December 2, 2024 • 43 mins
This week on Weekend Warriors, Anish and Tom react to yet another outstanding performance by Bryce Young, debate who should make the first ever 12-team college football playoffs, discuss online shopping and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Black Friday marked the start of the holiday shopping season.
We're taping our show on Cyber Monday via zoom. So
I'm sure Logan Bill's got windows watching flash shells, flash
Flash sales, Cohle's Target, wherever you do your shopping, Amazon, Basics, Barn.
(00:21):
You know, I was thinking about this recently, actually over
the summer. I don't know about you. I do so
little of my quote unquote actual shopping in a physical
store because it's just here to do it online. And
so I've got a seven year old who you've met,
So when I take her into a department store, it's
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like taking her to Carowin's taking her to the amusement park. Yeah, wait,
what's this. I get to go in the clothes rack,
I get to run through the aisles. Hey, I want
this toy, I want this toy, I want this dress.
Because very rarely do we actually take her into a
physical store. You need something, Hey, grew out of a
her clothes, out of her shoes, just yeah them online.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's amazing. Yeah, you know, seven year old really no
concept of shopping, which I'm actually for. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I was gonna say, you should be very thankful for
that because I was on the other end of the spectrum.
So my wife says, you know, our daughter has never
done the like wake up at four o'clock in the
morning on Black Friday and physically go to all of
the stores and then come home by noon. Let's do that.
So that's literally I got in the road and drove
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in the car to drive up to Blacksburg. They got up,
they went shopping, completely depleted all of our finances. And
so I'm to the point where I got one that
understands the online component and the in store component, which
is dangerouserous.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's a Molotov cocktail for you. Yes, no doubt you're
gonna look at that credit card bill. Well why'd you
get both of them? Well, this was fifty in store,
but girls sixty five percent off online.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's right, But may I remind you that you still
spent thirty five percent, You still spent sixty percent, But
it was forty percent off, you still spent sixty percent.
See that. The whole girl math when it comes to
shopping and sales crushes me.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I remember when I lived in Connecticut, there used to
be this clothing store. I'm trying to think of the
name it was a men's warehouse or a joseph A Bank,
one of those types.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And it was down the street from where I used
to live. So when I would go out, or i'd
be walking to go get coffee or lunch, get pass
these stores and they would always have those big posters outside.
And every week it was one of those wild sales.
It was something along the lines of buy one, get
the second at seventy five percent off everything in the store,
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sixty five percent off today, buy one, get one free.
And all they did was just mark up the prices,
of course yellowed at retail, but just pop up a
number where the percent sign on the back end. Yeah,
very quickly you realize, oh yeah, well, this you know,
thirty dollars shirt that I'm getting, really isn't one hundred
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dollars shirt that's seventy dollars off. It's probably a fifteen
dollars shirt they just marked up, and now they're telling
you it's fifty percent off, And that's how they get you.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, they're they're three hundred dollars sport coat. What becomes
a six hundred dollars sport coat when you buy one
get one free.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Right, it's amazing, and it's still probably just as good
as a ninety nine dollars sport coat.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Exactly right, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The weekend close to the episode caught by failing touchdown
Carolina Weekend Warriors college football. We're going to start there
because we had a crazy weekend. We had enough carnage
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to make I think this next week and certainly what
happens Tuesday night and the following Tuesday awfully interesting when
the rankings come out. I want to start with one
game that I think tiped to Domino, and it was
the Georgia Georgia Tech game on Friday night, the eight
overtime game. I'm doing a game at ECU, drove back
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Friday watching that game late. Two things from the football perspective,
My gosh, when you have the ball inside the five
yard line, why does everybody go shotgun? Why don't teams
go under center? If you think about it right, you
prioritize red zone goal to go efficiency. Even if you're
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a shotgun team. So much of what you can do,
especially with the run game and play action the shotgun. Yeah,
why not have an undercenter package when you're inside the
twenty inside the ten inside the five. It was mind boggling.
When you're going, why don't you go under center? Why
don't you go under center? You give the defense more
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to think about. You have more options as a play caller.
But let's start there before we get into the actual
domino effect, because it's not just Georgia and Georgia tech.
I see that everywhere were every time we do a
game third and one, let's back up into the shotgun.
De tackle blows the playoff. Now it's fourth and three, right.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Right, that's exactly right. And you know, there are so
many different things. Let's just take a guy like Haines King,
like the things you can do with him under center
in the quarterback run game that inspire misdirection, true bootleg,
true naked stuff. There's just there's a wealth of things
that you can do. And on top of all of that,
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you can always fall forward through the a gap on
either side of the center if you see a crease,
like to just go forward, you know, and just think,
if you have the ball in the two and a
half yard line and you did that three times, your
probability of scoring is probably pretty high. You know. So
in you're right, it's not exclusive to Georgia Georgia Tech.
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It's become the shotgun offense. You know, I'm fifty, but
when I played, even to the latter part of my
college career, you had to beg your coach to go
into the shotgun like you weren't in the shotgun. Everything
was under center, footwork, three step drop, five step drop ball, handling,
play fakes, mesh fakes, all these different things that like
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don't exist, don't seem to exist anymore in the college game.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
No, no, And I get it. Kids in high school
never take a snap under center. Yeah, and college coaches
don't want to spend the time to develop those guys
because you might be gone in a year.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I guess they don't have the time exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, they don't have the time because they might be
gone in a year. Because you got to win. The
other part of that game is the outcome. Tech was
right there, could have won, should have won. Whatever Georgia
wins the game. I don't think there was a team
more severely impacted by that outcome than Miami, no question,
because Miami had lost to Georgia Tech up until the weekend.
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It was Miami's only loss. They lose to Syracuse, which
on the road against a nine to three team, even
though Syracuse was a big underdog, I don't think that's
as battle loss on paper as it looked. The problem
for Miami they have no top twenty five wins. They
do not have a single top twenty five win. And
for a team that had they beaten Syracuse, I think
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if they get to the ACC Championship win or lose,
there probably better than fifty percent chance they're in. Yeah,
right now. I'll be honest. When you start to look
at the resumes of some of these other bubble teams
and you go, well, hey, Alabama beat Georgia in South Carolina,
just beat Clemson, and Ole Miss has some quality wins,
I don't see a scenario where Miami gets in. I thought,
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if Georgia Tech beats Georgia now all of a sudden,
at least Miami can hand gets hat on the fact that, Okay,
our quote unquote loss, one of our two losses came
to a team that just beat one of the best
teams in the country, oh, by the way, in Athens. Yeah,
and maybe that gives you a little bit of credibility
with the committee. But I think Miami's out. I think
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they were hurt more than any other team this past weekend.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I totally agree, And I also agree about who Syracuse
really is. You know, Syracuse beat UNLV on the road
and is nine and three and is not ranked, and
UNLV is first of all. How how both Duke and
Syracuse aren't ranked is odd to me Anyhow, I think
it's just simple. The team that was helped the most
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was Alabama hurt the most Miami. If SMU beats Clemson,
Alabama's in. If Clemson beats SMU, SMU's in.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I don't think so. I don't think SMU's in with
a loss. I don't I do.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I really feel strongly about it. I think they've played
such good football. They've beat some ranked teams, they don't
beat themselves. And maybe a bit of it is people
aren't paying close of enough attention the branding, the decal
and the helmet. It could be a variety of things,
and you may be you may be right, but here's why,
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here's why.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Do yeah, the win values of some of their quote
unquote wins have changed. They beat Louisville when Louisville was ranked.
Louisville's No. Longer ranked. I know, Duke's a good team
that passed the eye test. Duke's not ranked, it's no
longer ranked. They've stumbled down the stretch BYU, which was
a ranked team for most of the season. They lost
that game at home, and again, I think that's a
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good BYU team, But BYU stubbing its toe late in
the season. SMU, where is the win on that resume
where you say, hey, that's the one that measures up
against the other bubble teams. And I'm not disagreeing with you.
I've seen them in person. You've seen them, I think
couple of times. Yeah, I passed the eye test through
a good team. Kevin Jennett is a really good quarterback.
(10:05):
I just don't think the ACC this year is going
to have the cachet where if SMU loses, they're gonna
get two teams in. I think it's a one big
league right now. I thought maybe a couple of weeks
ago they had a chance for two even three, and
then Clemson losing to South Carolina, Miami is stubbing its toe.
That's ruined it for everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, and you could very well be right in doing that.
Though you're gonna take a ten and two team that
played in a championship game. You're gonna put a three
lost team in over them that didn't play in one. So,
I mean, if if they have an argument, that's probably
where it begins. If you're if you're SMU, you could
be one hundred percent correct. I am to the point
(10:45):
now with this committee and how how they're approaching things
where I don't really truly understand where they're placing emphasis
because for Ward Manual went on live television Tuesday night,
the Tuesday before Thanksgiving and set on live television that
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the committee thought Indiana played well against Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, what are we doing? Indiana is in, Indiana's in.
