October 21, 2025 • 29 mins
This week on Weekend Warriors, Anish and Tom react to the Bryce Young injury news, recap the Panthers win over the Jets, preview what the next couple of weeks could look with Andy Dalton, take a look around the college football landscape, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have a video element to the show, and I
hope people can see this. Luke just turned the hat around. Man,
turn that hat on.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'm a little overloaded with information.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well hold on, non people got to see the hat
because like, that's that's a non starter.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Why come on, man, I.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Know it's bad. It's the uniforms.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's the old Tampa Bay Buccaneer adult film star pirate logo.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Doesn't it look like George Hamilton?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Does look like George Hamilton?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You gotta give me one of your hats.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, we got we gotta get, we gotta we gotta.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Hook up Tom with with a Panthers hat. You know
where I wanted to start the show today. I was
thinking about something that relates to what we do in media,
and I think sometimes people miss it. So you've had
this conversation with your wife before, and I don't know
if you go down the same path I do, She'll
tell you about a problem something that's going on, and
(01:06):
I immediately go into fix it mode, problem solver mode. Right, Okay,
you gave me a problem and I immediately go, okay,
how do we fix this? When in reality, sometimes what
they're looking for is listen, don't go into problem solver
mode and just let this play out, digest it, and
(01:26):
have a little bit of patience. And I think of
all the shows that you and I have been on
over the years where you want to say, hey, we
gotta let this play out, or we need to have
some patience, like no, no, no, like we need an absolute
answer should we keep this guy?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes or no? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And sometimes there's no solution, there is no final answer
in that moment. And the reality is you do have
to let it play out, and you have to live
in the gray area and you have to live in
the nuance. But it's entertainment, so we don't and then
people see that and they gravitate toward that. And that's
why you have social media running athletic departments these days,
(02:13):
because it's oh yeah, on two game losing streak, trade
everybody you're you know, lost three in a row, fire
the coach.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean, that's how this stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
The most bottom line business in the world just got worse, right,
How can that happen? Like? How do we get to
this point? And you know, I was actually having this
conversation with our college football live production crew earlier this morning.
This is Tuesday this week. And I really believe that
(02:46):
with the expansion of the college football playoff and this
notion that because of the transfer portal, you can wave
a magic wand and completely fix your entire football team
like overnight, and Indiana makes the playoff, it's likely going
to make it again. A Vanderbilt a high probability they
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could make the playoff. So when you see the Florida
States and the Virginia Techs and the Penn States and all,
they're all sitting there going, well, wait a minute, how
are they making the playoff? And we're goofing around. We're
losing to Stanford, right how? And so it's added this
(03:32):
extra dose of pressure right wrong or indifferent? Fair, unfair?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Like counterpoint though count counterpoint. Yeah, you could make the
case those are still outliers when you really came out
because for years, you know, who is the one team
that was always in contention Alabama?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Right? What did Alabama have stability?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Does Georgia have stability? What does state have? What is
by you have stability? I'm just looking down the rankings.
You're right, right, Like that's the norm when you have
alignment athletic director, president, head coach, quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
When you have that stability, more often than not, you
win over the long haul. When you keep changing.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It, yeah, you might, you might hit lightning in a bottle.
You might have Indiana moment. And again they got the
right coach and now they're going to have stability because
they have them for a long time. Right, But let's
not fool ourselves into thinking quick fix, quick fix, quick
fix is going to lead to long term stability.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Just doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It doesn't happen. But the problem is that the decision
makers and the power brokers don't look at it that way.
They they think it can be done overnight because they've
seen somebody that's not supposed to be very good do it.
And I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying it
adds an element to it that didn't use to exist.
And remember this used to be a sport in college
football where you'd hear coaches talk about it all the time.
(05:00):
If I can get four or five straight recruiting classes
in get our guys quote unquote, and build this thing
for the long term, that's when we that's when we're
gonna start to get really good. You're not allowed to
say that anymore. Like that doesn't apply anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It doesn't you're not allowing I think coaches and coaching
staffs grow and evolve, which they often do. I'm going
to Virginia Tech this weekend, and they made a coaching
change early in the year.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They let.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Right Pride and probably go and Philip Montcoffery took over.
And you know, I just went back in the vault
and I started looking at this. Frank Biemer, and we
may have talked about this on the show before. I
just find this wild. Frank Biemer's I got.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The first five years in Virginia Tech. Look at his.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Records first six seasons, twenty four wins, forty losses, two ties,
sixteen games under five hundred. Take it one step further
in year six. Okay, year six. Of his first six
seasons two wins, eight losses, one tie. Yeah, in the
modern age, we're not even talking about a year seven.
(06:09):
He probably doesn't make it all the way through year six.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Got her.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, never even won more than six games in any
of his first six seasons.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So again looking for.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Evidence, right, like this guy can be the guy has
he had that Peak, No, not yet. Well, after those
first six seasons passed, they kept him. He won ten
games thirteen times from nineteen five to twenty eleven and
has a statue in front of the stadium. He had
to grow into the job, He had to grow into
the role. The school had to grow with him. They
had to realize where their deficiencies were, what they needed,
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what they had to get to be competitive, and then
once they got rolling, they were as consistent a winner
in college football when Frank Beemer was there.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And you know who's building that right now, Brent Key
at Georgia.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Tech one thousand percent and.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Previous to Brent Key. People don't realize it because it
applies to the example you just used with Frank Bieber.
Bobby Ross was eight and twenty four his first three
years at Georgia Tech in that wild and won the
national championship in nineteen ninety. So listen, I totally agree.
