October 7, 2025 • 31 mins
This week on Weekend Warriors, Anish and Tom recap the craziest weekend off College Football so far, think Drake Maye is the next great NFL quarterback, discuss how NFL offenses are adapting to the next generation of QBs, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, we do this every week. We come out
here Luke's and I are what you would probably call,
what are we elder millennials? Is that fair? Are you
gen X?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, I'm fifty one, so I might be.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, Well I lose. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I don't know where the cutoff line is.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
But I was gonna say this because I had an
illuminating conversation with a former player this week, and you know,
there is this, uh, I guess view that the kids
these days, man, they're so soft and you know, they're
not tough. And and he brought up one point which
I think applies to the athletes that we cover that
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the athletes of yesteryear didn't have to deal with, in
that people have direct access to these people. Yeah, there
is no bubble. You know it used to be, well,
I don't read the newspapers. Okay, Well, like in this
day and age, nobody reads the newspapers. But the newspaper
or the news finds you. We find you, whether it's
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through a text message or an email or through social media.
And I think sometimes we lose sight of the constant,
the constant barrage that is directed at these kids today
and you know, it's funny, like covering the Panthers just
the last couple of weeks, right the Atlanta game, the
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New England game, Miami. You go into the comments section
of anything, and it's just these wild, wild, polarizing viewpoints
depending on the outcome. And so I just think, Okay,
if you're an athlete, right, you're getting your feedback loop
and one week you're the greatest ever, and then two
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you're not good enough to lick the dirt off somebody's shoes.
That's real, and frankly, that's something that we didn't grow
up with. We see it now, but we're older. We
didn't have to deal with that when we were eighteen, nineteen,
twenty years old.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You're right, there's so much instant access, scrutiny, expectation, visibility, exposure,
whether you want it or not. You know, some of
my old college teammates and I like, we still joke
to this day, thank god there weren't camera phones when
we were playing college football. That's just talking about a
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camera phone. That's not talking about social media the Internet.
I'm just talking about a camera phone, right, And so
when you consider everything now that they're dealing with, I
mean it's a lot now, aniche I would probably also
say that when we or I came up, or the
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generation prior, we were also conditioned, in my opinion, to
better deal with failure, to better deal with hard coaching,
to better deal with respect for your elders and your coaches,
the understanding that life's not fair and everything's not going
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to go your way. But now what's happened is we've
propped up all of these kids so much, and we've
put them into whether it's high school recruiting, whether it's
the current college player name, image and likeness to transfer
portal is we've put them in a position where the
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expectation should be that they need to be more accountable
than ever before and that they need to hold up
their end of the bargain. Yet at the same time,
we've made it so easy for them not.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Right, we're throwing around free money. We are utilizing money
to sign players who haven't done a thing yet, like
it would.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Be so asking them to grow up faster than we
were correct.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, and we're throwing a lot of this at them.
You know, let's just say you're a happen to be
a high profile guy and you know, next thing, you know,
you got three four hundred and five hundred thousand dollars
being thrown at you. You don't have the support structure
to truly manage that. Likely in most cases, you probably
don't always have the best people hanging around you with
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your best interest at heart and in many regards. As
a result, we're going to find ourselves over the next
five to seven to ten years where there are going
to be a lot of kids in college that were
good players, that made a lot of money, and then
the reality is going to hit when real world sets
in and football's not there anymore and they're not the
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most important thing anymore. And now they're out in the
job force, working with everybody else, fighting and scrapping and
get a fifty thousand dollars a year job and you
talk about hitting a wall. I mean, that's that's going
to be a doser reality that is going to be
tough to swallow.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
To your earlier point, all right, hard coaching, Right, it's
one thing where your coach gives you some honest feedback, Hey,
you're not doing this, you need to be better here,
you're not trying. We need this from you. It's another
thing when that comes from a thousand people you don't know,
who don't know maybe what your coach does know about
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something that you're going through or something that you're dealing with,
whether it's an injury or otherwise. Right, but you're getting that,
And then what makes that challenging is the other part
of that, Right when you're that star player your whole
life and you know your highlights are out there on
social media and everybody's telling you, as the kids say,
they glaze you. Yeah, I hope I'm using that correctly.
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There you go. But like all you see is, man,
you're the best, You're the goat, You're this, you're that.
So that effect too now creates intentional or unintentional. But
like the consequence of that is like you start to
believe what you read, no doubt, you start to believe
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what you read when it goes the other way as well.
And you know, I was I was just thinking about
that because I said, sometimes, you know, maybe I don't
cut them enough slack because we didn't have that. But
I said, you know, nobody was ever nitpicking and criticizing
every aspect of everything that I did. It's like the
thing with the diary now, right. When we were kids
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and somebody had a diary, you didn't want anybody to
read it. Now you get upset if nobody reads it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Correct You're exactly right, because you everything.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Is out there in front of everybody all the time.
Like that is a hard way I think to exist.
Like we work jobs that are I would say, somewhat
in the public eye. Yeah, I like my anonymity when
I have it correctly, Like I'm not that kind of
figure anyway. It's it's it's nice.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We unfortunately, we've put these kids in a position to
place all of their worth into the opinion of people
they don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You could say that. You could say that for not
just athletes, by the.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Way, No, of course, right, right, because that's the social
media climate that we're in. But with the scrutiny in
the microscope that's on athletes, and what happens is oftentimes
they're not old enough or emotionally mature enough to deal
with the peaks and values of that. To your point,
it's great when everybody's patting you on the back and
telling you how good you are, but then how do
you handle following a bad performance that just mad rush
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and tidal wave of negativity coming from people that don't
know you, you don't know them, and you're a nineteen
year old kid. How do you not get caught up
in that and how that affect you in a negative way.
I mean, what a challenge for not only the kids themselves,
but the people around the kids, the coaches that are
trying to get the best out of the kids, when
you're constantly dealing with this emotional rollercoaster.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Before all the kids say Okay, Boomer and click off,
Let's get to football, ladies and gentlemen, the weekend throw
a touchdown, Weekend Warriors. I think we're watching a breakout
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star emerge in the NFL, and Panther fans got to
see him up close in person in a couple of weeks.
UNC is aware and I think they finally did put
a post out on what Drake May did on Sunday night.
