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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the wildcare Whip, Dit Gabriel, John Leach, Jeff Lecoro,
we got to talk Kentucky Georgia football. That's going to
be another tall one for the Wildcats down in Athens.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Of course, Kentucky played Georgia so well last year, but
two almost entirely different teams.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And it's a typical Georgia team, isn't it, except for
the fact that.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
For the first time in a long time, Kentucky's playing
a Georgia team that's coming in off a loss.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, they're gonna be yeah, thirty three straight, so.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
They should be. Although I was asked about that this week.
George will be mad, and they will be. But from Kentucky,
I'm mad too after the way that they played last week.
And it doesn't look like it's maybe quite as good
a Georgia team as maybe the last couple of years.
They remember one of the country when they game in
here last year. Kentucky has played some close games against them,
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more more frequently I think at lexing down there. So
that's that's the particular challenge with a young quarterback in
that situation. But as they're saying, goes that which doesn't
kill you makes you stronger. So hopefully that will kick in,
and I'm sure it will along the way for Cutter.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, and you know, this Georgia team, they're not first,
but they're still twelve in the country, so they're still
pretty down good. The one thing that I see that's
missing from especially on the defensive side, are these big
time first round draft picks. Now they are big, They're enormous.
I'm doing the two deep and every gume right down.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Six five, six six.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
They have a left tackle, the backup is six ten,
three hundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I mean, they're just they're just monsters.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
It's a different Let think Steven Soles matched up against him.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, right, it's just a different level of football.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Well, we see, uh, you know, we see this kind
of stuff from these teams. And it's not just the starters,
it's the backups too, So there's not a big fall off,
but they just don't have the marquee names. Even got
Stockton isn't the barky name at quarterback.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Yeah, back, exten but he could become by then.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's the thing you mentioned.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Cutter Bowley.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
He had his problems at South Carolina, but A lot
of that was the fact that.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
We said right here last week and talked about.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
The fact that those guys coming off the edge for
South Carolina are going to be a problem, and indeed
they were boldly talked to the media this week about
trying to get rid of the ball.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Quicker can he do that? Is that possible down at Georgia? Well,
I'll have to find some things. They threw to McGowan
once or twice tried the pick six was actually on
a quick slant that he just threw a little hot
and high, maybe because he's in his head a little
bit about the fumble. I don't know, but they've you
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got to find a ways to get maybe some easier completions.
The other thing is I wonder if right now I
had somebody write me this week, a lister saying, who
would have the philosophy that you're not built to back? Well,
it's not a philosophy, understand, it's kind of where they
are now and that you hope with a young quarterback
will change, and it can change quickly once you know
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he really starts to click for them. But you try
if it's third and long, maybe and you've got a
good punter. You just kind of not don't try to
do a deep drop and expose him that way. Maybe
you throw something short and if you can't make it,
you punt it and live to play another day. So
maybe more of that kind of approach. I don't know,
I'm guessing. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You know, a team like Old Miss throws five six
seven screens a game, right, they're just a screen team.
They also show a lot of this quick short passes.
That's just not the way Kentucky's offense is built. It's
just it's not in their repertoire to throw that those
types of plays. But when you're playing a team like
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last week was a great example in South care two
really really really good tight defensive ends, edge rushers, whatever
you want to call them, so you got to get
the ball out. George is kind of the same way,
but they really have the three guys and then if
they bring a fourth that have size and quickness. So
the way to slow that down is to throw some screens,
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and it's just not really in their repertoire. Now, what
they do do is the bubble screens to the receivers,
which maybe you throw a couple more of those, but
they have here's what they They know they've got a
weapon in McGowan, right. I mean, the guy's averaging ninety
eight yards a game, so he's right at the one
hundred yard mark. They have to get a compliment for him,
something they can do.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
You may have pointed this out during a game, and
I saw Van, one of Van Hiles cutups, pointed out
there was a play in the first half, I think
where they ran a route and it was the receiver
was going a deeper out but McGowan's kind of leaking
out to the outside and cut her head McGowan and
in some space, that's an easy completion, and you know,
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you would have got seven to eight out of it maybe,
And I think and maybe you mentioned it at the
time that he missed him. That's the thing that as
a young quarterback, you will see that on tape and
you'll eventually make the decision there. But you know, some
of those kind of things, you know McGowan, dowbt Dell,
maybe Patterson or guys that you know they can catch
the ball out of the backfield, so maybe utilize them
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a little more.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
We talked about the fact that both teams are different
from last year.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
A lot of new personnel.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
But the approach I think clearly has to be the
same for the Wildcats as it was last year and
against South Carolina before things fell apart. You know, took
the ball to open the game, marched it down the
field and scored, got it back, gave a touchdown, but
marched it down the field and scored. But last year,
you guys remember this, Kentucky doubled up Georgia on first downs,
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just played keep away, just kept the ball, kept moving
the chains between what the twenty fives, and gave themselves
a chance to win in the fourth quarter. You wonder
can they do that on the road now?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Well, I think Tom that they have a kicker that
with his leg I take threes in this game.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You get them and you know you crossed the fifty.
