June 4, 2025 • 35 mins
This week, we talk to former Silver Fern captain Casey Kopua to discuss her coming out of retirement to play in Australia's Suncorp Super Netball.
Casey shares why she said 'yes' to the return, how she enjoyed being back on court and what the future holds for the remainder of the season.
We also look back at what we have dubbed 'The Blow Out Round' of the ANZ Premiership and take a look at this weekends match ups!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On inside, therefore getting you closer to the game you
love with Nadine Wilson, Anna Stanley and Jenny wood so
by news talks that'd be Jodi Koto and welcome to
Inside Netball. Well hard to believe. We are heading into
the halfway mark of this A and Z Premiership. Plenty
to get through today as we review what you could
only argue as being the blowout round. We had a
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silver fan legend come out of retirement who will chat
with very shortly, and the Magic Yeeha got their first
win of the competition. And we've got the full Inside
NETWLL team back on board today Jenny and a Dean
while ladies, I don't know what was more surprising Casey
Corpus is saying yes to the Giants coach Julie Fitzgerald
or the two am Z games being won by over
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twenty goals.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Jenny Well, I was actually more dismayed by the Mystics
loss to the Tactics by eleven, because the minute you
saw that Wollin wasn't there, I thought, oh my god,
this is Wiki being injured all over again last year
and my heart sank really.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And we don't know about wallin this still saying the
latest press release we've seen is she needs more specialist tests,
so obviously don't know that could be it. She may
have only played three games for the Mystics, but I
was so surprised but rapped that. Casey said, yes, I
think it is a very cool example of just putting
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yourself out there, giving a go, bringing that amazing experience
she never got to experience sn SCN she now has,
I think so cool. Well, I would have thought at
the ten to age of thirty nine she would have
been content on kicking back in mad noa matter running
around her after her three children, but no running around
on the netble court is what she knows. She has
one hundred and twelve test scaps to her name, is
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one of seven centurions to have played for the Ferns,
and she joins us now before she has to jump
back on a plane and head across the Testament to
reconnect with her new giants' teammates.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Inside that ball.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Welcome to inside Netble case Well, first, leagu lady, you
survived the sixty minutes out on court. Questions, how's the
body feeling? And secondly what exercise if we sort of
rewind back to a week before you got asked by Julie,
what would a typical exercise week have looked like for
Casey corpor to prepare herself for the Sun Corp.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, well, hello, it's definitely not not planned. But I
guess my week would have been. I go to the
gym five to six times a week.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That's why she's good, really.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Purely for my mental health, to set me up for
a good day, make me be a good mum and
just be in a better mood, and I guess be functional.
And then I was playing socially competitive netball once a
week at a club level.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Socially competitive, what does that look like? Socially competitive?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You still got to go hard if you need to,
and I was playing a goal tech role, so some
days it was good for fitness. Just have a good
run around, get a good blowout.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, so that really has allowed you. After sixty minutes
in the sun Corp, you're feeling not too bad.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, that was just purely I think my stubbornness in
my top two inches.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
You just had to get through it because.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I probably wasn't quite prepared that I would be on
there for sixty minutes to be honest, I wasn't even
prepared to start. Like in my head, I thought, you know, like, oh,
I went to training.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I thought cool, you know, like that went well.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I took those things off and made it through that
and then we'll just see how the game goes. And
the next minute starting goalkeeper, whole sixty minutes and I
was able to walk the next day.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
So it was winds all round for me.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But I know you obviously have an amazing relationship with Julie,
But but why did you say yes? Like what what
was it in you that went damn it, I'm just
going to do this because we know you were as
super busy lady. You've got a job, you've got children,
just you know why.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, I know, I know, And it was more like
why not? For me?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Was always something that I was intrigued by when I
was playing in New Zealand. Obviously you couldn't go over
there and play.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And I guess this.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Opportunity will never come around again. And probably the main
reason is losing my dad a couple of months ago.
And if he was here, he would have told me,
for loss, you've got to go.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
You cannot turn.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
This down and just do whatever you can pretty much
to make it work. And that's what we're doing, even
though we are both full time workers, three kids, coaching, training, yeah,
doing lots and lots of other stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
What is it about Julie Fitzgerald that she seems to
evoke this like you and you said yourself before the game,
you wouldn't have answered yes to any other coach? What
is it about her?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I feel like she is actually very similar to Knowles
and cares about you as a person, and she values
your worth.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
And she's just a really, really a kind.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Lady that you really want to work hard for and
you can commit to. And you know that she's as
passionate and as committed as what you are. So then
you've started sort of on the same level and.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
You know she's always going to have you back no
matter what.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So where was your hit at before you you ran
out onto the court? Were you excited?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Were you nervous?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Did your kids and husband give you any advice before
you win?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Out?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, like my my, my dad's words and Terry like
they always would just give it shit no matter what
when you get on that court, that's what you do.
But to be honest, I was bloody scared a like
it's so fast, and that first ball, like I for me,
I always go on there and you always say hello
to your opponent as like a sign of respect and
then almost like hey have a good game.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Like i'll see at the end sort of thing. She
didn't even didn't even acknowledge me.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I wondered what if she'd said or what you'd said.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
No, she said nothing, and I was like, oh my gosh,
that's so rude. Say hello, you know, like it's just
a game of netball, Say hello.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And then get on with it.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But I got nothing, and I thought, you know, like
me being stubborn, I was like, all right, off.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
That's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
She did the wrong thing. It was the wrong thing.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Carry said, she did the wrong thing.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Ticked off number one, like she already doesn't want to
talk to me.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Great, so they don't even do the huddles. I think
the team huddles at the end, and he says, yeah,
it's very separate.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, I don't know, it's different. Like I was like, cool,
like we're finished, let's get in a huddle. And even
like with the Giants, they sort of just wandered off.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I was like, hold on, we haven't like.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You know, had closure on this one, you know, to
go off sort of thing or that. I guess I'm
a bit of a not a touchy feely but you know,
like that sort of person. That's why you play knitballer
is for those sort of moments in the game her
And that probably shows my age a wee bit, but
that's what you know, you look forward to at the
end of the game, to celebrate the game of netball.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Two.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, do you think that's why? Because you know, as
you you know, on social media, some people go, oh,
you should bring in the young ones or you know,
against springing and experience, but exactly what you're talking about
is that why they bring in the experience, the people
that understand culture, that understand the wider picture of what
you can bring to the court that's not just your play.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, I think one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And I got a lot of private messages about me
stopping people's pathways and really.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So people message you like critically.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So this is the you know, the keyboard warriors that
put it on Facebook or put it out there, but
then there's ones that come at you behind the scenes.
And I actually forgot what that felt like for a
while and then I just sort of fed or like
I would never say that to anybody, and I'm just
trying to help out a friend here. She's asked me,
and I would never have said yes if I couldn't
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do it, so and I guess for me, that's a
part of me giving back to netball, as well as
sharing my experience and teaching the younger ones. You know,
a few tricks, which some of them are like, Wow,
I didn't even know you should do that.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's all, yeah, because it has quite a young squad,
isn't it. When Jamie Lee was off the court. I
think I read somewhere that the oldest was twenty three.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, so there's me and then Joe and then Jamie
Lee and the rest of the twenty three and under.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, what was it like playing with those two again,
Joe Harton and Jamie Lee Price.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Oh, it's awesome. It's like you never left, you know.
