November 27, 2025 • 22 mins
Welcome back to The Vikings Tailgate - Presented by Ticketmaster - The official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings. It’s Thanksgiving and host Cy Amundson is cooking for all the fans. As everyone is enjoying the holiday, Cy's serving up some of the best bits from this season. Seeing as how the Lions, Packers, Bengals and Ravens all play today, we figured we'd look at the curse of Bobby Lane, Chad and Cy getting heckled in Wisconsin, the tortured fans of Cincinnati, and one of the wildest endings in Vikings History. All of this and more is in Episode 65 of The Vikings Tailgate - Presented by Ticketmaster - The official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Recket recket for come.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, everybody, Welcome into the Vikings Tailgate, brought to you
by Ticketmaster. I'm your host, Siaminson, and Hey, it's Thanksgiving,
and we are thankful for all of you listening to
the show all year. We've loved the episodes we've done,
and since four of the teams we've played already this
year are playing today, we thought we would give you
(00:32):
a little best of talking about each of those teams
on today's show. That means we're gonna start with the Lions.
They've been on Thanksgiving forever, just like Zach Martina has
been on this show forever. Here's Zach and I talking
about the curse of Bobby Lane and the growing cockiness
of Lions fans, ladies and gentlemen. The great Zach Martina
(00:56):
and Zach, I need to start with something we touched.
I think the first time you were ever on the show.
I saw this article and it was talking about all
the weirdest stuff that's ever happened in Detroit and with
the Lions, and on and on and on, and one
of the things in there, it's the Bobby Lane curse.
Oh yeah, In nineteen fifty eight, the Lions trade.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Bobby Lane to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
To Pittsburgh, and he's a star, right he is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He is the Patrick Mahomes of his time.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
They trade him and he places a fifty year curse
on the Detroit Lions and it runs nineteen fifty eight.
It's supposed to end in two thousand and eight, and.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It was adjusted for inflation. So that's it lasts. It's
gone gone, And what a few years longer than that.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well, here's what I would say is super interesting. The
last year of the curse, your team went oh and
sixteen and in that fifty years you lost more games
than any team in the entire league. And you end
on an ohen sixteen. Then you got Stafford yep, and
now you're moving forward and now out of the It's
almost like it's real. How real is it to Detroit fans?
(02:05):
Because you went there, then you got Stafford, you kind
of got out of it a little bit. Stafford led
to golf with led to all these changes. Dan, here
we go and now you are a multi year championship
contending team that people are picking at the beginning of
the season. Do you buy this? Are you all in
on the Bobby Lane curse. And now that it's over,
(02:26):
you're off and running.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I would be hard pressed to find a Detroit Lions
fan that does not believe in the Bobby Lane curse.
Because we needed a reason. We needed a reason that
we were like, okay, well this is this can't be
just the organization. This can't just be our team is
it's it's in the universe, it's intergalactic, it's whatever words
you want to use. But it was at least a
(02:49):
reason we could say, well, yeah, but you know, we've
got this, Like I mean, Calvin Johnson was on the
team before Matthew Stafford, and he was part of that
oh and sixteen team. To be part of a fifty
year stretch where you are losing more games than any
other team in the franchise, you have to have a
reason because it doesn't make sense when you have players
(03:09):
of that caliber.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So now that you're this new team and my team
is coming off, you know, from a fan standpoint, one
of the more difficult losses in the Kevin O'Connell era, right,
And I think that just that sentence speaks to how
impressive the coaching staff has been. I always use the
(03:31):
example you can use a ton of them, but winning
a game with Josh Dobbs calling the plays into the
headset in Atlanta, like this team has finally arrived in
the place where it felt like adversity steam rolled them
against the Chargers, and we're not quite where we expected
we would be. Is there any is there any part
(03:52):
of your little fan brain that feels that you might
be vulnerable to a desperate team coming in and punching
you in the face.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Let me, let me go ahead and show you how
little my fan brain is. I'm not going to take
your bait. I'm not going to take your bait of
insulting me and coming at me saying I have a
little brain. I have a size eight head, all right.
When I played football in high school, they had do
special order a helmet. All right, When you knock on
this skull, it is not hollow. It's not little SI,
thank you, and I it is not. It is a
(04:24):
big brain. It is a big old brain. But I
don't I'm I mean, I'm always nervous because I've been
hurt in the past, but I feel really good coming
off of the bye. I feel really good coming off
of the bye. Who you'll come into at a home game.
No less, you know what, I'm just realizing.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
In the history of you being on the show. The
first season, we were very good with Kirk and you
were having that season where you beat Green Bay at
the end of the year and you were like turning around.
