March 11, 2025 • 28 mins
Darren Headrick gets you caught up on all things UK Athletics with Cameron Mills presented by Clark's Pump-n-Shop. Show is live from 7:30-8pm ET.
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Hendrick March is here and so is the madness.
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Let it begin.
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Postseason play begins for men's basketball this week with the
SEC Tournament. The Kentucky women's basketball team. They're waiting to
find out their fate in the NCAA Tournament selection show
this coming Sunday at eight o'clock. The men's selection show
will be at six o'clock. Welcome into Clark's Pumping Shop
BBN Radio Darren Hendrick joined by Cameron Mills.
Speaker 7 (01:23):
How are you, sir, Darren. I'm well, March is here,
it is basketball now matters.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Favorite month of the season, Yeah, yeah, the season.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Yeah, technically favorite month would be April because again, as
I say, because it's easy to say nothing matters still March.
You can't say nothing matters till March and or April,
and April is when that mean. I don't know the
last time they crown a national championship or a champion
in March, but you always that's what you're always playing for,
is that first weekend in April.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So no doubt about it. Well, the Wildcats are going
to start SEC tournament play, but before we dive into that,
let's kind of go back can and and take a
look at that win over Missouri won of dominant performance
by Kentucky absolutely lights out from three in that matchup
with the Tigers.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
It's funny Dave and I at the beginning of the show,
of the pregame show, he you know, I do my
Cameron's keys, and he's always adding and threes and because
I don't include him, and I think I don't include
him because it's like, well, clearly that's it's yeah, because
I mean that's that from the moment Mark got here
and said, you know we're gonna we're gonna try to
get thirty a game shots a game. Then okay, that's
(02:30):
clear and if you go back and look, but Dave's like,
you gotta include that your keys because it's clearly a key.
And he's right because if you look at and so
I finally.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Can like one of goose given though, right, Well, but.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Let's just be honest, but they're both the same thing.
Different opinions maybe sometimes, but it's it's clever alliteration, I
believe is what it really is. Yeah, I don't know
if clever is right where it's just a literation, but
it's I mean, it's kind of the point where I
feel like, and this is I think an obvious point
if and I don't know that twelve is the right number,
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but if we're hitting and that's what I said pregame,
I said, if we hit twelve threes or more, we win.
If if we're hitting, you know, seventeen percent from three
at halftime, I don't know that we do. And it's
like that's the one stat you can go to. I
feel like in every game, and there might be some
outliers in there. But it's like, look, if we're on fire,
you're not beating us. And you know, I like talking
to people about the analytics because it's you know, there's
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this feeling opinion theory that there's a lot of things
you can do to shut down a hot shooting three
point team. There's not you can keep the hot shooter
from getting the ball. But again that kind of does
the same thing, and that you've got to go out
and deny and it opens up the inside of that
right of that area of the zone. It spreads out
the defense. But if somebody's hot, they're hot. And one game,
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and let's assume for the second that we're going to
play six games once the real tournament starts. No offense
to the SEC tournament. I love that too. But once
we get to the Nclway Tournament, let's assume we play
six games. One of those six games, we're not gonna
be hot. It just just low of averages. You're gonna
have a game where we're gonna come out and not
shoot well. And that's where our defense, which has improved vastly,
specifically in February, has to take over.
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two eighty seven. And we heard Coach Pope on his
radio show just a few minutes ago, and some of
the stuff that stuck out to me towards the end
of his hour was talking about how he's used analytics
to retool this roster and you know, redefine it because
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of some of the injuries and kind of retool how
he does things massage the roster and also try to
manipulate the game that way.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
I think it's fun the way because I am not
an analytic person. Well I've been told I am because
my college basketball coach was an analytics coach before it
was a word. I mean because again our our our team,
you know, scout breakdowns were so detailed, and I mean
ridiculously detailed. I mean to the amount of information that
there's no way we to But I love that Mark
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uses it. I also love that he opened these states
look at some because this has always been my problem
with analytics is that at some point I get it.
You put your team in the best position to win.
But at some point at least I want a coach
that's gonna go with the field the heart because I
can always go back, and I maybe even said this
on your show. Before I can go back to my
shot against Duke. There is no bit I had no
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business being in that game based on what I had
done in the tournament that far. I had not hit
a shot, not hit a three, I'd not done anything,
and so I shouldn't have been in that game, should
have been on the bench. And yet I was in
the game and all of a sudden, pop there goes one.
So I mean, sometimes you just got to go off feeling.
Mark does that. But the biggest thing about the injuries,
the most positive thing that's come out of it is Trent, Noah, Travis,
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Perry and Colin that I mean, for them to get
the minutes they've gotten in games that were still in doubt,
where coach Pope now knows that, hey, they made some mistakes,
he alluded to some of them right here a few
minutes ago, but he knows he can count on them
to get through and even in some senses excel on
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the court. So that, yeah, if La mon' stun end.
