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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Locking inside, therefore getting you closer to the game you love.
With Nadeen Wilson, Anna Stanley and Jenny Woods sow it
By News Talks, a'd.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Be gutta and welcome to Inside Nipple, our full crew
on board today to review round one, preview Round two,
and chat with Stars coach Timmy Patter Bailey Jin.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
You had the weekend of resting your new eyes.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
My new eyes, I can see everything.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, what did you see from the couch? What was
your key observation from round one?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I think my key observation was fitness. All the players
except sadly for the Stars three were fit and the
one that exemplified it Karen Berger in the warm up
going backwards and fords but and not breaking a She
was doing the interview with Leslie Murdoch not even hesitating.
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I thought that was super impressive.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And you were back on the mic covering the my
six Stars game, not the start new coach Timmy Putter,
baby was after decimated with injuries, three going down in
the match. Yeah, that was just heart renting to watch.
So disappointed for Bubby. But I think if any player,
former player that is now a coach can can rally
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this side together.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
It's here and Leana.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
She knows what injuries can do and how it can
really garner a team together. So let's hope the injuries
aren't so bad. We're going to check to her later on.
But also for the Mystics, I was very impressed with
Danelle Wallam.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
You know, she's replaced Grace and Wiki.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I think she will be doing a fair job at
the back there with Toyava. So it was a great
start for the Mystics. Yeah, disappointed with the Stars, but
let's hope they can pull together for a round two. Yeah,
tough start for the new coaching duror of Leanna and
Timmy Putter. Yet, despite the busy week ahead, Bubby has
kindly agreed to speak with us and talk us through
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the coaching trials and tribulations.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
The Inside Netball Podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Welcome Bubby. So great that you could join us. Not
the easiest of starts, though. It must have put it
on the heart string seeing three of your players go
down with injury.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
If I knew that was going to happen, maybe I
wouldn't have taken the wrong Yeah, it was really disheartening actually,
Like first, obviously Grea and then Katie and then Charlie
at the end, so very disheartening, but as always the
girls kind of just soldiered on and did the best
that they could where her players pay out of position
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and looked down the bench one part and there was
only Leana and Mitchell how and the coaches. So yeah, no,
it was definitely an introduction to head coaching.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
In the Yangs and I guess people will will be
wanting to know Bobby what the injury update or status
is of those players and perhaps replacement player moving forward
to round two.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Yeah, so Katie has got a little tear in her
planter Fasha, so she's probably well, I'm not sure when
terms to the front time frame, but not that long
because it heals itself. Apparently we're just waiting for confirmation
around Grea, hoping it's positive. But as we saw when
she foul, it didn't look that good. And you got
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Annie Uspisher, you you'll know that kind of stuff. I
don't want to say it just in case it thinks
if it's not, and then we're lucky with Charlie so
she'll be all good for the weekend. She rolled her
ankle and rolling her ankle I think her calf cramped from.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
The role and try to save it.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Apparently that's what the physio said, so she she'll be
good to go on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So just wanting for Grea and then in the meantime,
we're Ma's Kayla Cullen to join us.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yes, she's stolen her from my Swish team. I would
have we would have.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Won last night with her. So you're in my bad books, Bobby.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Well, if and when and hoping we'll win on Sunday, Danny,
would that be enough?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Did only if you lead her come back for Tuesday
normal fitness on Tuesday nights please.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Bobby? Sometimes?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh sorry, you continue. Sometimes adversity, you know, can bring
a team closer together. How have the players got together
and sorted it out?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Oh? Yeah, really good.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I don't I watched the game back and I saw
just you know, off play there they were just like
grabbing each other's hands and squeezing them and it definitely
does bring them a lot tighter, and you're coming in
and like getting them to My was really good at
leading that space.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
In terms of you know, we've just got one thing
to concentrate when we're on there.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
We're playing for our players off the court. Obviously once
a game had finished, there are a lot of tears.