There's no debate about Indiana.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, so you got Indiana just sitting there, Well, you hobnoestly, Okay,
Indiana played Ohio State. They lost, But Indiana had played
anybody any better than nests of you has and.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
They didn't really look all that good against Ohio State.
If you watch the game, No, they look terrible.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I mean they looked like they were not ready for
the moment. They got boat raced right, and that's I'll.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Give you another one. I'll give you another one. Let's
say if Penn State somehow beats Oregon, they're probably the
number one seed. Do you think State is the best
team in the country. How many teams in the country
are you taking over Penn State?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Probably four or five at least. Yeah, yeah, I agree
with that. I agree, And who knows anything can happen.
Obviously in the championship game, it's gonna be the first
time since Ohio State that Oregon actually been challenged, because
I gotta be We may have talked about this from
previous week. Previous weeks. I don't think people really acknowledge
that the Big ten's are very good. It is so
top heavy. Yeah, and you could make I mean, but
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the other team like Purdue might be the worst team
in Power five football. Right then you've got Northwestern, Michigan State, Maryland, Rutgers,
Iowa had twenty starters returning, all right, and then finished
eight and four. Okay, that's fine, but that's not the
team they should have had on the field. No, Wisconsin disappointed.
The Pac twelve teams outside of Oregon's stunk. Yeah, right,
and so the conference is just isn't very good and
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so but it doesn't seem to be hitting that seems
to be hitting Miami more than it's hitting Indiana.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's hitting the acc is a league more than it's
hitting correct yeah ten because the softer schedules in the
Big Ten have allowed Indiana Penn State to inflate the
records a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Ohio State I thought was hurt losing to Michigan the
way they did, But that's.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
An inexcusable loss. You can't you You have spent very
publicly by the way you have spent every dime you
have during an offseason of building a roster with one goal.
The goal is not to win the Big Ten. It
is not to win a national championship. It's to beat
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that team. And it's the only monkey on Ryan days
back that he is that he has yet to lift.
And you led a six and five team that has
slugged along with a walk on quarterback. And don't even
get me started on how Michigan doesn't have a quarterback.
How you Michigan and you're playing a freaking walk on quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Give me a break. Well, how about the fact that
for the large majority of the season, Michigan was essentially
a wink t offense In disguise exactly. You didn't have
to respect the pass in no way, shape or form.
It was just run game, quarterback run. They're still good
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on defense, play big, playfield position, and rely on your
one hundred thousand plus for your home games. But to
lose that game at home, I'll tell you what saves
Ryan Day here the twelve team playoffs because Inio State
was in the top four. Well they were in the
top four, and they lose to Michigan, and that loss
drops them out of the playoff picture, that championship picture.
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Ryan Day might be without a job.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
No question. No, that's the only job in major college
football where that game means more than the games you
win in totality, right, I mean that people are calling
him John Cooper two point oh. Is that fair or unfair?
I don't know, but they fired John Cooper for the
exact same thing that Ryan Day's doing with almost the
exact same level of wins.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And think about what happened to Jim Harbaugh. How close
was he to being run out of town because he
beat Urban Meyer, he couldn't beat Ohio State. And then
when it turned, when it turned and he got the
better of Ohio State. I mean, the guy rode out
on a white horse, he wins a national championship, and
he'll be invited back and uh, they'll probably turn him
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into a saint up in ann Arbor.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, they'll build a statue. I mean, I mean, that's
just that's that's good, what's going to happen. And the
Ohio state thing to me, and then after, first of all,
how they managed the last two minutes of that game.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
The timeout went and then stop because you weren't lined up.
That that's the stuff that I think just boils the
blood of the fans who have a lot of stake
in that rivalry where you know you were going to
need that time out, you knew it, and then you
didn't have it, and you saw what happened. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And then after when all of the melee and all
of the stuff's happening on the field and there's a
shot of Ryan a just standing there watching it, standing
there watching it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It was the clip, did you see it was Jack
Sawyer Yeah, and took the flag and he was fired
up because he saw Michigan planning the flag. Yeah, midfield
trying to plant the flag and one of the assistants
maybe it was a strength coach. I don't know who
it was, but he's kind of restraining Sawyer, making sure
he doesn't rush back down in the field. And you
see Ryan Day standing a few feet in front of him,
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no reaction.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No reaction, nothing, just standing there watching it. Really just bizarre, right,
But that was an inexcusable lots And I'll tell you
why they lost it because arrogance and a lack of
respect because of what Michigan looked like this year and
what Ohio State did to build this team led them
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down a path where they prepared the whole week with
a mindset that they were going to walk onto that
field in boat race Michigan, not because they were necessarily better,
but because they didn't think Michigan.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Was any good. And Michigan looked at that game and said, Okay,
we have not had the season that we wanted. This
has been the follow up campaign from a championship season.
But if we can go and ruin their season, that
makes it all worthwhile. And they and you give a
lot of credit to that coaching staff. Michigan did a
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heck of a job. They didn't have a twenty million
dollar roster like right, right, let's spin it forward to
champ week, So I think it's interesting. I'll start with
the Friday game, the Mountain West game UNLV and Boise State.
If Boise wins, they are a top four seed, no doubt,
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first round by it's going to be a twelve and
one team. The only loss was close to Oregon. Tell
you what if YOUUNLV wins, UNLV is what number twenty
two in the College Football Playoff rankings? That will probably
stay the same, maybe go up one when the new
rankings come out Tuesday. But if they get a win
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against a Boise State who's on the cusp of the
top ten. Here's my question, does UNLV jump the winner
of the Big twelve championship game Arizona State Iowa stayed
because in that scenario, UNLV would then host a first
or rather a quarterfinal game, and they'd have a first
round by.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, for whatever, the answer to that question is maybe.
And it's also it also might be reflective of why
they ranked UNLV the last two to three weeks, right,
because if they if they if they were to do
that be a really good let's just say they were
Syracuse with a really good record, but they're not ranked now.
It doesn't mean as much, but they're ranked and isaa oh,
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we could justify this. I I am really I've gone
back and forth on this, and I know how I
felt about it five years ago and beyond as it
relates to a Group of five in Power five. But
I just I think the opponents weekend and week out,
and the venues and environments matter because there is such
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a huge discrepancy between the Group of five level of
football and the Power four level of football when it
comes to the places you have to go on the
road and the teams you have to play in environments
that can alter how you play the game. And I
just don't know if we should be treating a full
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group of five schedule the same way we treat a
Power four schedule.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I agree with you. I agree with you. I will
say this in UNLV's defense. Four games into the season,
their quarterback quit.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, and they got better the way they got better,
they got better.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Matthew Sluka, who was a coveted transfer out of Holy Cross,
goes to UNLV running quarterback. They were winning with him.
Four games in. He comes out and says, hey, I'm
using a red shirt. I want to explore my options
now year, and then all the stories came out about
what was promised, what wasn't promised. The end of the day,
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it's a bad look in hindsight for a kid quit
on a.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Would neither would I know, I would go near him
with a ten football, and I.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Don't care what happened, right, you committed to go there.
Part of the reason his options coming out of holy
Cross were limited was because he made it clear to
everybody in the portal he wanted to get his degree
from Holy Cross, so he was not going to enroll
in January anywhere else. He said, I'm going to get
there for fall camp, get there by the summer. So
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a lot of teams, especially the bigger school, said, well listen,
if we can't see you in the spring, you're not
going to have a full spring. All bets are off.
Un l V said, we understand and respect your decision.
You want to go get that degree, Go get that degree.
Keep a spot for you. And anyway they get this kid,
Hodge Malik Williams. I think his name is played for
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Mike Campbell by the way, Campbell Campbell transfer so and
he's played great and they've rallied around it. I give
Barry Otam a lot of credit. They have a bright
young OC who's going to be a head coach somewhere.
So UNLV is interesting. I think there's a shot that UNLV,
with a win, could potentially be a top four seed
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and might be ranked ahead of the Big Twelve champion.
The Big Twelve one is interesting because Arizon the state
was picked last last in the Big Twelve. And if
you've seen Kenny Dillingham's interviews, we had a great one
when they had a win against Utah earlier in the
season and man stormed the field and Kenny Dillingham sees,
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you know, the fans kind of swerving back and forth,
and he goes, that used to be me. I used
to be one of those guys. It matters to him
so much to be in the valley right in that area,
to be in his alma mater. He wants to be
there for twenty years. Like Kyle Whittingham at Utah, Mike
Gundy at Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Sure, that's a destination job for him.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
This is a guy who's like in the top twenty
five percent of Madden players on his roster. He's thirty
four years old, he's young, he's different, he speaks the truth.