You had the major season before the season. Second season,
you had a really great year. We didn't have a
reason to feel bad because we had a quarter back
situation that we were battling through. Third year, we're both great.
(05:05):
We play each other. It sucks that we lost to
you at the end of the season, but we're both great.
We're both feeling good. This is the first year that
there's some angst in this conversation between you and I.
This is the first year where you're still doing well
and we're not doing the things we want to be doing.
And I gotta tell you, I hate it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I buddy, I'll tell you the angst is all on
one side.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I understand you have.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
An ad I've never noticed the attitude and tell my
team is not where I need it. It's only fitting.
If we're going to talk Lions, we should probably talk
about their opponents, the Packers. Uh, let's do a clip
of Chad and I discussing one of our most memorable
moments from our friendship from being on stage together. This
(05:49):
is the time Chad and I spent a weekend in
Appleton right before Brett Favre's first game against the Packers
as a Viking. I'm your host, Siam and sinceitting across
from me as a guy who criticizes my intro every
week with his little smirk. Ladies and gentlemen, the co host,
Chad Daniels, Hello, everybody. I don't know what's happening, but
(06:14):
the amount of trash talk early and often from Packer
fans is hitting me at a aggressive level.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Sure, I'm just gonna throw this out there. I believe
that the Packers and the Eagles should get all their
primetime games taken for the next seven years because that
was the worst game of football I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Here's the thing, man, Like I am a little riled
up because like I don't really have the AMMO to
go back right. You know, you can't quite go back
as hard so what I've been doing, and I want
you to tell me what you think about this. I'm
not engaging at all. I'm only I'm not silent treating.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, silent treating.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No, not quite. They trash talk me. If any of
the Packer fans trash talk me, I just send them
back a fact about their state that I think is absurd,
and then I no matter what they say after that,
then they get silent treatment. For example, somebody said some
really negative things to me, some heavy duty trash talk,
(07:13):
and all I wrote back was Wisconsin once had two
local towns argue over who would get a thirty foot
tall fiberglass badger statue. So a Milwaukee resident legally changed
his name to Count Justinian de mort wore a cape daily,
slept in a coffin shaped bed, and petitioned the mayor
(07:35):
to declare his birthday Vampire Appreciation Day. And I'd still
rather hang with him than talk football with you. That's
the sort of stuff that I'm sending back.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Well, that's a smart way to do it. I mean,
there are a lot of those. I've been to Wisconsin
several times, so have you to perform live stand up comedy.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's actually the origin of our friendship. Know, I don't
know how many people know that our friendship the birth birth,
but I think the growth of.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Our flourishing when it flourished.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
You want to tell it, you want to tell the people.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, we were in Appleton, Wisconsin, which is just south
of Green Bay, and we were working at the Skyline
Comedy Cafe.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And what year do we think this is? Back in
twenty Well it was the far of year. What year
was far two thousand and nine?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Okay, so we're there and we're doing We used to
do this decathlon thing where we would do ten events
that were somewhat athletic. Right, it was like wiffleball, home run,
derby point contest. Yeah, just stuff like that that wasn't
the actual game game, but it was derivative of it.
So we would do that and then on the and
(08:43):
then we were playing cribbage.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That's funny how the athleticism started with the athletics and
whittled down to let's play cards and move toothpicks.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well toward towards the end of the week, you don't
have access, right, You can't like quick run to the
ry YMCA. What you can do is, right before a
set is you can put on a Vikings Brett Favre
Jersey like you did. And then I heard you get introduced,
and then I heard just thick booing without you having
(09:15):
said anything.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It was right before the first game that Brett Fav
played the Packers as a Viking. Was the It was
the Saturday night before that was going to happen, I
think on a Monday.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And the people were I'm gonna go with less than
pleased yeah, And so that's when I thought to myself, like, yeah,
I think that he and I have a pretty similar brain.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So I went up on stage. Cliff, who ran the club,
pulled the lights up because and I quote he was
pretty sure somebody was going to throw a glass at
me because I was doing the Hulk Hogan like bump
up up, like hand to the ear motion, over and over.
And then you ran to the booth and as I
(09:59):
was going up, played the Monday night football theme music.
That's the one thing that I remember. And here we
are years later with the team letting us be involved, which.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That's right, and our friendship barely hanging on.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Jay the producer just said that people through pool balls
on the field at players during that game. When Farv
went back there for the first time and had signs
comparing Farv to Fredo from The Godfather.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
So I knew it was you. I knew it was you.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I didn't get the pool balls, but you could. You know,
you could feel that that would probably be the reaction
in that room night, because I believe Appleton is where
the opposing teams stay, so Appleton they're not just pack Evans.