I think a lot of emotion going around.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
And then it's the ability to.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Deal with it and move on because we've got a
season to go, and yeah, we use that as probably fire.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
And you know, enticement to do better again for them,
for our.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Players aside from those injuries, which has been a really
tough start for you. How have you enjoyed we've been
back home and having this new head coach role.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
I think initially Diana, I was like, what am I
doing when you're getting off the plane? It was raining
coming from the Gold Post and obviously not having contact
with our players.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Until one of the new year. But now it's yeah,
it's awesome.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Love being in amongst the team environment, as you guys know,
love that team environment, but also having family. All the
grand kids are here and spending time with them all together,
and obviously Dina as well because and Aaron's back at
the same time, so having that family kind of connection
there as well as been.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Some Oh yes, we've been watching Aaron. He's doing very
well with the Warriors. You spent a few years with
the Gold Coast Titans, Bubby. When you look back, how
much influences that had now on your coaching here in
New Zealand would have been your biggest takeaways with your
time in Australia.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Yeah, I think probably that was the best decision for
me to move over there.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I think I kind of went over there at the
time before I left, Sorry, when I was here. I
finally I think it was just going through the motion,
so you know, I was Keay coach for the comments,
and then doing some assistant stuff with the Stars and
then just really really starting that high performance coaching space.
Going over to Gold Coast. There was you know, there's
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no expectation. I think I was allowed to just do
what I do and create a pathway in the Gold
Coast for girls and boys going through it, but also.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Get the opportunity to coach. And I think having that
wide variety of opportunity and creating an environment from scratch
was an awesome experience.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Obviously learned a lot. I think the biggest takeouts from there.
It's definitely made me understand that I can coach and
I am Timmy Para.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Because people used to me as Timmy Park who coached.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
And was a former former athlete, tim myfi the former
athlete who coached, And now I can whole hardly say
that I am Tim Emperor, the coach who was a
former athlete.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
So it's giving me as the confidence and belief that
you know, I'm.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Not the same as other coaches, but I do believe
in what I do. And making sure you're having the
right people is a massive thing that I've learned.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
How far do your aspirations go? I mean, are we
going to see you Timmy para silver Firm coach one day? Well?
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Gun, you know, as a player, you always want to
be a Silver Pard and I think and it probably
past two or three years, you kind of think of
what's next, and you're obviously A and Z or you know,
in the top level head coaching, you've got to do
your time.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
It's like when we used to say as a player,
you got to do your time.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
On the bench to actually appreciate the time in the game.
So I that's what I'm doing. You know, obviously, if
an opportunity comes up, I'll put my hand up, and
I think that's an experience you've got to go through
as well in terms of that. And if it's no
at the other end. Then you just keep going. You know,
you're very fortunate to be in a position to create
an environment for girls to you're not only be the
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best on court, but also off the court. So I'm
really enjoying it. I'm really enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What about the new rules, how are you enjoying those?
And tactically what's the best way to use those timeouts?
When should you be taking those two point shots? You know,
what's your take on the on the tactics of these
new rules?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Yeah, the timeouts.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Timeouts are interesting because they're really good to have, and
we played those last year in the Gold Coast Queens
and competition, and they're really good if you're you kind
of have had a run on you for five or
you know, you just need a timeout to get everyone
to settle and then to regroup and go out.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
I haven't actually now those.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
You're trying all different scenarios for this grip, but I
don't think i've now them. I think we used the
two time mounts in the last game because we needed
to emotionally reset and come together as a group because
of what was happening. The two point shot I just depends,
like I think, for our shooters. We just say to like,
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we do have a structure in terms of when you're
going to go and when you're going to actually take
the one point shot, but other than that, it's just
about feel and if they're feeling like they're hot, then
you go for it.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
And I think you saw in the last five minutes of.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
The last quarter we were just like, just have a
go because we were down by about fifteen by that stage,
and we probably wouldn't do that if we were a
lot closer, we would you know, aim for the ones
and try and get the ball back and go again.
So yeah, so probably different circumstances, schools for different strategies.
Just as long as we've got those strategies.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, you were hot in the first quarter. I don't
think that was missing.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
It's like, yeah, let's yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Anyway, you didn't use the coaches box though, did you.