But we have had a chance to watch Drake May
kind of unfold in our own backyard. He was in
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Charlotte and he goes to UNC. He's got a great
family tradition there. Dad played quarterback. Brother hit a huge
shot to get UNC to the Final four a few
years ago, won a national Championship and Drake May watching
that game Sunday night against Buffalo in Buffalo, what he did,
it almost feels like you're watching like the next great
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quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It feels like you're watching what's what Ben Roethlisberger became right,
And you know, it's funny you talk about, you know,
North Carolina and how we all watched the lineage there
and him come up. People forget that he was committed
to Alabama for a year.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Alabama there because Bryce was already there.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Correct, And then Mac Brown's like, listen, man, you this
is where you got to be right and they end
up getting them. And to be honest with you, and
I saw a lot of their games. I actually had
quite a few of their games. He was always good,
oftentimes spectacular. If there was a concern or a worry
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is if you recall those last two years he was there,
they could never finish the season on a positive note.
They could never finish the season hot in playing their
best football. And now you're starting to see a kid mature,
grow to the point where you're going, this guy could
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mask a lot of deficiencies and he could carry us
through the development of the rest of our roster because
quite honestly, he's that good he is.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And I you know, I remember there was I was
doing a bowl game. It was actually the uh, the
Duke's Mayo Bowl. It was North Carolina South Carolina. I
think it was the first Duke's Mayo Bowl. When you know,
Dion Warwick raked us over the coals for dipping a
Springfield cookie and mayonnaise. Sam Howell was the quarterback for UNC,
and yeah, I remember on the last drive of the
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game the game was over, the tar Heels put in
Drake may garbage time, right, like just take a few
snaps and kind of watching and you're going, like, guys, six',
four he's two, thirty moves pretty, well, yeah pretty good
arm like at your backup quarterback like And Sam howell
was pretty, good don't get me. Wrong, yeah he was really.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Good and helped the program he.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Did and you're kind of watching this and you're, Like,
okay it's garbage, time don't don't read too much into.
It BUT i remember watching that unfold and, going, oh this,
guy you, know this guy might be. Something and then
you know his last name Is. Made so you know
the history and the lineage of the family. There but, yeah,
LISTEN i, mean as A panthers, guy you hate to
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like root for somebody from a different. Program but he's
A charlotte, Kid he's A unc, kid and watching what
he Did sunday, NIGHT i, mean every now and then
it kind of hits you and it's in front of
you and you're, going, oh like, that that's the star.
Turn and in year Two drake may looks like he
could be A tier one quarterback in THE nfl at some,
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point in some point soon kind.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Of neat what we're seeing With drake and Bo nicks
And jade And daniels and you, know Potentially Michael. Pennix
this is this is going to be a very exciting
AND i think long long term run for some really good.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
QUARTERBACKS i think what's fascinating is how for, years so
many of those guys who came out of those systems
in college could not adapt to THE.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Nfl, Right, well THE nfl is adapted to what they.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Know, now, Right and we're starting to see. That AND
i Think Patrick mahomes was the guinea pig for all.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
THAT i said it on this program with, You, YEAH.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I mean that was the Cliff Kingsbury Air, raid. RIGHT
i mean those, concepts those guys don't last in THE.
Nfl those guys they didn't make it in THE. Nfl,
well now they're thriving in THE.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Nfl they're thriving in THE nfl because THE nfl realized
we can't be taking a square peg and plugging it
into a round hole because we run The West coast
offense or we're multiple pro. Style that's not how these
kids are. Trained, now that's not how they've come. Up
it's not what they. Know so we better start formulating
everything around what they know and then go from there
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as opposed to the other way.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Around jump into college. FOOTBALL i want to get into
the week, ahead BUT i want to backtrack because there's
a few how did this? Happen type of, games and
the one to start with IS Ucla Penn. STATE ucla
going into The Penn state game with an interim head.
Coach mind, you had never led at any point through
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the first five weeks of the, season had never led
at any, point and they go and beat A Penn
state team that a week ago was playing in front
of a sold out house Against oregon and Took oregon
down to the. Wire how does that? HAPPEN ucla had
lost TO unlv they were getting blown out by group
of five.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Teams oh, yeah oh, Yeah And i'll tell you how it.
Happens and this is especially when you're dealing with young.
People the human condition will often take you down a
path that is so difficult to reverse because from a scheduling,
PERSPECTIVE i, mean nobody has a crystal. Ball but you
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come off of That oregon, game and if they would
have had anybody on the schedule the following week week EXCEPT,
UCLA i bet you would have had a much different.
Outcome but what happens is you come off of that
thing feeling sorry for. Yourself all of the attentions about
What James franklin can or can't do Is Drew aller or?
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Fraud is he the real? Deal and by the, way
ironically he was the best player on the field in
The ucla. Game he actually played his best in that.
Game and so what you do is you think you
can skate through because of who the opponent is and
how they've looked the previous four. Weeks it was a
psychological dead. End it was a, trap and you have
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to put that on preparation of the coaching. Staff you have,
to because there's no way you go through that entire
week and felt like you were prepared to play that
game coming off of The oregon game and thinking you
were going to go out and play.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
WELL i am wondering how long this lasts where some
of the more Tenured Big ten coaches from the Traditional
big ten schools at some, Point, okay is there a
better alternative than going TO usc going TO, ucla going To,
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oregon going To, washington especially when you're six seven weeks
into the. Season, yeah you AND i know that was
just the broadcast. Games i've had to go cross country
the last two, weeks or back To, Boston utah ten,
thirty kick back To charlotte and, again like we're just
calling the games and we're. Talking that beats you, up,
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Right like back to back. Weeks time zone. Changes your
body has to function and peak at certain, times Right
like ten thirty on The East coast is eight Thirty mountain.
Times so you get into the second, half it's twelve.
