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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Behind Kentucky Football, presented by District seven Social.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome to the Wildcat, whip Cats and Cards coming up Saturday.
Kentucky's owned this series of late It's interesting time now.
This thing is swung back and forth. It is a rivalry,
but each school has had its opportunity used to own
it for a while.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's never been like Red Blue, Red Blue. You know,
it's been very streak.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yeah, the other streets look at a couple of things
in preparing. The winning score is usually pretty high.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I mean it's either been blowouts or it's been a
high scoring game like last year where I think it
was a thirty eight to thirty one. I mean, Kentucky
hasn't scored above twenty and anybody in the SEC. This
is the only other power for opponent they will have played.
I looked up the last time the winning score was
twenty or less in this game was nineteen ninety five.
(00:54):
So it's gonna be interesting. Can the new QB.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Who's the coach? In ninety five?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
That would have been Bill Curry and.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Ron Yes Cooper, Yep, yep, yep, thirteen and it was
thirteen to ten that year.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
I think that The reason for that tom is because,
especially like a game like tomorrow, Kentucky has nothing to lose. Yeah,
I mean, so you pull everything out. Mark Stoop says, look,
score every drive. I don't care if you score in
one play or it takes twenty plays. Score every drive.
Don't try to feed you. But there's times when, because
(01:28):
of who people are, you have to make sure they
stay in the game. Not this game. This game you
play to win, you double reverse pass whatever. I think
you see a wide open game of posts, and Louisville
already does that. If you ever watch any other games,
they do all kinds of tricks plaze during a game.
Kentucky's brought them out every once in a while, and
most of the time they've been successful.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, brom is known for that though, I mean he's
all with Purdue or Louisville. He's got quite the interesting playbook.
And of course they practice that a lot. You gotta
wonder how often did they practice.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
The fancy stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, they certainly you've got to do that to in
this sport, to have the confidence to run. And I
don't know how much of any of that stuff they
may try with a new quarterback. It's the interesting dynamic
to this matchup a true freshman making his first start
(02:20):
in the governor's company. Jared started as a red shirt freshman,
but there's never been a true freshman make his first
start in this game for Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
As somebody told me today that I think.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
It was Teddy Bridgewater maybe as a true freshman that
came in for an injured Louisville quarterback. I can't remember
who it was and spark Louisville to a victory. So
it's been done the other way, maybe with a freshman QB.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
What do you guys learn, if anything? Watching Cutter last
week down in Texas. I just thought that.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
The biggest thing that I learned was that it wasn't
too big for him. I didn't think he'd ready because
he came from a small school, you know, and he
didn't play the Trinities and the Frederick Douglasses every week.
He played small schools and a lot of times the
speed of the game is so totally different. But this kid,
it didn't phase.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Him at all.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I mean, he got crunched a couple times. To him,
he gets sacked four times. He's on the run everything,
he jumps right back up and he's the cool thing
that I saw. And I think Tom and I talked
about this when you were going in. He was talking
to the other team like guys were like helping him
up after they sacked him and stuff, and he was
that doesn't happen with freshman because usually you're wide eyed
out there, but he was.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
He was cool. Cool.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Look at his first play. They fake it to the
left and he turns and there's a Texas defensive end
in his face sacking him. Very first play, next option
or next play. You've got multiple options on the on
the play, so you know, if you some some freshman
(03:58):
in that situation, by let me get a quick easy
completion here and settle my nerves down. And he throws
the bomb to Barry and Brown and completes a big
pass and then Kentucky, you know, made some big plays.
Unfortunate a couple of them were wiped out by penalties,
but you know where he moved around in the pocket,
kept a play alive by looking downfield. The one pass
he threw that was brought back to Willie Rodriguez dropped
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it in perfectly in among some of those burnt orange jerseys,
and those are you know, big time plays, and if
he can continue to make those in this game, I
would have to think Louisville's really gonna heat him up.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah. And then that one he hit Mackin right on
the notch right, I mean, right in his chest and
he dropped it. I keep thinking, I've watched that play
probably ten or twelve times. And when you're talking about
Willie the bomb, no the bomb to Olbarian Barrion, and
I keep wondering, why did he go out of bounce?
Why did he not turn to his left and go upfield?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
There was nobody in front of him, no one.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
And I keep what was he doing? It's interesting when
I watched it again again. You've got ribbon, you don't
want to get hit. I mean that that hurts, but
you know what tomorrow, You know, we used to do
things that make it not hurt that you're not allowed
to do it anymore. But tomorrow you just play. I mean,
because this is it. And I thought a cool thing.
