October 28, 2024 • 34 mins
This week on Weekend Warriors, Anish and Tom discuss their favorite horror movies, the comeback of the running back position, and a few college football teams that they are buying down the stretch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've made it to ten episodes. Nobody thought we would
get this far episode ten of Weekend Warriors in Eashroth,
Tom Lougan, Bill, and I guess because we're ten episodes in.
I thought I'd start with with movies, because nobody makes
sequels and turns out sequels and bad sequels like the
horror movie genre. And so I thought we would start
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there right low hanging fruit. But I was thinking this morning,
I watched The Watchers on the plane last night. Have
you seen that one?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah? Terrible?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It was okay, but but it was okay, Like I
didn't love it, I didn't hate it. Okay. You know,
my bar for horror movies is pretty low. There's not
a lot of good ones out there, right, So I
was thinking, you know, what's a real horror movie? And
you know we've got the exorses and the Pultergizon sEH
yeh yeah, there's some classics, right. The one, the one
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that still chills me, the one that I really have
a hard time watching again and again because it's that
scary Rosemary's.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So that got you?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Huh that got me? Have you seen that one?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I have seen that one? So I would counter that
with this because this is very similar the original the Omen.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh yes, yeah, that's in my top three absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So to your point, you have the staples, right, you
have the Exercise, you have the Omen, you have Rosemary's Baby,
and then you kind of get into the late seventies,
early to mid eighties Slasher Fixed. So now we have Halloween, right,
we have Friday the thirteenth, We've got Nightmare on Elm Street,
you know, all of those sorts. And then we get
into the nineties. Yeah, Texas Shames, Unmasker. You get in
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the nineties and you have screen and it starts to
get a little silly with I know what you did
last summer and this and that. But over the last
ten to fifteen years, we have embarked on a renaissance
of horror films that are far more eerie, creepy, ghostly
like unnerving that I think have really like like to me,
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I'm going to give you two staples here that are fantastic,
fantastic modern horror movies. Number one, Hereditary.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Never seen it, never heard of it?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Okay, Tony Collett, Hereditary. Then the second one is Sinister
with Ethan Hawk, And those two movies will get the
best of.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You Sinister with Ethan Hawk. I'm trying to think if
I saw that, No, I saw was it black Box
with Ethan Hawk?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, you saw the black phone, the black phone, black Phone.
That's pretty good too. That's not a bad movie. That's
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That was Okay, I have been seen either of those. Yep,
Hereditary like Sinister second tagline. Okay, so Hereditary is a
bit of a satanic thing that is really really creepy
because it's based.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Off of This is gonna sound so morbid and awful,
but it is part of what makes it so creepy.
It's based off of the death of a family's child
and then what unfolds after that, right, and then Sinister
is Ethan Hawk and his family have moved into this house.
He is a crime writer, he's a novelist, and they
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start to uncover some some things that have happened in
the house, and then it traces back to other families
in other cities for twenty five thirty years, and it's
how do you break the cycle, oh of following the
family in the next house. Okay, he'll get your attention.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
All right, I'm gonna have to add those to the
list because my wife loves horror movies.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh she does loves it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Ok he loves the genre, which means I have sat
through way too many horrible horror movies over the years
because most of you because yeah, these are smarter.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Like I said, it's more modern, new age, creepy, eerie, unnerving.
Like you're like, Okay, that's that. That kind of got me.
It's that type of movie.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
We watched us recently. Okay, Jordan Peel movie, Yeah, potential
started strong and then yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
At the end, totally agree. I thought the concept of
it was great, but it wasn't well executed. Get Out.
Get Out was a great concept and well executed.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And well executed, right, And so you're you're watching that
and I'm going, Okay, does this have the potential? And
the lead up and there's this anticipation and then you're like, ah,
that's the payoff.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, you're right.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You basically just turned it into a slash or flick
at the end. Sure, I'll give you a couple The Ring,
Remember the Ring.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The Ring's fantastic, fantastic, so good.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And then the first couple of Saw movies. Yes, absolutely
game changer, genre changer at the time, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I thought the Conjuring was fantastic Conjuring. The very first
Condrey was really really good. I thought the very first
Insidious was really good. Those are all made by the
same people, by the way, And then have you seen
one that's a little bit unique. It's called Malignant. It's
actually on HBO Max right now.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think, so give me the premise again.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It's hard to give you the premise without giving it away. Okay,
but you can check it out.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Sounds like one I may have seen.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Okay, all right, By the way, while we're on the top,
before we move on to ball, which we will move
on to ball. Do you consider a movie like Silence
of the Lambs or Jaws to be a horror movie?
No action thriller? Right, yeah, me too, Okay, good, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Now I don shire in the horror movie.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yet, but also not necessary the slasher manner, but the
unnerving manner. The unnerving Yeah, I mean yeah that, yes, yes, absolutely,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I'll give you a couple of more that these are
somewhat recent. The Baba Duke, You ever watched that one?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Fantastic?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh man, you talk good factor maybe one of the
highest Creek factors. In a movie that I've seen. So
if you like Tobab, you'll like Sinister, Okay, yeah, uh,
and then what's the one with the Little girl the doll? Orphan, Orphan, Orphan,
Orphan got me, Orphan was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Orphan is actually sneaky good.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Annabel?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh you talking about Annabel? Yeah, Annabel pretty good? Yeah,
Annabel's pretty good. You're good. Call on that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So, if you're listening, you've got some horror movies to
uh get into. But Hereditarian, Sinister, Ludes, those are I'm
gonna I'm gonna have to add that to the list
for this week.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, let me add you one last one because the
sequel just came out last week, but the original is
better than the sequel. Smile Have you seen Smile?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I have not seen Smile?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Man. I feel I'm good. Your wife will love Smile.
Your wife's gonna love it. So get on Smile, Sinister,
and Hereditary.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Those are my three rex for you. All right on
that note, let's talk ball, ladies and gentlemen. The weekend
close to the episode, Talk by day Touchdown Carolina.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Weekend Warriors.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
We're gonna start this week in the NFL and maybe
we can identify a trend because the thing in the
NFL is you have to be at the forefront of
where the league is headed. Right. And we saw this
a decade plus ago with running backs, where a team
started to realize the shelf life of that position has
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become increasingly shorter.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And while you go back to the era that you
and I grew up in, right, those guys were stars,
they were paid like stars, they were marquee names, they
were everywhere. And these were guys who kind of deserved
it because they were touching the ball twenty five thirty
times a game. Oh yeah, I look at Atlanta for example. Right,
But Jean Robinson in another era would have been a
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guy who got thirty touches. He would have been Marshall Fock,
he would have been Roger Craig he was right.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Now Falcons fans complained because he doesn't even get twenty
touches a game. Sometimes doesn't even get fifteen touches a game. Yeah,
there is this theory, and I want to start here. Right. Hey,
I'm probably not going to get an Adrian Peterson and EMMITTT.
Smith of Jerome Battis, the Curtis Martin and Barry Sanders
one of these guys. So the next best thing is
to have two or three guys and just keep them
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fresh all game.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, And the college game is turned into that.