I think it's a shame what's happening. And by the way,
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along those lines, why do we even giving these guys buyouts? Now?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
There's no reason to with.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You don't need three or four or five years on
your contract or recruit not in the age of the
transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
No, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Why it's happening. I'll get in trouble for saying it.
I'll tell you why it's happening is because you got
two or three superagents. You basically run college football, and
they've got the athletic directors, they've got the head coaches. No,
it becomes this cabal essentially.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It totally does. And it's so frustrated to watch it, man,
I mean it really is. But that's I guess that's
just the nature of the sport that we're in now.
And the problem is, I don't know if there's a change,
Like I don't know if there's a way to go back,
because until we start getting some rules or some structure
and some guidelines and this and that to create some
(08:11):
stability for a lot of these rosters, it's gonna be
hard to go put the two the pace back in
the tube.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I will say this, as frustrating as it can be
as a fan to maybe follow your team or follow
the sport at large with all the player movement, the
one thing it has done, the one thing the chaos
has created is opportunity. Oh yeah, there are more teams
that legitimately have a chance to win a national championship
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now than maybe ever.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
The competitive balance, because of the transactional nature of the sport,
has created more competitive games. I mean, look, the SEC
last week alone had five one possession games. Five You
look at the ACC right now, Louisville, Miami, Virginia, SMU,
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Georgia Tech. That's five teams right there that could legitimately
win the ACC when if we were had to be
more than one in the team's name Clemson very rarely right.
And so that part of the sport has been awesome
because every week we are seeing one possession competitive fourth
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quarter games.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I think it's gonna be a wild playoff ride, and
it's gonna be I think, just a delightfully bumpy ride
from now until the end of the regular season. We're
a couple of weeks away from the playoff rankings coming out.
You know, that's always telling to see what the committee values.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's gonna be a fun ride.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And I think the NFL, you know, which has sort
of always been trending that way over the years, we
are already in the competitive balance that looks to be
about as wide open as well. And then we'll get
into that here on Weekend Warriors.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Ladies and jack to them the Weekend tom Crows and
z Diving Cats.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
They get touchdown Carolina Weekend Warriors. Well, let's start with
the NFL and the Panthers who won a road game
knocking off the Jets.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And before we get the Debbie.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Down or rose, the Jets throw and seven and nobody
showed up to the Metal lands. Like listen, all that
can be true. And it's kind of one of those
where to bring a societal analogy back into the mix.
You know, like something big in the world happens, then
somebody will post on social media and they make it
(10:46):
about themselves when it has something to.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Do with them, right, Yeah, it could.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It could be like, I don't know, somebody won an
award in Kazakhstan and somebody says, Okay, I'm gonna try
to make this about me. This is one of these
cases where it really isn't about the Jet like it
is about the Panthers. It is about a young team
figuring out a way to win on the road. I
said this on Panther Talk too. You know you look
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for signs where teams are growing. One of the things
I look for is how many different ways can you win?
How many lanes on the highway can.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You go in?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, you can get to your destination. And one thing
we're seeing with Carolina this year finding different ways to win.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That wasn't the case the last few years.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
No, it wasn't. And really, you know, people talk about,
oh was the Jets. It is hard to win like
one time, let alone ten times, right, regardless of who
the opponent is, and especially in that league. You know,
you don't get your Alabama's Litluisiana unrods like that doesn't happen, right,
(11:48):
And so I I don't know what's going to happen
going forward. Obviously with Bryce. You know, when when I
hear that term high ankle sprain versus ankle sprain, those
are two entirely different animals. So I hope they get
him back fast.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, And here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You know, Bryce has been okay so far. He's played
fairly well. Andy Dalton's a capable backup, of course he is.
He's been in the system. Now this is gonna be
what year three with the Panthers. He can make all
the throws. What has he not seeing the right checks?
He can get to the right offense. You give him
a full week of practice. Saw what he did against
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Vegas last year. Now you know, you get six seven
weeks of Andy Dalton. Okay, maybe then he might get exposed.
But if this is Andy Dalton for a two to
four week stretch, I don't think it's any reason to
sound the alarm belt.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
To be honest with you, I don't either.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I don't either. I mean, it would be one thing
going to a rookie or going to a second year guy.
You're you're going to a guy that's had everything thrown
at him over the course of a very long and
I would argue distinguished career. Yep, right, a lot of
people don't play that long. And there's a reason why
he keeps getting he signed for what you just mentioned.
(13:03):
If you had to go a stretch, do you want
the rookie or the second year guy or do you
want an Andy Dalton?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And again, you know, the upside at age thirty seven
may not be what it was early in his career,
but you're not asking Andy Dalton to be superman. And
look around the league. Man, it's a good time to
be an older quarterback. Joe Fleco and Aaron Rodgers. That
was quite the show.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
That was great.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
They might and now Andy Dalton likely will have a chance.
