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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Behind Kentucky Football, presented by District seven Social.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome to the Wildcat at Gabriel Tom Les Jeff Picoro
will set up Kentucky Ell miss for you.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Of course, we were all down there a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
First of all, sunblock sunglasses on my sunscreen yesterday. There
must be tause I have extra few. But you, gentlemen,
whatever it is about the angle of the press box,
the sun at that hour just hits you, guys right
in the Why don't we always play it?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
I don't know. Game kicks at eleven am local time
there in Mississippi, and that son I noticed last time,
and I guess twenty ten. Maybe it was a maybe
a noon game or certainly early afternoon, and it's just
parked over there for a while, And so I have
sunscreen already in the back of the hand.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I don't remember ninth games. I don't know we've ever
worked tonight, never been.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Oh I haven't you don't think so? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
No, I remember.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I remember the one game down there with Mummy, and
it was in Lorenzo and I guess, said Derek Smith
that went for like a ninety something yard touchdown pass
and got called back.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Oh, and they ended up losing again.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
They just the air went out and they just But
then the last time Kentucky played there two years ago,
it was a disaster in the first half and it
looked like they were on their way to a blowout.
And somehow Tom Kentucky turned that game around, starting with
a defense to that high powered offense.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Gave up three points in the second.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Half nineteen six at one point. Yeah, he got a
touchdown right before halftime, any and had two drives into
the red zone in the last quarter to tie it
or win it.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Two fumbles, Yeah, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
The first thing that Mark Trufe said to us when
he came in, amen, we do the post game after
the Georgia game.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
He was so dejected, but he said, we had the
right restpe.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And so based on that game two years ago, and
obviously you got to execute, you got to take care
of the ball. But Brad White, at least I think
has the recipe. Now can they put it together. It's
gonna be really interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I guess if you look at the teams they played,
maybe Wake Forest is the toughest team they They've played.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Four teams between their FBFC is, but four teams have
five wins.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
And they beat and they beat them by a total
score of two or twenty to twenty two.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
So I'm sure Ole Miss is good, but they can't
be as good everything is.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
You know what's amazing.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
When I'm doing my charts here, I think it's twenty
the twenty two too deep on defense or all transfers. Yes,
I mean, I'm like every dime, I'm right in Texas, Miami, Florida.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
If they're from all over, there's not one.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Transfer because like you said, SEC's.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, oh yes, yes, no one does it as good
as him, And I don't know what the secret sauce is.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
And they have guys who they're getting them, getting them
where they have them for a while, like Dart Transfer
Southern Coast, third year in that system. Correct Ivy who
made the levis to force them back. He came in
from Georgia Tech. He played in the game twenty two,
so he's in his third Okay.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
How do you say Princely's last name? He came from Florida.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
He was the fonetically on my board a Saturday.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
He was their best defensive when we played them in
Florida two years ago. And now he's there is one
of their top defensively.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
It's crazy, Dick. I mean in all the.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Backups, linebackers, best linebackers from Arkansas.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Yeah, they get that pe Geese guy. I think say
you say it's it's just from crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Whatever they're doing, like I said, it's working.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Just they're going to run into a defense that held
Geordia to thirteen points and they're studying that.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
They know that.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
And the one play that hurt Kentucky the most in
that game was that long pass play that ended really
any shot Kentucky had laid the ball game. That came
down to miscommunication and that has got to be so
vital in this game.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
And you know, it's interesting, Tom.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
I don't know if you saw the interviews yesterday with
the players, but Dion Dion's interview yesterday he was talking
about They said, what's it like, you know, playing it,
and he said, well, the first thing is it's so
loud you can't hear anything, and you just have to
kind of hand signal and look at the guy next
to you because you just can't hear it. And it's
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only and that's not a huge stadium, sixty seven thousand,
so just a little bigger than Kentucky Stadium than Kroger Field, but.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's got the one airly tall.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, the other end is not, so it doesn't trap
all that noise. But the other end is a student section.
Is they get it done?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Kentucky's played really well defensively save for one area, and
it's some communication issues in the secondary. In the secondary,
we assume there were three I think three of them
maybe South Carolina really only one against Georgia was a
huge one on the thirty three yard pass play after
the much discussed punt where that got Georgia out of
(05:05):
the hole. That was this communication kind of switching a pick.
A lot of this is it's like basketball, and you
know you're do you go over the top of the
screen and stay with your guy? Do you switch it?
And that's kind of what a lot of this is.
And Ole miss is they're playing fast and they're doing
a lot of that, and so that's the thing. And
(05:27):
if you're you're gonna get burned, sometimes what you have
to do is burn them back.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
It's like when you played Tennessee, you know they're gonna
hit a big you gotta get exactly right.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
But Tom, to me, I'm not as worried about the
defense as I am the offense.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
And again, I don't know how good those four Georgia
Southern Wake Forest deferment. Don't know how good those guys were,
but they've only give them thirty four yards rushing.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
A game a game.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
That right, I'm saying is that because they get head
so early and you just had to have to throw
the run game away, or are they that good up front?