I think they feel like they're really a part of it.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, because I went to a Vike's Packer game Lambeau
and Brett Farav was still the quarterback, Dante Culpepper was
for US. Dante Culpepper was getting murdered. I'm saying, right up, murdered.
So I start freaking out. I'm screaming down the field
and the section around me right just a couple rows
(11:09):
started chanting all before I know it, within the minute,
the entire stadium. Here's the crazy thing about this stadium.
They don't have to have witnessed what happened. They just
know if somebody sends out the bat signal, we have
to join in. And so this entire stadium was chanting that.
(11:32):
And then we were at the bar afterwards back in Appleton,
because we were staying at the same hotel that the
Vikes were staying at, and we're at the bar right
next door and then this Packer fan comes in. He goes,
oh man, somebody, somebody from Minnesota really got it tonight,
because everybody was chanting. And my buddy goes, he's right here,
this guy. And I really didn't even do anything to
(11:54):
deserve it other than yelling, because remember when Farv and
even even Rogers that whole thing. The Packers got a
lot of calls. They were the chiefs. Yeah, they were
the chiefs of the early two thousands, so it was tough.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
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to the Vikings tailgate once again. I'm your host, Simonson.
We're doing a little best of on Thanksgiving here. The
other two teams that we've discussed the season that are
playing today are the Ravens and Bengals. I live in
Bengals Country, and earlier this year, Chad and I broke
down the tortured nature of the Bengals franchise. The Cincinnati
(13:11):
Bengals are coming to town and joining me to talk
everything about the city and the team. Is the one,
the only Chad Daniels.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Hi, everybody, BurrH. I'm excited. I'm gonna tell you something.
I'm excited for the game, and I'm excited that we
don't recap games on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
What a wonderful thing for us that we're always looking forward?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
We got it, Hey, brother, There's a reason that the
windshield is bigger than the rearview mirror. You feel me.
We gotta look forward. That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Here on I love that. Actually, I mean, I know
you did it in the hillbilly voice, but I love it. Normally,
normally we do the thing where we kind of dive
into both sides of what we like and dislike about it.
But I tell you, I live in Cincinnati. We love
the city, we love the comedy there, and because they're
team is a tortured like they I identify with them
(14:05):
as it. There's not many organizations that you can really
look at them and go, man, you just you've got
that same Charlie Brown vibe getting the football pulled out
from you in the fan base. So I like, yeah,
I'm gonna have a hard time saying anything negative about
the Bengals or their fans.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Well, it's interesting because when you're a Vikings fan, you go,
you know, what, this happened. Bad things happen to us,
and then when we watch the Bengals, we go, they
did it to themselves. It's a different attitude for the
same situation. My girlfriend said, we have a lot of
friends in Cincinnati, how do you cheer for And you go,
(14:43):
I'm not going to listen to that, No, because we
cheer just as hard and we make fun of them
just as hard when we beat them.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's absolutely correct. The U there is a really like
when I first moved here and you start meeting a
lot of Bengals fans, one of the first things you
learn is that they were one of if not the
but one of the last teams in the NFL to
get an actual website. And the standard joke and it's
a dad joke, but it, dude, it rocks. Everybody goes yes,
(15:12):
because we had a hard time string in three w's together.
God dang, that's a good.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh, that is a really good joke. I think it
is actually because it's harder to type on a keyboard
when you have blisters from playing the banjo. They're so
close to Kentucky. The airport is in Kentucky. They call
it Cincinnati, and it's in a different.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
State when you're down here, like when we move down
here as a Viking fan, the Cleveland rivalry, it's very
Green Bay ish. Yeah, there's this all time moment in
Bengals history. It's like nineteen eighty nine. I think they're
playing the Seattle Seahawks and an official made of call
(15:54):
that the fans did not care for. And the fans
it's December, so they start balling up snowballs and heaving
them onto the field, and the Seahawks are like, we're
not playing with you throwing stuff at it, so they
will and the officials have to pause the game. And
I love the moments when when a coach when they
(16:14):
have to hand him the PA system and be like, coach,
can you please get a hold of these people? It's
so good. So they hand the coach at the time,
Sam Whitch, He gets the microphone and to the whole stadium.
He goes, will the next person that sees anybody throw
anything onto the field point them out and get them
(16:35):
out of here. You don't live in Cleveland, you live
in Cincinnati. Imagine just being in like Grand Rapids, Like
it's yeah, you guys are pretty much it's very similar.