Panthers are, you know, still playing at coy. They're saying
day to day they want to try to get Bryce
out there. I think we'll see when the injury report
comes out Wednesday and Thursday and Friday this week. But yeah,
high ankle sprain. You know, I go right to Ceedee
Lamb who had that injury early this season, and you
know he missed a multiple games.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So they just linger. They're so hard to heal.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, and you know Bryce again relies on that mobility. Yeah,
move in the pocket, creates for himself the run game
a little bit so worth monitoring. I don't think it
is an alarm bell, five alarm bell, let's sound the
panic here. I think they can be okay if it's
Andy Dalton for.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
A few weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Well, in defense travels, well.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That's the amazing thing.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
And this was a historically bad defense last year. Yeah,
they're now a top ten defense.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I know.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's great and that's something you can fall back on,
right like when things weren't going well a year ago,
Like you couldn't lean on that, you couldn't rely on
that because that gets you into the second half of games, That.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Gets you into the second half of the season. I mean,
they're a game out of first place with I guess
your Tampa Bay Buccaneers losing to the Detroit Lions on
Monday night.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Derek Brown. We watched this.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Guy in college at Auburn and he was just an animal,
an animal, bona fide top ten pick. And you know,
even when he was drafted, I remember there were people saying,
like taking Derek Brown, I mean, people wanted Isaiah Simmons,
and you know that really hasn't worked that well. Derek
Brown is starting to make a case. I mean he
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had two sacks and three passes batted down to go
on the tackles. Yeah, starting to make a case that
he is in the conversation for best interior d linemen
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
He's that good.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Doesn't get the comission because the Panthers haven't been that
good the last few years. But when he's healthy and
he's on the field, and it may maybe took him
a game or two, I mean the guy just rex games.
He recks offensive linemen, He tosses guys like rag dolls,
controlling the line of scrimmage. It's a big reason this
run defense has gone through a metamorphosis from last year
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to this year because last year Derek Brown only played
in one game.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Exactly, and look at the impact. It hasn't all on
everybody else, because now you're so worried about him as
an imposing offense that it creates opportunities for others.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Explain to me what that's like, because we saw that
in LA obviously when Aaron Donald was there.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
We've seen it in other places.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You know, when you have Panthers had Chris Jenkins, or
you've got a Hainesworth. You got that big guy in
the middle of the defense, and yeah, he plays the
end position in the three four, so not exactly, yeah,
that nose tackle position. But when you can blow the
play up from the interior, what's the domino effect?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It allows your linebackers to play unblocked because you're always
having to probably double him more often than not, so
it creates other opportunities. And you know that's why if
you're in the three four and I know he's playing
in the five technique role, but the nose, that center
guy that's right over the that's rate playing the zero technique.
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Those those three have to keep everybody off of the
guys behind them, right, And so when that happens and
you're having to account for a guy for one guy
with two, you're freeing up somebody somewhere else. But I
also think the passion of the play, the performance is
something that puts everybody else on the defense on notice
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with their effort and their production because it sends a standard,
a niche.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
And that's off the field too.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
What I really like about Derek Brown was after they
beat Atlanta thirty to nothing, we talked to him after
the game on the postgame show and he kind of
dismissed it, like, yeah, it's one game, Like we got
to go do this again. Yeah I'm not gonna pop champagne. Yeah,
nice win, but one game. This is who we feel
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we can be almost defiant, right, And he was right
because the week after they stubbed their toe against New England,
right off this three game win streak, and you know,
he was asked about, you know, the way the team
was playing. He's like, I don't want to hear any
of this victory mounday stuff. That's kind of what you
want from your leader, your locker room leader, your tone setter,
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your clubhouse guy.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, Like we won great, Like we expect to win,
Like we're not gonna go crazy. We beat the Jets,
and beat the Cowboys, we beat the Dolphins. Now we
tackle Buffalo, and this is as big a regular season
game as the Panthers have had in quite a few years.
And if you go out, I really look at these
two games. If you go out, you beat either Buffalo
or Green Bay if you get one of the next two,
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and green Bay's on the road, But if you get
one of the next two, it just seems to change
the calculus for the entire season in terms of expectations.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, and I think I think the way Derek Brown
handles that publicly is what he's essentially saying is you
all can doubt us, you all can think that this
is anomaly, but this is what we actually believe. We are. Yeah, right,
And so it's not our job to come down to you.
It's your job to come in and support us, because
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we are playing at a high level. But the the
the mindset of not wondering if you can play well
or wondering if you can win, versus knowing you're gonna
play well and knowing you can win those are That's
the difference in many, many wins and losses.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
The Panthers have the best fourth quarter scoring differential of
any team in the league plus thirty five. You hear
Dave Canalis say finish, finish right.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Buying into it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
They're learning how to finish games. And it's nice to
see a young core guys who've been through it, a
Derek Brown, a J. C.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Horn.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
There's others, Tommy Trumble. These guys are now on the
other end of it where they expect to win these
games late. And Yeah, the other part which has been
really really encouraging is you're starting to see some guys emerge.
We know the running back situation with Doubdell and Chewba
Hubber and I hate to call it a.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Situation, it's a good situation. Yeah, great, two really good ones. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Mitchell Evans, this draft class, I mean, fifth round pick
Notre Dame, keeps making plays every week. Trevor etn At
a couple of big returns, one on a kick, one
on a punt, ran for a big first down. You know,
a couple of weeks ago, late in the game when
Rico Dawdle was cramping up, like that's your fourth round pick.
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They're getting production from guys like Nick Gorton had a
sack and a half Prince of human Miellen, you know,
tweaked his back, kept on coming back in the game
and tried to push it. Like, these are young guys.
This is your draft class. I think tedoll McMillan. We
know he's gonna be a pretty good player. Yeah, But
to see Xavier Lea get get unlocked. Nine catches ninety
two yards a career high on eleven targets. This was
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a guy in Week two had one catch for minus
two yards on eight targets and became a league wide punchline.
So yeah, there's a young core in place, and you
give Dan Morgan and you give Brent Tillis in the
front office their flowers. This draft class paying huge, huge dividend.
