October 21, 2024 • 32 mins
This week on Weekend Warriors, Anish and Tom breakdown the Heisman Trophy race, discuss the modern college football coach, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
An A Shroff and Tom Logan Bill back here on
another episode of Weekend Warriors, and we still have not
been canceled. How about that we're surviving in twenty twenty four,
surviving You jealous by the way, seventh straight heater on
Friday night?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Am I jealousy? You not read the texts?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
You Every Saturday morning with smoke coming out of my
ears and bloodshot eyes literally going dude every Friday is
a flat out banger, bro.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I mean it's unbelievable. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
And this weekend we were in a beautiful provo Utah
BYU beat Oklahoma State in a thriller. Their quarterback, Jake Rhetzlaff,
showed some hutzpah yeh. He's the self proclaimed by Jew
and I'm not that's it. I'm not saying that to
be offensive or offend anybody. He embraces that. They have
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shirts at the stadium. People have shirts that say by Jew.
For those that don't know, Rehetzloff is the first Jewish
quarterback in the history of BYU football. Of course, BYU's
got the affiliation with the LDS Church. It is, it's
wild and they Logan Bill have become one of the
cool stories in college football along with Army and Navy.
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And I wanted to begin the show here because a
conversation that we had with Oklahoma State head coach Mike Gundy,
and he was pretty frank about it. He said, in
this age when student athletes are chasing money, and we
use nil as kind of this catch all, right, but
nil is different than what's happening where guys are getting paid.
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There's collectives and you go to this school and they'll
pay you this much. Nil is your ability to make
money off of your name, image and likeness. But as
we're finding out, money's coming in from other places. And
he said, there's some programs out there where you're not
having the roster turnover. You're in year out like you
are at other places. And it's happening at small schools,
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at big schools. It's happening everywhere. But he pointed to BYU,
where you and I have both covered this program. You're
recruiting a certain kind of kid, right, faith based student,
usually an LDS kid, somebody who probably will serve a
mission for a couple of years stateside or abroad. You
kind of know what you're signing up for when you
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go to BYU in the same way. If you go
to a service academy and here we are late October.
BYU is undefeated, Army and Navy are undefeated. And I
don't know if this is isolated because in an age
where coaches are so challenged to preserve and keep their
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culture intact, if you're one of these service academies, if
you're a school like BYU, where you have some coaching continuity,
you have a culture in place. You're recruiting a certain
type of kid who doesn't really care about yaw, the
bells and whistles of how much money am I going
to get? You're going there for another reason, and football
may not be the be all, end all, but it
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allows you to really build a program. And there's not
a lot of coaches around the country who can do
that anymore. And I'm not saying it evens the playing
field entirely, because talent still matters at the end, sure,
but it does shift the playing field upward for those
schools which usually had to work against the grain.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, and those are what I would now label is
headache free jobs. You're right if you want to recruit, develop, coach, graduate, repeat, recruit, develop, coach, graduate, repeat,
and not have to worry about any of those other
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auxiliary items that are now at the forefront of major
college football. You talk about Army, you talk about Navy,
obviously air Force. I just got done broadcasting Stanford, who
is under second year head coach Troy Taylor. They are
in a scenario where they've got a massive, massive, massive endowment.
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If they wanted to open it up, if they wanted
to be a major player nationally, they have the funds
to do whatever they want to do. However, they're Stanford.
They're not going to do that. So they don't have
the ability through name, image and likeness. They don't have
the ability through the transfer portal, to wave a magic
wand and transform their roster. And I came away from
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the game and I was flying home on Sunday, and
I said to myself, do they need to go this
service academy route in terms of style of play? Right?
Because if again, once you get into a place like Stanford, right,
once you get into a place like Northwestern or.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You're not giving up that degree, you're not leaving.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I talked to Manny Diaz about this last summer at Duke,
and he said the best thing we have going for
us is if some kid he comes into my office
and says, hey, coach, I think I want a transfer,
he goes. Within ten minutes, that kid's parents are calling
the kid and saying like, hell you are, You're not
going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's true and to your point, you know, the headaches
about all the other stuff that is on the periphery
of college sports. Take the service academies for example, right,
they cannot take advantage of nil because they're employees of
the federal government.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Those schools cannot use the transfer portal either, and you
only have four years there. So yeah, if you get
hurt and you're going to take a quote unquote red shirt,
you just can't use it at air Force, Navy, or Army.
You can go play somewhere else and even get a
graduate degree, and in some cases the service academy will
pay for you to take a graduate year at another program.
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But it's simplified. You got four years here, you're going
to graduate, You're going to get one of the most
coveted degrees in the country. You're going to be somebody
that you know, we all probably look up to one
day as a as a senator, as a congressman, as
a leader industry, just a leader in this country because
that's what you're taught. And I think you come out
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probably with your head screwed on a little straighter than
some of these other kids, who I just think are
being inundated with certain things that they're probably just not
ready for. And I don't mean that in a bad way.
I just think of myself when I'm eighteen, nineteen, twenty
twenty one years old, right, you know I didn't make
the best decisions. Neither did you.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And and try making the best decisions if you don't
have a great support system and you have two hundred
and thirty five thousand dollars that just got handed to
you or whatever the number is, right, dangerous, It is dangerous.
It's really dangerous. But you make a great point in
all this, because if you just want to coach ball,
if you just want to recruit, you just want to
have a relationship with the kids, move them on, get
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them their degree, and start the cycle over and over again.
There are going to be some jobs that are way
more attractive now than they ever would have been before.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, and all of a sudden, the things that we
always thought would hold. You know, some of those schools
back all of a sudden, they're becoming competitive advantages. Preserve
your culture, yes, build your players up, develop your players,
which are non existent in the world of the portal.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Right exactly, and you get to do all that without
the danger of losing them. In the end, Ladies and gentlemen,
the Weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Close to the episode caught bite feeling touchdown Carolina Weekend
Warriors late October. Let's now talk about the Heisman race
for real, because this is as interesting as a Heisman
race that we've had in years where you know, the
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top teams, they've got guys, right, Miami's undefeated, and there's
cam Ward and there's some really especial young wide receivers.
