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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hi and welcome to One with Megan Malvick here to help
you navigate the world of wine.
I'm Megan Christy, I'm a masterof wine, meg Brotman, and we're
doing something a littledifferent today.
We are we're going to do whatwe do.
What we do yeah, if you likelistening to us, here's what we
listen to, what we watch, whatwe do, what we do yeah, if you
like listening to us.
Here's what we listen to, whatwe watch, what we follow.
If you want to absorb yourselfin the world of wine, this is

(00:31):
just all our recommendations wecan give, basically.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, and I mean, if you're working in wine, what
sort of trade media we read?
Yeah, where we get our news,where some of the fun facts come
from?
Yeah, exactly how we keepourselves informed, and I spend
a lot of time, like everymorning.
That's the first thing I dowhen I get to work spend 15
minutes just catching up onwhat's happening in the world of
wine cool okay, but first megwhat you been drinking so I had.

(00:55):
I got it from nicks and um, wehad some friends over on cup day
so I had champagne to startwith, yeah, but I got out the
big boys.
I got it from Nex.
It was $130, so it's not cheap.
It's from Nahr in Germany, soit's a 2022.
Donhoff, niederhauser, hermannsHall Riesling Spätlese.

(01:16):
It was unbelievable,fortunately.
So it had just a touch of sugar, um, being sprat lazy, being
the second.
So you've got cabinet, which isthe lowest level of ripeness,
and you're spat lazy.
Then you're ouch lazy, yeah, um, it was just a german riesling.
We're gonna have to do anepisode on german.

(01:38):
It's not going to be cheap, butit is.
It's ethereal, oh look, youdon't have to but the people we
were drinking with weren'treally into wine so, yeah, that
was great because they drank, um, the sort of other wines Pete's
rosé, which is delicious, yeah,but Pete and I kind of got to

(02:00):
have the.
Are you watching that Jesusturns into one?
That is so funny that video.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
we yeah, we're going to go off track.
Go back to it.
I'll edit that.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
So it was, yeah, beautiful wine.
I know it's expensive, but it'sa kind of special treat to us
because we try not to drinkduring the week, yeah.
And also, you've got it in yourfridge, you've spent the money,
yeah, so it's kind of in thepast, so the price doesn't
really count.
No, I agree, and we're notgoing out for dinner.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
This is not a financial advice podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
No, but Pete did buy Wagyu steak, which was down from
$120 to $69 a kilo.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Oh my God that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
He bought two pieces, but there was five of us, yeah,
and we didn't finish it.
That's how rich.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So it's well worth buying just one piece.
It is very expensive and onlyeating it once a month Okay,
that's all you can afford.
I know we are in a bit oftightening times at the moment,
so that's what I've beendrinking.
It's absolutely delicious.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay, fun fact.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
The fun fact I was reading quite a while ago now,
but I was going through my funfacts cleaning them up, which I
failed to bring with me today,but thankfully I revised them
and I think it was in Spain thatpeople were renovating their
house and they found an urnwhich actually contains wine.
They think they've dated it toabout 4,000 years ago.
Yeah, and they've got.
It was still sort of thisrust-coloured liquid, but they

(03:22):
tested the liquid and itactually is from grapes and it
was, at some point, wine.
They didn't taste it becauseclearly it would have been
absolutely disgusting.
No, I so would have tasted it.
But what's so amazing is thesedudes could have just seen it
and kind of gone over the thing,but they actually rang
archaeologists at someuniversity who came out and, you

(03:44):
know, dug it out.
That would have held up alltheir renovations and stuff,
yeah.
So there are some really goodpeople out there that are
invested in the past, history ofyou, know their country and
what's happened in the past.
So just a little proud momentfor people who are doing it well
for history and their knowledge.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh, we like that.
Okay, so we're just going to gothrough everything, like
everything we can think of allour.
Some of them will berecommendations, some of them
might just be.
Look, this is a thing.
Where do we start?
Do we start?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
serious, don't start with instagram, because I don't
really follow.
No, I was going to finish oninstagram.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
It'll be a fun recommendation that's why I
thought we'll start serious.
Meg, where do you get yourserious wine updates?
Okay so.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I subscribe to the Daily News, which is an
Australian, so they have twosections.
They give you the Daily News.
It publishes wine titles,publish Australian grape and
wine, Yep.
But they also scout around theworld, so there's always some
global news underneath that.
So I mainly read that forAustralian news, yep.