And what you're referencing is there's no more load carriers,
there's no more herschel walkers, there's no more bo Jackson's.
The mileage on the chassis and the punishment you take
to the frame to your point lessens and decreases the
shelf life significantly. So now what's happening. We're seeing a
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lot of this in college and I think in pro
football too, But you're seeing the thunder and lightning aspect, right.
You're seeing the guy that can pound. He can be
your short yardage guy, get to the tough yardage. He's
better in the fourth quarter than he is in the third,
or excuse me, in the first. And then you have
your change of pace guy, your dynamic weapon, your guy
that can play just about every down. Maybe he doesn't
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have the power or the ability to contact balance the
break tackles, but he can break big runs. And to me,
if you've got two or three of those guys that
are interchangeable, depending on what the situation is, that's how
you survive at the position.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And I'll bring that up because I think we might
be now at the tipping point where I think running
backs might be making a comeback. You're watching what Derrick
Henry is doing, a late career renaissance. This is after
a season where no running back had three hundred carries
in the NFL, first time since I believe nineteen ninety
that that had happened. Jordan Mason stepping in for Christian
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McCaffrey Saquon has shown, Hey, you can give these guys
a second contract. Chuba Hubbard's having a great season with
the Panthers. He's going to get a nice payday in
the offseason. And so where does this cycle come?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I look at example baseball, where money Ball said batting
average doesn't matter, and then all of a sudden, pitchers
started throwing ninety seven ninety eight, and both guys come
out of the bullpen throwing triple digits. And it's not
just one guy in the ninth inning, it's you know,
basically everybody. Now, all of a sudden, batting average matters,
Putting the ball matters again. So things kind of came
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full circle. So the NFL went to this pass heavy offense.
Receivers started getting paid and receivers where it used to
be the Jerry Rice, the Tim Brown. You know, you
know there was always a few of these guys, but
now there are so many of those guys. And I
go back to a conversation. I don't want to reveal
the name because you know, recruiting and you never know
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how this comes off. But a conversation I had with
a fairly prominent college football coach a year ago, and
it came up a second time with a different coach,
and they were talking about how gang wide receivers at
the college level not a big deal. And I said, why,
Why is that? Because there's so many? Because there's so
many kids now see it, right, Hey, these running backs
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aren't getting paid in the NFL. I want to be
a wide receiver. You have seven on sevens at the
high school level. Teams now are consistently playing three four,
five wide receiver sets, So more guys are getting reps,
more guys are getting quality reps, and there's more quality
wide receivers out there. And you start to see the
salaries lugues of some of these wide receivers lately, and
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I'm not saying that Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson or
Cede Lamb they don't deserve it. They certainly do. But
if you're thinking about roster construction and building a team,
knowing that, yeah, in this day and age, you're probably
gonna have to pay forty million dollars for a league
average quarterback. Are you going to devote close to thirty
million dollars for a number one wide receiver when maybe
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for eighty percent of that guy you might be able
to get half off or even more and you can
allocate those resources everywhere. I think that wide receiver position
might be nearing a saturation point.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well. To further your point, if you look back at
the high school player pool for college football and in
the recruitment of that position and other positions for that matter,
they correlate directly to the National Football League as well.
The one position that there's always more prospects of in
every class is wide receiver. So if I pull up
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our database right now and I click the twenty twenty
five recruiting class, and every single player that we have
graded at the wide receiver position alone, this is just
wide receiver. There are seven hundred and sixty four players
at wide receiver alone nationally that we've graded in the
twenty twenty five class. If I were to take that
and change it to quarterback, there's four hundred and eighteen. Wow,
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if I were to change it to offensive tackle three
thirty eight. So if I were to change it to
defensive end four thirty nine. The wide receivers are so
much in bulk. It's literally a costco position. And to me,
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they're standing on every street corner. Yes, you'd like to
have a great one, but you can get four or
five really good ones, and then if you've got a
good quarterback, the quarterback will disperse that ball to those
guys and turn them into superstars. Right now, I don't
know if you can do the opposite though, aniche. I
don't know if you can do that and have a
below average player at quarterback and get the type of
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marquee production you want at the receiver position. But those
numbers bore out to be true at the high school level,
the college level, and the National Football League level, and
that hasn't changed at least at the high school level
in twenty years. It's always been like that. It's one
of the reasons why, Yes, do we want to grade
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a receiver high if we see one that we think
is really really elite. Yes, But the reality of it
is there's going to be more of those guys in
every other position, so we don't have to overgrade them
because there's plenty to go around.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And that's going to trickle down to the NFL, and
it has started to. You see guys like a Puka Nakua,
right fifth round pick, puts together one of the great
rookie seasons we've ever seen. Now to your point, his
quarterback last year was a healthy Matthew Stafford. I just
feel there's going to be fined at that position. Later
in the draft. You can get a guy around three,
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round four, round five. Now, having said that, you look
at most of the top receivers in the NFL, they
are first round picks. But again, when you're buying in bulk,
you can find some hidden gems later in the draft.
And I think so much of the NFL it really
comes down to how you construct your roster and you
know the resources that you have to allocate to a quarterback.
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So if you're a team that, for example, has a
quarterback and a rookie contract, yeah, sure, you can go
pay wide receiver for thirty million dollars because you're not
paying that quarterback a big time salary. Now, if he's
on a second contract, then you bring him back again
the going rate for a QB on his second contract,
if you know, again league average. We're talking league average, right,
like somebody who may or may not get you to
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five hundred. That's forty million dollars right now.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, yeah, exactly right. That's a huge sum. Now I'll
say this too about because this conversation started off with
wide receivers. And I tell kids and their parents this
all the time. Don't play wide receiver, Play corner. I
want to make money one day. Play corner. Are you
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taller than five to eleven? Screw playing wide out. They're
standing on every street corner, play corner back. That's where
the money is.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And that's true. And or you just do what Travis
Hunter does and he does both.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah right, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Let's bring it to college football. The first playoff rankings
come out a week from Tuesday, and so I want
to just take a look at some these conference races.
And I know you cover the ACC you do the
primetime game every week, on the ACC network for weeks,
it has felt like Clemson and Miami on a collision course.
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Clemson's got the one loss to Georgia. They've been rolling
team since Miami has had a little bit of drama.
It looks like there might be some magic fairy dust
on their season. They're unbeaten, they're in the top five. However, however,
three teams to watch for you've had SMU Now I
think you have them again this week. Yeah, Pittsburgh on
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Thursday had what three defensive touchdowns annihilated my alma mater,
Syracuse and Virginia Tech, who really stumbled out of the gate.
Don't look now there's one in the ACC and the
one loss that was the Friday night game I did
a little while ago against Miami on that Hail Mary
where replay overturned what appeared to be the game winning
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touchdown for Miami without indisputable video evidence. So Virginia the.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Way, why would you have a game that came down
to the.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Last play with a hill Mary at the end Friday night?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Literally cuss you every Saturday morning. You get like the
weekly but.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I get your texts. Are we are we right here
handicapping this acc race as Clemson Miami being fan house
level inevitable or SMU pit maybe even Virginia Tech have
a chance to crash this thing.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, we know that Clemson and Miami have the easiest path.
