really good position, then that's that's when that happened.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
So I feel in that sense, I'm not so worry
about the defense, and I feel like one to me
is one of the keys for the games against the Rams.
Defense can play how they've been playing, these Rams are
going to struggle with it, and especially because I feel
like as much as you don't put as much pressure
Matthew Stafford, the fact that it's hard for the Rams
to establish a run game with how good the secondary
has been, how good they are covering, and even the

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help from the linebackers. Because the Winters having a fantastic season.
I mean, I could not role out like you have
the Winters. On a one on one we put in
the and he actually shuts him down. So that's the
one thing that I look forward for Thursday.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah. Because the defense.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Obviously, you cannot replace a guy like Nick Bosa, we
know that. But the good thing is that we have
Robert Sala as a defensive coordinator and he already had
experience back in back in twenty twenty when he lost
Nick Bosa, also very very early in the season. It
was a Week two against the Jets that year, he
lost Nick Bosa for the year, and he was able

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to still keep the forty Niners defense the top ten.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
In the league.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
I remember a guy like Hyder that year had like
eight point five sacks or something like that. So I
think has has the season goes, it's not gonna take
that long. I don't know if he's gonna be against
the Rams because obviously we're in a short week and
the Rams are a very good offense, so it's gonna
be a big challenge. But I think it's not gonna
take too long before Robert Sala figured something out with

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the defense, get get more creative, maybe with the with
the blitzes. Remember in the pre season we saw a
lot of Chase Lucas he sent them on those Sharka blitzers.
So I think in Robert Sala, you have a great
defensive mind. So I think he's gonna figure it out.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
We talked a lot about how those death players really
stepped up. I think that's been the name of the
game for the Niners through these first four weeks of
the season. But some guys really impressed, like Darell Lutor Junior,
for Ernardo Green sam O, for Nick Bosa to start,
who really impressed you among some of those depth pieces
in this game.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
If I had to pick one, I don't know, it's
hard because I feel like it's been like you said,
it's a collective effort.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
On how I would say the real Luter.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Because I don't think I don't think his presence was
felt like when you when you lose one of your
starting corners, especially you know you have your two shot
down corners, then you have then you have the nickel
when when you lose your one of the starting corners
and the next one steps up, if he doesn't step
up to the plate.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
That could be pretty clear.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
It's very obvious because you know you can finish like
some long plays, they can get some like big big
chunks of yards. And I feel the real Luder like
didn't give up that like at all, Like it was
not it was not a concept like it was nothing
that the defense really felt like he lost a step
on it.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
So yeah, I think that in that sense.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Coming from a starter, like a true starter, that would
be the most important one because I think again, like
the one on the defense, on the on the defensive line,
I think the guys kind of did what they could,
but they need a little more chemistry. They need to
kind of figure out how things are like kind of
going out that Nick isn't.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
There and not not necessarily their fault.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Again, like I.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Feel like Selah has a very sad way of doing things,
and he can get created. He actually progresses. He's one
of the best defensive coordinators in the league. But he
kind of like imitated a little bit what he already
had and that was not necessarily working.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
But yeah, I would say that the Real did a
pretty good job.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Like he shut down most of most of the players,
Like that was the passing. It was not a non
factor for for Jacksonville. I would say like they did
just to me, the biggest play that they got was
not even a catch. The referee said it was a catch,
but I don't think it was a catch. So that
was the biggest That was literally the biggest one on
the whole game. And the rest they were they were
pretty pretty sad.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
And even like the Upton Stout, I n t they
threw the flag and that one and then that was
a big play. I mean, I've been really impressed with
the rookies in general, like Upton Stout, Segle and then
other guys like you mentioned the Real lad like and
on the dead I'll go also with the with the offense.
I know these past games have been tough for Colby,

(34:27):
for Connor Colby, but I remember in that game it
was against the Saints when he fill in for Ben Barge.
He did a really good good job. And let's remember
he's still a rookie and he's in a tough situation
because the last two games also he's been questionably questionable
with that growing injury, so he hasn't been one hundred percent.
But I believe a lot in in Counor Colby. I

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watched him during training camp and I like what I
have seen from from him. These past games have been
rough in general for the whole offensive line, but I
believe a lot in what he has in the potential
that I see from from counter Colby.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, we're liking what we're seeing now.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Thursday Night Football in Los Angeles against the Rams for
Week five.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
It's a big one.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
You guys are second divisional game for the Rams. It's
going to be their first divisional game this season. What
are some of the biggest keys in this game?

Speaker 4 (35:18):
The most important one is not having Matthew Stafford wait
there and forever like six seven seconds and figure out
who's gonna throw, because then he's going to destroy you.
So there has to be a way to put pressure quick.
There has to be a way too to make him
feel uncomfortable. Because as good as Matthew Staffer is, and
he's always been, again, I think it's another.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Player that at some point might be in the question
for being a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
He makes he tends to make mistakes when when when
the things collapse because because he starts getting frustrated, right,
so you need to make you need to make him frustrated.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
Luckily for them, they don't.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
They haven't been able to establish a huge running game,
even though Karen Williams is very good running the ball.
So you need to have a lot of pressure from
the defensive line or at least be able to make
yourself felt. So if you can do that, then you
can limit them. And I feel that's the biggest takeaway
from the game because that's when they can really get you.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
They can get you again.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Sean McBay knows Kyle Shanahan in and I like this
is two guys that like literally grew up together basically,
so you need to be able to make them feel uncomfortable,
not complete an offense, and.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
We saw it last year.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Last year we literally got to the same game in
a very similar situation back then.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
The difference was that they were the worst situation in
the in the injury report.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
And funny enough that Marcus Robinson is the one that's
destroying us because same thing as you we just mentioned
right like, they had the same mentality of the next
man up, and they were able to execute and we couldn't.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
It was that that was a very ugly game.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
But you have to put you have to be able
to limit their their their chances, no offense, none of them.
Not let them have those long drives so then they
can deplete your defense.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
But I have trust in the defense. I think the
defense that we do a.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Very good job along That is probably their biggest tests
so far, because they're gonna find.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
A more like in tune and like oil machine in an.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Offense and then on on on offense capitalized because again
like this, this is a good RAMS defense.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
But ever since Aaron Donald left, it's a little different.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
There's there's some there's some there's some space, there's some
opportunities that you can take care of. Fortunately, unfortunately right
now we don't have all the pieces healthy or at
least it doesn't sound like it, because that's that's a
big impact. So hopefully they'll be back or at least
we'll find a way to how to do it. And
I think on the offense, on the defensive part, if