But this might be one of those years. I look in,
I know you're not a big baseball guy, but Andre
Dawson one year won the MVP in the National League
for a last place Cubs team. Was he was that good?
And usually the MVP award, Right, it's the best player
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on one of the best teams in the country. Correct,
the Heisman has kind of become best quarterback on one
of the best teams in the country. But there's a
couple of guys that I think we got to throw
in here. Let's start with the obvious one, which is
Colorado's Travis Hunter. And I know he's hurt. He's doing
things this game hasn't seen in a long long time.
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Even when you go back to ninety seven and Charles Woodson,
Charles Woodson wasn't playing this many snaps on offense.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
No, not even close.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He moonlighted, right, And again, I think he's a he's
a shoe in for the Thorpe. Yeah, he's gonna be,
you know, kind of the guy for the the All
Around Award. I'm blanking on it, which goes to the
best all round player. What's it called the Oh but Thorpe?
I thought Thorpe was a cornerback or.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It might actually be on the defensive. It might just
be defensive back. I can't remember. That's right. Yeah, anyway, anyway, but.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You're playing one hundred snaps a game on both sides
of the ball, and you're considered, yeah, a top draft
prospect and maybe the best at your position at two positions.
Right again, even if Colorado is eight and four or
seven and five, at the end of the day, whatever
it ends, up being I'm wondering, like, what's the case
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against Travis Hunter in this scenario.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I'm totally with you, and I've and I've looked at
this a lot of ways, and I have a Heisman vote,
so you know, I'm always careful what you know, what
I say publicly in terms of leaning one way or
the other. But the one thing about this when I
look at Travis Hunter is I refer back to the
language of the Heisman Trophy trust in the sense that
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it says the most outstanding. Okay, that term the most
outstanding player to me has to be defined by spectacular
plays or outstanding plays. And the thing about Travis Hunter
is whether he's playing offense or whether he's playing defense,
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He's not just out there a niche. No, Like, the
plays he's making are game altering, game changing, and in
some instances have been game saving. Right. That's different than
just playing one hundred and fifty five snaps. That's different
than being in the mix. Now. I understand that he
didn't play in the second half rest of his shoulder
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last week, only caught a couple of passes against Arizona
and they're blowout win. But you're right, the same way.
Ashton Genty is doing something that we haven't seen in
a long, long, long time. Travis Hunter is doing something
that it's not even that you don't see in a long,
long long time. You have to ask yourself, have you
seen anybody do it?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Ashton j I'm glad you went there. The Boise State
running back. He has one two, three, four five six
regular season games left, not counting a potential conference championship
and the bowl game, which now counts for your season totals.
It didn't count for Barry Sanders, but it counts these days.
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This guy's got a legitimate chance, legitimate chance, and what
I'm about to say sounds absurd. He's got a legitimate
shot at three thousand rushing yards. Think about that. He's
at twelve fifty six games into this season, he's at
twelve to fifty. So let's say he gets another twelve
to fifty for the remaining six. That puts him at
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twenty five hundred. And you're saying, wow, is he gonna
get five hundred in the conference championship and the bowl game? Well,
he ran for two fifty nine against WAZU, two sixty
seven in the season opener and two seventeen at Hawaii
in his last game, Oh, by the way, against Oregon,
which is the numbumber one team of the country, twenty
five for one, ninety two three touchdowns. So to me
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that that's kind of the game where people can't say, well,
who who have you played? Like that's the number one
team in the country right now.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, that's a look at I'm looking at the residents,
not just the rest of the schedule. Who do they
play on the schedule, right so UNLV, San Diego State, Nevada,
San Jose State, Wyoming, all right, Oregon State and then
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as you reference the Mountain West Championships, probably yeah, probably
probably so and barring injury. I think the thing that's
what's so remarkable about this is everybody is loading up
to the box and it doesn't matter like they have
people in the box that are not blocked, Like think
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about that, because boys, he does have enough guys to
block him. That's how much people are committing to stop
this guy and it doesn't matter. And I understand he's
not playing a power for schedule week in and week out,
but you're literally talking about averaging a first down per carry.
Say that again, first out, He's a walking first.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Down nine point nine, nine point nine per carry.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
We haven't seen this. I mean, we have not seen
this in a long long time. And again I'm going
to go back to this. If you're Boise State, which
is probably as prominent a group of five program as
there is in the country, right, I kind of look
at them the way we've long looked at Gonzaga in basketball.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Sure, absolutely, and they've had the success.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
They beat Oklahoma. We saw that many years ago in
the Fiesta Bowl. It's an established brand. But if you're
getting into those games against Wyoming and Nevada and San
Diego State, and yeah, let's say you're up comfortably, I
just got a feeling if you can get a Heisman
winner from Boise State, I mean, Luke's when you think
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about what that does for the program, what that does
for recruiting. You're gonna tell me they're gonna say, hey, Ashton,
you're gonna sit out the fourth quarter or now he's playing.
He's playing, right, he's getting those touches because a Heisman
trophy at that school means waysman at USC or Alabama
or Ohio State or Texas or any of the blue Bloods.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It can all it can permanently alter the trajectory of
a program.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Look at Baylor and RG three.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
No question, great, great example right there. And I you
know my question because I've always felt firmly about this
and I think there's legitimate legitimacy to it when you
look at the history of the Heisman Trophy? Is it
so hard to win the Heisman Trophy if you're on
the West Coast because of the windows that you play in,
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maybe not having it seen nationally being a number that
somebody looks up in a box score on Sunday morning.
If you include Rashaan Salama Colorado and ty depmer at
Byu as being on the West coast, over the last
thirty years, there are I believe seven Heisman Trophy winners
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on the West Coast and three of them went to
USC So how are you supposed to win the Heisman
Trophy if a lot of people aren't seeing you actually
physically do it. That would be the only thing that
I would throw out there that I would say, despite
the statistical prowess, despite the unbelievable performances, I would ask
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the question, how many people have actually watched this.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Guy well, I go back to this, right, this is
one of those seasons where the top teams in large part, right,
don't have that one guy who just kind of hits
you in the phase. Hey, best player, best team, this
is your Heisman Trophy winner. Now the one guy Derrick Henry, right,
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Derrick Henry mark Ingram. I mean we've seen all the
Bryce Young, all those guys, right. The one player I
think from the quote unquote blue bloods, the you know,
top teams in the country, who I do think is
very much in that discussion is cam Ward at Miami. Absolutely,
I'm not sure there's another one right now in Tier
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one with Hunter and Genty. Do you see anybody else
in Tier one? I don't. I'm kind of breaking it down.