Last time, Jamie Lee was living with me as an
eighteen year old in Hamilton, and now she's nearly thirty.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I'm nearly forty, and we're at.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Different stages and it's just so.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Cool to see her.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Like she's grown up and developed and moving on with
her life as well.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
But she's also.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Still very passionate and very very committed to Nick, which
is really cool to see. And Joe, we always had
that banter and we would still do. And I kept
her accountable at training the other day and she's like, wow,
thank you. You know, like usually she would have shot something,
and I said.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Well, why don't you shoot it?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
And she was like, I didn't really have an answer,
And then we went back out and she shot the
lights out and I was like, well, there you go,
and she's like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Again, that's why they've got you there. Like for anyone
that questions why you bring in experience, I think you're
answering all of those critics. Exactly what you're saying is
certainly her leadership. So what does the next month look
like for your case? I know you're about to jump
on a plane and head across back to Sydney, But
have they locked you in for the next few weeks?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
We go week by week up until that first three
weeks of the replacements, but there's definitely an option for
me to go for the rest of the season over there.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And is that something you're quite keen to do? Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So I am as long as as long as like
Terry and I. Obviously we've shuffled and tried to work
our schedules and the villagers come back and to play again,
you know, and you need that village to help with
your children, and so we just yeah, we're making a
plan to see if that if that's something that they
want to do, then we can.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Be ready for that.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And like Terry and I have always said for each other,
if it's something you really want to do, we'll support
you and we'll make it work because it's something that
you love doing.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So why not?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And what has a kid said?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Especially Maya will be really conscious to be able to
watch you on TV. It's pretty special.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, they see the A n Z on TV and
they go, look, Mum, it's you. And I'm like, oh no,
that's not me, not me at all. And then when
I told them that they I was going to be
on TV and they could watch it. Luke, my youngest one,
he sat and watched the whole game. Terry said, because
he's the little Koala, he's the little one that's that
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the third child that's just a little clinger. And Myra
and William watched till halftime, and then I brought her,
brought them some gears home. They've worn it to school,
they've taken photos to share of.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Marm you know, being back on TV.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
So yeah, it's very cool, and that's that's another I
guess the reason I'm doing it as well is to
show them to be brave and put yourself back out
there out there and challenge yourself and maybe a little
bit of oh this is what Mum used to do.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Am I right in thinking you're playing the Firebirds this weekend?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Is that No, we're playing the Thunderbird.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Thunderbird, sorry, and that will be Ramelda, won't it. How
long is it since you've marked up against Ramelda?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I don't even think at the last World Cup I
didn't play against her because it was.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Janil and we didn't actually.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Play Jamaica, so long over years, six six or seven years,
long time.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And you've got to hang in there until you play
the Swifts because then you'll be up against Grace brilliant.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And I'm like, gosh, I still I can't jump like
I used to.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
So I'm going to figure out.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Some It's all about being in the right place at
the right time. From what we saw you were doing
that last week. In case, Hey, we've just got some
fast five questions to finish, questions that we ask all
our guests, so just answer them as quickly as you can.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Inside balls Fast five.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Best question case. If you could compete in any other sport,
what would it be and why?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Oh, I'd love to play volleyball.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I used to play that at school and really enjoyed
the fun factor of that. So and then just taking
the aggression out on the ball. That was that something
I used to love to do.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, Okay, If you.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Could invite three other athletes from any other sport, who
would they be to the country, any other country, anywhere
in the world, alive or dead.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I'd love Serena Williams.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I'd love to have dinner with her, Lebron James, just
even just to meet him.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And probably the other one would be Roger.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Federer tennis and basketball very strong. Yeah, yeah, and a
lot of people have been wanting to play volleyball. Now
with this Giants team, you probably don't know them that
well yet, but who in the team is most likely
to get you into trouble and out of trouble?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
The one that would get me into trouble would be Hope,
because she's an eighteen year old out the gate and
was saying that, you know, she wasn't even born when
I first started playing for.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
But someone that would get me out would be Joe.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, she's well I think she's experienced a talk out
of trouble here.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
If what would be your last supper meal? If you
had one last meal to have on this earth, case,
what would it be. It's going to have tomato sauce
in it, have.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
To go kidney and bacon, and how would it be? Cayzer,
That's that's like my Saturday breakfast. That's so so young
lambs fry. Yeah, but it's like.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
A very fun breakfast. I think, very approche. Yeah, Okay,
I think number five best piece of advice you were
ever given.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Don't say no?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Can I say two?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Of course you can, yes, So one would be fake
it till you make it, yeah, and then the other
one would be it's not what people see you do,
it's the stuff that you do behind the scenes that's
the most important.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Very good, very good love Hey case, Well, we loved
watching you on court last weekend. We're gonna love watching
you for the next few weeks. All the best and
hope the bod recovers.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Well, yeah, thank.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You very much, talking all things Nitball, inside Nedball, inside Neble.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Well lovely to hear from Casey. What a legend. I mean, really,
I can't believe at thirty nine should go back, but
body seems good. Fake it? Do you make it? Should
be faking it for for the next week while I
imagine how good hagn and I loved. You know, she's
obviously reasonably fit. She's been doing if she said, everybody
five five or six days a week, and I love
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that she emphasized why she did that, that was her
time out, you know, for her mental health. I think
that's really cool. So so much of what she said
I just found so inspiring. I held back the tears
a few times. Luckily, you know, I was trying to
not look at the camera because I just, you know,
you feel it was that's a feel good interview. I
felt really good coming away from that and hearing her
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reasons why she's there and what she's brought to the
you know, even just the fact that it's brought more
people talking about Netbull. That's stuff we love.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I love the bit about the interaction with Sophie Garbine
because I just thought, oh, that's so Australian, you know,
and I love the but Casey wouldn't have heard it.
But in commentary Kath Cox was just waxing lyrical about
her and I think at one point one of the
players fell over. These Australian players, well, i'll all be Australian,
and you know, Casey stopped to pick her up and
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and Cox says, o, O, case we don't do that
over here. It was it was funny.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I mean, she was pretty impressive because you know, you
can talk about if forty five I don't know if
if forty five really prepares you do you do lots
of jumping and agility any forty five like it's all
I would active and it's a good workout, but it's
nothing like running around on the netblele court. So obviously
it just naturally came back to her.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I wonder if being put at the goalkeeper because you're
not it's probably the least active.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, but you're still got that explosive that's when you
do your calves, you go touch words. But I didn't
just say that out loud today, but you know that's
that's still that real explosive.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You can read the game, and that's where she was
always so good at reading the game. And I could
see that she was talking to. Was that Aaron O'Brien
who'd moved to gold defense to make yeah, to make
way for her, and I think she would have learnt
so much.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
It's the netwile brain. Okay, Well, speaking about brains, let's
let's look at what went down over round four. It
was really the blowout round losing average of nineteen goals
across three three times three games. Let's let's start with
the tactics mystics. So I think, what did we all
picked Laus last week? Were you miss sticks?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You two?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think we went because so obviously no Wollom. It
was a sixty one fifty win to the Tactics. For me,
the Tactics a bit like the Magic just starting to
find their groove a little bit more. I really liked
the performance of tapaias alby Rickett. Her stats were really impressive,
and you look at her feeds and we often talk
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about how she needs to get in the circle quicker
because she congests the outside of the circle. She does
play a third feeding role and her feeds were thirty
one and if you compare that to the queen of
feeds over the course of four rounds, which would probably
be Toyava. I mean she sat on thirty seven, so
she's putting in just as close to as many feeds
as Toyava. So tp was impressive for me. And at
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the back fifty from.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Fifty from fifty, I was sort of but then I'm
not surprised. But then they missed three goals between them,
the whole team, you know, and I just wondered, if
the tactics are coming good.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's why we all picked them in our top three.