Thirty Like i'm normally, well well well past my bedtime
and to sleep by, then and it's so LIKE i
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got to, Imagine, yeah college, kids you bounce back, easier
but like at some, point at some, point does the
needle move and you, Say, okay maybe we we got
to rethink.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
This, well, listen you're you're right when you talk about
the time change shift the travel depending on how the
schedule lays. OUT i mean you just mentioned like your
schedule the last couple of. WEEKS i mean my schedule every,
WEEK i take a minimum of three flights more often
than not four From wednesday To sunday. Morning, Right and
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that's without having to play a. Game, right that's without
having to get on the bus and go through the
routine and stay in the hotel and do all of
those sorts of things and then go out and be
productive and win a football. Game you, know it's interesting,
too because for Those West coast, schools it's hard in
recruit rooting on The West. Coast, now forget, name image and,
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likeness forget the, portal just just, recruiting just trying to
say we got to keep our best kids at.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Home.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Right it's the only thing that they've really got going
for him right now is for their families of the
kids they're recruiting to actually get to see them. Play
for half of the season because if those kids go somewhere, else,
right that's hard on those, families, Right but if the
programs are struggling or the programs aren't playing well, enough
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the kid's going to gravitate towards a championship caliber. Program
and in that, conference that means you're probably going to
have to go a minimum of one thousand miles away
or eight hundred miles away or. Whatever. WHAT i totally
agree with where you're going down this. PATH i think
there are immense.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
CHALLENGES i think, again to, me college football is regional.
Rivalries and call me old, school but you know the
fact that we you don't have to struggle to Get
kansas And missouri to play or for years didn't have
And TEXAS a AND. M like what are we what
are we? Doing? RIGHT i mean that's like we don't
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Have bedlam this, year we don't Have Oklahoma Oklahoma state This,
yeah we don't have civil war next year or whatever
it's called, Now Oregon Oregon. State, yeah it's still civil
war to.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Me But Holy war's still The holy, war, Right holy?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
War? RIGHT i, Mean and we didn't have that for
like like that got interrupted because of realignment and all those.
Things so like to, me regional rivalries are a part of,
this but you, know you get new. Rivalries you get
A florida in A texas in a game where a
lot of people were looking at As Billy napier's last,
Stand florida makes a. Stand lagway plays, Better Arch manning
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continues to struggle against everybody not Named San Jose state
And Sam. HOUSTON i think the one part that sometimes
we miss About florida the defense is really, good awesome
the game AGAINST, lsu.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
They are loaded on, DEFENSE i mean really. Good and
the thing that's interesting About florida Is Dallas wilson got.
Healthy the true freshman comes in and it was, like
all of a, sudden When florida breaks the, huddle there's
now somebody that the opposition has to. Go where's that?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Guy you could throw to?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Him, Yeah and now all of a sudden it opened
everything up Because florida was able to run the. Ball
texas couldn't stop the. Run And i'll say this About,
texas AND i understand That Arch. MANNING i understand that
Arch manning has not been as advertised. YET i get,
That but they got more problems than just Arch. Manning
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they can't block anybody up front on. Offense they cannot
run the football at. All HAVING. Cj baxter on the
bench with injury has killed that, offense, Right and so
it's a recipe of a lot of different, things and
then it over magnifies because of who the quarterback. Is
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And i'm not trying to def blame From Arch. MANNING
i thought he made a couple of really really good
throws the other, day but then he still has his
pensant for missing the wide, open easy.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Ones.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Right but they're not run, blocking they are consistent in pass.
Protection they can't run the ball to get out of
the chains on early, downs and so it's more than just.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Him run the, tape go, back go back to the.
Archives first episode that we did this, YEAR i THINK
i mentioned. IT i, said my big worry About texas
was what they lost up front on the offensive, line,
Right and often that gets overlooked when you have a
quarterback with the pedigree Of Arch. Manning, yeah, yeah we
have seen this movie in college. FOOTBALL i don't know
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how many times really good quarterback loses a bunch of
his quality offensive. Linemen the old line takes a step,
back so does the, quarterback so does the. Offense the
team loses games that you thought on paper they should
win because not enough people pay attention to what's going
on in the.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Trenches, well and we assume because They're texas and it's
just plug and. Play, well it's not always ug and.
Play maybe that next guy is not quite, ready you,
know maybe they don't have the right group of five
in the right. Positions maybe injury has to do with.
That maybe they're playing banged. Up you, know there's a
lot of different. Variables and again the assumption is because
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of who you, are that you'll just be able to fix,
it or you'll wave a magic wand and it'll be
just like it was a year.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Ago before we wrap, Up i'm gonna give you a
one guy WHO i saw last week WHO i just
came away really impressed. BY i think he's got a
chance to be a big star by next year in college.
Football he's the quarterback AT byu Bear. Bachmeiner oh, yeah
this kid wears number forty seven and looks. Awful, LISTEN
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i know you're a. Quarterback andre war SAID i would
never wear number forty, seven you, know but he used
to be a running. Back played, linebacker kept the number
plays a little like forty. Seven they gave him essentially
a kid's menu the first few. Weeks oh, yeah we
don't want you to do a whole. Lot you've got
a veteran team around, you you got a good old,
line you got a good running. Back and then they gradually, added,
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okay here's a side, dish here's a side. Dish, well
they took the training wheels off Last friday and they
let him, throw and, boy this kid made some big time. Throws,
yeah slipping it all over the field through for three
hundred some odd, yards a couple of. Touchdowns first play
of every drive it was like the Old. Raiders remember
when The raiders would call A Hail mary to begin every. Game,
yeah first play of every drive felt like it was
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a shot. Play and this guy took a shot downfield
and he hit a couple of. THEM i, mean some big,
plays and you're kind of watching the future and you're, going,
oh this kid's got a chance to be really. Good
and then when you talk to, him he's GOT i
think close to a photographic, memory the ability to marry
tape and concepts and then see it on the. Field smart,
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kid renaissance, man plays the, guitar sings from a really
gifted family, academically, musically. Athletically he's a true. Freshman, yeah
he's a true. FRESHMAN i really thought When Jake Rhetz
laugh was dismissed FROM byu for violating the honor, code
and you can look that up on your own, TIME
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i thought the ceiling for that program dropped. CONSIDERABLY i,
thought with reds laf who's bawling out At, Tulane, yeah totally.