I didn't see out there strutting your stuff.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I did, actually, but it was that it must have
been when it was down the other court because the
defenders needed some instructions about driving the ball down.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
I was going to get up there and go, okay,
come here.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You talk about now you feel like you've got that
confidence to be timmy part of the coach. What do
you think your strengths are, because I guess moving forward
the adversity that you've started with with all these injuries,
how much of a strength do you think it is
the fact that you know you've been a former player,
Leanne has been a former player to actually get these
players through this difficult time.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, I think that's it.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Any I think being a former playing and being an
environment where you're.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Just with the players.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
You know, when you're a player, you have all these
conversations and you kind of understand where they're coming from
and the behaviors that they're showing coming out of an
experience like that. I think that's the big thing. And
I think too, I like to be someone that has
an open door policy and that they can come to
me and just start turn away and listen, listen to
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what they're actually talking about and understand them. Yeah, and
I'd like to have a bit of fun as well,
you know, when they're.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I must have met though, and all the time outs.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I thought what you were saying to your girls was
very clear, very concise. You had great clarity. I thought
you were awesome Bubby to listen to.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It, Sandy, Yeah, you're doing.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
A great Oh, thank you, I think, And that's I
think that's the joy of having some amazing coaches and
not so amazing coaches. I think both both of them,
like they're amazing and not so Amini has actually offered
me something in my coaching space.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
And I know, as a player, when you kind of
get waffle or keep going, it doesn't really mean much.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Who who was one of the better coaches that you've had.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Yeah, I've had a couple, I think, and just in
terms of where I was in my career or my
pathway as a player, I think initially before twenty ones
of Jen London and then Avon and then obviously going
into Debt Buller, who's just thinks outside this.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
We're sometimes out the gate, which is worsome.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
And then obviously in the Boon space I had the
opportunity with obviously Ruth White.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
And also Lynn Gunsoon. She was like that was at
the end of my career.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
But just little things like the release point of the ball,
kind of going over the Jamaicans, you.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Know, and stuff that.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Well, when you're I don't know how it was, but
towards the end you think you thought you kind.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Of knew everything, but you died and then she brings
that parlor. So yeah, so I was very lucky, very lucky.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
We won't hold you up too long. We'll get to
our fast five in a second. But one last question.
We had our predictions last week about who were the
teens we thought perhaps would make the top three at
the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Who's you know?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yea, so glad to hear you listen though, well done you.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
But if you were going to choose a team, who's
looking most dangerous after watching that first round, just we
won't make your name all three, But which team and
why scares you the most?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:05):
I think after watching the teams in the round, I
think pols are like standouts.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
I think with the amount of changing that they had
to have had all players out preseason, they kind of
look like it's like just ran smoothly right throughout. And
the connections they have on defense and the belief they
have in each other, I think they're probably a stand
up for me.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, I think we will want to redo our picks now. Yes,
we both had pulses. We didn't you didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
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Speaker 3 (13:45):
Five kick things off.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And if you could compete in any other sport, and
this can be back in the day or now, what
would it be and why?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:57):
I think I would have loved to rug the semonsd
just that the creativity I mean, obviously I would have
liked fitness, like because you know what I don't like
fitness The creativity that they have in that game.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
And they also get to trouble to some really cool
places as well.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You would have been good on the tackle, tough on
the tackle too, Bubby, Who in your Stars team is
most likely to A get you into trouble and then
b get you out of trouble? So who would get
you into trouble? In the Stars side?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Who would get me into trouble? Probably?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You would get everyone in trouble. You can't forgive anyone
because it's you. And therefore, who would get you get
you out of trouble? Bubbs?
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Who would get me out of trouble? Oh gosh, who.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Would get Probably?
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Yes she would, though.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
She has a bit sneaky.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Okay, So who which three athletes would you invite to dinner?
Dead or alive? Any sport?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Watch three athletes. Oh, I think I remember what I
said in this.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
I would have loved to like sit down with Lisa
Carrington and have a conversation with her.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Who else would that be? Tiny Jemison?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Actually, I would have loved to have a conversation with her,
just with regards to.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
What was and how it will happen. Obviously there's been
meta about what it was.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Like, but really like understanding like her trips over where
if she went and stuff, so Tiny Jemison. And then
a coach I'd love to have a conversation with is
Wayne Bennett. You know, he's been around for so long
and just have done some amazing things. But the way
he gets boys up to.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
The game is just amazing.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
And even the troublesome ones he probably would have been
the good for me, aren't they?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
What would be?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
What would be your last supper meal?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And please no disrespect to Patina Simon, please don't let
it be Taco Bell again, Each to their own bad
there was one last meal you're having on earth?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
What would it be? What's he go to?
