November 5, 2024 • 31 mins
This week on Weekend Warriors, Anish and Tom discuss the upcoming college football playoff rankings, break down which teams are in good positions to play in the first ever 12-team CFP and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're back at it for Weekend Warriors, and this is
a big, big week. We're taking this show on Monday,
November fourth. You know what happens Tuesday, NFL Train College
Football Playoff Franklin. Beyond that, beyond that, nothing on my rainer.
I know people are talking about it, but I don't
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want to delve down the politics black hole. But I
do want to bring something up that I think should
resonate with at least our viewers or listeners in the Carolinas.
And that is what we saw at Bank of America
Stadium one week ago on Saturday, when Luke Comb's big
Panthers fan, Eric Church, number of country music stars held
(00:46):
a concert. The concert for the Carolinas, David and Nicole
Tepper basically said, you have our stadium, we will give
you whatever you want. Eighty two thousand people packed Bank
of America Stadium. Every single dollar, every single scent that
was raised went to Hurricane Helene relief ended up being
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almost twenty five million dollars. Yeah. I look at that
through the prism of what you see mostly online right
the division the discord. I made the mistake of scrolling
on Twitter last night and reactivating the app and just
seeing what was out there, and I said, well, yeah,
this was a bad idea. It's just the same old
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the divisive politics, just toxic. And you know what we do.
We take somebody who we see an opinion, they put
it out, we don't agree with it. Then we build
a character off that, so now they represent everything we
don't agree with. Correct, That's kind of how we do it.
But I saw this play out at the Carolinas and
that money is going to people on the left, it's
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going to people on the right. It's going to people
who don't vote. We don't people in the middle, and
it doesn't matter. It is just us, the people, helping
each other. And I go back to this idea of community.
If you can get off the internet and if you
can just put that stuff away, I really believe, man,
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we are out to help each other more than I
think sometimes our media and our government gives us credit
for it.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Couldn't agree more. And it is about we the people.
I mean, say what you want about FEMA or the
reaction or the lack thereof A group of people started
off as a small group, got together to do a
big thing, and then the span of what a week, ten.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Days was it? Maybe we got it done.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay, got it done to the tune of as you reference,
probably around twenty five million dollars. And it didn't It
did not matter one bit whether you were black, white, purple, green,
or yellow. It didn't matter if you were male or female,
didn't matter if you were gay or straight, It did
not matter. What mattered was the people that were negatively
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affected were provided help from those who cared right. And
it's funny you bring this up this week, because first
of all, it was just a remarkable event and it
came off so well, which I loved, But it reminded
me of a I was traveling with my family down
I eighty five from Charlotte to Atlanta several years ago,
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and it was August, and it was hot, and there
was a massive pile up on I eighty five that
stopped traffic for like twenty something miles to the point
where there was nowhere to go, no off ramp. You
were stuck. So people started getting out of their cars, okay,
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and anybody that had water or some form of something
started walking up and down I eighty five. Myself and
my wife and my kids included checking on other people
in their cars, people who may have had small children,
and people who were elderly. If you were running out
of gas, you had to turn your car off because
you couldn't run your air condition. And I started to
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look around, and this was very much in the This
is right in the thick of a lot of the
the unrest and the racial divide and some of the
things that were happening in our country around twenty eighteen
nineteen twenty twenty. And I started looking around, and I'm like,
that person's a white person, and that person's a black person,
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and that person's Asian over there, and nobody knew it.
Nobody knew it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It didn't matter, it didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And I'm sitting there looking and I'm going, see, this
is humanity here. This is what the mainstream media and
social media and news outlets. I don't understand. Why are
we not championing this?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Because polarization leads to reaction, correct leads to megaphones and clickbait,
retweets and shares.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
There are stories, and you hear them all the time
about politicians who go on TV and they're on both
sides and they will spew some stuff and try to
get a SoundBite out and then you hear the same stories. Hey,
behind closed doors, they're actually normal. Huh, that's weird. I
think our perspective is unique because you know, we come
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from different backgrounds. We come from different to the country.
You grew up in California. I come from an immigrant
family in New Jersey. We're sort of like a ven
diagram where there's a lot of things we agree on.
There's probably some things that we don't agree on. There's
probably things that we don't care about, and let's be honest,
there's probably things that we just are not knowledgeable enough
about it, right. And I think that's probably a lot
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of people to do. And what we've gotten to do
for a long time where I think we have a
little bit of credibility here to talk about this is
we travel the country on a weekly basis.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
We're on the road a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
We go to places that you would say are the
bluest of blue and the reddest of red and everywhere
in between. Yeah, and I don't know about you, but
I say this with I say this with extreme authenticity.
For the most part, I would say the overwhelming part
my human interactions wherever I go are net neutral, too positive,
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and that is dealing with people. And I'm not talking
about social media, which again I just don't think the
comments section of anything, what you see on the interwebs,
I don't think that is grounded in reality. But people
who now live their lives in that space, they let
it become their reality. But when you go out and
you talk to people. One of the places that I
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love going to is Fargo, North Dakota. The kindest, warmest people.
And all I did there was I called a couple
FCS championship games for the North Dakota State Buison when
they were winning, and they won five in a row
part of their playoff run. And every time I go back,
the nicest people. When are you doing her games? When
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are you coming back? Hey, you gotta come here in
this summer. They invited me back there for a Ted
talks Fargo, North to Go Dakota. Like on the surface,
you think a guy looks like me, probably wouldn't you know,
be welcomed in Fargo, North Dakota. Not true, not true
at all, Like quite the opposite, the opposite. The point
I'm trying to make. When you're around real people, so
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much of that goes away when it's a real conversation
and it's not typed in capslock with seven exclamation points.
It is amazing how much common ground you can find.
