July 29, 2025 • 42 mins
Labs and Tom talk about the pads coming on today, hear Coach Tomlins thoughts at the end of the acclimation period, and talk about some injury problems on the offensive line
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
After an off day yesterday for your Steelers, the pads
come on today, so things get real up at Latrobe
and Saint Vincent College at one fifty five. Welcome into
the training Camp, report Tom Offerman. And with me as
always is Bob Labriola and Labs. Do you think Mike
Tomlin views this day as more of a holiday than
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all the other ones combined, all the actual halls, wrap
them all up, present him in one singular package, and
he's still gonna choose pad day.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, I mean it's it's you know, you mentioned it's
gonna get real. Uh. The I think the way Mike
Tomlan looks at it is it's getting closer to real football. Uh,
and that always kind of excites him, because you really
can't evaluate this stuff until guys have pads on. You know,
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the physical aspects of this sport are significant at every level,
and I think as you get to the NFL level,
it's even more significant. So yeah, this is this is
a time. It's it's like a turning the corner kind
of time, I think for the coaches, the evaluators, but
also the players. I mean, I've gotta believe that there
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are guys up in that locker room here, well not
just yet, but you know, getting ready for this. You know,
they're chomping at the bid a little bit. Yep. When
I went over, I was over early this morning, riding
a bike to nowhere in the workout room there, and
one of the equipment guys was taping the shoulder pads,
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you know, using the two sided tape you put it on,
so that when the players put it on, they pulled
the jersey down in it. The jersey states tight to
their pads so that it doesn't allow whoever they're going against,
usually it's lineman, you know, to grab them, be able
to grab them easily. And you know that's that's what
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happens now, this is that's one of the preparation things
that in terms of the equipment. I'm sure that maybe
in a if there was a meeting last night, you know,
when they got back this morning. Whatever. Yeah, I'm sure
they talked about it. Why would they not, Not that
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it's a big, raw, raw thing or anything. But I
think everybody kind of knows. The players, certainly, all the
players know it's at stake, and I think all the coaches, scouts,
those people doing evaluating know what it means.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I'm sure you had goosebumps when you saw him taping
those shoulder pads. I have goosebumps just hearing you talking
about it, and let's be honest, it's more enjoyable for
you and all of our media brethren as well.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, but you know, I don't know that I had,
you know, I was having goosebumps or anything. I was
just no thankful that I wasn't going to be putting
on those pads and trying to defend myself. So, yeah,
it's I remember Chuck Nole saying about football, it's not
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normal human behavior. It's not Chuck Knowle's belief was that
you know, normal people if you know they are running
in a direction and it looks like they're going to
run into someone or something. There's that, there's a natural flinching.
You know, you're preparing yourself to get hit. You know,
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what they teach football players to do is accelerate through that,
and that has to be something often that has to
be retaught every year, because that was Chuck Knowles's philosophy
is belief it's not normal human behavior. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I was never able to accelerate through that, no matter
how many times people tried to draw that into me.
I guess Chuck Noll could call me a normal human
when it comes to that.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yes, yes, well I was even more normal than you.
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Before we get to what happened in Sunday's practice and
what LABS had to observe, there are some roster transactions
that we want to go over, starting with I think
the headline labs as Corderio Patterson was released yesterday during
the Steelers off day, and you maybe were able to
see the writing on the wall there because it was
a really crowded running back room.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, I mean, and certainly last year. The I think
that the Steelers signed him right away because he you know,
statis speaking is the most is the best kickoff returner,
among the best kickoff returners in NFL history, but it
just doesn't The rules still don't allow for a lot
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of kickoff returns. You know, when the Steelers signed Corderio
Patterson last last year, the new kickoff rules were kind
of unproven, untested, nobody really knew how it was going
to shake out. But he kickoff returning is it's it's
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not what it used to be. And Cordero Patterson is
not the kind of returner he used to be either,
So yeah, I didn't you know, in terms of the
running backs, you know, the addition of Kenneth Gatewell and
Caleb Johnson to go with Jalen Warren. I mean, when
you get to keep four of them, that's you know.
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I again, this to me was a the Corderio Patterson
move to me was a win, not if.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, I feel the same way. And then there were
some other moves that were made by the Steelers as well.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yes, you know, we talked about this one time about
you know, guys who get injured in practice, depending upon
their status or they're placed on the depth chart or whatever.
You know, if they're going to be out for it
doesn't have to be season ending or anything. But if
they're going to be out for a period of time
that is judged to be too long for them to
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then when they come back, have a legitimate shot at
competing for a roster spot or even providing competitive practice.
A lot of times they wave them injured, you know,
and then when you do that, the bookkeeping part of
it is, you know, the team and the player representative
come to a financial arrangement, and then the in terms
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of the player personnel stuff, you can add a guy
to the roster opens up a roster spot. So that's
exactly what happened with Jeremiah Moon, veteran from Floridi's has
three years in the league. I mean he's been around
the Steelers now a couple of years. Outside linebacker, special
teams guy, and wide receiver Montana Lamonious Craig. He also
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was waved injured. He was a rookie, undrafted rookie. So
that's what happened to those guys. The Steelers then signed
three people to bring, you know, to balance the three
people that they got rid of. Dominique Davis, they brought
him back. Now, Dominique Davis is a three year guy,
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from UNC Pembroke defensive tackle. He was the guy who
was released to create a roster spot when the Steelers
signed Chuck Clark. So you know, the moral of the
story is, just because you're waived once doesn't mean you're
gone for good.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Keep your phone on your.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Phone on right, Yeah, and don't I don't know, don't
go to Sharky's and.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right, maybe book a book a nice session in the
gym the next morning, just in case.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, twelve dozen wings or whatever. They also added a rookie,
Kevin Foleshitt who's listed as a tight end, and Lou Nichols,
a running back of first year player from Central Michigan.
I don't none of those acquisitions I don't think are
significant in terms of moving the needle on depth charts
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or any of that stuff. But you know, you do.
You do need to be able to have guys who
provide you with quality enough reps in practice to make
the practice worthwhile, and so those guys get a shot
at that.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Let's bring you up to speed with what happened on
the last practice of the acclamation period on Sunday, Seven
Shots Labs. The defense wins seven shots, So I guess
you could say they win the acclamation portion of things
two games to one.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, I know exactly what the acclamation portion, uh seven
shots trophy actually is made up of, but you I
haven't been able to find out if they're still doing
the dinner rewards. You know, the winner of seven shots.
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If if the offense wins, you know, everybody on the
offense plus the coaches get a dinner reward. And if
you're on the losing part of it, everybody on that
unit plus the coaches, they don't get the reward. And
I just want to explain to people that this is
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not a situation where if your side of the ball
loses seven shots, you know you're eating spaghettio out of
a camp. It's not like that. It's more of a
reward for the winners rather than punishment for the losers.
Because you know, the Steelers, Mike Tomlin are very interesting,
have been taking care of the players, their bodies. You
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don't want them. You know, if one the offense or
defense will go on a losing streak in seven shots,
you know, you don't want guys cramping up or whatever
whatever it is, because they've been eating. As I said,
Spaghettio's out of a can, which, by the way, was
a staple of my college dog.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Oh, it's the best staple of my diet still. But
you're talking more like it's lobster versus having a grilled
chicken sandwich.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
No, it might be everybody's eating. You know, there will
be a a fish option, maybe there's some kind of
meat option. But if you win, there might be another option.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Gotcha, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
It's something that.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
You get the bonus, you get everything.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yes, you get a bonus.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yes, some other observations that you made from this practice portion,
and it's something that really has become such a calling
card for the Steelers' labs is why you black. A
rookie this year got his pause on a couple of
passes at the line of scrimmage, and that has more
value if that happens today when the offensive lineman might
have a little bit more saying things with the pads on.
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But that is just something that this coaching staff obviously
is drilling into this defensive line. Coaching into them is
getting those mits up there. If you're not going to
get home pass rush wise affect the play elsewhere. And
their first team All Pro who just seems to be
the Ageless Wonder, embodies that more than anybody. I mean,
Cam Heyward has more passes defended the most defensive backs
in the NFL labs.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, and you know, it's something that the Steelers work on.