He's an easy guy to root for, and to me,
Arizona State's one of the best stories. And if you
haven't seen the running back Cam Scataboo.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh I love him.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
This Gregg reminds me of Toby Gerhart from Stanford.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
There you go. He might be a little more flexible
than Toby Gerhard.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
His contact balance is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
It's unbelievable. Yeah, that's why I call him John Riggins.
I mean, he just is like he just he's a
throwback in everything. And he's a great receiver. That's the
other thing, you know. By the way, speaking of the
Big Twelve, I'm curious to know how this relates to
the to the UNLV discussion, because you know, that conference rumbled.
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Everybody that was supposed to be in it to win.
It wilted all of them. I mean, Oklahoma State, Brutal,
Kansas rebounded brutal to start the season, Utah, Kansas State,
Arizona right. The only team that was picked to be
competitive and potentially have a little sneak in chance was
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Texas Tech. They did pretty go. They finished eight and four,
but that allowed for Colorado to improve enough. While everybody
else was crumbling, and for Arizona State to improve enough
while everybody else is crumbling to put themselves in the position.
And just think if you were Iowa State and you
didn't have your little two game hiccup, where you would be.
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I think they started the season off what eight and O.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, Iowa State is ten and two going into the
Big Twelve Championship. They lost to Texas Tech by a
point and then got ambushed against Kansas. Yep, and it
turned out to be Kansas is so called get right game.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
But even if they're sitting there with one loss on
the road against Kansas, yeah, they're playing for a top
four speed, top four seed, no doubt. Yeah, Yeah, it's great.
The other game, Georgia Texas rematch, I'll be honest, the
first one didn't really feel like a fair fight. I
know Texas kind of made it somewhat of a game late,
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but you never really felt like they had a chance
when you were struggled in that game. They brought an
arch manning for a bit. I know George is a
two loss team. I know they lost Obama. I know
they lost to Ole Miss. I know offensively they're not
as great as maybe we thought they would be, and
they have been in the past. Defensively, they can lock
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you down. They can still run the ball if they
can get decent offensive line play, and Carson Beck can
just manage the game. Yeah, I still think Georgia is
gonna win this whole thing. I really do so.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I think Georgia if they don't beat themselves, and that's
a big yp because everybody has beat themselves this year
at some point. I mean, that's one of the things
that makes SMU so good is they haven't done that.
It's one of the things that's made Oregon so good.
They've played consist clean.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
If Georgia just doesn't turn the ball over, and by
the way, they don't have to defend quarterback run this
week and they don't want to see it ever again, right,
so now you know where the quarterback is going to
be on every snap. If you don't turn the ball over.
I don't know if there's a team out there that
would be Georgia. But Georgia, just like everybody else, and
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some of the warts that have been revealed they've been
prone to turn the ball over, be heavily penalized and
again we've seen this from Alabama. Texas has been somewhat sloppy.
I thought Texas had their best performance of the year
maybe on Saturday Night against Texas A and M. They
dominated that game. So they too, are a little bit
like Georgia in the sense. I don't know if I
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said this to you a few weeks back on the pod,
but when Steve Sarkisian was asked a question about Quinn
yours there was several weeks back, and he said, when
Quinn's hot, I think he's the best quarterback in the country.
The problem with that. The problem with that is he's
not been very hot. No, And if he's not hot,
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are they then good enough to beat somebody who's really
good that doesn't beat themselves.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I still think the talent deficit overall between Georgia and
everyone else in terms of the high end guys. Georgia
still has too many of them. They sally too many
of them, and they've been off on the defensive side
of the ball. And honestly, if you look at the
Michigan blueprint from last year, I think if Georgia follows that,
which they can, they're built similar, they can go win
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this thing. Maybe I'm wrong here. I'm not a believer
in Penn State, not in the least bit. I'm just not.
I've seen enough of them. I saw a team that
barely eked out a win against Minnesota. Great, you blew
out Purdue. Who's bad you blew out Washington. They've been
bad Maryland, bad against Ohio State offensively, you know, stuck
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in quicksand most of the game. I don't think the
Buckeyes played great, but Penn State just it never felt
like that was a game they were going to win.
They let Bowling Green hang around early in the season, YEP,
almost lost to USC. I'm trying to talk myself.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Into Penn State and I can't listen. I think that
they are a really good team that has not figured
out how to take the next step of owning an opponent.
They have good enough players to do it, but they
never seem to just put the foot on the neck
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of the opponent and suffocate them right and just take
the air out of the stadium. It's almost as if
they find ways for teams to stay in the game
with them. In the Minnesota game was a prime example
of that.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Oh yeah, and their opponent Oregon I don't know if
this gets talked about enough. Because they're on the West Coast,
people may not see them as much, although they have
more visibility in the Big Ten. Yeah, they're built for
this playoff run, right, Dylan Gabriel, big time quarterback. They
can run the ball. This isn't the Chip Kelly Oregon teams.
(28:11):
I think people still have that in their head. Yeah,
this is an Oregon team that can beat the snot
out of you. That impressed me the most when they
went up against Ohio State. Like, these guys are physical,
they can hold up. They held up in Big Ten
play going to some of those cold weather places. Yeah,
to me, this Oregon team is built for these next
six weeks.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Well, I agree with you, and I think the first
thing you said is the biggest reason why They've got
a quarterback that has played so much football. And if
you had to sit there and say, Okay, how am
I going to get through a three or four week
gottlet who do I want that I could rely on
the most. It would give me the absolute most consistency
at the most important position on the field. It would
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be Dylan Gabriel because all he does is play on
an even key of a high level of production. He
doesn't get caught down into the valleys of the lows,
he doesn't get caught up in the peaks of the highs.
He's just he's steady. And to me, you're gonna need
that because in order to pull this off. And you've
(29:17):
probably had this conversation too, when you do an FCS
playoff game, you talk to those coaches about like what
it takes to get through that gauntlet.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You have to have luck, You better be healthy, you
have to have a competitive depth. You better be a
team that can hold up in the trenches, not just
with your ones, but with your twos. And you better
have a quarterback. All five of those things are strengths
at Oregon.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
And when you have the last piece, when you have
the quarterback, you can disguise.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Some of the other things absolutely and so the other
way around, not the other way around.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Not the other way around. You don't have the quarterback.
You need everything to go right. And by the way,
Dylan Gabriel is actually older than Bryce Young. He'll turn
twenty four mon December, real quick. Clemson, SMU. I think
a lot of people are gonna go with Clemson here
because They've been in these spots and Dabbo knows what
it takes. They know the environment, they're familiar with the environment.
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For SMU, it's brave new world. But to their credit,
they went undefeated in the first year in the ACC.
How do you see this game? Because I'm not so
sure Clemson should be the favorite. I'm not so sure
Clemson beats SMU. I think SMU's got so that last
piece that we just talked about, the best player on
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the field they got the quarterback. Kevin Jennings is a
difference maker and the more you want to better this
kid gets again if he's back next year. I look
at him, I look at you know, Leonori's Sellers from
South I mean to me like that's kind of the
start of the Heisman discussion. There's a few other names,
but the quarterbacks, those guys are right up there.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
You know. I have to rank the ACC top eight
quarterbacks each and every week, and for the last probably
five or six weeks, I've had Kevin Jennings at number
two behind cam Loard. I take more heat for that
on the Internet than any other place. I have a
player plays and I'm like, you ain't paying attention to
this dude. All he throws the best backed shoulder ball
I've seen in college football this year. He throws a
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great over the shoulder, drop it in the bucket ball.
He runs when he has to, even though he could
all the time. But he's really a passer first and
a runner second. So this game, to me comes down
to one very simple thing. Can Clemson stop the run?
Clemson allowed two hundred and eighty eight yards on the
ground of the Citadel and they still haven't tackled the
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North Sellers. He's still running on them. And it's odd
because with the players that they have in their front,
you should not be able to run the football in
Clemson and Louisville did the same thing to Clemson. So
the one thing that SMU does is pride themselves on
winning at the point of attack and running the football.
SMU has traits that travel. They can run the ball,
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they can stop the run, and they score on defense
and in the kicking game they do and they don't
hurt themselves.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
And what I love about Jennings' ability to run, you
mentioned he doesn't look to run first. He's not that
type of quarterback where I've seen him so slippery his
ability as a quarterback to run between the tackles.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Tackles.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, the way he's able to manipulate the pocket you
played the position. He has these phone booth runs. I
call him and he'll rip him off fifteen twenty yards.
Sometimes you're going, wait a minute. He doesn't have to
roll outside of the pocket to get free. He'll stay
in the pocket, he'll step up, he'll beat pressure. It's
one move to the side and then he goes and
he's running between the tackles. And then when he gets
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into space, he can make guys miss. There's very few
quarterbacks that we've seen over the years in college football
that run that way.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
He navigates the pocket, tackle to tackle, and where he's
got great instincts is he keeps his eyes down field.
