November 2, 2024 • 16 mins
Wildcat Whip with Tom Leach, Jeff Piecoro & Dick Gabriel pre Tennessee.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Behind Kentucky Football, presented by District seventh Social.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to the Wildcat Whip Yet Gabriel with Tom Lee,
Jeff Papola. The guys will call the action when the
Wildcats take on Tennessee on Saturday night. Kentucky will be
limping into this one. You were a practice the other day.
We've seen the availability report. Uh, it's a star studded
sideline right now, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Any availability report looks like they headed out a roster, Yeah,
and a bunch of outs, including the leading tackler, de
Eric Jackson, the leading sacker, uh, JJ Weaver, starting tight end.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
DJ Waller's questionable, which I assumed meet tight end. You
said starting tight end, Oh yeah, Jim Davis Yeah, and
then DJ Waller's questionable, but I would assume that would
mean he would likely be out there. Diane Walker was probable.
So Kentucky's gonna have to to find a way to
(01:04):
come up with some kind of performance that we certainly
haven't seen the last couple of weeks, and that maybe
we saw down there four years ago, where you get
a couple of pick sixes, maybe you get a defensive
score of some type or you get a special team
score of some type. Because Tennessee hadn't given up twenty
(01:25):
points to anybody else season, Kentucky struggled to score. So
nothing about this on paper looks good for Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I think that of all the names you said they're
the one that really sticks out to me is Derick
Jackson because he's he's just so steady, and they really
haven't groomed a back up yet.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
They don't have anybody that's that's stepped up.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I mean, you can throw Alex Afari there, but then
you'd have to probably move, you know, it's just too much.
He's two forty five, Alex is two fifteen wet.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Maybe I think it's what I saw last week.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, but the thing that's amazing to me about the Tennessee,
if you want to flip it over, is you know
when they got Nico at quarterback. They're paying them all
that money. You're thinking, Okay, they're scoring all these points,
especially in the first five games anyway, you're thinking they're
throwing the ball everywhere.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
They are running it down people's throats. And that's why
when you come up with the linebacker and alignment and
this guy JJ not playing. Those are huge minuses for
Kentucky not having them to try to stop this running
game of Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Somebody's say on that outside and Doel Matthews, Tyree s Furby,
somebody needs to to grow up as a football player
in a hurry, and you'll play at a level that
they have not played at before.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
And that happens.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So if you guys had a chance to study much
video of Tennessee, because you assume that because they're running
the ball, it's not the jail break offense chucking it
down the field, but you can still go up tempo and.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Run the football really tempo. They go up tempo, they
spread out.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, they spread you out, but when by spreading out,
they're opening running lanes. And when you've got two running
backs like they do, you got to let them eat man.
I mean, Niko's only thrown six touchdown PA and he's
got four interceptions, So that tells you their best running
back go with thirteen.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I think teen touchdowns seventeen seventeen. Yeah, I knew it's
a ton. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I would think it would be a big plus if
the Corners could play a game like they played at
Ole miss. Yes, where they covered well and tackled well,
Yes they did. And if you could then count on
them to be able to cover those guys out really
wide and then be able to you know, have a
little more help, you know, in against the run. But
(03:32):
you know, the corners, I don't. I don't think anybody
really tackled particularly well last week right now?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, I mean, if you look at last week's game,
what Auburn did Tennessee run? Now I'm talking about running
the football wise, Tennessee is two steps beyond them. Tennessee
is maybe the best running team of the SEC's how
good they are. And then and it's just and they're
huge upfront. I mean they're They're Tennessee. They're always big.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Up They do have a young quarterback. So if you
could have some success against the run and at them
in most third and long situations once in a while,
that's where you maybe get a mistake.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
That's exactly what I was getting. If you can make
them one dimensional, which nobody really has. But you know
the thing is, once they've upped the competition level, once
they got into playing the good SEC teams, their points were,
who were they was going fifty a game?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Now down to thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
There's a stat I was putting it in the notes,
and like in the first quarter they've outscored people like
an eighty seven to nine. You know what it is
against conference teams ten to nine. There it is.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well, you mentioned size. Jeff Mark Soups mentions in his pregame,
he mentions in his postgame talked about it not this
week but week prior, referencing Florida and Auburn size on
the front line and the d line for Kentucky, which
had been playing so well now not only banged up
(04:53):
but overpowered by size. And these are not just fat guys,
but pretty good athletes.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
They're running up again, they are. And you look at
Kentucky's defensive line where a guy like Josiah Hayes was
hurt the lead up to the season or in the
off season, and there's a guy that's like three fifteen
or whatever that would rotate in with silver at the nose.