I mean not so much in a on field drill,
but I think that it's something that's talked about and
taught probably most in meetings. You know, how to get
in the passing lanes, how to read what's going on
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so that you can get yourself in the passing lanes,
because you know, it's not like the Steelers want these
players to give up on their pass rush and you know,
think that they're the Kenby Matumbo uh there and just
you know, do the little fingerweg no, no, no, no,
those were great commercials. But anyway, uh yeah, it's it's
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just something that you work on to have to add
to your repertoire of weapons or uh you know, things
that you can do. Just to go off on a
short tangent here, it's a lot like how the Steelers
work on, uh blocking kicks Danny Smith with the special teams.
I mean, that is something that the Steelers, if you
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look at it Uh, over the past several years, they're
always near the top of the league in block kicks, uh,
extra points, field goals, you know, punts. So again, these
are not these these things are not happenstance. They just
don't happen. Uh. There's no such thing as spending a
draft pick on a guy who's good at that. I mean,
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you have to teach him.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
That, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
He may have some of the raw physical skills that
once he is taught, then he becomes good at it.
But again, it's not like you know, being a seven
footer in high school and you just stand at the
basket and reject everything. You know, as I said, there's work.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Involved, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And like you were saying, like maybe they don't even
do it that much in college, right, But on the film,
the Steelers scouting department and the coaching staff can identify
some players that are like, you know what, they're gonna
take to that really easily.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
That guy's got athleticism.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I definitely think his handguy coordination is something that we
can toy with and we can coach that into him.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
And boy, they really do.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And you saw harmon you know, you said on Saturday's practice,
there was some muddiness, right, was it Herbig? Was it
Harmon that got his hand on the ball? You and
Persuda both think it was Harmon. I mean, it's another
defensive lineman getting his mits up there. It's really useful
for the Steelers to be able to do that. Hey,
before we wrap things up here in this segment, you
mentioned it the top of the show, how everybody's kind
of chomping at the bit now to put these pads
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on after these four practices. Well, we saw a little
kerfuffle right at the end of practice on Sunday between
Holcomb and McCollum. Kind of that kind of anticipation or
that need to have contact boiled over a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, and that's I'm sure that that's going to be
one of the things that is discussed in terms of
controlling that because scuffles are frowned upon. Fighting is is
is just way more than that. So, uh yeah, I'm
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sure that there were there were talks both in position
meetings and then Mike Tomlin, if you addressed the team,
you know, doing that is strictly verboten. You do not.
They don't want to see that. That is not going
to help you if you're involved in that. In fact,
it'll work the opposite way.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, you know, Hey, you have to control your emotions
on the football field in a regular their season game.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
And first of all, these are your teammates out here.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
These guys are gonna help you win games in the
regular season, so there's that angle to it. But hey,
if this is like Week four and some center is
gets chirping at Holcombe and getting in his head and
being a little physical with him, you respond that way.
You're costing us fifteen yards and you got to instill
those things at this portion of the season.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yes, yes, what you said.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
When we come back, Labs is gonna put on his
meteorologist Tad. He's gonna let us know about the weather
for today's first padded practice, and then we're gonna hear
what coach Tomlin had to say following Sunday's practice, the
final one of the acclamation period. It's PAD day up
at Saint Vincent College and you're listening to the Steelers'
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Speaker 2 (16:24):
Tom off Froman and Bob Labriola on the Training Camp
report on this a first padded practice of Steelers Training
Camp for twenty twenty five and labs the past couple
of practices. Mother Nature has kind of rained on the
parade and ended things early for the Steelers over the weekend.
What she got cooked up for us today?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I don't think it's we're gonna get wet. I just don't.
And you know, I think I might be getting numb
to this rainforest conditions we've been having around here since
we got here. Because you know it's listed right now,
there's a heat advisory on according to the National Weather
Service until six o'clock today. But you know, walking over
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here from the dorm. I was thinking, this isn't too bad.
There is some cloud cover which I think always helps,
you know, keeps the sun you know, kind of in
its house a little bit. And right now it's eighty
one degrees seventy nine percent humidity. The due point is
seventy three degrees. So as I said, it's it's if
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you're out there in the on the field, you know,
hitting people with full full uniform, full pads on. I'm
sure it's it's not like a day at the pool.
But it just doesn't seem as bad as it did
to me last Saturday and Sunday so far. And you
know this, as I said, there are some clouds in
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the sky, but they're not that those ugly ones that
you see when you go, oh, one of the sirens
going to go off. They're gonna have to clear the bleachers.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
That's what they've had to do the past couple of practices,
as I mentioned, and they just called it correct like
there was no coming back to the field. It was
it after that because it was towards the end of practice,
like what is do you think that cut off point?
And maybe it means more if the pads are actually
on where they'll go into the dorms, they'll evacuate the field,
they'll go wherever, but then they'll still come back and
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finish practice. Like, at what point do you think is
when they finally decide we've got enough practice in or
we know what we need to wait this out and
still get out there.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, I mean, first of all, there's a lot of
consultation of the radar, and I'm sure that you know
that the radar that the Steelers are using, or the websites,
not that they actually have their own radar machines, but
the websites that they're using, you know, are a little
bit more detailed than the one that I'm using.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Spoiler alert it's us. I actually heard that.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, so you know the things that you have excuse me,
the things that you have to weigh. Okay, if you
have to call it and send them up to the
locker room, when's your next window when you can get
back on the field. How long is it? And then
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you're take into considerations things like rewarming everyone up, how
long does that take? And then you know you're trying
to factor all of that in. Uh, there are other considerations,
you know, you have meetings and dinner, and you know
there's other parts of the day. There are some things
that you can push back or massage, but other things,
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I mean, you get you reach a point of you know,
that's that's the end. I mean, that's this is this
is the drop dead time, and you know it's not
going to be like last year's game. What was that
against Dallas? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Right, I just had a flashback when you mentioned that.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That was a real game and you know they have
to get it in you're on TV, I mean, and
the league handles that. So you know that that's a
situation where where I believe it it's almost pretty much
if there's a window to get it or completed, don't
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wait for that window. And then because the league doesn't
care if you know, the officials have a plane to
catch or something. I mean, you're you're not going, You're
this is your job, Dallas, the visiting team, you gotta
you gotta figure it out. So, but a practice is different.
There are some rules in the CBA in terms of
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how long players are allowed to be quote unquote kept
in a work day, and so if they're sitting in
the locker room for an hour, an hour and a
half that counts towards the workday, So those are things
that you're evaluating too. So it's not as simple as
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it sounds, and it's not as easy as you or
I would make it where you know, three rain drops up,
cancel practice, We're done, you know, let's get on with
our day now. This is I mean, because you can't
make it up. You can't say we'll have two tomorrow exactly. No,
it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
As you heard Labs say.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It doesn't seem like you're gonna get wet today if
you're heading up to training camp practice. That's not a
guarantee though of course up where they practice it can
change drastically. But so far it looked so good. Just
gonna have to deal with maybe a little bit of heat.
Tomin's gonna love that though. This is like Christmas morning
to him. Padded practice. Finally, here let's hear what coach
Tomlin had to say following the acclamation period and following
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Sunday's practice with the media.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
We had another really good day of work, just beat
the weather. But just like the general approach to work
with the group, it's been a really good acclamation period
for us. An opportunity to talk about some cultural things
that we value to really set the stage for how
we were so when we get in past next week, man,
we can just get hyper focused on the ball and
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the technique required to be effective under those circumstances. The
groups has displayed really good conditioning largely, but we have
had some injuries associated with the start of camp. Take
a wide receiver Montana weren't able to finish the day
with a soft tissue injury. Lord Body, Broderick Jones, same thing.