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah? I would I would have my mum's snitchell yum
yum yum.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And last one best piece of advice anyone has given you.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, I think the best piece of advice was Sandra
Edge was my kind of idol coming through and I
got the opportunity to play with her at club and
I said to Jen London, who was my coach, I said,
oh my god, I just want to be with her,
be like her.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Sorry, I'll be with you.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Like her.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
That's not a new phase of my life.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Yeah, I just want to be like her. And she goes,
she set me down, and she goes, why don't you
be like someone who wants to be like you? So
why don't you be the person someone else wants to be?
And I got, yeah, that makes sense. I'll just steal
all loose trade and try to do them myself, and
then we'll have other people being a role model for
other people. So I think that's probably the biggest advice
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I've got. And I was pretty young and you gave
that to me as well.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You're getting deep in your old age.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Very wide.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
The girls welcomed us and when we first came and
we had the coaches, they.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Sung a song. I was crying.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Said, oh yeah, no, crying's good because when we cried
with the silver ferns we want.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Love it, love it and love it that you've made
the time to join us and chat on Inside Netball.
All the best for Sunday's match against the Technics. Thank
you very much.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Thanks so.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
It's a pleasure to seeing your guys and spending time
with you guys.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah awesome, See you later. Bye.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
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Speaker 2 (17:44):
How mature as Timmy Putter Bailey, Oh man, she has
come back.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I don't know what they did to her over there,
but a different person and I mean my little heart
was singing when she was implying that she'd put a
hand up for the silver Fern's job.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I just love the fact that she's at a stage
of her life now where she says that she is
Timmy Parter Bailey the coach, not the player and pressed.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Evolving and you know, good on here.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, it was awesome, awesome to hear. Look, before we
get into round two and the match that the Stars
are going to be playing against the Tactics, let's cast
our minds back over the weekend and have a look
at those results. The first game, it was the Pulse
versus the Magic on Saturday Parmestan North, the Pulse against
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all of our predictions, came away with the win fifty
seven forty four.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
But to be fair, jin we were led down the garden.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Path and we were under the impression that the Pulse
would not have their full strength squad.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Absolutely, But then I think, well, how much should we
read into it? But here's a thing. You can't put
out a usually stated May the first ahead of a
game on May the tenth and think that it would
bear any resemblance to what's going out. But the Pulse
were I can't think of an area where they were
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you know, no good.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, they were superb because they had Meddi, Gordon and
Whitney sooner is running that engine room in the middle
and where you had all predicted that they weren't going
to be playing. So yes, I think we all picked
the Magic to win that one.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Magic for me just a little disjointed.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I think if you look at the stats, the Magic
and the Steal Out of the two teams put up
the most two point shots, Magic had the one of
the lowest stats with the two point shots. So I
think strategy wise, round two for the Magic it will
be to get more one point shots in because I
think they got it in the goal circle, so I
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think they will get better.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Well, I think Savior too. He just got played out
of the game by Kelly Jackson. You know, she was
taken off and given a bit of a talking to
and then came back. So look, let's hope things improve
for the Magic.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Do you know what I really enjoyed was Ahmadrangi Mulliseller
coming on and she would play those last five.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Minutes in each game, and I love the hype that
she brought.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
You know, again, I keep comparing things Surpass well, normally
if you get a long shot, you know you kind
of signal I got a three. She was right in
there amongst it with her two, and I love I
love that character. It really added to the game for me.
And how fitting was it though that the first person
to shoot the super shot in this competition Emilia and
Econasio Jet.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yeah, bit of a nightmare in other ways, but oh,
I mean she's who was The commentator was just you know,
lauding all over her. But the style of the shot,
the height and the down and the it's beautiful. But
I just wonder what else The Magic would have been
working on this week, because I think they've got a
lot to work on.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, and she was the most accurate echinasio seventy one
point four percent. You look at a lot of those
two point shots. Most of them were missed. But that's
where the magic will keep getting better because they've got
Ecnasi on their team. Let's talk about the suspension you Annie,
how unlucky is this player being she must have the
most suspensions of any player in this league who's along
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with Alia Dunn's I thought were.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Actually quite ready rough. They were rough. G you screen
your face up. Tell me why?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Well you know, okay, y, I don't you know, couldn't
really tell. But the Done one, I replayed it and
replayed it and replayed it. There was light between Done
and the tactics defender. So you know, I just think
perhaps the umpires just have to pull back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I think so they have to confer as well, because
they talked about that, and I saw one of the
stories they did about actually speaking more to each other
and actually appealing to the other umpire. Should that almost
be compulsory on a suspension, that you have to appeal
to the other umpire and confer on a suspension? Was
the angle we got with was the televised angle right
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called it was the other side, and so it potentially
would have looked worse. So when you did replay it,
Berger got the intercept. She had two hands on the
ball and done looked like she kind of moved her
upper body to get away from from Burger, but she
didn't move her feet, and so that's where she would
have got pulled because you have to give the play
a landing room.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Right, a stretch, it's still a stretch.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Should not have been suspense, No, I mean talking to
Leslie Murdoch afterwards, she was mystified and there was a
lot of questions being going to be answered. I think,
and I think they should earn. If they're going to
ear they should earn on the on the side of caution,
not blow anything.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, let's jump ahead to that match. It was the
Tactics versus the Stair. It was on Sunday. It was
the last match of around fifty seven fifty to the Tactics.