AGREE i had a team that was pretty good last
year that probably could have won at least a playoff,
game if not, more this. Year AND i, thought now
the true freshman, quarterback the ceiling comes. Down this kid's
got a pretty high. Ceiling. LOUSE i don't know how
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much of him you've, seen but ire he's gonna be
a good.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
One funny you asked me that this week of all,
weeks BECAUSE i just finished an article that's gonna run
ON espn dot com of the top ten freshman in
red shirt freshmen playing quarterback in college football right. Now
AND i want to go back to something you said
when you when you first expressed your comments About, bachmeier
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IS i think that the coaching staff deserves a lot
of credit it for ingraining in the. Kid, listen don't
have a lot of, experience but we've got a lot
of experience around. You we're a physical football. Team we
can run the. Ball we need you to make the
routine plays. Routinely you don't have to make every, play
make the plays that are there to be. Made and
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then as we continue to grow and you get experience
and there's a larger sample, size and we'll add a
little condiment, here and we'll add a little condiment, there
and next thing you, know we're almost halfway through the.
Season and as you, said they took the training wheels
off and, Said, okay we trust this. Guy. Now it's
hard to trust the true freshman quarterback right because you're
so worried about negative plays and. Turnovers and rightfully, SO i,
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mean at the end of the, day BUT i couldn't
agree with you. More i've GOT ecu At tulane this,
week So i'll See retz. Laugh but WHEN i watched
THE ECU byu game BEFORE i HAD ecu And, army
AND ecu kind of screwed that game. Up they had
every opportunity to win, it but that was the First
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Big road contest And Dowdy Fickland stadium and it was.
Packed and WHEN i saw how he handled, HIMSELF i was,
like all, right this guy's got some emotional, stability some competitive.
Temperament he's going to be just. Fine and and so
not surprised to hear your comments on. Him i'll give
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you another. Surprise you just gave me a. Player i'm
going to give you a team that we're probably not
talking about, enough and that's The Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Bearcats Pete Iowa. State and let me.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Tell you Something like every WEEK i kind of scrolled
down And, i'm you, know looking at some results and
keep looking at Those cincinnati. Scores i'm, like are they pretty?
Good like this? Key this key is pretty damn? Good
and you, know you're looking at the parody and the
competitive balance of The big twelve and it's like everybody
wants to talk About Texas tech or.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You, Know, utah or nobody's talking About. Cincinnati you know
what sets up For. Cincinnati i'm looking at the remaining.
Schedule they GET ucf At Oklahoma, State baylor At. Utah
that'll be a tough.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
One, Yeah, arizona that's a home game home against B
yu AT, tcu they Avoid Texas tech.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
That could be A Big twelve championship game without playing
each other in the rere.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Season they Avoid houston like they have a schedule where you,
Know arizona's been better than, Expected utah has been. Better,
YEAH uyu is certainly pretty, good but that's a manageable
schedule for The Big twelve the rest of.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Nobody nobody's talking about them pretty.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Crazy so where are you off to this? Week AT
twu lane At? Tulane, okay it's a nice press box Like.
TULANE i know they got the one loss to who's
At ole Miss? Right that's, Yeah, yeah that's.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
It they've they've. Done they've done a pretty nice. JOB
i don't know if they're as good as they've been
a life last two to three. Years they only returned
five total starters on either side of the, Ball so
they got a bunch of just like everybody else in college,
football got a bunch of fresh new. Faces but it'll
be interesting BECAUSE, ecu from WHAT i see on tape
and having done one of their, games it's easy for
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everybody to talk About, Memphis South florida And, Tulane, right
NOW ecu is the best team in that league that
nobody's talking.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
About i'll give you one more Because i've got him On.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Friday North, Texas oh, yeah oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So file this name. Away Eric morris is their head.
Coach were not long to speak to, Them, yeah a
couple of hours. Here so this was the guy who
has kind of become a quarterback. Whisperer mm. Hm he
got Cam ward to come To Incarnate word correct the
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head coach and part of his recruitment and scouting of Cam, ward,
who by the, way played in a wing t offense
in high, school played in a wing t offense in high.
School goy ended up being the number one. Pick they
were running essentially triple. Option he watched his basketball tape
and he, SAID i watched his basketball tape AND i
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saw pretty good. ATHLETE i saw like a couple of
throws that he was making from beyond half, court And
i'm going those are dimes like this guy can. Throw
so he gets cam, Warded Incarnate word takes him with
Takes camward with him To Washington. State then you know
who he recruits To Washington. State he never coached, him
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but he Recruits John matteer. Here, correct he Had Chandler
morris At North texas last. Year Now morris has played
for like eleven different. Schools morris is now lighting it
up For. Virginia who's at the, Time, well and lit
it up For North. Texas he threw for four thousand.
Yards and how about? This are you aware of the
story of the kid who he's got at quarterback, now
mess To Makers.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Maker, YES i am very aware.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Of it's unbelievable through mess To maker never started a
single game in high school as a varsity. QUARTERBACK i
know that not. Unbelievable and he's got eleven. Touchdowns, nope
he might Be conference player of the year or at
least he's in the. Running, yeah this guy never started
a single game at quarterback while playing high school. Football
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he got more snaps playing defensive back and punter than
he did at quarterback in high.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
School, crazy isn't?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It in that? Wild how does that?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
HAPPEN i know it's.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Crazy and now again like he played at a high
school where the kid who was the starter is now At,
louisville you, know backup quarterback At. LOUISVILLE i think a
four star. Recruit so that stuff. Happens but this kid
goes To North texas last year as a walk on
And Chandler moors is the. Starter he beats out four
or five other guys to be the number two. Qbah
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Chandler moors then decides to opt out of the ball,
game hits the. Portal this kid gets to start the ball,
game throws for close to four hundred, yards was put
on scholarship that, week and then they go back into the.
Portal they go get some kid From miami to come
and play. Quarterback who williams Uh. Poffenberger oh, yeah that's.
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Right he was the backup last. Year, yeah Cam ward
At miami and they bring him. In he had played At,
albany was like rookie of The year in THE, cia
and mess To maker beats this kid out like it's
it's it's a real Life rudy.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Story it's a great.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Story rudy didn't see the field as much as this.