But yeah, that's an all time moment.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That is like a dad just going like, hey, you're
acting like your brother right now, knock it off.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And I do feel that against the state of Wisconsin,
and I don't. It's so funny because when you cut
the top half of both states off, you could just
drive across them and it's nearly indistinguishable.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I've always said without professional football, it's the same.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
State pretty similar. I think there's a cholesterol difference due
to a cheese product. Like somehow we were like our
state was like, we'll make milk, you make cheese. I
don't know how we decided that, but there's certainly a
heart clog issue there.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I think we were like, hey, come get all moldy milk. Yeah,
you can have our moldy milk.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
The Bengals opponent today is going to be the Baltimore Ravens,
And of course, when we talked Ravens earlier this season,
we talked about one of the craziest finishes in Vikings history.
Listen to Chad and I break it down here, let's
shift to the Ravens. You know, we do a little
bit of history on this show, and this matchup also
(17:56):
has one of my in addition to a crazy weird
stat one of my favorite history moments. I was at
Hilarities in Cleveland, sure for a week of shows, the
Great Hilarities opening for the Great Jake Johansson's this pretty
early in my career, huh. And I sat at a
bar all by myself and watched the twenty thirteen Ravens
(18:18):
Vikings game and if you recall, we lost it. But
that was that absurd game where there was such horrible
snow that the field crew had to plow the field
at halftime, and in the last two minutes of that game,
everything goes nuts. Two minutes and seven seconds left, Dennis
(18:38):
Pitta scores a touchdown. The Ravens take the lead. Then
Boom Vikings get the ball back. Two plays later, blast
from the pass Toby Gerhardt Toby Gearhart forty one yards
for a touchdown. Ravens get the ball back, run the
kickoff back for a touchdown. They retake the lead. Then
(18:59):
Corderioatterson scores on a seventy nine yard touchdown pass for
the Vikings. They take the lead, and then Marlon Brown
scores on a nine yard touchdown with only nine seconds left.
The Ravens win. I haven't seen every football game in
the history of football. I don't have that rolodex like
our friend Alex Schubert, but that has to be about
the craziest two minutes in the history of professional football.
(19:21):
And it was in the snow. Guys were sliding, guys
were diving.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
That's what made those plays possible is that in the snow,
once you get going forward, it is so hard because
nobody can catch you because everybody's trying to cut and
make up ground on you. Now you say this is
the greatest professional game, probably in the snow. I'm gonna
throw one little amateur at you nineteen ninety one Cleveland
(19:44):
Elementary School field. I remember a Fritz Skinner going to
Sam Skinner for ninety nine yard touchdown, and then I
remember immediately Eric Johnson throwing a bomb to excuse me,
but yours truly in the snow, high stepping in my
sore l boots for the touchdown for the win.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Now, I'm not saying it was the greatest professional snow
game of all time. I think people get really mad
at me for that. It's in the conversation for craziest
two minutes.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh yeah, crazy is two minutes snow doubt.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Can we just take a pause since he came up
in this memory for me and talk about Cordero Patterson
that game, he gets five receptions, one hundred and forty
one yards and a touchdown. I was thinking about him
the other day. I think it was tough to come
to our team, a team that we were the team
of a mad Rashad and the team of Chris Carter
(20:35):
and the team of Randy Moss. So you think of
wide receivers in a very specific way. And he came
into the league and not only was he not that
type of guy, but he was so before his time
in terms of positionless football. I mean, he goes on,
he sets the NFL record for kick returns. Right, he's
like a four time All Pro. He wins, he goes
(20:55):
and he wins a Super Bowl with Bill Belichick, and
you can't be done and play for Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Right of course.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And then he has this amazing second act to his
career where he gets to Atlanta and they go, you're
a running back and then everybody goes, oh, man, he's
so good at running back.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
In retrospect, he's probably the most underdiscussed unique vite. Him
and Percy Harvin are kind of like the great what
ifs for me if they'd have been in a different
time period or gotten to do what they did late
Early Patterson.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Is the faith no More of football, right, faith no more?
What is it? It's it. They were Limp Biscuit before
Limp Biscuit, but nobody knew where to put them, and
so they didn't get the notoriety that they should have gotten.