(04:50):
Then I subscribe toWineBusinesscom, which is out of
America, and they again send adaily update.
And so it's more the finances.
This winery is doing it tough.
Great prices have dropped thisyear in California.
There's this much bulk wine.
But it's just to get a feel forwhat's happening in the
industry from the ground level.

(05:12):
One thing that if you're reallyinto the wine industry and you
are in a winery and you can goand it used to be the Silicon
Valley Bank and it went brokebut it's been bought out but the
SVB, silicon Valley Bank, do awine survey every year and then
they give you a feel.

(05:32):
Well, they give you all thisdata about what's happening in
the US how much sales arethrough D2C, how much is out of
cellar doors.
Really, you can put your datain from Australia, they don't
care, they just put it in theother bucket.
Okay, but that gives you accessto what they're doing and it is
the biggest read on what ishappening, what has happened and
what will happen with theindustry.

(05:54):
It is Rob Miller who does it isphenomenal.
He's it's from a bankingbackground, so it's all about
the finance and it just gives a.
It's the pulse of the industryin the US.
So the Silicon Valley bankreport it's not about the
finance and it just gives a.
It's the pulse of the industryin the US.
So the Silicon Valley BankReport it's not called that
anymore, but if you look at SVByou'll be able to find it.
I subscribe to harperscouk,which is a UK wine mag and

(06:17):
drinks business which isUK-based.
Yeah, I'm finding, though nowthey're less.
I just think maybe the UK tradeis a little bit stagnant at the
moment, so I'm not getting asmuch kind of news out of them.
I very rarely subscribe.
I do subscribe too, but I veryrarely read in details

(06:37):
decantercom or Wine Spectator orwhatever.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, I get a lot of decanter and stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
I get it all, but I don't really read it.
I know Mel subscribes to JancisRobinson's newsletter because I
somehow get it still at yourold work address.
So I've got mine, so I get twonews things.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
What about IWSR?
Do you look at that?
Yes, I get that once a week.
They have some really goodstats, euromonitor.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
So Euromonitor does some, some wine stuff, but they
also give you I just got globalglobal trends.
So what's happening in retailglobally?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
okay, so we're just naming heaps here of all this.
What is actually worthfollowing?
Let's say top ones.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
IWSR yep um Wine business for me winebusinesscom,
yeah, and probably drinksbusiness if you want to cover
off UK US.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Okay.
So then what about more likelifestyle, trying new wines and
stuff?
Do you follow Halliday andwhat's Hewan's?
One again, wine review yes.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, for work.
Yeah, the real review.
I see Wine of the Week and youknow they cover Australia and
New Zealand so I tend to have alook at what's going on in New
Zealand.
So Stephen Wong, who's an MW,writes for them, so I have a
look, but I'm not thatinterested in what people.

(08:04):
Wine Spectator do some verygood in-depth articles.
They've just covered one off onthe Southern Rhone and there's
been a few updates in theSouthern Rhone so I thought that
was quite interesting Foreducation purposes, because I
will be teaching.
I do keep up to date with youknow what's happening in DOCGs
in Italy, but for my ownpersonal use I don't tend to

(08:29):
read them.
I don't need a winerecommendation from James
Halliday.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
No, well, I mean, I guess it's not aimed at someone
like you.
It's aimed at more wineenthusiasts than industry people
who already kind of know theirstuff.
Okay, what else Podcasts?
Wine Blast.
Yeah, you love Wine Blast.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Susan and Peter Barry , husband and wife, mw team.
They don't put them out withall that with sort of the same
frequency.
They sort of seem to go a runof weeks with nothing and then
there's a couple.
But they do some really, reallyinteresting stuff.
They've got access, obviously,to interesting people interviews

(09:12):
.
It's very interview-based, alittle bit science-y sometimes.
So people might remember we didthat Like Strike episode and
that came about from listeningto them.
I subscribe to a thing calledFood Matters, so it's not just,
it's's really, it's more fromthe health perspective.
Um, oh, fun fact, uh, thatmedical study that you can't

(09:38):
drink any no wine is good foryou.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, someone's I think jamie good dug into the
science of it yeah no, I justdon't believe any of these
things, honestly.
Like there's every day andeither an article comes out
saying wine is good for you orone is bad for you.
Like there is just so much crapout there from both sides, but
the baseline is just when they,when you look at just drinking

(10:01):
moderation, hey, that's fine, umso what was I talking about?