Kid yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Right and by the, way who they.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Playing they're Playing South.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Florida oh you're gonna get a good.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
One. Yeah quarterback From brown is as good of a
dual threat quarterback as you'll find In.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
America he's a Monster they've done a really good job
in the portal In South florida, too revamping that entire.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Roster so it be a fun weekend and then you
are off to Where next week.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Uh, OH i Have East carolina again Against. Tulsa Ingreen zolchi.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Will be getting to know each other really. WELL i,
know right, well we will talk to you then next, week, alright,
man see it mm hm
You know, we do this every week. We come out
here Luke's and I are what you would probably call,
what are we elder millennials? Is that fair? Are you
gen X?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, I'm fifty one, so I might be.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, Well I lose. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I don't know where the cutoff line is.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
But I was gonna say this because I had an
illuminating conversation with a former player this week, and you know,
there is this, uh, I guess view that the kids
these days, man, they're so soft and you know, they're
not tough. And and he brought up one point which
I think applies to the athletes that we cover that
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the athletes of yesteryear didn't have to deal with, in
that people have direct access to these people. Yeah, there
is no bubble. You know it used to be, well,
I don't read the newspapers. Okay, Well, like in this
day and age, nobody reads the newspapers. But the newspaper
or the news finds you. We find you, whether it's
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through a text message or an email or through social media.
And I think sometimes we lose sight of the constant,
the constant barrage that is directed at these kids today
and you know, it's funny, like covering the Panthers just
the last couple of weeks, right the Atlanta game, the
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New England game, Miami. You go into the comments section
of anything, and it's just these wild, wild, polarizing viewpoints
depending on the outcome. And so I just think, Okay,
if you're an athlete, right, you're getting your feedback loop
and one week you're the greatest ever, and then two
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you're not good enough to lick the dirt off somebody's shoes.
That's real, and frankly, that's something that we didn't grow
up with. We see it now, but we're older. We
didn't have to deal with that when we were eighteen, nineteen,
twenty years old.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You're right, there's so much instant access, scrutiny, expectation, visibility, exposure,
whether you want it or not. You know, some of
my old college teammates and I like, we still joke
to this day, thank god there weren't camera phones when
we were playing college football. That's just talking about a
(02:27):
camera phone. That's not talking about social media the Internet.
I'm just talking about a camera phone, right, And so
when you consider everything now that they're dealing with, I
mean it's a lot now, aniche I would probably also
say that when we or I came up, or the
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generation prior, we were also conditioned, in my opinion, to
better deal with failure, to better deal with hard coaching,
to better deal with respect for your elders and your coaches,
the understanding that life's not fair and everything's not going
(03:15):
to go your way. But now what's happened is we've
propped up all of these kids so much, and we've
put them into whether it's high school recruiting, whether it's
the current college player name, image and likeness to transfer
portal is we've put them in a position where the
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expectation should be that they need to be more accountable
than ever before and that they need to hold up
their end of the bargain. Yet at the same time,
we've made it so easy for them not.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Right, we're throwing around free money. We are utilizing money
to sign players who haven't done a thing yet, like
it would.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Be so asking them to grow up faster than we
were correct.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, and we're throwing a lot of this at them.
You know, let's just say you're a happen to be
a high profile guy and you know, next thing, you know,
you got three four hundred and five hundred thousand dollars
being thrown at you. You don't have the support structure
to truly manage that. Likely in most cases, you probably
don't always have the best people hanging around you with
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your best interest at heart and in many regards. As
a result, we're going to find ourselves over the next
five to seven to ten years where there are going
to be a lot of kids in college that were
good players, that made a lot of money, and then
the reality is going to hit when real world sets
in and football's not there anymore and they're not the
(04:41):
most important thing anymore. And now they're out in the
job force, working with everybody else, fighting and scrapping and
get a fifty thousand dollars a year job and you
talk about hitting a wall. I mean, that's that's going
to be a doser reality that is going to be
tough to swallow.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
To your earlier point, all right, hard coaching, Right, it's
one thing where your coach gives you some honest feedback, Hey,
you're not doing this, you need to be better here,
you're not trying. We need this from you. It's another
thing when that comes from a thousand people you don't know,
who don't know maybe what your coach does know about
(05:18):
something that you're going through or something that you're dealing with,
whether it's an injury or otherwise. Right, but you're getting that,
And then what makes that challenging is the other part
of that, Right when you're that star player your whole
life and you know your highlights are out there on
social media and everybody's telling you, as the kids say,
they glaze you. Yeah, I hope I'm using that correctly.
(05:41):
There you go. But like all you see is, man,
you're the best, You're the goat, You're this, you're that.
So that effect too now creates intentional or unintentional. But
like the consequence of that is like you start to
believe what you read, no doubt, you start to believe
(06:01):
what you read when it goes the other way as well.
And you know, I was I was just thinking about
that because I said, sometimes, you know, maybe I don't
cut them enough slack because we didn't have that. But
I said, you know, nobody was ever nitpicking and criticizing
every aspect of everything that I did. It's like the
thing with the diary now, right. When we were kids
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and somebody had a diary, you didn't want anybody to
read it. Now you get upset if nobody reads it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Correct You're exactly right, because you everything.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Is out there in front of everybody all the time.
Like that is a hard way I think to exist.
Like we work jobs that are I would say, somewhat
in the public eye. Yeah, I like my anonymity when
I have it correctly, Like I'm not that kind of
figure anyway. It's it's it's nice.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We unfortunately, we've put these kids in a position to
place all of their worth into the opinion of people
they don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You could say that. You could say that for not
just athletes, by the.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Way, No, of course, right, right, because that's the social
media climate that we're in. But with the scrutiny in
the microscope that's on athletes, and what happens is oftentimes
they're not old enough or emotionally mature enough to deal
with the peaks and values of that. To your point,
it's great when everybody's patting you on the back and
telling you how good you are, but then how do
you handle following a bad performance that just mad rush
(07:28):
and tidal wave of negativity coming from people that don't
know you, you don't know them, and you're a nineteen
year old kid. How do you not get caught up
in that and how that affect you in a negative way.
I mean, what a challenge for not only the kids themselves,
but the people around the kids, the coaches that are
trying to get the best out of the kids, when
you're constantly dealing with this emotional rollercoaster.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Before all the kids say Okay, Boomer and click off,
Let's get to football, ladies and gentlemen, the weekend throw
a touchdown, Weekend Warriors. I think we're watching a breakout
(08:14):
star emerge in the NFL, and Panther fans got to
see him up close in person in a couple of weeks.
UNC is aware and I think they finally did put
a post out on what Drake May did on Sunday night.