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Are they a perfect team yet?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Do they have a waste to go? Are there certain
areas where they can approve? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Absolutely right, pass rush could be more consistent. There's all
those things there. But I made the analogy with Dave
Canalis yesterday. I said, it's like when you have a
jigsaw puzzle and now the puzzle you're putting together is
starting to resemble the cover of the box.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Box. Yeah right, that's a great way. Well, you are
very eloquent, very eloquent.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I went to like a couple of classes at Syracuse
College Football this weekend. Where are you off to?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I have Thursday night sun Belt fun Belt. Oh, but
both of the teams are one and six. Oh you
Jorgia State in South Alabama.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I'm gonna pose this to you because we've both been there. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
As a broadcaster, you get one in six against one
and six. How do you sell that game?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
You find a couple of star players that you try
to make people care about.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Running back at South Alabama Kenfrill Bullock, the transfer from
Old Miss really good. The corner for South Alabama is
going to be an NFL draft choice. He's had two
or three picks in the last three weeks. Exciting new
quarterback for Georgia State. They went away from TJ. Finley,
who's been playing football for what ten years now?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Five schools. This is his fifth school. So they go
away from him and they go to Cam Brown who
was at West Georgia last year. So he moves up
from FCS to Group of five and he actually played
really really well against Georgia Southern and loss last week.
So I think there's some names and some high profile
players that will be exciting to watch. You know, what
I've often found is when you have two teams like that,
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the game's usually damn good because they're so evenly matched.
You end up having a really good game.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
You have a pretty good game. Yeah, I've got call
at Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I had call at North Carolina last Friday at the
end of that game. And you talk about just gut
punch ways to lose a game, they do it every week.
He basically fumbles on the half yard line with a
chance to take the lead, get their first acc win.
And I think they turned the volume down a little
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bit because they were better defensively, but offensively, man, they've
got a long ways to go.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
They just a lack of playmakers.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
There's not one guy that you can get the ball
to and say, hey, go do something.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
We're going to try to get a t in space
like that guy's missing the quarterback play. I think at
best has been average.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
That's probably being generous.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, generous at best, right, I will say this when
you watch JKS Jaron kave Sunga pole Telly the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yep, if they can keep it.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And Ron Rivera came on the air with us for
Panthers coach, he's the GM for Calviny.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
He basically said, retaining that guy is off season priority
number one.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
If they can find a way to keep him.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I'm telling you you could put a team around that guy.
Oh two years. In two years. This is not hyperbole.
There were some scouts there we were talking to. They
feel this is a guy who might be our top five,
top ten, maybe even a number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I totally agree with that. The only thing he really
doesn't have is elite level athleticism, the ability to really
move and create with his legs. But his ability to
change arm angles to suit the throw is the best
I've seen in college football in years.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
His wide receivers let him down. I mean they had
six to seven drop passes. Yeah, that's been an issue
all season for them. But the one thing that we noticed,
and Andre Ware, who like you, played quarterback, picked up
on this right away. He said, the one thing that
he does as a left handed quarterback, he is able
to roll right and not lose anything on his throw
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while throwing on the move as a lefty quarterback right
rolling away from his strong side where he would want
to throw. So he's rolling right, and he said his
ability to turn his hips to set his feet and
do it so quickly and then find zip on the throw.
And so he's able to make the off platform throws
when he does that. But he's also able to be accurate,
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which you know, when you have a lefty quarterback rolling
to his right, I mean you're asking for a lot
and usually the numbers say the completion percentage tanks right.
Teams will try to get to to flushy out that
way right. Let's see if you can do something wrong. Now, yeah,
he can do it, which is which is wild.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
You know, it's interesting going back to having Ron Rivera
on with you guys and talking about priority number one.
You know that Cal team last year because they don't
have any money, got pillaged in this transfer report.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
It started with the quarterback, I mean the guys at Indiana,
Fernando Meno.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
He's going to be a top five pick right, so
then and then they lost they lost nine players on
offense last year to the transfer portal that recorded at
least one carry. And the thing is justin Wilcox does
a great job of identifying and developing talent, right, and
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the rest of college football knows that they don't have
a lot of money, so they go in and pillage
their roster on the cheap, right.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
That is the nature of college football right now. That's
that's it in a nutshell. I mean, you know, you
get again South Alabama Georgia's state on Thursday night. There's
power coaches, power conference coaches watching that game and making notes, Oh,
this running back looks pretty good. Put him down, let's
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try piligim the offseason. You know what else is starting
to happen, And we've noticed this, especially with some of
the smaller schools. Coaches now are afraid to play their
backups in late game blowout situations. Yeah, they want they
don't want you to be posing them in a spring game.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
How about this. I know some coaches too that don't
want to put their guys on an All conference or
an All American team for that very reason.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I mean, holy smokes, because that's what people are doing
at the at the at the FBS level, They're going
to all of the All conference teams and the All
American teams at the SCS level, and they're just studying
those tapes of those guys. See if they're an upgrade.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Why not do this?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
If you're a conference, right, you have a pool of
money if one of your guys makes All Conference and
you can stagger the monetary dispersion by first team, second
team honorable mention and yeah, you get some funding from
the conference pool to keep that guy on your roster.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, and keep him in the conference.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Makes sense for the league to want that player back
in the league the next year.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I love it. That's a great idea. Man, we should
make you the zar of college football.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
You know what happened to the czar? Though?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
They get hurted?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I don't know why people keep saying that, like to
make him the bizarre of this and go, when has
it ever ended well.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
For a czar? I think it's because I listened to this.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I listened to the song, you know, the Rolling Stone song.
You know they they got the tzar and his minister's
that's it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Cool word, It is a cool word. What he spelled
tierra z c z a R. I thought it was
t s a R.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
No, No, it's c z a R.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
We're gonna we're gonna have to find uh common ground
on that one. All right, Uh do this again next week.