It was the inaugural Hutton Family Trophy. I thought that
was awesome, a memory of the late Kelly Hutton who
passed away in twenty twenty three from ovarian cancer. So
that was exceptionally special. Kate Heaven and another one though
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she was ruled out injury late. And then we saw
the return of Leanda Liota and she got caught time gen.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yes, well I think of that.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I just I'm sorry, and I mean I love Leanna Liota,
but she's a coach now. And you know, it was
interesting just listening to what Timmy Potter was just saying,
you're a coach, You're not a player. You're playing. Days
are done. You can't tell me that they haven't got
players that they could have put on. You would have.
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I mean, they wouldn't necessarily have been as good, But
I just I don't particularly like this place where old
players come on. And I say, old ex players come on.
Forty yeah, forty playing wing attack five kids. She did
pretty good when she came on, but I think Kate
was a very late scratching. But still you could find
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a player as opposed to a coach. I was actually
quite impressed with the Steel. I did not think they
would get within seven of the tactics.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
There's only one going into the last quarter.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Oh yes, I was glued.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, so I think, yeah, with obviously POI and done
and they're both from the Tactics. They've had the relationship
from the Tactics last year. I think that was really
a good, good connection. And then of course I thought
Stife picked up some good ball down the defense end,
which I think could be a good could be a
good season for her, you know, just bring out some
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experience at the back and leadership for her. And Karis
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Speaker 3 (24:33):
Karis Stife was our goalkeep.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
There was no Stars in that team, unfortunately, but there
was players representing from all the other matches. Then if
we skip back again, Mystic Stars, Annie, you were on
this one. It was the Mystics that came away with
the win seventy one to fifty five, completely hampered by
those injuries. But Meila Rulu Buchanan, she was back. She
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was on manage minutes, but she was looking good.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I was getting a bit nervous when they did turn
to the bench when they had no one else because
she's on return to play protocols as well, but she'll
be a strength in that mid court. I was really
impressed with Charlie bow. She put up some good ball,
I think thirty nine from forty one or something. Her
steps were very good, big tall shooter at the back,
and I've never been a massive fan of Mya Wilson
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at goal attack, but you know what she actually did
all right, Maybe I'm like swinging to that she could
actually play there the odd time. I mean, she did
have some time on the bench to have a little
rest and then she came back on. I just think
perhaps defensively they still haven't quite nailed it. But obviously
with Kate going down and then Grea, that was just
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yeah's heart ranging.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
For heartbreaking here. I well, Adean and I went down
to that game, and yes we were fans in the crowd,
and when we arrived, we were a bit late and
the stars were up, you know, and I thought, oh no,
this is not what I expected. But sitting where I
was sitting at the end of the court, I was
able to the sheer magic of Petter Oh. I mean,
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because you're watching it as a commentator, but you're only
going where the camera's going you know, you're following, not
just going.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
All off the ball stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Oh my goodness me and she is a magician, and
I just thought, wow, wow.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And it was a bit squeaky today if you leave
the jacket. Last week it was doors and the toilet.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
This week, I'll take it off.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
The big test for the mystics was going to be,
you know, that whole connection with Wallom and toy Ava,
and it was very seamless. It looked like they've been
playing together for a long time. I mean, at one time,
I think the comment the cameras were on Peter and
Tea was saying something and it was just like Peter
looked pretty grumpy, and it was just like, oh, you
would not want to get on the wrong side of
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Peter Toyava. She shot fifty two from fifty seven, the
prolific shooter in that round. We also saw a whole
lot of two point shots, but only in the first
quarter and then it went quiet.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
So you know, we actually we actually had a caller
or a listener, not a caller. That would be good
if we could take a life all a bit of
a talk back, but we had a listener. Katiev, thank you.