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you can limit those drop passes, it's a big difference.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Like I think that was one of those things, like
it was that game.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
You had that one game, and like I mentioned two,
meet's better to have that game either in the NFL
is two ways to have that game. You either have
it really early in the season and you're like, all right,
I got out of my system. We didn't like this,
we played horrible and or we did these things very wrong,
and now we move forward and we construct or when
you have everything said and done, it's like, well like

(38:02):
kind of like what happened to us with that game
against the Ravens in twenty three. I mean it was
the Ravens. It was a very competitive team. It was
almost at the end of the season you were qualified
to the playoffs. Anyway, like it's not a big deal.
You can you know, readset and move forward. So I
think this game was a perfect moment to reset and
I feel the team will at least reset it for this.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Next Yeah, definitely it's gonna be a challenge because actually
the Rams are are are very good and the forty
nine ers are not a full strength with all the injuries.
But I think that there's ways to to come out
come out of l A with with the win.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Right.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
First of all, I agree with Carlos what you were
saying about applying pressure, find a way to get to
matcha Stafford, because then it's gonna be if if you're
not able to do that, then Pukka is playing really well,
and who's gonna cover Adams and then the Adams well,
but especially the way he's playing is amazing. So you

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have to find a way to get to Matthew Stafford
to to obviously break that that connection. And and also
on the on the defensive side of the ball aside
from that, not not that different side of the offensive
side of the ball, you have to establish the run
because the Rams, the Rams pass rush is very good.

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So if you're not able to establish the run, which
that that that has been the issue these first four games,
is going.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
To be a long day against that Rams pass rush.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Zeus Carlos a busy week ahead.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Practice today on Tuesday, travel on Wednesday, game on Thursday. Guys,
thank you so much for joining me to unpack everything
that happened on Sunday as we look ahead two week
five Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Thanks guys nice. Always have pleasure.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Though the forty nine Ers came up short. In Week four,
I caught up with Titan Luke Farrell before the game
to hear his thoughts on facing his former team and
really embracing a bigger role this season. Here's that pregame conversation.
What's up, faithful? This is your forty nine Ers team
reporter Brionn Janelle sitting with tight end Luke Farrell right
before the Jaguars matchup in Week four. Luke, congrats on

(40:03):
the first three wins of the season and thanks for
joining me today.

Speaker 11 (40:05):
Thank you, thanks for having me now.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
This game should be a.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Fun one for you because this is your first season
playing with the forty nine Ers after starting your career
in Jacksonville. What's it like preparing to face your former team.

Speaker 12 (40:17):
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. There's gonna be a lot of
familiar faces out there. You know, see a lot of
guys on tape that I played against in practice every day.
So it'll be fun and really interesting to have that experience.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, definitely. You signed with the forty nine ers this
off season. Let's go back to that moment for a bit.
What drew you to this team and what has the
transition been like coming over to the West Coast.

Speaker 12 (40:40):
Yeah, part of it. I mean, they were eager to
have me. I mean they were coming after me pretty
early in the process, right when it opened up. And
I mean it's hard to be mad about playing an
offense like this. I mean for our organization that I'd
only heard good things about from everybody that had been
here and that I had run into, and then I
played with him and came here after. So kind of

(41:02):
all that put together kind of made it an easy
decision for me.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, you come over with Mac Jones, who's been a
big part of this offense for these past two games.
Tell me about the dynamic between you two and what
it's like having him with you here in the Bay.

Speaker 8 (41:16):
It's been great.

Speaker 12 (41:17):
I mean it's been great to see him, you know,
be able to step up and get that opportunity ball out.

Speaker 11 (41:22):
So's it's awesome.

Speaker 12 (41:23):
I got to know him well last year and kind
of continue that this year, and he's just, you know,
an awesome guy to have in the locker room. He's
super positive, like having fun, and then when it's time
to lock in, he's gonna you know, he's gonna do
his thing. So it's it's great.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, it seems like you two are both such a
perfect fit for this locker room here in the Bay Area,
and it's been so fun watching you guys ball out
in these past three games. Now, offensive line coach Chris
Forrester has praised you as one of the best blocking
tight ends that he's ever seen. How much pride do
you take in that, especially coming from an established O line.

Speaker 11 (41:57):
Coach A ton?

Speaker 12 (41:58):
I mean, I hadn't heard him say that, but it
means a lot. I Mean the ultimate compliment I could
get is from an offensive lineman or an O line
coach or you know, an opposing D line. So that's
like incredible, and I take a ton of pride in that.
I mean, it's what I've hung my hat on my
career and what kind of got me to this point.
So it's it's something I'm going to continue to, you know,

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take a ton of pride in.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, as we look more at that tight end group.
With George Kittles sidelined, you've had the chance to step up.
How have you approached that challenge and what has it
been like sharing reps with guys like Jake Tanjes and
Braden Willis.

