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Jesús Zárate and Carlos Yustis join The Saloon to recap San Francisco’s Week 4 contest and look ahead to the Los Angeles Rams in Week 5, with interviews featuring TE Luke Farrell and Prime's "Thursday Night Football" analyst Richard Sherman.

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
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(00:42):
your podcasts. Hey faithfol Welcome back to The Saloon presented
by Cisco. The forty nine Ers are three and one
after a hard fought loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars in
Week four. I'm your forty nine Ers team reporter Brianna
Janelle here to break down all the action from Sunday's
game and look forward to Thursday Night Football in Los

(01:03):
Angeles against the Rams. In this episode, you'll get to
hear from Titan Luke Ferrell, our forty nine Ers insiders,
and Richard Sherman from Primes Thursday Night Football. Don't forget
to subscribe to this Salon on YouTube, Sirius XM, and
your favorite podcast platform. Now here's all the action from
Sunday's game. Joining me now are Jezusaratte and Carlos You
stease to recap everything that happened in Week four against

(01:25):
the Jacksonville Jaguars. Guys, thanks so much for joining me today.
How are you feeling after that Week four game? It
was a tough loss, but sort of a close game
towards the end.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yes, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
I don't say I feel like if I was faithful
i'm the team. I feel frustrated, very frustrated, and not
because of the loss. The problem is not losing, because
sometimes when you feel that you want to forget about
it and just move on this one, you're frustrated because
even though you made so many mistakes, and we talked
about it before, this is a game that, with the
amount of mistakes you made, you should have lost by
two or three possessions, and you still find your seven

(01:57):
that position within the last drive you could have won
the game. So to me, that makes it more frustrated
because it shows you how deep your team is, how
good you are, and it's only those miscues that pull
your head. But the fact that you can come back
even though you didn't fully but you put your seven
up position to win after all those things, it's actually
a pretty good thing for the team.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yes, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
So it's definitely frustrating with everything that Carlos mentioned on
the four turnovers, all the mistakes on offense, on the defense,
on special teams, so it was like mistakes all over
all over the place. But still even though with a
game like that where you usually you're not gonna see
the forty nine ers play play that way. In fact,
Christian McCaffrey says said that after the game, he said, Uh,

(02:39):
he's a characteristic of having like all the receivers dropping footballs,
including myself.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
That's what That's what he mentioned.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
So so yeah, you're definitely that's kind of in a
way like the good things looking to the future that
you're not that you're not gonna see like that the
forty nine ers this way, and especially considering all the
injuries the team is dealing with.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I think it's a.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Great it's awesome that the team was able to start
the season three and no because now now you have,
like that a little bit more like margin of error
kind of weather.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
The storm until you get guys like Kettled back.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Obviously you're now on a short week, but in a
way that helps that you started three and no. But
definitely I agree with Carlos. It hurts that when you
face a team like the Jaguars. Obviously they're pretty good
for overs, and we mentioned on the lead the league. Yeah, definitely,
so so they they're gonna take advantage. And I think
there were like two key plays here.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
In the game. Remember that that fumble that by Luke Ferrell,
he fumbles the ball, Jacksonville recovers it, and then the
next play is touchdown from ETN forty a forty eight
yards TV on the on the ground.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
And then the following in the second half, in the
third quarter, you have that drop by by Kendrick Bourne.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Maybe if he.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Catches that football, maybe he scores or at least he
gets into the into the red soon, but he's not
able to hold on to the football. And then you
you have to punt, and on that punt, uh, the
Jacksonville scores that eighty seven yard punt return. So so yeah,
those two places I look at them and it's like,
I think that that's where the game if you had

(04:14):
to pick, like what moments you lost the game, I
think those two stand out to to me.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, it's interesting. It's such mixed emotions when you're reflecting
on the game because Jacksonville they forced the Niners to
make mistakes and then they capitalized on that. But just
like Carlos, you were saying, somehow the forty nine ers
were still in it, which gives you some optimism. So
it's a mixture of optimism frustration. But at the end
of the day, the Niners are flushing it. They're clearing

(04:41):
their heads and their minds are on Thursday night football
against their divisional opponent, the Los Angeles Rams. There's a
lot to unpack, but first let's look into Sunday a
little bit more. Christian McCaffrey, he talked after the game,
obviously upset about the fumbles and the drop balls, but
he still continues to be the engine of this offense.
Another one hundred plus yard game for him. What stood

(05:02):
out to you about his role in Week.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Four, Well, specifically that right he hasn't been able to
establish the run for a maria of reasons.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
And we'll talk about him a little.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Later, but you find ways to make him help you, right,
because if he was a one dimensional player and you
had used to run him between the tackles and I
mean right now, would probably be injured. Right, So you
find ways to make him count and his course, his
first game for such another season, so it's important to
get him involved, and you're finding ways to get him
to the ball, because when you have a player with

(05:32):
that caliber, with the ability, you have.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
To find him in places where he can help you.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
And those passes to the flat sometimes when they find
him through the middle, he makes him count. And he
had one explosive run after a pass that that made
a difference.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
So all those things make McCaffrey who he is.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
And the one thing is that the one thing that
makes me very happy and very happy for him is
that I know how frustrated he was last year for
not being available, and this year, even though we have
these big lists of players that are not available, he's
he's he's healthy, he's looking good, he's helping where he can,
and even if he had a couple of mistakes, he
owns up to them. He knows exactly what he needs

(06:10):
to do. And to me, that's better because you're gonna
find this next game on a sure week, and players
like him, you know that he's not gonna make those
mistakes again, and I'd rather have him, in a way
make them in a game like this, So early in
the season and then kind of turning it back for
for again that is this important because it's the divisional game.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
But you know what mistakes, but if they happen against
an AFC opponent, it's not a divisional game. We'll take
our Greek where we could get it.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Definitely, definitely, because remember we were also in a very
close game with the Cardinals, and the Cardinals obviously it's
a divisional opponent, so you were able to get that win.
But going back to McCaffrey, Yeah, I totally agree with you,
Carlos McCaffrey. We know what McCaffrey brings to the table
every time he's on the on the field, and he's
proven that he's one hundred percent because obviously it's a

(06:57):
human nature not to be concerned after what happened last
year that he missed games and he even mentioned it.
I remember that that week, Remember it was, yeah, it
was the first week of decision, like going into that
Seattle game that Thursday, when when on the injury report.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
He was still a little questionable.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, with the cafe and everybody started like like freaking out,
And I remember he talked to the media that Friday
and he says, I understand, I understand with my with
my injury history, but he basically say, I guarantee that
there's nothing to worry about. And so far we've already
been four games with him and he's proven that that's.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
So that's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
And obviously now with all the injuries to the wide
receiver group, obviously you're going to see McCaffrey. In a
normal situation when you have all your older guys, Kittle,
Jennings healthy, everybody in there. He's usually always impats the
games on on on the ground and on the air,
but especially in this situation with with guys the wide

(07:53):
receivers injured, not everybody on the field. He's been leading
the team with with receptions that the last couple of games.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, he becomes a huge target.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
While that we're looking at the offense, I want to
talk about Ricky Pearson. He had an amazing game he did.
He is dealing with a bit of an injury going
into this Week five game, but he had that amazing
one handed catch, he was involved in that trick lateral play.
Just how important is his development to this offense, especially
stepping up as that wide receiver one I.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Think it's one of those plays, one of those moves
in the draft where there was a lot of questions
last year when he got picked first on the first round,
like it didn't seem like it was a necessity for
the team at the point at that specific time. Then unfortunately,
the thing off the field that happened to him that
sidelined him for basically the whole season. This is technically
his rookie year, to put it in a sense, right,

(08:44):
is the first year that he's able to have a
full up season that he's able to come in and God,
what a great player he is, not only because of
how I mean you know it better than than that
you see them more often, but he's a great person.
He works hard and done just the raw talent that
he shows like every single game.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
That's why it's so frustrating.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
To see him no finished games, especially with something like
this that it's a it's a knee or that it's
not necessarily like a full injury, but it's just like
lagging in there and then doesn't allow you to do
perform and it doesn't put you like at a place
that you want to be. But the fact that night
you just have him and the first he shows you
how good the scouting team to pick players.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
They don't hit.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Obviously they don't hit every single one of them, but
they hit more than they missed.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
No one does.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
But they they hit, they hit the jack be with
with this one that least from what he's shown. I
mean you saw again like that picking that one Handy catches,
like how he returns to the ball where he sees it, well,
he knows where it is that he makes the play
for it. We had the four and two last last week.
There was a point that he had to show and
he showed up for it. So I think for the
team to have him, it's it's it's amazing and then

(09:50):
just shows you how how good of work they do
in the draft.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, definitely. And I like the fact that he's like
translating everything we saw in during during training camp, because
remember when we were we had these episodes like they
didn't training can we always say, oh, I like how
Ricky Piersol is doing, Like he's catching everything in practice
and now he's translating that into into the regular system.
So so that I like that consistency from from Ricky