And then Limp Biscuit goes on with Fred Durst to
like smash its and you're like, from my generation, you go,
(21:51):
this is a faith no more ripoff. And so that's
the same way I feel about Patterson. Sometimes people get
to the level they want to get to just a
little bit too early, and nobody knows where to put them.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Imagine, yeah, that's a great point. Imagine if Cordero Patterson,
if you handed him to Kyle Shanahan the same year
that Kyle Shanahan got Deebo Samuel. Sure, you're like, oh,
a giant Deebo Samuel. Mm hmmm, huge Cordero heads on
this show. Chat. That's going to do it for us
this week. Thank you to all of you for listening
(22:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, everybody, Welcome into the Vikings Tailgate, brought to you
by Ticketmaster. I'm your host, Siaminson, and Hey, it's Thanksgiving,
and we are thankful for all of you listening to
the show all year. We've loved the episodes we've done,
and since four of the teams we've played already this
year are playing today, we thought we would give you
(00:32):
a little best of talking about each of those teams
on today's show. That means we're gonna start with the Lions.
They've been on Thanksgiving forever, just like Zach Martina has
been on this show forever. Here's Zach and I talking
about the curse of Bobby Lane and the growing cockiness
of Lions fans, ladies and gentlemen. The great Zach Martina
(00:56):
and Zach, I need to start with something we touched.
I think the first time you were ever on the show.
I saw this article and it was talking about all
the weirdest stuff that's ever happened in Detroit and with
the Lions, and on and on and on, and one
of the things in there, it's the Bobby Lane curse.
Oh yeah, In nineteen fifty eight, the Lions trade.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Bobby Lane to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
To Pittsburgh, and he's a star, right he is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He is the Patrick Mahomes of his time.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
They trade him and he places a fifty year curse
on the Detroit Lions and it runs nineteen fifty eight.
It's supposed to end in two thousand and eight, and.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It was adjusted for inflation. So that's it lasts. It's
gone gone, And what a few years longer than that.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well, here's what I would say is super interesting. The
last year of the curse, your team went oh and
sixteen and in that fifty years you lost more games
than any team in the entire league. And you end
on an ohen sixteen. Then you got Stafford yep, and
now you're moving forward and now out of the It's
almost like it's real. How real is it to Detroit fans?
(02:05):
Because you went there, then you got Stafford, you kind
of got out of it a little bit. Stafford led
to golf with led to all these changes. Dan, here
we go and now you are a multi year championship
contending team that people are picking at the beginning of
the season. Do you buy this? Are you all in
on the Bobby Lane curse. And now that it's over,
(02:26):
you're off and running.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I would be hard pressed to find a Detroit Lions
fan that does not believe in the Bobby Lane curse.
Because we needed a reason. We needed a reason that
we were like, okay, well this is this can't be
just the organization. This can't just be our team is
it's it's in the universe, it's intergalactic, it's whatever words
you want to use. But it was at least a
(02:49):
reason we could say, well, yeah, but you know, we've
got this, Like I mean, Calvin Johnson was on the
team before Matthew Stafford, and he was part of that
oh and sixteen team. To be part of a fifty
year stretch where you are losing more games than any
other team in the franchise, you have to have a
reason because it doesn't make sense when you have players
(03:09):
of that caliber.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So now that you're this new team and my team
is coming off, you know, from a fan standpoint, one
of the more difficult losses in the Kevin O'Connell era, right,
And I think that just that sentence speaks to how
impressive the coaching staff has been. I always use the
(03:31):
example you can use a ton of them, but winning
a game with Josh Dobbs calling the plays into the
headset in Atlanta, like this team has finally arrived in
the place where it felt like adversity steam rolled them
against the Chargers, and we're not quite where we expected
we would be. Is there any is there any part
(03:52):
of your little fan brain that feels that you might
be vulnerable to a desperate team coming in and punching
you in the face.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Let me, let me go ahead and show you how
little my fan brain is. I'm not going to take
your bait. I'm not going to take your bait of
insulting me and coming at me saying I have a
little brain. I have a size eight head, all right.
When I played football in high school, they had do
special order a helmet. All right, When you knock on
this skull, it is not hollow. It's not little SI,
thank you, and I it is not. It is a
(04:24):
big brain. It is a big old brain. But I
don't I'm I mean, I'm always nervous because I've been
hurt in the past, but I feel really good coming
off of the bye. I feel really good coming off
of the bye. Who you'll come into at a home game.
No less, you know what, I'm just realizing.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
In the history of you being on the show. The
first season, we were very good with Kirk and you
were having that season where you beat Green Bay at
the end of the year and you were like turning around.
You had the major season before the season. Second season,
you had a really great year. We didn't have a
reason to feel bad because we had a quarter back
situation that we were battling through. Third year, we're both great.
(05:05):
We play each other. It sucks that we lost to
you at the end of the season, but we're both great.
We're both feeling good. This is the first year that
there's some angst in this conversation between you and I.