But he has a sense of what I call the
front door. He has a sense of when the front
door's open, and that's either going to be between the
A gap the center and the guard, or the bgap
the guard and the tablets. Either way, and like you said,
all of a sudden, it's like and he shoots out
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of it. Well, if you get caught in man defense,
you don't have anybody to account for him, and he's
taken off and run. It's like his runs are very calculated,
you know. And sometimes they run him as part of
the designated run game and they should. You got to
keep people on their heels. But yeah, he just he's
got a real instinctive savvy way about him.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, if the moment doesn't get too big, I like
SMU and that came.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Out right real quick to that point, and you mentioned it,
and it is, Matt It does matter because Clemson's been there,
SMU have It's been uncharted territory, uncharted waters. But you
got to also acknowledge the fact that every week has
been uncharted waters for this SMU team. Everybody's waiting for
him to fail. They continue to rise to the occasion.
So you could make an argument that, like they've navigated
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these waters as good as anybody in college football. So
maybe this moment won't be too big. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, And they got a bunch of guys who transferred
from Miami who have played in the ACC have power
five experience, power four experience as it's called. Now, before
we wrap up, I want to hit the Panthers Bucks
game from yesterday, because two weeks in a row, Carolina
goes down on a last second field goal. I equated
it on the air to Rocky one Rocky two in
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the sense that that first Rocky movie, nobody expects anything
out of Balboa. Right, You're facing the champion, Apollo Creed. Okay,
it's a payday fight. You're gonna go in there, You're
gonna get your butt kicked. You're gonna go down in
the second round. That's it. And that's what people expected
when they played the Chiefs and then they go the distance.
They don't win what they push Kansas City to the distance,
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and you kind of felt, even though it was a loss,
felt like a win. Oh my gosh, Hey, Kansas City
played a really good game. They scored on their first
five drives. This wasn't fluky, and you push them to
the brink. That's what made Tampa Bay so frustrating. Where
this past week even though this team had its struggles
early in the season and was getting blown out by
seemingly everybody, getting close, this past weekend didn't feel right
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because you said, you missed a couple of field goals
the fl killer to finish, You had the lead with
thirty seconds and you needed one more stop. You had
the ball in overtime inside the forty with a chance
to kick the winning field goal, you bumbled it away.
That almost felt like, m Yeah, this team has leveled up,
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it has improved, it has progressed, and that was a
game they should have had.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Should have had absolutely And I said this to you
before we started this episode. Sometimes when I when I
see I'm watching a game college or pro whatever, and
I see the quarterback he makes a player and he
gets out of bounds or he scores this and that,
I love to watch the people around him. I want
to see how they react. I want to see how
they interact. And I got this sense yesterday that this
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team likes him. Bryce likes Bryce. They're they're excited when
he does well. They want I think they want to
do well for him. Like there's something I don't know
if he's got the locker room or if he's got
an eight sent of leadership skills, but to watch his
teammates when something good happens, there's a lot of smiles
(36:26):
under those face masks, and you know that's stuff that
needs to be gauged. I mean, those are things that
coach Canalis is looking at and he said, how does
your quarterback affect people? And then you very quickly came
back and you're one hundred percent correct. What people are
doing in that league is they're saying, hey, listen, if
you beat us through the air or you beat us downfield,
we're going to shake your hand and tell you a
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nice job. You got to win, but we're going to
dare you to do it. So they're loading the box
and they're gonna say, all right, kid, what do you got?
And to your point, you said, what a great opportunity
for him to take the next step.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I think these next five weeks, and it started a
couple of weeks ago. Teams see this Panthers offensive line.
They see what Chewba Hubbard can do. He's gonna run
for a thousand plus yards this season. He's less than
one hundred yards from getting there. Jonathan Brooks has been
back now for a couple of weeks. This is a
good running football team. This is a good offensive line
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that can beat you up in the trenches. So you're
gonna commit to the box. You're gonna commit to the run.
You're gonna commit to stopping the run, and you'll take
your chances one on one on the outside. Can Bryce
beat you over the top? Can he make the intermediate
throws downfield? And guess what, the last two weeks, he's
made a lot of them. Sure, you would like to
have some more deep throws. Probably felt like you missed
a couple against Tampa Bay. But he's getting better and
(37:44):
you can see they're trusting him with more of the playbook,
with more of the offense. And it's just as if
to say, hey, for Rice to take that next step,
he's gonna have to challenge you know, these teams downfield
a little bit more. But if he does, and if
he succeeds again, it's not just his career and it's
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not just a turning point for him, it becomes a
turning point for the franchise. He gave an impassioned speech
after the Kansas City game into the locker room, which
really played well with the other fifty two guys and
the coaching staff. A lot of what was said was
not revealed, but think he kind of got the gist
of the message, Hey, we showed what we can do.
We need to now build off this. And I said
it after last week, right, if you're looking at the
(38:28):
plot points and you're being fair. That Kansas City game
in the span of Bryce's career, that's the outlier game, right, Yeah,
that's the plot point. That doesn't make sense. So for
that to really be a turning point and a pivot
point for Bryce, he's got a stack evidence. Well, yeah,
he did that against Tampa Bay, had another big drive
at the end. Challenge gets tougher against Philly if he
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puts together three or four more games like this down
the stretch. I think it just changes how you approach
the offseason. It changes how you feel about the frame
as you can already sense a different vibe. And again,
you know, you watch that game against Tampa Bay and
you're going, this is a much improved team. And that's
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why that one stings a little more than the Chiefs one.
And you know, you got Philly this weekend, where I'll
put it this way, that that's gonna be a tough
matchup because Panthers can't stop the run Philly football, It's
gonna be a tough matchup. But underdogs have had their
luck in that city, so we'll see.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, yeah, no, I listen, I agree with you on
all your points in regards to where this team's at
where it looks like they're heading. And I'll say one
last thing about Bryce Young. I feel like his anticipatory
traits and his decisiveness have improved fairly significantly. I think
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that's probably a result of standing on the sideline and
seeing things slow down.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
All right, that's number one, But number two, I think
what it also says is that Geese seeing the game better,
and it when he's on the field and he knows
where he's supposed to go pre snap post snap, so
he's playing with more confidence instead of thinking and wondering.
It's cutting it loose, and it's a I mean, because
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that league, it's decision making in accuracy, right, and it's timing.
And the problem is in that league, accuracy isn't a pinhole, yeah,
where it's a hula hoop in college, right, So it's.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Tough college open and NFL open. Oh it's funny. I
was talking to a fellow play by play anouncer recently
and he had been doing a couple of NFL games
on the radio, and we were just talking about how
when you're calling a game on radio or college in
the NFL, it's a completely different cadence there's literally an
(40:48):
extra beat and a half as a play by play
outside when you're doing the game on the radio, and
when the quarterback drops back, it's a deep drop. And
you know one Mississippi two missisis if we're in the NFL,
it's drop, clap, throw, go catch first down. There is
not that hesitation, and if there is, it's usually disaster.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, bad things are going to happen.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Bad things are going to happen. Everything moves quicker, but
it is encouraging to see Bryce continue to stack evidence
and continue to stack quality games. This is a different
quarterback and by proxy, a different team. Holiday season upon us.
Where are you off to next?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I've got to travel to Bristol for a national signing
day as this is becoming the most irrelevant day in
college football now because for what sixty percent of every
class that comes in from here on out going forward,
there's probably yeah, sixty percent of the class won't even
be on the team within a year to eighteen months.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You know what you need to do? I got one.
You know what you need to do. You need to
have a separate list. You have the ESPN three hundred,
where you ran the three hundred, You need to have
a separate list fifty guys most likely to transfer coming
out of high school.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Oh, that's not a bad idea actually, But then you're
calling them out for all their their frailties and their
insecurities and all that.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
You know, what you do, what you do in this
new age, right you you turn it into a you
turn it into a prop.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Nice. Nice, Yeah,
we'll turn it into a prop. So yeah, I gotta
go to Brissol, come back Thursday, do a little radio,
and then I'm doing studio and on site support for
the a SEC Championship game on Friday night Saturday.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
All right, sounds good. I'll be at the MAC Championship
in Detroit on Saturday and then Destois off to Philadelphia. Yeah,
I got Miami, Ohio and Ohio.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
So oh my man, Hey the fighting Tim Albins, he's
a great dude.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I will Tim alban and Miami's trying to repeat and
Ohio hasn't won a MAC title since nineteen sixty eight,
so that'll be fun. And then off to Philadelphia for
Eagles Panthers on Sundays. Has been fun. We got a
few more of these and uh, I think we're gonna
have a lot to talk about next Monday. Yeah, sure,
see you then yeh.