Instead you got Kendrick Gilbert, who's going to be a
good player, but as a red shirt frashman. That's yeah,
(05:21):
that's just you know, an example. Now, you know you've
got Ribke and Oxen Dine, Althotle Oxes like two seventy
five doesn't look at though, does he now? And then
you know on the other side you have Dion and
Saunders behind him as good size. But you know that
you know that second line there's a drop off in
terms of just the uh the waight.
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Speaker 2 (06:04):
Tell me a little bit about the quarterback situation, and
I think it's interesting, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You've talked a lot about on my.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Show in the postgame about how you're not comfortable with
running two quarterbacks in and out, but you've also told
me for years you don't think the quarterback position should
be treated differently from other positions, where if you don't perform,
you're out, somebody else's back in. What's the difference in
the way you see, Well, it's the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
So.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
It's not a black white thing. It's just you got
guys who are friends of Rocks. You got guys that
are friends of Gavin's. We had guys who were friends
of Randy's, friends of Terry's, friends of Doug. You know,
you name the quarterback back then Tommy, and so you
get to meet buddies with them and stuff, and you
get a good rapport with him. Then you bring the
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other guy in and he likes that guy better. And
it's just it's a different chemistry that you have with
each quarter back. They tell you that they try to
run the same offense, but it's not because it's totally different.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
It can't be.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I mean, he's got to be tailored to their.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Skills, right, So what what's the one thing that coaches
always tell us tom especially in the offensive side, is
we we like to do the plays that he can throw.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
And what yeh, yeah, so you got guys that okay.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
For instance, Gavin is a really good deep passer, not
so great at short passes.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
As we saw at the goal line.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
That ball has to be away two seconds before he
did because you have to throw Dane open, not wait
till he gets open and throw it to him. It's
an interception. They return it. The game's over at that point.
So he throws a great depat, but he throws a
great deep ball. Conversely, Brock kind of the same way.
Brock needs to learn how to have some touch on
(07:52):
the short passes. A game last week I think was Macklin.
He throws and he turns and the ball goes his
hands because it was like shot out of a cannon
and all you have to do is toss it out there.
And so their strength to every different at Bow for instance,
Bow's more of a middle of the field guy. If
bo Allen's out there, uh, you know he's a guy
(08:13):
that's more middle of the field because that's what he's
comfortence we did in high school.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You watched this guy's come through here in other places,
and you just, uh have a greater appreciation for just
how good Tim Couch was at his basket. Put the
ball in the right spot with touch or with heat
when needed.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
That's when people say he can make all the throws.
That's what you're talking about. But you know what I
just flashed on this. You remember when Kentucky goes down
there with Steven Johnson as the starter, and Steven.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Was a good deep ball guy. Yeah, and could swing
it out.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
But for whatever reason, he just had a really difficult
time connecting with CJ.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Conrad front of drag or remember it became almost humorous.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes, almost out of it, just just beyond the tips
and it seemed like all night it was there against Tennessee,
and I think CJ hurt himself diving for a pass
over the middle, so I guess, yeah, hqv's got his
own Still.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Remember one of my favorite Kentucky football moments is Steven
Johnson running out of the locker room when we thought
he was yeah, and against Tennessee against jumps into the
rushing in that game that was the previous year down
in Knoxville four forty three. I remember it and yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Johnson had both shoulders damage and that was also it's
one of the most famous video clips in UK football
history of him leaping into the zone.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But Dick I gets part of an SEC TV promo.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah I wanted.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
What I was going to say is we all remember
Dusty when he was quarterback here, and Dusty was a
fine quarterback, but what coach wanted was somebody with a
cannon of an arm because he wanted to get that
ball out to the flats like that, take the snap
and turn and fire.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Jared had that.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Dusty did it, and so right before the season he says, boom,
Jared's going to be the startup quarterback. Dusty, You're going
to be the backup and the rest obviously is history.