(10:15):
Piersoll and and in that way, It's also frustrating because
with all the injuries because I've been I've been thinking
like since the systems started, oh man, when we get
like Brandon that you're back, and then now you have
Reyki Pearsal developing nicely. You have all these guys Jawan Jennis,
also the Marcus Robinson.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I mean, the wide receiver group looks pretty good.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
But the problem is that the injuries right now that
they haven't been In fact, Cash has said, I think
we haven't had a practice where we have like everybody
out there. But thinking in a big picture, like for
the future, you like what you see on the forty
nine ers wide receiver group.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Again, it makes you more optimistic. It's speak five and
we still haven't seen the full team all together. We
still haven't seen all the pieces be put together. So
it gives you something to look for later down the season.
Letting those players get the rest they need. This short
week could be a good thing. That they have a
quick practice, they play the game, and then they have
a weekend of rest and now they're more rested going

(11:13):
into week six. So you have to think big picture
when it comes to a lot of these injuries and
optimism for the team. Now let's shift over to the
defensive side. I want to talk about Fred Warner, the
leader of the defense. He actually did hit a huge
milestone on Sunday, and I need to give him his props.
Just how much of an impact does he have on
this defense, not only being a speaker and leading the
defense with how he talks and the way he brings

(11:36):
the team together, but just his his force on the field.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I mean, I think it's it's a consensus that the
faithful likes Fred for Emiria reasons too. Like, I mean,
there's many reasons to like Fred Warner, but I feel
like it's one of those things. Like I think at
this point there's always that comparison with Patrick Willis, right,
because Padrick Willis is who he is, Yes, But I
don't think they realize, like because you have that like
kind of like in the back of your head, you

(12:01):
don't realize, like Fred has broken a record with a
lot of records by Patrick Willis, and he's still really young,
Like Fred still has a lot of career in front
of him. So I think that when everything's said and done,
you're going to realize that we're probably looking at the
best linebacker that has ever existed period. Obviously, you know,
he needs to continue to perform the he has to

(12:23):
have the luck of stay healthy and all these things
that usually don't.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Accompliment because that's what didn't help Pass exactly to retire earlier.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Right, Yeah, health.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Issues, but it's also the way he played the game
rights one.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Sometimes one thing goes with the other.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
But that's exactly what I'm saying, Like I feel like
at this point, like you see him perform the in
and out, like you have games like this one where
you probably want him to get you know, got another
form of recovery, or maybe you're actually criticizing because he
didn't intercept the two balls that were close to him.
But the reality is that every single thing that Fred
does in and out every single day, and again, when
everything's said and done, you're gonna be like, dude, we

(12:58):
have probably one of the best players of this game
in the NFL that has ever existed. And that's to me,
it's that very exciting, especially now that we're still in
like the month of Hispanic Hispanic heritage, because he represents Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
It's awesome to see him like with that Mexican flag
on the back of the and also the flat round
panamani and yeah also sometimes so it's amazing. Yeah, Fred
Warner is an amazing player. I mean in terms of leadership,
what he brings to the table on the field. I mean,
he's a great leader. He's very smart. What impressed me
the most about Fred Warner was during his rookie year.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I remember in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Immediately the team had the confidence in him to put
the green dot behind his helmet, which means he needs
like to make to make the cause. He's like the
quarterback of the defense. And to give that responsibility to
a rookie, I mean that speaks for itself. Yeah, and
I remember that like his very first game, he forced
a fumble against the Vikings. So you immediately sawad even

(13:59):
from his rookie year, that you had a very special
player in Fred Warner.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Shows just how disciplined he is, not only to be
able to make those calls, but to make those reads
on the field. His eyes are very disciplined. He doesn't
get tricked up by the offense too often. So it's
really fun to see him work. Like you said, one
of probably the best linebackers of all time. I'm excited
to see how this season keeps going. Obviously, we completely
pray that Lucky is on his side, that he's completely healthy,
because I just love watching Fred Warner on the defense. Now,

(14:26):
we talked about it a little bit at the beginning
of the podcast. Mistakes were a factor in this game.
Those two interceptions really swung the momentum for Brock party.
But how do you think he bounced back from those?
Like we said in that fourth quarter where you're starting
to see some steam pick up by the offense, how
do you answer the call after some mistakes are made.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'm actually never worried about Brock even when he throws
that pick, because again, he takes responsibility. And sometimes he
has the difference with Breck Purty and his interceptions. And
I always said this is that Brock makes an interception
because he forces the ball because he thinks he can
do it. He's used to doing it. He doesn't throw
a pick because he us doesn't see a player. He
just thinks that he can. Is like, I don't care

(15:06):
that you were there, I'm still gonna.

Speaker 8 (15:07):
Throw it over you.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
So it's like, yeah, sometimes Brock like kind of like
swings out like sings it a little too much. But
we saw it like the second interception, because the first
one it's kind of like I always hate to put
those ones on the quarterback because at the end of
the day, it's kind of like mixed. Like and we
mentioned it, I actually think that that pass was not
for Christian McCaffrey. When we see the play developments, obviously
we have a very good buy because we're we're on.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
The top of the stadium.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
That play gets broken, Brock stends it a little bit,
and you have Joan Jennings making a crossing route all
the way on the back, and to me, it gave
me the feeling that Brocks saw him because he was
getting separation and he tried to go for him. But
then Christian rerouted himself and he turns around and sees
the ball and he thought he was coming this his way,
and he actually reached for it and going up for it.

(15:51):
And I was like, I think that pass wasn't for you.
Then you kind of just made it for the defense.
But those things happen, right like again, like those does
some mistake that happens. It's a game where sometimes lucky
is not on your side. Then the second pick he does,
he does see the linebacker, but he first Linemaker makes
a great play on it because he pinches back and
he knows that Brock makes that throw over the medal usually.
But then Brock did three more plays exact like that

(16:13):
over the same like backers. He was like, well, I
missed that one, but then I'm gonna get you, and
then he gets him. So to me that I know
what Brock. What worries me about Brock and especially this
game when you talk about mistakes there, I feel that
there was no many mistakes in the sense that he
was mistakes that he was doing and that's how the
game went. I think the limitation on his foot made
a big impact because sometimes when the defensive line faces fronts

(16:35):
like this one that put a lot of pressure in you,
that come on you. Brock is very good at extending
the play, getting out of the pocket, finding another way
or just runs it, and I feel because he has
a stortnage on the foot, he could not do it.
So even when he felt it was like crunching on
him whatever, he rather took the sack or or just
threw it away or kind of forced a pass because
he knew he couldn't take those yards in front of

(16:55):
him because usually you just take off running. So I
never I'm not worry about him because against it's not
about a bouncing back. I saying that Brock at one
hundred percent is a whole different player.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, definitely. I think Brock Purty is going to be fine.
No quarterback in the NFL, even the best of the
best is are perfect. They're going to have their their
games where.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
The Islamar Jackson.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah yeah, even even Joshua Allend on those playoff games
my home.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
So all the guys make make mistakes, even even the.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Best quarterbacks like they the top three, whatever you want
to call them. But bery I think it's going to
be fine. He just needs to get healthy, have have
a normal week of practice because I think that's that's
key to this whole situation. Because remember in the in
the game before before before the Cardinals, the week before
the Cardinals game, he didn't practice, he didn't have at
all full practice. Wednesday was limited, Thursday limited, Friday limited.

(17:44):
And then this this past week before the game against
the uh the Jaguars kind of the similar situation. Limited
on Wednesday, limited on Thursday, then Friday he was full,
full participant, full participant in practice. But you know, you
guys know that that that Friday is usually just a walkthrough.
So I think that has to do that impacts how

(18:05):
you do in the in the game because you're not
uh having those reps with your wide receivers or also
speaking of the wid receiver, like I said earlier, you
don't have everybody on the field, so or they're limited
to Yeah, so all that has to we we have
to take that into into account.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, and when it comes to his performance on Sunday,
it's sort of the natural up and down of a
quarterback play, like you guys had mentioned in Carlos to
your point, the situation is also very complex. Cash a
handset on us call on Monday that, yeah, it might
be a little bit of the injury, but it also
might be just be the natural flow of the game.
What his like preparation was like, he's just like you said,
during practice, not being able to get a full week.