Well that's why we picked the Magic.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And the Magic are coming up slowly behind.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
They are, but interesting. I listened to Ali Bird on
an interview and someone asked her, you know why she's
just playing with such confidence at the moment, and she
said that she's removed all these limitations. She used to
be so hard on herself and have all these expectations,
and she's just gone into the air going, actually, I'm
just going to play. I'm not going to have all
these rules. And as a result, she's playing good netbol
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and it's a bit of a headache for Don's because
you know she's got salmon bird and TP.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Salmon got what four minutes? I mean, what do you
do with four minutes? I guess she has a plan.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
And it's good too, because I think what the tactics
have been smart as well as they haven't taken a
lot of two point shots because they haven't needed to.
They've just kept the score tacking over. So I think
they've been very clever about that tactic as well. So
obviously mistakes, no Wollom, big loss. They started with no
Makayla sokoletch beats.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I don't know what that was about. What on earth
was that about?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
But did she add anything when she came on?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Well?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I think she did. I mean I wouldn't you be
questioning if you went on without your captain and you
were told there was no, no, nothing wrong with it,
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Clearly it's form. That's why she wasn't starting.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
She's but she's been playing really well. I mean well,
in my opinion, I've thought she's been playing a good
wing defense game.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
She got just as many intercepts as her defenders. She
got a couple of intercepts, a few deflections, so she's
picking up ball. Yeah, I'm unsure as to why. I
just completely read that as they were giving TiO a
go and perhaps weren't happy with the way Mikayla had
been playing. But anyway, it was great that they got
her on the court and the second half. By then
it was too late. Mystics won the first quarter and
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the Tactics put their foot down for the last three.
No Toyava at goal attack in that game.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
She did though, didn't She didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
She went one.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Of two, one of two, and then I think it
was quickly decided that that was not.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You go across to the stats and then you just
quickly look at feeds thirty seven. There's a reason she
needs to be at wing attack. She's the master. Yeah,
And the reason why, I don't know. I'm not a
fan of her at goal attack. You've got Hannah Glean
who's actually been performing pretty well when she comes on
the court. She got sixteen from twenty eighty percent. I'd
be pretty miffed of us if I was here sitting
on the bench and then a wing attack goes in
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the shortest in the whole competition.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
She offers something so different, though, I mean, is that
what they're looking for just something so drastically different.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, wow, it didn't Maybe would work for the mystics.
Let's hope Wallam's wrist comes good, good soon. Okay, next
time Pulse versus the Steel. Now, this was a massive
you and I chose the Steel.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I was going with my heart, well, and I just
went with the vibe.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Right. They came back within seven at one point the Steel,
so they actually did quite well. But god, they got
seven in the first quarter and five in the last quarter.
I mean, attacking wise, that's pretty wife, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Look Leana Liota and Wendy Freu will be having nightmares
over this game. I mean it was so bizarre. I
mean that third quarter they won twenty one fourteen, but
as you say, then the final quarter, you know, what
on earth was going on? I mean, I just can't
explain it. I think the Pulse were very, very good,
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and you can't argue with the performance of Amelia Walmsley.
I mean, fifty from fifty one, but oh and the
two point shooting. I must mention two of Tiana Maturo
five from eight. So you know, I think they hit
the Pulse on a good day. Yeah, and I felt
for all that because apparently they had to bring more
seats into the stadium. But I hope they come back again.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well they do, they keep up. They are coming back
because they were going into that game only winning one
of twelve at home or something. But they're still turning
up the fans and that shows you how Louel they are.
But I agree with you, Jin, I think it said
more about the pulse. They are playing some beautiful netbull
That defensive trio, I know we talked about it last week.
Joannie Mason and Jackson so good, and I mean they
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know Alia done, they know how to play Alia that
she's used to being in their team, and I think
they are just stepping it up the setting the standard
defensively for the whole competition. And that's why they still
only put up five goals or shot or got in
five goals in that last quarter. Had done twenty four
from thirty four the week before. She was forty one
from forty two. So they really starved her of the ball.
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And that was telling, and that was Jackson and Mason.
But perhaps you know a good indication that start. It's
so hugely important. I think I switched on the TV
when it was three to fourteen, and I thought, oh god,
hard to come back from that when you know you're
that far behind after fifteen minutes of netball. So but
I think we'll agree that the steel will get better.
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And it was just one of those games that you
just want to park up.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Which just find it inexplicable because they had been so
good and then they've just taken a plunge.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well, this is what we're noticing across the course of
the Azy Premiership, the inconsistencies. If you were Nolling Total
and you've got to pick a Ferns team at the
end of this, you'd be pretty disappointed with the way
or the lack of consistency amongst a lot of the
top players. It's I mean, I think that's that's how
I'm going to use it as an excuse where I
were finding it hard to pick winners because you honestly
(23:43):
don't know. I feel like it's just taken a hit.
What do we know, questioning myself, Yeah, it's been. I
think that's I think you've an though, it's been the inconsistency.
One week, a team just plays the Stars two weeks
ago were phenomenal again this week if you look at
their last quarter against the Magic they only got eight goals.
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It was twenty two eight against Magic Stars. So why
are we having these huge swings it is It is
crazy and that seems to be something we are seeing
this year in this premiership. Well, the Magic Stars the
last game, I think I commentated this one. Loved watching
it because this is the reason why we all had
the Magic in our top three. For me, watching Toui
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and Echinaco back to their best, and I said it
in commentary, on any given day, those two are the
best shooting combination across the AZ Premiership. For one, because
I as a player, I loved playing with fast, edgile,
accurate shooters. I love watching fast shooters. I love the rotation,
you know, I don't just love seeing teams bombit into
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shooters at the back. And that's what Toy was so
good at. She's so edgile, she can jump. She showed
her elevation. So for me, that attacking six eight from
seventy five, you compare that to the previous week where
they were forty from forty eight. So they got service
of ball and they're attacking were humming.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Gin Well they were, and I bet you what Savia too,
he would have said hello to Casey.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes, she would have given.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yes, I think so. But of course they also too.
They've got the comfort of knowing they're playing the Stars
again next week, so you know that'll be quite good.
But the thing that I know, well, it couldn't help.
But notice it was that the Stars didn't score for
the final five minutes of that game. There was just
nothing going on.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Eleven points eleven points the Magic scored and that's right.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So you know, I you'd like to think that, you know,
MJ's got them going nicely down the highway and that
they'll continue. Well.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I hope Nolan's watching Georgie Edgcumbe because her at wing
defense has been outstanding. Her numbers again, intercepts, deflections, pack up,
she was everywhere. And we've spoken about before Gin. You
know that wing defense position. If they they can make
such a massive influence, like we've talked about Yuani as
well off, it can be hard to make an effronce. Absolutely,
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and that's why I think when you are and you
were picking up so much ball, that just shows what
influence she's having, and not only on defense. I love
the way she's bringing the ball through court. I always
used to last year sometimes be worried about her attacking play.