I imagine that those can be characterized as day to
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day DJ Thomas Jones at tight end looked like he
had a more significant injury that's being evaluated next time
we come together. I have some more information in that
regard for you. Some of the guys we're managing limiting
their reps. Sometimes it's in an effort to take care
of them. Sometimes it's an effort to provide additional reps
for others. For developing players, there's really no secret to
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getting better. It's about coming in shape, having the ability
to absorb additional reps, and then us utilizing those opportunities
for improvement and so excited about the work we've done
thus far. The guys get an off day tomorrow, will
rally as a staff, do some preparation for next week,
these next block of days, and continue on with the
team development process.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Questions still, is he kind of the leader in the
clubhouse for that swing tackle role?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Then with him going in there, we're just acclimating.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Certainly, he's a veteran guy that's been around and has
served in that capacity before. But you know, I'm not
assuming anything at this juncture, at this early stage of
development regarding specific roles and specialization.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Baby old passes might be a little bit of an art.
Did did seventy h show that in Iowa? Or has
he picked that up since he's been there?
Speaker 6 (23:36):
He did, But you know, it's something that we really
value culturally. Obviously, I think Cam probably led all the
interior defensive lignment in the league last year. Benton was
also very high. We work at it. He has an
aptitude for it and hopefully it continues. And even more so,
when you talked about coverage guys, you know, not labeling them,
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do you include linebacker like a queen?
Speaker 8 (23:59):
And if Peyton Wilson continues to show that, is that
more of those coverage type guys that need to be
in the.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
The reality is in today's game man, So much of
the matchup component is about guy's ability to cover people,
put dangerous people inside and underneath, and so athletic linebackers
are an asset. And certainly Patrick Queen and Peyton Wilson
men are very capable from a linebacker perspective, and so yes,
I would include them as as significant components of the
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coverage unit.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Like Eckles had an interception today, speak to the energy
that he's brought in what your.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Impressions are of from early I like Echoles a lot,
and he's a hard working guy.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
He's a professional.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Certainly we've competed against him in the past, not only
as a defender but as a core teamer.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
That's a veteran guy.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Man that brings that energy every day and so he's
made some plays and it's reasonable to expect that to continue.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Another veteran guy on the other side, Scotty Miller. What
does he add to this wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Room versatility, He knows all the spots, he's high conditioned,
he's very competitive, he's a been there, done that guy,
and so there's a lot of value in his presence.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
Mike, you have a lot of movie pieces on both
sides of the ball. Different alignments that both sides are trying.
Are used coaches collaborating to match certain things up or
is it just each side is going with certain things
that they're working on at different times.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
You know, it's both.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
There's certain certainly collaboration because it's just a major component
of the team development. We've got to be cooperative workers
in terms of our installs and what people are ready for.
If we don't, we waste snaps and waste days. But
it's not exclusive in terms of our planning. There's certainly
some independent component from a unit perspective regarding install and
what we're doing.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Can you send your players anticipating and getting the pads
on and getting ready for that next step?
Speaker 6 (25:46):
There's no doubt, man, they're like racehorses. That's just the
next step in this thing, and they're ready.
Speaker 10 (25:53):
Do you have a most anticipated matchup, whether it's in
those backs on backers or oline d line one on ones?
Speaker 6 (25:58):
You know, I like I like versus Peyton Wilson and routes.
You know, Kenny g is on a really good aptitude
from a route running standpoint out of the backfield. Peyton
Wilson in the second year is a guy that that's
working to be dominating that area. It's just one of
those matchups that has my attention.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
The coach reference to your running backs. Of course, we
know what Warren can do in addition.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
To the rookie Johnson, but what about that kennep gangwell
and even a trade sermon.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
You know, Kenny is experienced and versatile. That's why we
acquired him not only as a runner but also as
a kick returner in the special teams game. I know
less about Trey, certainly I know his college resume. He's
a highly conditioned and ready guy. He's a professional in
terms of his approach to business, so I'm excited about
seeing what he brings next week as well.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
We were able to.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Talk to Chuck Park today for the first time.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Just what does he add to this group? And also,
I mean he.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Gone off the plane and went straight to practice on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Does that impress you at all?
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Been really impressive with his ability to digest schematics in
a short period of time and execute defense. But I'm
not completely surprised by it because we've competed against him
over the years, and I just know he has a
reputation of a really solid professional. I think he's displayed
that the short period of time he's been here.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Wait, can you.
Speaker 11 (27:16):
Learn much about Derek Harmon from these four.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
Days or do you really need to get the pads
on to have any kind of sense of where he is?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Community's Brookie Year.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
The big Man game is played in pads and I'm
looking forward to seeing him and others under those circumstances.
Not to discount what he's done, but that's such a
major component of his job description.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Mike Kayleb has talked about improving on his receiving ability
in passcro since since he was drafted into working meet camp.
How have you seen him kind of embrace that challenge
and shrive to improve on those areas?
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Man, he's a willing worker, but you know he needs
to improve in all areas all young people do. We've
yet to play in pads and obviously, regarding his position,
that's a major component. And so it's an incomplete body
of work, but it's an incomplete body of work for
all of us at this juncture, and so this week
is big in terms of some of those things. Blitz
pick up is something that's really evaluated in pads. Certainly,
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he's been working to develop and hone his technique, but
the physicality component of something is something that that's very
difficult to simulate.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Coach tommin following Sunday's practice, the final of the acclamation period,
and you heard it in some of those answers. You know, yeah,
some of these guys their technique is good and their
willingness to work is good, and they can check those
boxes now, but until we get those pads on, we're
not truly going to know what we got. You're going
to finally start to see that today with practice starting
at one fifty five when Labs.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
And I come back.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
It's not all sunshine and roses in Steelers paradise. There
is some injury concerns when it comes to that offensive line.
So we'll get into that group and we'll hear from
Steelers second year man Troy Fatanu. That's on the way
on the training camp report on Fox Sports Pittsburgh nine
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Speaker 11 (29:30):
Lads.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I think it's fair to say that there was a
decent amount of pressure on the Steelers offensive line. There
is a decent amount of pressure on the Steelers offensive
line this year to individually and as a group, take
a nice step forward so this team can have the
success that they imagine that they can have. And I'm
not saying that it's panic time or panic mode time
or anything like that, but there have been some injury
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blows dealt to that O line. Early, Ciamalu has yet
to practice, appearing on the non football related injury list,
and then after Sunday's final acclamation period, we saw Roderick
Jones go down and he is now day to day.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's never good when that kind of
stuff happens to a team. Certainly, you know the way
that the Steelers roster is configurated. You know, certainly the
usage of two number one picks of the previous three
drafts on offensive tackles was obviously a commitment to improving
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that offensive line. And you know, Broderck Jones going into
his third season, Troy Filotano going into a second, you know,
the team has every reasonable expectation that you know, these
guys are now going to start, you know, being the
kinds of players that they were drafted to be. You know,
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and when when you're in see and then when you
make those picks like that, you're you're kind of counting
on them too. I mean, you don't have that many picks.
He's seven rounds in the draft. And so you know,
the Steelers didn't draft any offensive linemen this year. It's
not that they ignored it or anything, but you know,
you have, again, you have two tackles. Number one, your
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center is a number two that you drafted last year.
You know, you've made a commitment with draft picks, draft
capital to that to that unit. And so if you
have injuries to that unit, especially the front line part
of that unit, it's I don't know, it's concerning now.
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Certainly the injury to Broderick Jones could be very really nothing.
He could be on the field today. He could be
on the field tomorrow. I don't know, but I mentioned
him in particular because you know, Broderick Jones was a
left tackle in college. He didn't play a lot in
college in terms of me in terms of games, and
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he was a young person chronologically as well when he
entered the NFL. But because Dan Moore Junior couldn't play
any other position but left tackle, Broderick Jones was moved
to right tackle. I wouldn't say he was a bust
or a washout, but certainly they traded up to get him.
(32:23):
You would like to get more from a guy you
traded up to pick than what the Steelers saw from
Broderick Jones' first two seasons. So now you're starting to
get into you know, we've talked about this before, the
critical area of a guy's rookie contract. You know, it's
not going to be that long. And I don't mean
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by weeks or anything, but it's not that long into
the future. The Steelers are gonna have to make a
decision on Broderick Jones. Do we want to exercise this
fifty year option. And I don't know if anybody's been
paying attention to what's going on around the league. But
offensive tackles make a lot of money, a lot. Did
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that come through correctly?