(18:43):
So the situation was very complex and there are just
a lot of factors that played into the unfortunate loss. Now,
injuries continue to be a storyline. We mentioned Brock a
little bit. It was pretty's tow Pearcell's knee, Juan's ribs
with a short turnaround before Thursday. How concerned should fans
be about this team's health?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Well, I mean, for in general, I don't A lot
of these are like just like nagging things that are
probably you know, be able to be sorted out on
the long term, hopefully, because none of them really are
like ligamin damage or joint damage or bone damage, like
they're just you know, sorting is basically right. Like again
just to people who probably don't play football or never

(19:22):
play football in their life, these guys, is like literally
having a truck hit you, like you're imagine being just
going full speed running at something and then you have
a truck that comes and cleans you over like you're
not getting old, You're not getting up from that head
like nothing ever happened, like you're still gonna feel it.
And a lot of those things are just you know,
being hit on the wrong place at the wrong time,

(19:43):
and it doesn't fully injury. There's not a full injury,
but it makes you feel it and then it limits
you because you're not comfortable, right, you have that like
soreness or something that doesn't allow you to take off
because you use feel it.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
So in a short week.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Having those is concerning because the chances of you feeling
better by Thursday to do it again are very slim, right,
especially depending on how sorry you are. But if it's soreness,
like you did not practice and you feel it, the
chance of you making it to Thursday are very slim.
So that's a problem.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
Now.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
The problem also is that it's a divisional game, it's
an important game, it's a way, so those things kind
of pile up on it to be concerned. Then it
all depends on how the team looks, because the other
thing that could happen, because this is the NFL and
anything can happen. After you come a game like that, right,
like with the pressures, with how the defense kind of
dominated you, how they were established a run game. You're

(20:36):
gonna face the game against a divisional opponent, but since
you're just jaded from what just happened to you, you
might come lights out. So that's a chance that can happen,
or you just don't recover and then you accumulate that
second loss.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
So you don't know what exactly you're going to get.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
But there's always a chance that a lot of the
things that you did not do right, especially in the
in the game that you were able to power through
and still make it to the last drive with a chance,
there's things that are going to look better, there's things
that you're going to improve, and you're not gonna let
that happen again. So it's just a matter of how
available players are and how they are at the game,
and especially for example, like one of the biggest questions

(21:12):
like is Brock gonna start Maxican to start, because Mac
at one hundred percent is definitely better than Brock at
not one hundred percent. Obviously, the idea scenario is having
Broke at one hundred percent. But if you can have
Mac again and here's one hundred percent, then you're already
at a plus and and that's one of the things
that that's kind of exciting, especially with the difference play
in the way it is, if they can limit the

(21:32):
offense from the rams, which probably the hard like the
most like strong point, I think there's not that much
concern until the games play. I Mean, it's one of
those things like I'm not concerned.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
I just need to play the game.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I need to play the game and see see how
it goes. Like I'm not gonna worry about what's out
of my control. I know I can come. I know
it's a divisional play, divisional team, a divisional opponent. I'm
gonna come lights out. I'm gonna go at them, because
that's that wins actually a little more important than other wins.
So I would just I would just say, I just
need to wait for the game.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, it seems like Tuesday's practice is going to be
very telling for what the status is of this team
and its health. So what are you looking for in
today's practice the time of recording.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, basically, I'm gonna look for the players that appear
on that report. We could remember they have that report
also on Monday. They don't practice on Monday. But it's
an estimation of what practice would have looked like if
they had a practical, an actual practice. And obviously, like
Carlos was saying, you have rock Perty obviously on the
report with the with the toe, the soaring and he's

(22:31):
told what he said to Kyle Shanahan over the phone.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
He said he spoke to him Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
He told him, oh, I still to feel my toe,
still starting to feel a little bit sore, And the
same thing happened Monday morning. So the good thing that
I saw on that Monday report is that if they
had a practice, Mac Jones would have been a full participant.
So that's a really good thing, and that's key in
this game because obviously we saw how he performed on

(22:58):
those two games where where he had to come in
as the starting quarterback and and that that's that was
the issue before the game against the Jaguars, that both
quarterbacks were questionable because a lot of people say maybe
they could have put make johnsonid but but remember on Friday,
Mac Johnes was questionable and brock Perty was feeling a
little a little better.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
So that was the issue before the Jaguars game.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Now, if you have Mac Johnson at least at one
hundred percent, uh, you have like faith in him, the
confidence in mc johns uh to have him be started
against against the Rams, and obviously you have like that
kind of because on the flip side, the good thing
about this uh uh, this these short weeks, then you
have the week enough so Bradbury is gonna get yesterday

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is to to get one percent maybe for the game
against the Bucanier.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
So that that's the good thing.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
But so that's what I'm gonna be looking for on
Tuesday's practice and also what happens with Jawan Jennings, what
happens with Rickyrikrisol. In fact, also Michael Williams. They put
him like limited if they had a practice on Monday,
but they added an oblique issue that now now it
says Michael Williams limited risk and oblique. So I'm gonna

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be looking out for also for Michael Williams because definitely
not now, but the will Las nick Bosa for the year.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Uh, the the defensive line is like all the old
help it can get.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, a lot to look for in this one day
of practice. All the coverage will be on forty nine
ers dot com in both English and Spanish, so we've
got you covered today now. Another thing Kyle acknowledged in
his Monday call after the game is that the Niners
are averaging just about three point three yards per carry.
That's not that's uncharacteristic for this team, especially the run game.
He mentioned that they haven't had that big explosion of

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a play. They haven't had anyone really take off. So
what do you think needs to click for them to
get explosive in the run game?

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Again, Well, I mean the key to an explosive running game,
it's the offensive line. You could have not a super
talented running back, but if he has a whole, he's
gonna he's gonna explode it. Right, We're seen it in
the past. And obviously, like because I used to talk
about this, this is a lot one of the reasons and
you hate to do comparisons, but to me, it's kind
of like the stole worth of why things work. When

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you see how the Philadelphia Egles from last year, those
guys on the offensive line literally wear a wall, whether
it was for jailing her to take whatever time he
wants to find his progressions. And he has a great
group of core receivers and Socknborgley was able to rack
up two thousand yards from line of scrimmage running because
he literally had an avenue every single time that he
was playing, like he had no problem just walking through
like he will walk through that through that scrimmish line.

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So I think this it's a very it's a very
young offensive line because the truth is that dominic puny
and now that Colin Colby's starting a left card that
needs to click.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
But you need to be able to help Christian, and
I mean.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Cash has been very good in the past establishing the
game the run and being able to have those those
plays where he asked a lot. We also know that
usually for his offensive linemen, he tried to find them
that are very, very athletic, specifically because he likes them
to go out and make a run and make a
block and be able and be able to help the
running the running back. So in this case, I feel
that they just need to tighten it up. I feel

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like one of the one of the things that is
like a room of improvement, not because they don't wrong
is obviously, if they had played horribly, you don't win
three games. But in that specific scenario, I feel they
need to tighten it up. There there has to be
a little more help from the offensive line. So you
can find that spot for Christian, for Brian Robinson, because
you have two really talented backs and you need to
you need to make that little gap. Like and the

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advantage of this offensive line has like they don't have
to make an avenue right Like, we don't ask it.
We're not asking for those two thousand yards from Zacon
Park last year. You don't have to have an avenue.
But if you have like that little gap, you can
just open the water a little bit for them, it
will be really good. And I feel that that's the
only thing that's it has been missing because only I
think it's a mixture between that and obviously like most

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defenses are actually you know, expecting Christian McCaffrey, so they
also come and clog those lines a little more, which
then opens the game for you. But there has to
be a point where it's like, well, if we're clogging
this line and they're always finding this second level throw
like behind the linebackers, at some point we also need
to address it. Then that's where you can find Christian.
So I think it's just a matter of time of
like working on it and then again like the offensive

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line kind of like putting their pants on and being
like we need to help this, and once they on
a couple of explosive plays, I think the more will become.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
And you need to get also kittled back. I think
Kittle is important part of the now. Yeah, if we
say like Fred Werner is a hard and soul on
the difference, I think Kittle is a hard and soul
on the offensive side of the ball. Because sometimes you
see even taken on on on on defensive linemen because
the way Kittle blocks, there's there's no other tight end
in the in the league that that that blocks like Kittle.

(27:46):
So I think having kittled back obviously he's still on
ir but we'll see if the forty nine Ers can
have him back for maybe I don't know, maybe the
game against the Buccaneers. But but having kitdled back I
think will help a lot the running game.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, if we were to look at the other side
of the line of scrimmage. Defensively, Jacksonville's quick passing really
limited the forty nine ers pass rush. What did you
see from that front seven and how can they adjust
moving forward?

Speaker 3 (28:12):
I feel like Robert Salen needs to find a way
to be a little more creative on how he faces
those fronts because the reality is that a lot of
people might look at Nick bow and realized and we again,
like I talked to this, because it was a lot
of a lot. Nick Bosa, when you go look at
his stats, probably doesn't have the numbers of sacks like
a T. J. Watt or a Miles Garrett, but the

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amount of pressure he puts on a quarterback helps the
rest of the defense. That's what makes the other quarterbacks
made mistakes. That's how we get interceptions. Sometimes they don't
even interceptions, but he just rushes it out and they
make the wrong throw or they they're not accurate with it.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
They work as a unit.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
So not having Nick is a huge blow and we
notice it on this game. And I felt like this
first game was kind of going to be like that
because it's the first game you're without Nick, and you
kind of like don't see it until you see it.
So now that you saw it, now that you know this, well,
I'm putting pressure like this because this is how I
put pressure when he was in the field. I realized
I can't do that. Now it's going to be a
little more creative. We also didn't see a lot of

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blitzes from the safeties. We didn't see a lot of
blitzes from the corners, which is something that Sala usually does.
In this particular game between you couldn't do it and
there was no positions to do it. I feel we'll
see a lot more of That will also open the
spot for one of the younger players, made Brice Hot,
that is playing lights out to actually be able to
and to help with that. So there has to be

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a more of on this scheme, like now you have
to find a way to kind of like mask a
little bit of the fire you're missing somebody like Nick,
but the same like, I feel that even with that,
I feel the defense had a lot of three and
ounce whenever they were able to put pressure, whether it
was just like with pushing the offensive lineman into Trevor
Lawrence's face, all those things helped out and in need