Speaker 10 (42:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (42:32):
I mean that's just part of it. You know, it's
going to happen. It happened kind of to us last
year with Evan Ingram, and it's similar. Just especially as
a tight end, you've got to be, you know, malleable.
You've got to be able to fit in wherever they
need you and not hesitate. And I think that's what's
been awesome about our unit this year is we haven't hesitated.
I mean you've seen you've seen Jake step up and
just kind of the stuff, the plays he's been able

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to make, you know, after not getting that opportunity and
then just as soon as it's ended him, he just
didn't didn't blink. And as an unit, I think that's,
you know, kind of something we've been really proud of
the first three games.

Speaker 13 (43:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I was looking a lot at your career leading up
to this interview, and it seems like since your pro
day at Ohio State, people have been asking about flexing
your receiving abilities on top of your elite play as
a blocker. You scored your first touchdown with San Francisco
in Week two. How special was that moment for you?

Speaker 12 (43:22):
Very I mean it was a long time coming, you know,
something you always think about. So to have that happen
and be able to you know, spike the ball after
was was pretty great.

Speaker 8 (43:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, tell me more, like about the maybe comments you
got from family friends, former coaches as they reflected on
that moment for you.

Speaker 11 (43:38):
Just super happy for me.

Speaker 12 (43:39):
I have a really great you know, support system around
in my family, close friends that my mom was immediately
furious because they weren't there in person, they were at
home watching, but no, they were.

Speaker 11 (43:52):
They were so happy and just proud and and you.

Speaker 12 (43:55):
Know, it's it's incredible to you know, be in a
position to make them proud and and you know see
that come true and all that, and so it's it
was great.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah, I can only imagine.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Now, let's talk Jaguars. Having spent four seasons in Jacksonville.
I know a lot has changed this off season, but
what stands out to you about that defense and what
kind of a challenge do they present this week?

Speaker 12 (44:16):
I think they played really hard. I mean, Josh Allen
is you know, he's super high motor, he's great leader
on that defense, and he's gonna, you know, come after
you every play.

Speaker 11 (44:26):
And I think the rest of the team follows that.

Speaker 12 (44:28):
You know, Fouryer is the same way. He kind of
commands the rest of them, and they play aggressive and
they come off the ball and that's just yah, something
to do really well.

Speaker 8 (44:38):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Now as the team is preparing, do you find yourself
sharing little insights from your time there with your teammates
this week of any moments like that come up at all?

Speaker 8 (44:48):
Uh here and there.

Speaker 12 (44:48):
I mean the coaches kind of handle it for the
most part, but if there's they got a question on
specific like how a guy likes to play, I can,
you know, give a little two cents there when when
I can. But but yeah, I think we're all pretty
pretty prepared for it.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah, that should be fun.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Now we're three weeks into this season now, and the
immediate reaction to each win has been that this team
is resilient, that this team is gritty. I talked to
Kyle Uschek after last week's game. He said that the
offense is still piecing things together, which is exciting. Tell
me your thoughts on the state of the offense and
how you guys are looking to show up this Sunday.

Speaker 12 (45:21):
Yeah, resiliency is kind of the perfect word for it,
and that's exactly what you need, especially early on in
the season. You know it's not going to be perfect.
You know you're not gonna have everything you know running smoothly.
There's gonna be bumped since and you know, you know,
issues that come up. So be able to like endure
and bounce back after after a negative and just keep
pushing is the most important thing at this time. So

(45:42):
I think if we keep carrying that, we're going to
be just fine. I mean being able to you know,
have that attitude to to win those games and and
pull pull those out. It's it's only going to help
us in the long run.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, on that point of you know, the team still
piecing things together. What's been the main focus this week
as you look ahead to Jacksonville this Sunday?

Speaker 12 (46:02):
Kind of what I mean, what it has been every
week every week this far is just execution, you know,
being top on top of our stuff. We're we're supposed
to be when we're supposed to be there and then
and then at that point, you know you were going
to come off the ball and play hard.

Speaker 11 (46:13):
So you know the execution part is the biggest one.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Now, let's take you inside the action. Linebacker Fred Warner
was miked up for the week for a matchup. Let's
take a look and listen to everything he brought to
the fields.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
That white at home, that white at home.

Speaker 8 (46:29):
All right, Just so y'all know I'm monked up today.
If you want to be on TV, just hang with me,
all right, you want to be on TV, just hang
with me.

Speaker 14 (47:01):
Oh yeah, no, boys at home.

Speaker 8 (47:07):
Let's go. Come on. That's you want to drink.

Speaker 15 (47:20):
That's the world.

Speaker 16 (47:23):
Let me see that.

Speaker 8 (47:29):
Let's go, Hey, brother's the messag is gonna be the
same every week.

Speaker 10 (47:35):
Man.

Speaker 17 (47:36):
We lead the way all the way and understand every
single week. Man, we pray for these big moments. Play
a style, Run ahead, run ahead. They need us every
freaking play. All right, let's give it to the way
to give me exactly what they want.

Speaker 8 (47:49):
Best three, Let's go fresh. I got it.

Speaker 18 (47:59):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Of the.

Speaker 17 (48:15):
Hey, lot lots of communicating today, huh. So everybody is
hanging with me, taking one step at a time, one
snap at the time, and let's stack.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
Had a ball on your mind, It's gonna come todight.

Speaker 19 (48:24):
So here comes the forty nine Ers offense and pretty
rolls left, throws out the flat, falls down, gets up
first down, gets a block from Jennings across midfield.

Speaker 13 (48:33):
What a play by us, check jeeze.

Speaker 8 (48:37):
Nothing like an explosive to start the game with a
full back.