They don't play each other, and neither of them play
smu Itit's got the most difficult path and it starts
this week on the road at smu Something's got to
give there. That might be one of the first CFP
elimination games that that we will have so far as
we embark on the month of November. I do think,
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unfortunately Virginia Tech's not in the I don't think they're
in the broader converse, but they're in the conversation to
screw it up for somebody else because they're doing the
exact same thing they did last year, and that's get
hot down the stretch. And so yeah, I think they're
a bit problematic. But to me, Clemson, in my if
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you told me that tomorrow Clemson in Miami were playing,
I would say Clemson would win the game.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I would too, I would too, And that's no sled
on Miami and cam. Now I think Dabo Sweeney is
kind of going to be one of these guys, when
all is said and done, who comes out riding the
wave of everything going on with NIL and transfer Portal.
He's stuck to his guns.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
He's been able to preserve a lot of his culture
when a lot of teams have to reset their locker room,
their culture, their roster year to year. He's stuck to
his guns. And I think in the very new near
future he might be looking at people and say, look,
I told you so.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's another there's no question about it. And
ask Florida State right.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Now, SEC. This is gonna be fun because again no
divisions this year. Right, So top two play for the
league championship Texas A and M with the win over
hour producer Matt Hogan's LSU Tigers over the weekend, now
five and zero in the SEC that they have not
lost since the season opener. I wish you can kind
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of fast forward to A and M Texas because the
SEC gives us that rivalry again, we get it at
the end of the season. You know, they got a
few more games between now and the Texas game, but
it's a manageable schedule. They beat LSU, they got South Carolina,
New Mexico, State at Auburn should win all three of
those and then home against Texas to close the season.
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I don't know if we had A and M on
our Bingo card, but Mike Elco has done a tremendous job.
There's a very real chance they're gonna play in the
SEC Championship, win or lose that game against Texas.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I totally agree with you. He's done a remarkable job,
and I think it goes back to the offseason where
he basically just went in tould a team that was
left to him. Hey, if you're here for name, image
and likeness, if you're here for money, if you're here
for stardom, you need to go somewhere else. If you
want to play for a championship, you want to be developed,
you want to have an opportunity to earn everything that
you're capable of earning, then that's who we want here.
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Because finally, that program seems to have some substance, They
have an identity, They know who they are. The guys
that are playing are actually playing for Texas, A and
M not themselves, and he deserves a ton of credit
for that and getting that team to the point that
they are at Listen, you're going to have a playoff
elimination game between Alabama and LSU in two weeks. You
could potentially have one between Georgia and Tennessee in a
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couple of weeks, right. I think it's going to be
very interesting to see how this entire thing unfolds. It
was a tough loss for LSU, but the SEC and
I don't think Texas looks right right now. Something whatever
happened in that job game seems to be lingering a
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little bit. I think Quinn Yours looks gun shy. He
is not just letting it rip and cutting it loose.
They seem a bit hesitant. Something's not quite right there,
and they've got to get back on track and see
what they can come up with down the stretch. So
I think it's a wide open, crazy race, not quite
as wide open as the Big twelve.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
No, and before we get in the Big twelve, Georgia
is an interesting one too, because most people look at Georgia,
Oh yeah, playoff team, right the Boston Alabama, they almost
came back and win, They beat Texas, They got a
pretty tough closing stretch. They still have to go to
Ole Miss. They still play Tennessee. Those are a couple
of tough games left on their ledger, and you know,
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you lose one and now you're on the playoff bubble.
You lose two, you're not getting into the playoffs. So
the SEC is gonna be a while finished. The Big
twelve and I've had a few Big twelve games this year.
BYU's defense is legitimate. I don't think of if people
are talking about Iowach State and I'll tell you what.
Colorado State and Colorado the two quarterbacks that they have
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are difference makers, Avery Williams and River Sanders. And when
you have a quarterback in college football.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You have a chance, there's no doubt about it. And
you take a look at that schedule in Colorado's case,
which looked so daunting prior to the season beginning, and
Oklahoma State has fallen flat, Kansas has fallen flat, Utah
has fallen flat, while Colorado has elevated and now they're
race smacking the thick of it, which is crazy to think.
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And they deserve a ton of credit because off of
the North Dakota State game, the lost to Nebraska, it
really started to look like we're going to see much
more of the same. It looked like a team where
you said, if you took number twelve and number two
off of that roster, they're a one and eleveneen and
now all of a sudden, they're playing some complimentary football
as a team in the month of November getting hot.
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I think that the Big Twelve is fascinating and it's
it's gonna make for a great November.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah you get, you get Barmageddon and ioway State Kansas
State at the end of the year, which could be
for at spot in the Big Twelve Championship. The team
that I think could create trouble and their record is
very deceiving, is Kansas. Kansas has suffered the slings and
arrows of outrageous fortune.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
On a weekly business.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's a good team. They return everybody from a nine
win team a year ago. They've had more close losses
and more bounces go against them. They're going to beat
somebody at some point and someone's gonna look at the
record and go, how do you lose to Kansas? No, No,
it's pretty good Kansas team talent wise. B YU I
think has the softest exit ramp. Yes World Championship. They
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beat UCF pretty handily at Utah, which was the preseason
pick to win the league and they got quarterback issues.
They're oc resigned. They should beat Utah in Salt Lake.
They get Kansas at home at Arizona State, who's better.
I don't think good enough to be BYU And then
you close against Houston. They should go four and oh,
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at the very least three and one. I think get
a Big twelve championship.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, I'm with you. I feel good about them, and
for what you said initially, defensively, they're a handful and
I you know, I think that when you're in a
league that has to this point been fairly average on
that side of the ball, and you have a leg
up and you have the opportunity to steal a possession
or two per game to give back to your offense,
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that's where b why you get an advantage.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Let's go to the Big ten. I want to get
to Indiana in a moment because it's such a great
story and this team is now eight to no. But
I want to start with Oregon, who's the number one
team in the country. Here's my fear about Oregon. All Right,
you're about to go into a world that you're not
familiar with you signed up to play in the Big
Ten with Washington and USC and UCLA. You know what
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that means. You go to Michigan and event. You know
what that means, you go to Madison, Wisconsin in November. Football,
different style of football. I know Michigan can't throw the ball, right,
they're still pretty good on defense that they can run
the ball. It's going to be cold and arbor probably
this weekend. I haven't looked at the temperature. But this
is also the point the season right where I would
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imagine that, you know, maybe travel gets to you a
little bit. And so far I give Idaho Oregon this.