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gave the Niners, even with the mistakes, a position for
them to be almost winning the game because the only laps,
the only real laps the defense had was right after
that fumble that run. I feel that was the one
where it was like where were you guys. The rest
of the rest of the game, I feel that they
actually hold pretty well and then they keep giving the
offense chances, Like there was even that play that they

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stopped them and that doesn't brought throws the second interception,
like literally the deference had just got the ball back
in a really good position, then that's that's when that happened.
So I feel in that sense, I'm not so worry
about the defense, and I feel like one to me
is one of the keys for the games against the Rams.
Defense can play how they've been playing, these Rams are
going to struggle with it, and especially because I feel

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like as much as you don't put as much pressure
Matthew Stafford, the fact that it's hard for the Rams
to establish a run game with how good the secondary
has been, how good they are covering, and even the
help from the linebackers. Because the Winters having a fantastic season.
I mean, I could not role out like you have
the Winters on a one on one. We put in
the CoA and he actually shuts him down. So that's
the one thing that I look forward for Thursday.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, because the defense. Obviously, you cannot replace
a guy like Nick Bosa, we know that. But the
good thing is that we have Robert Sala as a
defensive coordinator and he already had experience back in back
in twenty twenty when he lost Nick Bosa, also very
very early in the season. It was a Week two

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against the Jets that year, he lost Nick Bosa for
the year, and he was able to still keep the
forty Niners defense the top ten.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
In the league.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
I remember a guy like Hyder that year had like
eight point five sacks or something like that. So I
think has the has the season goes, it's not gonna
take that long.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
I don't know if he's gonna be against.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
The Rams because obviously we're in a short week and
the Rams are a very good offense, so it's gonna
be a big challenge. But I think it's not gonna
take too long before Robert Sala figure something out with
the defense, get get more creative, maybe with the with
the blitzes. Remember in the pre season we saw a
lot of Chase Lucas he sent them on those Sharka blitzers.

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So I think in Robert Sala, you have a great
defensive mind. So I think he's gonna figure it out.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
We talked a lot about how those death players really
stepped up. I think that's been the name of the
game for the Niners through these first four weeks of
the season. But some guys really impressed, like Darell Lutor Junior,
for Ernardo Green sam O, for Nick Bosa to start,
who really impressed you among some of those depth pieces
in this game.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
If I had to pick one, I don't know. It's
hard because I feel like it's been Like you said,
it's a collective.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Effort on how I would say the real looter.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Because I don't think I don't think his presence was
felt like when you when you lose one of your
starting corners, especially you know you have your two shot
down corners, then you have then you have Nickel.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
When when you.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Lose your one of the starting corners and the next
one steps up, if he doesn't step up to the plate.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
That could be pretty clear.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
It's very obvious because you know you can finish like
some long plays, they can get some like big big
chunks of yards. And I feel the real loud like
didn't give up that like at all, Like it was
not it was not a concept like it was nothing
that the defense really felt like he lost a step
on it. So yeah, I think that in that sense,
coming from a starter, like a true starter, that would

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be the most important one because I think again, like
the one on the defense, on the on the defensive line,
I think the guys kind of did what they could,
but they need a little more chemistry. They need to
kind of figure out how things are like kind of
going out that Nick isn't there and not not necessarily
their fault.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Again, like I.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Feel like Selah has a very sad way of doing things,
and he can get created. He actually progresses. He's one
of the best defensive coordinators in the league. But he
kind of like imitated a little bit what he already
had and that was not necessarily working. But yeah, I
would say that the Real did a very good job,
Like he shut down most of most of the players,
Like that was the passing. It was not a non

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factor for for Jacksonville. I would say like they did
because to me, the biggest play that they got was
not even a catch. The referee is that he was
a catch, but I don't think it was a catch.
So that was the biggest That was literally the biggest
one in the whole game. And the rest they were
they were pretty pretty sad.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
And even like the upton Stout, I n t they
threw the flag and that one and that was a
big play. I mean, I've been really impressed with the
rookies in general, like Upton Stout single and then other
guys like you mentioned the Real lad like and on
the dead I'll go also with the with the offense.
I know these past games have been tough for Colby,

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for Connor Colby, but I remember in that game it
was against the Saints when he fill in for Ben Barge.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
He did a really good good job.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
And let's remember he's still a rookie and he's in
a tough situation because the last two games also he's
been questionably questionable with that growing injury, so he hasn't
been one hundred percent. But I believe a lot in
in Connor Colby. I watched him during training cam and
I like what I have seen from from him. These

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past games have been rough in general for the whole
offensive line, but I believe a lot in what he
has in the potential that I see from from counter Colby.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, we're liking what we're seeing now. Theursday night football
in Los Angeles against the Rams for Week five. It's
a big one. You guys are second divisional game for
the Rams. It's going to be their first divisional game
this season. What are some of the biggest keys in
this game?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
The most important one is not having Matthew Stafford Waite
there and forever like six seven seconds and figure out
who's gonna throw, because then he's going to destroy you.
So there has to be a way to put pressure quick.
There has to be a way too to make him
feel uncomfortable because as good as Matthew Stafford is, and
he's always been, again, I think it's another player that
at some point might be in the question for being

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a Hall of Famer. He makes he tends to make
mistakes when when when the things collapse, because because he
starts getting frustrated, right, so you need to make you
need to make him frustrated.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Luckily for them, they don't.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
They haven't been able to establish a huge running game,
even though Karen Williams is very good running the ball.
So you need to have a lot of pressure from
the defensive line or at least be able to make
yourself felt. So if you can do that, then you
can limit them. And I feel that the biggest takeaway
from the game because that's when they can really get you.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
They can get you again.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Sean McBay knows Kyle Shanahan in and I like this
is two guys that like literally grew up together basically,
so you need to be able to make them feel
uncomfortable not complete an offense. And we saw it last year.
Last year we literally got to the same game in
a very similar situation back then. The difference was that
they were at the worst situation in the in the
injury report. And funny enough that Marcus Robinson is the

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one that's destroying us because same thing as you we
just mentioned right like, they had the same mentality of
the next man up, and they were able to execute
and we couldn't. It was that that was a very
ugly game. But you have to put you have to
be able to limit their their their chances offense, none
of them. Not let them have those long drives, so
then they can deplete your defense. But I have trust

(36:56):
in the defense. I think the defense that we do
a very good job along That is probably their biggest
test so far because they're gonna find it more like
in tune and like oil machine in an offense and
then on on on offense capitalized because again, like this,
this is a good RAMS defense. But ever since Aaron
Donald left, it's a little different. There's there's some there's

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some there's some space, there's some opportunities that you can
take care of. Fortunately, unfortunately right now we don't have
all the pieces healthy, or at least it doesn't sound
like it, because that's that's a big impact. So hopefully
either they'll be back or at least we'll find a
way to how to do it. And I think on
the offense only defensive part, if you can limit those
drop passes, it's a big difference. Like I think that

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was one of those things, like it was that game.
You had that one game and like I mentioned it,
two meet's better to have that game either in the NFL,
it is two ways to have that game. You either
have it really early in the season and you're like,
all right, I got out of my system. We didn't
like this, we played horrible and or we did these
things very wrong, and now we move forward and we construct.

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Or when you have everything said and done and it's like,
well like kind of like what happened to us with
that game against the Ravens in twenty three. I mean
it was the Ravens. It was a very competitive team.
It was almost at the end of the season, you
were qualified to the playoffs. Anyway, like it's not a
big deal. You can you know, readset and move forward.
So I think this game was a perfect moment to
reset and I feel the team will at least reset

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it for this next.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yeah, definitely it's gonna be a challenge because actually the
Rams are are are very good and the forty nine
ers are not a full strength with all the injuries.
But I think that there's ways to to come out
come out of l A with with the win.

Speaker 9 (38:35):
Right.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
First of all, I agree with Carlos what you were
saying about applying pressure, find a way to get to
match of Stafford, because then it's gonna be if you're
not able to do that, then Pa is playing really well,
and who's gonna cover Adams and then the Adams well,
but especially the way he's playing is amazing, So you

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have to find a way to get to matches Stafford
to to obviously break that connection. And and also on
the on the defensive side of the ball, aside from that,
not not that different side of the offensive side of
the ball, you have to establish the run because the Rams,
the Rams pass rush is very good. So if you're

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not able to establish the run, which that that that
has been the issue these first four games, is going
to be a long day against that Rams pass rush.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Zeus Carlos. A busy week ahead. Practice today on Tuesday,
travel on Wednesday, game on Thursday. Guys, Thank you so
much for joining me to unpack everything that happened on
Sunday as we look ahead to Week five Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Thanks guys nice, Always have pleasure.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Though the forty nine Ers came up short in Week four,
I caught up with Titan Luke Farrell before the game
to hear his thoughts on facing his former team and
really embracing a bigger role this season. Here's that pregame conversation.
What's up, faithful? This is your forty nine Ers team
reporter Brionn Janelle sitting with tight end Luke Farrell right
before the Jaguars matchup in Week four. Luke, congrats on

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the first three wins of the season and thanks for
joining me today.