But but that's that's a difference. Yeah, you know, and
like I said, when you look at that offense, he
wasn't going to change that for the quarterback. The quarterback
had to be tailored to work into that. You know
(10:17):
that the framework of that offense.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Well, I guess this Tennessee defense and again, you guys
have laid it out just how good it is. It
feasted on substandard competition. But speaking of feasting, Pacoro's making
his order.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I don't see Kentucky successfully moving the ball down. I
feel like ten twelve, thirteen plays.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Which it has done a few times.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I don't know that you can sustain that against Tennessee.
You're gonna make a mistake at some point.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You're probably right. But think back to the Georgia game,
and it's true they were able to do enough of
that to get in position to kick field goals and
have a chance to win the game. And you get
Demi sum Ol karnbe back this week, and he's a
guy that that's a great point. I assume he's getting back.
Looks like he is on the availability report, and if
(11:09):
he's there, that's a guy that they have a higher
trust factor in in terms of, you know, doing all
the plays and pass plays and run plays, and that
he won't make a mistake. And he was a guy
that got a lot of tough yards in that game.
And then the Old Miss game when Kentucky was the
different Kentucky, the better Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
In September, they're missing Maxwell Hairston, They're missing some other
d backs. Guys have been forced to grow up quickly,
haven't they.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
You know, it's every coach today, it's next man up.
Every player says it. You're not gonna learn anything. Stand
on the sidelines. You're not gonna learn anything playing scout
team or you know. The only way you're gonna get
better is playing against the best, and this is one
of the best. But I want to go back to
one thing when you guys are talking about Demi, we
talked about it last week. First down killed on both
(12:00):
sides of the ball. Auburn was always second and short,
third and short Kentucky second and nine second and ten
second and fifteen and then and then when it got
to third, it's always third and long. Whereas they were
it seemed like they were third in the yard or
list every single time.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Five three first half forgot what it felt like the
whole second, the.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Whole second half, and Demi gives you that escapability type
of thing, wriggle room, whatever you want to call it.
But again, they've they got to stay ahead of the chains.
They cannot get behind the chains against well time.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You mentioned Dingle being out, but that doesn't leave the
cupboard bear.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
When it comes to tight ends.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
The problem is can you send them out or do
they need to stay in and block or at the
very least chip and then maybe they're a little bit
late getting out there because dang key can't do everything.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
They've tried a couple of routes with Anderson in the
last couple of games. One was the trick play kind
of that they did done near the goal line, which
didn't work, which works perfectly the same play when the
Bears went for two the next day against the Commanders.
But you have Komari, you have Catis on a fourth
(13:08):
down play caught at a catch and run for like
twenty two yards. Willie Rodriguez down at ole miss set
a catch and run for twenty five yards. Yeah, you know,
if they can, if the line can hold up a
little better and give him the chance to put the
you know, a tight end into a pattern, then those
guys there's been We've seen some flashes of what they
(13:29):
could do with it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Barrion Brown needs to come up big and run discipline routes.
Dane Key, like I said, can't do it all, but
he'll force double teams, I guess because everybody is now
doubling Dane.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And that leaves somebody single covered. Tennessee is a team
that will play man on you as well.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We saw more of that than Kentucky had seen from Auburn.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Right and again, if he get if he get just
enough time in the then you can run double moves
and things like that, which you have to do.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
It's man coverage. Ye.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Barian has to come up bread. I really think that
they're Their kicking game has to step it up. And
I'm talking about punting as well. Yep, yeah, I think punting.