I got Genty, Hunter, cam Ward. That's sort of my
big three. Now, there's plenty of times someone can move
into that group, but right now, to me, those guys
have separated.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
They're separated. The one guy that could maybe nip at
their heels if he continues to perform at a high,
high level for the remaining of the season would be
maybe Dylan Gabriel. At this point, you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Know, I thought about Gabriel, but the numbers, they're good,
and Oregon's got the big wins. Yeah, there's other quarterbacks
that you look at and say, he's got better numbers
than Gabriel. Cam's got way better numbers than Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. The question is going to be at
some point for some voters, They're going to say, well,
has cam Ord been challenged by any ranked teams? Does
Dylan Gabriel have a win versus Ohio State? Yes, and
then what you know, whatever would transpire for the rest
of the season could bring other factors into it when
make a decision. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
And here's what's interesting now, are some of those West
Coast teams that you talked about. I know, Mariota won
a Heisman at Oregon, and you mentioned the USC players,
Liner Palmer, Reggie Bush, right, Caleb Williams. But now that
you're in the Big ten and you're getting more afternoon windows,
does that change it for some of these West Coast teams.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I think it should. It should allow for opportunities to
play in that Central time zone and that East time
zone window that they would rarely have playing out West.
Their television opportunity would generally be the Pac twelve, the
Old Pack twelve after dark, or if there was a big,
huge ranked N ranked matchup, they either got ABC prime
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time or it got a twelve thirty Pacific three thirty
Eastern kick. But aside from that, and those were rare,
you were kind of relegated to the Pac twelve after dark.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yes, and then you know when you come Easter, you
come to the Central time zone. You got to win
those games with the Panthers. This weekend, we stayed in
College Park, about a mile away from where the Turps play,
and USC went to Maryland and lost.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So yeah, yeah, there's that. That's a different story, different
different show, different episode. I want to get to this
because you know, we've now done eight weeks of college
football here getting ready for week nine, and as we're watching,
there's guys who pop on your radar, and I don't
want to go the usual suspects around. I'll give you
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a couple that come to mind for me under the
radar draft prospects, and it may not be you know,
under the radar in terms of oh, you know, this
guy is on nobody's draft board. But it's not maybe
a glamour position. It's a team that may not be
on the national radar. I'll give you one. This weekend,
I was at BYU and they had a six foot
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five linebacker by the name of Isaiah Glasker. He wears
number sixteen. He was a high school wide receiver. When
Kalanie Sataki, the BYU head coach, and his staff saw
him and they brought him to Provo. They said, buddy,
you got a chance to be a linebacker, maybe a
hybrid safety type. And you know they've had some good
linebackers come through there, Fred Warner, Kyle van Noy. This
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guy is just scratching, scratching the surface of his potential.
He can run like the wind, he has hands, he
can cover, he can rush the passer. And I'm telling you,
Luke's when you watch this kid play and fly around
the field, you're going, Okay, this guy gets to an
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NFL team, somebody's going to figure out how to use him.
And maybe he's a big safety or an edge guy,
or know, one of these do it all linebackers in
this new age of football. But that's the guy that
I'm filing away, Isaiah Lasker, know that name. When his
time comes for the draft, who.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Do you have? I like that one. I like that one,
I'm going to give you another one that's actually a
transfer portal guy that is helping to transform a defense
of a team that is near and dear to your heart,
and that is Fadill Dick Syracuse. And and I say
that because of the way they are playing it. He's
six five two sixty, so he looks like Dante how
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high tower. But what they've done is they've taken him
and they have played him at middle linebacker. They've played
him at three technique, different defensive tackle. They've played him
with his hand on the as an edge guy and
then also as a stand up player off of the edge.
And he is so graceful, and he's so big and
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long and physical. And the what they're doing with him
is going to jump off the film to NFL guys,
because they're literally instead of asking no, what I wonder
if this guy could play from a stand up spot,
or if I wonder if this guy could play from distance?
And it's all on tape and nobody has a legitimate
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answer for him. We ran a breakdown tape getting ready
for the NC State game. Or I picked three plays
where he single handedly make the play by himself, lined
up in three different positions on three consecutive plays.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I thought when we had him week four against Stanford,
I think it was the previous week or two weeks
prior they had played Georgia Tech, Syracuse had correct and
going into that game, Syracuse lost its best defensive player,
their middle linebacker, an NFL prospect Marlow Wax, and they
moved Fordill Diggs to mike linebacker, essentially as a quarterback
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spy on Georgia Tech's mobile quarterback, Haines King, and he
changed the game.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, that's it. And they're still doing it with him.
It's unbelievable. It's really impressive, really really impressive. I forgot
you had that Stanford game.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I'm gonna give you another guy. And I'm going to
sound like a Syracuse homer here, but the quarterback Kyle McCord,
who was sort of cast off at Ohio State game manager,
and really his big sin in Columbus was the fact
that he wasn't justin fields and he wasn't CJ.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Stroud.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Let's be honest, right, he was a solid quarterback there. Well,
he's come to Syracuse. In the game we had there
were a bunch of NFL scouts lined up watching him,
and one of them told me, this is a guy
who has a chance to probably be a mid round pick.
You stash him, you develop them for a couple of years,
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and you might have yourself an NFL starter.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I would tend to agree with you. I've had one
of his games so far this year, as you have.
I've also had to watch him quite a bit as
an opponent of somebody we were getting ready to play,
or we were getting ready to broadcast, and in the
game that you had, that was the first time he had.
He didn't well rushed, he didn't play well. He got rushed,
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he got bounced around. It led to turnovers. But he
hasn't played like that since. And I agree with you.