I'm not worried at all. She looks confident, she's driving
it through, she's got great vision, and it's all coming
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together what we thought we were going to see from
the Magic after such a good preseason. It's taken them
a few rounds. They studn't hit a stride and talking
about stats, Claire O'Brien, forty seven feeds if we're looking
at you know the numbers, So we are consistently sits
around thirty seven, thirty eight Claire O'Brien. In the last
two weeks. It was forty eight feeds last week, forty
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seven feeds this week. So I think she's making a
difference as well. In that goal circle. She's getting good
service of ball in to twy and Ichanacio on the
flip side the Stars. For me, Charlie Bow she can
be good. I mean I did that Mystic Stars game
in the first round and she was very strong under
the hoe. I was like, Wow, this is going to
be good for the Stars, but it was. She dropped
(27:15):
a few balls in that game. She looked vulnerable under
the hope I think I.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Looked vulnerable if I was being marked by Nkyrie.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And they really had no answers, so she had to
go to the bench, and that's when Wilson and Faulkner
came on. And perhaps maybe that could have happened a
little bit earlier because she just looked like she wasn't
herself the whole game.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well, the good news for the Stars is, as you
will know, is that Kate Burley is coming back next week,
or says she is. And that was great hearing from
her directly. But you know, they had that shocking start
to the season and then they you know, they came
back and they got that win and then you thought,
all right, they're going to be all right. But now,
you know, I'm just not quite so sure. I mean,
(27:58):
Kate Burley is only one player. She's a very strong player.
But let's hope she can bring that defensive end into
some kind of uniformity.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
And it will be interesting do they keep Kayla Johnson?
You know, when you've got Kate coming back, will they
keep her there? Because you know, when it comes down
to it, that costs by bringing in another player and
keeping that other player. It's money. As we know, there's
not a whole lot of money going around right at
this moment, so do you keep her? You know, we've
just talked about keeping experienced players within the Macks. Well,
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Burley and Johnson on the on the line would be
pretty impressive, woun't it, Burley Goldie, Yeah, who is normally
goal keep remy, come remy. You can afford it, yes.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, buddy, Casey is getting oh good.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, I don't know those contracts. I wonder what you
just hope with Casey that and I know she won't,
but you just don't want that legacy of hers to
be compromised by going back and playing right. She's had
such a stellar Career's allegied one hundred and twelve Test caps,
she's a centurion, and you just hope that legacy is
(29:06):
not compromised by going back. I don't think it will.
Because people think it's compromising, then they don't understanding. So
that I always going to know when your time's up
as well, you know, like Jiva Mentors just just retired
after how many years? Yeah, but I love that like
for me, as we heard her say, she's doing it
for all the right reasons. Who gives us stuff if
you have. Maybe she's not going to play like she
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used to play. That is, she knows that, that's we
all know that. But she's picking up enough. But and
I just I love her reasoning for going back and
doing it. And it's not just what she's doing on court.
For me, it's everything around that court. Is the experience
she's bringing to that that wide a groupment. And perhaps
that's what Kayla's bringing as well to the stars, that
experience of what it feels like to be down, how
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you pull yourself back up, how you have to just
lift up when you have been smoked a couple of
weeks in a row. And that's the experience piece. I
think that's one of the one of the biggest reasons
why Julie FitzGeralds brought her back is for that leadership.
You know, as she said, such a young squad. When
Jamie Lee left the court the other day, there was
that the oldest player was twenty three. So I reckon
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she's been given some instructions to go in there and
help with the culture, help with the experience, and keep
people accountable. How good was it Helen Howsboro, She hasn't
seen her for aging She's like, mate, why didn't you
shoot it like brilliant? Love it? No one else is going.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
To say hard I think Joe Harden, Sorry Joe Harder,
but I think too, what is the Jolie still going?
She younger than she must be late foes, no mint
to late Jeeva mentor Let's just talk about her quickly
because she has retired. She's going to ended the twenty
five season, one hundred and seventy five tests for England,
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twenty four year career, fifteen seasons in Australia, six Commonwealth Games,
six World Cups.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I mean sex Adean, I remember, do you remember? And
I thought that was a lot. Does it say when
her debut was, because I don't know if this was
her debut was the first I'm playing in New Zealand,
I was still playing, yes, And I remember because she
was against Irene and I remember this young girls in
Palmerston North and she came on against Irene and I'll
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be honest, she was terrible and I was thinking, this
is excellent. I could just throw this ball in, there's
no problem. Well, she certainly wasn't terrible. The next time
when we played England, she was outstanding and I think
she's gone on to have a phenomenal career and six
has anyone else played sex Gene, You're good at these
sorts of staffs. He's the midy from England.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, yes, Jade Clark.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Very long.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
But she has showed what's that word? She's been traveling
across three continents to play in this.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
She suld play in New Zealand? Did she didn't she
even know? Not for New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
She the Vixens.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I think Buxton's Magpies Lightning. I think she's around, but.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I mean she's I think she's living in France now,
living in her bloke and traveling so far just to
get to each game, and I mean extraordinary efforts.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, so maybe sure.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I think she get it deserved, deserzar rests.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And imagine how first ankles have been strapped for twenty
five years or so. I mean, those poor ankles, because
I've got calves that have got dents in them, permanent
dents from wearing ankle braces my whole life. I have
permanent deeps. She probably laser from, you know, halfway down
your calf because it's been stripped off by all that
take the whole time okay, Well, looking ahead to round five,
(32:34):
of course, that's the halfway mark, which means all the
teams are playing each other for the second time. And
we just talked about earlier Stars Magic they were last
round and they are backing it up again. You both
are doing that one at Paul mind arena. Who are
we picking for that one? Well, I mean, how can
you go past the Magic? Yeah, I'm just can't get past.
(32:55):
I'm mad Joe, And.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
If they keep playing like that, I think my prediction
will come true.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, I do hate that they only played last week
and they're playing yet. I know there'll be a reason
about venues, but it's still a little bit yick. But anyway,
I'm definitely Magic. Yeah, I'm magic too. I reckon they're
getting their mojo back and they're going to kick on
Pulse mistakes.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
The last time these two teams meet, remember the Pulse
were sort of all out of sorts and the Mystics
won that. But I think with obviously no Wallom, there's
that real injury cloud around that rest of hers, which
I hope it's not significant, because if they lose her
for the rest of the year, that's going to be
quite a biggie, I'm going pulse for that one.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, me too, And I think again it's got You know,
it looks a bit similar to the Wiki thing last
year when she was out for a few weeks and
they just I don't think they're won without her.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It looked like though, when she did go down, it
looked like they'd strapped it up and she was about
to come down on the phi. Do you know what
adrenaline's like though, When you first do an and jury,
you go oh, and then you're like no, no, I'm good,
and then you cool down and you're like, oh, maybe
not so Apparently she's broken that risk before, and if
it is right near that skaphoid bone, apparently that can
be quite harmful because it's gone hasn't got much good
(34:06):
blood supply. So let's hope that she's okay. Who are
you going? And Dan pulse on the stacks, Pulse, pulse absolutely.
And then the Battle of the South Steel versus Tactics.
That was the first round, wasn't it when the Tactics
beat the Steel in christ Church? This one's an in Vicago. Well,
I'm going to Tactics for that one.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, look, I'm me too. I mean, how could you
go against the Tactics at the moment.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, it's it's a little bit scary. I'm almost scared
that this is going to be another blowout round. To
be honest, I'm hoping it's not. I hope we see
some of those two pointers. They keep it close. But Tactics, Tactics,
Pulse Magic, they're all playing well. They're all heading their
straps as they hit that halfway mark, and I think
they're all going to take take the win. And we've
picked our top seven from the round and a lot
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of those players that we've picked have come from those
teams that performed very well. So you can watch watch
out for those on our social media b social media,
you'll see our starting seven. Well that's it from us.
We look forward to having your company once again next week.