They're losing about seven or eight yards.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
That's big each time.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
You know they're only in the thirty nine to forty
range instead.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Of first down if you're up correct, closer to the
LA forties, and.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know it's going to be a full house, it's
gonna be nuts.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
You got the lights show. But go back uniforms for ten, Yeah,
to see those things.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Go back and look at the box score from twenty
twenty when Kentucky went down there and broke it open
in the second ad one thirty four to seven. It's
really weird to see the attendance figure for Nayland Stadium
that night.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Twenty two thousand because of COVID.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, it took me. I had the same look on
my face and you just dan. I thought, had they
really given up?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And would they would they really report that number?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But then, of course cod I remember.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
That one year when it was at COVID.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
We Kentucky went down there and it was what three
quarters full.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I've never seen that fans were upset with them. Yes,
they're not out of seven them right now?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Who's anybody that that sticks out in tomorrow or Saturday
in the Breeders' Cup races? Obviously Torpedo Anna, the shortest
choice of any race at four to five in the
morning line.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Uh you like this name? In the second race, Breederscrip
Race on Friday, American Bikini Okay, Japanese two year old Philly.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I want to see and I haven't seen him yet
in you know, I want to see City of Troy.
Obviously Justify in the son of Justify, and Baffert was
talking about and he said, now he doesn't remind me.
Somebody asked me, is he yan you have Justified? I
said no, he really more reminds me of Galileo.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah. So the dance like kids of the distance and stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Any beautiful horse I want to It's going to take
a special horse to beat him.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
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Speaker 2 (15:46):
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Speaker 3 (16:08):
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Speaker 2 (16:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to the Wildcat Whip Yet Gabriel with Tom Lee,
Jeff Papola. The guys will call the action when the
Wildcats take on Tennessee on Saturday night. Kentucky will be
limping into this one. You were a practice the other day.
We've seen the availability report. Uh, it's a star studded
sideline right now, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Any availability report looks like they headed out a roster, Yeah,
and a bunch of outs, including the leading tackler, de
Eric Jackson, the leading sacker, uh, JJ Weaver, starting tight end.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
DJ Waller's questionable, which I assumed meet tight end. You
said starting tight end, Oh yeah, Jim Davis Yeah, and
then DJ Waller's questionable, but I would assume that would
mean he would likely be out there. Diane Walker was probable.
So Kentucky's gonna have to to find a way to
(01:04):
come up with some kind of performance that we certainly
haven't seen the last couple of weeks, and that maybe
we saw down there four years ago, where you get
a couple of pick sixes, maybe you get a defensive
score of some type or you get a special team
score of some type. Because Tennessee hadn't given up twenty
(01:25):
points to anybody else season, Kentucky struggled to score. So
nothing about this on paper looks good for Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I think that of all the names you said they're
the one that really sticks out to me is Derick
Jackson because he's he's just so steady, and they really
haven't groomed a back up yet.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
They don't have anybody that's that's stepped up.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I mean, you can throw Alex Afari there, but then
you'd have to probably move, you know, it's just too much.
He's two forty five, Alex is two fifteen wet.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Maybe I think it's what I saw last week.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, but the thing that's amazing to me about the Tennessee,
if you want to flip it over, is you know
when they got Nico at quarterback. They're paying them all
that money. You're thinking, Okay, they're scoring all these points,
especially in the first five games anyway, you're thinking they're
throwing the ball everywhere.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
They are running it down people's throats. And that's why
when you come up with the linebacker and alignment and
this guy JJ not playing. Those are huge minuses for
Kentucky not having them to try to stop this running
game of Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Somebody's say on that outside and Doel Matthews, Tyree s Furby,
somebody needs to to grow up as a football player
in a hurry, and you'll play at a level that
they have not played at before.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
And that happens.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So if you guys had a chance to study much
video of Tennessee, because you assume that because they're running
the ball, it's not the jail break offense chucking it
down the field, but you can still go up tempo and.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Run the football really tempo. They go up tempo, they
spread out.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, they spread you out, but when by spreading out,
they're opening running lanes. And when you've got two running
backs like they do, you got to let them eat man.