Speaker 8 (40:05):
Thank you, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Now, this game should be a fun one for you
because this is your first season playing with the forty
nine Ers after starting your career in Jacksonville. What's it
like preparing to face your former team.

Speaker 10 (40:17):
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. There's gonna be a lot of
familiar faces out there. You know, see a lot of
guys on tape that I played against in practice every day.
So it'll be fun and really interesting to have that experience.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, definitely. You signed with the forty nine ers this
off season. Let's go back to that moment for a bit.
What drew you to this team and what has the
transition been like coming over to the West Coast.

Speaker 8 (40:40):
Yeah, part of it.

Speaker 10 (40:40):
I mean they were eager to have me. I mean
they were coming after me pretty early in the process,
right when it opened up. And I mean it's hard
to be mad about playing an offense like this. I
mean for our organization that I'd only heard good things
about from everybody that had been here and that I
had run into, and then I played with him and
came here after, so kind of all that put together

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kind of made it an easy decision for me.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Amazing. Yeah, you come over with Mac Jones, who's been
a big part of this offense for these past two games.
Tell me about the dynamic between you two and what
it's like having him with you here in the Bay.

Speaker 11 (41:16):
It's been great.

Speaker 10 (41:17):
I mean it's been great to see him, you know,
be able to step up and get that opportunity ball out.

Speaker 8 (41:22):
So's it's awesome.

Speaker 10 (41:23):
I got to know him well last year and kind
of continue that this year, and he's just you know,
an awesome guy to have in the locker room. He's
super positive, like having fun, and then when it's time
to lock in, he's gonna, you know, he's gonna do
his thing.

Speaker 11 (41:36):
So it's it's great.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, it seems like you two are both such a
perfect fit for this locker room here in the Bay Area,
and it's been so fun watching you guys ball out
in these past three games. Now, offensive line coach Chris
Forrester has praised you as one of the best blocking
tight ends that he's ever seen. How much pride do
you take in that, especially coming from an established O
line coach?

Speaker 10 (41:57):
A ton, I mean, I hadn't heard him say that,
but it means a lot. I mean, the ultimate compliment
I could get is from an offensive lineman or an
O line coach or you know, an opposing D line.
So that's like incredible, and I take a ton of
pride in that. I mean, it's what I've hung my
hat on my career and what kind of got me.

Speaker 11 (42:16):
To this point.

Speaker 10 (42:16):
So it's it's something I'm going to continue to, you know,
take a ton of pride in.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, as we look more at that tight end group
with George Kittles sidelined, you've had the chance to step up.
How have you approached that challenge and what has it
been like sharing reps with guys like Jake Tanjes and
Braden Willis.

Speaker 9 (42:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (42:32):
I mean that's just part of it. You know, it's
going to happen. It happened kind of to us last
year with Evan Ingram, and it's similar. Just especially as
a tight end, you've got to be, you know, malleable.
You've got to be able to fit in wherever they
need you and not hesitate. And I think that's what's
been awesome about our unit this year is we haven't hesitated.
I mean you've seen you've seen Jake step up and
just kind of the stuff, the plays he's been able

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to make, you know, after not getting that opportunity and
then just as soon as it's ended him, he just
didn't didn't blink. And as an unit, I think that's,
you know, kind of something we've been really proud of
the first three games.

Speaker 12 (43:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I was looking a lot at your career leading up
to this interview, and it seems like since your pro
day at Ohio State, people have been asking about flexing
your receiving abilities on top of your elite play as
a blocker. You scored your first touchdown with San Francisco
in Week two. How special was that moment for you?

Speaker 10 (43:22):
Very I mean it was a long time coming, you know,
something you always think about. So to have that happen
and be able to you know, spike the ball after was.

Speaker 11 (43:30):
Was pretty great.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, tell me more, like about the maybe comments you
got from family, friends, former coaches as they reflected on
that moment for you.

Speaker 11 (43:38):
Just super happy for me.

Speaker 10 (43:39):
I have a really great, you know, support system around
in my family, close friends that my mom was immediately
furious because they weren't there in person, they were at
home watching, but no, they were. They were so happy
and just proud and and you know, it's it's incredible
to you know, be in a position to make them
proud and and you know see that come true and

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all that, and so it's it was great.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, I can only imagine. Now, let's talk Jaguars. Having
spent four seasons in Jacksonville. I know a lot has
changed this off season, but what stands out to you
about that defense and what kind of a challenge do
they present this week?

Speaker 11 (44:16):
I think they played really hard.

Speaker 10 (44:18):
I mean, Josh Allen, is you know, he's super high motor,
he's great leader on that defense, and he's gonna, you know,
come after you every play. And I think the rest
of the team follows that. You know, Fouryer is the
same way. He kind of commands the rest of them,
and they play aggressive and they come off the ball,
and that's just uh yeah, something they do really well.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Now, as the team is preparing, do you find yourself
sharing little insights from your time there with your teammates
this week of any moments like that come up at all?

Speaker 10 (44:48):
Uh here and there. I Mean the coaches kind of
handle it for the most part, but if there's they
got a question on specific like how a guy likes
to play, I can, you know, give a little two
cents there when when I can. But but yeah, I
think we're all pretty pretty prepared for it.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, that should be fun. Now we're three weeks into
this season now, and the immediate reaction to each win
has been that this team is resilient, that this team
is gritty. I talked to Kyle Uschek after last week's game.
He said that the offense is still piecing things together,
which is exciting. Tell me your thoughts on the state
of the offense and how you guys are looking to
show up this Sunday.

Speaker 10 (45:21):
Yeah, resiliency is kind of the perfect word for it,
and that's exactly what you need, especially early on in
the season. You know it's not going to be perfect.
You know you're not gonna have everything, you know, running smoothly.
There's gonna be bumped since and you know, you know,
issues that come up. So be able to like endure
and bounce back after after a negative and just keep
pushing is the most important thing at this time. So

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I think if we keep carrying that, we're going to.

Speaker 11 (45:44):
Be just fine.

Speaker 10 (45:45):
I mean being able to you know, have the attitude
to to win those games and pull pull those out.

Speaker 11 (45:50):
It's it's only going to help us in the long run.

Speaker 13 (45:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
On that point of you know, the team still piecing
things together. What's been the main focus this week as
you look ahead to Jacksonville this Sunday?

Speaker 10 (46:02):
Kind of what I mean, what it has been every
week every week this far is just execution, you know,
being top on top of our stuff were're supposed to
be when they're supposed to be there and then and
then at that point, you know you were going to
come off the ball and play hard. So you know
the execution part is is the biggest one.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Now, let's take you inside the action. Linebacker Fred Warner
was miked up for the week for a matchup. Let's
take a look and listen to everything he brought to
the fields.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
That white at home, that white at home.

Speaker 8 (46:29):
All right, Just so y'all know I'm monked up today.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
If you want to be on TV, just hang with me,
all right, you want to be on TV, just hang
with me.

Speaker 7 (47:01):
Oh yeah, no, boys at home.

Speaker 14 (47:07):
Let's go come on.

Speaker 15 (47:18):
That's what that's the world.

Speaker 7 (47:23):
Let me see that.

Speaker 9 (47:29):
Let's go up.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
Hey, brother's the messa is gonna be the same every week.

Speaker 9 (47:35):
Man.

Speaker 6 (47:36):
We lead the way all the way and understand every
single week. Man, we pray for these big moments. Play
a style, run ahead, run ahead. They need us every
freaking play. All right, let's give it to the way.
Give me exactly what they want. Best three, let's go fresh.

Speaker 8 (47:54):
I got it.

Speaker 9 (47:59):
Yeah, And of the.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
Hey, lot lots of communicating today, huh. So everybody is
hanging with me, taking one step at a time, one
snap at the time, and let's stack had a ball
on your mind.

Speaker 16 (48:23):
It's gonna come to dight and so here comes the
forty nine Ers offense and party rolls.

Speaker 13 (48:27):
Left, throws out the flat, falls down, gets up first down,
gets a block from Jennings across midfield. What a play
by us check jeeze.

Speaker 6 (48:37):
Nothing like an explosive to start the game with a.

Speaker 13 (48:39):
Full back to the flat prety under center.

Speaker 16 (48:41):
He takes the snap, rolls play action, now floats it
right Luke Ferrell, he makes the catch first down.

Speaker 9 (48:46):
Remand's game.

Speaker 6 (48:49):
Look the rel Hey, we need all living, we need
all living. Huh, y'all stay with me all day, y'all
stay with me all day. Hey, I act like you're
own the ball, like I got you on the ball.

Speaker 9 (49:05):
That flat.

Speaker 13 (49:07):
Two backs in the game.

Speaker 16 (49:08):
Now once split out to the right, and now ETM
is gonna shift behind Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 13 (49:13):
He's gonna take the shotguns.

Speaker 16 (49:14):
Spin throw it the ETN out of the flat, and
the forty nine Ers then jump on him out near midfield.

Speaker 13 (49:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Is this good?

Speaker 16 (49:22):
Crowd encourages the forty nine Ers defense on the Jags
opening drive, Trevor Lawrence straight dropping play action Waits Waits
wade throw. He patted away it nearly intercepted third down
for the Jaguars.

Speaker 13 (49:34):
Shotgun to Lawrence.