And it just worries me that we're losing.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Sight of that could not agree more. It's funny, it
brings up I was having, this is gonna this, this
kind of lends to this conversation. So you know, Roxy Bernstein, correct, Sure, Okay,
So we were out at Stamford, right, northern California. Stamford
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about as blue as it can be. Roxy is a
Jewish man. His best friend growing up is an Asian
American who happened to have one of the coolest Asian
American cuisines called Chef Choose in Palado. So here's me
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Roxy Bernstein, our on site coordinating producer who happens to
be African American, and West Durham, and our sideline reporter
Dana Boyle, who you know very well, and we're all
sitting in this restaurant and the owners talking to us
and we're having this conversation. None of it was about politics.
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And then Roxy is the one that recommended that show
on Netflix called Fauda that I recommended to you right,
And your whole entire entry into this discussion just started
to remind me that I'm in that setting in northern California,
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in Palo Alto, and then two weeks later, I'm in Dallas, Texas,
which could not be any polar opposite than California. Yeah,
having the same interactions just with different people in a
different city. You are so right. And we go everywhere,
and we go everywhere, big studies, small cities, college towns,
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large towns, red and blue. And it's when you start
to really realize the interactions that you're having with people.
It's like makes you really think, to your point, man,
none of this other stuff is real, fabricated, it's not.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And I think sometimes we get it's so caught up
in it and we're all guilty of it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And what I've just found is what we do in
the online space is we are building characters. Tom Lougan,
Bill says something that I don't agree with. Yeah, okay,
so now I blanket hate him now forever. Well, not
only that, now you subscribe to everything else I don't like. Yeah, correct,
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So you basically become a villain. And now it gives
me free reign to call you whatever and say whatever.
And what I'm doing is I'm stripping you of your humanity,
and in return, my reaction is doing the same exact thing.
To me, it's the same effect. I'm stripping myself of
humanity because I've been stopping and I'm not seeing you
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as a human being. And I think sometimes you have
to realize everybody grew up differently, everybody had different experiences
growing up. I don't know, I don't. To me, this
is just about humanity, like when we talk to people
in person, we're all human beings. We all have a story,
we all have a reason. We just need to respect that.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That's all enough said. Absolutely, that's tag America. That's it America,
ladies and gentlemen. The weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Close to the episode caught by Feeling Touchdown Carolina Weekend Warriors.
So this was a tweet that has been making the
rounds and it caught my attention. Sam Block at the
Block Spot, we did this out and this was before
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this past weekend. Anthony Richardson is twenty two, benched, Bryce
Young Is twenty three, benched, Trey Lance Is twenty four, benched,
Justin Fields twenty five, Will Levis twenty five Zach Wilson
twenty five, Mac Jones twenty six, can't he pick it?
Twenty six? Bench bench, bench benched, and then he ends
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it with the NFL has a QB development problem. I
kind of go back to this. A team that has
figured it out is green Bay Sit watch and.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Have patience for two generations now.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Far to Rogers to love. And what green Bay has
been able to do is have these guys watch, learn,
learn the playbook, develop, get guys comfortable playing under center.
Yet in a copycat league, I can't figure out why
nobody wants to copy them, and I have a theory.
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I think it's because of the rookie contracts, where Okay,
if it doesn't work right away, you're not paying them
what you used to pay them as a especially your
first rounder, so you move on and you go take
another guy, instead of actually putting your asset allocation into
development and making sure that a guy who can be
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a franchise changer and can keep you in playoff contention
for a decade plus can be your guy. It just
feels like we're rushing these guys and if it's not
there right away, cut bait, move on, Go get the
next one.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, we're not only are we rushing it, we're also
probably not considering considering all of the different variables involved, environment,
coaching staff, system, personnel around you, of a variety of
different things. Combined with to your point, being thrown to
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the wolves right away and your chances of succeeding the
higher level of a draft pick that you are, they
incrementally go up on the bus factor right as opposed
to I mean, I can still remember Aaron Rodgers base
on that draft day and just complete and utter disappointment, amazement,
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completely stunned, not realizing it was the best thing that
ever happened to it. Right, Jordan Love probably felt the
same way. And I do think that there is some
merit to obviously sitting, but also sitting and Jordan Love
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is a prime example of this, sitting on a team
with good players so that you realize what good football
teams and players as a young player looks like around you.
Great point, right, that didn't happen. Let's just say, for
Baker Mayfield at Cleveland, not only did he not get
a chance to sit and learn and develop, but he
wasn't in a locker room with an elite level supporting
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cast right, So you never get that sense. Okay, well,
this is what it's supposed to be like, and I
think that matters. That matters as well, and you can
run down the list. Steve didn't play right away, right,
Steve Young didn't play right away, bounced around a little
bit lay in the USFL Right. We talked about Aaron Rodgers,
talked about Jordan Love. Patrick Mahomes is a great example
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of a couple of things. A guy that didn't play
right away, a team that had great players, and a
coach that realized this is no longer a we have
to This is no longer a system scenario. It used
to be, Okay, you're either going to play in the
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West Coast offense, you're gonna play in the multiple pro
style offense. And Andy Reid realized real quickly that if
we're going to be good with this guy, we need
to do what this guy does well.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Andy Reid came from what coaching.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Tree, the West Coast coaching tree.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And who was his head coach when he was in
Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Mike Holmgriman, right, and before that it was Bill Watson
San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Steve Young's a good one. You grew up on the
West Coast. Were you a Niners fan?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I was a huge Joe Montana fan, Like huge, as in,
my daughter's middle name is Montana. Like my room. If
you were in my office right now, you would see
no fewer than probably ten different autographed items from Joe Montana.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Okay, Steve Young to me was a great example because
he had the bust to label on him early in
his career on some bad teams. Yep, he had to
wait a long time, a long time to get that
second chance. He got to San Francisco. You had Montana,
who up until the end of his career was regarded
as the greatest quarterback of all time. Correct, And so
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you're not playing behind Joe, and then Joe has some
injuries starting nineteen ninety, Young gets in there, and now
way this guy can play, and he's younger at some point.