I think there's an anticipation, a moxie about him. He's
got innate leadership traits. To your point, you don't want
him to be a play right away guy, but if
you were able to bring him in and work and develop,
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and work and develop, I agree. I think he's got
a chance to be a really, really good player. And
quite honestly, I don't know if I see all that
much difference between Will Howard and Kyle McCord.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And the only difference I would say is Will Howard
is a little more mobile.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, a little more mobile.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
But the court is clearly the better passer.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yes, absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I'm gonna give you two more just again. And these
are guys that we've seen. Arizona State's got a running
back five eleven two fifteen Scataboo and Kenny Dillingham, their
head coach, told us that he had maybe the best
contact balance of any running back he's coached. And Dillingham
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has coached about a half dozen NFL running backs as
a coach coordinator in college. And when you watch this
kid again physically not imposing, but he actually has a
chance to make an NFL roster because he plays kickoff coverage.
He could be a core four special teams guy for you.
But when he gets hit like it's like a pinball
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wizard where it looks like he's gonna go down, his
ability to stay on his feet through contact, and we've
seen that lose. That's what separates the great running backs.
And I'm not saying this guy is gonna really and
all pro or anything, but a guy who has a chance,
I think and will get a look. The contact balance
is real. May not have the breakaway speed, may not
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have the wheels, but he's physical. The guy's got an
incredible motor. And again, his ability to keep balance through contact, man,
that is I think one of the best traits you
need for a running back.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, that's it's a great call. And and you're right.
You have to be able to withstand initial contact, particularly
to and through the whole at the line of scrimmage.
You got to be a fall forward guy and then
to be able to maintain your balance. I've watched I've
watched that kid a bunch, you know, staying up and
watching those games. I've been so impressed with everything he
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brings to the table. Everything he brings to the table
is exactly what you want. And I think he's also
one of those guys it's a tone center for your
football team. Yeah, like he he is. Everybody wants to
be him in terms of how he chooses to play
the game. I'm gonna give you another guy too that
is skyrocketing up draft boards, or should be based off
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of the last seven weeks of college football, and that's
APR at Virginia. Oh yeah, an Antwine Powell Island. Yeah,
and he is an absolute menace and he does not stop.
He is relentless. And when you combine athleticism and twitchiness
in burst with a guy that plays as hard as
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he does, you've got a handful.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Is he a guy APR who's had I think, what
a couple of four SAC games already this season? Is
he big enough about what fifty? I mean, I guess
that's big enough these days, right for a modern day edge?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Oh? Absolutely, And I don't think that any question. It's
kind of like Devin Donovan ez a rock to it
at BC on the shorter side. Probably is that gonna
be your true hand on the ground guy play off
off the line of scrimmage a little bit, But I
think so. I think I think his pass res skills
and his arm length are are there. So you know
that that's gonna be interesting to see. I'm gonna actually
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throw one out to you out of curiosity for whether
or not you've seen uh this particular guy what you have?
I know you lander Barton at Utah. How's he looking
to you?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah? Another guy again. You gotta love the pedigree, right,
he comes from.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
A foot.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Started as a true freshman you know who. He reminds
me of a little Peyton Wilson from ENCI State.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Oh well, that's that's high praise.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Sideline to sideline, high motor, but without the extensive injury history.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yes, correct, you're right, not as much mileage on the chest.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
No, and I'll give you one last one and can't
ass actually has two I think pro corners, but I
was gonna give you both a Melo Dotson and Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Kobe Bryant's the transfer from Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Right, Kobe Bryant, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I think he was originally at Cincy. He was the
other corner opposite of the tall kidding No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
That Kobe Bryant I think is I think he's with
the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Now, okay, he's not. Okay, so that's a different one.
How do we have two of those?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah? So this is co b e e.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Oh yeah, that's a different one. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
He's been with I think Kansas for a few years.
But he and Melow Dots and I know the Jayhawks.
They've disappointed this year. Expectations were higher. Not playing well,
but Melo Dotson had a big game the other night.
I think he had three picks. Kobe Bryant both those
guys make plays on the ball, they're able to take
away you know, really good receivers that you see in
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the Big twelve. I'm again they've been challenged and I think,
you know, it's kind of like the sauce Gardener Kobe
Bryant that that we're thinking of at Cincinnati, right, where
sometimes those guys who play at non marquee programs, which
Kansas is, despite being in a power conference, sometimes there's
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other breakdowns there and it doesn't really portray the whole story.
And then when you just kind of watch them on
an island and what they do, You're going, these guys
are pretty good, and so I'll give you those names.
I think it's interesting because you know there's the usual
suspects who get all the airtime, and we play the
hits and it's the same five guys we talk about
in the draft. We know Travis Hunter is going to
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go somewhere in the top five. Right, it's a broken record, right.
You're kind of doing these games and you kind of, hey,
that guy does some things that you know that translates
to Sunday catches your eye.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Sure, and remember this when you when you really build
a strong roster through the draft rounds four through seven.
There's so much.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I mean, that's where to me the great teams are
able to sustain success. Good guys in rounds four through seven,
you can sustain success before we go? Where are you
this weekend?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I am SMU. The twenty second ranked SMU Mustangs somehow
dropped after winning by thirty on the road at Duke,
coming off the first ever time they've ever beaten Florida State.
How about this a niche? Duke beats Florida State for
the first time ever, not forever, in as many years, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,
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and the Duke students do not tear down the goalpost.
What did they say about Florida?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Stay, we're not rushing the field for one and six?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Oh my goodness, we expect to beat them? Wow? Yeah,
how about that? Wow? Times they are a change in.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'll be at Boston College Alumni's Louisville BC ACC game
Friday night.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Let me know if I can help. I've had BC
and I haven't had louis yet, but I've seen a
ton of them. But yeah, I'll tell you what. BC's
got to get back on track. Man. They're not playing
smart winning football.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
No they put themselves in a big hole. I watched
the game against Virginia Tech on the plane, yeah, on Thursday,
and you know, just mistake after mistake in the first half,
down twenty eight to nothing and then able to come
back sort of expended their turbo, and then Virginia Tech
took over. You got to stop the run in base
shall tooting. He's still running. He is untouched, absolutely untouched.