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Food matters.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Food matters.
What about Gottham Once again?
Look, it's not aimed at us, Ido subscribe to it, but I don't
often.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I will dip in and out .

Speaker 1 (10:24):
I don't tend to listen to whole episodes, so
Gottham is probably, if you'remore of a beginner, it might be
interesting.
So, especially right at thestart, what they did was they
got a wine and they'd tell youwhich wine to go out to buy and
then they kind of taste it witha master some who says you know,
it tastes like apples or it'smedium plus acidity, or so it's
kind of good practice.

(10:44):
I guess, if you were into likejust getting into wine, yeah now
.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
But now it's, more interviews.
They tend to do interviews withwinery people and I just find
their Instagram.
What does the Master Sommeprefer?
Krug or, you know, moet andChandon.
It's just wines outside ournormal league.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I see what you're saying, so I just find that it
kind of is the antithesis of howthey started.
Yeah, that's so true, butthat's only on Instagram.
They don't tend to do that, youknow.
Taste them on there.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
When you take snips for Instagram, you kind of need
to take something that's reallycooking, but I know what you're
saying, so I've got one forpodcasts as well 50-30.
Oh, look, it'll be in the shownotes.
I think it's called 50-30.
It's the guy who teaches Wes atlevel three and he basically
goes through like chapter bychapter and teaches the lesson.

(11:46):
Have you listened to it?
No, oh, my God, he is fantastic.
If you are studying Level 3Wesset, you go to Chardonnay and
he will basically just teachyou a lesson of Wesset 3 in your
ears and it's really, reallygood.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
But haven't you finished it?
Because once the book's done,does he?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
like no, it's good for if you're studying.
Okay, Say for me if I'm goingin to teach a like a level two.
I just like putting him in myears and listening, because he
doesn't just give the facts, hetells stories.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
A teaching style yeah .

Speaker 1 (12:22):
The teaching style is really good.
He doesn't just say, oh,Chardonnay is maybe acidity or
whatever he's like, here's whatthe hills are like and here's
what the people are like.
Oh, nice you know he gives alot of really good information.
Yeah, he does, he's great.
So if you're starting levelthree or even if you just want,
like, some extra, it's notcrappy to listen to.
It's really good to listen to.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
So it's 30 50s level three wine podcast.
I really recommend that one.
Um, what else to listen topodcast interpreting wine, which
is, oh, what's his name?
But again, I've sort of stoppedlistening to it, um, because
he's gone.
He's now doing lots of georgianand things and I just find it a
little bit boring.
I've got to be honest.
My podcast is if you're justscrolling through, is All

(13:14):
American Politics Australian.
Grape and.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Wine.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
And Wine Victoria started doing one, and they
interviewed Andrew Shedden theother day, which I haven't
listened to, but it sounds likea really interesting episode.
Okay, so Wine Victoria podcastyeah, well, here's always good
to listen to Australian Grapeand Wine.
They haven't updated this foryears.
The Australian Wine ResearchInstitute they have podcasts and
YouTube channel that I dip inand out of depending on the
topic.
I don't subscribe to it, yeah,but mine's mainly Wine with Meg

(13:47):
and Mel, of course.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh my God, of course course.
Do you actually listen to us?
I don't listen to it thismorning driving back from prison
.
I don't normally listen to us,but someone messaged this
morning saying that, um, theywould like all their celebrity
news delivered by us becausethey listened to the wine
celebrity one episode.
And then I had to go back andbe like what did we say again
and I listened back and now I'mjust waiting for Brad Pitt's