We have the Halloween episode next week. That'll be fun, nice,
We have a video element to the show, and I
hope people can see this. Luke just turned the hat around. Man,
turn that hat on.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'm a little overloaded with information.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well hold on, non people got to see the hat
because like, that's that's a non starter.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Why come on, man, I.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Know it's bad. It's the uniforms.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's the old Tampa Bay Buccaneer adult film star pirate logo.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Doesn't it look like George Hamilton?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Does look like George Hamilton?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You gotta give me one of your hats.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, we got we gotta get, we gotta we gotta.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Hook up Tom with with a Panthers hat. You know
where I wanted to start the show today. I was
thinking about something that relates to what we do in media,
and I think sometimes people miss it. So you've had
this conversation with your wife before, and I don't know
if you go down the same path I do, She'll
tell you about a problem something that's going on, and
(01:06):
I immediately go into fix it mode, problem solver mode. Right, Okay,
you gave me a problem and I immediately go, okay,
how do we fix this? When in reality, sometimes what
they're looking for is listen, don't go into problem solver
mode and just let this play out, digest it, and
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have a little bit of patience. And I think of
all the shows that you and I have been on
over the years where you want to say, hey, we
gotta let this play out, or we need to have
some patience, like no, no, no, like we need an absolute
answer should we keep this guy?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes or no? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And sometimes there's no solution, there is no final answer
in that moment. And the reality is you do have
to let it play out, and you have to live
in the gray area and you have to live in
the nuance. But it's entertainment, so we don't and then
people see that and they gravitate toward that. And that's
why you have social media running athletic departments these days,
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because it's oh yeah, on two game losing streak, trade
everybody you're you know, lost three in a row, fire
the coach.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean, that's how this stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
The most bottom line business in the world just got worse, right,
How can that happen? Like? How do we get to
this point? And you know, I was actually having this
conversation with our college football live production crew earlier this morning.
This is Tuesday this week. And I really believe that
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with the expansion of the college football playoff and this
notion that because of the transfer portal, you can wave
a magic wand and completely fix your entire football team
like overnight, and Indiana makes the playoff, it's likely going
to make it again. A Vanderbilt a high probability they
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could make the playoff. So when you see the Florida
States and the Virginia Techs and the Penn States and all,
they're all sitting there going, well, wait a minute, how
are they making the playoff? And we're goofing around. We're
losing to Stanford, right how? And so it's added this
(03:32):
extra dose of pressure right wrong or indifferent? Fair, unfair?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Like counterpoint though count counterpoint. Yeah, you could make the
case those are still outliers when you really came out
because for years, you know, who is the one team
that was always in contention Alabama?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Right? What did Alabama have stability?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Does Georgia have stability? What does state have? What is
by you have stability? I'm just looking down the rankings.
You're right, right, Like that's the norm when you have
alignment athletic director, president, head coach, quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
When you have that stability, more often than not, you
win over the long haul. When you keep changing.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It, yeah, you might, you might hit lightning in a bottle.
You might have Indiana moment. And again they got the
right coach and now they're going to have stability because
they have them for a long time. Right, But let's
not fool ourselves into thinking quick fix, quick fix, quick
fix is going to lead to long term stability.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Just doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It doesn't happen. But the problem is that the decision
makers and the power brokers don't look at it that way.
They they think it can be done overnight because they've
seen somebody that's not supposed to be very good do it.
And I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying it
adds an element to it that didn't use to exist.
And remember this used to be a sport in college
football where you'd hear coaches talk about it all the time.
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If I can get four or five straight recruiting classes
in get our guys quote unquote, and build this thing
for the long term, that's when we that's when we're
gonna start to get really good. You're not allowed to
say that anymore. Like that doesn't apply anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It doesn't you're not allowing I think coaches and coaching
staffs grow and evolve, which they often do. I'm going
to Virginia Tech this weekend, and they made a coaching
change early in the year.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They let.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Right Pride and probably go and Philip Montcoffery took over.
And you know, I just went back in the vault
and I started looking at this. Frank Biemer, and we
may have talked about this on the show before. I
just find this wild. Frank Biemer's I got.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The first five years in Virginia Tech. Look at his.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Records first six seasons, twenty four wins, forty losses, two ties,
sixteen games under five hundred. Take it one step further
in year six. Okay, year six. Of his first six
seasons two wins, eight losses, one tie. Yeah, in the
modern age, we're not even talking about a year seven.
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He probably doesn't make it all the way through year six.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Got her.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, never even won more than six games in any
of his first six seasons.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So again looking for.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Evidence, right, like this guy can be the guy has
he had that Peak, No, not yet. Well, after those
first six seasons passed, they kept him. He won ten
games thirteen times from nineteen five to twenty eleven and
has a statue in front of the stadium. He had
to grow into the job, He had to grow into
the role. The school had to grow with him. They
had to realize where their deficiencies were, what they needed,
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what they had to get to be competitive, and then
once they got rolling, they were as consistent a winner
in college football when Frank Beemer was there.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And you know who's building that right now, Brent Key
at Georgia.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Tech one thousand percent and.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Previous to Brent Key. People don't realize it because it
applies to the example you just used with Frank Bieber.
Bobby Ross was eight and twenty four his first three
years at Georgia Tech in that wild and won the
national championship in nineteen ninety. So listen, I totally agree.
I think it's a shame what's happening. And by the way,
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along those lines, why do we even giving these guys buyouts? Now?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
There's no reason to with.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You don't need three or four or five years on
your contract or recruit not in the age of the
transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
No, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Why it's happening. I'll get in trouble for saying it.