We're losing something. We've lost something with Kerr, but we've
got three dudes that with three freshmen over there on
the bench, that can play, and that can play at
this level and that have gotten experience this season to
do it in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Colin Chandler is a guy that over the last few
games looks like he's growing more and more comfortable in
his role. And against Missouri he was a key factor
in that victory.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Adam seemingly out of nowhere though, because I you know,
Travis had his moments, Trent has has had his moments,
and then you're sitting there like, well, all right, Colin,
you know, I mean, is Colin gonna have his? And
then the last well two of maybe even the last
three games, certainly two of the last three, you know,
he's gone from you know, having ophers you know in
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most statistical categories after you see a game, even the
ones you know, specifically the ones he's played obviously to
as you said, being a key factor. And you know,
just to sit here and listen to Mark talk about
he's not even talk about his shooting, He's talk him
at his defense. And to throw that out there and say, okay,
well we've got you know, one more guard that you know,
can I mean think about just the perimeter defense and
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the ability that we need to have guys shut that down.
Here's one more that now is going to have the
confidence to know that he himself can go out there
and do it at all aspects of the game. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And the best news is, on top of these guys
getting better, Lamont obviously is going to get healthier and
healthier and that's going to be huge. His defense in
the tournament's going to be huge. And you know, Otaga
Oway and Amari Williams have had tremendous seasons and Otega
was named All SEC second Team. Amari Williams should have
been there. But yeah, I agree with the breaks. I agree.
I was going to ask you your thoughts on that.
(07:38):
I think you should have been there. And and uh,
because he certainly has put together historic season.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, he did exactly what I
think we were expecting him to do. Plus I mean,
to me, and let's not let's not take a whole
season and bear it down to one game.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
But the free.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Throws he hit and against Missouri, Yes, he's a fifty
free throw shooter. He may be slightly better statistically, but
he's not a great free throw shooter. And those were
huge in that in keeping you know, keeping Missouri at
bay when they started making their ridiculous threes at the
end of the game.
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Kentucky will take on the winner of Georgia and Oklahoma
on Thursday night in the SEC Tournament. The Wildcats a
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SEC Tournament. And boy, you look at this tournament and
it doesn't matter if you're Kentucky or if you're Auburn
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or if you're Alabama. Somebody's got to go through some
teams that are good enough to make a final four
to win this thing.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
This is the Haunted House. This is the Haunted House
of tournaments, except the chainsaws are real. That's what this is,
because I've never you know, And the reflection of that,
the truth of that is the way the polls, which
I hate up until now, because now they're reflective of
what teams have actually done, not what we assume they're
gonna do. So now you can look at the polls
with some sense of accuracy. You look at the net,
(09:00):
the quads, you look at what the committee is saying,
and you're like, Okay, you know what, we were basically
just over fifty percent or five hundred as a team
in the SEC. We're still ranked at the top twenty five.
So for everyone to be understanding that, because what I
fully expected is what typically happens. We are a great conference.
We're gonna beat the tar out of each other, and
(09:21):
we're gonna wind up with eight teams in MAX and
I don't know how many teams we're gonna wind up
in now, but I'm I'm seeing thirteen, which is insanity,
wonderful insanity. But it's a.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Byproduct of these conferences consolidating each other.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
No, I get that, I get that, But here's the thing.
The conferences have consolidated, but we've gotten a lot of
the football and basketball talent under the SEC, which you
know is what Kentucky fans have wanted for years because
they always like to have that argument again it's because
of Louisville. Well, Louisville's in the a SEC, right and
it could be argued due North Carolina that you know,
they've had the best conference. They can't make that argument
(09:54):
this year for sure, Yeah, no question.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well you look at Kentucky, either opponent, they get, George's
on a little winning streak to end the season, and
Oklahoma is a team projected to make the field and
played Kentucky awfully tough in Norman.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
But we owe Georgia. There you go, and to me
and I hate getting into the revenge idea because I
think Mark would sit here and tell you that. I
think Mark would tell you this that you know, you
don't focus on that. You focus on the team as
though you're playing for the first time. And maybe there's
a little mentioned during the pregame speech from the coach
about hey, remember what they did to you and Athens
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or you know, remember what happened, but you don't focus
on that. At the same time, I know for a
fact that it's hard to beat one team three times
in one year. Well it's also hard to beat a team,
if you know. I mean that. That's why the second
Tennessee game was like, oh, we're for real, Like you
could you could always dumb it down to maybe luck
against Duke, maybe the ball bouncer away, because that's part
(10:51):
of the game. Tennessee. Same thing. You beat Tennessee twice
even though other teams have beat them, and they're not
the juggernaut they started off the season expected to be.
And you're like, no, we've got it. We've I mean,
and we've proved it as far as like who we've played.
Now we've gotten to the end of the year. What
is it eight top fifteen or twenty five victories? Yes, something.
It's record tying or record breaking and certainly the record
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Speaker 7 (14:14):
Eight top fifteen victories. Yes, I'm sorry, I know because
I've been saying eight top twenty five for a few
days now, and then was just reminded by this crack
squad of savvy, motivated personnel around us right now, all
of whom are just eating and not working that. No,
it was eight to fifteen, eight top fifteen wins. That's huge, yep.