(14:09):
people to get in touch to sue us.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
So you, I didn't know any of the information, so I'm
completely clean, true, yeah,well.
And Dolly to pay us to endorseher.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
No, Dolly, get in touch, Dolly.
Meg would appreciate that.
Oh, and.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Kylie's people will sue us as well, because we
dissed the fact that herProsecco was made in Italy and
not in Australia.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
We just dissed it, though we didn't say any
potentially defamatory remarksAnyway.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, I think it's something that you've said that
you haven't read, so it ishearsay.
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Allegedly Love that Allegedly.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Can I allegedly in hindsight, yeah, you can go back
and edit that.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Okay, so for fun, let's go into Instagram.
Do let's go into Instagram?
Do you follow anything onInstagram?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
A lot of people that I know.
So one of my favourites isHuntress Wine or Wine Yarra
Valley.
Huntress Wine, huntress Wine.
She's out of New Zealand.
She kills her own animals.
She's a winemaker.
She's the most amazing Maoriwoman Just Janine.

(15:10):
I judged with her a few yearsago.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
She's just fantastic and she just does some really
interesting stuff around nativefoods in New Zealand and her
wines and things.
I like Cara, cara Foodwine, ourfriend Cara from Herald Sun.
So she has a lot of winecontent.
But she also has a lot ofaspirational content because she
gets invited to all thepenfolds, like you know Mother
Cup and Australian Open andstuff.
She's a lovely person.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I'm just going to be jealous.
I look at her life.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
And also I think she must be exhausted.
She's pregnant now and she isstill attending all this stuff.
I messaged her the other dayand I was like how are you doing
this?
So she's clearly not sick likeyou were.
Yeah, no, she's having a muchnicer time.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
But even the little frock that she had on in the
birdcage.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I know she's gorgeous .
How dare she.
She looks fabulous as a tinylittle bump, I know Anyway shout
out to you.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
So yes, I subscribe to her and I love her stuff
because she does do a lot ofhigh-end restaurants and stuff.
You know destinations, but shedoes some basic stuff too.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
She's so approachable with her wine, she never goes
too crazy, so she's a goodfollow.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
So I follow World Loves Melbourne for places to
eat and drink, which is a guywhich I really like.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Okay, so I follow a lot of meme ones because I find
memes really funny.
So one of them is the angry somthe underscore angry,
underscore som, and it's justsome really funny stuff.
Pot of you.
You're asked for yourbutteriest chardonnay and it's
Donald Trump in a blonde wig.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Don't need to see that I'm feeling very, very sad
at the moment.
True.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, but there's some really really funny kind of
meme type stuff from him, andshitty wine memes are very good.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
What else do I?
Yeah, cara Food, cara Food'sfine, oh shit, just the best.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I know she put something up the other day that
was like Spanish wines orsomething.
I was like can you taste that?
And so the other thing as wellis that because she works for
the Herald Sun, every winery inthe freaking country is sending
her every single sample, so shetastes every wine ever like as
much as yeah, but she tastesthem in a much less wanky way
than like the holidays and stuffdo.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Oh yeah, no, she's about how you actually use the
product.
Yeah, you know she's not aboutshe doesn't use that sort of WCT
speak, or whatever.
And it's very much.
Oh, it'll be delicious withblah blah, blah, blah blah and
she's great.
Okay, movies so well, sideways,which you know everyone raves

(17:41):
about that film.
They are two of the nastiesthuman beings on the planet.
They go away for a weekendbecause the guy's getting
married, basically so he canhave an affair.
Yeah, that's the premise of thestory.
Yeah, it is.
And he's going with his mate,miles, who's played by Paul
Jimmy Allen.
He's a very good actor who ismiserable because his marriage

(18:03):
is broken down, remember, yeahyeah, the wife left him, I think
, but it is.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
It's just a couple of like iconic moments.
Like they're going wine tastingand so like the main guy's
really into wine and his mate'sjust there to basically have a
piss up and cheat on his wife,right, and so he's just going
along and so the first guy'slike describing the wine and
he's tasting all the aromas andthis and that, and he's so the
first guy's like describing thewine and he's tasting all the
aromas and this and that, andhe's trying to get his friend to

(18:30):
get into it.
And then he looks over and goesare you chewing gum?

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I haven't seen it for years.
We saw it in Chile.
It was called entrecopas, whichmeans between glasses.
Oh yeah, very weird.
Yeah, that is weird.
Why is it called Sideways?
Yeah, I can't remember, but theguy who wrote it is an absolute
oenophile.
Like he loves wine, loves it,and I think he now owns.