I'll tell you why it's happening is because you got
two or three superagents. You basically run college football, and
they've got the athletic directors, they've got the head coaches. No,
it becomes this cabal essentially.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It totally does. And it's so frustrated to watch it, man,
I mean it really is. But that's I guess that's
just the nature of the sport that we're in now.
And the problem is, I don't know if there's a change,
Like I don't know if there's a way to go back,
because until we start getting some rules or some structure
and some guidelines and this and that to create some
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stability for a lot of these rosters, it's gonna be
hard to go put the two the pace back in
the tube.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I will say this, as frustrating as it can be
as a fan to maybe follow your team or follow
the sport at large with all the player movement, the
one thing it has done, the one thing the chaos
has created is opportunity. Oh yeah, there are more teams
that legitimately have a chance to win a national championship
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now than maybe ever.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
The competitive balance, because of the transactional nature of the sport,
has created more competitive games. I mean, look, the SEC
last week alone had five one possession games. Five You
look at the ACC right now, Louisville, Miami, Virginia, SMU,
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Georgia Tech. That's five teams right there that could legitimately
win the ACC when if we were had to be
more than one in the team's name Clemson very rarely right.
And so that part of the sport has been awesome
because every week we are seeing one possession competitive fourth
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quarter games.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I think it's gonna be a wild playoff ride, and
it's gonna be I think, just a delightfully bumpy ride
from now until the end of the regular season. We're
a couple of weeks away from the playoff rankings coming out.
You know, that's always telling to see what the committee values.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's gonna be a fun ride.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And I think the NFL, you know, which has sort
of always been trending that way over the years, we
are already in the competitive balance that looks to be
about as wide open as well. And then we'll get
into that here on Weekend Warriors.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Ladies and jack to them the Weekend tom Crows and
z Diving Cats.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
They get touchdown Carolina Weekend Warriors. Well, let's start with
the NFL and the Panthers who won a road game
knocking off the Jets.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And before we get the Debbie.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Down or rose, the Jets throw and seven and nobody
showed up to the Metal lands. Like listen, all that
can be true. And it's kind of one of those
where to bring a societal analogy back into the mix.
You know, like something big in the world happens, then
somebody will post on social media and they make it
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about themselves when it has something to.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Do with them, right, Yeah, it could.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It could be like, I don't know, somebody won an
award in Kazakhstan and somebody says, Okay, I'm gonna try
to make this about me. This is one of these
cases where it really isn't about the Jet like it
is about the Panthers. It is about a young team
figuring out a way to win on the road. I
said this on Panther Talk too. You know you look
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for signs where teams are growing. One of the things
I look for is how many different ways can you win?
How many lanes on the highway can.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You go in?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, you can get to your destination. And one thing
we're seeing with Carolina this year finding different ways to win.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That wasn't the case the last few years.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
No, it wasn't. And really, you know, people talk about,
oh was the Jets. It is hard to win like
one time, let alone ten times, right, regardless of who
the opponent is, and especially in that league. You know,
you don't get your Alabama's Litluisiana unrods like that doesn't happen, right,
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And so I I don't know what's going to happen
going forward. Obviously with Bryce. You know, when when I
hear that term high ankle sprain versus ankle sprain, those
are two entirely different animals. So I hope they get
him back fast.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, And here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You know, Bryce has been okay so far. He's played
fairly well. Andy Dalton's a capable backup, of course he is.
He's been in the system. Now this is gonna be
what year three with the Panthers. He can make all
the throws. What has he not seeing the right checks?
He can get to the right offense. You give him
a full week of practice. Saw what he did against
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Vegas last year. Now you know, you get six seven
weeks of Andy Dalton. Okay, maybe then he might get exposed.
But if this is Andy Dalton for a two to
four week stretch, I don't think it's any reason to
sound the alarm belt.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
To be honest with you, I don't either.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I don't either. I mean, it would be one thing
going to a rookie or going to a second year guy.
You're you're going to a guy that's had everything thrown
at him over the course of a very long and
I would argue distinguished career. Yep, right, a lot of
people don't play that long. And there's a reason why
he keeps getting he signed for what you just mentioned.
(13:03):
If you had to go a stretch, do you want
the rookie or the second year guy or do you
want an Andy Dalton?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And again, you know, the upside at age thirty seven
may not be what it was early in his career,
but you're not asking Andy Dalton to be superman. And
look around the league. Man, it's a good time to
be an older quarterback. Joe Fleco and Aaron Rodgers. That
was quite the show.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
That was great.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
They might and now Andy Dalton likely will have a chance.
Panthers are, you know, still playing at coy. They're saying
day to day they want to try to get Bryce
out there. I think we'll see when the injury report
comes out Wednesday and Thursday and Friday this week. But yeah,
high ankle sprain. You know, I go right to Ceedee
Lamb who had that injury early this season, and you
know he missed a multiple games.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So they just linger. They're so hard to heal.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, and you know Bryce again relies on that mobility. Yeah,
move in the pocket, creates for himself the run game
a little bit so worth monitoring. I don't think it
is an alarm bell, five alarm bell, let's sound the
panic here. I think they can be okay if it's
Andy Dalton for.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
A few weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Well, in defense travels, well.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That's the amazing thing.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
And this was a historically bad defense last year. Yeah,
they're now a top ten defense.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I know.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's great and that's something you can fall back on,
right like when things weren't going well a year ago,
Like you couldn't lean on that, you couldn't rely on
that because that gets you into the second half of games, That.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Gets you into the second half of the season. I mean,
they're a game out of first place with I guess
your Tampa Bay Buccaneers losing to the Detroit Lions on
Monday night.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Derek Brown. We watched this.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Guy in college at Auburn and he was just an animal,
an animal, bona fide top ten pick. And you know,
even when he was drafted, I remember there were people saying,
like taking Derek Brown, I mean, people wanted Isaiah Simmons,
and you know that really hasn't worked that well. Derek
Brown is starting to make a case. I mean he
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had two sacks and three passes batted down to go
on the tackles. Yeah, starting to make a case that
he is in the conversation for best interior d linemen
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
He's that good.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Doesn't get the comission because the Panthers haven't been that
good the last few years. But when he's healthy and
he's on the field, and it may maybe took him
a game or two, I mean the guy just rex games.