Speaker 16 (49:36):
Good pocket throw over the middle crop by They tied
had strings and it's a weight room play out to
the forty yard line where he is shy of the
line the game.

Speaker 13 (49:46):
Trevor Lawrence is under center. He turns and kid Travis.

Speaker 16 (49:49):
Etn rapped down Bootcottie Bryce in the backfield, bootgotty Bryce.

Speaker 6 (49:56):
No matter what's get him on the ground. Just get
him on the ground. We living on the day, that's see.
I'm putting that day, so I need everybody gets to
the ruck. All right, one play at a time. Man,
everything we.

Speaker 16 (50:10):
Got attached to the left does Lawrence takes the from
out of center trench, gives Etn head down. That are
showing a little pressure. Fred Waner is hoping over the
center and now he's gonna bail out. Four man rush
Shotgunlawrence pulls it.

Speaker 13 (50:22):
Down and throws it over the middle.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
Hey, we got a two minute coming up. We got
a two minute drill coming up. This is three and
out right here, this is it, this is it. We'll
play a time. Man, use your hands and coverage with
the pleas in the ground. All right, work together, Let's go.
Let's commute to Taylor, Honey, we need all elevens in
the rock. We gotta give on team something to get
inspired about. Right here, play play. It's raconal play as five.

(50:46):
Right here, we got his fire up the stadium.

Speaker 16 (50:49):
Trevor Lawrence out of the shotgun, takes the snap and
is not on the same page.

Speaker 9 (50:52):
Part. That's one.

Speaker 8 (50:53):
That's one.

Speaker 9 (50:54):
Let's go two.

Speaker 13 (50:55):
Lawrence in the shotgun. He takes it quick throw out
to Tim Patrick.

Speaker 16 (50:58):
He gets clipped, he gets he gets spun down up
in stout and third and eleven. Under three minutes to
go in this second quarter, and the Niners defense get
off the field.

Speaker 13 (51:09):
Trevor Lawrence is in the shotgun.

Speaker 16 (51:11):
Four man rush Lawrence straight back drop time patch it
throws check down the way five bred water.

Speaker 6 (51:20):
Whoa they want to find me so bad?

Speaker 8 (51:23):
It'll find me at the right time. No, he'll find
me had the right time.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
God Simon. Anyway, keep playing, keep playing with me right now?
How moneys flych gloves? I had you get these bad
the bad mudo gloves off me.

Speaker 15 (51:37):
Go one, y'all go him on him. He nervous, he nervous,
he nervous. Yo, that's good.

Speaker 13 (51:53):
That's good.

Speaker 14 (51:56):
Whoa We got five seconds from the play clock to
Trevor Lawnce utter center.

Speaker 13 (52:02):
Does he know it? One zero?

Speaker 16 (52:04):
He did not get it off and flags come in.
There was some movement, so it's either a false starter
or a delay.

Speaker 8 (52:15):
Let's go, y dog, No, don't do.

Speaker 13 (52:22):
Berdie's under center, play action inside pitch. McCaffrey. He makes
the catch, makes a man miss, breaks the tackle, and
McCaffrey is in. Finally one time forty nine ers. They're
going for two.

Speaker 16 (52:38):
They trail seventeen to twelve to try and make it
a three point game. Bourn goes in motion left to right.
Berdie's in the shotgun. McCaffrey now motions out from beside him.
He takes the snap. Bertie looking looking bouncing. Now he's
gonna roll out to his right back pedal in fifteen
backfoot throw end zone. Jettigs caught at, caught at.

Speaker 13 (52:58):
He converts ball, says it the thirty two quick snaps.

Speaker 16 (53:03):
Dropping back out of the shotgun, Lawrence pumps pressure throws.

Speaker 13 (53:06):
Check popped out. Fred Water punched it out.

Speaker 6 (53:10):
Most sports FuMB moves in franchise history.

Speaker 8 (53:13):
You know wan punch one.

Speaker 6 (53:15):
Yeah, that ain't too bad right now, we playing on asshole.
We just gotta keep going. Huh. We're focusing on what
we can control. That's see one play at a time.
It ain't having all one one at a time, one
at a time.

Speaker 16 (53:26):
Bertie takes the snap, drops back, good pocket over the middle,
high way up there de Marcus Robinson's taped that ball
from danger and there we go.

Speaker 9 (53:34):
There we go, there we go. Make a play.

Speaker 8 (53:37):
It turned up a little.

Speaker 16 (53:38):
He's third down and five shot gun, empty backfield. Bertie
takes pumps pressure, pulls it down. Now extends throws and
what a catch they needed that.

Speaker 13 (53:47):
He's needed that.

Speaker 9 (53:51):
Start dancing.

Speaker 7 (53:55):
Now.

Speaker 16 (53:55):
They set up the tight end screen left, there's Ta
tajs is into space the five. He times heads one
touchdown forty nine ers.

Speaker 6 (54:07):
Hey, he's the moment you dream of right here, he's
the moment.

Speaker 8 (54:10):
You dream off.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
One at a time, one at a time, one at
a time.

Speaker 13 (54:15):
One at a time.

Speaker 7 (54:16):
We need everybody, We need everybody, nope, win, so you around.

Speaker 9 (54:31):
Join your experience. I'm a great you know that.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
A happy for you, bro man, Keep going on, thick
you more. Huh, you got to see too money out there, Yes, sir,
keep going on It's life right here.

Speaker 13 (54:49):
Boy, are we back?

Speaker 6 (54:54):
Were back?

Speaker 1 (55:01):
We are just moments away from Thursday night football. I'm
going to take you inside the locker with me to
hear how the team is getting ready for that Week
five matchup against the Los Angeles Rams.

Speaker 9 (55:10):
I ain't been noo.

Speaker 17 (55:12):
How do you feel about him learning it?

Speaker 8 (55:13):
Anyways?

Speaker 18 (55:14):
I'm you know, it's always good to see people rippling
reppling the tie, so you know, you know, especially those
Georgia boys, you know they g it's always good to
see them in some Alabama gear.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
So what what caught him to to wear it?

Speaker 9 (55:28):
They lost, they got beat.

Speaker 11 (55:30):
He just pledged to do that if they lost.

Speaker 18 (55:32):
Yeah, So usually you know how the Robbers do, like
we you know, we can't bet, like well, we wanna bet,
so we'll tell him like yo, like if y'all lose,
y'all gotta wear you know, our attire and vice versa.
So they lost, so they gotta wear Alabama gear for
the whole day like that.

Speaker 17 (55:51):
How are you feeling about this week? The Rams are
just trying to where the Russian game is in general.

Speaker 18 (55:55):
I'm feeling good about it, and I I just feel
like we're we're on the doorstep to you know, just
really getting the run game popping and uh you know, no,
no better opportunity than this week is just get it
popping off.

Speaker 17 (56:07):
You know, what have you learned about Christian's work at
the Kiss Game and just how he attacks everything.

Speaker 18 (56:14):
He's very consistent, you know, he he shows up to
work there every single day, and.

Speaker 9 (56:19):
You know that's the reason why he's who he is.
It's why he's a great player.

Speaker 18 (56:23):
You know, he's super consistent and you know he's always
into you know, just you know, sharpening his craft. You know,
you know, it's I've just been able to watch him
do that, you know, in the time that I've been here,
and it's you know, it's been good.

Speaker 17 (56:35):
Do you guys have to prepare differently at all considering
you don't know who the quarterback is quite.

Speaker 18 (56:40):
Yeah, Uh nah, I think the preparation stay the same.
Like we just gotta focus on, you know, what's been
installed and how we gotta do our job, you know,
as a team, and you know, regardless of what quarterback
is in the game, you know, we gotta do higher
part in the game.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Short we turned around, what if you noticed so far,
what if he's done differently so.

Speaker 11 (57:03):
Far, it's a fast tempo.

Speaker 19 (57:06):
We're learning third down short yards at the same time
we learn it first and second down. So trying to
just learn to play because especial as I can, especially
going into this week learning the game playing, so just
trying to adapt to it down.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
The short And how are you feeling physically just with
the short Way?

Speaker 9 (57:21):
To me?

Speaker 19 (57:21):
Personally, I feel good. I always make sure to stay
on top of my body to make sure I'm good
each and every week, so I feel healthy and I'm
ready to go Thursday.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
You feel like you're adjusting to the system.

Speaker 20 (57:31):
I mean, each week you're making a play out there.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
So how do you feel like you're going? And I
just think progressive look.

Speaker 8 (57:36):
In the system.

Speaker 19 (57:37):
I feel I'm progressive fast. I feel I'm going out
there and playing confident. I feel like I have to
play with down. Obviously there's looks I'm gonna have to
learn on the fly, but I feel I'm with justin fine.
I feel I need to play more better than what
I have been, even though I have been playing good,
but I feel I pulled myself to a higher standard,
so I want to play for that standard.

Speaker 17 (57:57):
It's one of the first times you're playing against the
older quarterback? Is it sort of a pinch me moment?

Speaker 19 (58:02):
When I wouldn't say a pinch me moment, But I've
been watching him for a long time, so he's been
in the game for a long time. So he's gonna
find ways to.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Pick me out and I'm gonna have to counter that.