Black Friday marked the start of the holiday shopping season.
We're taping our show on Cyber Monday via zoom. So
I'm sure Logan Bill's got windows watching flash shells, flash
Flash sales, Cohle's Target, wherever you do your shopping, Amazon, Basics, Barn.
(00:21):
You know, I was thinking about this recently, actually over
the summer. I don't know about you. I do so
little of my quote unquote actual shopping in a physical
store because it's just here to do it online. And
so I've got a seven year old who you've met,
So when I take her into a department store, it's
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like taking her to Carowin's taking her to the amusement park. Yeah, wait,
what's this. I get to go in the clothes rack,
I get to run through the aisles. Hey, I want
this toy, I want this toy, I want this dress.
Because very rarely do we actually take her into a
physical store. You need something, Hey, grew out of a
her clothes, out of her shoes, just yeah them online.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's amazing. Yeah, you know, seven year old really no
concept of shopping, which I'm actually for. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I was gonna say, you should be very thankful for
that because I was on the other end of the spectrum.
So my wife says, you know, our daughter has never
done the like wake up at four o'clock in the
morning on Black Friday and physically go to all of
the stores and then come home by noon. Let's do that.
So that's literally I got in the road and drove
(01:32):
in the car to drive up to Blacksburg. They got up,
they went shopping, completely depleted all of our finances. And
so I'm to the point where I got one that
understands the online component and the in store component, which
is dangerouserous.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's a Molotov cocktail for you. Yes, no doubt you're
gonna look at that credit card bill. Well why'd you
get both of them? Well, this was fifty in store,
but girls sixty five percent off online.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's right, But may I remind you that you still
spent thirty five percent, You still spent sixty percent, But
it was forty percent off, you still spent sixty percent.
See that. The whole girl math when it comes to
shopping and sales crushes me.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I remember when I lived in Connecticut, there used to
be this clothing store. I'm trying to think of the
name it was a men's warehouse or a joseph A Bank,
one of those types.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And it was down the street from where I used
to live. So when I would go out, or i'd
be walking to go get coffee or lunch, get pass
these stores and they would always have those big posters outside.
And every week it was one of those wild sales.
It was something along the lines of buy one, get
the second at seventy five percent off everything in the store,
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sixty five percent off today, buy one, get one free.
And all they did was just mark up the prices,
of course yellowed at retail, but just pop up a
number where the percent sign on the back end. Yeah,
very quickly you realize, oh yeah, well, this you know,
thirty dollars shirt that I'm getting, really isn't one hundred
(03:18):
dollars shirt that's seventy dollars off. It's probably a fifteen
dollars shirt they just marked up, and now they're telling
you it's fifty percent off, And that's how they get you.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, they're they're three hundred dollars sport coat. What becomes
a six hundred dollars sport coat when you buy one
get one free.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Right, it's amazing, and it's still probably just as good
as a ninety nine dollars sport coat.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Exactly right, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The weekend close to the episode caught by failing touchdown
Carolina Weekend Warriors college football. We're going to start there
because we had a crazy weekend. We had enough carnage
(04:07):
to make I think this next week and certainly what
happens Tuesday night and the following Tuesday awfully interesting when
the rankings come out. I want to start with one
game that I think tiped to Domino, and it was
the Georgia Georgia Tech game on Friday night, the eight
overtime game. I'm doing a game at ECU, drove back
(04:28):
Friday watching that game late. Two things from the football perspective,
My gosh, when you have the ball inside the five
yard line, why does everybody go shotgun? Why don't teams
go under center? If you think about it right, you
prioritize red zone goal to go efficiency. Even if you're
(04:49):
a shotgun team. So much of what you can do,
especially with the run game and play action the shotgun. Yeah,
why not have an undercenter package when you're inside the
twenty inside the ten inside the five. It was mind boggling.
When you're going, why don't you go under center? Why
don't you go under center? You give the defense more
(05:11):
to think about. You have more options as a play caller.
But let's start there before we get into the actual
domino effect, because it's not just Georgia and Georgia tech.
I see that everywhere were every time we do a
game third and one, let's back up into the shotgun.
De tackle blows the playoff. Now it's fourth and three, right.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Right, that's exactly right. And you know, there are so
many different things. Let's just take a guy like Haines King,
like the things you can do with him under center
in the quarterback run game that inspire misdirection, true bootleg,
true naked stuff. There's just there's a wealth of things
that you can do. And on top of all of that,
(05:52):
you can always fall forward through the a gap on
either side of the center if you see a crease,
like to just go forward, you know, and just think,
if you have the ball in the two and a
half yard line and you did that three times, your
probability of scoring is probably pretty high. You know. So
in you're right, it's not exclusive to Georgia Georgia Tech.
(06:14):
It's become the shotgun offense. You know, I'm fifty, but
when I played, even to the latter part of my
college career, you had to beg your coach to go
into the shotgun like you weren't in the shotgun. Everything
was under center, footwork, three step drop, five step drop ball, handling,
play fakes, mesh fakes, all these different things that like
(06:37):
don't exist, don't seem to exist anymore in the college game.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
No, no, And I get it. Kids in high school
never take a snap under center. Yeah, and college coaches
don't want to spend the time to develop those guys
because you might be gone in a year.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I guess they don't have the time exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, they don't have the time because they might be
gone in a year. Because you got to win. The
other part of that game is the outcome. Tech was
right there, could have won, should have won. Whatever Georgia
wins the game. I don't think there was a team
more severely impacted by that outcome than Miami, no question,
because Miami had lost to Georgia Tech up until the weekend.
(07:14):
It was Miami's only loss. They lose to Syracuse, which
on the road against a nine to three team, even
though Syracuse was a big underdog, I don't think that's
as battle loss on paper as it looked. The problem
for Miami they have no top twenty five wins. They
do not have a single top twenty five win. And
for a team that had they beaten Syracuse, I think
(07:35):
if they get to the ACC Championship win or lose,
there probably better than fifty percent chance they're in. Yeah,
right now. I'll be honest. When you start to look
at the resumes of some of these other bubble teams
and you go, well, hey, Alabama beat Georgia in South Carolina,
just beat Clemson, and Ole Miss has some quality wins,
I don't see a scenario where Miami gets in. I thought,
(07:57):
if Georgia Tech beats Georgia now all of a sudden,
at least Miami can hand gets hat on the fact that, Okay,
our quote unquote loss, one of our two losses came
to a team that just beat one of the best
teams in the country, oh, by the way, in Athens. Yeah,
and maybe that gives you a little bit of credibility
with the committee. But I think Miami's out. I think
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they were hurt more than any other team this past weekend.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I totally agree, And I also agree about who Syracuse
really is. You know, Syracuse beat UNLV on the road
and is nine and three and is not ranked, and
UNLV is first of all. How how both Duke and
Syracuse aren't ranked is odd to me Anyhow, I think
it's just simple. The team that was helped the most
(08:44):
was Alabama hurt the most Miami. If SMU beats Clemson,
Alabama's in. If Clemson beats SMU, SMU's in.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I don't think so. I don't think SMU's in with
a loss. I don't I do.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I really feel strongly about it. I think they've played
such good football. They've beat some ranked teams, they don't
beat themselves. And maybe a bit of it is people
aren't paying close of enough attention the branding, the decal
and the helmet. It could be a variety of things,
and you may be you may be right, but here's why,
(09:20):
here's why.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Do yeah, the win values of some of their quote
unquote wins have changed. They beat Louisville when Louisville was ranked.
Louisville's No. Longer ranked. I know, Duke's a good team
that passed the eye test. Duke's not ranked, it's no
longer ranked. They've stumbled down the stretch BYU, which was
a ranked team for most of the season. They lost
that game at home, and again, I think that's a
(09:42):
good BYU team, But BYU stubbing its toe late in
the season. SMU, where is the win on that resume
where you say, hey, that's the one that measures up
against the other bubble teams. And I'm not disagreeing with you.
I've seen them in person. You've seen them, I think
couple of times. Yeah, I passed the eye test through
a good team. Kevin Jennett is a really good quarterback.
(10:05):
I just don't think the ACC this year is going
to have the cachet where if SMU loses, they're gonna
get two teams in. I think it's a one big
league right now. I thought maybe a couple of weeks
ago they had a chance for two even three, and
then Clemson losing to South Carolina, Miami is stubbing its toe.
That's ruined it for everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, and you could very well be right in doing that.
Though you're gonna take a ten and two team that
played in a championship game. You're gonna put a three
lost team in over them that didn't play in one. So,
I mean, if if they have an argument, that's probably
where it begins. If you're if you're SMU, you could
be one hundred percent correct. I am to the point
(10:45):
now with this committee and how how they're approaching things
where I don't really truly understand where they're placing emphasis
because for Ward Manual went on live television Tuesday night,
the Tuesday before Thanksgiving and set on live television that
(11:06):
the committee thought Indiana played well against Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, what are we doing? Indiana is in, Indiana's in.