Speaker 5 (33:07):
When I said a lot lot, you should say one
more time?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, okay, I saw Max Starks. What was it today? Yeah? No,
it was yesterday in the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
They all blurred together up there and one long day.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yes, I said, did you hear what happened to rush
On Slater who was a left tackle for the Los
Angeles Chargers? And his eyes got big right away. He
thought I was going to say he was injured. I said, no,
he signed a four year contract extension one hundred and
wait a minute, I'm gonna get you the numbers here
while I yeah, rush On Slater one hundred and fourteen
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million dollars on a four year extension. Twenty eight no,
twenty nine million signing bones. So that's what it costs,
you know. So you know, fans like to think we'll
go out and get one. You know, they don't exist,
you know, the guys you can go out and get.
It's not like it's not even the salary cap money
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that would be ridiculous. Nobody had. And you know, there's
no such thing as too many, you know, teams don't
have too many of these kind of players. A lot
of teams don't have enough. So yeah, the Broderick Jones thing,
to me is a little concerning, but it's concerning to
me from the outside, not knowing what a lot of
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other people might know. The Isaac Camalu thing. He is
a veteran. I you know, for me, there's nothing that
Isaac camal And needs to show me a training camp, agreed,
you know, if he's not almost you know, and I
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hate to because this isn't the way it's looked upon
by the people in the business, the football business. But
to me, the only thing that can happen to Isaac
camal in this training campus something bad. I mean, it's
not like he's gonna develop some other skill or show
oh wow, this is something else he can do, or
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you know, he's already I guess you could call him
the best overall offensive lineman on the roster. Let's just
keep him healthy and get him ready for the regular season.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Now, on the other side of that offensive line at
the tackle position, Troy Fatanu injured all of last year.
For the most part, I got to see him for
a little bit in that Denver game and now he's
trying to work his way back from that injury, and
we're gonna hear some of his comments following practice on
Sunday and just the second Labs. But before we get
to him, the coaching staff for the Steelers last year
obviously had a ton of faith in this guy. He
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was injured throughout most of this training camp portion last year,
and they still put him into that Denver game in
front of Roger Jones when he was healthy. That's rare
for the Steelers to treat somebody like that, especially missing
so much time ramping up to that. And now I
just get the sense, and I talked to a lot
of people around there, and I'm sure you're gonna echo
this that they're just really high on the ceiling for
the guy.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah. I mean, and and Troy Filtano. He showed enough
in training camp for the Steelers to have that kind
of faith in him. And so, you know, I think
that the the the off season thought with him was
all along, Uh he's you know, get the nap ready
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and uh, there's every confidence that he's going to be, uh,
you know, a quality starting NFL right tackle. So you know,
with him, it's and let me say this. As the
off season progressed, everything seemed to be, uh, all systems
were go in terms of him showing up here in
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good health, and for all I have heard he had
he did that and so you know, he's a guy
now who you know he needs reps to hone his
craft and then those kind of things. But I think
that in terms of can he play that question, I
don't think there's any real question about that. It's he
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needs to develop and he needs to stay healthy and
that position will be fine. I think for maybe a decade.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
When Troy Faltana was coming off the practice field on Sunday,
he caught up with the media and he started with
what you were talking about the knee and how he's
coming along with his rehab of that and getting back
to full speed and.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Being able to trust it every single day every rep
that I take, Obviously.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
He gets more comfortable and more comfortable. Obviously there's a.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
Lot that I still need to get back into doing,
but yeah, I feel that's probably like the last checkpoint
until we go out there and play for him.
Speaker 10 (37:47):
So Troy even seems to be throwing a lot more
alignments as you guys, especially early in camp, what has
that been. What has that challenge been like for you
guys as a unit to understand, you know, when they're
going when they're challenging this gap versus that gap, but
needed to communicate.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Yeah, So the big thing right now is that, like,
obviously we're trying to prepare for a season, but we're
playing the Steelers every single day, like we're playing against
our defense. So we're making up rules that are just
specific to camp and obviously going into the season, that'll
help us knowing.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
That we've seen these fronts before.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
So when the bullets are flying, like we'll be we'll
be very prepared.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
That's something we talk about every day.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
I joke around and say I'm like six or five,
and everyone always laughs at me, but I mean, yeah,
won't change. Yeah, that's what I tell them, just to
look it up. But yeah, that's an inside joke. We
all talk about every single day how short I am,
or make fun of Zach a lot. But yeah, I
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mean it's there's nothing we can do about that, so
obviously we have to be able to make up for
that in other ways.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
So you guys experienced line either order than Isaac, how
do you work around the.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Kind of it's football at the end of the days.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
That we can do that.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
I can't go back in time and wish I'd never
got hurt, And really nothing we can do other than
learn from the coaches and learn from the experience. When
we got the best defensive line we get to go
against every single day. So going into the season, obviously
it'll help prepare us for.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Sundays drawings.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Didn't take me kind of add to that.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
How much as what the heat of the late aftercan practices?
How much is that kind of camp things up? But
for where are you guys kind of frustrated.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
With each other?
Speaker 7 (39:36):
Yeah, you could tell guys are a little bit more
on as yesterday obviously with the heat. But I mean,
this is something that coach Tomlin planned for. This is
something he told us before we went on break to
be prepared for. I was back home in Vegas. It
was like one hundred and ten degrees very single day,
So obviously it wasn't that crazy, but the humidity is
a lot different out here.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
But something I got at used to I can't. I can't.
I was about to say something I can't.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Complain about it knowing that it's something that I'm gonna
be playing in for the next couple of months, so well,
you see any benefits from it too, though, like having
to be out here in this humidity and you.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Know, I mean you guys are playing in Jacksonville that first. Yeah, yeah,
is it gonna help. I mean there's gonna be one
o'clock games, Like, we can't control.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
What time we play, so obviously being out in the
hottest part of the day is gonna prepare us for anything.
I mean today it was It's crazy how bipolar this
weather is here, and it's like raining ten minutes and.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Then the next ten minutes it's like how it was. Yes,
I don't even know.
Speaker 7 (40:35):
How it was, but yeah, it's it's preparing us for sure,
and obviously getting us in shape, and we've got to
make sure that we're all hydrated, especially you guys too.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I'm sure you guys feel it as well.
Speaker 10 (40:46):
But yeah, if there's a primary teaching point that Pat
Myers had with you just through the early parts of GEM,
what's the biggest thing we felt used.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
One with you to personally, Yeah, I think just settling in,
like my feet especially like obviously missed a lot of
reps so.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Came back.
Speaker 7 (41:06):
I think got some happy feet, just moving them, just
to move them, but that's about it.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
I think once my feet are good and usually everything
else is good.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
So there's reps here and there that depending on who
I'm blocking, who's rushing against me, things can get a
little crazy just because I'm trying to find get back
into that rhythm. But once I do, I'm starting to
feel better. Especially going into bads, it changes a lot
of things.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Got more to what's his coaches kind of like what
does he challenging.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
I would say all three of them, him, coach Isaac
on the tail. You know they're they all have different
coaching styles and.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
We all know what to expect from them.
Speaker 7 (41:51):
So I mean, I think he just makes sure that
he sets the table with this technique that he wants to.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Do and then we kind of just choose from from
being here.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Steelers offensive lineman Troy Fatanu after practice on Sunday, someone
I'm really excited to keep an eye on this year,
had his rookie season robbed by injury, Hoping for the
best of health for him and for him to truly
realize his great potential in the NFL. Starting this season
when Labs and I come back to start the second hour.