But we have had a chance to watch Drake May
kind of unfold in our own backyard. He was in
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Charlotte and he goes to UNC. He's got a great
family tradition there. Dad played quarterback. Brother hit a huge
shot to get UNC to the Final four a few
years ago, won a national Championship and Drake May watching
that game Sunday night against Buffalo in Buffalo, what he did,
it almost feels like you're watching like the next great
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quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It feels like you're watching what's what Ben Roethlisberger became right,
And you know, it's funny you talk about, you know,
North Carolina and how we all watched the lineage there
and him come up. People forget that he was committed
to Alabama for a year.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Alabama there because Bryce was already there.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Correct, And then Mac Brown's like, listen, man, you this
is where you got to be right and they end
up getting them. And to be honest with you, and
I saw a lot of their games. I actually had
quite a few of their games. He was always good,
oftentimes spectacular. If there was a concern or a worry
(09:43):
is if you recall those last two years he was there,
they could never finish the season on a positive note.
They could never finish the season hot in playing their
best football. And now you're starting to see a kid mature,
grow to the point where you're going, this guy could
(10:04):
mask a lot of deficiencies and he could carry us
through the development of the rest of our roster because
quite honestly, he's that good he is.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And I you know, I remember there was I was
doing a bowl game. It was actually the uh, the
Duke's Mayo Bowl. It was North Carolina South Carolina. I
think it was the first Duke's Mayo Bowl. When you know,
Dion Warwick raked us over the coals for dipping a
Springfield cookie and mayonnaise. Sam Howell was the quarterback for UNC,
and yeah, I remember on the last drive of the
(10:38):
game the game was over, the tar Heels put in
Drake may garbage time, right, like just take a few
snaps and kind of watching and you're going, like, guys, six',
four he's two, thirty moves pretty, well, yeah pretty good
arm like at your backup quarterback like And Sam howell
was pretty, good don't get me. Wrong, yeah he was really.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Good and helped the program he.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Did and you're kind of watching this and you're, Like,
okay it's garbage, time don't don't read too much into.
It BUT i remember watching that unfold and, going, oh this,
guy you, know this guy might be. Something and then
you know his last name Is. Made so you know
the history and the lineage of the family. There but, yeah,
LISTEN i, mean as A panthers, guy you hate to
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like root for somebody from a different. Program but he's
A charlotte, Kid he's A unc, kid and watching what
he Did sunday, NIGHT i, mean every now and then
it kind of hits you and it's in front of
you and you're, going, oh like, that that's the star.
Turn and in year Two drake may looks like he
could be A tier one quarterback in THE nfl at some,
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point in some point soon kind.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Of neat what we're seeing With drake and Bo nicks
And jade And daniels and you, know Potentially Michael. Pennix
this is this is going to be a very exciting
AND i think long long term run for some really good.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
QUARTERBACKS i think what's fascinating is how for, years so
many of those guys who came out of those systems
in college could not adapt to THE.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Nfl, Right, well THE nfl is adapted to what they.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Know, now, Right and we're starting to see. That AND
i Think Patrick mahomes was the guinea pig for all.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
THAT i said it on this program with, You, YEAH.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I mean that was the Cliff Kingsbury Air, raid. RIGHT
i mean those, concepts those guys don't last in THE.
Nfl those guys they didn't make it in THE. Nfl,
well now they're thriving in THE.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Nfl they're thriving in THE nfl because THE nfl realized
we can't be taking a square peg and plugging it
into a round hole because we run The West coast
offense or we're multiple pro. Style that's not how these
kids are. Trained, now that's not how they've come. Up
it's not what they. Know so we better start formulating
everything around what they know and then go from there
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as opposed to the other way.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Around jump into college. FOOTBALL i want to get into
the week, ahead BUT i want to backtrack because there's
a few how did this? Happen type of, games and
the one to start with IS Ucla Penn. STATE ucla
going into The Penn state game with an interim head.
Coach mind, you had never led at any point through
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the first five weeks of the, season had never led
at any, point and they go and beat A Penn
state team that a week ago was playing in front
of a sold out house Against oregon and Took oregon
down to the. Wire how does that? HAPPEN ucla had
lost TO unlv they were getting blown out by group
of five.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Teams oh, yeah oh, Yeah And i'll tell you how it.
Happens and this is especially when you're dealing with young.
People the human condition will often take you down a
path that is so difficult to reverse because from a scheduling,
PERSPECTIVE i, mean nobody has a crystal. Ball but you
(14:04):
come off of That oregon, game and if they would
have had anybody on the schedule the following week week EXCEPT,
UCLA i bet you would have had a much different.
Outcome but what happens is you come off of that
thing feeling sorry for. Yourself all of the attentions about
What James franklin can or can't do Is Drew aller or?
(14:27):
Fraud is he the real? Deal and by the, way
ironically he was the best player on the field in
The ucla. Game he actually played his best in that.
Game and so what you do is you think you
can skate through because of who the opponent is and
how they've looked the previous four. Weeks it was a
psychological dead. End it was a, trap and you have
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to put that on preparation of the coaching. Staff you have,
to because there's no way you go through that entire
week and felt like you were prepared to play that
game coming off of The oregon game and thinking you
were going to go out and play.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
WELL i am wondering how long this lasts where some
of the more Tenured Big ten coaches from the Traditional
big ten schools at some, Point, okay is there a
better alternative than going TO usc going TO, ucla going To,
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oregon going To, washington especially when you're six seven weeks
into the. Season, yeah you AND i know that was
just the broadcast. Games i've had to go cross country
the last two, weeks or back To, Boston utah ten,
thirty kick back To charlotte and, again like we're just
calling the games and we're. Talking that beats you, up,
(15:48):
Right like back to back. Weeks time zone. Changes your
body has to function and peak at certain, times Right
like ten thirty on The East coast is eight Thirty mountain.
Times so you get into the second, half it's twelve.