There's no debate about Indiana.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, so you got Indiana just sitting there, Well, you hobnoestly, Okay,
Indiana played Ohio State. They lost, But Indiana had played
anybody any better than nests of you has and.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
They didn't really look all that good against Ohio State.
If you watch the game, No, they look terrible.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I mean they looked like they were not ready for
the moment. They got boat raced right, and that's I'll.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Give you another one. I'll give you another one. Let's
say if Penn State somehow beats Oregon, they're probably the
number one seed. Do you think State is the best
team in the country. How many teams in the country
are you taking over Penn State?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Probably four or five at least. Yeah, yeah, I agree
with that. I agree, And who knows anything can happen.
Obviously in the championship game, it's gonna be the first
time since Ohio State that Oregon actually been challenged, because
I gotta be We may have talked about this from
previous week. Previous weeks. I don't think people really acknowledge
that the Big ten's are very good. It is so
top heavy. Yeah, and you could make I mean, but
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the other team like Purdue might be the worst team
in Power five football. Right then you've got Northwestern, Michigan State, Maryland, Rutgers,
Iowa had twenty starters returning, all right, and then finished
eight and four. Okay, that's fine, but that's not the
team they should have had on the field. No, Wisconsin disappointed.
The Pac twelve teams outside of Oregon's stunk. Yeah, right,
and so the conference is just isn't very good and
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so but it doesn't seem to be hitting that seems
to be hitting Miami more than it's hitting Indiana.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's hitting the acc is a league more than it's
hitting correct yeah ten because the softer schedules in the
Big Ten have allowed Indiana Penn State to inflate the
records a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Ohio State I thought was hurt losing to Michigan the
way they did, But that's.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
An inexcusable loss. You can't you You have spent very
publicly by the way you have spent every dime you
have during an offseason of building a roster with one goal.
The goal is not to win the Big Ten. It
is not to win a national championship. It's to beat
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that team. And it's the only monkey on Ryan days
back that he is that he has yet to lift.
And you led a six and five team that has
slugged along with a walk on quarterback. And don't even
get me started on how Michigan doesn't have a quarterback.
How you Michigan and you're playing a freaking walk on quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Give me a break. Well, how about the fact that
for the large majority of the season, Michigan was essentially
a wink t offense In disguise exactly. You didn't have
to respect the pass in no way, shape or form.
It was just run game, quarterback run. They're still good
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on defense, play big, playfield position, and rely on your
one hundred thousand plus for your home games. But to
lose that game at home, I'll tell you what saves
Ryan Day here the twelve team playoffs because Inio State
was in the top four. Well they were in the
top four, and they lose to Michigan, and that loss
drops them out of the playoff picture, that championship picture.
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Ryan Day might be without a job.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
No question. No, that's the only job in major college
football where that game means more than the games you
win in totality, right, I mean that people are calling
him John Cooper two point oh. Is that fair or unfair?
I don't know, but they fired John Cooper for the
exact same thing that Ryan Day's doing with almost the
exact same level of wins.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And think about what happened to Jim Harbaugh. How close
was he to being run out of town because he
beat Urban Meyer, he couldn't beat Ohio State. And then
when it turned, when it turned and he got the
better of Ohio State. I mean, the guy rode out
on a white horse, he wins a national championship, and
he'll be invited back and uh, they'll probably turn him
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into a saint up in ann Arbor.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, they'll build a statue. I mean, I mean, that's
just that's that's good, what's going to happen. And the
Ohio state thing to me, and then after, first of all,
how they managed the last two minutes of that game.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
The timeout went and then stop because you weren't lined up.
That that's the stuff that I think just boils the
blood of the fans who have a lot of stake
in that rivalry where you know you were going to
need that time out, you knew it, and then you
didn't have it, and you saw what happened. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And then after when all of the melee and all
of the stuff's happening on the field and there's a
shot of Ryan a just standing there watching it, standing
there watching it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It was the clip, did you see it was Jack
Sawyer Yeah, and took the flag and he was fired
up because he saw Michigan planning the flag. Yeah, midfield
trying to plant the flag and one of the assistants
maybe it was a strength coach. I don't know who
it was, but he's kind of restraining Sawyer, making sure
he doesn't rush back down in the field. And you
see Ryan Day standing a few feet in front of him,
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no reaction.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No reaction, nothing, just standing there watching it. Really just bizarre, right,
But that was an inexcusable lots And I'll tell you
why they lost it because arrogance and a lack of
respect because of what Michigan looked like this year and
what Ohio State did to build this team led them
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down a path where they prepared the whole week with
a mindset that they were going to walk onto that
field in boat race Michigan, not because they were necessarily better,
but because they didn't think Michigan.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Was any good. And Michigan looked at that game and said, Okay,
we have not had the season that we wanted. This
has been the follow up campaign from a championship season.
But if we can go and ruin their season, that
makes it all worthwhile. And they and you give a
lot of credit to that coaching staff. Michigan did a
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heck of a job. They didn't have a twenty million
dollar roster like right, right, let's spin it forward to
champ week, So I think it's interesting. I'll start with
the Friday game, the Mountain West game UNLV and Boise State.
If Boise wins, they are a top four seed, no doubt,
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first round by it's going to be a twelve and
one team. The only loss was close to Oregon. Tell
you what if YOUUNLV wins, UNLV is what number twenty
two in the College Football Playoff rankings? That will probably
stay the same, maybe go up one when the new
rankings come out Tuesday. But if they get a win
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against a Boise State who's on the cusp of the
top ten. Here's my question, does UNLV jump the winner
of the Big twelve championship game Arizona State Iowa stayed
because in that scenario, UNLV would then host a first
or rather a quarterfinal game, and they'd have a first
round by.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, for whatever, the answer to that question is maybe.
And it's also it also might be reflective of why
they ranked UNLV the last two to three weeks, right,
because if they if they if they were to do
that be a really good let's just say they were
Syracuse with a really good record, but they're not ranked now.
It doesn't mean as much, but they're ranked and isaa oh,
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we could justify this. I I am really I've gone
back and forth on this, and I know how I
felt about it five years ago and beyond as it
relates to a Group of five in Power five. But
I just I think the opponents weekend and week out,
and the venues and environments matter because there is such
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a huge discrepancy between the Group of five level of
football and the Power four level of football when it
comes to the places you have to go on the
road and the teams you have to play in environments
that can alter how you play the game. And I
just don't know if we should be treating a full
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group of five schedule the same way we treat a
Power four schedule.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I agree with you. I agree with you. I will
say this in UNLV's defense. Four games into the season,
their quarterback quit.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, and they got better the way they got better,
they got better.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Matthew Sluka, who was a coveted transfer out of Holy Cross,
goes to UNLV running quarterback. They were winning with him.
Four games in. He comes out and says, hey, I'm
using a red shirt. I want to explore my options
now year, and then all the stories came out about
what was promised, what wasn't promised. The end of the day,
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it's a bad look in hindsight for a kid quit
on a.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Would neither would I know, I would go near him
with a ten football, and I.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Don't care what happened, right, you committed to go there.
Part of the reason his options coming out of holy
Cross were limited was because he made it clear to
everybody in the portal he wanted to get his degree
from Holy Cross, so he was not going to enroll
in January anywhere else. He said, I'm going to get
there for fall camp, get there by the summer. So
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a lot of teams, especially the bigger school, said, well listen,
if we can't see you in the spring, you're not
going to have a full spring. All bets are off.
Un l V said, we understand and respect your decision.
You want to go get that degree, Go get that degree.
Keep a spot for you. And anyway they get this kid,
Hodge Malik Williams. I think his name is played for
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Mike Campbell by the way, Campbell Campbell transfer so and
he's played great and they've rallied around it. I give
Barry Otam a lot of credit. They have a bright
young OC who's going to be a head coach somewhere.
So UNLV is interesting. I think there's a shot that UNLV,
with a win, could potentially be a top four seed
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and might be ranked ahead of the Big Twelve champion.
The Big Twelve one is interesting because Arizon the state
was picked last last in the Big Twelve. And if
you've seen Kenny Dillingham's interviews, we had a great one
when they had a win against Utah earlier in the
season and man stormed the field and Kenny Dillingham sees,
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you know, the fans kind of swerving back and forth,
and he goes, that used to be me. I used
to be one of those guys. It matters to him
so much to be in the valley right in that area,
to be in his alma mater. He wants to be
there for twenty years. Like Kyle Whittingham at Utah, Mike
Gundy at Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Sure, that's a destination job for him.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
This is a guy who's like in the top twenty
five percent of Madden players on his roster. He's thirty
four years old, he's young, he's different, he speaks the truth.