We're going to look at the defensive side of the ball,
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look at the secondary and the safety position in particular,
and hear from new Steeler Chuck Clark, who spoke to
the media for the first time Sunday following practice. Also
going to be joined by Chris Hoak a little bit
later in the show. So excited for Hoki to sit
down with Labs and myself in the second hour. You're
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
After an off day yesterday for your Steelers, the pads
come on today, so things get real up at Latrobe
and Saint Vincent College at one fifty five. Welcome into
the training Camp, report Tom Offerman. And with me as
always is Bob Labriola and Labs. Do you think Mike
Tomlin views this day as more of a holiday than
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all the other ones combined, all the actual halls, wrap
them all up, present him in one singular package, and
he's still gonna choose pad day.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, I mean it's it's you know, you mentioned it's
gonna get real. Uh. The I think the way Mike
Tomlan looks at it is it's getting closer to real football. Uh,
and that always kind of excites him, because you really
can't evaluate this stuff until guys have pads on. You know,
(01:27):
the physical aspects of this sport are significant at every level,
and I think as you get to the NFL level,
it's even more significant. So yeah, this is this is
a time. It's it's like a turning the corner kind
of time, I think for the coaches, the evaluators, but
also the players. I mean, I've gotta believe that there
(01:50):
are guys up in that locker room here, well not
just yet, but you know, getting ready for this. You know,
they're chomping at the bid a little bit. Yep. When
I went over, I was over early this morning, riding
a bike to nowhere in the workout room there, and
one of the equipment guys was taping the shoulder pads,
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you know, using the two sided tape you put it on,
so that when the players put it on, they pulled
the jersey down in it. The jersey states tight to
their pads so that it doesn't allow whoever they're going against,
usually it's lineman, you know, to grab them, be able
to grab them easily. And you know that's that's what
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happens now, this is that's one of the preparation things
that in terms of the equipment. I'm sure that maybe
in a if there was a meeting last night, you know,
when they got back this morning. Whatever. Yeah, I'm sure
they talked about it. Why would they not, Not that
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it's a big, raw, raw thing or anything. But I
think everybody kind of knows. The players, certainly, all the
players know it's at stake, and I think all the coaches, scouts,
those people doing evaluating know what it means.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I'm sure you had goosebumps when you saw him taping
those shoulder pads. I have goosebumps just hearing you talking
about it, and let's be honest, it's more enjoyable for
you and all of our media brethren as well.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, but you know, I don't know that I had,
you know, I was having goosebumps or anything. I was
just no thankful that I wasn't going to be putting
on those pads and trying to defend myself. So, yeah,
it's I remember Chuck Nole saying about football, it's not
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normal human behavior. It's not Chuck Knowle's belief was that
you know, normal people if you know they are running
in a direction and it looks like they're going to
run into someone or something. There's that, there's a natural flinching.
You know, you're preparing yourself to get hit. You know,
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what they teach football players to do is accelerate through that,
and that has to be something often that has to
be retaught every year, because that was Chuck Knowles's philosophy
is belief it's not normal human behavior. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I was never able to accelerate through that, no matter
how many times people tried to draw that into me.
I guess Chuck Noll could call me a normal human
when it comes to that.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yes, yes, well I was even more normal than you.
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Before we get to what happened in Sunday's practice and
what LABS had to observe, there are some roster transactions
that we want to go over, starting with I think
the headline labs as Corderio Patterson was released yesterday during
the Steelers off day, and you maybe were able to
see the writing on the wall there because it was
a really crowded running back room.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, I mean, and certainly last year. The I think
that the Steelers signed him right away because he you know,
statis speaking is the most is the best kickoff returner,
among the best kickoff returners in NFL history, but it
just doesn't The rules still don't allow for a lot
(05:13):
of kickoff returns. You know, when the Steelers signed Corderio
Patterson last last year, the new kickoff rules were kind
of unproven, untested, nobody really knew how it was going
to shake out. But he kickoff returning is it's it's
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not what it used to be. And Cordero Patterson is
not the kind of returner he used to be either,
So yeah, I didn't you know, in terms of the
running backs, you know, the addition of Kenneth Gatewell and
Caleb Johnson to go with Jalen Warren. I mean, when
you get to keep four of them, that's you know.
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I again, this to me was a the Corderio Patterson
move to me was a win, not if.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, I feel the same way. And then there were
some other moves that were made by the Steelers as well.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yes, you know, we talked about this one time about
you know, guys who get injured in practice, depending upon
their status or they're placed on the depth chart or whatever.
You know, if they're going to be out for it
doesn't have to be season ending or anything. But if
they're going to be out for a period of time
that is judged to be too long for them to
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then when they come back, have a legitimate shot at
competing for a roster spot or even providing competitive practice.
A lot of times they wave them injured, you know,
and then when you do that, the bookkeeping part of
it is, you know, the team and the player representative
come to a financial arrangement, and then the in terms
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of the player personnel stuff, you can add a guy
to the roster opens up a roster spot. So that's
exactly what happened with Jeremiah Moon, veteran from Floridi's has
three years in the league. I mean he's been around
the Steelers now a couple of years. Outside linebacker, special
teams guy, and wide receiver Montana Lamonious Craig. He also
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was waved injured. He was a rookie, undrafted rookie. So
that's what happened to those guys. The Steelers then signed
three people to bring, you know, to balance the three
people that they got rid of. Dominique Davis, they brought
him back. Now, Dominique Davis is a three year guy,
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from UNC Pembroke defensive tackle. He was the guy who
was released to create a roster spot when the Steelers
signed Chuck Clark. So you know, the moral of the
story is, just because you're waived once doesn't mean you're
gone for good.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Keep your phone on your.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Phone on right, Yeah, and don't I don't know, don't
go to Sharky's and.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right, maybe book a book a nice session in the
gym the next morning, just in case.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, twelve dozen wings or whatever. They also added a rookie,
Kevin Foleshitt who's listed as a tight end, and Lou Nichols,
a running back of first year player from Central Michigan.
I don't none of those acquisitions I don't think are
significant in terms of moving the needle on depth charts
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or any of that stuff. But you know, you do.
You do need to be able to have guys who
provide you with quality enough reps in practice to make
the practice worthwhile, and so those guys get a shot
at that.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Let's bring you up to speed with what happened on
the last practice of the acclamation period on Sunday, Seven
Shots Labs. The defense wins seven shots, So I guess
you could say they win the acclamation portion of things
two games to one.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, I know exactly what the acclamation portion, uh seven
shots trophy actually is made up of, but you I
haven't been able to find out if they're still doing
the dinner rewards. You know, the winner of seven shots.
(09:20):
If if the offense wins, you know, everybody on the
offense plus the coaches get a dinner reward. And if
you're on the losing part of it, everybody on that
unit plus the coaches, they don't get the reward. And
I just want to explain to people that this is
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not a situation where if your side of the ball
loses seven shots, you know you're eating spaghettio out of
a camp. It's not like that. It's more of a
reward for the winners rather than punishment for the losers.
Because you know, the Steelers, Mike Tomlin are very interesting,
have been taking care of the players, their bodies. You
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don't want them. You know, if one the offense or
defense will go on a losing streak in seven shots,
you know, you don't want guys cramping up or whatever
whatever it is, because they've been eating. As I said,
Spaghettio's out of a can, which, by the way, was
a staple of my college dog.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Oh, it's the best staple of my diet still. But
you're talking more like it's lobster versus having a grilled
chicken sandwich.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
No, it might be everybody's eating. You know, there will
be a a fish option, maybe there's some kind of
meat option. But if you win, there might be another option.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Gotcha, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
It's something that.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
You get the bonus, you get everything.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yes, you get a bonus.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yes, some other observations that you made from this practice portion,
and it's something that really has become such a calling
card for the Steelers' labs is why you black. A
rookie this year got his pause on a couple of
passes at the line of scrimmage, and that has more
value if that happens today when the offensive lineman might
have a little bit more saying things with the pads on.
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But that is just something that this coaching staff obviously
is drilling into this defensive line. Coaching into them is
getting those mits up there. If you're not going to
get home pass rush wise affect the play elsewhere. And
their first team All Pro who just seems to be
the Ageless Wonder, embodies that more than anybody. I mean,
Cam Heyward has more passes defended the most defensive backs
in the NFL labs.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, and you know, it's something that the Steelers work on.