Speaker 13 (48:39):
To the flat, pretty under center.

Speaker 19 (48:41):
He takes the snap, rolls play action, now floats it
right Luke Ferrell, he makes the catch first down.

Speaker 8 (48:46):
Remand's game.

Speaker 20 (48:49):
Look the rel Hey, we need all living, we need
all living. Huh, y'all stay with me all day, y'all
stay with me all day. Hey, I act like you're
own the ball like this.

Speaker 8 (49:03):
I got you own the ball.

Speaker 21 (49:05):
Like that.

Speaker 13 (49:07):
Two backs in the game.

Speaker 19 (49:08):
Now once split out to the right, and now ETM
is gonna shift behind Trevor Lawrence. He's gonna take the
shotguns spin, throw it the ETN out of the flat,
and the forty nine US then jump on him out
near midfield.

Speaker 8 (49:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's good. Is this good?

Speaker 19 (49:22):
Crowd encourages the forty nine Ers defense on the Jags
opening drive. Trevor Lawrence straight dropping play action Waits Waits
Waite brows he patted away it nearly intercepted. Third down
for the Jaguars. Shotgun to Lawrence. Good pocket throw over
to the middle crop by They tied had strings and
it's a weight room play out to the forty yard

(49:42):
line where he is shy of the line the game.

Speaker 13 (49:46):
Trevor Lawrence is under center.

Speaker 19 (49:47):
He turns and kid Travis Etn ripped down Bootcottie Bryance
in the backfield.

Speaker 8 (49:53):
Bootgotti Rice, No matter what, just get him on the ground.

Speaker 13 (49:58):
Just get him on the ground.

Speaker 8 (49:59):
We living on the day. That's see. I'm putting that
de soney. Everybody gets to the ruck, all right, one
play at a time. Man, everything we.

Speaker 19 (50:10):
Got attached to the left does Lawrence takes the from
out of center Turrench gives Etn head down.

Speaker 14 (50:15):
That are showing a little pressure. Fred Waterer is hovering
over the.

Speaker 13 (50:18):
Center and Alwa's gonna bail out.

Speaker 19 (50:20):
Four man rush Shotgunlawrence pulls it down and throws it
over the middle.

Speaker 17 (50:24):
Hey, we got a two minute coming up. We got
a two minute drill coming up. This is three and
out right here, this is it, this is it. We'll
play a time man send, use your hands and coverage
with the LEAs in the ground. All right, work together,
Let's go. Let's commute to Taylor hone. We need all
elevens in the rock. We gotta give on team something
to get in spired about right here, play play it's

(50:44):
racingal play.

Speaker 8 (50:45):
His fire right here. We got his fire up the stadium.

Speaker 19 (50:49):
Trevor Lawrence out of the shotgun, takes the snap and
is not on the same page.

Speaker 8 (50:52):
Part. That's one. That's one. Let's go two.

Speaker 14 (50:55):
Lawrence in the shotgun. He takes it quick throw out
to Tim Patrick.

Speaker 19 (50:58):
He gets clipped, he gets he gets spun down up
in stout and third and eleven. Under three minutes to
go in this second quarter, and the Niners defense get
off the field.

Speaker 13 (51:09):
Trevor Lawrence is in the shotgun.

Speaker 14 (51:11):
Four man rush Lawrence straight back drop.

Speaker 19 (51:13):
Time pats it throws check down the way five fred water.

Speaker 8 (51:20):
Whoa they want to find me so bad? It'll find
me at the right time. No, he'll find me at
the right time.

Speaker 17 (51:26):
God's timon anyway, keep playing, keep playing with me right now?

Speaker 8 (51:32):
How money as fly gloves? I had you get these
bad the bad mud o gloves off me one of
y'all go him on him. He nervous, he nervous, he nervous.

Speaker 17 (51:51):
Yo.

Speaker 8 (51:52):
That's good, that's good.

Speaker 13 (51:56):
WHOA We got five second play clock to Trevor Lawrence
utter center.

Speaker 8 (52:02):
Does he know it?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
One zero?

Speaker 19 (52:04):
He did not get it off, and flags come in.
There was some movement, so it's either a false starter
or a delay.

Speaker 14 (52:15):
Let's go, yes, dog, No, don't.

Speaker 19 (52:20):
Let's do Berdie's under center play action inside pitch McCaffrey.

Speaker 13 (52:26):
He makes the catch, makes.

Speaker 19 (52:27):
A man miss, breaks the tackle, and McCaffrey is in.

Speaker 13 (52:32):
Finally one time, forty nine ers. They're going for two.

Speaker 19 (52:38):
They trail seventeen to twelve to try and make it
a three point game. Bourn goes in motion left to right.
Bertie's in the shotgun. McCaffrey now motions out from beside him.

Speaker 13 (52:47):
He takes the snap. Bertie looking looking bouncing.

Speaker 19 (52:49):
Now he's gonna roll out to his right back pedal
in fifteen backfoot throw end zone.

Speaker 14 (52:54):
Jettis caught it, caught at.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
He converts.

Speaker 14 (53:01):
Ball, says it the thirty two quick snaps.

Speaker 19 (53:03):
Dropping back out of the shotgun, Lawrence pumps pressure throws.

Speaker 13 (53:06):
Check popped out.

Speaker 14 (53:09):
Fred Water punched it.

Speaker 8 (53:10):
Out most sports fun move in Francise history. You wanter
punch one. Yeah, that ain't too bad. Right now, we
played on asshole. We just gotta keep going.

Speaker 21 (53:20):
Huh.

Speaker 17 (53:20):
We're focusing on what we can control. That's see one
play at a time. It ain't having all one one
at a time, one at a time.