He recks offensive linemen, He tosses guys like rag dolls,
controlling the line of scrimmage. It's a big reason this
run defense has gone through a metamorphosis from last year
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to this year because last year Derek Brown only played
in one game.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Exactly, and look at the impact. It hasn't all on
everybody else, because now you're so worried about him as
an imposing offense that it creates opportunities for others.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Explain to me what that's like, because we saw that
in LA obviously when Aaron Donald was there.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
We've seen it in other places.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You know, when you have Panthers had Chris Jenkins, or
you've got a Hainesworth. You got that big guy in
the middle of the defense, and yeah, he plays the
end position in the three four, so not exactly, yeah,
that nose tackle position. But when you can blow the
play up from the interior, what's the domino effect?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It allows your linebackers to play unblocked because you're always
having to probably double him more often than not, so
it creates other opportunities. And you know that's why if
you're in the three four and I know he's playing
in the five technique role, but the nose, that center
guy that's right over the that's rate playing the zero technique.
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Those those three have to keep everybody off of the
guys behind them, right, And so when that happens and
you're having to account for a guy for one guy
with two, you're freeing up somebody somewhere else. But I
also think the passion of the play, the performance is
something that puts everybody else on the defense on notice
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with their effort and their production because it sends a standard,
a niche.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
And that's off the field too.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
What I really like about Derek Brown was after they
beat Atlanta thirty to nothing, we talked to him after
the game on the postgame show and he kind of
dismissed it, like, yeah, it's one game, Like we got
to go do this again. Yeah I'm not gonna pop champagne. Yeah,
nice win, but one game. This is who we feel
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we can be almost defiant, right, And he was right
because the week after they stubbed their toe against New England,
right off this three game win streak, and you know,
he was asked about, you know, the way the team
was playing. He's like, I don't want to hear any
of this victory mounday stuff. That's kind of what you
want from your leader, your locker room leader, your tone setter,
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your clubhouse guy.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, Like we won great, Like we expect to win,
Like we're not gonna go crazy. We beat the Jets,
and beat the Cowboys, we beat the Dolphins. Now we
tackle Buffalo, and this is as big a regular season
game as the Panthers have had in quite a few years.
And if you go out, I really look at these
two games. If you go out, you beat either Buffalo
or Green Bay if you get one of the next two,
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and green Bay's on the road, But if you get
one of the next two, it just seems to change
the calculus for the entire season in terms of expectations.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, and I think I think the way Derek Brown
handles that publicly is what he's essentially saying is you
all can doubt us, you all can think that this
is anomaly, but this is what we actually believe. We are. Yeah, right,
And so it's not our job to come down to you.
It's your job to come in and support us, because
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we are playing at a high level. But the the
the mindset of not wondering if you can play well
or wondering if you can win, versus knowing you're gonna
play well and knowing you can win those are That's
the difference in many, many wins and losses.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
The Panthers have the best fourth quarter scoring differential of
any team in the league plus thirty five. You hear
Dave Canalis say finish, finish right.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Buying into it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
They're learning how to finish games. And it's nice to
see a young core guys who've been through it, a
Derek Brown, a J. C.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Horn.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
There's others, Tommy Trumble. These guys are now on the
other end of it where they expect to win these
games late. And Yeah, the other part which has been
really really encouraging is you're starting to see some guys emerge.
We know the running back situation with Doubdell and Chewba
Hubber and I hate to call it a.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Situation, it's a good situation. Yeah, great, two really good ones. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Mitchell Evans, this draft class, I mean, fifth round pick
Notre Dame, keeps making plays every week. Trevor etn At
a couple of big returns, one on a kick, one
on a punt, ran for a big first down. You know,
a couple of weeks ago, late in the game when
Rico Dawdle was cramping up, like that's your fourth round pick.
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They're getting production from guys like Nick Gorton had a
sack and a half Prince of human Miellen, you know,
tweaked his back, kept on coming back in the game
and tried to push it. Like, these are young guys.
This is your draft class. I think tedoll McMillan. We
know he's gonna be a pretty good player. Yeah, But
to see Xavier Lea get get unlocked. Nine catches ninety
two yards a career high on eleven targets. This was
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a guy in Week two had one catch for minus
two yards on eight targets and became a league wide punchline.
So yeah, there's a young core in place, and you
give Dan Morgan and you give Brent Tillis in the
front office their flowers. This draft class paying huge, huge dividend.