I mean not so much in a on field drill,
but I think that it's something that's talked about and
taught probably most in meetings. You know, how to get
in the passing lanes, how to read what's going on
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so that you can get yourself in the passing lanes,
because you know, it's not like the Steelers want these
players to give up on their pass rush and you know,
think that they're the Kenby Matumbo uh there and just
you know, do the little fingerweg no, no, no, no,
those were great commercials. But anyway, uh yeah, it's it's
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just something that you work on to have to add
to your repertoire of weapons or uh you know, things
that you can do. Just to go off on a
short tangent here, it's a lot like how the Steelers
work on, uh blocking kicks Danny Smith with the special teams.
I mean, that is something that the Steelers, if you
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look at it Uh, over the past several years, they're
always near the top of the league in block kicks, uh,
extra points, field goals, you know, punts. So again, these
are not these these things are not happenstance. They just
don't happen. Uh. There's no such thing as spending a
draft pick on a guy who's good at that. I mean,
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you have to teach him.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
That, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
He may have some of the raw physical skills that
once he is taught, then he becomes good at it.
But again, it's not like you know, being a seven
footer in high school and you just stand at the
basket and reject everything. You know, as I said, there's work.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Involved, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And like you were saying, like maybe they don't even
do it that much in college, right, But on the film,
the Steelers scouting department and the coaching staff can identify
some players that are like, you know what, they're gonna
take to that really easily.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
That guy's got athleticism.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I definitely think his handguy coordination is something that we
can toy with and we can coach that into him.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
And boy, they really do.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And you saw harmon you know, you said on Saturday's practice,
there was some muddiness, right, was it Herbig? Was it
Harmon that got his hand on the ball? You and
Persuda both think it was Harmon. I mean, it's another
defensive lineman getting his mits up there. It's really useful
for the Steelers to be able to do that. Hey,
before we wrap things up here in this segment, you
mentioned it the top of the show, how everybody's kind
of chomping at the bit now to put these pads
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on after these four practices. Well, we saw a little
kerfuffle right at the end of practice on Sunday between
Holcomb and McCollum. Kind of that kind of anticipation or
that need to have contact boiled over a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, and that's I'm sure that that's going to be
one of the things that is discussed in terms of
controlling that because scuffles are frowned upon. Fighting is is
is just way more than that. So, uh yeah, I'm
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sure that there were there were talks both in position
meetings and then Mike Tomlin, if you addressed the team,
you know, doing that is strictly verboten. You do not.
They don't want to see that. That is not going
to help you if you're involved in that. In fact,
it'll work the opposite way.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, you know, Hey, you have to control your emotions
on the football field in a regular their season game.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
And first of all, these are your teammates out here.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
These guys are gonna help you win games in the
regular season, so there's that angle to it. But hey,
if this is like Week four and some center is
gets chirping at Holcombe and getting in his head and
being a little physical with him, you respond that way.
You're costing us fifteen yards and you got to instill
those things at this portion of the season.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yes, yes, what you said.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
When we come back, Labs is gonna put on his
meteorologist Tad. He's gonna let us know about the weather
for today's first padded practice, and then we're gonna hear
what coach Tomlin had to say following Sunday's practice, the
final one of the acclamation period. It's PAD day up
at Saint Vincent College and you're listening to the Steelers'
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Tom off Froman and Bob Labriola on the Training Camp
report on this a first padded practice of Steelers Training
Camp for twenty twenty five and labs the past couple
of practices. Mother Nature has kind of rained on the
parade and ended things early for the Steelers over the weekend.
What she got cooked up for us today?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I don't think it's we're gonna get wet. I just don't.
And you know, I think I might be getting numb
to this rainforest conditions we've been having around here since
we got here. Because you know it's listed right now,
there's a heat advisory on according to the National Weather
Service until six o'clock today. But you know, walking over
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here from the dorm. I was thinking, this isn't too bad.
There is some cloud cover which I think always helps,
you know, keeps the sun you know, kind of in
its house a little bit. And right now it's eighty
one degrees seventy nine percent humidity. The due point is
seventy three degrees. So as I said, it's it's if
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you're out there in the on the field, you know,
hitting people with full full uniform, full pads on. I'm
sure it's it's not like a day at the pool.
But it just doesn't seem as bad as it did
to me last Saturday and Sunday so far. And you
know this, as I said, there are some clouds in
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the sky, but they're not that those ugly ones that
you see when you go, oh, one of the sirens
going to go off. They're gonna have to clear the bleachers.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
That's what they've had to do the past couple of practices,
as I mentioned, and they just called it correct like
there was no coming back to the field. It was
it after that because it was towards the end of practice,
like what is do you think that cut off point?
And maybe it means more if the pads are actually
on where they'll go into the dorms, they'll evacuate the field,
they'll go wherever, but then they'll still come back and
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finish practice. Like, at what point do you think is
when they finally decide we've got enough practice in or
we know what we need to wait this out and
still get out there.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, I mean, first of all, there's a lot of
consultation of the radar, and I'm sure that you know
that the radar that the Steelers are using, or the websites,
not that they actually have their own radar machines, but
the websites that they're using, you know, are a little
bit more detailed than the one that I'm using.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Spoiler alert it's us. I actually heard that.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, so you know the things that you have excuse me,
the things that you have to weigh. Okay, if you
have to call it and send them up to the
locker room, when's your next window when you can get
back on the field. How long is it? And then
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you're take into considerations things like rewarming everyone up, how
long does that take? And then you know you're trying
to factor all of that in. Uh, there are other considerations,
you know, you have meetings and dinner, and you know
there's other parts of the day. There are some things
that you can push back or massage, but other things,
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I mean, you get you reach a point of you know,
that's that's the end. I mean, that's this is this
is the drop dead time, and you know it's not
going to be like last year's game. What was that
against Dallas? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Right, I just had a flashback when you mentioned that.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That was a real game and you know they have
to get it in you're on TV, I mean, and
the league handles that. So you know that that's a
situation where where I believe it it's almost pretty much
if there's a window to get it or completed, don't
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wait for that window. And then because the league doesn't
care if you know, the officials have a plane to
catch or something. I mean, you're you're not going, You're
this is your job, Dallas, the visiting team, you gotta
you gotta figure it out. So, but a practice is different.
There are some rules in the CBA in terms of
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how long players are allowed to be quote unquote kept
in a work day, and so if they're sitting in
the locker room for an hour, an hour and a
half that counts towards the workday, So those are things
that you're evaluating too. So it's not as simple as
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it sounds, and it's not as easy as you or
I would make it where you know, three rain drops up,
cancel practice, We're done, you know, let's get on with
our day now. This is I mean, because you can't
make it up. You can't say we'll have two tomorrow exactly. No,
it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
As you heard Labs say.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It doesn't seem like you're gonna get wet today if
you're heading up to training camp practice. That's not a
guarantee though of course up where they practice it can
change drastically. But so far it looked so good. Just
gonna have to deal with maybe a little bit of heat.
Tomin's gonna love that though. This is like Christmas morning
to him. Padded practice. Finally, here let's hear what coach
Tomlin had to say following the acclamation period and following
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Sunday's practice with the media.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
We had another really good day of work, just beat
the weather. But just like the general approach to work
with the group, it's been a really good acclamation period
for us. An opportunity to talk about some cultural things
that we value to really set the stage for how
we were so when we get in past next week, man,
we can just get hyper focused on the ball and
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the technique required to be effective under those circumstances. The
groups has displayed really good conditioning largely, but we have
had some injuries associated with the start of camp. Take
a wide receiver Montana weren't able to finish the day
with a soft tissue injury. Lord Body, Broderick Jones, same thing.