They've only had to go to Purdue, right there are
others at UCLA at Oregon State, so they've been in
Eugene for the most part. Well, now you're going to
go to Michigan, then two weeks later you're gonna go
to Wisconsin. I just feel there's a trap game here
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waiting for Oregon.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
There could be. The one pushback I would give is
that I don't know if any of those teams offensively
are capable of playing from behind, and if Oregon gets
out on you with their offensive skill when they get
into space, I don't know how some of the other
teams are going to keep pace with them now if
they trip up, or they sputter, or for some reason
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they go on the road. Like you said, you have
a weather element, you have temperatures, you have wind. Maybe
all of a sudden, you uncharacteristically turn it over twice
and wants a pick six. You know, all of those
sorts of things. You just look at the Syracuse Pittsburgh
game on Thursday, like.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I think it's more than that. I think again, you know,
Wisconsin Michigan, we're talking about two of the best home
field advantages in college football period. This isn't going to
Washington State in November. This isn't going to Arizona or
even Arizona State in November. With all due respect, you're
now walking in the November games in hostile environments, elements
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potentially being a factor. And again, those fans, those visiting
fans for you, they now see that you got a
number one in front of your name. I mean, listen,
it's it's the super Bowl now for Michigan. It's the
super Bowl for Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It absolutely is. And we'll see if Oregon is capable
of handling that because I'm not saying Oregon's not the
number one team in the country a niche, but there's
a part of me that feels like Oregon is the
number one team in the country by default. I agree,
you know, not that they shouldn't be in the conversation,
not that they shouldn't be, but are they a convincing
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number one? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Is Penn State at convincing number three? We're gonna find
out this weekend against Ohio State. I'm still not a
believer in Penn State.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Listen, they're undefeated. That's why they're number three. I think
there's plenty of holes to poke into the Nitney Lions,
and it's put up for shut up time, how many
times if they have this matchup where it's like, Okay,
we're taking the next step, we're getting over this hurdle,
and we are better than Ohio State, and they haven't
been able to pull it off. They've got to somehow
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win this game. And I think all of the pressures
on Ohio State, all of the pressure is on Ryan
Day because they as a program very publicly pushed all
of their chips to the center of the table and
said we are going to build through free agency a
roster that we think will be unmatched to win a
national championship. Well, if you're going to do that, you
can't lose to Penn State. You can't lose to Michigan.
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And so I think the pressure is on a house.
And by the way, how is that game at new
How is that not at night?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I have no idea that should be a primetime game
with all the eyeballs. It's number three against number four.
All right, lives, I'm drinking the Indiana kool aide. Kurt
Signetti had a great line a few weeks ago when
people were asking how he's gotten off to this great start.
He said, google me, I win everywhere I go. I
love that answer. This guy wanted James Madison. He's now
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winning at Indiana. Kind of one of those guys for
We're saving assistant who had to wait his turn a
long time to prove that he could do it at
the Power Conference level as a head coach. And Indiana
is eight tozer And I tell you I hadn't bought
into them, And then a few weeks ago started watching
them and watching their highlights Man, they are impressive. I
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don't know if from a talent standpoint, they have enough
to match up down the road with Oregon. They play
Ohio State in the regular season, but they are well coached,
they don't make mistakes. I'm buying Indiana. I am buying Indiana,
and when I look at their remaining schedule, Michigan State
on the road, they should win. They have Michigan at home.
I think they're a better team than Michigan at Ohio
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State will be the challenge. And then against Purdue, I
wouldn't be surprised they finished with one loss and that
might put them right there in contention to play for
the Big Ten championship.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Couldn't agree more. Obviously, they've proven that they're more than
just Curtis Rourke, who's been a great player for him.
Tavian Jackson is the future of that program, and he's
shown why they got a tremendous amount of confidence in him.
They're just so physical and they play defense and they
beat you up at the point of attack and to
your point, you know, we overcomplicate things. Sometimes football is
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about blocking, tackling and not beating yourself, right, So they're
not heavily penalized. They don't turn the ball over, they
play sound football in all three phases. They've got really
good quarterback play, and the schedule plays into their favor.
Not everybody can control the schedule. Sometimes, when you got
one that plays in your favor, you got to take
advantage of it. I think they're capable.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
The group of five, there's three teams that I got
in my crosshairs. One Boise State Ashton GenZ putting up
insane almost Barry Sanders esque numbers. Boise State right now
is the highest ranked group of five team in the
eight people. Whoever the highest ranked group of five champion
is And that's a big thing. You gotta win the
conference champion. They get an automatic spot in the College
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Football playoff. But how cool would it be? Man nothing
against Boise State and gent who's having a great season
on the smurf turf. How cool would it be for
Army and Navy to play in the American Conference Championship
with a potential playoff spot on the line, and then
only to meet a week later in the Army Navy Game.
I just feel that would be just such a cool
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moment for college football.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
It absolutely would be. It would be America's moment. Would
it's America's moment.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And it would literally be the thing everybody in the
country would need after the election.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Absolutely, that's exactly right. And listen, it's a it's a
great story that hasn't come to an end yet. I
still think that Boise State is a cut above. I
don't think I don't know if anybody play. I don't
think there are power of five teams right now that
want to play Boise State.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Boise State almost feed Oregon, remember.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Absolutely, In fact, they pushed Oregon around, so did Idaho.
Now I know that was in the first two weeks.
We've got to acknowledge improvement. Well, I think Boise State
is a handful in every in every way, shape or form.
And if they get in whoever they're seated again, get
a scratch egg and go, oh man, what why?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I agree? I again, and you have maybe the most
talented running back in the country and gent But what
Army's doing? They're seven to zero. Navy had it cooking.
They ran into a buzz saw against Notre Dame over
the weekend. But again, if Boise were to slip up
and lose its conference championship, for example, and then you
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get Army and Navy, and let's say it's an undfeated
Army team and a one lost Navy team. The winner
of that game going to the college football Playoff. I
don't care where your allegiance lies. They automatically become, as
you said, America's team in that college football playoff. And
given what those guys sacrifice and what they do and
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what they signed up for, just a ton of respect,
Just a ton of respect. I think it was Riley
Leonard had a really good quote after the Navy game.
He did, I mean, basically, so those guys are are heroes, man.
I mean, you know, they come out here, they have
such a regimented schedule, they're playing football, and for them
it's kind of their escape, their relief from everything else
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that's demanded of them. And then they go out and
they serve a country. They do it at the highest level.
So again I'm rooting for that matchup. I think if
we get maybe in a conference championship, just be be
great for college football. Frankly, be great for America.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Just remember, just just imagine coaching in that world, all right,
You're not worried about name, image and likeness, you're not
worried about the transfer portal. You have your guys for
four years. They're not going anywhere. They will run through
a brick wall. You show up to the office every
day and you don't have an arrest warrant out for anybody, right,
I mean, it is the pinnacle of I would say coaching. Uh,
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what's my my lack of phrase here, it's it's the
the coaching nirvana, if you will, because you're dealing with
any headaches. It's the purest form of coaching with no headaches.
And I mean unbelievable. And wouldn't everybody allowed to still
be able to do that?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I think we all would, especially the way college football
is changing. All Right, we will do this again next week.
We will do it next Monday. Nothing going on on
Tuesday except for the college football playoff rankings coming out, right.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Nothing else to do, nothing else to do, nowhere else
to see, nothing to see here. Ten episodes in Weekend Warriors.
We'll see you next week.
We've made it to ten episodes. Nobody thought we would
get this far episode ten of Weekend Warriors in Eashroth,
Tom Lougan, Bill, and I guess because we're ten episodes in.