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But it should be a good scene there Friday night
and then we will reconvene on Monday next week, Halloween Week. Oh,
that should be a fun episode.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Boy, let's go.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Luke's will reveal his Halloween costume on the next episode
of Weekend Warriors.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Stay tuned absolutely, Stay tuned five
An A Shroff and Tom Logan Bill back here on
another episode of Weekend Warriors, and we still have not
been canceled. How about that we're surviving in twenty twenty four,
surviving You jealous by the way, seventh straight heater on
Friday night?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Am I jealousy? You not read the texts?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
You Every Saturday morning with smoke coming out of my
ears and bloodshot eyes literally going dude every Friday is
a flat out banger, bro.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I mean it's unbelievable. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
And this weekend we were in a beautiful provo Utah
BYU beat Oklahoma State in a thriller. Their quarterback, Jake Rhetzlaff,
showed some hutzpah yeh. He's the self proclaimed by Jew
and I'm not that's it. I'm not saying that to
be offensive or offend anybody. He embraces that. They have
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shirts at the stadium. People have shirts that say by Jew.
For those that don't know, Rehetzloff is the first Jewish
quarterback in the history of BYU football. Of course, BYU's
got the affiliation with the LDS Church. It is, it's
wild and they Logan Bill have become one of the
cool stories in college football along with Army and Navy.
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And I wanted to begin the show here because a
conversation that we had with Oklahoma State head coach Mike Gundy,
and he was pretty frank about it. He said, in
this age when student athletes are chasing money, and we
use nil as kind of this catch all, right, but
nil is different than what's happening where guys are getting paid.
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There's collectives and you go to this school and they'll
pay you this much. Nil is your ability to make
money off of your name, image and likeness. But as
we're finding out, money's coming in from other places. And
he said, there's some programs out there where you're not
having the roster turnover. You're in year out like you
are at other places. And it's happening at small schools,
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at big schools. It's happening everywhere. But he pointed to BYU,
where you and I have both covered this program. You're
recruiting a certain kind of kid, right, faith based student,
usually an LDS kid, somebody who probably will serve a
mission for a couple of years stateside or abroad. You
kind of know what you're signing up for when you
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go to BYU in the same way. If you go
to a service academy and here we are late October.
BYU is undefeated, Army and Navy are undefeated. And I
don't know if this is isolated because in an age
where coaches are so challenged to preserve and keep their
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culture intact, if you're one of these service academies, if
you're a school like BYU, where you have some coaching continuity,
you have a culture in place. You're recruiting a certain
type of kid who doesn't really care about yaw, the
bells and whistles of how much money am I going
to get? You're going there for another reason, and football
may not be the be all, end all, but it
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allows you to really build a program. And there's not
a lot of coaches around the country who can do
that anymore. And I'm not saying it evens the playing
field entirely, because talent still matters at the end, sure,
but it does shift the playing field upward for those
schools which usually had to work against the grain.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, and those are what I would now label is
headache free jobs. You're right if you want to recruit, develop, coach, graduate, repeat, recruit, develop, coach, graduate, repeat,
and not have to worry about any of those other
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auxiliary items that are now at the forefront of major
college football. You talk about Army, you talk about Navy,
obviously air Force. I just got done broadcasting Stanford, who
is under second year head coach Troy Taylor. They are
in a scenario where they've got a massive, massive, massive endowment.
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If they wanted to open it up, if they wanted
to be a major player nationally, they have the funds
to do whatever they want to do. However, they're Stanford.
They're not going to do that. So they don't have
the ability through name, image and likeness. They don't have
the ability through the transfer portal, to wave a magic
wand and transform their roster. And I came away from
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the game and I was flying home on Sunday, and
I said to myself, do they need to go this
service academy route in terms of style of play? Right?
Because if again, once you get into a place like Stanford, right,
once you get into a place like Northwestern or.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You're not giving up that degree, you're not leaving.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I talked to Manny Diaz about this last summer at Duke,
and he said the best thing we have going for
us is if some kid he comes into my office
and says, hey, coach, I think I want a transfer,
he goes. Within ten minutes, that kid's parents are calling
the kid and saying like, hell you are, You're not
going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's true and to your point, you know, the headaches
about all the other stuff that is on the periphery
of college sports. Take the service academies for example, right,
they cannot take advantage of nil because they're employees of
the federal government.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Those schools cannot use the transfer portal either, and you
only have four years there. So yeah, if you get
hurt and you're going to take a quote unquote red shirt,
you just can't use it at air Force, Navy, or Army.
You can go play somewhere else and even get a
graduate degree, and in some cases the service academy will
pay for you to take a graduate year at another program.
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But it's simplified. You got four years here, you're going
to graduate, You're going to get one of the most
coveted degrees in the country. You're going to be somebody
that you know, we all probably look up to one
day as a as a senator, as a congressman, as
a leader industry, just a leader in this country because
that's what you're taught. And I think you come out
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probably with your head screwed on a little straighter than
some of these other kids, who I just think are
being inundated with certain things that they're probably just not
ready for. And I don't mean that in a bad way.
I just think of myself when I'm eighteen, nineteen, twenty
twenty one years old, right, you know I didn't make
the best decisions. Neither did you.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And and try making the best decisions if you don't
have a great support system and you have two hundred
and thirty five thousand dollars that just got handed to
you or whatever the number is, right, dangerous, It is dangerous.
It's really dangerous. But you make a great point in
all this, because if you just want to coach ball,
if you just want to recruit, you just want to
have a relationship with the kids, move them on, get
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them their degree, and start the cycle over and over again.
There are going to be some jobs that are way
more attractive now than they ever would have been before.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, and all of a sudden, the things that we
always thought would hold. You know, some of those schools
back all of a sudden, they're becoming competitive advantages. Preserve
your culture, yes, build your players up, develop your players,
which are non existent in the world of the portal.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Right exactly, and you get to do all that without
the danger of losing them. In the end, Ladies and gentlemen,
the Weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Close to the episode caught bite feeling touchdown Carolina Weekend
Warriors late October. Let's now talk about the Heisman race
for real, because this is as interesting as a Heisman
race that we've had in years where you know, the
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top teams, they've got guys, right, Miami's undefeated, and there's
cam Ward and there's some really especial young wide receivers.
But this might be one of those years. I look in,
I know you're not a big baseball guy, but Andre
Dawson one year won the MVP in the National League
for a last place Cubs team. Was he was that good?