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Are they a perfect team yet?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Do they have a waste to go? Are there certain
areas where they can approve? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Absolutely right, pass rush could be more consistent. There's all
those things there. But I made the analogy with Dave
Canalis yesterday. I said, it's like when you have a
jigsaw puzzle and now the puzzle you're putting together is
starting to resemble the cover of the box.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Box. Yeah right, that's a great way. Well, you are
very eloquent, very eloquent.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I went to like a couple of classes at Syracuse
College Football this weekend. Where are you off to?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I have Thursday night sun Belt fun Belt. Oh, but
both of the teams are one and six. Oh you
Jorgia State in South Alabama.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I'm gonna pose this to you because we've both been there. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
As a broadcaster, you get one in six against one
and six. How do you sell that game?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
You find a couple of star players that you try
to make people care about.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Running back at South Alabama Kenfrill Bullock, the transfer from
Old Miss really good. The corner for South Alabama is
going to be an NFL draft choice. He's had two
or three picks in the last three weeks. Exciting new
quarterback for Georgia State. They went away from TJ. Finley,
who's been playing football for what ten years now?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Five schools. This is his fifth school. So they go
away from him and they go to Cam Brown who
was at West Georgia last year. So he moves up
from FCS to Group of five and he actually played
really really well against Georgia Southern and loss last week.
So I think there's some names and some high profile
players that will be exciting to watch. You know, what
I've often found is when you have two teams like that,
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the game's usually damn good because they're so evenly matched.
You end up having a really good game.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
You have a pretty good game. Yeah, I've got call
at Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I had call at North Carolina last Friday at the
end of that game. And you talk about just gut
punch ways to lose a game, they do it every week.
He basically fumbles on the half yard line with a
chance to take the lead, get their first acc win.
And I think they turned the volume down a little
(23:24):
bit because they were better defensively, but offensively, man, they've
got a long ways to go.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
They just a lack of playmakers.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
There's not one guy that you can get the ball
to and say, hey, go do something.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
We're going to try to get a t in space
like that guy's missing the quarterback play. I think at
best has been average.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
That's probably being generous.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, generous at best, right, I will say this when
you watch JKS Jaron kave Sunga pole Telly the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yep, if they can keep it.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And Ron Rivera came on the air with us for
Panthers coach, he's the GM for Calviny.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
He basically said, retaining that guy is off season priority
number one.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
If they can find a way to keep him.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I'm telling you you could put a team around that guy.
Oh two years. In two years. This is not hyperbole.
There were some scouts there we were talking to. They
feel this is a guy who might be our top five,
top ten, maybe even a number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I totally agree with that. The only thing he really
doesn't have is elite level athleticism, the ability to really
move and create with his legs. But his ability to
change arm angles to suit the throw is the best
I've seen in college football in years.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
His wide receivers let him down. I mean they had
six to seven drop passes. Yeah, that's been an issue
all season for them. But the one thing that we noticed,
and Andre Ware, who like you, played quarterback, picked up
on this right away. He said, the one thing that
he does as a left handed quarterback, he is able
to roll right and not lose anything on his throw
(25:10):
while throwing on the move as a lefty quarterback right
rolling away from his strong side where he would want
to throw. So he's rolling right, and he said his
ability to turn his hips to set his feet and
do it so quickly and then find zip on the throw.
And so he's able to make the off platform throws
when he does that. But he's also able to be accurate,
(25:32):
which you know, when you have a lefty quarterback rolling
to his right, I mean you're asking for a lot
and usually the numbers say the completion percentage tanks right.
Teams will try to get to to flushy out that
way right. Let's see if you can do something wrong. Now, yeah,
he can do it, which is which is wild.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
You know, it's interesting going back to having Ron Rivera
on with you guys and talking about priority number one.
You know that Cal team last year because they don't
have any money, got pillaged in this transfer report.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
It started with the quarterback, I mean the guys at Indiana,
Fernando Meno.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
He's going to be a top five pick right, so
then and then they lost they lost nine players on
offense last year to the transfer portal that recorded at
least one carry. And the thing is justin Wilcox does
a great job of identifying and developing talent, right, and
(26:26):
the rest of college football knows that they don't have
a lot of money, so they go in and pillage
their roster on the cheap, right.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
That is the nature of college football right now. That's
that's it in a nutshell. I mean, you know, you
get again South Alabama Georgia's state on Thursday night. There's
power coaches, power conference coaches watching that game and making notes, Oh,
this running back looks pretty good. Put him down, let's
(26:59):
try piligim the offseason. You know what else is starting
to happen, And we've noticed this, especially with some of
the smaller schools. Coaches now are afraid to play their
backups in late game blowout situations. Yeah, they want they
don't want you to be posing them in a spring game.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
How about this. I know some coaches too that don't
want to put their guys on an All conference or
an All American team for that very reason.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I mean, holy smokes, because that's what people are doing
at the at the at the FBS level, They're going
to all of the All conference teams and the All
American teams at the SCS level, and they're just studying
those tapes of those guys. See if they're an upgrade.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Why not do this?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
If you're a conference, right, you have a pool of
money if one of your guys makes All Conference and
you can stagger the monetary dispersion by first team, second
team honorable mention and yeah, you get some funding from
the conference pool to keep that guy on your roster.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, and keep him in the conference.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Makes sense for the league to want that player back
in the league the next year.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I love it. That's a great idea. Man, we should
make you the zar of college football.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
You know what happened to the czar? Though?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
They get hurted?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I don't know why people keep saying that, like to
make him the bizarre of this and go, when has
it ever ended well.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
For a czar? I think it's because I listened to this.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I listened to the song, you know, the Rolling Stone song.
You know they they got the tzar and his minister's
that's it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Cool word, It is a cool word. What he spelled
tierra z c z a R. I thought it was
t s a R.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
No, No, it's c z a R.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
We're gonna we're gonna have to find uh common ground
on that one. All right, Uh do this again next week.
We have the Halloween episode next week. That'll be fun, nice,
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