(05:14):
Uh did did you hear Eli? I think Dick was
there Eli yesterday talking to the media like yeah, he said, yeah, yeah,
well he did play offensive line.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Now Eli was on the sideline of Texas.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yes Eli said, I keep reminding. Everybody stood up and
he spoke to the team. He goes, this is your
last Monday practice. Tomorrow's the last Tuesday. Then you know,
then it's the last Wednesday. This is it. We don't
have a bowl game. This is the last couple of
times where ever the ball each other again. Yeah. So
that's that really puts it in perspective for players when
you think of that way, and it kind of makes
you want to dig down even deeper for this game.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
As that was walking down like you would have spread
it on ahead. You and I were finally got down
to the field, and but we're one hundred and twenty
yards from the locker room, and so guys went right.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I told you to go left.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
You had sprinted on because you had to be on
the air first. And is I'm walking down past at
the fifty yard line, just Texas players sitting there.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yes, his backside taking it in, taking it in.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I think it was henter hell Hill tight end who
had a tremendous year, but his last game.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
In last game, he was good too. Man.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Just sit there and you just wow, Well, you think
of the first time you stepped on there, You think
of all the practices you've had on that field and
the catch you made over there, and the time you
got hit over there, and you're just sitting there taking
it all in for the last time.
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Speaker 2 (06:57):
One thing that bothered me as much as any down
in Austin, and it cannot carry over into this game
is poor tackling. Now that'll have credit well penalties always,
but it's to me it kind of was a glaring
error or series of errors in Austin.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I know Texas has really good running backs and they
did a great job of breaking tackles, running through tackles
and all that, and I heard Van Hios talk. They
talked to Tom and I think to me about how
much they missed Deeric Jackson and it hurt them tremendously
because he's great against the run.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
But JEF. That's something that cannot happen on Saturday. I mean,
you're just giving up free yardage.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Yeah, Lowell's offensive line I think is vastly improved over
what it was last year. And they always seem to
have a really good running back. You know, that's one
thing that through the last ten twelve years they've been
able to do is find a guy that can really run.
And they've got that this year. And they're pretty deep.
But I tell you what, they can throw the ball
all over the field. Man, he's already thrown over three.
That's it's fair.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Talking to UH coach Stoops for the pregame and he
said that, know the fact, Louisville's got a seventh year
quarterback and Kentucky's got a quarterback making his first start
as a true freshman. So that's quite a contrast in
the two at the quarterback position. And you know that's
what's so exciting potentially about this game for Kentucky that
(08:28):
at the end of a season has been very disappointing,
You hope you can find a way to create some
hope for next season, some reason to be optimistic, not
only for your fans but for your players. I mean,
some of them, you know, are could no doubt contemplating transfers.
And if Cutter Bowley were to come out and play
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really well and maybe Lee Kentucky to a victory. But
even just if he didn't do that, if he played
especially well, but if if both of those things happened,
then all of a sudden, you're thinking, Okay, maybe we
have something here. Let's this could be exciting.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Jamaran will Cox is a red shirt freshman. Willie Rodriguez
is a true freshman. Harley Gilmore is a true freshman.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Every receiver on the team can come back right a
wide receiver. Every one of them is not a senior yet.
I don't know if if Dane Stays or Bear, but
they're all juniors.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Jeff, you've been in those meeting rooms, game planning things
like that. Let me ask you this, describe for our
listeners what it's been.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Like and what it's going to keep being like. This
week from Cutter Bully as the guy who knows going in,
he's the QB one.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
He sits at the front of the room, he gets
most of the reps in practice. Stoops has talked about
how difficult it is to prepare more than one QB.
So tell everybody about that, about you know what that
does for a kid mentally and just the machinations of
all that, how that works.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Well, you know you want that guy, whoever that is.
And here it's Cutter to say, hey, guys, yo, it's
different now because they put everything for them is now
in an iPad, whereas we had to go actually go
to Bill Ransdell's room and watch Tate, you know, after
after you know, practice was over and we lifted weights
and we all went to eat. Then after we're done,
(10:14):
he eats, Hey, it's Wednesday night. Come on at nine
o'clock in my room. We're gonna watch the whatever, two
lane game, whatever. And so Cutter has to do that.
It didn't have to do it that way, but he
has to exert his leadership to these guys because Brock
has been the leader. Brock can still be the leader.