And I think ties, I think ties somebody else like
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for the all time record. I know it breaks the
Kentucky record. So I mean that it's just phenomenal. And
that was going to lead me to my next question.
Through all the stuff, the adversity that this team has
had to get through, with the injuries and getting through
all these difficult games and a challenging schedule, how would
you rate how coach mart Pope did in year one
as the headman of the Wildcats. Well, I always shown,
(15:01):
yeah I always should the need to say this, but
I think people understand it. I am insanely biased. I mean,
I I guess, yeah, I can't. I can't accurately take
my heart away from my head and answering this question.
So I mean, I mean, what do we what was
this one out of ten? What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Whatever scale you want to use.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
I mean, it's interesting to me that he is not
the coach I thought he was going to be in
some minor ways, like you know, he doesn't because of
his because he loves Coach P and because I know
for a fact because I was in the locker room too.
I know, like when Mark starts talking about adversity, I
know where that comes from. And I know if he
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didn't learn it already when he got to college, I
know where he learned it from. Because if people haven't
seen that video of Coach P in the you know,
Vice dot com, whatever they're doing, that's what he's I mean,
first of all, that's not our coach p our Coach
P is much angrier than that. But what he said is,
I mean, that is word for word. What he told
us constantly is that you embrace literally you don't. You
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don't shy away from adversity, you don't you know, you
embrace it, and I think that's that's one of the
things that Mark has done incredibly well. I did think,
out of ignorance, Mark was gonna come in and be
like coach p you know, black white, red, meaning full
court press, forty minutes, tire the team out, get him,
turn the ball over in the last ten minutes. We're
gonna throw all kinds of different defenses at him. He
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you know, I did think we were gonna come in
and I told people early it's gonna be like Patino's
Bombinos from the early nineties, which it was supposed to be.
But what I love is that, even though that was
the expectation of what thirty three is a game, I
don't know that we hit that maybe once or twice.
And you look at the the Missouri game, we shot
what twenty eight twenty eight threes? Am I looking at
this right? Or is that no? No, no, no, that's Missouri.
(16:42):
Here we go. We shot twenty threes. Yeah, that's why
I was wrong. We shot twenty threes and hit eleven.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Right.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
I'll take that efficiency absolutely now, and I assume they
will as well, because, like I said earlierf we're hitting threes,
it's just hard to beat us, and so I mean, Marcus,
I think of all the things he's done, what I
love the most is what he's done off the court,
which is what I expected because this is the kind
of person he is. He loves the school, he loves
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this program. And think of all the places he's played, coached,
NBA College, Columbia Medical School, if you want to throw
that in there. Of all the things Mark's done, this
is this is like, this is his place. And I
think he's proven that to the fans, who rightfully so
we're doubters. Fairly so, I should say not rightfully, but
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fairly so we're doubters. When his name got thrown out,
is who Barnhart was going after. And it's just been
fun to watch us beat teams that people didn't give
us a chance to beat, watch him weave together this
injury issue that we've had all year, especially since you know,
Kurr went out, but even before that, we were battling
some you know, little stuff. And not just because again,
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he is a person, He's not going to say, well,
we got a tough break. He knows that's part of
the game, and he knows that what that does is
is it gives everyone else again. And and this is
what happened to me. It gives you walk on slash
your bench warmers, a chance to shine, or a chance
to be in the game when it matters. Is supposed
to be in the game when you're up thirty And
those are two entirely different things. And so he has
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taken that. And you know, like you said, mess with
the lineup, try to figure out who's right, who needs
to play with who. But most importantly, we don't run
from the adversity because everyone's going to face it. So
you can use this excuse or you can embrace it
and say we're fighting through it. And that's what he's done.
And then he's also culturally. I mean, he has what
he said at his opening press conference, this is not
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my program, this is not the player's program. This is
our program. And he pointed to all twenty two thousand
people that were there. And I feel like for the fans,
more than anything, the wins obviously matter because UK fans
and wins clearly always matter and should, but I think
that's what they appreciate more than anything is that Marcus
come in and said, look, man, this isn't this isn't
my team. This isn't you know? This is our team,
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you know, and he's been part of it as a fan.
You know, you went from player to fan to coach.
He's he's been on all sides of the fence and understands,
you know what, without these fans, crazy as they might be,
we're not Kentucky basketball doesn't exist the way it currently exists.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
When you were talking about the job he's done with
the roster, I thought it was need how he gave
a little peek behind the curtain on his radio show tonight,
and we kind of referenced this in the last segment
where guys have had to slide over and maybe play
a role, maybe it's the point guard of the one,
and he says, well, we've kind of retooled it and
we're bringing them in as the two, and then once
they get comfortable with flow, then we'll slide them over
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where we want them to be. And I thought that
was a pretty neat peak behind the roster.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
I did too, because if my coach, as far as
I know, didn't do that, didn't do that with me
at any rate. But let's be fair, I could only
play one position. But I thought that was interesting of like,
you know, because you hear people talking about or asking
or questioning the lineups, the rotation, this, that and the other,
and I feel I always feel the need to explain
to peoples that, look, I get what you're seeing and
(20:00):
what you're basing your opinion on. What so and so
needs to be in this group that group. You know that,
and why is he doing this way he does that.