If they are, that's really going to pose a problem
because Kentucky's running game sets up their passing game.
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Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
One of the things I read about Owen Miss was
that this is probably the best team that Kipping has
had there in terms of line play on both sides
of the ball, and that goes back to what you
guys talked about.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Why they went to the portal. Yeah, and align.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Well, what I've read and interviews I've heard from people
who cover all miss I think if Kentucky they're they're offensively,
your best plan would be if they can have some
success running the ball and pass when they want to pass,
that the secondary is maybe. If there's a question mark
(07:05):
about their defense, it's probably the secondary. And they've got
their nickel back because listed as doubtful this week. Yeah,
and again think.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
The reason that is is because they just have him
been tested down the field.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Because they don't get time.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
It's kind of like the game two weeks ago for
Kentucky and South Carolina. The other teams haven't had time
to set and get the ball down the field because
their rush up run has been so good.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
But they'll figure something out.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I think we saw the tight end come more into
play last week for Kentucky. I kind of like there's
a play they have now where it was the first
play of the game. For instance, when you said Willie
was in the game to start in the game, he's
on one side and he comes in motion and all
he's doing is he's going to kick out the linebacker
and that makes a scene there because everybody else is
blocking their guys, but now you've got the extra.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Guy coming across.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
He kicks out, so now your running back can get
to that second level and that he's.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Up to him.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Think he's coming off a big game and you know
he's a you know, a big target that's more physical
now with the added weight that he put on, and
so maybe you can get him open on some quick
stuff if their secondary isn't as good as something they face,
perhaps from certainly Georgia. So you know they've push Hampton said, basically,
(08:21):
they know they have some limitations Kentucky. So each week
it's just it's not like you can kind of say,
here's what we're going to do stop us. Each week.
They've got to come up with, Okay, let's do these
shot things, ten things or whatever this week, and then
we got to come up with maybe a different ten
the next week.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Yeah, but I do think what will help is Jagger
his practice this week, so he could play.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I don't know if he'll.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Start or not, but at least you'll have another body
that you can give blows to. Some guys, you know,
you could always Dylan is a guy that's moved all across.
Dylan Ray that offensive front. It seems like he can
play guard or tackle. Now Alakai has gotten some snaps
so he can sell got last weekend the film got
So you've got now three guys that I think he's
really confident in putting him in there.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Weather is expected to be in a low seventies morning
showers which will help keep the temperature down, but the
humidity up in Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
So you know, you've got to just dig down into
your training.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Here's one air you look for where you could you
come up with a little bit of an edge. Their
kicker solid, but his career long as forty six, he's
I think attempted one and missed it from fifty plus.
Kentucky's kicker raiders fantastic right now, So Kentucky's, you know,
gets to the thirty five ish, you think he've got
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three in your pocket.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
The other thing is if la Ross punted once last
week and it was fifty eight with a big hangtown.
If if he's punted well enough to claim the job
this week, then then you're talking about maybe adding another
first down that they have to get on drives. If
your punter could be better, and the thing the reason
he didn't win the job is he was inconsistent as
(10:01):
far as his hangtime. And you know this league, you
put them flat and they're coming back at you.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Anything you can do in a slow that old miss offense,
even if it's forcing him to move the chains one
or two more times that you have to. I keep
thinking back as well. You guys talked a lot about communication.
I think it was two trips to go to Georgia,
and it was just a disaster of the defensive secondary
because they had and they admitted this later, their communications
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broke down. I don't know if you guys remember that,
but I remember hearing from the defensive backs telling us
that they kind of, you know, no pun intendent dropped
the ball on communications, and that cannot happen. Obviously, it
just can't happen, period, but especially with this team, because
I've got to think, Jeff, they're gonna throw the ball
rather quickly when they first start throwing.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
The ball miss.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how they decide
to attack and they stick with their regular offense.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Which is dark, going deep.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I mean, you look at these wide receivers and all
of them other double dimits and catches and I mean
yards sixteen, eighteen, twenty, all of them.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
So they like to go down the field.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
But the thing that Kentucky has going for them is
the is the is one is deaf, but also experience
out there. A lot of these guys have played in
these in that type of atmosphere before.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
They know that they can Zion childrens love it tie.