It was sort of that far Roger situation. But Steve
Young was the guy where he was thrown into the
fire and then thrown to the wolves on some bad
Buccaneers team's really bad, really bad, and it took them
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a long time to kind of find that second wind.
There's others like that, and we talked about it on
an earlier show, all these second chance quarterbacks, you know,
making the most of their opportunities. You're watching what Sam
Darnold is doing. Baker in Tampa. I guess I come
to this and you played the position. In the modern age,
we get so enamored by the outlier. Well, look at
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what CJ. Stroud did, Look at what Caleb Williams and
Jayden Daniels are doing. Look at what Cam Newton did
right Andrew Luck and so everybody looks at the outlier
and says, well, if my guy can't do that right away,
then you need to go find the guy who does.
When the reality is those guys are kind of unicorns,
and they don't They're not happening every day. These are
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rare occurrences, and you know, maybe we're saying a little
more of it, but but what is the middle ground here?
If you're is a is it a philosophy? Were Maybe
if you're a contender, you're you're stashing a guy in
the first and second round. So if you're the Ravens
and you have Lamar Jackson, maybe you take a guy
late round one, late round two and say, okay, let's
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sit him, let's watch them develop and we'll see what
he can do.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Look at Atlanta. Just who's that what Atlanta just did,
what Atlanta did with Pets Okay, absolutely absolutely, I think
that's another great That's another great example is now the
knock is that.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
He's significantly older because of the circumstances that he played
in college football with the pandemic and red shirting and
medical red shirting. But that that's that's the prime example.
And the and and the Falcons were probably figuring, we're
not going to be in this draft spot again for
some time, meaning they felt like they were building a
you know, a competent roster. And and if if there
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was a time to do it with with the age
of Kirk Cousins, this was the time to do it.
You bring up a great point.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
And it's an interesting you bring up Pennix because the
Falcons were panned, They got killed for taking Pennix right
after they signed Cousins.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yep, yep, crushed. But I would do that.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Why wouldn't you go get another weapon, Why wouldn't you
go get a pass rusher? Why wouldn't you do this? Well,
because if you have a young quarterback in the NFL,
you got a chance to be a contender for a
long time, and Kirk Cousins is closer to the end
than he is to even the middle. Yeah, it's moving
college football crazy weekend Texas A and M going down.
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You had the Ohio State Penn State game YEP at SMU, which,
now with Clemson losing to Louisville is wow, the driver's
seat to play for an ACC championship in their first year.
Tuesday is going to be fascinating, not only for the
NFL trade deadline, but because of the football Playoff rankings
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being revealed. And I think the shock to the system
always is there's a couple of teams that are lower
than what the AP pole has them, and there are
a couple of teams that jump much higher than where
they are in the AP pole. So I think if
you start from the top to me, Oregon they're the
only undefeated team that is amongst the power conferences. They
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have the Ohio State win. I think Oregon, even though
they had some close calls early, to me, they're a
lock as one.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Of the top four. I totally agree probably number one. Yes,
And I think we should remind people too that the
AP pole has absolutely zero bearing involvement. It's not even
in the room. When it comes to the college football plaoff,
a lot of people may feel like, well that's the
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kind of the starting point. No, they don't even look
at it. It'sn't even come into the room, and so
they are starting from scratch. And what I think is
always interesting about the first iteration is what is the
eye test reveal? Because it is very real. So for example,
look at Indiana right now, what are they going to
do with the Hoosiers? Who have you have to play
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Michigan if you have to play Ohio State. But when
you watch them and you see how they won, they dominate.
The eye test is going to help them, right, yes,
So what do you do with them? If you look?
SMU is another prime example. Just dismantled an undefeated pit team,
but they don't play Clemson or Miami during the regular season.
But their only loss is by three points to a
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really good BYU team.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And I did that game. You did that game, Paul,
sm You plummeted in the rankings after losing the BYU
because at the time BYU, this was what week two
or Week three BYU going into the year was picked
to finish near the bottom of the Big Twelve. That
was looked at as a bad loss. So sm you
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dropped and again in the AP rankings. When you have
that precipitous fall, it's hard to work your way back up.
BYU in the same vein they're undefeated. They have a
Kansas State win and an SMU win. Those wins look
really good. And so you know, I mentioned Oregon being undefeated.
BYU's undefeated, Miami's undefeated, Indiana undefeated among the Power Conference teams.
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So BYU is ninth in the latest A people. Well,
right now they're in the driver's seat in the Big
twelve with Iowa State losing this weekend. So they're going
to be a top four seed in the projected playoff bracket,
the top four highest ranked conference champions. And again you're projecting,
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so whoever's number in the conference right now would get
the top four seeds, which come with a buy. BYU
is going to be one of those top four. Miami
is going to be an interesting one because yes, they're
nine to zero. Have they looked otherworldly dominant. No, They've
had some close calls and they had cal Junia Tech
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Tech pore Do hung with them for the better part
of three quarters.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's Clemson going down does not
help the ACC's caused. And so I'll tell you this
is gonna sound crazy, and it may sound out like
it's out of left field. You just referenced Iowa State
going down, Kansas State goes down obviously BYU and the
driver's seat, and maybe the team that benefited the most
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by this weekend's results didn't even play. And that's Colorado. Yes,
that's Colorado. What does the committee do with Colorado? I
think it's going to be very very interesting as well.