Speaker 14 (53:26):
Bertie takes the snap, drops back, good pocket.

Speaker 19 (53:28):
Over the middle, high way up there. De Marcus Robinson's
taped that ball from danger.

Speaker 8 (53:34):
And there we go, there we go, there we go.
Make a play. It is turn up a little.

Speaker 19 (53:38):
It's third down and five shot gun, empty backfield. Bertie
takes pumps pressure, pulls it down. Now extends throws and
what a catch they needed that he's needed that.

Speaker 8 (53:51):
Start dancing.

Speaker 19 (53:55):
Now they set up the tight end screen. Left, there's Toad.
Toadjas is into space the five he times heads touchdown
forty nine ers.

Speaker 17 (54:07):
Hey, he's the moment you dream of. Right here, He's
the moment you dream of one at a time, one
at a time, one at a time, one at a time.
We need everybody, We need everybody.

Speaker 8 (54:25):
Nope, wins right and join your experience.

Speaker 11 (54:32):
I'm a great rest.

Speaker 9 (54:35):
You know that, A.

Speaker 8 (54:39):
Happy for you, brother man, keep going on. Think you
more huh to see too money out there? Yes, sir,
keep going on. It's life right here.

Speaker 13 (54:49):
Boy, are we back?

Speaker 8 (54:54):
Were back?

Speaker 2 (55:01):
We are just moments away from Thursday night football.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
I'm going to take you inside the locker with me
to hear how the team is getting ready for that
Week five matchup against the Los Angeles Rams.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
I ain't been noo.

Speaker 22 (55:12):
How do you feel about him learning it?

Speaker 18 (55:13):
Anyways? I'm you know, it's always good to see people
riffing reffling the tie, so no, you know, especially those
Georgia boys, you know they g it's always good to
see them in some Alabama gear.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
So what what caught him to to wear it?

Speaker 11 (55:28):
They lost, they got beat.

Speaker 15 (55:30):
He just pledged to do that if they lost.

Speaker 18 (55:32):
Yeah, so usually you know how the Robbers do, like
we you know, we can't bet, like, well, we wanna bet,
so we'll tell him like yo, like if y'all lose,
y'all gotta wear you know, our attire and vice versa.
So they lost, so they gotta wear Alabama gear for
the whole day like that.

Speaker 22 (55:51):
How are you feeling about this week? The Rams are
just trying to where the Russian game is in general.

Speaker 18 (55:55):
I'm feeling good about it and I I just feel
like we're we're on the doorstep to you know, just
really getting the run game popping and uh you know,
no no better opportunity than this week is just get
it popping off.

Speaker 22 (56:07):
You know, what have you learned about Christian's work at
the Kiss game and just how he attacks everything.

Speaker 18 (56:14):
He's very consistent, you know, he he shows up to
work here every single day, and you know that's the
reason why he's who he is, why he's a great player.
You know, he's super consistent and you know he's always
into you know, just you know, sharpening his craft. You
know that's I've just been able to watch him do that,
you know, in the time that I've been here, and
it's you know, it's been good.

Speaker 22 (56:35):
Do you guys have to prepare differently at all considering
you don't know who the quarterback is quite.

Speaker 18 (56:40):
Yeah, Uh nah, I think the preparation stay the same,
Like we just gotta focus on, you know, what's been
installed and how we gotta do our job, you know,
as a team, and you know, regardless of what quarterback
is in the game, you know, we gotta do higher
part in the games.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Short we turned around.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
What if you noticed so far because he's.

Speaker 17 (57:02):
Gonna do it so far.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
It's a fast tempo.

Speaker 21 (57:06):
We're learning third down short yards at the same time
we learn the first and second down. So trying to
just learn to play because especial as I can, especially
going into this week learning the game playing, So just
trying to adapt to it down.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
The short And how are you feeling physically just with
the short Way?

Speaker 10 (57:21):
To me?

Speaker 21 (57:21):
Personally, I feel good. I always make sure to stay
on top of my body to make sure I'm good
each and every week, so I feel healthy and I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
To go Sturtsday.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Like you're adjusting to the system. I mean each week
you're making a play out there.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
So how do you feel like you're going?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
And I just think progressive in this system.

Speaker 21 (57:37):
I feel I'm progressive fast. I feel I'm going out
there and playing confident. I feel like I have to
play with down. Obviously there's looks I'm gonna have to
learn on the fly, but I feel i'm with justin fying.
I feel I need to play more and better than
what I have been even though I have been playing good,
but I feel I pulled myself to a higher standard,
so I want to play for that standard.

Speaker 22 (57:57):
It's one of the first times you're playing against the
folder quarterback. Is it sort of a pinch me moment.

Speaker 21 (58:03):
I wouldn't say a pinch me moment, but I've been
watching him for a long time, so he's been in
the game for a long time. So he's gonna find
ways to pick me out and I'm gonna have to
counter that. So he's a skilled quarterback and I'm gonna
be a skilled dB.

Speaker 23 (58:19):
Thank you, thank you, rock and back. We're just talking
about the Rams defensive line. I mean probably a pass
rushing perspective, but just uh the spirit and uh, you know,
I guess there attless that they play.

Speaker 24 (58:34):
I mean what sticks out to you and you know
it the Yeah, I think just that you know, they
play well together. They play hard, not just in pass
rush but in the run game, and they tie it
all together. So definitely a big challenge that, uh, you know,
we're gonna have to.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Keep it on.

Speaker 24 (58:50):
What's the key year in the short week prayer, I'll
just be be extremely diligent mentally, take care of your body,
get back to as you know, one hundred percent as
quick as possible. But just make sure, you're continuing to
go over everything because there's a lot to install at once,
and you know, just gotta in order to play sound
football in a short week, you just gotta mentally be

(59:11):
locked in their first.