And usually the MVP award, Right, it's the best player
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on one of the best teams in the country. Correct,
the Heisman has kind of become best quarterback on one
of the best teams in the country. But there's a
couple of guys that I think we got to throw
in here. Let's start with the obvious one, which is
Colorado's Travis Hunter. And I know he's hurt. He's doing
things this game hasn't seen in a long long time.
(08:33):
Even when you go back to ninety seven and Charles Woodson,
Charles Woodson wasn't playing this many snaps on offense.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
No, not even close.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He moonlighted, right, And again, I think he's a he's
a shoe in for the Thorpe. Yeah, he's gonna be,
you know, kind of the guy for the the All
Around Award. I'm blanking on it, which goes to the
best all round player. What's it called the Oh but Thorpe?
I thought Thorpe was a cornerback or.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It might actually be on the defensive. It might just
be defensive back. I can't remember. That's right. Yeah, anyway, anyway, but.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You're playing one hundred snaps a game on both sides
of the ball, and you're considered, yeah, a top draft
prospect and maybe the best at your position at two positions.
Right again, even if Colorado is eight and four or
seven and five, at the end of the day, whatever
it ends, up being I'm wondering, like, what's the case
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against Travis Hunter in this scenario.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I'm totally with you, and I've and I've looked at
this a lot of ways, and I have a Heisman vote,
so you know, I'm always careful what you know, what
I say publicly in terms of leaning one way or
the other. But the one thing about this when I
look at Travis Hunter is I refer back to the
language of the Heisman Trophy trust in the sense that
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it says the most outstanding. Okay, that term the most
outstanding player to me has to be defined by spectacular
plays or outstanding plays. And the thing about Travis Hunter
is whether he's playing offense or whether he's playing defense,
(10:17):
He's not just out there a niche. No, Like, the
plays he's making are game altering, game changing, and in
some instances have been game saving. Right. That's different than
just playing one hundred and fifty five snaps. That's different
than being in the mix. Now. I understand that he
didn't play in the second half rest of his shoulder
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last week, only caught a couple of passes against Arizona
and they're blowout win. But you're right, the same way.
Ashton Genty is doing something that we haven't seen in
a long, long, long time. Travis Hunter is doing something
that it's not even that you don't see in a long,
long long time. You have to ask yourself, have you
seen anybody do it?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Ashton j I'm glad you went there. The Boise State
running back. He has one two, three, four five six
regular season games left, not counting a potential conference championship
and the bowl game, which now counts for your season totals.
It didn't count for Barry Sanders, but it counts these days.
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This guy's got a legitimate chance, legitimate chance, and what
I'm about to say sounds absurd. He's got a legitimate
shot at three thousand rushing yards. Think about that. He's
at twelve fifty six games into this season, he's at
twelve to fifty. So let's say he gets another twelve
to fifty for the remaining six. That puts him at
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twenty five hundred. And you're saying, wow, is he gonna
get five hundred in the conference championship and the bowl game? Well,
he ran for two fifty nine against WAZU, two sixty
seven in the season opener and two seventeen at Hawaii
in his last game, Oh, by the way, against Oregon,
which is the numbumber one team of the country, twenty
five for one, ninety two three touchdowns. So to me
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that that's kind of the game where people can't say, well,
who who have you played? Like that's the number one
team in the country right now.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, that's a look at I'm looking at the residents,
not just the rest of the schedule. Who do they
play on the schedule, right so UNLV, San Diego State, Nevada,
San Jose State, Wyoming, all right, Oregon State and then
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as you reference the Mountain West Championships, probably yeah, probably
probably so and barring injury. I think the thing that's
what's so remarkable about this is everybody is loading up
to the box and it doesn't matter like they have
people in the box that are not blocked, Like think
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about that, because boys, he does have enough guys to
block him. That's how much people are committing to stop
this guy and it doesn't matter. And I understand he's
not playing a power for schedule week in and week out,
but you're literally talking about averaging a first down per carry.
Say that again, first out, He's a walking first.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Down nine point nine, nine point nine per carry.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
We haven't seen this. I mean, we have not seen
this in a long long time. And again I'm going
to go back to this. If you're Boise State, which
is probably as prominent a group of five program as
there is in the country, right, I kind of look
at them the way we've long looked at Gonzaga in basketball.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Sure, absolutely, and they've had the success.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
They beat Oklahoma. We saw that many years ago in
the Fiesta Bowl. It's an established brand. But if you're
getting into those games against Wyoming and Nevada and San
Diego State, and yeah, let's say you're up comfortably, I
just got a feeling if you can get a Heisman
winner from Boise State, I mean, Luke's when you think
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about what that does for the program, what that does
for recruiting. You're gonna tell me they're gonna say, hey, Ashton,
you're gonna sit out the fourth quarter or now he's playing.
He's playing, right, he's getting those touches because a Heisman
trophy at that school means waysman at USC or Alabama
or Ohio State or Texas or any of the blue Bloods.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It can all it can permanently alter the trajectory of
a program.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Look at Baylor and RG three.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
No question, great, great example right there. And I you
know my question because I've always felt firmly about this
and I think there's legitimate legitimacy to it when you
look at the history of the Heisman Trophy? Is it
so hard to win the Heisman Trophy if you're on
the West Coast because of the windows that you play in,
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maybe not having it seen nationally being a number that
somebody looks up in a box score on Sunday morning.
If you include Rashaan Salama Colorado and ty depmer at
Byu as being on the West coast, over the last
thirty years, there are I believe seven Heisman Trophy winners
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on the West Coast and three of them went to
USC So how are you supposed to win the Heisman
Trophy if a lot of people aren't seeing you actually
physically do it. That would be the only thing that
I would throw out there that I would say, despite
the statistical prowess, despite the unbelievable performances, I would ask
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the question, how many people have actually watched this.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Guy well, I go back to this, right, this is
one of those seasons where the top teams in large part, right,
don't have that one guy who just kind of hits
you in the phase. Hey, best player, best team, this
is your Heisman Trophy winner. Now the one guy Derrick Henry, right,
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Derrick Henry mark Ingram. I mean we've seen all the
Bryce Young, all those guys, right. The one player I
think from the quote unquote blue bloods, the you know,
top teams in the country, who I do think is
very much in that discussion is cam Ward at Miami. Absolutely,
I'm not sure there's another one right now in Tier
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one with Hunter and Genty. Do you see anybody else
in Tier one? I don't. I'm kind of breaking it down.