All we get to see unless he gives us a
peak like he just did on a show, all we
get to see is the games. That's five percent of
what these dudes are seeing. There's ninety five percent of
practice that the coaches are basing. The analytics aren't just
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from games, they're from practice. They're keeping analytics in practice.
So he's basing his decisions about rotation, who goes in
for who when they go in on so much more
than just well, when so and so went in, we
had a plus minus of five as opposed to a
negative five. So that's the lineup that we should do.
If this one, well, look, he's he's playing four D
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chess constantly, it is, and he always has and as
a teammate, it was wonderful and maddening at the same time.
Because you're like, no one else was playing on his level.
No one was. That's right mentally.
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We'll Chat in Kentucky Baseball's They'll have a bad year
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Baseball has a home game tomorrow night against Kentucky Proud Park.
They'll take on Northern Illinois at six point thirty. That
was a game added because they lost one due to
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home game tomorrow night at six thirty. We're chatting with
Cameron Mills. The Kentucky men's team will open SEC tournament
play Thursday night, approximately nine to thirty in Nashville. It's
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nine thirty Eastern against the winner of Georgia and Oklahoma.
They will play Wednesday night. Who would you rather them play?
I mean you asked me. I'd never like to answer
those questions.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Why you asked me? I had to answer.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I didn't ask you if you'd rather see Georgia Oklahoma?
Did you not? You?
Speaker 7 (25:11):
And I took it, and yeah, and you took and
you too. I would rather play Georgia. You don't want
to answer.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I mean, come, I don't want to give it any
material out material.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
I just's just saying who would you rather play. I'm
not saying Georgia, Darren Hendrick. They're gonna use it in
the locker. You know the game. You never know, that
is true. You don't. You don't know what a coach
I used to motivate a team, That's right.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
The random radio guy in Lexington is on the board
in the.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Georgia guy, well he does radio for the women's team,
that's right, so he wants to see George.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Let's use it to motivate us against the men we
talked earlier. And by the way, here's you a fun stat.
Kentucky seeks it's thirty third SEC Tournament championship if their
thirty two tournament titles are more than the rest of
the league combined. Of thirty one, Alabama has eight, Tennessee
has five, no by else with more than four.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
So I think it's the same way with regular season
conferences too. I mean it's I think we're in our
forties or maybe the fifties at some point.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So you and I have been talking about how difficult
the SEC Tournament is going to be because of all
the talent there, and in the past you kind of
hear about the NCAA tournament is easier in some aspects
because it's refreshing, you're facing new teams. Yeah, I imagine
this year it's it's not just the case of playing
somebody besides an SEC opponent, it's just playing well.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
I think you're right, But I also think it's the
relief of playing now as a team. You can't have
that attitude because you heard Mark sit right here and say,
as far as preparation, we prepare for the national championship
game the same way we prepare for the exhibition games.
Everything is consistent. That's that way you don't have these
ups and downs, or at least you're fighting the ups
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and downs. But yeah, no, I would think, I mean,
you know, here, here's the good thing about the SEC tournament,
or I guess where we can maybe draw some silver lining. Yeah, overall,
all the conference is a bear. And overall, I mean
I've seen some you know, bracketologists are saying thirteen teams in,
which is an absurd number, and that may happen, But
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in the tournament, you're only responsible for playing the team
that is on the other side of the court. That's right,
and you beat them, and then you beat the next
team and then you don't have to play all what
are we have eighteen teams, so seven you'd have to
play all seventeen. To win SEC tournament, you got to
beat the team that's across the court from you. And
then once that's done, then you find out. Well, in
our case, we'll know it'll be if we win, it'll
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be Alabama, right, and then you got to play Alabama,
so and we know. Look, and I think I think
we can beat Alabama. I think I think one of
the biggest gifts we have right now is that our
roster is set. There's no we're guessing, there's no we're
looking at that injury report before the game. Who's in,
who's out, who's likely, who's not. Now we may still
have injuries, but it's set. The coaches know that, the
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players know that. Let's move on from there. Cameron, always
fun to talk with you, buddy. I'm sure we'll do
it again before this season is done. Happy to postseason
is here. The SEC Tournament begins Thursday. Coming up next,
it's the nick Men's You Own Show. We appreciate Cameron
Mills joining us here tonight and again it's I'm going
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Speaker 7 (01:02):
Let it begin.