I thought I'd start with with movies, because nobody makes
sequels and turns out sequels and bad sequels like the
horror movie genre. And so I thought we would start
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there right low hanging fruit. But I was thinking this morning,
I watched The Watchers on the plane last night. Have
you seen that one?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah? Terrible?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It was okay, but but it was okay, Like I
didn't love it, I didn't hate it. Okay. You know,
my bar for horror movies is pretty low. There's not
a lot of good ones out there, right, So I
was thinking, you know, what's a real horror movie? And
you know we've got the exorses and the Pultergizon sEH
yeh yeah, there's some classics, right. The one, the one
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that still chills me, the one that I really have
a hard time watching again and again because it's that
scary Rosemary's.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So that got you?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Huh that got me? Have you seen that one?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I have seen that one? So I would counter that
with this because this is very similar the original the Omen.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh yes, yeah, that's in my top three absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So to your point, you have the staples, right, you
have the Exercise, you have the Omen, you have Rosemary's Baby,
and then you kind of get into the late seventies,
early to mid eighties Slasher Fixed. So now we have Halloween, right,
we have Friday the thirteenth, We've got Nightmare on Elm Street,
you know, all of those sorts. And then we get
into the nineties. Yeah, Texas Shames, Unmasker. You get in
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the nineties and you have screen and it starts to
get a little silly with I know what you did
last summer and this and that. But over the last
ten to fifteen years, we have embarked on a renaissance
of horror films that are far more eerie, creepy, ghostly
like unnerving that I think have really like like to me,
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I'm going to give you two staples here that are fantastic,
fantastic modern horror movies. Number one, Hereditary.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Never seen it, never heard of it?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Okay, Tony Collett, Hereditary. Then the second one is Sinister
with Ethan Hawk, And those two movies will get the
best of.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You Sinister with Ethan Hawk. I'm trying to think if
I saw that, No, I saw was it black Box
with Ethan Hawk?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, you saw the black phone, the black phone, black Phone.
That's pretty good too. That's not a bad movie. That's
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That was Okay, I have been seen either of those. Yep,
Hereditary like Sinister second tagline. Okay, so Hereditary is a
bit of a satanic thing that is really really creepy
because it's based.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Off of This is gonna sound so morbid and awful,
but it is part of what makes it so creepy.
It's based off of the death of a family's child
and then what unfolds after that, right, and then Sinister
is Ethan Hawk and his family have moved into this house.
He is a crime writer, he's a novelist, and they
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start to uncover some some things that have happened in
the house, and then it traces back to other families
in other cities for twenty five thirty years, and it's
how do you break the cycle, oh of following the
family in the next house. Okay, he'll get your attention.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
All right, I'm gonna have to add those to the
list because my wife loves horror movies.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh she does loves it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Ok he loves the genre, which means I have sat
through way too many horrible horror movies over the years
because most of you because yeah, these are smarter.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Like I said, it's more modern, new age, creepy, eerie, unnerving.
Like you're like, Okay, that's that. That kind of got me.
It's that type of movie.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
We watched us recently. Okay, Jordan Peel movie, Yeah, potential
started strong and then yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
At the end, totally agree. I thought the concept of
it was great, but it wasn't well executed. Get Out.
Get Out was a great concept and well executed.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And well executed, right, And so you're you're watching that
and I'm going, Okay, does this have the potential? And
the lead up and there's this anticipation and then you're like, ah,
that's the payoff.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, you're right.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You basically just turned it into a slash or flick
at the end. Sure, I'll give you a couple The Ring,
Remember the Ring.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The Ring's fantastic, fantastic, so good.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And then the first couple of Saw movies. Yes, absolutely
game changer, genre changer at the time, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I thought the Conjuring was fantastic Conjuring. The very first
Condrey was really really good. I thought the very first
Insidious was really good. Those are all made by the
same people, by the way, And then have you seen
one that's a little bit unique. It's called Malignant. It's
actually on HBO Max right now.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think, so give me the premise again.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It's hard to give you the premise without giving it away. Okay,
but you can check it out.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Sounds like one I may have seen.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Okay, all right, By the way, while we're on the top,
before we move on to ball, which we will move
on to ball. Do you consider a movie like Silence
of the Lambs or Jaws to be a horror movie?
No action thriller? Right, yeah, me too, Okay, good, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Now I don shire in the horror movie.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yet, but also not necessary the slasher manner, but the
unnerving manner. The unnerving Yeah, I mean yeah that, yes, yes, absolutely,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I'll give you a couple of more that these are
somewhat recent. The Baba Duke, You ever watched that one?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Fantastic?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh man, you talk good factor maybe one of the
highest Creek factors. In a movie that I've seen. So
if you like Tobab, you'll like Sinister, Okay, yeah, uh,
and then what's the one with the Little girl the doll? Orphan, Orphan, Orphan,
Orphan got me, Orphan was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Orphan is actually sneaky good.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Annabel?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh you talking about Annabel? Yeah, Annabel pretty good? Yeah,
Annabel's pretty good. You're good. Call on that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So, if you're listening, you've got some horror movies to
uh get into. But Hereditarian, Sinister, Ludes, those are I'm
gonna I'm gonna have to add that to the list
for this week.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, let me add you one last one because the
sequel just came out last week, but the original is
better than the sequel. Smile Have you seen Smile?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I have not seen Smile?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Man. I feel I'm good. Your wife will love Smile.
Your wife's gonna love it. So get on Smile, Sinister,
and Hereditary.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Those are my three rex for you. All right on
that note, let's talk ball, ladies and gentlemen. The weekend
close to the episode, Talk by day Touchdown Carolina.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Weekend Warriors.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
We're gonna start this week in the NFL and maybe
we can identify a trend because the thing in the
NFL is you have to be at the forefront of
where the league is headed. Right. And we saw this
a decade plus ago with running backs, where a team
started to realize the shelf life of that position has
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become increasingly shorter.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And while you go back to the era that you
and I grew up in, right, those guys were stars,
they were paid like stars, they were marquee names, they
were everywhere. And these were guys who kind of deserved
it because they were touching the ball twenty five thirty
times a game. Oh yeah, I look at Atlanta for example. Right,
But Jean Robinson in another era would have been a
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guy who got thirty touches. He would have been Marshall Fock,
he would have been Roger Craig he was right.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Now Falcons fans complained because he doesn't even get twenty
touches a game. Sometimes doesn't even get fifteen touches a game. Yeah,
there is this theory, and I want to start here. Right. Hey,
I'm probably not going to get an Adrian Peterson and EMMITTT.
Smith of Jerome Battis, the Curtis Martin and Barry Sanders
one of these guys. So the next best thing is
to have two or three guys and just keep them
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fresh all game.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, And the college game is turned into that.
And what you're referencing is there's no more load carriers,
there's no more herschel walkers, there's no more bo Jackson's.
The mileage on the chassis and the punishment you take
to the frame to your point lessens and decreases the
shelf life significantly. So now what's happening. We're seeing a
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lot of this in college and I think in pro
football too, But you're seeing the thunder and lightning aspect, right.