He's an easy guy to root for, and to me,
Arizona State's one of the best stories. And if you
haven't seen the running back Cam Scataboo.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh I love him.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
This Gregg reminds me of Toby Gerhart from Stanford.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
There you go. He might be a little more flexible
than Toby Gerhard.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
His contact balance is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
It's unbelievable. Yeah, that's why I call him John Riggins.
I mean, he just is like he just he's a
throwback in everything. And he's a great receiver. That's the
other thing, you know. By the way, speaking of the
Big Twelve, I'm curious to know how this relates to
the to the UNLV discussion, because you know, that conference rumbled.
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Everybody that was supposed to be in it to win.
It wilted all of them. I mean, Oklahoma State, Brutal,
Kansas rebounded brutal to start the season, Utah, Kansas State,
Arizona right. The only team that was picked to be
competitive and potentially have a little sneak in chance was
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Texas Tech. They did pretty go. They finished eight and four,
but that allowed for Colorado to improve enough. While everybody
else was crumbling, and for Arizona State to improve enough
while everybody else is crumbling to put themselves in the position.
And just think if you were Iowa State and you
didn't have your little two game hiccup, where you would be.
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I think they started the season off what eight and O.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, Iowa State is ten and two going into the
Big Twelve Championship. They lost to Texas Tech by a
point and then got ambushed against Kansas. Yep, and it
turned out to be Kansas is so called get right game.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
But even if they're sitting there with one loss on
the road against Kansas, yeah, they're playing for a top
four speed, top four seed, no doubt. Yeah, Yeah, it's great.
The other game, Georgia Texas rematch, I'll be honest, the
first one didn't really feel like a fair fight. I
know Texas kind of made it somewhat of a game late,
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but you never really felt like they had a chance
when you were struggled in that game. They brought an
arch manning for a bit. I know George is a
two loss team. I know they lost Obama. I know
they lost to Ole Miss. I know offensively they're not
as great as maybe we thought they would be, and
they have been in the past. Defensively, they can lock
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you down. They can still run the ball if they
can get decent offensive line play, and Carson Beck can
just manage the game. Yeah, I still think Georgia is
gonna win this whole thing. I really do so.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I think Georgia if they don't beat themselves, and that's
a big yp because everybody has beat themselves this year
at some point. I mean, that's one of the things
that makes SMU so good is they haven't done that.
It's one of the things that's made Oregon so good.
They've played consist clean.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
If Georgia just doesn't turn the ball over, and by
the way, they don't have to defend quarterback run this
week and they don't want to see it ever again, right,
so now you know where the quarterback is going to
be on every snap. If you don't turn the ball over.
I don't know if there's a team out there that
would be Georgia. But Georgia, just like everybody else, and
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some of the warts that have been revealed they've been
prone to turn the ball over, be heavily penalized and
again we've seen this from Alabama. Texas has been somewhat sloppy.
I thought Texas had their best performance of the year
maybe on Saturday Night against Texas A and M. They
dominated that game. So they too, are a little bit
like Georgia in the sense. I don't know if I
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said this to you a few weeks back on the pod,
but when Steve Sarkisian was asked a question about Quinn
yours there was several weeks back, and he said, when
Quinn's hot, I think he's the best quarterback in the country.
The problem with that. The problem with that is he's
not been very hot. No, And if he's not hot,
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are they then good enough to beat somebody who's really
good that doesn't beat themselves.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I still think the talent deficit overall between Georgia and
everyone else in terms of the high end guys. Georgia
still has too many of them. They sally too many
of them, and they've been off on the defensive side
of the ball. And honestly, if you look at the
Michigan blueprint from last year, I think if Georgia follows that,
which they can, they're built similar, they can go win
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this thing. Maybe I'm wrong here. I'm not a believer
in Penn State, not in the least bit. I'm just not.
I've seen enough of them. I saw a team that
barely eked out a win against Minnesota. Great, you blew
out Purdue. Who's bad you blew out Washington. They've been
bad Maryland, bad against Ohio State offensively, you know, stuck
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in quicksand most of the game. I don't think the
Buckeyes played great, but Penn State just it never felt
like that was a game they were going to win.
They let Bowling Green hang around early in the season, YEP,
almost lost to USC. I'm trying to talk myself.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Into Penn State and I can't listen. I think that
they are a really good team that has not figured
out how to take the next step of owning an opponent.
They have good enough players to do it, but they
never seem to just put the foot on the neck
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of the opponent and suffocate them right and just take
the air out of the stadium. It's almost as if
they find ways for teams to stay in the game
with them. In the Minnesota game was a prime example
of that.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Oh yeah, and their opponent Oregon I don't know if
this gets talked about enough. Because they're on the West Coast,
people may not see them as much, although they have
more visibility in the Big Ten. Yeah, they're built for
this playoff run, right, Dylan Gabriel, big time quarterback. They
can run the ball. This isn't the Chip Kelly Oregon teams.
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I think people still have that in their head. Yeah,
this is an Oregon team that can beat the snot
out of you. That impressed me the most when they
went up against Ohio State. Like, these guys are physical,
they can hold up. They held up in Big Ten
play going to some of those cold weather places. Yeah,
to me, this Oregon team is built for these next
six weeks.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Well, I agree with you, and I think the first
thing you said is the biggest reason why They've got
a quarterback that has played so much football. And if
you had to sit there and say, Okay, how am
I going to get through a three or four week
gottlet who do I want that I could rely on
the most. It would give me the absolute most consistency
at the most important position on the field. It would
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be Dylan Gabriel because all he does is play on
an even key of a high level of production. He
doesn't get caught down into the valleys of the lows,
he doesn't get caught up in the peaks of the highs.
He's just he's steady. And to me, you're gonna need
that because in order to pull this off. And you've
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probably had this conversation too, when you do an FCS
playoff game, you talk to those coaches about like what
it takes to get through that gauntlet.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You have to have luck, You better be healthy, you
have to have a competitive depth. You better be a
team that can hold up in the trenches, not just
with your ones, but with your twos. And you better
have a quarterback. All five of those things are strengths
at Oregon.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
And when you have the last piece, when you have
the quarterback, you can disguise.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Some of the other things absolutely and so the other
way around, not the other way around.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Not the other way around. You don't have the quarterback.
You need everything to go right. And by the way,
Dylan Gabriel is actually older than Bryce Young. He'll turn
twenty four mon December, real quick. Clemson, SMU. I think
a lot of people are gonna go with Clemson here
because They've been in these spots and Dabbo knows what
it takes. They know the environment, they're familiar with the environment.
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For SMU, it's brave new world. But to their credit,
they went undefeated in the first year in the ACC.
How do you see this game? Because I'm not so
sure Clemson should be the favorite. I'm not so sure
Clemson beats SMU. I think SMU's got so that last
piece that we just talked about, the best player on
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the field they got the quarterback. Kevin Jennings is a
difference maker and the more you want to better this
kid gets again if he's back next year. I look
at him, I look at you know, Leonori's Sellers from
South I mean to me like that's kind of the
start of the Heisman discussion. There's a few other names,
but the quarterbacks, those guys are right up there.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
You know. I have to rank the ACC top eight
quarterbacks each and every week, and for the last probably
five or six weeks, I've had Kevin Jennings at number
two behind cam Loard. I take more heat for that
on the Internet than any other place. I have a
player plays and I'm like, you ain't paying attention to
this dude. All he throws the best backed shoulder ball
I've seen in college football this year. He throws a
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great over the shoulder, drop it in the bucket ball.
He runs when he has to, even though he could
all the time. But he's really a passer first and
a runner second. So this game, to me comes down
to one very simple thing. Can Clemson stop the run?
Clemson allowed two hundred and eighty eight yards on the
ground of the Citadel and they still haven't tackled the
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North Sellers. He's still running on them. And it's odd
because with the players that they have in their front,
you should not be able to run the football in
Clemson and Louisville did the same thing to Clemson. So
the one thing that SMU does is pride themselves on
winning at the point of attack and running the football.
SMU has traits that travel. They can run the ball,
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they can stop the run, and they score on defense
and in the kicking game they do and they don't
hurt themselves.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
And what I love about Jennings' ability to run, you
mentioned he doesn't look to run first. He's not that
type of quarterback where I've seen him so slippery his
ability as a quarterback to run between the tackles.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Tackles.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, the way he's able to manipulate the pocket you
played the position. He has these phone booth runs. I
call him and he'll rip him off fifteen twenty yards.
Sometimes you're going, wait a minute. He doesn't have to
roll outside of the pocket to get free. He'll stay
in the pocket, he'll step up, he'll beat pressure. It's
one move to the side and then he goes and
he's running between the tackles. And then when he gets
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into space, he can make guys miss. There's very few
quarterbacks that we've seen over the years in college football
that run that way.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
He navigates the pocket, tackle to tackle, and where he's
got great instincts is he keeps his eyes down field.