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Postseason play begins for men's basketball this week with the
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this coming Sunday at eight o'clock. The men's selection show
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Speaker 7 (01:23):
How are you, sir, Darren. I'm well, March is here,
it is basketball now matters.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Favorite month of the season, Yeah, yeah, the season.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Yeah, technically favorite month would be April because again, as
I say, because it's easy to say nothing matters still March.
You can't say nothing matters till March and or April,
and April is when that mean. I don't know the
last time they crown a national championship or a champion
in March, but you always that's what you're always playing for,
is that first weekend in April.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So no doubt about it. Well, the Wildcats are going
to start SEC tournament play, but before we dive into that,
let's kind of go back can and and take a
look at that win over Missouri won of dominant performance
by Kentucky absolutely lights out from three in that matchup
with the Tigers.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
It's funny Dave and I at the beginning of the show,
of the pregame show, he you know, I do my
Cameron's keys, and he's always adding and threes and because
I don't include him, and I think I don't include
him because it's like, well, clearly that's it's yeah, because
I mean that's that from the moment Mark got here
and said, you know we're gonna we're gonna try to
get thirty a game shots a game. Then okay, that's
(02:30):
clear and if you go back and look, but Dave's like,
you gotta include that your keys because it's clearly a key.
And he's right because if you look at and so
I finally.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Can like one of goose given though, right, Well, but.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Let's just be honest, but they're both the same thing.
Different opinions maybe sometimes, but it's it's clever alliteration, I
believe is what it really is. Yeah, I don't know
if clever is right where it's just a literation, but
it's I mean, it's kind of the point where I
feel like, and this is I think an obvious point
if and I don't know that twelve is the right number,
(03:03):
but if we're hitting and that's what I said pregame,
I said, if we hit twelve threes or more, we win.
If if we're hitting, you know, seventeen percent from three
at halftime, I don't know that we do. And it's
like that's the one stat you can go to. I
feel like in every game, and there might be some
outliers in there. But it's like, look, if we're on fire,
you're not beating us. And you know, I like talking
to people about the analytics because it's you know, there's
(03:25):
this feeling opinion theory that there's a lot of things
you can do to shut down a hot shooting three
point team. There's not you can keep the hot shooter
from getting the ball. But again that kind of does
the same thing, and that you've got to go out
and deny and it opens up the inside of that
right of that area of the zone. It spreads out
the defense. But if somebody's hot, they're hot. And one game,
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and let's assume for the second that we're going to
play six games once the real tournament starts. No offense
to the SEC tournament. I love that too. But once
we get to the Nclway Tournament, let's assume we play
six games. One of those six games, we're not gonna
be hot. It just just low of averages. You're gonna
have a game where we're gonna come out and not
shoot well. And that's where our defense, which has improved vastly,
specifically in February, has to take over.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You could call us on the Clark's Pump and Shop
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in Lexington at eight five nine two eight zero two
two eighty seven. And we heard Coach Pope on his
radio show just a few minutes ago, and some of
the stuff that stuck out to me towards the end
of his hour was talking about how he's used analytics
to retool this roster and you know, redefine it because
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of some of the injuries and kind of retool how
he does things massage the roster and also try to
manipulate the game that way.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
I think it's fun the way because I am not
an analytic person. Well I've been told I am because
my college basketball coach was an analytics coach before it
was a word. I mean because again our our our team,
you know, scout breakdowns were so detailed, and I mean
ridiculously detailed. I mean to the amount of information that
there's no way we to But I love that Mark
(05:02):
uses it. I also love that he opened these states
look at some because this has always been my problem
with analytics is that at some point I get it.
You put your team in the best position to win.
But at some point at least I want a coach
that's gonna go with the field the heart because I
can always go back, and I maybe even said this
on your show. Before I can go back to my
shot against Duke. There is no bit I had no
(05:23):
business being in that game based on what I had
done in the tournament that far. I had not hit
a shot, not hit a three, I'd not done anything,
and so I shouldn't have been in that game, should
have been on the bench. And yet I was in
the game and all of a sudden, pop there goes one.
So I mean, sometimes you just got to go off feeling.
Mark does that. But the biggest thing about the injuries,
the most positive thing that's come out of it is Trent, Noah, Travis,
(05:44):
Perry and Colin that I mean, for them to get
the minutes they've gotten in games that were still in doubt,
where coach Pope now knows that, hey, they made some mistakes,
he alluded to some of them right here a few
minutes ago, but he knows he can count on them
to get through and even in some senses excel on
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the court. So that, yeah, if La mon' stun end.
We're losing something. We've lost something with Kerr, but we've
got three dudes that with three freshmen over there on
the bench, that can play, and that can play at
this level and that have gotten experience this season to
do it in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Colin Chandler is a guy that over the last few
games looks like he's growing more and more comfortable in
his role. And against Missouri he was a key factor
in that victory.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Adam seemingly out of nowhere though, because I you know,
Travis had his moments, Trent has has had his moments,
and then you're sitting there like, well, all right, Colin,
you know, I mean, is Colin gonna have his? And
then the last well two of maybe even the last
three games, certainly two of the last three, you know,
he's gone from you know, having ophers you know in
(06:46):
most statistical categories after you see a game, even the
ones you know, specifically the ones he's played obviously to
as you said, being a key factor. And you know,
just to sit here and listen to Mark talk about
he's not even talk about his shooting, He's talk him
at his defense. And to throw that out there and say, okay,
well we've got you know, one more guard that you know,
can I mean think about just the perimeter defense and
(07:08):
the ability that we need to have guys shut that down.