I mean, Niko's only thrown six touchdown PA and he's
got four interceptions, So that tells you their best running
back go with thirteen.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I think teen touchdowns seventeen seventeen. Yeah, I knew it's
a ton. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I would think it would be a big plus if
the Corners could play a game like they played at
Ole miss. Yes, where they covered well and tackled well,
Yes they did. And if you could then count on
them to be able to cover those guys out really
wide and then be able to you know, have a
little more help, you know, in against the run. But
(03:32):
you know, the corners, I don't. I don't think anybody
really tackled particularly well last week right now?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, I mean, if you look at last week's game,
what Auburn did Tennessee run? Now I'm talking about running
the football wise, Tennessee is two steps beyond them. Tennessee
is maybe the best running team of the SEC's how
good they are. And then and it's just and they're
huge upfront. I mean they're They're Tennessee. They're always big.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Up They do have a young quarterback. So if you
could have some success against the run and at them
in most third and long situations once in a while,
that's where you maybe get a mistake.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
That's exactly what I was getting. If you can make
them one dimensional, which nobody really has. But you know
the thing is, once they've upped the competition level, once
they got into playing the good SEC teams, their points were,
who were they was going fifty a game?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Now down to thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
There's a stat I was putting it in the notes,
and like in the first quarter they've outscored people like
an eighty seven to nine. You know what it is
against conference teams ten to nine. There it is.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well, you mentioned size. Jeff Mark Soups mentions in his pregame,
he mentions in his postgame talked about it not this
week but week prior, referencing Florida and Auburn size on
the front line and the d line for Kentucky, which
had been playing so well now not only banged up
(04:53):
but overpowered by size. And these are not just fat guys,
but pretty good athletes.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
They're running up again, they are. And you look at
Kentucky's defensive line where a guy like Josiah Hayes was
hurt the lead up to the season or in the
off season, and there's a guy that's like three fifteen
or whatever that would rotate in with silver at the nose.
Instead you got Kendrick Gilbert, who's going to be a
good player, but as a red shirt frashman. That's yeah,
(05:21):
that's just you know, an example. Now, you know you've
got Ribke and Oxen Dine, Althotle Oxes like two seventy
five doesn't look at though, does he now? And then
you know on the other side you have Dion and
Saunders behind him as good size. But you know that
you know that second line there's a drop off in
terms of just the uh the waight.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
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Speaker 2 (06:04):
Tell me a little bit about the quarterback situation, and
I think it's interesting, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You've talked a lot about on my.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Show in the postgame about how you're not comfortable with
running two quarterbacks in and out, but you've also told
me for years you don't think the quarterback position should
be treated differently from other positions, where if you don't perform,
you're out, somebody else's back in. What's the difference in
the way you see, Well, it's the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
So.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
It's not a black white thing. It's just you got
guys who are friends of Rocks. You got guys that
are friends of Gavin's. We had guys who were friends
of Randy's, friends of Terry's, friends of Doug. You know,
you name the quarterback back then Tommy, and so you
get to meet buddies with them and stuff, and you
get a good rapport with him. Then you bring the
(06:53):
other guy in and he likes that guy better. And
it's just it's a different chemistry that you have with
each quarter back. They tell you that they try to
run the same offense, but it's not because it's totally different.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
It can't be.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I mean, he's got to be tailored to their.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Skills, right, So what what's the one thing that coaches
always tell us tom especially in the offensive side, is
we we like to do the plays that he can throw.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
And what yeh, yeah, so you got guys that okay.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
For instance, Gavin is a really good deep passer, not
so great at short passes.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
As we saw at the goal line.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
That ball has to be away two seconds before he
did because you have to throw Dane open, not wait
till he gets open and throw it to him. It's
an interception. They return it. The game's over at that point.