Very much.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
She actually brought a conungrum to our attention. In the
English Super League, there was a controversy around the two
point shot. It was the Leads Rhinos versus the Panthers.
The Rhinos super shot should have been two points. It
was only counted as one and this is what we
may see in our competition at some point and meant
they went into extra time and ended up losing in
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extra time. Rhinos are now calling for a VAR system,
So a replay system, Jen, what do you think of that.
I know we've had a lot of innovations already. It
could slow things down even further.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Exactly, and that's why that's the only reason I'm not
keen on this VAR. And in fact, the shooter was
Joyce and Vuller, who you know from Malawi, used to
be we had a season down here with the pulse.
I don't know about that, but honestly, and we've seen
a similar thing in Australia when something was miscounted. I
just think, you know, the scorers have got to be better.
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But it's all very well saying that we all make mistakes,
but I just I just don't think VAR will cut
the mustard here.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I'm all for it. I'm all for it.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
If it means the calls are going to be corrected
and are the right ones, why not you would just
simply go move to the bench, the bench, go No,
that was a two point, as long as it's quick,
as long as it's a quick position.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
But look what happens in basketball. You're stopping all the time,
and you're going across and the refs are chatting and
waiting for the footage to be you know, play this
is NBA.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, it to be that. It would have to be
a yeah with a name, a limit, there might be
only so many challenges. But I think I'm not even
sure for this example. If you need a v again,
you're using that basketball example, you know, as a manager
there and you take a running sheet of the score,
because in basketball, you're looking to see if it's been
signaled as a three or a two, and if there's
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a discrepancy, you have to either tell the coach straight
away who can approach the bench, or you have to
wait for a break and play. So maybe that's what
managers have to do now they have and some of them.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Already do good enough to do.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
But that's just part of your job right, and that's
pretty important, having the school right. So you need to
be watching if they've signaled too and if it isn't
match what you've got on your school sheet, what's on
the board, you need a challenge it and you need
to do it straight away.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And maybe that's when you call that technical timeout.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I'm not sure, but I think that's a way of
solving that without having to go to that bet.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
That's what happened in Australia, I think, and I think
it was the I can't remember which team it was,
but they were, you know, saying they didn't stop, and
they didn't stop.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
They've got to.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Correct it then in there. I think it's got to
be then and there if it goes too far. It's
the only other thing about the new rules, if we're
just sticking on those. We saw the technical timeouts. I
felt ninety seconds was too long. Lot of the players
seemed to be back in position after sixty, so, I mean,
no one knew until you try these things out that
My initial impression was perhaps sixty. I did like the
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fact that they could take the technical time out, so Annie, yeah, yeah,
And for some of them, the coaches actually weren't saying much.
It was just a time I think the tactics called
one and it was just half half of it. They
were just breathing and just actually having a moment just
to regroup. Other times we saw the coaches getting in there.
And actually, you know, when I took just chatting to
Bubby before, I was really impressed with a lot of
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the coaches.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
During those times out timeouts.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You know, Donner I thought, got in there and you know,
she gets her eyes going and she gets really fiery Donnor.
So she's going to be the fiery coach that's going
to you know, be great for TV. Bubby I thought
was very clear and concise and had that real clarity
with what.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
She was saying.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
And then yeah, Anna Andrews tasol a very good as well.
So I think the coaches used it well and it
didn't have to be all about them, you know, saying things.
It was giving the players a chance just to actually
breathe can get back out.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Do you have to use it?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Definitely not.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
All right, let's jump ahead. Now let's look at round
two matches. First up Saturday Myssedtics v.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Pulse. It's in Auckland. For me, it's a game of
the round.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
These two teams were both very successful in round one.
When you look at the stats, it's pretty even. They've
played a lot of matches and it's pretty even who's
had the win loss record. Jen, what do you reckon?
Who's your early pick for this one?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
And why I'm looking at the wrong round? Mystix Pulse?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeahs six Pulse.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Well, I I'm annoyed with the Pulse, but.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
We know that here we're thinking they've got a full
squad this week, quite right.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I think it'll be a great game. Actually, I mean
my mind just goes back to that final last year,
which I thought was just superb.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
One goal in it, one goal.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
So no, I'm going to stick with the Pulse there
at home. I think we know really what I think.