I got Genty, Hunter, cam Ward. That's sort of my
big three. Now, there's plenty of times someone can move
into that group, but right now, to me, those guys
have separated.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
They're separated. The one guy that could maybe nip at
their heels if he continues to perform at a high,
high level for the remaining of the season would be
maybe Dylan Gabriel. At this point, you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Know, I thought about Gabriel, but the numbers, they're good,
and Oregon's got the big wins. Yeah, there's other quarterbacks
that you look at and say, he's got better numbers
than Gabriel. Cam's got way better numbers than Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. The question is going to be at
some point for some voters, They're going to say, well,
has cam Ord been challenged by any ranked teams? Does
Dylan Gabriel have a win versus Ohio State? Yes, and
then what you know, whatever would transpire for the rest
of the season could bring other factors into it when
make a decision. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
And here's what's interesting now, are some of those West
Coast teams that you talked about. I know, Mariota won
a Heisman at Oregon, and you mentioned the USC players,
Liner Palmer, Reggie Bush, right, Caleb Williams. But now that
you're in the Big ten and you're getting more afternoon windows,
does that change it for some of these West Coast teams.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I think it should. It should allow for opportunities to
play in that Central time zone and that East time
zone window that they would rarely have playing out West.
Their television opportunity would generally be the Pac twelve, the
Old Pack twelve after dark, or if there was a big,
huge ranked N ranked matchup, they either got ABC prime
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time or it got a twelve thirty Pacific three thirty
Eastern kick. But aside from that, and those were rare,
you were kind of relegated to the Pac twelve after dark.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yes, and then you know when you come Easter, you
come to the Central time zone. You got to win
those games with the Panthers. This weekend, we stayed in
College Park, about a mile away from where the Turps play,
and USC went to Maryland and lost.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So yeah, yeah, there's that. That's a different story, different
different show, different episode. I want to get to this
because you know, we've now done eight weeks of college
football here getting ready for week nine, and as we're watching,
there's guys who pop on your radar, and I don't
want to go the usual suspects around. I'll give you
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a couple that come to mind for me under the
radar draft prospects, and it may not be you know,
under the radar in terms of oh, you know, this
guy is on nobody's draft board. But it's not maybe
a glamour position. It's a team that may not be
on the national radar. I'll give you one. This weekend,
I was at BYU and they had a six foot
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five linebacker by the name of Isaiah Glasker. He wears
number sixteen. He was a high school wide receiver. When
Kalanie Sataki, the BYU head coach, and his staff saw
him and they brought him to Provo. They said, buddy,
you got a chance to be a linebacker, maybe a
hybrid safety type. And you know they've had some good
linebackers come through there, Fred Warner, Kyle van Noy. This
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guy is just scratching, scratching the surface of his potential.
He can run like the wind, he has hands, he
can cover, he can rush the passer. And I'm telling you,
Luke's when you watch this kid play and fly around
the field, you're going, Okay, this guy gets to an
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NFL team, somebody's going to figure out how to use him.
And maybe he's a big safety or an edge guy,
or know, one of these do it all linebackers in
this new age of football. But that's the guy that
I'm filing away, Isaiah Lasker, know that name. When his
time comes for the draft, who.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Do you have? I like that one. I like that one,
I'm going to give you another one that's actually a
transfer portal guy that is helping to transform a defense
of a team that is near and dear to your heart,
and that is Fadill Dick Syracuse. And and I say
that because of the way they are playing it. He's
six five two sixty, so he looks like Dante how
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high tower. But what they've done is they've taken him
and they have played him at middle linebacker. They've played
him at three technique, different defensive tackle. They've played him
with his hand on the as an edge guy and
then also as a stand up player off of the edge.
And he is so graceful, and he's so big and
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long and physical. And the what they're doing with him
is going to jump off the film to NFL guys,
because they're literally instead of asking no, what I wonder
if this guy could play from a stand up spot,
or if I wonder if this guy could play from distance?
And it's all on tape and nobody has a legitimate
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answer for him. We ran a breakdown tape getting ready
for the NC State game. Or I picked three plays
where he single handedly make the play by himself, lined
up in three different positions on three consecutive plays.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I thought when we had him week four against Stanford,
I think it was the previous week or two weeks
prior they had played Georgia Tech, Syracuse had correct and
going into that game, Syracuse lost its best defensive player,
their middle linebacker, an NFL prospect Marlow Wax, and they
moved Fordill Diggs to mike linebacker, essentially as a quarterback
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spy on Georgia Tech's mobile quarterback, Haines King, and he
changed the game.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, that's it. And they're still doing it with him.
It's unbelievable. It's really impressive, really really impressive. I forgot
you had that Stanford game.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I'm gonna give you another guy. And I'm going to
sound like a Syracuse homer here, but the quarterback Kyle McCord,
who was sort of cast off at Ohio State game manager,
and really his big sin in Columbus was the fact
that he wasn't justin fields and he wasn't CJ.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Stroud.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Let's be honest, right, he was a solid quarterback there. Well,
he's come to Syracuse. In the game we had there
were a bunch of NFL scouts lined up watching him,
and one of them told me, this is a guy
who has a chance to probably be a mid round pick.
You stash him, you develop them for a couple of years,
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and you might have yourself an NFL starter.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I would tend to agree with you. I've had one
of his games so far this year, as you have.
I've also had to watch him quite a bit as
an opponent of somebody we were getting ready to play,
or we were getting ready to broadcast, and in the
game that you had, that was the first time he had.
He didn't well rushed, he didn't play well. He got rushed,
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he got bounced around. It led to turnovers. But he
hasn't played like that since. And I agree with you.