This is the first year where you're still doing well
and we're not doing the things we want to be doing.
And I gotta tell you, I hate it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I buddy, I'll tell you the angst is all on
one side.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I understand you have.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
An ad I've never noticed the attitude and tell my
team is not where I need it. It's only fitting.
If we're going to talk Lions, we should probably talk
about their opponents, the Packers. Uh, let's do a clip
of Chad and I discussing one of our most memorable
moments from our friendship from being on stage together. This
(05:49):
is the time Chad and I spent a weekend in
Appleton right before Brett Favre's first game against the Packers
as a Viking. I'm your host, Siam and sinceitting across
from me as a guy who criticizes my intro every
week with his little smirk. Ladies and gentlemen, the co host,
Chad Daniels, Hello, everybody. I don't know what's happening, but
(06:14):
the amount of trash talk early and often from Packer
fans is hitting me at a aggressive level.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Sure, I'm just gonna throw this out there. I believe
that the Packers and the Eagles should get all their
primetime games taken for the next seven years because that
was the worst game of football I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Here's the thing, man, Like I am a little riled
up because like I don't really have the AMMO to
go back right. You know, you can't quite go back
as hard so what I've been doing, and I want
you to tell me what you think about this. I'm
not engaging at all. I'm only I'm not silent treating.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, silent treating.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No, not quite. They trash talk me. If any of
the Packer fans trash talk me, I just send them
back a fact about their state that I think is absurd,
and then I no matter what they say after that,
then they get silent treatment. For example, somebody said some
really negative things to me, some heavy duty trash talk,
(07:13):
and all I wrote back was Wisconsin once had two
local towns argue over who would get a thirty foot
tall fiberglass badger statue. So a Milwaukee resident legally changed
his name to Count Justinian de mort wore a cape daily,
slept in a coffin shaped bed, and petitioned the mayor
(07:35):
to declare his birthday Vampire Appreciation Day. And I'd still
rather hang with him than talk football with you. That's
the sort of stuff that I'm sending back.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Well, that's a smart way to do it. I mean,
there are a lot of those. I've been to Wisconsin
several times, so have you to perform live stand up comedy.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's actually the origin of our friendship. Know, I don't
know how many people know that our friendship the birth birth,
but I think the growth of.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Our flourishing when it flourished.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
You want to tell it, you want to tell the people.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, we were in Appleton, Wisconsin, which is just south
of Green Bay, and we were working at the Skyline
Comedy Cafe.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And what year do we think this is? Back in
twenty Well it was the far of year. What year
was far two thousand and nine?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Okay, so we're there and we're doing We used to
do this decathlon thing where we would do ten events
that were somewhat athletic. Right, it was like wiffleball, home run,
derby point contest. Yeah, just stuff like that that wasn't
the actual game game, but it was derivative of it.
So we would do that and then on the and
(08:43):
then we were playing cribbage.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That's funny how the athleticism started with the athletics and
whittled down to let's play cards and move toothpicks.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well toward towards the end of the week, you don't
have access, right, You can't like quick run to the
ry YMCA. What you can do is, right before a
set is you can put on a Vikings Brett Favre
Jersey like you did. And then I heard you get introduced,
and then I heard just thick booing without you having
(09:15):
said anything.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It was right before the first game that Brett Fav
played the Packers as a Viking. Was the It was
the Saturday night before that was going to happen, I
think on a Monday.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And the people were I'm gonna go with less than
pleased yeah, And so that's when I thought to myself, like, yeah,
I think that he and I have a pretty similar brain.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So I went up on stage. Cliff, who ran the club,
pulled the lights up because and I quote he was
pretty sure somebody was going to throw a glass at
me because I was doing the Hulk Hogan like bump
up up, like hand to the ear motion, over and over.
And then you ran to the booth and as I
(09:59):
was going up, played the Monday night football theme music.
That's the one thing that I remember. And here we
are years later with the team letting us be involved, which.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That's right, and our friendship barely hanging on.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Jay the producer just said that people through pool balls
on the field at players during that game. When Farv
went back there for the first time and had signs
comparing Farv to Fredo from The Godfather.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
So I knew it was you. I knew it was you.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I didn't get the pool balls, but you could. You know,
you could feel that that would probably be the reaction
in that room night, because I believe Appleton is where
the opposing teams stay, so Appleton they're not just pack Evans.
I think they feel like they're really a part of it.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, because I went to a Vike's Packer game Lambeau
and Brett Farav was still the quarterback, Dante Culpepper was
for US. Dante Culpepper was getting murdered. I'm saying, right up, murdered.