Speaker 11 (58:15):
So he's a skilled quarterback and.

Speaker 8 (58:17):
I'm gonna be a skilled dB.

Speaker 11 (58:21):
Thank you, thank you, rock and back.

Speaker 8 (58:23):
We're just trying about the Rams defensive line.

Speaker 21 (58:25):
I mean, probably a pass rushing perspective, but.

Speaker 17 (58:28):
Just the spirit and uh, you know, I guess the
real a litless is that they play.

Speaker 11 (58:34):
I mean, what sticks out to you then you look
at them?

Speaker 22 (58:37):
Yeah, I think just that you know, they play well together,
they play hard, not just in past rush but in
the run game, and they tie it all together.

Speaker 11 (58:44):
So definitely a big challenge that, uh, you know, we're
gonna have to.

Speaker 8 (58:47):
Keep it on.

Speaker 9 (58:50):
What's the key year in the short week prayer.

Speaker 22 (58:53):
I'll just be be extremely diligent mentally, take care of
your body, get back to as you know, one hundred
percent as quick as possible, but just make sure you're
continuing to go over everything because there's a lot to
install at once, and you know, just gotta in order
to play sound football in a short week, and just
gotta mentally be locked in their first kicks.

Speaker 12 (59:18):
Three days, your first full with this team or first
game where you had a full week of prep was
down at so far and they had all those touchdowns
in different fashions. How busy was that week of preparation?
And looking back caught it in retrospect.

Speaker 11 (59:34):
Yeah, it was crazy. It was definitely a blur of
a week.

Speaker 22 (59:38):
You know, it was good to get a full week
instead of just two days when I first got here
for the Chiefs game.

Speaker 11 (59:43):
So it was great to get a full week.

Speaker 22 (59:45):
And you know a lot of credit to Bobby t
and a lot of the coaches who helped me get there,
because it's a lot to install and a lot to
you know, learn in a week. But I just I
remember it was a great feeling, great winning locker room
after that game. And we had to buy after that too,
so I could kind of get my bearings.

Speaker 12 (01:00:02):
Were you surprised that they were even able to install
a trick, right, given just how hectic that must have been.

Speaker 22 (01:00:08):
No, I mean that's you know, those ones are easy
to remember. You know, it's they stick out whenever you're
installing them. So I was prepared for that.

Speaker 23 (01:00:16):
Have you ever had a season, or even a stretch
of the season like this one where the receiving yards
are out pacing your your rushing yards in the way
they are right now?

Speaker 11 (01:00:27):
I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know. I'd have to
go back and look at the numbers.

Speaker 12 (01:00:31):
Is it different to all to prepare for a team
that you play all of every year a couple of years.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
These coaches have been at each place for a long time.

Speaker 12 (01:00:39):
You guys know a lot about each other, and that
make it ain't easier at all to prepare.

Speaker 22 (01:00:44):
I mean, nothing's you know, easier necessarily. I just think
for you know, when you play a divisional opponent that
you know and they know you, it just comes down
to be in sound, you know, playing mistake free football,
and and then mindset.

Speaker 9 (01:00:58):
I know the answers, you can always be better and improve,
et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 21 (01:01:01):
But I mean when you I mean, it's another run
game question. But I mean when you look at it,
I mean, it often doesn't seem to be tons of rome,
you know for you to roam. But do you see
opportunities like should I miss this or I mean you
put it, how much do you think could you could

(01:01:21):
you be better to help.

Speaker 22 (01:01:23):
This running in Definitely, I think you know, whether or
not you're leading the league in rushing or not, you
know you can always be better. Every runner was going
to say the same thing, So I definitely think, you know,
we can all be better.

Speaker 11 (01:01:34):
I can be better and you know we're close though.

Speaker 17 (01:01:37):
Christ And I saw the clip that you had on
Georgia's show where you thought you were going to be
traded to the Rams at that time?

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Was that something that was.

Speaker 11 (01:01:43):
Exciting to you?

Speaker 17 (01:01:44):
And then how quick was the emotion to be traded
here instead?

Speaker 22 (01:01:47):
You know it was it was such a blur, and
I had heard so many different things that I tried
to just focus on being where my feet were because
I didn't I still didn't know whether or not I
was going to get traded, Like you know, I practiced
Wednesday and Thursday for the Panthers and then you know,
i'd heard rumors, but you know, I'm still preparing to
play for a team, and so it was kind of
a weird, uh, you know, mental situation to be in.

(01:02:14):
And I just said, you know, whatever happens happens. I stopped,
I stopped reading into you know what people were saying,
and just you know, whatever was going to happen was
going to happen. And obviously, see when I came here,
I was extremely thrilled.

Speaker 20 (01:02:24):
Is it a weird more mental space just a curiosity
to be in when the run game is kind of
struggling and then you're coming off the loss going down
against a rival.

Speaker 11 (01:02:32):
Is it the same there or not?

Speaker 18 (01:02:33):
Really?

Speaker 20 (01:02:34):
You mean, like are you are you like thinking and
reflecting on like what am I or what can I
do to change the way we're producing.

Speaker 8 (01:02:41):
In the run game?

Speaker 20 (01:02:41):
Or what can this person do? Or what can we
do as a team? Are you mentally reflecting on that
going into this one?

Speaker 22 (01:02:48):
I think, you know, look, I've been I've had stretches
in the run game where I've had like thirty five
yards of rush game, then forty, then thirty eight, and
then you know it feels like you can't run the ball,
and those are in the middle of the season. But
the reality of the situation isn't always you know, that's
not always the truth. And sometimes you are just one

(01:03:08):
guy off or sometimes you are an arm tackle away
from breaking a couple of long ones, and all of
a sudden you have you know, big games, and you
just don't know when that's gonna happen. So I try
to just correct mistakes and capitalize on strengths. But each
game is different, and in the run, each play has
a life of its own, and so you can't predict.
You can't think that it's gonna be one way or another.
You just you have to, you know, treat it as that,

(01:03:30):
treat it as you know, one play at a time.

Speaker 9 (01:03:33):
Good.

Speaker 8 (01:03:35):
Oh really? Okay, Well I like to be like up
just that one day Hall of Famers.

Speaker 20 (01:03:44):
Don't try to pull some acrobat Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:03:48):
Yeah, sure, change your approach. I'm sure change for you.

Speaker 8 (01:03:55):
I guess it's just less days.

Speaker 6 (01:03:56):
You know, you gotta cram a lot of things into
only a couple of days of prep. Getting the body
back is number one. Uh, you know, usually takes all
all six days to get ready to for you know,
get your body ready for a game on the next Sunday.
And so how can you find a way to expire
that process on a short week?

Speaker 24 (01:04:12):
You know, it's better like if you're gonna have a
loss like you did, Sunday that it is a short week.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Yeah, of course you'd rather win, you know, on a
short week. But not kidding, but yeah, no, yeah, it
is good to you know, try to find a way
to get that bad taste out of your mouth and uh,
you know, get back right right back out there watching
pick up for a lot of.

Speaker 9 (01:04:31):
A lot of years.

Speaker 11 (01:04:31):
Have you seen his game show from your sounds?

Speaker 9 (01:04:34):
People?

Speaker 8 (01:04:34):
Are you some about those bou guys?

Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
Man, he so happy for him hopefully you know, this
is the worst outing of the year and they can continue.

Speaker 8 (01:04:43):
Is his success later on.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
But he just does all the little things that most
receivers don't like, just as small as getting involved in
the run game, the way that he run blocks the
run after catch when he has great hands to be
able to transition when he does catch the ball and
then running through contact. Uh you know, the energy that
he plays with, I know is inspirational to his teammates.

Speaker 9 (01:05:03):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:05:04):
And so yeah, man, he's he's done a phenomenal job.
It's only in a short amount of time you watched.

Speaker 11 (01:05:09):
This kind of ceiling for him when from back when
he saw the college or.

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
It's just if he didn't no, I think, no, nobody
could have could have seen this type of success that
he's seen.

Speaker 8 (01:05:20):
Uh, only only he knows that. Only he knew that, right.

Speaker 6 (01:05:23):
I think the Rams probably saw something in him, but
it'd be silly to say that anybody would have thought
that he'd be as great.

Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
As he's been.

Speaker 11 (01:05:30):
You know him pretty well.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
Yeah, I played with his older brother, kind of cool
Boa for three years, So me and Pooker had had
some conversations right before the draft and yeah, great, great kid.

Speaker 24 (01:05:44):
What do you think has enabled him to take what
you saw from him in college and translated to this
kind of success in the NFNL.

Speaker 6 (01:05:52):
I think a big part of it as a young
player is like having the confidence of knowing that you belong.
I think that's literally just the start of it all,
because just speaking from experience, when I came in, it
was like so overwhelming playing against guys that I had
watched on TV for so long, and it's like, do
I really belong? And so for him, I think from
day one he was out there, I think had back

(01:06:13):
to back to back games of like ten plus receptions, right,
And it was a guy that Matt Stafford could rely
on from day one, which spoke to his preparation level,
even uh having a guy like Matt Stafford rely on him,
with a guy like Cooper Cup being out there, just
spoke to how ready he was for his moment. And
he's continued to obviously stay humble and finding ways to
get better in his game through his first what three years.