And so this is gonna be it's gonna be so
fun to watch it unfold because I think, you know,
it's one thing to have top four or five teams
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and they're usually a cut above. This is one of
those years where I don't necessarily feel convinced we have
that as much. I think we've seen more flaws, more voids,
with more top level team than we've seen before, which
kind of evens out the playing pool. But when you
start getting ten to sixteen, it's gonna be hard to
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win through those teams to figure out who makes ten
to twelve.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Here's the interesting wildcard with Colorado as well. So they've
got a pretty manageable remaining.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Schedule, absolutely, but it didn't look like that in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
No, And they're four and one in conference. So if
they go on the road, they beat Texas Tech, if
they beat Utah, which is not what we thought, if
they win at Kansas who again what we thought, not
what we thought, and certainly Oklahoma State is not what
we thought. So if they run the table, which is
very doable, they're eight and one in conference, they will
play in the Big Twelve Championship. We're having a chance
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to play the Big Twelve Championship in that scenario, and
if they win the Big Twelve Championship, they'd have a
couple of losses on their ledger. There is now a
chance for a group of five team, potentially a Pussy
State if they win the Mountain West An Army, if
they win the American as an defeated champion, to leap
frog the Big Twelve champion in the final college football rankings,
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which would mean Colorado still would be in the playoff
if they're a Big Twelve champion, However, they would not
get a bye if Army or a Boise State is
ranked higher than them. So that's interesting because those top
four seeds, it's not the top four power conference champions.
It's the top four conference champions who have the highest
ranking in the college footballlayoff rankings. So you gotta win
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your league and then it's where you're ranked. And so
if it is a team from the Sunbelt or the
Mountain West or the American Conference, yes there is a
chance you can leap frog it. Most years, you don't
expect that. This year is a little different. The other
one that I'm kind of looking at is I'm curious
to see how we solve the SECD puzzle because it's
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getting really muddy. You've got Georgia's sitting there at seven
and one. Tennessee is seven and one. They got the
loss to Arkansas, but Bama's got two losses, LSU's got
two losses A and m All Miss. They've got two losses. Again,
to me, a third loss on the twelve team playoff
discussion should be a disqualifier.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, I agree, I think that the two losses or less.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, and the SEC has kind of beaten this drum. Well,
you know, we're beating up on each other and it's
you know six teams, right, I mean everyone else's too,
so is the Big Ten, So are these other leagues.
I'm curious how much the committee weighs that narrative, and
they weigh you know the fact that yeah, it's still
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a three loss team versus perceived iye test because now
after the SEC you need the Commity value EE test
more than you do metrics.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yes, very much so. And because the metrics I don't
think way in the favor of the SEC this time around,
because some of their blue bloods have played poorly. Right,
Alabama has played undisciplined for football. Georgia can take us
to just turn the ball over every time they take
the field, right, Old Miss is already on. Think about this.
This coming weekend, we have two games that involve three
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blue bloods of college football in the SEC that will
be elimination games for the College Football Playoff. If a
three lost threshold doesn't get you in, so that means
either LSU or Alabama's out, Georgia or Old Miss is out.
I'll think about that.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
That would be wild, wild wild. I also look at
a team like for example, Texas A and M, which
going into this past weekend before they lost they were
the only team undefeated in conference play. Yeah, but again,
the committee has a different view on things, ie tests
who you play, They're gonna look at their quarterback position.
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M oh, Marcel Reid, Connor Wigman, Well, who is it, right?
I mean a week ago they didn't well and we
saw Reid play against South Carolina and they lose. Yeah,
to me, that factors into how you evaluate a team
like Texas A and M, which again a week ago
solidly in get blown out by South Carolina. I'm not
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so sure.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah. The other thing too, is and I know the
Committee's not supposed to do this, but will they pad
the schedules of teams in the top ten by including
people ranks twenty one to twenty five? Say Vanderbilt, Yeah,
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say Missouri. Right to try to padd the schedule of
the upper tier teams to further your point earlier in
relationship to the cannibalization of the SEC.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Right, and that again would depend where you put even
a South Carolina if you're in the HCC. Is Louisville
still in the top twenty five? Is Pittsburgh still in
the top twenty five? A team that was undefeated going
into this past weekend. You have all of that. Uh,
the one that I think could be intriguing as a
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one loss team is Penn State. Had they beaten Ohio State,
and that was a game they should have won and
could have won. Had they won that game, they had
a legitimate case for one or two. But because they
lost that game, and when you look at their schedule
and who they've beaten, West Virginia, Bowling Green. Yes, they
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have a win against Illinois who was ranked at the time,
UCLA and USC Wisconsin. Again, the Big Ten is.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Down top to bottom, The Big Ten is down.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Where's the win that really moves the needle for you
with Penn State?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Correct? I know? I know now they'll be favored in
their remaining games, which gets them into the playoff obviously
with one with one loss. But given the track record
of that football team in big games, do you think
they'd win a playoff game? That's another question have to
legitimately ask.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I saw a projection going into the weekend which had
Penn State is the number five seed playing Boise State
in round one, And I mean, I would I bet
the marble's on Boise State if.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I wouldn't want to play Boise State. If Boise State
was in the ACC right now, they'd be doing the
exact same thing, smud do. That's how good Boise stated.
They're not your run of the mill group of five teams.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I got a running back who's a heismand Trophy winner.
This is gonna be fun. We got the trade deadline again,
we got the playoff rankings. I know we got the election,
but if you didn't listen to the beginning.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Of the show, humanity wins.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Humanity wins. It always does. Be nice to your neighbors.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Again.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Everyone has their reasons. You don't know all of them.
People are people, and at the end of the day,
if something happens to you, you're sick, you get hurt,
you need someone to pick up your kid from school,
and you got a neighbor willing to help. Who they
voted for, it doesn't matter. They're your neighbor. Hopefully they're
your friend. It's not worth losing friendships and family members
(31:08):
over Humanity wins. I hope humanity. I hope we the
people can rise above. I think sometimes what we see
from television and social media and even are so called leaders.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yep Well said
We're back at it for Weekend Warriors, and this is
a big, big week. We're taking this show on Monday,
November fourth. You know what happens Tuesday, NFL Train College
Football Playoff Franklin. Beyond that, beyond that, nothing on my rainer.