So I start freaking out. I'm screaming down the field
and the section around me right just a couple rows
(11:09):
started chanting all before I know it, within the minute,
the entire stadium. Here's the crazy thing about this stadium.
They don't have to have witnessed what happened. They just
know if somebody sends out the bat signal, we have
to join in. And so this entire stadium was chanting that.
(11:32):
And then we were at the bar afterwards back in Appleton,
because we were staying at the same hotel that the
Vikes were staying at, and we're at the bar right
next door and then this Packer fan comes in. He goes,
oh man, somebody, somebody from Minnesota really got it tonight,
because everybody was chanting. And my buddy goes, he's right here,
this guy. And I really didn't even do anything to
(11:54):
deserve it other than yelling, because remember when Farv and
even even Rogers that whole thing. The Packers got a
lot of calls. They were the chiefs. Yeah, they were
the chiefs of the early two thousands, so it was tough.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I think that's a great place to take to break.
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(12:49):
to the Vikings tailgate once again. I'm your host, Simonson.
We're doing a little best of on Thanksgiving here. The
other two teams that we've discussed the season that are
playing today are the Ravens and Bengals. I live in
Bengals Country, and earlier this year, Chad and I broke
down the tortured nature of the Bengals franchise. The Cincinnati
(13:11):
Bengals are coming to town and joining me to talk
everything about the city and the team. Is the one,
the only Chad Daniels.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Hi, everybody, BurrH. I'm excited. I'm gonna tell you something.
I'm excited for the game, and I'm excited that we
don't recap games on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
What a wonderful thing for us that we're always looking forward?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
We got it, Hey, brother, There's a reason that the
windshield is bigger than the rearview mirror. You feel me.
We gotta look forward. That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Here on I love that. Actually, I mean, I know
you did it in the hillbilly voice, but I love it. Normally,
normally we do the thing where we kind of dive
into both sides of what we like and dislike about it.
But I tell you, I live in Cincinnati. We love
the city, we love the comedy there, and because they're
team is a tortured like they I identify with them
(14:05):
as it. There's not many organizations that you can really
look at them and go, man, you just you've got
that same Charlie Brown vibe getting the football pulled out
from you in the fan base. So I like, yeah,
I'm gonna have a hard time saying anything negative about
the Bengals or their fans.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Well, it's interesting because when you're a Vikings fan, you go,
you know, what, this happened. Bad things happen to us,
and then when we watch the Bengals, we go, they
did it to themselves. It's a different attitude for the
same situation. My girlfriend said, we have a lot of
friends in Cincinnati, how do you cheer for And you go,
(14:43):
I'm not going to listen to that, No, because we
cheer just as hard and we make fun of them
just as hard when we beat them.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's absolutely correct. The U there is a really like
when I first moved here and you start meeting a
lot of Bengals fans, one of the first things you
learn is that they were one of if not the
but one of the last teams in the NFL to
get an actual website. And the standard joke and it's
a dad joke, but it, dude, it rocks. Everybody goes yes,
(15:12):
because we had a hard time string in three w's together.
God dang, that's a good.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh, that is a really good joke. I think it
is actually because it's harder to type on a keyboard
when you have blisters from playing the banjo. They're so
close to Kentucky. The airport is in Kentucky. They call
it Cincinnati, and it's in a different.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
State when you're down here, like when we move down
here as a Viking fan, the Cleveland rivalry, it's very
Green Bay ish. Yeah, there's this all time moment in
Bengals history. It's like nineteen eighty nine. I think they're
playing the Seattle Seahawks and an official made of call
(15:54):
that the fans did not care for. And the fans
it's December, so they start balling up snowballs and heaving
them onto the field, and the Seahawks are like, we're
not playing with you throwing stuff at it, so they
will and the officials have to pause the game. And
I love the moments when when a coach when they
(16:14):
have to hand him the PA system and be like, coach,
can you please get a hold of these people? It's
so good. So they hand the coach at the time,
Sam Whitch, He gets the microphone and to the whole stadium.
He goes, will the next person that sees anybody throw
anything onto the field point them out and get them
(16:35):
out of here. You don't live in Cleveland, you live
in Cincinnati. Imagine just being in like Grand Rapids, Like
it's yeah, you guys are pretty much it's very similar.