Speaker 8 (59:14):
Say again.

Speaker 15 (59:18):
Three days, your your first full with this team or
first game where you had a full week of prep
was down at so far and they had all those
touchdowns in different fashions. How busy was that week of preparation?
And looking back caught it in retrospect.

Speaker 11 (59:34):
Yeah, it was crazy. It was definitely a blur of
a week.

Speaker 24 (59:38):
You know, it was good to get a full week
instead of just two days when I first got here
for the Chiefs game.

Speaker 11 (59:43):
So it was great to get a full week.

Speaker 24 (59:45):
And you know a lot of credit to Bobby t
and a lot of the coaches who helped me get there,
because it's a lot to install and a lot to
you know, learn in a week. But I just I
remember it was a great feeling, great winning locker room
after that game. And we had to buy after that too,
so I could kind of get my bearings.

Speaker 15 (01:00:02):
Were you surprised that they were even able to install
a trick? Right, given just how hectic that that must
have been No.

Speaker 24 (01:00:08):
I mean that's you know, those ones are easy to remember,
you know, it's they stick out whenever you're installing them.

Speaker 11 (01:00:14):
So I was prepared for that.

Speaker 16 (01:00:16):
Have you ever had a season, or even a stretch
of the season like this one where the receiving yards
are out pacing your your rushing yards in the way
they are right now?

Speaker 8 (01:00:27):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Yeah, I don't know. I'd have to go back and
look at the numbers.

Speaker 25 (01:00:31):
Is it different to all to prepare for a team
that you play all of every year a couple of years.
These coaches have been at each place for a long time.
You guys know a lot about each other that make
it ain't easier at all to prepare.

Speaker 24 (01:00:44):
I mean, nothing's you know, easier necessarily. I just think
for you know, when you play a divisional opponent that
you know and they know you, it just comes down
to be in sound, you know, playing mistake free football,
and and then mindset sire.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
I know the answers, you can always be better and improve, et.

Speaker 16 (01:01:00):
Cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 23 (01:01:01):
But I mean when you I mean, it's another run
game question. But I mean when you look at it,
I mean, it often doesn't seem to be tons of rome, uh,
you know, for you to roam, but do you see
opportunities like I should I miss this or I mean
you put it? How much do you think could you

(01:01:21):
could you be better.

Speaker 8 (01:01:22):
To help this running?

Speaker 11 (01:01:24):
Definitely?

Speaker 24 (01:01:25):
I think you know, whether or not you're leading the
league in rushing or not, you know you can always
be better every runner and was going to say the
same thing, So I definitely think, you know, we can
all be better.

Speaker 22 (01:01:34):
I can be better and you know we're close though,
christ And I saw the clip that you had on
Georgia's show where you thought you were going to be
traded to the Rams at that time?

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Is that something that was exciting to you?

Speaker 11 (01:01:44):
And then how quick was the emotion to be traded
here instead?

Speaker 24 (01:01:47):
You know it was it was such a blur, and
I had heard so many different things that I tried
to just focus on being where my feet were because
I didn't I still didn't know whether or not I
was going to get traded, Like you know, I practiced
Wednesday and Thursday for the Panthers and then you know,
I'd heard rumors, but you know, I'm still preparing to
play for a team, and so it was kind of
a weird, uh, you know, mental situation to be in.

(01:02:14):
And I just said, you know, whatever happens happens. I stopped,
I stopped reading into you know what people were saying,
and just you know, whatever was going to happen, it
was going to happen. And obviously see when I came here,
I was extremely thrilled.

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
Is it a weird more mental space just a curiosity
to be in when the run game is kind of
struggling and then you're coming off the loss going down
against a rival.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
Is it the same there or not?

Speaker 15 (01:02:33):
Really?

Speaker 7 (01:02:34):
You mean, like are you are you like thinking and
reflecting on like what am I or what can I
do to change the way we're producing in the run game,
or what can this person do or what can we
do as a team? Are you mentally reflecting on that
going into this one?

Speaker 24 (01:02:48):
I think, you know, look, I've been I've had stretches
in the run game where I've had like thirty five
yards rushing, then forty, then thirty eight, and then you
know it feels like you can't run the ball, and
those are in the middle of the season. But the
reality of the situation isn't always you know, that's not
always the truth. And sometimes you are just one guy off,

(01:03:08):
or sometimes you are an arm tackle away from breaking
a couple of long ones, and all of a sudden,
you have you know, big games, and you just don't
know when that's gonna happen. So I try to just
correct mistakes and capitalize on strengths. But each game is different,
and in the run, each play has a life of
its own, and so you can't predict. You can't think
that it's gonna be one way or another. You just
you have to, you know, treat it as that. Treat

(01:03:30):
it as you know, one play at a time.

Speaker 13 (01:03:33):
Good.

Speaker 11 (01:03:35):
Oh really, okay, well I like to be like up
just that one day Hall of Famers.

Speaker 7 (01:03:44):
Don't try to pull some acrobat Okay, yeah, sure, change
your approach.

Speaker 11 (01:03:52):
I'm sure change for you.

Speaker 26 (01:03:55):
I guess it's just less days. You know, you got
to cram a lot of things into only a couple
of days of prep. Getting the body back is number one. Uh,
you know, usually takes all all six days to get
ready to for you know, get your body ready for
a game on the next Sunday. And so how can
you find a way to expire that process on a
short week?

Speaker 9 (01:04:12):
You know, it's better like if you're gonna have a
loss like you did Sunday, that it is a short week.

Speaker 11 (01:04:18):
Yeah, of course you'd rather win, you know on a
short week.