So he throws a great depat, but he throws a
great deep ball. Conversely, Brock kind of the same way.
Brock needs to learn how to have some touch on
(07:52):
the short passes. A game last week I think was Macklin.
He throws and he turns and the ball goes his
hands because it was like shot out of a cannon
and all you have to do is toss it out there.
And so their strength to every different at Bow for instance,
Bow's more of a middle of the field guy. If
bo Allen's out there, uh, you know he's a guy
(08:13):
that's more middle of the field because that's what he's
comfortence we did in high school.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You watched this guy's come through here in other places,
and you just, uh have a greater appreciation for just
how good Tim Couch was at his basket. Put the
ball in the right spot with touch or with heat
when needed.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
That's when people say he can make all the throws.
That's what you're talking about. But you know what I
just flashed on this. You remember when Kentucky goes down
there with Steven Johnson as the starter, and Steven.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Was a good deep ball guy. Yeah, and could swing
it out.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
But for whatever reason, he just had a really difficult
time connecting with CJ.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Conrad front of drag or remember it became almost humorous.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes, almost out of it, just just beyond the tips
and it seemed like all night it was there against Tennessee,
and I think CJ hurt himself diving for a pass
over the middle, so I guess, yeah, hqv's got his
own Still.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Remember one of my favorite Kentucky football moments is Steven
Johnson running out of the locker room when we thought
he was yeah, and against Tennessee against jumps into the
rushing in that game that was the previous year down
in Knoxville four forty three. I remember it and yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Johnson had both shoulders damage and that was also it's
one of the most famous video clips in UK football
history of him leaping into the zone.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But Dick I gets part of an SEC TV promo.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah I wanted.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
What I was going to say is we all remember
Dusty when he was quarterback here, and Dusty was a
fine quarterback, but what coach wanted was somebody with a
cannon of an arm because he wanted to get that
ball out to the flats like that, take the snap
and turn and fire.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Jared had that.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Dusty did it, and so right before the season he says, boom,
Jared's going to be the startup quarterback. Dusty, You're going
to be the backup and the rest obviously is history.
But but that's that's a difference. Yeah, you know, and
like I said, when you look at that offense, he
wasn't going to change that for the quarterback. The quarterback
had to be tailored to work into that. You know
(10:17):
that the framework of that offense.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Well, I guess this Tennessee defense and again, you guys
have laid it out just how good it is. It
feasted on substandard competition. But speaking of feasting, Pacoro's making
his order.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I don't see Kentucky successfully moving the ball down. I
feel like ten twelve, thirteen plays.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Which it has done a few times.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I don't know that you can sustain that against Tennessee.
You're gonna make a mistake at some point.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You're probably right. But think back to the Georgia game,
and it's true they were able to do enough of
that to get in position to kick field goals and
have a chance to win the game. And you get
Demi sum Ol karnbe back this week, and he's a
guy that that's a great point. I assume he's getting back.
Looks like he is on the availability report, and if
(11:09):
he's there, that's a guy that they have a higher
trust factor in in terms of, you know, doing all
the plays and pass plays and run plays, and that
he won't make a mistake. And he was a guy
that got a lot of tough yards in that game.
And then the Old Miss game when Kentucky was the
different Kentucky, the better Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
In September, they're missing Maxwell Hairston, They're missing some other
d backs. Guys have been forced to grow up quickly,
haven't they.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
You know, it's every coach today, it's next man up.
Every player says it. You're not gonna learn anything. Stand
on the sidelines. You're not gonna learn anything playing scout
team or you know. The only way you're gonna get
better is playing against the best, and this is one
of the best. But I want to go back to
one thing when you guys are talking about Demi, we
talked about it last week. First down killed on both
(12:00):
sides of the ball. Auburn was always second and short,
third and short Kentucky second and nine second and ten
second and fifteen and then and then when it got
to third, it's always third and long. Whereas they were
it seemed like they were third in the yard or
list every single time.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Five three first half forgot what it felt like the
whole second, the.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Whole second half, and Demi gives you that escapability type
of thing, wriggle room, whatever you want to call it.