You're seeing the guy that can pound. He can be
your short yardage guy, get to the tough yardage. He's
better in the fourth quarter than he is in the third,
or excuse me, in the first. And then you have
your change of pace guy, your dynamic weapon, your guy
that can play just about every down. Maybe he doesn't
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have the power or the ability to contact balance the
break tackles, but he can break big runs. And to me,
if you've got two or three of those guys that
are interchangeable, depending on what the situation is, that's how
you survive at the position.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And I'll bring that up because I think we might
be now at the tipping point where I think running
backs might be making a comeback. You're watching what Derrick
Henry is doing, a late career renaissance. This is after
a season where no running back had three hundred carries
in the NFL, first time since I believe nineteen ninety
that that had happened. Jordan Mason stepping in for Christian
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McCaffrey Saquon has shown, Hey, you can give these guys
a second contract. Chuba Hubbard's having a great season with
the Panthers. He's going to get a nice payday in
the offseason. And so where does this cycle come?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I look at example baseball, where money Ball said batting
average doesn't matter, and then all of a sudden, pitchers
started throwing ninety seven ninety eight, and both guys come
out of the bullpen throwing triple digits. And it's not
just one guy in the ninth inning, it's you know,
basically everybody. Now, all of a sudden, batting average matters,
Putting the ball matters again. So things kind of came
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full circle. So the NFL went to this pass heavy offense.
Receivers started getting paid and receivers where it used to
be the Jerry Rice, the Tim Brown. You know, you
know there was always a few of these guys, but
now there are so many of those guys. And I
go back to a conversation. I don't want to reveal
the name because you know, recruiting and you never know
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how this comes off. But a conversation I had with
a fairly prominent college football coach a year ago, and
it came up a second time with a different coach,
and they were talking about how gang wide receivers at
the college level not a big deal. And I said, why,
Why is that? Because there's so many? Because there's so
many kids now see it, right, Hey, these running backs
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aren't getting paid in the NFL. I want to be
a wide receiver. You have seven on sevens at the
high school level. Teams now are consistently playing three four,
five wide receiver sets, So more guys are getting reps,
more guys are getting quality reps, and there's more quality
wide receivers out there. And you start to see the
salaries lugues of some of these wide receivers lately, and
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I'm not saying that Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson or
Cede Lamb they don't deserve it. They certainly do. But
if you're thinking about roster construction and building a team,
knowing that, yeah, in this day and age, you're probably
gonna have to pay forty million dollars for a league
average quarterback. Are you going to devote close to thirty
million dollars for a number one wide receiver when maybe
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for eighty percent of that guy you might be able
to get half off or even more and you can
allocate those resources everywhere. I think that wide receiver position
might be nearing a saturation point.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well. To further your point, if you look back at
the high school player pool for college football and in
the recruitment of that position and other positions for that matter,
they correlate directly to the National Football League as well.
The one position that there's always more prospects of in
every class is wide receiver. So if I pull up
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our database right now and I click the twenty twenty
five recruiting class, and every single player that we have
graded at the wide receiver position alone, this is just
wide receiver. There are seven hundred and sixty four players
at wide receiver alone nationally that we've graded in the
twenty twenty five class. If I were to take that
and change it to quarterback, there's four hundred and eighteen. Wow,
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if I were to change it to offensive tackle three
thirty eight. So if I were to change it to
defensive end four thirty nine. The wide receivers are so
much in bulk. It's literally a costco position. And to me,
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they're standing on every street corner. Yes, you'd like to
have a great one, but you can get four or
five really good ones, and then if you've got a
good quarterback, the quarterback will disperse that ball to those
guys and turn them into superstars. Right now, I don't
know if you can do the opposite though, aniche. I
don't know if you can do that and have a
below average player at quarterback and get the type of
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marquee production you want at the receiver position. But those
numbers bore out to be true at the high school level,
the college level, and the National Football League level, and
that hasn't changed at least at the high school level
in twenty years. It's always been like that. It's one
of the reasons why, Yes, do we want to grade
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a receiver high if we see one that we think
is really really elite. Yes, But the reality of it
is there's going to be more of those guys in
every other position, so we don't have to overgrade them
because there's plenty to go around.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And that's going to trickle down to the NFL, and
it has started to. You see guys like a Puka Nakua,
right fifth round pick, puts together one of the great
rookie seasons we've ever seen. Now to your point, his
quarterback last year was a healthy Matthew Stafford. I just
feel there's going to be fined at that position. Later
in the draft. You can get a guy around three,
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round four, round five. Now, having said that, you look
at most of the top receivers in the NFL, they
are first round picks. But again, when you're buying in bulk,
you can find some hidden gems later in the draft.
And I think so much of the NFL it really
comes down to how you construct your roster and you
know the resources that you have to allocate to a quarterback.
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So if you're a team that, for example, has a
quarterback and a rookie contract, yeah, sure, you can go
pay wide receiver for thirty million dollars because you're not
paying that quarterback a big time salary. Now, if he's
on a second contract, then you bring him back again
the going rate for a QB on his second contract,
if you know, again league average. We're talking league average, right,
like somebody who may or may not get you to
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five hundred. That's forty million dollars right now.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, yeah, exactly right. That's a huge sum. Now I'll
say this too about because this conversation started off with
wide receivers. And I tell kids and their parents this
all the time. Don't play wide receiver, Play corner. I
want to make money one day. Play corner. Are you
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taller than five to eleven? Screw playing wide out. They're
standing on every street corner, play corner back. That's where
the money is.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And that's true. And or you just do what Travis
Hunter does and he does both.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah right, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Let's bring it to college football. The first playoff rankings
come out a week from Tuesday, and so I want
to just take a look at some these conference races.
And I know you cover the ACC you do the
primetime game every week, on the ACC network for weeks,
it has felt like Clemson and Miami on a collision course.
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Clemson's got the one loss to Georgia. They've been rolling
team since Miami has had a little bit of drama.
It looks like there might be some magic fairy dust
on their season. They're unbeaten, they're in the top five. However, however,
three teams to watch for you've had SMU Now I
think you have them again this week. Yeah, Pittsburgh on
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Thursday had what three defensive touchdowns annihilated my alma mater,
Syracuse and Virginia Tech, who really stumbled out of the gate.
Don't look now there's one in the ACC and the
one loss that was the Friday night game I did
a little while ago against Miami on that Hail Mary
where replay overturned what appeared to be the game winning
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touchdown for Miami without indisputable video evidence. So Virginia the.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Way, why would you have a game that came down
to the.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Last play with a hill Mary at the end Friday night?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Literally cuss you every Saturday morning. You get like the
weekly but.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I get your texts. Are we are we right here
handicapping this acc race as Clemson Miami being fan house
level inevitable or SMU pit maybe even Virginia Tech have
a chance to crash this thing.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, we know that Clemson and Miami have the easiest path.