It's just that now this guy's taking the number one's
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You carry yourself differently when you're the number one than
you are the number two. That's something that and it's
and I think it's hard for an eighteen year old
kid when you're playing with guys that are twenty one
and twenty two years old.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
But they're looking to him.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah, but they're looking at him to see, well, that's
one of the cool things. Like Eli and some of
the other lineman has said, he got in the huddle
and it wasn't like a deer in the headlights. Here
here's the other thing that's crazy. Now, so plays used
to be five words long. When I played, everything was
and when Tom would you played a forty six is
still a forty six? Four guy goes to the six hull, right,
(11:11):
two guy goes to.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
The four hole.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Whatever. But now so now you're an eighteen year old kid,
your first start, and for fifteen seconds, okay for ham Bush,
Hampton's gonna be in his ear going, okay, here's the right,
here's the play, you know, and it's and it's a
zipper right for eighty seven Wingo Blue Band. As what
(11:33):
I'm saying is for the first time, he has to
listen to all this and each of those words has
a different meaning for the different positions on the teams.
Then he has to convey what he just heard as
the clock is running down and for fifteen seconds, and
then he turns to the huddle or to the guys
on the line, and they and he has to repeat
that perfectly. That's what people don't realize well, and he's
(11:56):
got to recognize. Then he looks up, there's seven seconds
left on a clock. Do I go with this? Played
Dwight Audible? Looks like they're in his zone. Looks like
this guy's coming off the left side. I got to
move this guy from the right over to the left.
All within that level last seven seconds. It is a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Makes you think back though, when Scangarella is here and
have those NFL style calls.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It took thirty seconds to get out of your mouth.
So that's a great point. I even thought about that.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
That to me is the hardest thing for him.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Gonna be interesting how he processes all of that, because
I would think if you're on the Louisville side, you're
the dif's of coordinator, you're certainly gonna find out early
how he handles pressure, because he's, you know, a true
freshman in an atmosphere where it's you know, conducive to
producing a lot of nerves.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
You know, maybe you know Cutters one of those guys
that is calm in the more stressful the situation. You know,
I don't know him well enough to know that kind
of thing, but I would think you can speak to
this having played at that level. But there's two ways
you lead, uh, and one of them is just you know,
the command of the huddle and the president you have,
(13:03):
and some guys can do that as a freshman. The
other way is making plays, and you really need to
be able to do both the best case scenario. And
he certainly looked like he could make the plays. And uh, we'll,
you know, see as time goes by. Does he have
that kind of you know, Derrick Ramsey, Tim Cowches kind
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of swagger swagger. Then the other thing you think is
gonna happen. Brad White is so good at this is
he shows one thing and then pre snap you're you're
seeing one thing. Okay, it looks like the two safeties
are on the hash. Okay, so it's his own.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
So now I call out the play and then I
do my the first time, and all of a sudden,
now the safety is coming up, the other safety is
going back. Oh it's not it's not a Tampa two.
Now it's it looks like now they're they're switching in
demand and I've only got six seconds. I know I
can't move anybody in six seconds. But what play can
I go to? That's demand play that counters what they're doing.
(14:00):
That is the little chess game that'll be playing.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But you oftentimes see the quarterbacks turn and make hand gestures.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Oh yeah, you know, and that'll tell them you know,
we're going to uh, we're checking off.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
We had we had a hand was a stop which
is just six yards, turnaround right, stop and go fist
fist stop one out two, curl three post four, corner five.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
He remembers all that stuff. I can't remember where he
put his car key.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Exactly, but that those are the little things that bill
you know. You turn around and he would do it behind
his back you see and go oh yes. And then
there's other things, you know, a go on YouTube or
whatever and try to find a thing about Greg Maddox
and pitching. It's the same thing where he if he
caught the ball this way, it was a fastball. If
he caught it into his chairl everybody, what you're doing.
(14:52):
I'm holding my hands at the way he catches the ball.
If he hit his nose, yeah, if he went to
his nose, it's a curveball, so.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
He calling his playing correct.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
So what pitches Bill would do or or whoever go
to your face mask? Okay, that's a play for the receiver.
That's I don't want the outpat on which you run
the post because his safety's horrible and he's you know,
and he's hurt. You know, we just saw the guy
hurt him. Oh you know, there's different things. He might
touch his head, you see, you've seen him when they
do stuff like this on the ground. Some of that
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is just nothing. You're just doing that for the.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Right and the thing that is the big stat like
we were talking last week, I think is evident again
of this game is turnovers because Kentucky doesn't have that
kind of offense unless they have it with cutter bowlie
that you know, oh well we threw a pick six,
we'll just get it right back. You know. It's not
Tim Couch's offense and Andre Woodson's offense where you can
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you know, get forty with no trouble.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So they have.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
To minimize the mistakes. And and I went back and
looked in this five game they I mean, they've had
six straight games with two or more turnovers. You know,
how many they've had in the last five wins over
Louisville three in five games.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
There.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It is Bellas. This has been fun. Enjoyed it. Enjoy
the game on Saturday, folks. That's it for the Wildhead
Whip and we'll see you next year.