Speaker 26 (01:04:20):
But no kidding, but yeah, no, yeah, it is good
to you know, try to find a way to get
that bad taste out of your mouth and uh, you know,
get back right right back out there watching.

Speaker 11 (01:04:30):
Up for a lot of a lot of years.

Speaker 8 (01:04:31):
Have you seen his game from you?

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Are you.

Speaker 11 (01:04:36):
Some about those bou guys?

Speaker 26 (01:04:37):
Man, he so happy for him hopefully you know, this
is the worst outing of the year and they can
continue his his his success later on. But he just
does all the little things that most receivers don't like,
just as small as getting involved in the run game,
the way that he run blocks the run after catch
when he has great hands to be able to transition
when he does catch the ball, and then running through contact.

(01:04:59):
Uh you know, the energy that he plays with, I
know is inspirational to his teammates. Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:05:04):
And so yeah, man, he's he's done a phenomenal job.
It's only in a short amount of time you watched
this kind of ceiling for him when from back when
he saw the college or it's just.

Speaker 26 (01:05:13):
If he did even no, I think no nobody could
have could have seen this type of success that he's seen.

Speaker 11 (01:05:20):
Uh, only only he knows that. Only he knew that, right.

Speaker 26 (01:05:23):
I think the Rams probably saw something in him, But
it'd be silly to say that anybody would have thought
that he'd be as great.

Speaker 11 (01:05:29):
As he's been. You know him pretty well.

Speaker 26 (01:05:32):
Yeah, I played with his older brother, kind of cool
Boa for three years. So me and Pooker had had
some conversations right before the draft and yeah, great, great kid.

Speaker 9 (01:05:44):
What do you think has enabled him to take what
you saw from him in college and translated to this
kind of success.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
In the NFL?

Speaker 26 (01:05:52):
I think a big part of it as a young
player is like having the confidence of knowing that you belong.
I think that's literally just the start of it all,
because just speaking from experience, when I came in, it
was like so overwhelming playing against guys that I had
watched on TV for so long, and it's like, do
I really belong? And so for him, I think from
day one he was out there, I think had back

(01:06:13):
to back to back games of like ten plus receptions, right,
and it was a guy that Matt Stafford could rely
on from day one, which spoke to his preparation level.
Even uh having a guy like Matt Stafford rely on him,
with a guy like Cooper Cup being out there just
spoke to how ready he was for his moment. And
he's continued to obviously stay humble and finding ways to
get better in his game through his first what three years.

Speaker 16 (01:06:35):
As far as my receivers, where did you rank and
get your pulpy to tackle bring down to the ground.
I don't think you've ever had a chance to tackle Deebo.

Speaker 10 (01:06:47):
Yeah no.

Speaker 26 (01:06:47):
Uh, me and Diebo had you know, had our little
thuds in practice and whatnot, but uh no, Pooga, Like
I truly believe that's one of the things that makes
him special is his, uh, his willingness to seek out
contact as a receiver. You don't you don't hear that
a lot through you know about receivers around the league.
And I think obviously you spoke about Debo and he's
another one of this guy that's not afraid to seek
it out. So yeah, man, I don't know something about

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d I U Polynesian combination something like.

Speaker 9 (01:07:14):
That, speaking like, are there parallels between like would your
former teammates or guys who watched him call, would they
be surprised if the success you've had, are there parallels between.

Speaker 17 (01:07:25):
You and Colpeo?

Speaker 26 (01:07:27):
Yeah, I mean I'd be shocked if somebody were to
tell me, Hey, yeah, I watched Ford BYU and I
knew he'd be good in the NFL. It's like, you know,
nobody really knows until you're until you're there doing it right, Uh, Poka?

Speaker 11 (01:07:40):
What was grabbing the fifth round? And he's a superstar
you know already.

Speaker 21 (01:07:45):
So.

Speaker 26 (01:07:47):
It completely speaks to his work and what he's been
able to do behind the scenes that people probably don't see.

Speaker 11 (01:07:53):
So it's all all kudos to him.

Speaker 7 (01:07:55):
Because you mentioned having that moment when you were young,
a feeling you didn't you don't know if you belong
when you played against guys that you grew up watching
some guys in the locker room. This time around, who
will be out there with you kind of in the
same position. What was it that clique for you to
help you feel like you belonged? Then are you having
those conversations with them heading into this week?

Speaker 26 (01:08:14):
I mean it was it was a matter of just
making big plays, you know, in in the NFL, you know,
to know, like all right, so I know I can
do it, and then just the consistency of it all
and trying to see how.

Speaker 11 (01:08:27):
Far you could take it.

Speaker 26 (01:08:28):
You know, I know a lot of these guys have
way more confidence in their abilities than I did back
at that time. So they're in a much better position
to continue to thrive in our scheme, in what they're
doing for our team.

Speaker 22 (01:08:40):
Do you remember your reaction when he was taken by
the Rams and did his brother send you a text
or anything like take it easy on him?

Speaker 11 (01:08:48):
No, I don't remember. I don't remember much, you know,
hag of a player.

Speaker 8 (01:08:53):
Man.

Speaker 11 (01:08:54):
Hopefully, like I said, worst game against us this week?

Speaker 8 (01:08:59):
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Joining me now is Prime's Thursday Night football analyst and
forty nine Ers alum Richard Sherman to preview this week
five Thursday Night football matchup against the Rams.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Sharon, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Today, No problem us now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
This is the forty nine ers second divisional game. For
the Rams, this will be their first. These games always
mean the most. They're always competitive. Matthew staff Efford looked
solid against the Colts, delivering in critical moments from a
cornerbacks perspective. What's the key to disrupting, disrupting a veteran
QB like Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 8 (01:09:33):
Well, you're not going to confuse him.