Here's one more that now is going to have the
confidence to know that he himself can go out there
and do it at all aspects of the game. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And the best news is, on top of these guys
getting better, Lamont obviously is going to get healthier and
healthier and that's going to be huge. His defense in
the tournament's going to be huge. And you know, Otaga
Oway and Amari Williams have had tremendous seasons and Otega
was named All SEC second Team. Amari Williams should have
been there. But yeah, I agree with the breaks. I agree.
I was going to ask you your thoughts on that.
(07:38):
I think you should have been there. And and uh,
because he certainly has put together historic season.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, he did exactly what I
think we were expecting him to do. Plus I mean,
to me, and let's not let's not take a whole
season and bear it down to one game.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
But the free.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Throws he hit and against Missouri, Yes, he's a fifty
free throw shooter. He may be slightly better statistically, but
he's not a great free throw shooter. And those were
huge in that in keeping you know, keeping Missouri at
bay when they started making their ridiculous threes at the
end of the game.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Kentucky will take on the winner of Georgia and Oklahoma
on Thursday night in the SEC Tournament. The Wildcats a
sixth seed. Tip Off will be approximately nine to thirty
in Nashville. It's nine thirty Eastern in Nashville in the
SEC Tournament. And boy, you look at this tournament and
it doesn't matter if you're Kentucky or if you're Auburn
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or if you're Alabama. Somebody's got to go through some
teams that are good enough to make a final four
to win this thing.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
This is the Haunted House. This is the Haunted House
of tournaments, except the chainsaws are real. That's what this is,
because I've never you know, And the reflection of that,
the truth of that is the way the polls, which
I hate up until now, because now they're reflective of
what teams have actually done, not what we assume they're
gonna do. So now you can look at the polls
with some sense of accuracy. You look at the net,
(09:00):
the quads, you look at what the committee is saying,
and you're like, Okay, you know what, we were basically
just over fifty percent or five hundred as a team
in the SEC. We're still ranked at the top twenty five.
So for everyone to be understanding that, because what I
fully expected is what typically happens. We are a great conference.
We're gonna beat the tar out of each other, and
(09:21):
we're gonna wind up with eight teams in MAX and
I don't know how many teams we're gonna wind up
in now, but I'm I'm seeing thirteen, which is insanity,
wonderful insanity. But it's a.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Byproduct of these conferences consolidating each other.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
No, I get that, I get that, But here's the thing.
The conferences have consolidated, but we've gotten a lot of
the football and basketball talent under the SEC, which you
know is what Kentucky fans have wanted for years because
they always like to have that argument again it's because
of Louisville. Well, Louisville's in the a SEC, right and
it could be argued due North Carolina that you know,
they've had the best conference. They can't make that argument
(09:54):
this year for sure, Yeah, no question.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well you look at Kentucky, either opponent, they get, George's
on a little winning streak to end the season, and
Oklahoma is a team projected to make the field and
played Kentucky awfully tough in Norman.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
But we owe Georgia. There you go, and to me
and I hate getting into the revenge idea because I
think Mark would sit here and tell you that. I
think Mark would tell you this that you know, you
don't focus on that. You focus on the team as
though you're playing for the first time. And maybe there's
a little mentioned during the pregame speech from the coach
about hey, remember what they did to you and Athens
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or you know, remember what happened, but you don't focus
on that. At the same time, I know for a
fact that it's hard to beat one team three times
in one year. Well it's also hard to beat a team,
if you know. I mean that. That's why the second
Tennessee game was like, oh, we're for real, Like you
could you could always dumb it down to maybe luck
against Duke, maybe the ball bouncer away, because that's part
(10:51):
of the game. Tennessee. Same thing. You beat Tennessee twice
even though other teams have beat them, and they're not
the juggernaut they started off the season expected to be.
And you're like, no, we've got it. We've I mean,
and we've proved it as far as like who we've played.
Now we've gotten to the end of the year. What
is it eight top fifteen or twenty five victories? Yes, something.
It's record tying or record breaking and certainly the record
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Kentucky men's basketball ends the regular season with eight top
twenty five victories and ten wins against Quad one opponents.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Eight top fifteen victories. Yes, I'm sorry, I know because
I've been saying eight top twenty five for a few
days now, and then was just reminded by this crack
squad of savvy, motivated personnel around us right now, all
of whom are just eating and not working that. No,
it was eight to fifteen, eight top fifteen wins. That's huge, yep.
And I think ties, I think ties somebody else like
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for the all time record. I know it breaks the
Kentucky record. So I mean that it's just phenomenal. And
that was going to lead me to my next question.