These guys are like Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
But I'm saying hand signals to each other that maybe
a younger guy would be like what he is, I
don't know what that is type of thing could possibly
help to.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Speed of the game, will dictate so much of that
what you were talking about. And you can practice, but
it's like Brad White said this week, there's no way to.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Replicate that practice.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Scout team and I remember, you know, they jumped on
Kentucky two years ago and the Kentucky kind of settled in,
found their rhythm. You remember the there was a Tennessee
game a few years ago, maybe like twenty one, where
they had like some simple screens that went for like
seventy five yard touchdowns too early. Then they kind of
got a hold of their communication and ended up being
(12:18):
a game that went right down to the wire. So
the I was I think these teams that play that fast,
they have kind of an echy trigger finger. They want
they want to go. If you can keep them from
scoring a while, they get antsy, and the longer you
can do that, maybe for a mistake they're not making many, but.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Hopefully it's like when you fight Mike Tyson. You can
last in the first round. Maybe that's a huge accomplishment.
Now you've got a chance. What Kentucky can't.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Do is let's say they win the toss, A missive
goes right down and scores. Kentucky gets the three missive
begins and they score. Now it's fourteen. Another that can't happen.
If that happens, it's just well.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I was about to bring that out because you were
talking on your show this week, Tom about that Tennessee game.
I think you were just referencing that that turned into
a track me. You know, Hey, Kentucky had to pass
in the air at the end. It might have won it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But as an entertaining as those are, I just don't
think the Wildcats are built that way. No, I think
the script for Kentucky is as good as Ole Miss is.
And say a quarterback in his third year running that system,
I'm thinking a good days if you hold them to
twenty four.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Maybe, Yeah, I think gets to the forties, that's it's
gonna be awful tough if you can really catch.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
So for Kentucky, you want to be able to get
some points on the board in the first half. You
don't have to be ahead, but you have to do
You just kind of stay connected to him, and then
at some point you you know, make a turnover, you
get to gain an extra possession and take advantage of that.
Anytime you get the ball on that side of the
fifty and now with a great kicker, get something out
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of it. Yeah, get to the you know, don't get
still as your drift stopped at the forty five. Get
it to the thirty five and at least get points.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
And and again it's one of those things too where
now I don't think Mark can take chances on fourth
down if you've got three, I don't think he will
take the point.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
You've got to get points, especially on the road.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Because you feel confident right getting it, yes.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
And you don't want to fall behind and let that
snowball start on the road. If they could play like
they did the last time they riddle the game with
Levis when he.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Came down to your second half.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah, that's all you want. You want a chance in
the fourth quarter to win the game. If they got that,
then I'm let me come They're gonna come through in
one of these against these top teams.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Let me ask both of you, what did you see
this past week, if anything, and I assume you did
in Rock Vandergrip, it tells you he's ready for his
first sec road start, especially in a situation like this.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Comfortable.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
One thing, I just thinking about watching him practice a
little bit this week. I was thinking in those first
couple of games, it was should have had a pick
six Southern miss Yeah, uh, South Carolina. He locked in
on a receiver and they got to pick six. I
don't remember anything really even close last week and the
week before. The only thing that came close to an
(15:13):
interception is just when a ball got batted up into
the air with the rush. The onslaught of the rush.
So I think he's maybe, you know, his accuracies, seemingly
really dialed in right now and whim sits a guy
would maybe help you in this matchup. Two their quarterbacks,
the two Kentucky quarterbacks have almost half of their ten
plus yard runs.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I just think, like I said, comfortability, and I think
him and the receivers are getting more and more and
more in tune with each other as the season goes in.
Bush even said that on Tuesday, was saying, I've seen
them taking steps each week.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
This is gonna be a huge step for them this week.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
This is gonna be I mean, it's not gonna be
an easy game, obviously, but the moral victories are gone now. Yeah,
they're gonna beat one of these top ten teams. Who
good of a team not to do it, and I
think they've got a shot to do it on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I think we still haven't seen all the clubs in
Bush Handy.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Yeah, And I don't think we've see the best game
played by these guys by far, No, No.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But I think a lot of that too is the
old line's still trying to find itself. And you think about,
you know, throwing to the tight ends, Well, if you
don't have to keep those guys in to block down
or chip, now you've got a chance. And maybe this
is the week that the tight ends come to the rescue.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I agree with what Tom said here. I really think
that Gavin Wimsett can be a difference maker in this
game because it's so off schedule of what Kentucky does.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
When he's in there.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Now you could say, up, run, run, run. Everybody's gonna think.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
You know, that kid can throw, and when he moves
and throws, he's got a gun. He made some really
nice passes.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
It'll be interesting to see if Obiss has any issue
with the with the fact of who they played so far,
Lane Kiffin said this week, I didn't think they had
been tested to the level they would have hoped for
this first SEC game. Bremer Kentucky last year had all
almost all their own non conference games were early and
then the first conference game was Vandy. They doubled them,
and then they dominated a bad Florida team, and then
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when they went down to Georgia it was a whole
different deal. So you hope there's a little bit of
that maybe for all of.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
This, whatever happens, Tom and Jeff will have it for
you down in Oxford, all being on the sidelines pregame.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Of course with Christy Logan and Jeremy Thanks so much
for joining us. For Tom and Jeff, Dick Gabriel. That's
it for the Wildcat Whip. See you next time.