I'm kicking a field.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, you look at the miss in the South Carolina
game right at the end of the first half. They
didn't manage either one of those well enough to get
the shot at a field goal, but it was the
opportunity was there. They've got to be better at that
because of you know how they're struggling at the moment offensively.
You hope that will change with time, but at the moment,
you've got to deal with what is. And so points
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are just at a premium. So if you have a
chance to get get at three, make sure you don't
mess that up.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Get three.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Come out of that with three, and you know, with
him that get they've got a luxury. They don't have
to get as far across the fifty as they normally
would have to.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
You know, the other thing too, is it just seems
from the zero to like the thirty five to forty
they're really good, and then from the thirty five end
they're really good. It's that middle of the field where
they've had a lot of problems, and especially towards the end.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
The other thing they.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Had to go one more first down.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yeah, yeah, get one more first down. But then the
other thing that has to change too, And I kind
of lost my train of thought here is being better
going in and out of the halves because it's just
killed him and especially you know last week they give
it up, and then they know that they took the
ball to start the game, so you know they're giving
it that's where they're going.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Do you know what they held Georgia. Georgia came out
to a three and out three and out, you know,
but couldn't build on that.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Right, right, Let's talk a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
More about Cutter Bowley because last week we talked about
the fact that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Redscherd freshman first start on the.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Road doing all the game prep that's all behind him.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Easier is the wrong word, but probably better capable of
dealing with it now, don't you think, especially going into
a place like.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
This, one would think. So I talked to Mike Hartline
this week, who's offensive quality control coach I think is
the term, and he works with the quarterbacks, and you know,
he's a guy that went through some adversity and he
had two years to be the understudy, still had to
go through some learning pains, but came out of that
a very underrated quarterback for how good he was in
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his last couple of years. And he said, you know,
you just got to he said, Number one, people are
looking at you if you're the quarterback, so you've got
to make sure that you know your body language, all
those things are good. And he said, you just you know,
kind of keep moving forward. You learn from it and
get better from one game to the next. And at
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some point we're going to see him go out there
and it's all going to start to click. And you know,
if it's this Saturday or three saturdays from now or something,
you're going to see him like, oh wow, that's who
we've expected to see. Well, yeah, he's got a lot
more learning under his belt.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
But you know, it's almost like Yogi Berra said, ninety
percent of this game is.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
You know, but half a mount on is half mental.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
And I think that's the truth for football too, is comfortability.
When you start getting he's confident enough. I mean, he's
just a confidence guy's way he is. But when he
starts getting comfortable back there, that's when things start happening.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
And that's what you hope.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And again to me and we all of us have
talked about this at different times, the biggest guy I
saw that in it was Andre Woodson from his sophomore
to his junior year. He got comfortable and everything clicked
in that third year.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
It's the challenge for these guys. I would think this
week is too. It's the best way to put this.
You know, Keelan is coming up this weekend. There will
be times you'll hear the phrase throw out that last race.
It was just so bad that you don't have an
explanation for it, So you just draw one through it
and look at the rest. And that's what kind of
what you have to do with that game last week
if you're Kentucky, because during the broadcast we talked about
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the two thousand and seven game down there, and it
played out similarly. Defensive touchdowns for South Carolina. Kentucky looked awful,
But that team had won a bowl game and had
a lot more equity in the bank and a lot
of veterans and a lot of veterans and second year
quarterback and all those great receivers that this team doesn't
have at the moment. So but still, I guess my
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point is that was just looked like a blip on
the screen at that time, where this is.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Viewed as like just a catastrophe.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
They were both the same kind of game, So as
a player, you have to kind of look at it
not as a catastrophe and some great big statement on
where the program is. It was just a bad night
and you have to come back and play better the
next game.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Did draw a line through this one? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yes, But I think there's also some things that you
can take out of this game. I wonder how different
the game is if Shia Pete falls on the football
instead of missing it.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I mean, and I'm not blaming the kids.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
I just took a weird bounce.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, I mean, if he collars that, it's they're ball
at the thirty five.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Back watch that about three or four times. I felt
so sorry for him because I know what he thought.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
The ball's like boom bounces, you know, a foot to
the right and a foot to the right, and he
jumps on the third jump for the ball. And if
the ball popped up, Yeah, and he missed. And when
you're six eighty three twenty two and you start in
one direction, it's not changing.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
But I mean, now it's your ball the thirty five.