I know people are talking about it, but I don't
(00:21):
want to delve down the politics black hole. But I
do want to bring something up that I think should
resonate with at least our viewers or listeners in the Carolinas.
And that is what we saw at Bank of America
Stadium one week ago on Saturday, when Luke Comb's big
Panthers fan, Eric Church, number of country music stars held
(00:46):
a concert. The concert for the Carolinas, David and Nicole
Tepper basically said, you have our stadium, we will give
you whatever you want. Eighty two thousand people packed Bank
of America Stadium. Every single dollar, every single scent that
was raised went to Hurricane Helene relief ended up being
(01:07):
almost twenty five million dollars. Yeah. I look at that
through the prism of what you see mostly online right
the division the discord. I made the mistake of scrolling
on Twitter last night and reactivating the app and just
seeing what was out there, and I said, well, yeah,
this was a bad idea. It's just the same old
(01:28):
the divisive politics, just toxic. And you know what we do.
We take somebody who we see an opinion, they put
it out, we don't agree with it. Then we build
a character off that, so now they represent everything we
don't agree with. Correct, That's kind of how we do it.
But I saw this play out at the Carolinas and
that money is going to people on the left, it's
(01:49):
going to people on the right. It's going to people
who don't vote. We don't people in the middle, and
it doesn't matter. It is just us, the people, helping
each other. And I go back to this idea of community.
If you can get off the internet and if you
can just put that stuff away, I really believe, man,
(02:09):
we are out to help each other more than I
think sometimes our media and our government gives us credit
for it.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Couldn't agree more. And it is about we the people.
I mean, say what you want about FEMA or the
reaction or the lack thereof A group of people started
off as a small group, got together to do a
big thing, and then the span of what a week, ten.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Days was it? Maybe we got it done.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay, got it done to the tune of as you reference,
probably around twenty five million dollars. And it didn't It
did not matter one bit whether you were black, white, purple, green,
or yellow. It didn't matter if you were male or female,
didn't matter if you were gay or straight, It did
not matter. What mattered was the people that were negatively
(02:59):
affected were provided help from those who cared right. And
it's funny you bring this up this week, because first
of all, it was just a remarkable event and it
came off so well, which I loved, But it reminded
me of a I was traveling with my family down
I eighty five from Charlotte to Atlanta several years ago,
(03:22):
and it was August, and it was hot, and there
was a massive pile up on I eighty five that
stopped traffic for like twenty something miles to the point
where there was nowhere to go, no off ramp. You
were stuck. So people started getting out of their cars, okay,
(03:45):
and anybody that had water or some form of something
started walking up and down I eighty five. Myself and
my wife and my kids included checking on other people
in their cars, people who may have had small children,
and people who were elderly. If you were running out
of gas, you had to turn your car off because
you couldn't run your air condition. And I started to
(04:07):
look around, and this was very much in the This
is right in the thick of a lot of the
the unrest and the racial divide and some of the
things that were happening in our country around twenty eighteen
nineteen twenty twenty. And I started looking around, and I'm like,
that person's a white person, and that person's a black person,
(04:29):
and that person's Asian over there, and nobody knew it.
Nobody knew it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It didn't matter, it didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And I'm sitting there looking and I'm going, see, this
is humanity here. This is what the mainstream media and
social media and news outlets. I don't understand. Why are
we not championing this?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Because polarization leads to reaction, correct leads to megaphones and clickbait,
retweets and shares.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
There are stories, and you hear them all the time
about politicians who go on TV and they're on both
sides and they will spew some stuff and try to
get a SoundBite out and then you hear the same stories. Hey,
behind closed doors, they're actually normal. Huh, that's weird. I
think our perspective is unique because you know, we come
(05:30):
from different backgrounds. We come from different to the country.
You grew up in California. I come from an immigrant
family in New Jersey. We're sort of like a ven
diagram where there's a lot of things we agree on.
There's probably some things that we don't agree on. There's
probably things that we don't care about, and let's be honest,
there's probably things that we just are not knowledgeable enough
about it, right. And I think that's probably a lot
(05:53):
of people to do. And what we've gotten to do
for a long time where I think we have a
little bit of credibility here to talk about this is
we travel the country on a weekly basis.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
We're on the road a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
We go to places that you would say are the
bluest of blue and the reddest of red and everywhere
in between. Yeah, and I don't know about you, but
I say this with I say this with extreme authenticity.
For the most part, I would say the overwhelming part
my human interactions wherever I go are net neutral, too positive,
(06:30):
and that is dealing with people. And I'm not talking
about social media, which again I just don't think the
comments section of anything, what you see on the interwebs,
I don't think that is grounded in reality. But people
who now live their lives in that space, they let
it become their reality. But when you go out and
you talk to people. One of the places that I
(06:52):
love going to is Fargo, North Dakota. The kindest, warmest people.
And all I did there was I called a couple
FCS championship games for the North Dakota State Buison when
they were winning, and they won five in a row
part of their playoff run. And every time I go back,
the nicest people. When are you doing her games? When
(07:13):
are you coming back? Hey, you gotta come here in
this summer. They invited me back there for a Ted
talks Fargo, North to Go Dakota. Like on the surface,
you think a guy looks like me, probably wouldn't you know,
be welcomed in Fargo, North Dakota. Not true, not true
at all, Like quite the opposite, the opposite. The point
I'm trying to make. When you're around real people, so
(07:35):
much of that goes away when it's a real conversation
and it's not typed in capslock with seven exclamation points.
It is amazing how much common ground you can find.
And it just worries me that we're losing.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Sight of that could not agree more. It's funny, it
brings up I was having, this is gonna this, this
kind of lends to this conversation. So you know, Roxy Bernstein, correct, Sure, Okay,
So we were out at Stamford, right, northern California. Stamford
(08:09):
about as blue as it can be. Roxy is a
Jewish man. His best friend growing up is an Asian
American who happened to have one of the coolest Asian
American cuisines called Chef Choose in Palado. So here's me
(08:36):
Roxy Bernstein, our on site coordinating producer who happens to
be African American, and West Durham, and our sideline reporter
Dana Boyle, who you know very well, and we're all
sitting in this restaurant and the owners talking to us
and we're having this conversation. None of it was about politics.