I think it'll just be It'll be a tremendous game.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I think it's the Mystics at home, isn't it? Trust
Mystics at home? Yeah, so you're going to go pulse Mystics.
Are you going to get mistics? Yes, Okay, I'm going
to go Pulse. I think they were just too sharp
throughout the court in their first round. I thought the
Mystics defensively, they could struggle a little bit against the
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pulse pulse attack and the mid court is just going
to be too strong in the pulse and pulse. They've
got Paris Mason. How good was she? She may also
be in our Pack of the Week Team of the
Weeks check it out. She will play on her fiftieth
A and Z Premiership match in round her she takes
a court against the Mystics, and don't forget we've also
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got Kelly Jackson lining up against Wollum, so you know
she is very good at that high bare or Jenny's.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Going, no, I agree with you, because we're.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Convincing you that maybe it's themestic.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
No, well, I just think the mixer, the mixing the
Mystics of a unit I think are a different kettle
of fish to the Magic. But you see, I'm contradicting
myself because it's okay, we're all over the place. But
I just I will be looking forward very much to
that Wallumn Jackson clash because I'm just trying to think
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of they know they haven't played against each other on
an international level, have they?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Maybe, well, she's actually only played sex test kits and
she while I'm for Australia so she hasn't played much
or to be one for Pulse your pulse mystics, what
are you?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I'm Pulse, I was.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I was advocating for the Pulses and I had to think, Okay,
we haven't had too many.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Brain fades this week. Actually, I've also got a little
shout out.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I've got to go to Alex b who kindly reminded
me when I was having my brains week it was
Australian Diamond Nat Evelyna.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I'm sorry, Mat, that's.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So obviously remember at the very Yes, it's good to
know people were listening. Okay, Stars tactics for me, Oh,
I'm again that face. I was thinking tactics. You know, Stars,
they're going to be without the potentially though we've just
heard going to have Kayla Cullen, which is brilliant, but
I think the Taxes will be too strong. Cut and
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Burger Jane Watson, they are a class act.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I think the Tactics will take this.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, so do I And I thought it was interesting
how in the final quarter of that match against the Steel,
Burger and Watson just came into their you know, they
really got their groove on also Miela Royally Buchanan's one
hundredth game for the Tactics, so there's a little bright
bright light.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah then, and even though these injuries might galvanize this
Stars side, I think it's just going to be probably
too tough for them. And yeah, Tactics too strong, So
I'm going to go Tactics as well. And the last
game to round out Round two, it's on a Monday night.
It's Magic and Steel, it's Hamilton, Annie, you're going to
be there.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Neither have had a win yet. Who's going to get
your first win?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
And I think I'm still going to go Magic for
this one because they're at home. Both of those sides
put up the most two point shots, so it could
be a two point fiester. I think it'll be a
good tussle in that goal circle with the echinaccio and
the height of steife. But I think, yeah, Magic will
be too strong.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yes, I pondered over this. I'll tell you what. One
Steel player that really impressed me was that Serena down
a Cummercummer, Yes, because we last I saw her. You know,
she was plucked from nowhere and got moved south and
all the rest of it, and she was handy. But
I thought she was really good the other day in
that match against.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
The tax Excer.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
So but having said that, I will still stay with
the Magic. I think I think they're too good. I
don't think Savior too We will have another game like that.
I just think when you look at I think, you know,
two points shot Echinasio has it, and you know that
will get them out of trouble all the teams.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I think after round one they've got to strategize more
with these two points shot. You know, they've got to
pick and choose when do they go for them when
they're ahead or when they're not.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Do you do you just secure it with that?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
When you're ahead of the game, do you just get
the ones in and maybe put the pressure on the
other team to miss the twos? Then you get the
rebounds and unless you're feeling it, like Barbi said, you know,
sometimes the shooters are feeling hot and then you want
them to go for it. But I agree to me
in that Magic game last round, when they were down
by lot, they keep going for one. You're like, you're
down by twelve, shoot the two because you've got nothing
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to lose. To catch up that many in the last quarter.
It's doable, but it's tough. But look, I think they're
going to be a brilliant round. I'm really looking forward
to that Mystic's Pulse match in particular. But that's about
all the time we've got today, Bubby. She keep wanting
to chat about ten minutes and we didn't want to
stop it. It was brilliant. But look, please make sure
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