Speaker 23 (01:06:35):
As far as my receivers, where where does he rank?
And difficulty to tackle bring down to the ground. I
don't think you've ever had a chance to tackle Deebo.

Speaker 6 (01:06:47):
Yeah no, Uh, me and Diebo had you know, had
our little thuds in practice and whatnot, but uh no, Pooga,
I like, I truly believe that's one of the things
that makes him special is his, uh, his willingness to
seek out contact as a receiver. You don't you don't
hear that a lot through you know about receivers around
the league. And I think obviously you spoke about Debo
and he's another one of this guy that's not afraid
to seek it out. So yeah, man, I don't know

(01:07:09):
something about d I U Polynesian combination something like that.

Speaker 24 (01:07:15):
Speaking like, are there parallels between Like would your former
teammates or guys who watch him call chat, would they
be surprised that the success you've had. Are there parallels
between you and cooking?

Speaker 6 (01:07:27):
Yeah, I mean I'd be shocked if somebody were to
tell me, Hey, yeah, I watched Ford BYU and I
knew he'd be good in the NFL. It's like, you know,
nobody really knows until you're until you're there doing it right, Uh, Poka,
what was grabbing the fifth round?

Speaker 8 (01:07:43):
And he's a superstar you know already.

Speaker 6 (01:07:45):
So it completely speaks to his work and what he's
been able to do behind the scenes that people probably
don't see.

Speaker 8 (01:07:53):
So it's all all kudos to him.

Speaker 20 (01:07:55):
Because you mentioned having that moment when you were young,
a feeling didn't you don't know if you belong when
you played against guys that you grew up watching some
guys in the locker room. This time around, who will
be out there with you kind of in the same position.
What was it that clique for you to help you feel.

Speaker 9 (01:08:10):
Like you belonged?

Speaker 20 (01:08:10):
Then are you having those conversations with them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Heading into this one?

Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
I mean it was it was a matter of just
making big plays, you know, in in in the NFL,
you know, to know like all right, so I know
I can do it and then just the consistency of
it all and trying to see how far you could
take it. You know, I know a lot of these
guys have way more confidence in their abilities than I
did back at that time, So they're in a much

(01:08:34):
better position to continue to thrive in our scheme, in
what they're doing for our team.

Speaker 17 (01:08:40):
Do you remember your reaction when he was taken by
the Rams and did his brother send you a text
or anything like take it easy on him?

Speaker 9 (01:08:48):
No? I don't remember.

Speaker 8 (01:08:49):
I don't remember much, you know, hag of a player. Man.

Speaker 6 (01:08:54):
Hopefully, like I said, worst game against us this week?

Speaker 8 (01:08:59):
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Joining me now is Prime's Thursday Night football analyst and
forty nine Ers alum Richard Sherman to preview this week
five Thursday Night football matchup against the Rams. Sharon, thanks
for joining us.

Speaker 9 (01:09:10):
Today, No problem, my pleasure. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
This is the forty nine ers second Divisional game for
the Rams, this will be their first. These games always
mean the most. They're always competitive. Matthew staff Efford looked
solid against the Colts, delivering in critical moments from a
cornerbacks perspective. What's the key to disrupting disrupting a veteran
QB like Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 9 (01:09:33):
Well, you're not going to confuse him.

Speaker 14 (01:09:35):
So's it's just being sound and doing your job, trusting
a coordinators, rustling sala is, putting you in the right calls,
putting you in the right position, just doing your job.

Speaker 9 (01:09:43):
Well, I guess you can try.

Speaker 14 (01:09:45):
To disguise it a little bit if it helps with
the receivers, but you know, these are two of the
best receivers in the league, and DeVante Adams and Pookin Nicula,
So it's going to come down and tackling. You know,
Pooking Nicole is a strong receiver who gets his jack
and breaks tackles and catches passes in critical moments. So
you're going to have to do your best to contain him.
And Defante Adams is a nightmare one on one, so

(01:10:06):
they're going to have to be on there on our
p's and q's exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
To that point. Looking at his targets, Pooka Nakula plays
with toughness, great separation. What makes him a unique challenge
for this forty nine ers defense, especially young guys like
Up and Stout.

Speaker 14 (01:10:20):
Well, he's got strong hands, he's a strong runner. I
mean a lot of the things that made Deebo really
really difficult to stop are the same things that make
Poolka tough to catch to stop. He gets a lot
of targets and he's not going down with one guy,
and so you know, you've got to be aware of
where he is on the field at all times.

Speaker 9 (01:10:40):
He's he's he's in the run game.

Speaker 14 (01:10:43):
Uh, he's blocking hard, he's catching the ball, and he's
running hard. They're going to him a lot. So it's
one of those games you're gonna strap your your helmet
up in cleats definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Now looking at the Niners offensive side, the engine of
their offense has been Christian McCaffrey over one hundred total
yards in all four games so far. What makes him
so difficult to defend.

Speaker 9 (01:11:06):
Well, it's just it's the same thing.

Speaker 14 (01:11:07):
I mean, he's he's a guy that's going to be
dynamic in the in the run game, he's gonna he's
gonna be involved in the past game. He's going to
be a security blanket for the quarterback. He's going to
find a way to get to break tackle and get
the yards that hitting yards that are there on the field.

Speaker 9 (01:11:21):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (01:11:21):
He's incredibly smart football player. And that shows up in
every aspect of his game.

Speaker 12 (01:11:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Now, Sean McVay emphasized how Kah Shanahan's teams are always
physical upfront. How much does the D line have to
set the tone in this game?

Speaker 14 (01:11:36):
Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be a big part of it. Obviously,
the Rams have an incredibly talented D line. The lack
of pressures last week last weekend against the Jags was evident.
So they're going to have to go out there and
send a message early and often that there you know
that that was an aberration and that was a fluke,
and that this D line, even without Nicholas john Bosa,

(01:11:57):
is going to be an issue and something to be
content with.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
On Monday McVeigh he talked about how the forty nine
ers fans usually show up to these LA road games.
How important is that environment for the forty nine ers
who are on the road, especially on a short.

Speaker 14 (01:12:11):
Week, No question, it's it's huge. LEVI South is what
they call that. I believe, you know, I know that
uh Niner fans take pride and that and the faith
for will be that be down there loud and proud,
and I'm excited to see that, but it's huge.

Speaker 9 (01:12:27):
It's a huge advantage.

Speaker 14 (01:12:28):
It's a huge demoralizing factor for the home team, you know,
to see the opponents fans coming out and supporting the
way that the Faith will do. And I'm sure the
team appreciates it, even being on a road film like
they're at home.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Yeah, from your perspective, what are some of the most
important matchups in this game?

Speaker 14 (01:12:48):
It's going to be the Rams defensive line versus the
Niners offensive line. You know, there was a lot of
pressure on brock Perty last week. They're going to have
to rectify that. They're going to have to find some
holes and open some holes against this Rams front. They
had some young talented kids starting with Jared Vers So
that's going to be a matchup to watch. Match what

(01:13:10):
we already talked about, Pooka, Naku and DeVante Adams versus
the forty nine or secondary and whether it's Upton style,
whether it's Diamad or whoever's out there is going to
have to to deal with these guys and do a
good job in order for the forty nine ers to
pull out a winning.

Speaker 9 (01:13:29):
Another matchup will be.

Speaker 14 (01:13:32):
A vice versa the fort Donners defensive line versus the
Rams offensive line. They'll have to find a way to
get some pressure on Stafford. If he's comfortable and he
has time, he's tough to deal with.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Definitely. Now, these Thursday games, they require clarity, they require decisiveness.
As a former player, what did you focus on to
most simplify things for yourself in these short weeks?

Speaker 14 (01:13:53):
Just the fundamentals, the fundamentals of the game, especially as
a defensive player, just running in hidden These are division opponents,
which makes it a lot easier. You see him so often,
you know him so well. There's not going to be
a lot of surprises, our confusion about what Sean McVay
intends on doing to San Francisco forty nine ers, So
I think there's you know, obviously that level of familiarity

(01:14:17):
helps on a short week because you don't have to
go super deep into game planning. Obviously he's put some
new wrinkles in every year, every team does, But for
the most part, you understand who you're facing fundamentally, so
that's what you focus on. You focus on just doing
your job well, tackling well, running well, enthusiasm, energy, and
trying to be as healthy as you can going into it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Yeah, amazing. Finally, Shirm, you've been in these forty nine
ers RAMS matchups before. What makes this rivalry so unique?

Speaker 9 (01:14:46):
I think it starts with the coaches. I think it
starts with the coaches.

Speaker 14 (01:14:49):
You know, two great play callers who know each other
incredibly well, too, systems that are similar, especially in the
fundamental aspects of them, and a lot of great players,
a lot of great players on both sides of the football.
Quarterback play is going to be at a high level
and it's going to be fun to watch. It's fun

(01:15:09):
to watch two teams that know each other well because
it'll come down to the details that win this game.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
This will absolutely be a fun one. Sham. Thank you
so much for joining me today and we'll see you
on Thursday night.

Speaker 9 (01:15:19):
No problem, see Thursday.

Speaker 6 (01:15:22):
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