(08:59):
And then Roxy is the one that recommended that show
on Netflix called Fauda that I recommended to you right,
And your whole entire entry into this discussion just started
to remind me that I'm in that setting in northern California,
(09:21):
in Palo Alto, and then two weeks later, I'm in Dallas, Texas,
which could not be any polar opposite than California. Yeah,
having the same interactions just with different people in a
different city. You are so right. And we go everywhere,
and we go everywhere, big studies, small cities, college towns,
(09:43):
large towns, red and blue. And it's when you start
to really realize the interactions that you're having with people.
It's like makes you really think, to your point, man,
none of this other stuff is real, fabricated, it's not.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And I think sometimes we get it's so caught up
in it and we're all guilty of it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And what I've just found is what we do in
the online space is we are building characters. Tom Lougan,
Bill says something that I don't agree with. Yeah, okay,
so now I blanket hate him now forever. Well, not
only that, now you subscribe to everything else I don't like. Yeah, correct,
(10:24):
So you basically become a villain. And now it gives
me free reign to call you whatever and say whatever.
And what I'm doing is I'm stripping you of your humanity,
and in return, my reaction is doing the same exact thing.
To me, it's the same effect. I'm stripping myself of
humanity because I've been stopping and I'm not seeing you
(10:45):
as a human being. And I think sometimes you have
to realize everybody grew up differently, everybody had different experiences
growing up. I don't know, I don't. To me, this
is just about humanity, like when we talk to people
in person, we're all human beings. We all have a story,
we all have a reason. We just need to respect that.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That's all enough said. Absolutely, that's tag America. That's it America,
ladies and gentlemen. The weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Close to the episode caught by Feeling Touchdown Carolina Weekend Warriors.
So this was a tweet that has been making the
rounds and it caught my attention. Sam Block at the
Block Spot, we did this out and this was before
(11:37):
this past weekend. Anthony Richardson is twenty two, benched, Bryce
Young Is twenty three, benched, Trey Lance Is twenty four, benched,
Justin Fields twenty five, Will Levis twenty five Zach Wilson
twenty five, Mac Jones twenty six, can't he pick it?
Twenty six? Bench bench, bench benched, and then he ends
(11:57):
it with the NFL has a QB development problem. I
kind of go back to this. A team that has
figured it out is green Bay Sit watch and.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Have patience for two generations now.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Far to Rogers to love. And what green Bay has
been able to do is have these guys watch, learn,
learn the playbook, develop, get guys comfortable playing under center.
Yet in a copycat league, I can't figure out why
nobody wants to copy them, and I have a theory.
(12:41):
I think it's because of the rookie contracts, where Okay,
if it doesn't work right away, you're not paying them
what you used to pay them as a especially your
first rounder, so you move on and you go take
another guy, instead of actually putting your asset allocation into
development and making sure that a guy who can be
(13:02):
a franchise changer and can keep you in playoff contention
for a decade plus can be your guy. It just
feels like we're rushing these guys and if it's not
there right away, cut bait, move on, Go get the
next one.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, we're not only are we rushing it, we're also
probably not considering considering all of the different variables involved, environment,
coaching staff, system, personnel around you, of a variety of
different things. Combined with to your point, being thrown to
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the wolves right away and your chances of succeeding the
higher level of a draft pick that you are, they
incrementally go up on the bus factor right as opposed
to I mean, I can still remember Aaron Rodgers base
on that draft day and just complete and utter disappointment, amazement,
(14:05):
completely stunned, not realizing it was the best thing that
ever happened to it. Right, Jordan Love probably felt the
same way. And I do think that there is some
merit to obviously sitting, but also sitting and Jordan Love
(14:27):
is a prime example of this, sitting on a team
with good players so that you realize what good football
teams and players as a young player looks like around you.
Great point, right, that didn't happen. Let's just say, for
Baker Mayfield at Cleveland, not only did he not get
a chance to sit and learn and develop, but he
wasn't in a locker room with an elite level supporting
(14:50):
cast right, So you never get that sense. Okay, well,
this is what it's supposed to be like, and I
think that matters. That matters as well, and you can
run down the list. Steve didn't play right away, right,
Steve Young didn't play right away, bounced around a little
bit lay in the USFL Right. We talked about Aaron Rodgers,
talked about Jordan Love. Patrick Mahomes is a great example
(15:13):
of a couple of things. A guy that didn't play
right away, a team that had great players, and a
coach that realized this is no longer a we have
to This is no longer a system scenario. It used
to be, Okay, you're either going to play in the
(15:34):
West Coast offense, you're gonna play in the multiple pro
style offense. And Andy Reid realized real quickly that if
we're going to be good with this guy, we need
to do what this guy does well.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Andy Reid came from what coaching.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Tree, the West Coast coaching tree.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And who was his head coach when he was in
Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Mike Holmgriman, right, and before that it was Bill Watson
San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Steve Young's a good one. You grew up on the
West Coast. Were you a Niners fan?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I was a huge Joe Montana fan, Like huge, as in,
my daughter's middle name is Montana. Like my room. If
you were in my office right now, you would see
no fewer than probably ten different autographed items from Joe Montana.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Okay, Steve Young to me was a great example because
he had the bust to label on him early in
his career on some bad teams. Yep, he had to
wait a long time, a long time to get that
second chance. He got to San Francisco. You had Montana,
who up until the end of his career was regarded
as the greatest quarterback of all time. Correct, And so
(16:40):
you're not playing behind Joe, and then Joe has some
injuries starting nineteen ninety, Young gets in there, and now
way this guy can play, and he's younger at some point.