They don't play each other, and neither of them play
smu Itit's got the most difficult path and it starts
this week on the road at smu Something's got to
give there. That might be one of the first CFP
elimination games that that we will have so far as
we embark on the month of November. I do think,
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unfortunately Virginia Tech's not in the I don't think they're
in the broader converse, but they're in the conversation to
screw it up for somebody else because they're doing the
exact same thing they did last year, and that's get
hot down the stretch. And so yeah, I think they're
a bit problematic. But to me, Clemson, in my if
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you told me that tomorrow Clemson in Miami were playing,
I would say Clemson would win the game.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I would too, I would too, And that's no sled
on Miami and cam. Now I think Dabo Sweeney is
kind of going to be one of these guys, when
all is said and done, who comes out riding the
wave of everything going on with NIL and transfer Portal.
He's stuck to his guns.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
He's been able to preserve a lot of his culture
when a lot of teams have to reset their locker room,
their culture, their roster year to year. He's stuck to
his guns. And I think in the very new near
future he might be looking at people and say, look,
I told you so.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's another there's no question about it. And
ask Florida State right.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Now, SEC. This is gonna be fun because again no
divisions this year. Right, So top two play for the
league championship Texas A and M with the win over
hour producer Matt Hogan's LSU Tigers over the weekend, now
five and zero in the SEC that they have not
lost since the season opener. I wish you can kind
(19:18):
of fast forward to A and M Texas because the
SEC gives us that rivalry again, we get it at
the end of the season. You know, they got a
few more games between now and the Texas game, but
it's a manageable schedule. They beat LSU, they got South Carolina,
New Mexico, State at Auburn should win all three of
those and then home against Texas to close the season.
(19:42):
I don't know if we had A and M on
our Bingo card, but Mike Elco has done a tremendous job.
There's a very real chance they're gonna play in the
SEC Championship, win or lose that game against Texas.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I totally agree with you. He's done a remarkable job,
and I think it goes back to the offseason where
he basically just went in tould a team that was
left to him. Hey, if you're here for name, image
and likeness, if you're here for money, if you're here
for stardom, you need to go somewhere else. If you
want to play for a championship, you want to be developed,
you want to have an opportunity to earn everything that
you're capable of earning, then that's who we want here.
(20:18):
Because finally, that program seems to have some substance, They
have an identity, They know who they are. The guys
that are playing are actually playing for Texas, A and
M not themselves, and he deserves a ton of credit
for that and getting that team to the point that
they are at Listen, you're going to have a playoff
elimination game between Alabama and LSU in two weeks. You
could potentially have one between Georgia and Tennessee in a
(20:40):
couple of weeks, right. I think it's going to be
very interesting to see how this entire thing unfolds. It
was a tough loss for LSU, but the SEC and
I don't think Texas looks right right now. Something whatever
happened in that job game seems to be lingering a
(21:02):
little bit. I think Quinn Yours looks gun shy. He
is not just letting it rip and cutting it loose.
They seem a bit hesitant. Something's not quite right there,
and they've got to get back on track and see
what they can come up with down the stretch. So
I think it's a wide open, crazy race, not quite
as wide open as the Big twelve.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
No, and before we get in the Big twelve, Georgia
is an interesting one too, because most people look at Georgia,
Oh yeah, playoff team, right the Boston Alabama, they almost
came back and win, They beat Texas, They got a
pretty tough closing stretch. They still have to go to
Ole Miss. They still play Tennessee. Those are a couple
of tough games left on their ledger, and you know,
(21:44):
you lose one and now you're on the playoff bubble.
You lose two, you're not getting into the playoffs. So
the SEC is gonna be a while finished. The Big
twelve and I've had a few Big twelve games this year.
BYU's defense is legitimate. I don't think of if people
are talking about Iowach State and I'll tell you what.
Colorado State and Colorado the two quarterbacks that they have
(22:08):
are difference makers, Avery Williams and River Sanders. And when
you have a quarterback in college football.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You have a chance, there's no doubt about it. And
you take a look at that schedule in Colorado's case,
which looked so daunting prior to the season beginning, and
Oklahoma State has fallen flat, Kansas has fallen flat, Utah
has fallen flat, while Colorado has elevated and now they're
race smacking the thick of it, which is crazy to think.
(22:34):
And they deserve a ton of credit because off of
the North Dakota State game, the lost to Nebraska, it
really started to look like we're going to see much
more of the same. It looked like a team where
you said, if you took number twelve and number two
off of that roster, they're a one and eleveneen and
now all of a sudden, they're playing some complimentary football
as a team in the month of November getting hot.
(22:56):
I think that the Big Twelve is fascinating and it's
it's gonna make for a great November.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah you get, you get Barmageddon and ioway State Kansas
State at the end of the year, which could be
for at spot in the Big Twelve Championship. The team
that I think could create trouble and their record is
very deceiving, is Kansas. Kansas has suffered the slings and
arrows of outrageous fortune.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
On a weekly business.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's a good team. They return everybody from a nine
win team a year ago. They've had more close losses
and more bounces go against them. They're going to beat
somebody at some point and someone's gonna look at the
record and go, how do you lose to Kansas? No, No,
it's pretty good Kansas team talent wise. B YU I
think has the softest exit ramp. Yes World Championship. They
(23:43):
beat UCF pretty handily at Utah, which was the preseason
pick to win the league and they got quarterback issues.
They're oc resigned. They should beat Utah in Salt Lake.
They get Kansas at home at Arizona State, who's better.
I don't think good enough to be BYU And then
you close against Houston. They should go four and oh,
(24:05):
at the very least three and one. I think get
a Big twelve championship.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, I'm with you. I feel good about them, and
for what you said initially, defensively, they're a handful and
I you know, I think that when you're in a
league that has to this point been fairly average on
that side of the ball, and you have a leg
up and you have the opportunity to steal a possession
or two per game to give back to your offense,
(24:31):
that's where b why you get an advantage.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Let's go to the Big ten. I want to get
to Indiana in a moment because it's such a great
story and this team is now eight to no. But
I want to start with Oregon, who's the number one
team in the country. Here's my fear about Oregon. All Right,
you're about to go into a world that you're not
familiar with you signed up to play in the Big
Ten with Washington and USC and UCLA. You know what
(24:57):
that means. You go to Michigan and event. You know
what that means, you go to Madison, Wisconsin in November. Football,
different style of football. I know Michigan can't throw the ball, right,
they're still pretty good on defense that they can run
the ball. It's going to be cold and arbor probably
this weekend. I haven't looked at the temperature. But this
is also the point the season right where I would
(25:21):
imagine that, you know, maybe travel gets to you a
little bit. And so far I give Idaho Oregon this.