Speaker 10 (01:09:35):
So's it's just being sound and doing your job, trusting
a coordinators, rustling sala Is, putting you in the right calls,
putting you in the right position, just doing your job. Well,
I guess you can try to disguise it a little
bit if it helps with the receivers, but you know,
these are two of the best receivers in the league,
and DeVante Adams and Pookin Nicula, So it's going to
come down and tackling. You know, Pooking Nicole is a

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strong receiver who gets his jack and breaks tackles and
catches passes in critical moments, So you're going to have
to do your best to contain him. And Defante Adams
is a nightmare one on one, so they're going to
have to be on there on our p's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
And q's exactly to that point.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Looking at his targets, Pooka Nakula plays with toughness, great separation.
What makes him a unique challenge for this forty nine
ers defense, especially young guys like up In Stout.

Speaker 10 (01:10:20):
Well, he's got strong hands, he's a strong runner. I mean,
a lot of the things that made Deebo really really
difficult to stop are the same things that make Poolka
tough to catch to stop. He gets a lot of
targets and he's not going down with one guy, and
so you know, you've got to be aware of where
he is on the field at all times. He's he's

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he's in the run game. Uh, he's blocking hard, he's
catching the ball, and he's running hard. They're going to
him a lot. So it's one of those games you're
gonna strap your your helmet up in cleats, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Now looking at the Niners offensive side, the engine of
their offense has been Christian McCaffrey over one hundred total
yards in all four games so far.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
What makes him so difficult to defend.

Speaker 11 (01:11:06):
Well, it's just it's the same thing.

Speaker 10 (01:11:07):
I mean, he's he's a guy that's going to be
dynamic in the in the run game, he's gonna he's
gonna be involved in the past game. He's going to
be a security blanket for the quarterback. He's going to
find a way to get to break tackle and get
the yards that hitting yards that are there on the field. Uh,
He's incredibly smart football player and that shows up in
every aspect of his game.

Speaker 9 (01:11:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Now, Sean McVay emphasized how Kyle Shanahan's teams are always
physical upfront. How much does the D line have to
set the tone in this game?

Speaker 10 (01:11:36):
Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be a big part of it. Obviously,
the Rams have an incredibly talented D line. The lack
of pressures last week last weekend against the Jags was evident.
So they're going to have to go out there and
send a message early and often that there you know
that that was an aberration and that was a fluke,
and that this D line, even without Nicholas john Bosa,

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is going to be an issue and something to be
content with.

Speaker 17 (01:12:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
On Monday McVeigh he talked about how the forty nine
ers fans usually show up to these LA road games.
How important is that environment for the forty nine ers
who are on the road, especially on a short week, No.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Question, it's it's huge.

Speaker 8 (01:12:14):
LEVI South is what they call that.

Speaker 10 (01:12:15):
I believe, you know, I know that uh Niner fans
take pride and that and the faith or will be
that be down there loud and proud and I'm excited
to see that.

Speaker 11 (01:12:26):
But it's huge, it's a huge advantage.

Speaker 10 (01:12:28):
It's a huge demoralizing factor for the home team, you know,
to see the opponents fans coming out and supporting the
way that the Faith will do. And I'm sure the
team appreciates it, even being on a road film like
they're at home.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Yeah, from your perspective, what are some of the most
important matchups in this game?

Speaker 10 (01:12:48):
It's going to be the Rams defensive line versus the
Niners offensive line. You know, there was a lot of
pressure on brock Pertry last week. They're going to have
to rectify that. They're going to have to find some
holes and open some holes against this Rams front. They
had some young talented kids, starting with Jared Vers. So
that's going to be a matchup to watch. Match what

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we already talked about, Pooka Nku and DeVante Adams versus
the forty nine or secondary and whether it's Upton style,
whether it's Diamad or whoever's out there is going to
have to to deal with these guys and do a
good job in order for the forty nine ers to
pull out a winning Another matchup will be a vice

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versa the forty doners defensive line versus the Rams offensive line.
They'll have to find a way to get some pressure
on Stafford. If he's comfortable and he has time, he's
tough to deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Now, these Thursday games, they require clarity, they require decisiveness.
As a former player, what did you focus on to
most simplify things for yourself in these short weeks?

Speaker 10 (01:13:53):
Just the fundamentals, the fundamentals of the game, especially as
a defensive player, just running and hidden. These are division opponents,
which makes it a lot easier. You see him so often,
you know him so well. There's not going to be
a lot of surprises, our confusion about what Sean McVay
intends on doing to San Francisco forty nine ers, So
I think there's you know, obviously that level of familiarity

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helps on a short week because you don't have to
go super deep into game planning. Obviously he's put some
new wrinkles in every year, every team does, But for
the most part, you understand who you're facing fundamentally, so
that's what you focus on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
You focus on just doing your.

Speaker 10 (01:14:32):
Job well, tackling well, running well, enthusiasm, energy, and trying
to be as healthy as you can going into it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Finally, Shirm, you've been in these forty nine ers RAMS
matchups before.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
What makes this rivalry so unique?

Speaker 10 (01:14:46):
I think it starts with the coaches. I think it
starts with the coaches. Two great play callers who know
each other incredibly well, two systems that are similar, especially
in the fundamental aspects of them, and a lot of
great players. A lot of great players on both sides
of the football. Quarterback play is going to be at
a high level, and it's going to be fun to watch.

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It's fun to watch two teams that know each other
well because it'll come down to the details that win
this game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
This will absolutely be a fun one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Sham, thank you so much for joining me today, and
we'll see you on Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
No problem, see you Thursday.

Speaker 8 (01:15:22):
They can't