Until then, remember you can download Inside Nevil on iHeartRadio
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On inside, therefore getting you closer to the game you
love with Nadine Wilson, Anna Stanley and Jenny wood so
by news talks that'd be Jodi Koto and welcome to
Inside Netball. Well hard to believe. We are heading into
the halfway mark of this A and Z Premiership. Plenty
to get through today as we review what you could
only argue as being the blowout round. We had a
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silver fan legend come out of retirement who will chat
with very shortly, and the Magic Yeeha got their first
win of the competition. And we've got the full Inside
NETWLL team back on board today Jenny and a Dean
while ladies, I don't know what was more surprising Casey
Corpus is saying yes to the Giants coach Julie Fitzgerald
or the two am Z games being won by over
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twenty goals.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Jenny Well, I was actually more dismayed by the Mystics
loss to the Tactics by eleven, because the minute you
saw that Wollin wasn't there, I thought, oh my god,
this is Wiki being injured all over again last year
and my heart sank really.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And we don't know about wallin this still saying the
latest press release we've seen is she needs more specialist tests,
so obviously don't know that could be it. She may
have only played three games for the Mystics, but I
was so surprised but rapped that. Casey said, yes, I
think it is a very cool example of just putting
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yourself out there, giving a go, bringing that amazing experience
she never got to experience sn SCN she now has,
I think so cool. Well, I would have thought at
the ten to age of thirty nine she would have
been content on kicking back in mad noa matter running
around her after her three children, but no running around
on the netble court is what she knows. She has
one hundred and twelve test scaps to her name, is
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one of seven centurions to have played for the Ferns,
and she joins us now before she has to jump
back on a plane and head across the Testament to
reconnect with her new giants' teammates.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Inside that ball.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Welcome to inside Netble case Well, first, leagu lady, you
survived the sixty minutes out on court. Questions, how's the
body feeling? And secondly what exercise if we sort of
rewind back to a week before you got asked by Julie,
what would a typical exercise week have looked like for
Casey corpor to prepare herself for the Sun Corp.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, well, hello, it's definitely not not planned. But I
guess my week would have been. I go to the
gym five to six times a week.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That's why she's good, really.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Purely for my mental health, to set me up for
a good day, make me be a good mum and
just be in a better mood, and I guess be functional.
And then I was playing socially competitive netball once a
week at a club level.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Socially competitive, what does that look like? Socially competitive?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You still got to go hard if you need to,
and I was playing a goal tech role, so some
days it was good for fitness. Just have a good
run around, get a good blowout.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, so that really has allowed you. After sixty minutes
in the sun Corp, you're feeling not too bad.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, that was just purely I think my stubbornness in
my top two inches.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
You just had to get through it because.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I probably wasn't quite prepared that I would be on
there for sixty minutes to be honest, I wasn't even
prepared to start. Like in my head, I thought, you know, like, oh,
I went to training.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I thought cool, you know, like that went well.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I took those things off and made it through that
and then we'll just see how the game goes. And
the next minute starting goalkeeper, whole sixty minutes and I
was able to walk the next day.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
So it was winds all round for me.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But I know you obviously have an amazing relationship with Julie,
But but why did you say yes? Like what what
was it in you that went damn it, I'm just
going to do this because we know you were as
super busy lady. You've got a job, you've got children,
just you know why.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, I know, I know, And it was more like
why not? For me?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Was always something that I was intrigued by when I
was playing in New Zealand. Obviously you couldn't go over
there and play.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And I guess this.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Opportunity will never come around again. And probably the main
reason is losing my dad a couple of months ago.
And if he was here, he would have told me,
for loss, you've got to go.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
You cannot turn.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
This down and just do whatever you can pretty much
to make it work. And that's what we're doing, even
though we are both full time workers, three kids, coaching, training, yeah,
doing lots and lots of other stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
What is it about Julie Fitzgerald that she seems to
evoke this like you and you said yourself before the game,
you wouldn't have answered yes to any other coach? What
is it about her?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I feel like she is actually very similar to Knowles
and cares about you as a person, and she values
your worth.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
And she's just a really, really a kind.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Lady that you really want to work hard for and
you can commit to. And you know that she's as
passionate and as committed as what you are. So then
you've started sort of on the same level and.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
You know she's always going to have you back no
matter what.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So where was your hit at before you you ran
out onto the court? Were you excited?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Were you nervous?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Did your kids and husband give you any advice before
you win?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Out?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, like my my, my dad's words and Terry like
they always would just give it shit no matter what
when you get on that court, that's what you do.
But to be honest, I was bloody scared a like
it's so fast, and that first ball, like I for me,
I always go on there and you always say hello
to your opponent as like a sign of respect and
then almost like hey have a good game.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Like i'll see at the end sort of thing. She
didn't even didn't even acknowledge me.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I wondered what if she'd said or what you'd said.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
No, she said nothing, and I was like, oh my gosh,
that's so rude. Say hello, you know, like it's just
a game of netball, Say hello.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And then get on with it.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But I got nothing, and I thought, you know, like
me being stubborn, I was like, all right, off.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
That's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
She did the wrong thing. It was the wrong thing.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Carry said, she did the wrong thing.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Ticked off number one, like she already doesn't want to
talk to me.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Great, so they don't even do the huddles. I think
the team huddles at the end, and he says, yeah,
it's very separate.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, I don't know, it's different. Like I was like, cool,
like we're finished, let's get in a huddle. And even
like with the Giants, they sort of just wandered off.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I was like, hold on, we haven't like.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You know, had closure on this one, you know, to
go off sort of thing or that. I guess I'm
a bit of a not a touchy feely but you know,
like that sort of person. That's why you play knitballer
is for those sort of moments in the game her
And that probably shows my age a wee bit, but
that's what you know, you look forward to at the
end of the game, to celebrate the game of netball.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Two.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, do you think that's why? Because you know, as
you you know, on social media, some people go, oh,
you should bring in the young ones or you know,
against springing and experience, but exactly what you're talking about
is that why they bring in the experience, the people
that understand culture, that understand the wider picture of what
you can bring to the court that's not just your play.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, I think one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And I got a lot of private messages about me
stopping people's pathways and really.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So people message you like critically.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So this is the you know, the keyboard warriors that
put it on Facebook or put it out there, but
then there's ones that come at you behind the scenes.
And I actually forgot what that felt like for a
while and then I just sort of fed or like
I would never say that to anybody, and I'm just
trying to help out a friend here. She's asked me,
and I would never have said yes if I couldn't
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do it, so and I guess for me, that's a
part of me giving back to netball, as well as
sharing my experience and teaching the younger ones. You know,
a few tricks, which some of them are like, Wow,
I didn't even know you should do that.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's all, yeah, because it has quite a young squad,
isn't it. When Jamie Lee was off the court. I
think I read somewhere that the oldest was twenty three.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, so there's me and then Joe and then Jamie
Lee and the rest of the twenty three and under.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, what was it like playing with those two again,
Joe Harton and Jamie Lee Price.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Oh, it's awesome. It's like you never left, you know.