They've only had to go to Purdue, right there are
others at UCLA at Oregon State, so they've been in
Eugene for the most part. Well, now you're going to
go to Michigan, then two weeks later you're gonna go
to Wisconsin. I just feel there's a trap game here
(25:42):
waiting for Oregon.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
There could be. The one pushback I would give is
that I don't know if any of those teams offensively
are capable of playing from behind, and if Oregon gets
out on you with their offensive skill when they get
into space, I don't know how some of the other
teams are going to keep pace with them now if
they trip up, or they sputter, or for some reason
(26:05):
they go on the road. Like you said, you have
a weather element, you have temperatures, you have wind. Maybe
all of a sudden, you uncharacteristically turn it over twice
and wants a pick six. You know, all of those
sorts of things. You just look at the Syracuse Pittsburgh
game on Thursday, like.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I think it's more than that. I think again, you know,
Wisconsin Michigan, we're talking about two of the best home
field advantages in college football period. This isn't going to
Washington State in November. This isn't going to Arizona or
even Arizona State in November. With all due respect, you're
now walking in the November games in hostile environments, elements
(26:45):
potentially being a factor. And again, those fans, those visiting
fans for you, they now see that you got a
number one in front of your name. I mean, listen,
it's it's the super Bowl now for Michigan. It's the
super Bowl for Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It absolutely is. And we'll see if Oregon is capable
of handling that because I'm not saying Oregon's not the
number one team in the country a niche, but there's
a part of me that feels like Oregon is the
number one team in the country by default. I agree,
you know, not that they shouldn't be in the conversation,
not that they shouldn't be, but are they a convincing
(27:19):
number one? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Is Penn State at convincing number three? We're gonna find
out this weekend against Ohio State. I'm still not a
believer in Penn State.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Listen, they're undefeated. That's why they're number three. I think
there's plenty of holes to poke into the Nitney Lions,
and it's put up for shut up time, how many
times if they have this matchup where it's like, Okay,
we're taking the next step, we're getting over this hurdle,
and we are better than Ohio State, and they haven't
been able to pull it off. They've got to somehow
(27:53):
win this game. And I think all of the pressures
on Ohio State, all of the pressure is on Ryan
Day because they as a program very publicly pushed all
of their chips to the center of the table and
said we are going to build through free agency a
roster that we think will be unmatched to win a
national championship. Well, if you're going to do that, you
can't lose to Penn State. You can't lose to Michigan.
(28:13):
And so I think the pressure is on a house.
And by the way, how is that game at new
How is that not at night?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I have no idea that should be a primetime game
with all the eyeballs. It's number three against number four.
All right, lives, I'm drinking the Indiana kool aide. Kurt
Signetti had a great line a few weeks ago when
people were asking how he's gotten off to this great start.
He said, google me, I win everywhere I go. I
love that answer. This guy wanted James Madison. He's now
(28:47):
winning at Indiana. Kind of one of those guys for
We're saving assistant who had to wait his turn a
long time to prove that he could do it at
the Power Conference level as a head coach. And Indiana
is eight tozer And I tell you I hadn't bought
into them, And then a few weeks ago started watching
them and watching their highlights Man, they are impressive. I
(29:09):
don't know if from a talent standpoint, they have enough
to match up down the road with Oregon. They play
Ohio State in the regular season, but they are well coached,
they don't make mistakes. I'm buying Indiana. I am buying Indiana,
and when I look at their remaining schedule, Michigan State
on the road, they should win. They have Michigan at home.
I think they're a better team than Michigan at Ohio
(29:32):
State will be the challenge. And then against Purdue, I
wouldn't be surprised they finished with one loss and that
might put them right there in contention to play for
the Big Ten championship.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Couldn't agree more. Obviously, they've proven that they're more than
just Curtis Rourke, who's been a great player for him.
Tavian Jackson is the future of that program, and he's
shown why they got a tremendous amount of confidence in him.
They're just so physical and they play defense and they
beat you up at the point of attack and to
your point, you know, we overcomplicate things. Sometimes football is
(30:04):
about blocking, tackling and not beating yourself, right, So they're
not heavily penalized. They don't turn the ball over, they
play sound football in all three phases. They've got really
good quarterback play, and the schedule plays into their favor.
Not everybody can control the schedule. Sometimes, when you got
one that plays in your favor, you got to take
advantage of it. I think they're capable.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
The group of five, there's three teams that I got
in my crosshairs. One Boise State Ashton GenZ putting up
insane almost Barry Sanders esque numbers. Boise State right now
is the highest ranked group of five team in the
eight people. Whoever the highest ranked group of five champion
is And that's a big thing. You gotta win the
conference champion. They get an automatic spot in the College
(30:44):
Football playoff. But how cool would it be? Man nothing
against Boise State and gent who's having a great season
on the smurf turf. How cool would it be for
Army and Navy to play in the American Conference Championship
with a potential playoff spot on the line, and then
only to meet a week later in the Army Navy Game.
I just feel that would be just such a cool
(31:08):
moment for college football.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
It absolutely would be. It would be America's moment. Would
it's America's moment.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And it would literally be the thing everybody in the
country would need after the election.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Absolutely, that's exactly right. And listen, it's a it's a
great story that hasn't come to an end yet. I
still think that Boise State is a cut above. I
don't think I don't know if anybody play. I don't
think there are power of five teams right now that
want to play Boise State.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Boise State almost feed Oregon, remember.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Absolutely, In fact, they pushed Oregon around, so did Idaho.
Now I know that was in the first two weeks.
We've got to acknowledge improvement. Well, I think Boise State
is a handful in every in every way, shape or form.
And if they get in whoever they're seated again, get
a scratch egg and go, oh man, what why?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I agree? I again, and you have maybe the most
talented running back in the country and gent But what
Army's doing? They're seven to zero. Navy had it cooking.
They ran into a buzz saw against Notre Dame over
the weekend. But again, if Boise were to slip up
and lose its conference championship, for example, and then you
(32:29):
get Army and Navy, and let's say it's an undfeated
Army team and a one lost Navy team. The winner
of that game going to the college football Playoff. I
don't care where your allegiance lies. They automatically become, as
you said, America's team in that college football playoff. And
given what those guys sacrifice and what they do and
(32:51):
what they signed up for, just a ton of respect,
Just a ton of respect. I think it was Riley
Leonard had a really good quote after the Navy game.
He did, I mean, basically, so those guys are are heroes, man.
I mean, you know, they come out here, they have
such a regimented schedule, they're playing football, and for them
it's kind of their escape, their relief from everything else
(33:11):
that's demanded of them. And then they go out and
they serve a country. They do it at the highest level.
So again I'm rooting for that matchup. I think if
we get maybe in a conference championship, just be be
great for college football. Frankly, be great for America.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Just remember, just just imagine coaching in that world, all right,
You're not worried about name, image and likeness, you're not
worried about the transfer portal. You have your guys for
four years. They're not going anywhere. They will run through
a brick wall. You show up to the office every
day and you don't have an arrest warrant out for anybody, right,
I mean, it is the pinnacle of I would say coaching. Uh,
(33:52):
what's my my lack of phrase here, it's it's the
the coaching nirvana, if you will, because you're dealing with
any headaches. It's the purest form of coaching with no headaches.
And I mean unbelievable. And wouldn't everybody allowed to still
be able to do that?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I think we all would, especially the way college football
is changing. All Right, we will do this again next week.
We will do it next Monday. Nothing going on on
Tuesday except for the college football playoff rankings coming out, right.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Nothing else to do, nothing else to do, nowhere else
to see, nothing to see here. Ten episodes in Weekend Warriors.
We'll see you next week.
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