I imagine that those can be characterized as day to
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day DJ Thomas Jones at tight end looked like he
had a more significant injury that's being evaluated next time
we come together. I have some more information in that
regard for you. Some of the guys we're managing limiting
their reps. Sometimes it's in an effort to take care
of them. Sometimes it's an effort to provide additional reps
for others. For developing players, there's really no secret to
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getting better. It's about coming in shape, having the ability
to absorb additional reps, and then us utilizing those opportunities
for improvement and so excited about the work we've done
thus far. The guys get an off day tomorrow, will
rally as a staff, do some preparation for next week,
these next block of days, and continue on with the
team development process.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Questions still, is he kind of the leader in the
clubhouse for that swing tackle role?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Then with him going in there, we're just acclimating.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Certainly, he's a veteran guy that's been around and has
served in that capacity before. But you know, I'm not
assuming anything at this juncture, at this early stage of
development regarding specific roles and specialization.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Baby old passes might be a little bit of an art.
Did did seventy h show that in Iowa? Or has
he picked that up since he's been there?
Speaker 6 (23:36):
He did, But you know, it's something that we really
value culturally. Obviously, I think Cam probably led all the
interior defensive lignment in the league last year. Benton was
also very high. We work at it. He has an
aptitude for it and hopefully it continues. And even more so,
when you talked about coverage guys, you know, not labeling them,
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do you include linebacker like a queen?
Speaker 8 (23:59):
And if Peyton Wilson continues to show that, is that
more of those coverage type guys that need to be
in the.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
The reality is in today's game man, So much of
the matchup component is about guy's ability to cover people,
put dangerous people inside and underneath, and so athletic linebackers
are an asset. And certainly Patrick Queen and Peyton Wilson
men are very capable from a linebacker perspective, and so yes,
I would include them as as significant components of the
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coverage unit.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Like Eckles had an interception today, speak to the energy
that he's brought in what your.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Impressions are of from early I like Echoles a lot,
and he's a hard working guy.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
He's a professional.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Certainly we've competed against him in the past, not only
as a defender but as a core teamer.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
That's a veteran guy.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Man that brings that energy every day and so he's
made some plays and it's reasonable to expect that to continue.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Another veteran guy on the other side, Scotty Miller. What
does he add to this wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Room versatility, He knows all the spots, he's high conditioned,
he's very competitive, he's a been there, done that guy,
and so there's a lot of value in his presence.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
Mike, you have a lot of movie pieces on both
sides of the ball. Different alignments that both sides are trying.
Are used coaches collaborating to match certain things up or
is it just each side is going with certain things
that they're working on at different times.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
You know, it's both.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
There's certain certainly collaboration because it's just a major component
of the team development. We've got to be cooperative workers
in terms of our installs and what people are ready for.
If we don't, we waste snaps and waste days. But
it's not exclusive in terms of our planning. There's certainly
some independent component from a unit perspective regarding install and
what we're doing.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Can you send your players anticipating and getting the pads
on and getting ready for that next step?
Speaker 6 (25:46):
There's no doubt, man, they're like racehorses. That's just the
next step in this thing, and they're ready.
Speaker 10 (25:53):
Do you have a most anticipated matchup, whether it's in
those backs on backers or oline d line one on ones?
Speaker 6 (25:58):
You know, I like I like versus Peyton Wilson and routes.
You know, Kenny g is on a really good aptitude
from a route running standpoint out of the backfield. Peyton
Wilson in the second year is a guy that that's
working to be dominating that area. It's just one of
those matchups that has my attention.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
The coach reference to your running backs. Of course, we
know what Warren can do in addition.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
To the rookie Johnson, but what about that kennep gangwell
and even a trade sermon.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
You know, Kenny is experienced and versatile. That's why we
acquired him not only as a runner but also as
a kick returner in the special teams game. I know
less about Trey, certainly I know his college resume. He's
a highly conditioned and ready guy. He's a professional in
terms of his approach to business, so I'm excited about
seeing what he brings next week as well.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
We were able to.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Talk to Chuck Park today for the first time.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Just what does he add to this group? And also,
I mean he.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Gone off the plane and went straight to practice on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Does that impress you at all?
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Been really impressive with his ability to digest schematics in
a short period of time and execute defense. But I'm
not completely surprised by it because we've competed against him
over the years, and I just know he has a
reputation of a really solid professional. I think he's displayed
that the short period of time he's been here.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Wait, can you.
Speaker 11 (27:16):
Learn much about Derek Harmon from these four.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
Days or do you really need to get the pads
on to have any kind of sense of where he is?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Community's Brookie Year.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
The big Man game is played in pads and I'm
looking forward to seeing him and others under those circumstances.
Not to discount what he's done, but that's such a
major component of his job description.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Mike Kayleb has talked about improving on his receiving ability
in passcro since since he was drafted into working meet camp.
How have you seen him kind of embrace that challenge
and shrive to improve on those areas?
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Man, he's a willing worker, but you know he needs
to improve in all areas all young people do. We've
yet to play in pads and obviously, regarding his position,
that's a major component. And so it's an incomplete body
of work, but it's an incomplete body of work for
all of us at this juncture, and so this week
is big in terms of some of those things. Blitz
pick up is something that's really evaluated in pads. Certainly,
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he's been working to develop and hone his technique, but
the physicality component of something is something that that's very
difficult to simulate.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Coach tommin following Sunday's practice, the final of the acclamation period,
and you heard it in some of those answers. You know, yeah,
some of these guys their technique is good and their
willingness to work is good, and they can check those
boxes now, but until we get those pads on, we're
not truly going to know what we got. You're going
to finally start to see that today with practice starting
at one fifty five when Labs.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
And I come back.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
It's not all sunshine and roses in Steelers paradise. There
is some injury concerns when it comes to that offensive line.
So we'll get into that group and we'll hear from
Steelers second year man Troy Fatanu. That's on the way
on the training camp report on Fox Sports Pittsburgh nine
seventy am and the Steelers audio.
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Speaker 11 (29:30):
Lads.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I think it's fair to say that there was a
decent amount of pressure on the Steelers offensive line. There
is a decent amount of pressure on the Steelers offensive
line this year to individually and as a group, take
a nice step forward so this team can have the
success that they imagine that they can have. And I'm
not saying that it's panic time or panic mode time
or anything like that, but there have been some injury
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blows dealt to that O line. Early, Ciamalu has yet
to practice, appearing on the non football related injury list,
and then after Sunday's final acclamation period, we saw Roderick
Jones go down and he is now day to day.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's never good when that kind of
stuff happens to a team. Certainly, you know the way
that the Steelers roster is configurated. You know, certainly the
usage of two number one picks of the previous three
drafts on offensive tackles was obviously a commitment to improving
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that offensive line. And you know, Broderck Jones going into
his third season, Troy Filotano going into a second, you know,
the team has every reasonable expectation that you know, these
guys are now going to start, you know, being the
kinds of players that they were drafted to be. You know,
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and when when you're in see and then when you
make those picks like that, you're you're kind of counting
on them too. I mean, you don't have that many picks.
He's seven rounds in the draft. And so you know,
the Steelers didn't draft any offensive linemen this year. It's
not that they ignored it or anything, but you know,
you have, again, you have two tackles. Number one, your
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center is a number two that you drafted last year.
You know, you've made a commitment with draft picks, draft
capital to that to that unit. And so if you
have injuries to that unit, especially the front line part
of that unit, it's I don't know, it's concerning now.
(31:38):
Certainly the injury to Broderick Jones could be very really nothing.
He could be on the field today. He could be
on the field tomorrow. I don't know, but I mentioned
him in particular because you know, Broderick Jones was a
left tackle in college. He didn't play a lot in
college in terms of me in terms of games, and
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he was a young person chronologically as well when he
entered the NFL. But because Dan Moore Junior couldn't play
any other position but left tackle, Broderick Jones was moved
to right tackle. I wouldn't say he was a bust
or a washout, but certainly they traded up to get him.
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You would like to get more from a guy you
traded up to pick than what the Steelers saw from
Broderick Jones' first two seasons. So now you're starting to
get into you know, we've talked about this before, the
critical area of a guy's rookie contract. You know, it's
not going to be that long. And I don't mean
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by weeks or anything, but it's not that long into
the future. The Steelers are gonna have to make a
decision on Broderick Jones. Do we want to exercise this
fifty year option. And I don't know if anybody's been
paying attention to what's going on around the league. But
offensive tackles make a lot of money, a lot. Did
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that come through correctly?