Through all the stuff, the adversity that this team has
had to get through, with the injuries and getting through
all these difficult games and a challenging schedule, how would
you rate how coach mart Pope did in year one
as the headman of the Wildcats. Well, I always shown,
(15:01):
yeah I always should the need to say this, but
I think people understand it. I am insanely biased. I mean,
I I guess, yeah, I can't. I can't accurately take
my heart away from my head and answering this question.
So I mean, I mean, what do we what was
this one out of ten? What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Whatever scale you want to use.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
I mean, it's interesting to me that he is not
the coach I thought he was going to be in
some minor ways, like you know, he doesn't because of
his because he loves Coach P and because I know
for a fact because I was in the locker room too.
I know, like when Mark starts talking about adversity, I
know where that comes from. And I know if he
(15:39):
didn't learn it already when he got to college, I
know where he learned it from. Because if people haven't
seen that video of Coach P in the you know,
Vice dot com, whatever they're doing, that's what he's I mean,
first of all, that's not our coach p our Coach
P is much angrier than that. But what he said is,
I mean, that is word for word. What he told
us constantly is that you embrace literally you don't. You
(16:00):
don't shy away from adversity, you don't you know, you
embrace it, and I think that's that's one of the
things that Mark has done incredibly well. I did think,
out of ignorance, Mark was gonna come in and be
like coach p you know, black white, red, meaning full
court press, forty minutes, tire the team out, get him,
turn the ball over in the last ten minutes. We're
gonna throw all kinds of different defenses at him. He
(16:21):
you know, I did think we were gonna come in
and I told people early it's gonna be like Patino's
Bombinos from the early nineties, which it was supposed to be.
But what I love is that, even though that was
the expectation of what thirty three is a game, I
don't know that we hit that maybe once or twice.
And you look at the the Missouri game, we shot
what twenty eight twenty eight threes? Am I looking at
this right? Or is that no? No, no, no, that's Missouri.
(16:42):
Here we go. We shot twenty threes. Yeah, that's why
I was wrong. We shot twenty threes and hit eleven.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Right.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
I'll take that efficiency absolutely now, and I assume they
will as well, because, like I said earlierf we're hitting threes,
it's just hard to beat us, and so I mean, Marcus,
I think of all the things he's done, what I
love the most is what he's done off the court,
which is what I expected because this is the kind
of person he is. He loves the school, he loves
(17:07):
this program. And think of all the places he's played, coached,
NBA College, Columbia Medical School, if you want to throw
that in there. Of all the things Mark's done, this
is this is like, this is his place. And I
think he's proven that to the fans, who rightfully so
we're doubters. Fairly so, I should say not rightfully, but
(17:28):
fairly so we're doubters. When his name got thrown out,
is who Barnhart was going after. And it's just been
fun to watch us beat teams that people didn't give
us a chance to beat, watch him weave together this
injury issue that we've had all year, especially since you know,
Kurr went out, but even before that, we were battling
some you know, little stuff. And not just because again,
(17:50):
he is a person, He's not going to say, well,
we got a tough break. He knows that's part of
the game, and he knows that what that does is
is it gives everyone else again. And and this is
what happened to me. It gives you walk on slash
your bench warmers, a chance to shine, or a chance
to be in the game when it matters. Is supposed
to be in the game when you're up thirty And
those are two entirely different things. And so he has
(18:13):
taken that. And you know, like you said, mess with
the lineup, try to figure out who's right, who needs
to play with who. But most importantly, we don't run
from the adversity because everyone's going to face it. So
you can use this excuse or you can embrace it
and say we're fighting through it. And that's what he's done.
And then he's also culturally. I mean, he has what
he said at his opening press conference, this is not
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my program, this is not the player's program. This is
our program. And he pointed to all twenty two thousand
people that were there. And I feel like for the fans,
more than anything, the wins obviously matter because UK fans
and wins clearly always matter and should, but I think
that's what they appreciate more than anything is that Marcus
come in and said, look, man, this isn't this isn't
my team. This isn't you know? This is our team,
(18:57):
you know, and he's been part of it as a fan.
You know, you went from player to fan to coach.
He's he's been on all sides of the fence and understands,
you know what, without these fans, crazy as they might be,
we're not Kentucky basketball doesn't exist the way it currently exists.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
When you were talking about the job he's done with
the roster, I thought it was need how he gave
a little peek behind the curtain on his radio show tonight,
and we kind of referenced this in the last segment
where guys have had to slide over and maybe play
a role, maybe it's the point guard of the one,
and he says, well, we've kind of retooled it and
we're bringing them in as the two, and then once
they get comfortable with flow, then we'll slide them over
(19:34):
where we want them to be. And I thought that
was a pretty neat peak behind the roster.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
I did too, because if my coach, as far as
I know, didn't do that, didn't do that with me
at any rate. But let's be fair, I could only
play one position. But I thought that was interesting of like,
you know, because you hear people talking about or asking
or questioning the lineups, the rotation, this, that and the other,
and I feel I always feel the need to explain
to peoples that, look, I get what you're seeing and
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what you're basing your opinion on. What so and so
needs to be in this group that group. You know that,
and why is he doing this way he does that.