But yeah, that's an all time moment.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That is like a dad just going like, hey, you're
acting like your brother right now, knock it off.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And I do feel that against the state of Wisconsin,
and I don't. It's so funny because when you cut
the top half of both states off, you could just
drive across them and it's nearly indistinguishable.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I've always said without professional football, it's the same.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
State pretty similar. I think there's a cholesterol difference due
to a cheese product. Like somehow we were like our
state was like, we'll make milk, you make cheese. I
don't know how we decided that, but there's certainly a
heart clog issue there.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I think we were like, hey, come get all moldy milk. Yeah,
you can have our moldy milk.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
The Bengals opponent today is going to be the Baltimore Ravens,
And of course, when we talked Ravens earlier this season,
we talked about one of the craziest finishes in Vikings history.
Listen to Chad and I break it down here, let's
shift to the Ravens. You know, we do a little
bit of history on this show, and this matchup also
(17:56):
has one of my in addition to a crazy weird
stat one of my favorite history moments. I was at
Hilarities in Cleveland, sure for a week of shows, the
Great Hilarities opening for the Great Jake Johansson's this pretty
early in my career, huh. And I sat at a
bar all by myself and watched the twenty thirteen Ravens
(18:18):
Vikings game and if you recall, we lost it. But
that was that absurd game where there was such horrible
snow that the field crew had to plow the field
at halftime, and in the last two minutes of that game,
everything goes nuts. Two minutes and seven seconds left, Dennis
(18:38):
Pitta scores a touchdown. The Ravens take the lead. Then
Boom Vikings get the ball back. Two plays later, blast
from the pass Toby Gerhardt Toby Gearhart forty one yards
for a touchdown. Ravens get the ball back, run the
kickoff back for a touchdown. They retake the lead. Then
(18:59):
Corderioatterson scores on a seventy nine yard touchdown pass for
the Vikings. They take the lead, and then Marlon Brown
scores on a nine yard touchdown with only nine seconds left.
The Ravens win. I haven't seen every football game in
the history of football. I don't have that rolodex like
our friend Alex Schubert, but that has to be about
the craziest two minutes in the history of professional football.
(19:21):
And it was in the snow. Guys were sliding, guys
were diving.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
That's what made those plays possible is that in the snow,
once you get going forward, it is so hard because
nobody can catch you because everybody's trying to cut and
make up ground on you. Now you say this is
the greatest professional game, probably in the snow. I'm gonna
throw one little amateur at you nineteen ninety one Cleveland
(19:44):
Elementary School field. I remember a Fritz Skinner going to
Sam Skinner for ninety nine yard touchdown, and then I
remember immediately Eric Johnson throwing a bomb to excuse me,
but yours truly in the snow, high stepping in my
sore l boots for the touchdown for the win.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Now, I'm not saying it was the greatest professional snow
game of all time. I think people get really mad
at me for that. It's in the conversation for craziest
two minutes.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh yeah, crazy is two minutes snow doubt.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Can we just take a pause since he came up
in this memory for me and talk about Cordero Patterson
that game, he gets five receptions, one hundred and forty
one yards and a touchdown. I was thinking about him
the other day. I think it was tough to come
to our team, a team that we were the team
of a mad Rashad and the team of Chris Carter
(20:35):
and the team of Randy Moss. So you think of
wide receivers in a very specific way. And he came
into the league and not only was he not that
type of guy, but he was so before his time
in terms of positionless football. I mean, he goes on,
he sets the NFL record for kick returns. Right, he's
like a four time All Pro. He wins, he goes
(20:55):
and he wins a Super Bowl with Bill Belichick, and
you can't be done and play for Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Right of course.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And then he has this amazing second act to his
career where he gets to Atlanta and they go, you're
a running back and then everybody goes, oh, man, he's
so good at running back.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
In retrospect, he's probably the most underdiscussed unique vite. Him
and Percy Harvin are kind of like the great what
ifs for me if they'd have been in a different
time period or gotten to do what they did late
Early Patterson.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Is the faith no More of football, right, faith no more?
What is it? It's it. They were Limp Biscuit before
Limp Biscuit, but nobody knew where to put them, and
so they didn't get the notoriety that they should have gotten.
And then Limp Biscuit goes on with Fred Durst to
like smash its and you're like, from my generation, you go,
(21:51):
this is a faith no more ripoff. And so that's
the same way I feel about Patterson. Sometimes people get
to the level they want to get to just a
little bit too early, and nobody knows where to put them.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Imagine, yeah, that's a great point. Imagine if Cordero Patterson,
if you handed him to Kyle Shanahan the same year
that Kyle Shanahan got Deebo Samuel. Sure, you're like, oh,
a giant Deebo Samuel. Mm hmmm, huge Cordero heads on
this show. Chat. That's going to do it for us
this week. Thank you to all of you for listening
(22:28):
each and every week, and thank you to ticket Master,
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