Last time, Jamie Lee was living with me as an
eighteen year old in Hamilton, and now she's nearly thirty.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I'm nearly forty, and we're at.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Different stages and it's just so.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Cool to see her.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Like she's grown up and developed and moving on with
her life as well.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
But she's also.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Still very passionate and very very committed to Nick, which
is really cool to see. And Joe, we always had
that banter and we would still do. And I kept
her accountable at training the other day and she's like, wow,
thank you. You know, like usually she would have shot something,
and I said.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Well, why don't you shoot it?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
And she was like, I didn't really have an answer,
And then we went back out and she shot the
lights out and I was like, well, there you go,
and she's like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Again, that's why they've got you there. Like for anyone
that questions why you bring in experience, I think you're
answering all of those critics. Exactly what you're saying is
certainly her leadership. So what does the next month look
like for your case? I know you're about to jump
on a plane and head across back to Sydney, But
have they locked you in for the next few weeks?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
We go week by week up until that first three
weeks of the replacements, but there's definitely an option for
me to go for the rest of the season over there.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And is that something you're quite keen to do? Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So I am as long as as long as like
Terry and I. Obviously we've shuffled and tried to work
our schedules and the villagers come back and to play again,
you know, and you need that village to help with
your children, and so we just yeah, we're making a
plan to see if that if that's something that they
want to do, then we can.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Be ready for that.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And like Terry and I have always said for each other,
if it's something you really want to do, we'll support
you and we'll make it work because it's something that
you love doing.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So why not?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And what has a kid said?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Especially Maya will be really conscious to be able to
watch you on TV. It's pretty special.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, they see the A n Z on TV and
they go, look, Mum, it's you. And I'm like, oh no,
that's not me, not me at all. And then when
I told them that they I was going to be
on TV and they could watch it. Luke, my youngest one,
he sat and watched the whole game. Terry said, because
he's the little Koala, he's the little one that's that
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the third child that's just a little clinger. And Myra
and William watched till halftime, and then I brought her,
brought them some gears home. They've worn it to school,
they've taken photos to share of.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Marm you know, being back on TV.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
So yeah, it's very cool, and that's that's another I
guess the reason I'm doing it as well is to
show them to be brave and put yourself back out
there out there and challenge yourself and maybe a little
bit of oh this is what Mum used to do.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Am I right in thinking you're playing the Firebirds this weekend?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Is that No, we're playing the Thunderbird.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Thunderbird, sorry, and that will be Ramelda, won't it. How
long is it since you've marked up against Ramelda?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I don't even think at the last World Cup I
didn't play against her because it was.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Janil and we didn't actually.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Play Jamaica, so long over years, six six or seven years,
long time.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And you've got to hang in there until you play
the Swifts because then you'll be up against Grace brilliant.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And I'm like, gosh, I still I can't jump like
I used to.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
So I'm going to figure out.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Some It's all about being in the right place at
the right time. From what we saw you were doing
that last week. In case, Hey, we've just got some
fast five questions to finish, questions that we ask all
our guests, so just answer them as quickly as you can.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Inside balls Fast five.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Best question case. If you could compete in any other sport,
what would it be and why?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Oh, I'd love to play volleyball.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I used to play that at school and really enjoyed
the fun factor of that. So and then just taking
the aggression out on the ball. That was that something
I used to love to do.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, Okay, If you.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Could invite three other athletes from any other sport, who
would they be to the country, any other country, anywhere
in the world, alive or dead.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I'd love Serena Williams.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I'd love to have dinner with her, Lebron James, just
even just to meet him.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And probably the other one would be Roger.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Federer tennis and basketball very strong. Yeah, yeah, and a
lot of people have been wanting to play volleyball. Now
with this Giants team, you probably don't know them that
well yet, but who in the team is most likely
to get you into trouble and out of trouble?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
The one that would get me into trouble would be Hope,
because she's an eighteen year old out the gate and
was saying that, you know, she wasn't even born when
I first started playing for.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
But someone that would get me out would be Joe.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, she's well I think she's experienced a talk out
of trouble here.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
If what would be your last supper meal? If you
had one last meal to have on this earth, case,
what would it be. It's going to have tomato sauce
in it, have.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
To go kidney and bacon, and how would it be? Cayzer,
That's that's like my Saturday breakfast. That's so so young
lambs fry. Yeah, but it's like.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
A very fun breakfast. I think, very approche. Yeah, Okay,
I think number five best piece of advice you were
ever given.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Don't say no?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Can I say two?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Of course you can, yes, So one would be fake
it till you make it, yeah, and then the other
one would be it's not what people see you do,
it's the stuff that you do behind the scenes that's
the most important.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Very good, very good love Hey case, Well, we loved
watching you on court last weekend. We're gonna love watching
you for the next few weeks. All the best and
hope the bod recovers.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Well, yeah, thank.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You very much, talking all things Nitball, inside Nedball, inside Neble.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Well lovely to hear from Casey. What a legend. I mean, really,
I can't believe at thirty nine should go back, but
body seems good. Fake it? Do you make it? Should
be faking it for for the next week while I
imagine how good hagn and I loved. You know, she's
obviously reasonably fit. She's been doing if she said, everybody
five five or six days a week, and I love
(15:10):
that she emphasized why she did that, that was her
time out, you know, for her mental health. I think
that's really cool. So so much of what she said
I just found so inspiring. I held back the tears
a few times. Luckily, you know, I was trying to
not look at the camera because I just, you know,
you feel it was that's a feel good interview. I
felt really good coming away from that and hearing her
(15:31):
reasons why she's there and what she's brought to the
you know, even just the fact that it's brought more
people talking about Netbull. That's stuff we love.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I love the bit about the interaction with Sophie Garbine
because I just thought, oh, that's so Australian, you know,
and I love the but Casey wouldn't have heard it.
But in commentary Kath Cox was just waxing lyrical about
her and I think at one point one of the
players fell over. These Australian players, well, i'll all be Australian,
and you know, Casey stopped to pick her up and
(16:01):
and Cox says, o, O, case we don't do that
over here. It was it was funny.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I mean, she was pretty impressive because you know, you
can talk about if forty five I don't know if
if forty five really prepares you do you do lots
of jumping and agility any forty five like it's all
I would active and it's a good workout, but it's
nothing like running around on the netblele court. So obviously
it just naturally came back to her.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I wonder if being put at the goalkeeper because you're
not it's probably the least active.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, but you're still got that explosive that's when you
do your calves, you go touch words. But I didn't
just say that out loud today, but you know that's
that's still that real explosive.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You can read the game, and that's where she was
always so good at reading the game. And I could
see that she was talking to. Was that Aaron O'Brien
who'd moved to gold defense to make yeah, to make
way for her, and I think she would have learnt
so much.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
It's the netwile brain. Okay, Well, speaking about brains, let's
let's look at what went down over round four. It
was really the blowout round losing average of nineteen goals
across three three times three games. Let's let's start with
the tactics mystics. So I think, what did we all
picked Laus last week? Were you miss sticks?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You two?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think we went because so obviously no Wollom. It
was a sixty one fifty win to the Tactics. For me,
the Tactics a bit like the Magic just starting to
find their groove a little bit more. I really liked
the performance of tapaias alby Rickett. Her stats were really impressive,
and you look at her feeds and we often talk
(17:36):
about how she needs to get in the circle quicker
because she congests the outside of the circle. She does
play a third feeding role and her feeds were thirty
one and if you compare that to the queen of
feeds over the course of four rounds, which would probably
be Toyava. I mean she sat on thirty seven, so
she's putting in just as close to as many feeds
as Toyava. So tp was impressive for me. And at
(18:00):
the back fifty from.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Fifty from fifty, I was sort of but then I'm
not surprised. But then they missed three goals between them,
the whole team, you know, and I just wondered, if
the tactics are coming good.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's why we all picked them in our top three.