Thirty Like i'm normally, well well well past my bedtime
and to sleep by, then and it's so LIKE i
(16:09):
got to, Imagine, yeah college, kids you bounce back, easier
but like at some, point at some, point does the
needle move and you, Say, okay maybe we we got
to rethink.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
This, well, listen you're you're right when you talk about
the time change shift the travel depending on how the
schedule lays. OUT i mean you just mentioned like your
schedule the last couple of. WEEKS i mean my schedule every,
WEEK i take a minimum of three flights more often
than not four From wednesday To sunday. Morning, Right and
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that's without having to play a. Game, right that's without
having to get on the bus and go through the
routine and stay in the hotel and do all of
those sorts of things and then go out and be
productive and win a football. Game you, know it's interesting,
too because for Those West coast, schools it's hard in
recruit rooting on The West. Coast, now forget, name image and,
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likeness forget the, portal just just, recruiting just trying to
say we got to keep our best kids at.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Home.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Right it's the only thing that they've really got going
for him right now is for their families of the
kids they're recruiting to actually get to see them. Play
for half of the season because if those kids go somewhere, else,
right that's hard on those, families, Right but if the
programs are struggling or the programs aren't playing well, enough
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the kid's going to gravitate towards a championship caliber. Program
and in that, conference that means you're probably going to
have to go a minimum of one thousand miles away
or eight hundred miles away or. Whatever. WHAT i totally
agree with where you're going down this. PATH i think
there are immense.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
CHALLENGES i think, again to, me college football is regional.
Rivalries and call me old, school but you know the
fact that we you don't have to struggle to Get
kansas And missouri to play or for years didn't have
And TEXAS a AND. M like what are we what
are we? Doing? RIGHT i mean that's like we don't
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Have bedlam this, year we don't Have Oklahoma Oklahoma state This,
yeah we don't have civil war next year or whatever
it's called, Now Oregon Oregon. State, yeah it's still civil
war to.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Me But Holy war's still The holy, war, Right holy?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
War? RIGHT i, Mean and we didn't have that for
like like that got interrupted because of realignment and all those.
Things so like to, me regional rivalries are a part of,
this but you, know you get new. Rivalries you get
A florida in A texas in a game where a
lot of people were looking at As Billy napier's last,
Stand florida makes a. Stand lagway plays, Better Arch manning
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continues to struggle against everybody not Named San Jose state
And Sam. HOUSTON i think the one part that sometimes
we miss About florida the defense is really, good awesome
the game AGAINST, lsu.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
They are loaded on, DEFENSE i mean really. Good and
the thing that's interesting About florida Is Dallas wilson got.
Healthy the true freshman comes in and it was, like
all of a, sudden When florida breaks the, huddle there's
now somebody that the opposition has to. Go where's that?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Guy you could throw to?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Him, Yeah and now all of a sudden it opened
everything up Because florida was able to run the. Ball
texas couldn't stop the. Run And i'll say this About,
texas AND i understand That Arch. MANNING i understand that
Arch manning has not been as advertised. YET i get,
That but they got more problems than just Arch. Manning
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they can't block anybody up front on. Offense they cannot
run the football at. All HAVING. Cj baxter on the
bench with injury has killed that, offense, Right and so
it's a recipe of a lot of different, things and
then it over magnifies because of who the quarterback. Is
(19:58):
And i'm not trying to def blame From Arch. MANNING
i thought he made a couple of really really good
throws the other, day but then he still has his
pensant for missing the wide, open easy.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Ones.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Right but they're not run, blocking they are consistent in pass.
Protection they can't run the ball to get out of
the chains on early, downs and so it's more than just.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Him run the, tape go, back go back to the.
Archives first episode that we did this, YEAR i THINK
i mentioned. IT i, said my big worry About texas
was what they lost up front on the offensive, line,
Right and often that gets overlooked when you have a
quarterback with the pedigree Of Arch. Manning, yeah, yeah we
have seen this movie in college. FOOTBALL i don't know
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how many times really good quarterback loses a bunch of
his quality offensive. Linemen the old line takes a step,
back so does the, quarterback so does the. Offense the
team loses games that you thought on paper they should
win because not enough people pay attention to what's going
on in the.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Trenches, well and we assume because They're texas and it's
just plug and. Play, well it's not always ug and.
Play maybe that next guy is not quite, ready you,
know maybe they don't have the right group of five
in the right. Positions maybe injury has to do with.
That maybe they're playing banged. Up you, know there's a
lot of different. Variables and again the assumption is because
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of who you, are that you'll just be able to fix,
it or you'll wave a magic wand and it'll be
just like it was a year.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Ago before we wrap, Up i'm gonna give you a
one guy WHO i saw last week WHO i just
came away really impressed. BY i think he's got a
chance to be a big star by next year in college.
Football he's the quarterback AT byu Bear. Bachmeiner oh, yeah
this kid wears number forty seven and looks. Awful, LISTEN
(21:43):
i know you're a. Quarterback andre war SAID i would
never wear number forty, seven you, know but he used
to be a running. Back played, linebacker kept the number
plays a little like forty. Seven they gave him essentially
a kid's menu the first few. Weeks oh, yeah we
don't want you to do a whole. Lot you've got
a veteran team around, you you got a good old,
line you got a good running. Back and then they gradually, added,
(22:05):
okay here's a side, dish here's a side. Dish, well
they took the training wheels off Last friday and they
let him, throw and, boy this kid made some big time. Throws,
yeah slipping it all over the field through for three
hundred some odd, yards a couple of. Touchdowns first play
of every drive it was like the Old. Raiders remember
when The raiders would call A Hail mary to begin every. Game,
yeah first play of every drive felt like it was
(22:28):
a shot. Play and this guy took a shot downfield
and he hit a couple of. THEM i, mean some big,
plays and you're kind of watching the future and you're, going,
oh this kid's got a chance to be really. Good
and then when you talk to, him he's GOT i
think close to a photographic, memory the ability to marry
tape and concepts and then see it on the. Field smart,
(22:49):
kid renaissance, man plays the, guitar sings from a really
gifted family, academically, musically. Athletically he's a true. Freshman, yeah
he's a true. FRESHMAN i really thought When Jake Rhetz
laugh was dismissed FROM byu for violating the honor, code
and you can look that up on your own, TIME
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i thought the ceiling for that program dropped. CONSIDERABLY i,
thought with reds laf who's bawling out At, Tulane, yeah totally.
AGREE i had a team that was pretty good last
year that probably could have won at least a playoff,
game if not, more this. Year AND i, thought now
the true freshman, quarterback the ceiling comes. Down this kid's
got a pretty high. Ceiling. LOUSE i don't know how
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much of him you've, seen but ire he's gonna be
a good.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
One funny you asked me that this week of all,
weeks BECAUSE i just finished an article that's gonna run
ON espn dot com of the top ten freshman in
red shirt freshmen playing quarterback in college football right. Now
AND i want to go back to something you said
when you when you first expressed your comments About, bachmeier
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IS i think that the coaching staff deserves a lot
of credit it for ingraining in the. Kid, listen don't
have a lot of, experience but we've got a lot
of experience around. You we're a physical football. Team we
can run the. Ball we need you to make the
routine plays. Routinely you don't have to make every, play
make the plays that are there to be. Made and
(24:18):
then as we continue to grow and you get experience
and there's a larger sample, size and we'll add a
little condiment, here and we'll add a little condiment, there
and next thing you, know we're almost halfway through the.