But again, they've they got to stay ahead of the chains.
They cannot get behind the chains against well time.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You mentioned Dingle being out, but that doesn't leave the
cupboard bear.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
When it comes to tight ends.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
The problem is can you send them out or do
they need to stay in and block or at the
very least chip and then maybe they're a little bit
late getting out there because dang key can't do everything.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
They've tried a couple of routes with Anderson in the
last couple of games. One was the trick play kind
of that they did done near the goal line, which
didn't work, which works perfectly the same play when the
Bears went for two the next day against the Commanders.
But you have Komari, you have Catis on a fourth
(13:08):
down play caught at a catch and run for like
twenty two yards. Willie Rodriguez down at ole miss set
a catch and run for twenty five yards. Yeah, you know,
if they can, if the line can hold up a
little better and give him the chance to put the
you know, a tight end into a pattern, then those
guys there's been We've seen some flashes of what they
(13:29):
could do with it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Barrion Brown needs to come up big and run discipline routes.
Dane Key, like I said, can't do it all, but
he'll force double teams, I guess because everybody is now
doubling Dane.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And that leaves somebody single covered. Tennessee is a team
that will play man on you as well.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We saw more of that than Kentucky had seen from Auburn.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Right and again, if he get if he get just
enough time in the then you can run double moves
and things like that, which you have to do.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
It's man coverage. Ye.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Barian has to come up bread. I really think that
they're Their kicking game has to step it up. And
I'm talking about punting as well. Yep, yeah, I think punting.
They're losing about seven or eight yards.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
That's big each time.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
You know they're only in the thirty nine to forty
range instead.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Of first down if you're up correct, closer to the
LA forties, and.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know it's going to be a full house, it's
gonna be nuts.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
You got the lights show. But go back uniforms for ten, Yeah,
to see those things.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Go back and look at the box score from twenty
twenty when Kentucky went down there and broke it open
in the second ad one thirty four to seven. It's
really weird to see the attendance figure for Nayland Stadium
that night.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Twenty two thousand because of COVID.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, it took me. I had the same look on
my face and you just dan. I thought, had they
really given up?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And would they would they really report that number?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But then, of course cod I remember.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
That one year when it was at COVID.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
We Kentucky went down there and it was what three
quarters full.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I've never seen that fans were upset with them. Yes,
they're not out of seven them right now?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Who's anybody that that sticks out in tomorrow or Saturday
in the Breeders' Cup races? Obviously Torpedo Anna, the shortest
choice of any race at four to five in the
morning line.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Uh you like this name? In the second race, Breederscrip
Race on Friday, American Bikini Okay, Japanese two year old Philly.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I want to see and I haven't seen him yet
in you know, I want to see City of Troy.
Obviously Justify in the son of Justify, and Baffert was
talking about and he said, now he doesn't remind me.
Somebody asked me, is he yan you have Justified? I
said no, he really more reminds me of Galileo.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah. So the dance like kids of the distance and stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Any beautiful horse I want to It's going to take
a special horse to beat him.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
That's well.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I interviewed Ellis Star the uber Capper Mecua Base and
one of the horses he gave out next and he backed.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
N that's coming up next.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Your s No, no, no, stay with me, Stay with
And I know it's very confusing.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
But uh, this horse.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It was a it was a claimer, believe it or not.
But just when he wins, well that's true.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
But when he wins, he rocks. I mean, so I'll
throw some money on him. Why not lung Shot Special
first Free year Step Race on Saturday and pleasant. That's
gonna do it for now.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
For Tom Leach and Jeff Bicorol Dick Gabriel, that's the
wildcat whip and we'll see him next week
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