I think there's an anticipation, a moxie about him. He's
got innate leadership traits. To your point, you don't want
him to be a play right away guy, but if
you were able to bring him in and work and develop,
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and work and develop, I agree. I think he's got
a chance to be a really, really good player. And
quite honestly, I don't know if I see all that
much difference between Will Howard and Kyle McCord.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And the only difference I would say is Will Howard
is a little more mobile.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, a little more mobile.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
But the court is clearly the better passer.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yes, absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I'm gonna give you two more just again. And these
are guys that we've seen. Arizona State's got a running
back five eleven two fifteen Scataboo and Kenny Dillingham, their
head coach, told us that he had maybe the best
contact balance of any running back he's coached. And Dillingham
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has coached about a half dozen NFL running backs as
a coach coordinator in college. And when you watch this
kid again physically not imposing, but he actually has a
chance to make an NFL roster because he plays kickoff coverage.
He could be a core four special teams guy for you.
But when he gets hit like it's like a pinball
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wizard where it looks like he's gonna go down, his
ability to stay on his feet through contact, and we've
seen that lose. That's what separates the great running backs.
And I'm not saying this guy is gonna really and
all pro or anything, but a guy who has a chance,
I think and will get a look. The contact balance
is real. May not have the breakaway speed, may not
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have the wheels, but he's physical. The guy's got an
incredible motor. And again, his ability to keep balance through contact, man,
that is I think one of the best traits you
need for a running back.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, that's it's a great call. And and you're right.
You have to be able to withstand initial contact, particularly
to and through the whole at the line of scrimmage.
You got to be a fall forward guy and then
to be able to maintain your balance. I've watched I've
watched that kid a bunch, you know, staying up and
watching those games. I've been so impressed with everything he
(25:51):
brings to the table. Everything he brings to the table
is exactly what you want. And I think he's also
one of those guys it's a tone center for your
football team. Yeah, like he he is. Everybody wants to
be him in terms of how he chooses to play
the game. I'm gonna give you another guy too that
is skyrocketing up draft boards, or should be based off
(26:14):
of the last seven weeks of college football, and that's
APR at Virginia. Oh yeah, an Antwine Powell Island. Yeah,
and he is an absolute menace and he does not stop.
He is relentless. And when you combine athleticism and twitchiness
in burst with a guy that plays as hard as
(26:36):
he does, you've got a handful.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Is he a guy APR who's had I think, what
a couple of four SAC games already this season? Is
he big enough about what fifty? I mean, I guess
that's big enough these days, right for a modern day edge?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Oh? Absolutely, And I don't think that any question. It's
kind of like Devin Donovan ez a rock to it
at BC on the shorter side. Probably is that gonna
be your true hand on the ground guy play off
off the line of scrimmage a little bit, But I
think so. I think I think his pass res skills
and his arm length are are there. So you know
that that's gonna be interesting to see. I'm gonna actually
(27:16):
throw one out to you out of curiosity for whether
or not you've seen uh this particular guy what you have?
I know you lander Barton at Utah. How's he looking
to you?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah? Another guy again. You gotta love the pedigree, right,
he comes from.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
A foot.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Started as a true freshman you know who. He reminds
me of a little Peyton Wilson from ENCI State.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Oh well, that's that's high praise.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Sideline to sideline, high motor, but without the extensive injury history.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yes, correct, you're right, not as much mileage on the chest.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
No, and I'll give you one last one and can't
ass actually has two I think pro corners, but I
was gonna give you both a Melo Dotson and Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Kobe Bryant's the transfer from Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Right, Kobe Bryant, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I think he was originally at Cincy. He was the
other corner opposite of the tall kidding No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
That Kobe Bryant I think is I think he's with
the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Now, okay, he's not. Okay, so that's a different one.
How do we have two of those?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah? So this is co b e e.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Oh yeah, that's a different one. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
He's been with I think Kansas for a few years.
But he and Melow Dots and I know the Jayhawks.
They've disappointed this year. Expectations were higher. Not playing well,
but Melo Dotson had a big game the other night.
I think he had three picks. Kobe Bryant both those
guys make plays on the ball, they're able to take
away you know, really good receivers that you see in
(28:55):
the Big twelve. I'm again they've been challenged and I think,
you know, it's kind of like the sauce Gardener Kobe
Bryant that that we're thinking of at Cincinnati, right, where
sometimes those guys who play at non marquee programs, which
Kansas is, despite being in a power conference, sometimes there's
(29:17):
other breakdowns there and it doesn't really portray the whole story.
And then when you just kind of watch them on
an island and what they do, You're going, these guys
are pretty good, and so I'll give you those names.
I think it's interesting because you know there's the usual
suspects who get all the airtime, and we play the
hits and it's the same five guys we talk about
in the draft. We know Travis Hunter is going to
(29:39):
go somewhere in the top five. Right, it's a broken record, right.
You're kind of doing these games and you kind of, hey,
that guy does some things that you know that translates
to Sunday catches your eye.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Sure, and remember this when you when you really build
a strong roster through the draft rounds four through seven.
There's so much.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I mean, that's where to me the great teams are
able to sustain success. Good guys in rounds four through seven,
you can sustain success before we go? Where are you
this weekend?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I am SMU. The twenty second ranked SMU Mustangs somehow
dropped after winning by thirty on the road at Duke,
coming off the first ever time they've ever beaten Florida State.
How about this a niche? Duke beats Florida State for
the first time ever, not forever, in as many years, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,
(30:39):
and the Duke students do not tear down the goalpost.
What did they say about Florida?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Stay, we're not rushing the field for one and six?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Oh my goodness, we expect to beat them? Wow? Yeah,
how about that? Wow? Times they are a change in.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'll be at Boston College Alumni's Louisville BC ACC game
Friday night.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Let me know if I can help. I've had BC
and I haven't had louis yet, but I've seen a
ton of them. But yeah, I'll tell you what. BC's
got to get back on track. Man. They're not playing
smart winning football.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
No they put themselves in a big hole. I watched
the game against Virginia Tech on the plane, yeah, on Thursday,
and you know, just mistake after mistake in the first half,
down twenty eight to nothing and then able to come
back sort of expended their turbo, and then Virginia Tech
took over. You got to stop the run in base
shall tooting. He's still running. He is untouched, absolutely untouched.
(31:38):
But it should be a good scene there Friday night
and then we will reconvene on Monday next week, Halloween Week. Oh,
that should be a fun episode.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Boy, let's go.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Luke's will reveal his Halloween costume on the next episode
of Weekend Warriors.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Stay tuned absolutely, Stay tuned five
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