But he has a sense of what I call the
front door. He has a sense of when the front
door's open, and that's either going to be between the
A gap the center and the guard, or the bgap
the guard and the tablets. Either way, and like you said,
all of a sudden, it's like and he shoots out
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of it. Well, if you get caught in man defense,
you don't have anybody to account for him, and he's
taken off and run. It's like his runs are very calculated,
you know. And sometimes they run him as part of
the designated run game and they should. You got to
keep people on their heels. But yeah, he just he's
got a real instinctive savvy way about him.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, if the moment doesn't get too big, I like
SMU and that came.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Out right real quick to that point, and you mentioned it,
and it is, Matt It does matter because Clemson's been there,
SMU have It's been uncharted territory, uncharted waters. But you
got to also acknowledge the fact that every week has
been uncharted waters for this SMU team. Everybody's waiting for
him to fail. They continue to rise to the occasion.
So you could make an argument that, like they've navigated
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these waters as good as anybody in college football. So
maybe this moment won't be too big. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, And they got a bunch of guys who transferred
from Miami who have played in the ACC have power
five experience, power four experience as it's called. Now, before
we wrap up, I want to hit the Panthers Bucks
game from yesterday, because two weeks in a row, Carolina
goes down on a last second field goal. I equated
it on the air to Rocky one Rocky two in
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the sense that that first Rocky movie, nobody expects anything
out of Balboa. Right, You're facing the champion, Apollo Creed. Okay,
it's a payday fight. You're gonna go in there, You're
gonna get your butt kicked. You're gonna go down in
the second round. That's it. And that's what people expected
when they played the Chiefs and then they go the distance.
They don't win what they push Kansas City to the distance,
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and you kind of felt, even though it was a loss,
felt like a win. Oh my gosh, Hey, Kansas City
played a really good game. They scored on their first
five drives. This wasn't fluky, and you push them to
the brink. That's what made Tampa Bay so frustrating. Where
this past week even though this team had its struggles
early in the season and was getting blown out by
seemingly everybody, getting close, this past weekend didn't feel right
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because you said, you missed a couple of field goals
the fl killer to finish, You had the lead with
thirty seconds and you needed one more stop. You had
the ball in overtime inside the forty with a chance
to kick the winning field goal, you bumbled it away.
That almost felt like, m Yeah, this team has leveled up,
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it has improved, it has progressed, and that was a
game they should have had.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Should have had absolutely And I said this to you
before we started this episode. Sometimes when I when I
see I'm watching a game college or pro whatever, and
I see the quarterback he makes a player and he
gets out of bounds or he scores this and that,
I love to watch the people around him. I want
to see how they react. I want to see how
they interact. And I got this sense yesterday that this
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team likes him. Bryce likes Bryce. They're they're excited when
he does well. They want I think they want to
do well for him. Like there's something I don't know
if he's got the locker room or if he's got
an eight sent of leadership skills, but to watch his
teammates when something good happens, there's a lot of smiles
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under those face masks, and you know that's stuff that
needs to be gauged. I mean, those are things that
coach Canalis is looking at and he said, how does
your quarterback affect people? And then you very quickly came
back and you're one hundred percent correct. What people are
doing in that league is they're saying, hey, listen, if
you beat us through the air or you beat us downfield,
we're going to shake your hand and tell you a
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nice job. You got to win, but we're going to
dare you to do it. So they're loading the box
and they're gonna say, all right, kid, what do you got?
And to your point, you said, what a great opportunity
for him to take the next step.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I think these next five weeks, and it started a
couple of weeks ago. Teams see this Panthers offensive line.
They see what Chewba Hubbard can do. He's gonna run
for a thousand plus yards this season. He's less than
one hundred yards from getting there. Jonathan Brooks has been
back now for a couple of weeks. This is a
good running football team. This is a good offensive line
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that can beat you up in the trenches. So you're
gonna commit to the box. You're gonna commit to the run.
You're gonna commit to stopping the run, and you'll take
your chances one on one on the outside. Can Bryce
beat you over the top? Can he make the intermediate
throws downfield? And guess what, the last two weeks, he's
made a lot of them. Sure, you would like to
have some more deep throws. Probably felt like you missed
a couple against Tampa Bay. But he's getting better and
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you can see they're trusting him with more of the playbook,
with more of the offense. And it's just as if
to say, hey, for Rice to take that next step,
he's gonna have to challenge you know, these teams downfield
a little bit more. But if he does, and if
he succeeds again, it's not just his career and it's
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not just a turning point for him, it becomes a
turning point for the franchise. He gave an impassioned speech
after the Kansas City game into the locker room, which
really played well with the other fifty two guys and
the coaching staff. A lot of what was said was
not revealed, but think he kind of got the gist
of the message, Hey, we showed what we can do.
We need to now build off this. And I said
it after last week, right, if you're looking at the
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plot points and you're being fair. That Kansas City game
in the span of Bryce's career, that's the outlier game, right, Yeah,
that's the plot point. That doesn't make sense. So for
that to really be a turning point and a pivot
point for Bryce, he's got a stack evidence. Well, yeah,
he did that against Tampa Bay, had another big drive
at the end. Challenge gets tougher against Philly if he
(38:49):
puts together three or four more games like this down
the stretch. I think it just changes how you approach
the offseason. It changes how you feel about the frame
as you can already sense a different vibe. And again,
you know, you watch that game against Tampa Bay and
you're going, this is a much improved team. And that's
(39:09):
why that one stings a little more than the Chiefs one.
And you know, you got Philly this weekend, where I'll
put it this way, that that's gonna be a tough
matchup because Panthers can't stop the run Philly football, It's
gonna be a tough matchup. But underdogs have had their
luck in that city, so we'll see.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, yeah, no, I listen, I agree with you on
all your points in regards to where this team's at
where it looks like they're heading. And I'll say one
last thing about Bryce Young. I feel like his anticipatory
traits and his decisiveness have improved fairly significantly. I think
(39:47):
that's probably a result of standing on the sideline and
seeing things slow down.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
All right, that's number one, But number two, I think
what it also says is that Geese seeing the game better,
and it when he's on the field and he knows
where he's supposed to go pre snap post snap, so
he's playing with more confidence instead of thinking and wondering.
It's cutting it loose, and it's a I mean, because
(40:13):
that league, it's decision making in accuracy, right, and it's timing.
And the problem is in that league, accuracy isn't a pinhole, yeah,
where it's a hula hoop in college, right, So it's.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Tough college open and NFL open. Oh it's funny. I
was talking to a fellow play by play anouncer recently
and he had been doing a couple of NFL games
on the radio, and we were just talking about how
when you're calling a game on radio or college in
the NFL, it's a completely different cadence there's literally an
(40:48):
extra beat and a half as a play by play
outside when you're doing the game on the radio, and
when the quarterback drops back, it's a deep drop. And
you know one Mississippi two missisis if we're in the NFL,
it's drop, clap, throw, go catch first down. There is
not that hesitation, and if there is, it's usually disaster.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, bad things are going to happen.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Bad things are going to happen. Everything moves quicker, but
it is encouraging to see Bryce continue to stack evidence
and continue to stack quality games. This is a different
quarterback and by proxy, a different team. Holiday season upon us.
Where are you off to next?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I've got to travel to Bristol for a national signing
day as this is becoming the most irrelevant day in
college football now because for what sixty percent of every
class that comes in from here on out going forward,
there's probably yeah, sixty percent of the class won't even
be on the team within a year to eighteen months.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You know what you need to do? I got one.
You know what you need to do. You need to
have a separate list. You have the ESPN three hundred,
where you ran the three hundred, You need to have
a separate list fifty guys most likely to transfer coming
out of high school.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Oh, that's not a bad idea actually, But then you're
calling them out for all their their frailties and their
insecurities and all that.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
You know, what you do, what you do in this
new age, right you you turn it into a you
turn it into a prop.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Nice. Nice, Yeah,
we'll turn it into a prop. So yeah, I gotta
go to Brissol, come back Thursday, do a little radio,
and then I'm doing studio and on site support for
the a SEC Championship game on Friday night Saturday.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
All right, sounds good. I'll be at the MAC Championship
in Detroit on Saturday and then Destois off to Philadelphia. Yeah,
I got Miami, Ohio and Ohio.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
So oh my man, Hey the fighting Tim Albins, he's
a great dude.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I will Tim alban and Miami's trying to repeat and
Ohio hasn't won a MAC title since nineteen sixty eight,
so that'll be fun. And then off to Philadelphia for
Eagles Panthers on Sundays. Has been fun. We got a
few more of these and uh, I think we're gonna
have a lot to talk about next Monday. Yeah, sure,
see you then yeh.
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