It was sort of that far Roger situation. But Steve
Young was the guy where he was thrown into the
fire and then thrown to the wolves on some bad
Buccaneers team's really bad, really bad, and it took them
(17:02):
a long time to kind of find that second wind.
There's others like that, and we talked about it on
an earlier show, all these second chance quarterbacks, you know,
making the most of their opportunities. You're watching what Sam
Darnold is doing. Baker in Tampa. I guess I come
to this and you played the position. In the modern age,
we get so enamored by the outlier. Well, look at
(17:25):
what CJ. Stroud did, Look at what Caleb Williams and
Jayden Daniels are doing. Look at what Cam Newton did
right Andrew Luck and so everybody looks at the outlier
and says, well, if my guy can't do that right away,
then you need to go find the guy who does.
When the reality is those guys are kind of unicorns,
and they don't They're not happening every day. These are
(17:50):
rare occurrences, and you know, maybe we're saying a little
more of it, but but what is the middle ground here?
If you're is a is it a philosophy? Were Maybe
if you're a contender, you're you're stashing a guy in
the first and second round. So if you're the Ravens
and you have Lamar Jackson, maybe you take a guy
late round one, late round two and say, okay, let's
(18:10):
sit him, let's watch them develop and we'll see what
he can do.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Look at Atlanta. Just who's that what Atlanta just did,
what Atlanta did with Pets Okay, absolutely absolutely, I think
that's another great That's another great example is now the
knock is that.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
He's significantly older because of the circumstances that he played
in college football with the pandemic and red shirting and
medical red shirting. But that that's that's the prime example.
And the and and the Falcons were probably figuring, we're
not going to be in this draft spot again for
some time, meaning they felt like they were building a
you know, a competent roster. And and if if there
(18:49):
was a time to do it with with the age
of Kirk Cousins, this was the time to do it.
You bring up a great point.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
And it's an interesting you bring up Pennix because the
Falcons were panned, They got killed for taking Pennix right
after they signed Cousins.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yep, yep, crushed. But I would do that.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Why wouldn't you go get another weapon, Why wouldn't you
go get a pass rusher? Why wouldn't you do this? Well,
because if you have a young quarterback in the NFL,
you got a chance to be a contender for a
long time, and Kirk Cousins is closer to the end
than he is to even the middle. Yeah, it's moving
college football crazy weekend Texas A and M going down.
(19:33):
You had the Ohio State Penn State game YEP at SMU, which,
now with Clemson losing to Louisville is wow, the driver's
seat to play for an ACC championship in their first year.
Tuesday is going to be fascinating, not only for the
NFL trade deadline, but because of the football Playoff rankings
(19:54):
being revealed. And I think the shock to the system
always is there's a couple of teams that are lower
than what the AP pole has them, and there are
a couple of teams that jump much higher than where
they are in the AP pole. So I think if
you start from the top to me, Oregon they're the
only undefeated team that is amongst the power conferences. They
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have the Ohio State win. I think Oregon, even though
they had some close calls early, to me, they're a
lock as one.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Of the top four. I totally agree probably number one. Yes,
And I think we should remind people too that the
AP pole has absolutely zero bearing involvement. It's not even
in the room. When it comes to the college football plaoff,
a lot of people may feel like, well that's the
(20:48):
kind of the starting point. No, they don't even look
at it. It'sn't even come into the room, and so
they are starting from scratch. And what I think is
always interesting about the first iteration is what is the
eye test reveal? Because it is very real. So for example,
look at Indiana right now, what are they going to
do with the Hoosiers? Who have you have to play
(21:09):
Michigan if you have to play Ohio State. But when
you watch them and you see how they won, they dominate.
The eye test is going to help them, right, yes,
So what do you do with them? If you look?
SMU is another prime example. Just dismantled an undefeated pit team,
but they don't play Clemson or Miami during the regular season.
But their only loss is by three points to a
(21:30):
really good BYU team.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And I did that game. You did that game, Paul,
sm You plummeted in the rankings after losing the BYU
because at the time BYU, this was what week two
or Week three BYU going into the year was picked
to finish near the bottom of the Big Twelve. That
was looked at as a bad loss. So sm you
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dropped and again in the AP rankings. When you have
that precipitous fall, it's hard to work your way back up.
BYU in the same vein they're undefeated. They have a
Kansas State win and an SMU win. Those wins look
really good. And so you know, I mentioned Oregon being undefeated.
BYU's undefeated, Miami's undefeated, Indiana undefeated among the Power Conference teams.
(22:17):
So BYU is ninth in the latest A people. Well,
right now they're in the driver's seat in the Big
twelve with Iowa State losing this weekend. So they're going
to be a top four seed in the projected playoff bracket,
the top four highest ranked conference champions. And again you're projecting,
(22:38):
so whoever's number in the conference right now would get
the top four seeds, which come with a buy. BYU
is going to be one of those top four. Miami
is going to be an interesting one because yes, they're
nine to zero. Have they looked otherworldly dominant. No, They've
had some close calls and they had cal Junia Tech
(23:00):
Tech pore Do hung with them for the better part
of three quarters.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's Clemson going down does not
help the ACC's caused. And so I'll tell you this
is gonna sound crazy, and it may sound out like
it's out of left field. You just referenced Iowa State
going down, Kansas State goes down obviously BYU and the
driver's seat, and maybe the team that benefited the most
(23:26):
by this weekend's results didn't even play. And that's Colorado. Yes,
that's Colorado. What does the committee do with Colorado? I
think it's going to be very very interesting as well.