Season and as you, said they took the training wheels
off and, Said, okay we trust this. Guy. Now it's
hard to trust the true freshman quarterback right because you're
so worried about negative plays and. Turnovers and rightfully, SO i,
(24:40):
mean at the end of the, day BUT i couldn't
agree with you. More i've GOT ecu At tulane this,
week So i'll See retz. Laugh but WHEN i watched
THE ECU byu game BEFORE i HAD ecu And, army
AND ecu kind of screwed that game. Up they had
every opportunity to win, it but that was the First
(25:03):
Big road contest And Dowdy Fickland stadium and it was.
Packed and WHEN i saw how he handled, HIMSELF i was,
like all, right this guy's got some emotional, stability some competitive.
Temperament he's going to be just. Fine and and so
not surprised to hear your comments on. Him i'll give
(25:24):
you another. Surprise you just gave me a. Player i'm
going to give you a team that we're probably not
talking about, enough and that's The Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Bearcats Pete Iowa. State and let me.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Tell you Something like every WEEK i kind of scrolled
down And, i'm you, know looking at some results and
keep looking at Those cincinnati. Scores i'm, like are they pretty?
Good like this? Key this key is pretty damn? Good
and you, know you're looking at the parody and the
competitive balance of The big twelve and it's like everybody
wants to talk About Texas tech or.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You, Know, utah or nobody's talking About. Cincinnati you know
what sets up For. Cincinnati i'm looking at the remaining.
Schedule they GET ucf At Oklahoma, State baylor At. Utah
that'll be a tough.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
One, Yeah, arizona that's a home game home against B
yu AT, tcu they Avoid Texas tech.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
That could be A Big twelve championship game without playing
each other in the rere.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Season they Avoid houston like they have a schedule where you,
Know arizona's been better than, Expected utah has been. Better,
YEAH uyu is certainly pretty, good but that's a manageable
schedule for The Big twelve the rest of.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Nobody nobody's talking about them pretty.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Crazy so where are you off to this? Week AT
twu lane At? Tulane, okay it's a nice press box Like.
TULANE i know they got the one loss to who's
At ole Miss? Right that's, Yeah, yeah that's.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
It they've they've. Done they've done a pretty nice. JOB
i don't know if they're as good as they've been
a life last two to three. Years they only returned
five total starters on either side of the, Ball so
they got a bunch of just like everybody else in college,
football got a bunch of fresh new. Faces but it'll
be interesting BECAUSE, ecu from WHAT i see on tape
and having done one of their, games it's easy for
(27:16):
everybody to talk About, Memphis South florida And, Tulane, right
NOW ecu is the best team in that league that
nobody's talking.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
About i'll give you one more Because i've got him On.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Friday North, Texas oh, yeah oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So file this name. Away Eric morris is their head.
Coach were not long to speak to, Them, yeah a
couple of hours. Here so this was the guy who
has kind of become a quarterback. Whisperer mm. Hm he
got Cam ward to come To Incarnate word correct the
(27:48):
head coach and part of his recruitment and scouting of Cam, ward,
who by the, way played in a wing t offense
in high, school played in a wing t offense in high.
School goy ended up being the number one. Pick they
were running essentially triple. Option he watched his basketball tape
and he, SAID i watched his basketball tape AND i
(28:09):
saw pretty good. ATHLETE i saw like a couple of
throws that he was making from beyond half, court And
i'm going those are dimes like this guy can. Throw
so he gets cam, Warded Incarnate word takes him with
Takes camward with him To Washington. State then you know
who he recruits To Washington. State he never coached, him
(28:29):
but he Recruits John matteer. Here, correct he Had Chandler
morris At North texas last. Year Now morris has played
for like eleven different. Schools morris is now lighting it
up For. Virginia who's at the, Time, well and lit
it up For North. Texas he threw for four thousand.
Yards and how about? This are you aware of the
story of the kid who he's got at quarterback, now
mess To Makers.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Maker, YES i am very aware.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Of it's unbelievable through mess To maker never started a
single game in high school as a varsity. QUARTERBACK i
know that not. Unbelievable and he's got eleven. Touchdowns, nope
he might Be conference player of the year or at
least he's in the. Running, yeah this guy never started
a single game at quarterback while playing high school. Football
(29:11):
he got more snaps playing defensive back and punter than
he did at quarterback in high.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
School, crazy isn't?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It in that? Wild how does that?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
HAPPEN i know it's.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Crazy and now again like he played at a high
school where the kid who was the starter is now At,
louisville you, know backup quarterback At. LOUISVILLE i think a
four star. Recruit so that stuff. Happens but this kid
goes To North texas last year as a walk on
And Chandler moors is the. Starter he beats out four
or five other guys to be the number two. Qbah
(29:42):
Chandler moors then decides to opt out of the ball,
game hits the. Portal this kid gets to start the ball,
game throws for close to four hundred, yards was put
on scholarship that, week and then they go back into the.
Portal they go get some kid From miami to come
and play. Quarterback who williams Uh. Poffenberger oh, yeah that's.
(30:03):
Right he was the backup last. Year, yeah Cam ward
At miami and they bring him. In he had played At,
albany was like rookie of The year in THE, cia
and mess To maker beats this kid out like it's
it's it's a real Life rudy.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Story it's a great.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Story rudy didn't see the field as much as this.
Kid yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Right and by the, way who they.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Playing they're Playing South.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Florida oh you're gonna get a good.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
One. Yeah quarterback From brown is as good of a
dual threat quarterback as you'll find In.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
America he's a Monster they've done a really good job
in the portal In South florida, too revamping that entire.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Roster so it be a fun weekend and then you
are off to Where next week.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Uh, OH i Have East carolina again Against. Tulsa Ingreen zolchi.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Will be getting to know each other really. WELL i,
know right, well we will talk to you then next, week, alright,
man see it mm hm
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