Well that's why we picked the Magic.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And the Magic are coming up slowly behind.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
They are, but interesting. I listened to Ali Bird on
an interview and someone asked her, you know why she's
just playing with such confidence at the moment, and she
said that she's removed all these limitations. She used to
be so hard on herself and have all these expectations,
and she's just gone into the air going, actually, I'm
just going to play. I'm not going to have all
these rules. And as a result, she's playing good netbol
(18:46):
and it's a bit of a headache for Don's because
you know she's got salmon bird and TP.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Salmon got what four minutes? I mean, what do you
do with four minutes? I guess she has a plan.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
And it's good too, because I think what the tactics
have been smart as well as they haven't taken a
lot of two point shots because they haven't needed to.
They've just kept the score tacking over. So I think
they've been very clever about that tactic as well. So
obviously mistakes, no Wollom, big loss. They started with no
Makayla sokoletch beats.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I don't know what that was about. What on earth
was that about?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
But did she add anything when she came on?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Well?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I think she did. I mean I wouldn't you be
questioning if you went on without your captain and you
were told there was no, no, nothing wrong with it,
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Clearly it's form. That's why she wasn't starting.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
She's but she's been playing really well. I mean well,
in my opinion, I've thought she's been playing a good
wing defense game.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
She got just as many intercepts as her defenders. She
got a couple of intercepts, a few deflections, so she's
picking up ball. Yeah, I'm unsure as to why. I
just completely read that as they were giving TiO a
go and perhaps weren't happy with the way Mikayla had
been playing. But anyway, it was great that they got
her on the court and the second half. By then
it was too late. Mystics won the first quarter and
(20:04):
the Tactics put their foot down for the last three.
No Toyava at goal attack in that game.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
She did though, didn't She didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
She went one.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Of two, one of two, and then I think it
was quickly decided that that was not.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You go across to the stats and then you just
quickly look at feeds thirty seven. There's a reason she
needs to be at wing attack. She's the master. Yeah,
And the reason why, I don't know. I'm not a
fan of her at goal attack. You've got Hannah Glean
who's actually been performing pretty well when she comes on
the court. She got sixteen from twenty eighty percent. I'd
be pretty miffed of us if I was here sitting
on the bench and then a wing attack goes in
(20:42):
the shortest in the whole competition.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
She offers something so different, though, I mean, is that
what they're looking for just something so drastically different.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, wow, it didn't Maybe would work for the mystics.
Let's hope Wallam's wrist comes good, good soon. Okay, next
time Pulse versus the Steel. Now, this was a massive
you and I chose the Steel.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I was going with my heart, well, and I just
went with the vibe.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Right. They came back within seven at one point the Steel,
so they actually did quite well. But god, they got
seven in the first quarter and five in the last quarter.
I mean, attacking wise, that's pretty wife, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Look Leana Liota and Wendy Freu will be having nightmares
over this game. I mean it was so bizarre. I
mean that third quarter they won twenty one fourteen, but
as you say, then the final quarter, you know, what
on earth was going on? I mean, I just can't
explain it. I think the Pulse were very, very good,
(21:45):
and you can't argue with the performance of Amelia Walmsley.
I mean, fifty from fifty one, but oh and the
two point shooting. I must mention two of Tiana Maturo
five from eight. So you know, I think they hit
the Pulse on a good day. Yeah, and I felt
for all that because apparently they had to bring more
seats into the stadium. But I hope they come back again.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well they do, they keep up. They are coming back
because they were going into that game only winning one
of twelve at home or something. But they're still turning
up the fans and that shows you how Louel they are.
But I agree with you, Jin, I think it said
more about the pulse. They are playing some beautiful netbull
That defensive trio, I know we talked about it last week.
Joannie Mason and Jackson so good, and I mean they
(22:31):
know Alia done, they know how to play Alia that
she's used to being in their team, and I think
they are just stepping it up the setting the standard
defensively for the whole competition. And that's why they still
only put up five goals or shot or got in
five goals in that last quarter. Had done twenty four
from thirty four the week before. She was forty one
from forty two. So they really starved her of the ball.
(22:54):
And that was telling, and that was Jackson and Mason.
But perhaps you know a good indication that start. It's
so hugely important. I think I switched on the TV
when it was three to fourteen, and I thought, oh god,
hard to come back from that when you know you're
that far behind after fifteen minutes of netball. So but
I think we'll agree that the steel will get better.
(23:14):
And it was just one of those games that you
just want to park up.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Which just find it inexplicable because they had been so
good and then they've just taken a plunge.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well, this is what we're noticing across the course of
the Azy Premiership, the inconsistencies. If you were Nolling Total
and you've got to pick a Ferns team at the
end of this, you'd be pretty disappointed with the way
or the lack of consistency amongst a lot of the
top players. It's I mean, I think that's that's how
I'm going to use it as an excuse where I
were finding it hard to pick winners because you honestly
(23:43):
don't know. I feel like it's just taken a hit.
What do we know, questioning myself, Yeah, it's been. I
think that's I think you've an though, it's been the inconsistency.
One week, a team just plays the Stars two weeks
ago were phenomenal again this week if you look at
their last quarter against the Magic they only got eight goals.
(24:06):
It was twenty two eight against Magic Stars. So why
are we having these huge swings it is It is
crazy and that seems to be something we are seeing
this year in this premiership. Well, the Magic Stars the
last game, I think I commentated this one. Loved watching
it because this is the reason why we all had
the Magic in our top three. For me, watching Toui
(24:29):
and Echinaco back to their best, and I said it
in commentary, on any given day, those two are the
best shooting combination across the AZ Premiership. For one, because
I as a player, I loved playing with fast, edgile,
accurate shooters. I love watching fast shooters. I love the rotation,
you know, I don't just love seeing teams bombit into
(24:51):
shooters at the back. And that's what Toy was so
good at. She's so edgile, she can jump. She showed
her elevation. So for me, that attacking six eight from
seventy five, you compare that to the previous week where
they were forty from forty eight. So they got service
of ball and they're attacking were humming.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Gin Well they were, and I bet you what Savia too,
he would have said hello to Casey.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes, she would have given.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yes, I think so. But of course they also too.
They've got the comfort of knowing they're playing the Stars
again next week, so you know that'll be quite good.
But the thing that I know, well, it couldn't help.
But notice it was that the Stars didn't score for
the final five minutes of that game. There was just
nothing going on.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Eleven points eleven points the Magic scored and that's right.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So you know, I you'd like to think that, you know,
MJ's got them going nicely down the highway and that
they'll continue. Well.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I hope Nolan's watching Georgie Edgcumbe because her at wing
defense has been outstanding. Her numbers again, intercepts, deflections, pack up,
she was everywhere. And we've spoken about before Gin. You
know that wing defense position. If they they can make
such a massive influence, like we've talked about Yuani as
well off, it can be hard to make an effronce. Absolutely,
(26:10):
and that's why I think when you are and you
were picking up so much ball, that just shows what
influence she's having, and not only on defense. I love
the way she's bringing the ball through court. I always
used to last year sometimes be worried about her attacking play.
