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April 30, 2025 56 mins

This week, Martin is away filming so Gordon's brought in former professional rugby player, now a brilliant broadcast and summariser, and the rest of the time - guiding some high flying execs with their careers, Rory Lawson.

Rory talks about the legend that is his Papa Bill McLaren, how his brother brought Morph suits to the world and all about his rugby career on and off the pitch.

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