Speaker 5 (33:07):
When I said a lot lot, you should say one
more time?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, okay, I saw Max Starks. What was it today? Yeah? No,
it was yesterday in the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
They all blurred together up there and one long day.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yes, I said, did you hear what happened to rush
On Slater who was a left tackle for the Los
Angeles Chargers? And his eyes got big right away. He
thought I was going to say he was injured. I said, no,
he signed a four year contract extension one hundred and
wait a minute, I'm gonna get you the numbers here
while I yeah, rush On Slater one hundred and fourteen
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million dollars on a four year extension. Twenty eight no,
twenty nine million signing bones. So that's what it costs,
you know. So you know, fans like to think we'll
go out and get one. You know, they don't exist,
you know, the guys you can go out and get.
It's not like it's not even the salary cap money
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that would be ridiculous. Nobody had. And you know, there's
no such thing as too many, you know, teams don't
have too many of these kind of players. A lot
of teams don't have enough. So yeah, the Broderick Jones thing,
to me is a little concerning, but it's concerning to
me from the outside, not knowing what a lot of
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other people might know. The Isaac Camalu thing. He is
a veteran. I you know, for me, there's nothing that
Isaac camal And needs to show me a training camp, agreed,
you know, if he's not almost you know, and I
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hate to because this isn't the way it's looked upon
by the people in the business, the football business. But
to me, the only thing that can happen to Isaac
camal in this training campus something bad. I mean, it's
not like he's gonna develop some other skill or show
oh wow, this is something else he can do, or
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you know, he's already I guess you could call him
the best overall offensive lineman on the roster. Let's just
keep him healthy and get him ready for the regular season.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Now, on the other side of that offensive line at
the tackle position, Troy Fatanu injured all of last year.
For the most part, I got to see him for
a little bit in that Denver game and now he's
trying to work his way back from that injury, and
we're gonna hear some of his comments following practice on
Sunday and just the second Labs. But before we get
to him, the coaching staff for the Steelers last year
obviously had a ton of faith in this guy. He
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was injured throughout most of this training camp portion last year,
and they still put him into that Denver game in
front of Roger Jones when he was healthy. That's rare
for the Steelers to treat somebody like that, especially missing
so much time ramping up to that. And now I
just get the sense, and I talked to a lot
of people around there, and I'm sure you're gonna echo
this that they're just really high on the ceiling for
the guy.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah. I mean, and and Troy Filtano. He showed enough
in training camp for the Steelers to have that kind
of faith in him. And so, you know, I think
that the the the off season thought with him was
all along, Uh he's you know, get the nap ready
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and uh, there's every confidence that he's going to be, uh,
you know, a quality starting NFL right tackle. So you know,
with him, it's and let me say this. As the
off season progressed, everything seemed to be, uh, all systems
were go in terms of him showing up here in
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good health, and for all I have heard he had
he did that and so you know, he's a guy
now who you know he needs reps to hone his
craft and then those kind of things. But I think
that in terms of can he play that question, I
don't think there's any real question about that. It's he
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needs to develop and he needs to stay healthy and
that position will be fine. I think for maybe a decade.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
When Troy Faltana was coming off the practice field on Sunday,
he caught up with the media and he started with
what you were talking about the knee and how he's
coming along with his rehab of that and getting back
to full speed and.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Being able to trust it every single day every rep
that I take, Obviously.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
He gets more comfortable and more comfortable. Obviously there's a.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
Lot that I still need to get back into doing,
but yeah, I feel that's probably like the last checkpoint
until we go out there and play for him.
Speaker 10 (37:47):
So Troy even seems to be throwing a lot more
alignments as you guys, especially early in camp, what has
that been. What has that challenge been like for you
guys as a unit to understand, you know, when they're
going when they're challenging this gap versus that gap, but
needed to communicate.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Yeah, So the big thing right now is that, like,
obviously we're trying to prepare for a season, but we're
playing the Steelers every single day, like we're playing against
our defense. So we're making up rules that are just
specific to camp and obviously going into the season, that'll
help us knowing.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
That we've seen these fronts before.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
So when the bullets are flying, like we'll be we'll
be very prepared.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
That's something we talk about every day.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
I joke around and say I'm like six or five,
and everyone always laughs at me, but I mean, yeah,
won't change. Yeah, that's what I tell them, just to
look it up. But yeah, that's an inside joke. We
all talk about every single day how short I am,
or make fun of Zach a lot. But yeah, I
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mean it's there's nothing we can do about that, so
obviously we have to be able to make up for
that in other ways.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
So you guys experienced line either order than Isaac, how
do you work around the.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Kind of it's football at the end of the days.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
That we can do that.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
I can't go back in time and wish I'd never
got hurt, And really nothing we can do other than
learn from the coaches and learn from the experience. When
we got the best defensive line we get to go
against every single day. So going into the season, obviously
it'll help prepare us for.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Sundays drawings.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Didn't take me kind of add to that.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
How much as what the heat of the late aftercan practices?
How much is that kind of camp things up? But
for where are you guys kind of frustrated.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
With each other?
Speaker 7 (39:36):
Yeah, you could tell guys are a little bit more
on as yesterday obviously with the heat. But I mean,
this is something that coach Tomlin planned for. This is
something he told us before we went on break to
be prepared for. I was back home in Vegas. It
was like one hundred and ten degrees very single day,
So obviously it wasn't that crazy, but the humidity is
a lot different out here.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
But something I got at used to I can't. I can't.
I was about to say something I can't.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Complain about it knowing that it's something that I'm gonna
be playing in for the next couple of months, so well,
you see any benefits from it too, though, like having
to be out here in this humidity and you.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Know, I mean you guys are playing in Jacksonville that first. Yeah, yeah,
is it gonna help. I mean there's gonna be one
o'clock games, Like, we can't control.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
What time we play, so obviously being out in the
hottest part of the day is gonna prepare us for anything.
I mean today it was It's crazy how bipolar this
weather is here, and it's like raining ten minutes and.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Then the next ten minutes it's like how it was. Yes,
I don't even know.
Speaker 7 (40:35):
How it was, but yeah, it's it's preparing us for sure,
and obviously getting us in shape, and we've got to
make sure that we're all hydrated, especially you guys too.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I'm sure you guys feel it as well.
Speaker 10 (40:46):
But yeah, if there's a primary teaching point that Pat
Myers had with you just through the early parts of GEM,
what's the biggest thing we felt used.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
One with you to personally, Yeah, I think just settling in,
like my feet especially like obviously missed a lot of
reps so.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Came back.
Speaker 7 (41:06):
I think got some happy feet, just moving them, just
to move them, but that's about it.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
I think once my feet are good and usually everything
else is good.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
So there's reps here and there that depending on who
I'm blocking, who's rushing against me, things can get a
little crazy just because I'm trying to find get back
into that rhythm. But once I do, I'm starting to
feel better. Especially going into bads, it changes a lot
of things.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Got more to what's his coaches kind of like what
does he challenging.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
I would say all three of them, him, coach Isaac
on the tail. You know they're they all have different
coaching styles and.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
We all know what to expect from them.
Speaker 7 (41:51):
So I mean, I think he just makes sure that
he sets the table with this technique that he wants to.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Do and then we kind of just choose from from
being here.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Steelers offensive lineman Troy Fatanu after practice on Sunday, someone
I'm really excited to keep an eye on this year,
had his rookie season robbed by injury, Hoping for the
best of health for him and for him to truly
realize his great potential in the NFL. Starting this season
when Labs and I come back to start the second hour.
We're going to look at the defensive side of the ball,
(42:22):
look at the secondary and the safety position in particular,
and hear from new Steeler Chuck Clark, who spoke to
the media for the first time Sunday following practice. Also
going to be joined by Chris Hoak a little bit
later in the show. So excited for Hoki to sit
down with Labs and myself in the second hour. You're
listening to the Training Camp Report on Fox Sports Pittsburgh
nine seventy am in the Steelers Audio Network.
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