All we get to see unless he gives us a
peak like he just did on a show, all we
get to see is the games. That's five percent of
what these dudes are seeing. There's ninety five percent of
practice that the coaches are basing. The analytics aren't just
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from games, they're from practice. They're keeping analytics in practice.
So he's basing his decisions about rotation, who goes in
for who when they go in on so much more
than just well, when so and so went in, we
had a plus minus of five as opposed to a
negative five. So that's the lineup that we should do.
If this one, well, look, he's he's playing four D
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chess constantly, it is, and he always has and as
a teammate, it was wonderful and maddening at the same time.
Because you're like, no one else was playing on his level.
No one was. That's right mentally.
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Coming up next here on the UK Sports Network, it
will be the season debut of the Nick menje Ownes Show.
We'll Chat in Kentucky Baseball's They'll have a bad year
last year? Did they oh a little run to Omaha
in the College World Series? Trying to do it again?
Cats are off to a twelve and to start. They
open SEC play at Georgia beginning Friday, so stay tuned.
Coming up next, it's the nick Menjianchow by the Way
(24:32):
Baseball has a home game tomorrow night against Kentucky Proud Park.
They'll take on Northern Illinois at six point thirty. That
was a game added because they lost one due to
the storms moving through last week, so they added NIU
home game tomorrow night at six thirty. We're chatting with
Cameron Mills. The Kentucky men's team will open SEC tournament
play Thursday night, approximately nine to thirty in Nashville. It's
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nine thirty Eastern against the winner of Georgia and Oklahoma.
They will play Wednesday night. Who would you rather them play?
I mean you asked me. I'd never like to answer
those questions.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Why you asked me? I had to answer.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I didn't ask you if you'd rather see Georgia Oklahoma?
Did you not? You?
Speaker 7 (25:11):
And I took it, and yeah, and you took and
you too. I would rather play Georgia. You don't want
to answer.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I mean, come, I don't want to give it any
material out material.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
I just's just saying who would you rather play. I'm
not saying Georgia, Darren Hendrick. They're gonna use it in
the locker. You know the game. You never know, that
is true. You don't. You don't know what a coach
I used to motivate a team, That's right.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
The random radio guy in Lexington is on the board
in the.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Georgia guy, well he does radio for the women's team,
that's right, so he wants to see George.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Let's use it to motivate us against the men we
talked earlier. And by the way, here's you a fun stat.
Kentucky seeks it's thirty third SEC Tournament championship if their
thirty two tournament titles are more than the rest of
the league combined. Of thirty one, Alabama has eight, Tennessee
has five, no by else with more than four.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
So I think it's the same way with regular season
conferences too. I mean it's I think we're in our
forties or maybe the fifties at some point.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So you and I have been talking about how difficult
the SEC Tournament is going to be because of all
the talent there, and in the past you kind of
hear about the NCAA tournament is easier in some aspects
because it's refreshing, you're facing new teams. Yeah, I imagine
this year it's it's not just the case of playing
somebody besides an SEC opponent, it's just playing well.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
I think you're right, But I also think it's the
relief of playing now as a team. You can't have
that attitude because you heard Mark sit right here and say,
as far as preparation, we prepare for the national championship
game the same way we prepare for the exhibition games.
Everything is consistent. That's that way you don't have these
ups and downs, or at least you're fighting the ups
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and downs. But yeah, no, I would think, I mean,
you know, here, here's the good thing about the SEC tournament,
or I guess where we can maybe draw some silver lining. Yeah, overall,
all the conference is a bear. And overall, I mean
I've seen some you know, bracketologists are saying thirteen teams in,
which is an absurd number, and that may happen, But
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in the tournament, you're only responsible for playing the team
that is on the other side of the court. That's right,
and you beat them, and then you beat the next
team and then you don't have to play all what
are we have eighteen teams, so seven you'd have to
play all seventeen. To win SEC tournament, you got to
beat the team that's across the court from you. And
then once that's done, then you find out. Well, in
our case, we'll know it'll be if we win, it'll
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be Alabama, right, and then you got to play Alabama,
so and we know. Look, and I think I think
we can beat Alabama. I think I think one of
the biggest gifts we have right now is that our
roster is set. There's no we're guessing, there's no we're
looking at that injury report before the game. Who's in,
who's out, who's likely, who's not. Now we may still
have injuries, but it's set. The coaches know that, the
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players know that. Let's move on from there. Cameron, always
fun to talk with you, buddy. I'm sure we'll do
it again before this season is done. Happy to postseason
is here. The SEC Tournament begins Thursday. Coming up next,
it's the nick Men's You Own Show. We appreciate Cameron
Mills joining us here tonight and again it's I'm going
to be close to a nine thirty tip Thursday Night.
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