I'm not worried at all. She looks confident, she's driving
it through, she's got great vision, and it's all coming
(26:32):
together what we thought we were going to see from
the Magic after such a good preseason. It's taken them
a few rounds. They studn't hit a stride and talking
about stats, Claire O'Brien, forty seven feeds if we're looking
at you know the numbers, So we are consistently sits
around thirty seven, thirty eight Claire O'Brien. In the last
two weeks. It was forty eight feeds last week, forty
(26:52):
seven feeds this week. So I think she's making a
difference as well. In that goal circle. She's getting good
service of ball in to twy and Ichanacio on the
flip side the Stars. For me, Charlie Bow she can
be good. I mean I did that Mystic Stars game
in the first round and she was very strong under
the hoe. I was like, Wow, this is going to
be good for the Stars, but it was. She dropped
(27:15):
a few balls in that game. She looked vulnerable under
the hope I think I.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Looked vulnerable if I was being marked by Nkyrie.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And they really had no answers, so she had to
go to the bench, and that's when Wilson and Faulkner
came on. And perhaps maybe that could have happened a
little bit earlier because she just looked like she wasn't
herself the whole game.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well, the good news for the Stars is, as you
will know, is that Kate Burley is coming back next week,
or says she is. And that was great hearing from
her directly. But you know, they had that shocking start
to the season and then they you know, they came
back and they got that win and then you thought,
all right, they're going to be all right. But now,
you know, I'm just not quite so sure. I mean,
(27:58):
Kate Burley is only one player. She's a very strong player.
But let's hope she can bring that defensive end into
some kind of uniformity.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
And it will be interesting do they keep Kayla Johnson?
You know, when you've got Kate coming back, will they
keep her there? Because you know, when it comes down
to it, that costs by bringing in another player and
keeping that other player. It's money. As we know, there's
not a whole lot of money going around right at
this moment, so do you keep her? You know, we've
just talked about keeping experienced players within the Macks. Well,
(28:28):
Burley and Johnson on the on the line would be
pretty impressive, woun't it, Burley Goldie, Yeah, who is normally
goal keep remy, come remy. You can afford it, yes.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, buddy, Casey is getting oh good.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, I don't know those contracts. I wonder what you
just hope with Casey that and I know she won't,
but you just don't want that legacy of hers to
be compromised by going back and playing right. She's had
such a stellar Career's allegied one hundred and twelve Test caps,
she's a centurion, and you just hope that legacy is
(29:06):
not compromised by going back. I don't think it will.
Because people think it's compromising, then they don't understanding. So
that I always going to know when your time's up
as well, you know, like Jiva Mentors just just retired
after how many years? Yeah, but I love that like
for me, as we heard her say, she's doing it
for all the right reasons. Who gives us stuff if
you have. Maybe she's not going to play like she
(29:28):
used to play. That is, she knows that, that's we
all know that. But she's picking up enough. But and
I just I love her reasoning for going back and
doing it. And it's not just what she's doing on court.
For me, it's everything around that court. Is the experience
she's bringing to that that wide a groupment. And perhaps
that's what Kayla's bringing as well to the stars, that
experience of what it feels like to be down, how
(29:50):
you pull yourself back up, how you have to just
lift up when you have been smoked a couple of
weeks in a row. And that's the experience piece. I
think that's one of the one of the biggest reasons
why Julie FitzGeralds brought her back is for that leadership.
You know, as she said, such a young squad. When
Jamie Lee left the court the other day, there was
that the oldest player was twenty three. So I reckon
(30:10):
she's been given some instructions to go in there and
help with the culture, help with the experience, and keep
people accountable. How good was it Helen Howsboro, She hasn't
seen her for aging She's like, mate, why didn't you
shoot it like brilliant? Love it? No one else is going.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
To say hard I think Joe Harden, Sorry Joe Harder,
but I think too, what is the Jolie still going?
She younger than she must be late foes, no mint
to late Jeeva mentor Let's just talk about her quickly
because she has retired. She's going to ended the twenty
five season, one hundred and seventy five tests for England,
(30:44):
twenty four year career, fifteen seasons in Australia, six Commonwealth Games,
six World Cups.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I mean sex Adean, I remember, do you remember? And
I thought that was a lot. Does it say when
her debut was, because I don't know if this was
her debut was the first I'm playing in New Zealand,
I was still playing, yes, And I remember because she
was against Irene and I remember this young girls in
Palmerston North and she came on against Irene and I'll
(31:12):
be honest, she was terrible and I was thinking, this
is excellent. I could just throw this ball in, there's
no problem. Well, she certainly wasn't terrible. The next time
when we played England, she was outstanding and I think
she's gone on to have a phenomenal career and six
has anyone else played sex Gene, You're good at these
sorts of staffs. He's the midy from England.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, yes, Jade Clark.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Very long.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
But she has showed what's that word? She's been traveling
across three continents to play in this.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
She suld play in New Zealand? Did she didn't she
even know? Not for New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
She the Vixens.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I think Buxton's Magpies Lightning. I think she's around, but.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I mean she's I think she's living in France now,
living in her bloke and traveling so far just to
get to each game, and I mean extraordinary efforts.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, so maybe sure.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I think she get it deserved, deserzar rests.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And imagine how first ankles have been strapped for twenty
five years or so. I mean, those poor ankles, because
I've got calves that have got dents in them, permanent
dents from wearing ankle braces my whole life. I have
permanent deeps. She probably laser from, you know, halfway down
your calf because it's been stripped off by all that
take the whole time okay, Well, looking ahead to round five,
(32:34):
of course, that's the halfway mark, which means all the
teams are playing each other for the second time. And
we just talked about earlier Stars Magic they were last
round and they are backing it up again. You both
are doing that one at Paul mind arena. Who are
we picking for that one? Well, I mean, how can
you go past the Magic? Yeah, I'm just can't get past.
(32:55):
I'm mad Joe, And.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
If they keep playing like that, I think my prediction
will come true.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, I do hate that they only played last week
and they're playing yet. I know there'll be a reason
about venues, but it's still a little bit yick. But anyway,
I'm definitely Magic. Yeah, I'm magic too. I reckon they're
getting their mojo back and they're going to kick on
Pulse mistakes.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
The last time these two teams meet, remember the Pulse
were sort of all out of sorts and the Mystics
won that. But I think with obviously no Wallom, there's
that real injury cloud around that rest of hers, which
I hope it's not significant, because if they lose her
for the rest of the year, that's going to be
quite a biggie, I'm going pulse for that one.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, me too, And I think again it's got You know,
it looks a bit similar to the Wiki thing last
year when she was out for a few weeks and
they just I don't think they're won without her.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It looked like though, when she did go down, it
looked like they'd strapped it up and she was about
to come down on the phi. Do you know what
adrenaline's like though, When you first do an and jury,
you go oh, and then you're like no, no, I'm good,
and then you cool down and you're like, oh, maybe
not so Apparently she's broken that risk before, and if
it is right near that skaphoid bone, apparently that can
be quite harmful because it's gone hasn't got much good
(34:06):
blood supply. So let's hope that she's okay. Who are
you going? And Dan pulse on the stacks, Pulse, pulse absolutely.
And then the Battle of the South Steel versus Tactics.
That was the first round, wasn't it when the Tactics
beat the Steel in christ Church? This one's an in Vicago. Well,
I'm going to Tactics for that one.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, look, I'm me too. I mean, how could you
go against the Tactics at the moment.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, it's it's a little bit scary. I'm almost scared
that this is going to be another blowout round. To
be honest, I'm hoping it's not. I hope we see
some of those two pointers. They keep it close. But Tactics, Tactics,
Pulse Magic, they're all playing well. They're all heading their
straps as they hit that halfway mark, and I think
they're all going to take take the win. And we've
picked our top seven from the round and a lot
(34:48):
of those players that we've picked have come from those
teams that performed very well. So you can watch watch
out for those on our social media b social media,
you'll see our starting seven. Well that's it from us.
We look forward to having your company once again next week.
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