Even if you have to punt, they're gonna get it
down around the twenty.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
If not more. And uh so you're on schedule. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
This is a good team at the mound and lamorous,
but punting and kicking field goals they're best good things.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, ending every drive with a kick, there's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Preseason, we talked a lot, of course about the old line,
but I said one of the most intriguing elements of
this team is the receiver room.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And to me it still is, but only because now I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Confused because we don't know are these guys good at
getting open getting separation.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Because against the best defense we've seen Kentucky face, and
that's South.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Carolina Cutter Bowlie, didn't have enough time to let them
get open and to wait for them.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
To get open.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So that was your position, Jeff, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I just think that against the better teams right now,
Kentucky has to go to a shorter passing game. And
for us that would have been a three step drop
because the quarterback was always under center, Bill, Randy, whoever
is there was under center. It's just three steps boom
through it. And that's and again I go back to Obens.
If you watch the old Miss offense, it's almost you
have to take some of the plays that they run,
the tendencies that they have, and incorporate them in your
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offense because right now, against the team that has really
good rushers, you just don't have time for these what
would be a five or a seven step drop in
the shotgun, that's what that is, because now the receivers
have to run a little bit further down the field.
I bet you've already got the ball. Does that make sense?
So shorten them up and.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Then short pass, short pass, short pass. Once that safety
starts to come up, then you go over the top.
And when you do tennessee Ole Miss they do that
so well.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
When you do that, you can use I think the
tight ends more sure instead of bringing the.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Block right right, yeah, if if, if you're Kentucky offensively
right now, I think your goal needs to be really
annoy These good teams are going to face, which is
getting three or four yards on runs and completing short passes.
It they've got to have a higher completion percentage.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I mean, it's like Patinos for skiple of teams. Remember
they were annoying. They were always around you, right, They're
they're taking the ball and you're like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
And then you get better playing and.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know what happens to an opponent when you get
annoyed and they.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Because they try to start forcing things.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
We talked to annwar Stewart about his group the defensive line,
which I thought he quitted itself fairly well, but lost
some rush lanes against Cellary. We talked about that last week.
And this is a quarterback this week. Who is Yeah,
he plays for Georgia, but he's not your typical Georgia
sitting in the pocket and pat the football guy is.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
He's dangerous and not a big six or four guy.
I mean, Stockton is like my size. I mean he's
he's not quite Johnny.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He's a strapping young man.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, he's not Johnny Manziel out there by any means.
But he's not a big guy. He's you know, maybe
six foot and two hundred pounds tops.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Probably was the top.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I don't know if they were you know, maybe a
year ago, if they were thinking he'd be the guys
this time. Yeah, but he was forced into action and
did well, and so he is the guy in the
bottom line with him. Hey, you gotta tip your hat
to him all comers. He beat him all out last
year to be, you know, to be Beck's back up,
and when Beck went down, he was right there and
led them.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
He's done a nice job.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, if they get off to the good start, which
they did last week, Ty Bryant, we want that ball.
I don't know if they do it this week, but
they certainly did get off to the good start.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
And play clean. What kind of shot do they have.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
It's a long shot. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I mean, they're absolutely no acknowledge, there are no getting
around that.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's just they took the crowd out of the game early.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It's not something you'd predict because of the circumstances and
the fact that it's down there. But the way it
happens is what we're kind of what we're talking about.
Just hang around, be annoying, be really good in the
kicking game, and put them The analogy I kind of
came to this week is be like the golfer who's
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playing in a major who's not you know, Rory or
one of the top guys. Just manage your round of
golf in a way that you hang around till Sunday.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
I'll keep crying. Be in the hunt.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Be close enough in the hunt that maybe you make
a few birdies or the other guy makes some bogies
and you have a shot. And that's kind of who
they need to be. Don't lose the tournament on Thursday
and Friday, which they lost the tournament early, lost the
game early last week.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
And with teams like this, you cannot give them extra
opportunities with the football, and you cannot have three four
turnovers against this team, they'll kill you.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Kentucky needs to start as being a plus tea.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Yes, yeah, turn I mean, look, just zero turnovers. That's
all I'm worried to.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
If you don't have any turnovers, then you got to
you got a decent chance.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
And as you said, in.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Every drive with a kick, and I think that if
that's the situation, then I think you know, on the
fourth quarter, they're gonna have it.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Like we always talk about puncher's chance.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Mak you other guys earn it, don't give it to them,
and good things could happen. Not yet, So that'll do
it now, Ready, Jeff for the wildcat whip. I get
to do you get it and we'll see you next week.