And so this is gonna be it's gonna be so
fun to watch it unfold because I think, you know,
it's one thing to have top four or five teams
(23:47):
and they're usually a cut above. This is one of
those years where I don't necessarily feel convinced we have
that as much. I think we've seen more flaws, more voids,
with more top level team than we've seen before, which
kind of evens out the playing pool. But when you
start getting ten to sixteen, it's gonna be hard to
(24:08):
win through those teams to figure out who makes ten
to twelve.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Here's the interesting wildcard with Colorado as well. So they've
got a pretty manageable remaining.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Schedule, absolutely, but it didn't look like that in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
No, And they're four and one in conference. So if
they go on the road, they beat Texas Tech, if
they beat Utah, which is not what we thought, if
they win at Kansas who again what we thought, not
what we thought, and certainly Oklahoma State is not what
we thought. So if they run the table, which is
very doable, they're eight and one in conference, they will
play in the Big Twelve Championship. We're having a chance
(24:43):
to play the Big Twelve Championship in that scenario, and
if they win the Big Twelve Championship, they'd have a
couple of losses on their ledger. There is now a
chance for a group of five team, potentially a Pussy
State if they win the Mountain West An Army, if
they win the American as an defeated champion, to leap
frog the Big Twelve champion in the final college football rankings,
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which would mean Colorado still would be in the playoff
if they're a Big Twelve champion, However, they would not
get a bye if Army or a Boise State is
ranked higher than them. So that's interesting because those top
four seeds, it's not the top four power conference champions.
It's the top four conference champions who have the highest
ranking in the college footballlayoff rankings. So you gotta win
(25:29):
your league and then it's where you're ranked. And so
if it is a team from the Sunbelt or the
Mountain West or the American Conference, yes there is a
chance you can leap frog it. Most years, you don't
expect that. This year is a little different. The other
one that I'm kind of looking at is I'm curious
to see how we solve the SECD puzzle because it's
(25:49):
getting really muddy. You've got Georgia's sitting there at seven
and one. Tennessee is seven and one. They got the
loss to Arkansas, but Bama's got two losses, LSU's got
two losses A and m All Miss. They've got two losses. Again,
to me, a third loss on the twelve team playoff
discussion should be a disqualifier.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, I agree, I think that the two losses or less.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, and the SEC has kind of beaten this drum. Well,
you know, we're beating up on each other and it's
you know six teams, right, I mean everyone else's too,
so is the Big Ten, So are these other leagues.
I'm curious how much the committee weighs that narrative, and
they weigh you know the fact that yeah, it's still
(26:36):
a three loss team versus perceived iye test because now
after the SEC you need the Commity value EE test
more than you do metrics.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yes, very much so. And because the metrics I don't
think way in the favor of the SEC this time around,
because some of their blue bloods have played poorly. Right,
Alabama has played undisciplined for football. Georgia can take us
to just turn the ball over every time they take
the field, right, Old Miss is already on. Think about this.
This coming weekend, we have two games that involve three
(27:10):
blue bloods of college football in the SEC that will
be elimination games for the College Football Playoff. If a
three lost threshold doesn't get you in, so that means
either LSU or Alabama's out, Georgia or Old Miss is out.
I'll think about that.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
That would be wild, wild wild. I also look at
a team like for example, Texas A and M, which
going into this past weekend before they lost they were
the only team undefeated in conference play. Yeah, but again,
the committee has a different view on things, ie tests
who you play, They're gonna look at their quarterback position.
(27:50):
M oh, Marcel Reid, Connor Wigman, Well, who is it, right?
I mean a week ago they didn't well and we
saw Reid play against South Carolina and they lose. Yeah,
to me, that factors into how you evaluate a team
like Texas A and M, which again a week ago
solidly in get blown out by South Carolina. I'm not
(28:10):
so sure.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah. The other thing too, is and I know the
Committee's not supposed to do this, but will they pad
the schedules of teams in the top ten by including
people ranks twenty one to twenty five? Say Vanderbilt, Yeah,
(28:34):
say Missouri. Right to try to padd the schedule of
the upper tier teams to further your point earlier in
relationship to the cannibalization of the SEC.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Right, and that again would depend where you put even
a South Carolina if you're in the HCC. Is Louisville
still in the top twenty five? Is Pittsburgh still in
the top twenty five? A team that was undefeated going
into this past weekend. You have all of that. Uh,
the one that I think could be intriguing as a
(29:08):
one loss team is Penn State. Had they beaten Ohio State,
and that was a game they should have won and
could have won. Had they won that game, they had
a legitimate case for one or two. But because they
lost that game, and when you look at their schedule
and who they've beaten, West Virginia, Bowling Green. Yes, they
(29:29):
have a win against Illinois who was ranked at the time,
UCLA and USC Wisconsin. Again, the Big Ten is.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Down top to bottom, The Big Ten is down.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Where's the win that really moves the needle for you
with Penn State?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Correct? I know? I know now they'll be favored in
their remaining games, which gets them into the playoff obviously
with one with one loss. But given the track record
of that football team in big games, do you think
they'd win a playoff game? That's another question have to
legitimately ask.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I saw a projection going into the weekend which had
Penn State is the number five seed playing Boise State
in round one, And I mean, I would I bet
the marble's on Boise State if.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I wouldn't want to play Boise State. If Boise State
was in the ACC right now, they'd be doing the
exact same thing, smud do. That's how good Boise stated.
They're not your run of the mill group of five teams.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I got a running back who's a heismand Trophy winner.
This is gonna be fun. We got the trade deadline again,
we got the playoff rankings. I know we got the election,
but if you didn't listen to the beginning.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Of the show, humanity wins.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Humanity wins. It always does. Be nice to your neighbors.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Again.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Everyone has their reasons. You don't know all of them.
People are people, and at the end of the day,
if something happens to you, you're sick, you get hurt,
you need someone to pick up your kid from school,
and you got a neighbor willing to help. Who they
voted for, it doesn't matter. They're your neighbor. Hopefully they're
your friend. It's not worth losing friendships and family members
(31:08):
over Humanity wins. I hope humanity. I hope we the
people can rise above. I think sometimes what we see
from television and social media and even are so called leaders.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yep Well said
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