(18:57):
I listened to an interview withhim.
It was a really really goodinterview, yeah, and I think he
has a vineyard in SouthernCalifornia, somewhere like Santa
Barbara way, and he's justreally, yeah, geeky into his
wine and it's sort of his ode tothe love of wine.
That's nice, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Like it's going to.
Oh yeah, the other iconicscenes from that.
This is the movie where he'slike I'm not drinking any
fucking more.
If anyone orders, he goes, justbe Meg, she can't talk.
I know she's not going to copyyou once, You're okay, but no,
it's where he's like just bechill, right, we're going on a
date, Don't be all like you,Even if they order Merlot, just

(19:39):
be fine and drink it.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
And he goes.
No, If anyone orders Merlot,I'm leaving.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I'm not drinking any fucking.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Merlot and reportedly dropped.
Merlot sales around the world.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Okay, so that's sideways.
Som, do you watch that?
That is the show.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
I don't know where you can stream it now.
I watched the movie, the firstmovie.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, it's a movie, isn't it?
It's not.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I watched both of them Do you not love it, I loved
it.
They're such a bunch of wankers, I know.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
That's why I love it.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Like I feel like you, the arrogance of the men in
that, and the women are muchmore humble.
Isn't that what it's?

Speaker 1 (20:21):
like, though Isn't that what it's?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
like being a master of one.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Don't you experience that?
Not with my couple.
So do you think Soms are morewanky than W?
Yes, of Not with my kind ofwine.
So do you think Somme's aremore wanky than W?
Yes, of course they are.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
You're right, it's also American, true, different
breed, so maybe American Mastersof Wine, but mostly I mean
certainly when I did it they'remates of mine and I don't do
wankers, true.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
So if you haven't seen Somme, it follows what four
people who are trying to gettheir master sommelier and it
shows them like say they doservice challenges.
So they have to.
I will never forget they, um.
So one of the challenges islike he walks in and he's like
okay, I'm your server today andthey go.
Okay, we have a party of 14people and we'd all like to
share this one bottle of winebefore we move on to our normal

(21:08):
wines, and so he had to pourthis one bottle equally between
14 people, but you're notallowed to go back and top up
anyone.
So he had to do that perfectly.
So, like service challengeslike that were crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, the service is impressive, I've got to say.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
It is impressive and yeah, I'm sure they play up a
lot of things for TV, but I meanit's really impressive watching
what they do.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Of course they're wankers, but it was done by two
guys that I think they didn'tget it.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Oh, probably.
Whose pass rate is really?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
low.
Have you seen Blindside aboutthe first African?

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yes, I loved that.
Oh, my God, that was so good.
That's about the African.
Is that a true story?
Yes, oh, everyone go watch thatZimbabwe.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
So they put together a team of Zimbabwean sommeliers
and they picked the best peoplefor wine service out of Zimbabwe
.
These people don't have accessto a lot of great wines and they
trained them up.
It was like a competition totrain them up.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Oh my God, they're so cute and sweet.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
I'm not giving no spoiler alert, but they didn't
win as a country.
But it is the greatest story ofhope and joy.
When they go to some of theChateau in France, their faces
are just like like what are welooking at?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
It is just so filled with joy.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
It's know it is just so filled with joy.
It's gorgeous.
It's called Blindside.
I'm not sure what streamingservice it's on.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure either.
Drops of God.
Drops of God we absolutelyloved.
So Drops of God is on ApplePlus and that's the one about
the Japanese bloke it's based ona Japanese manga which is a
Japanese sort of cartoon.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sorry, children, I know you're going to tell me
it's not a cartoon, but anyway,it's a Japanese manga.
It's about a French man who hastwo children one with a
Japanese woman who lives inJapan and his daughter, who grew
up with him in France, and thefather is a complete dick.
Yes, arrogant, yeah.

(23:14):
Woman who lives in Japan andhis daughter, who grew up with
him in France, and the father isa complete dick.
Yes, arrogant, yeah, but hischildren have both inherited his
incredible palate and he dies,and they have to compete for his
inheritance.
It's so good, which isphenomenal amounts of wine and
an amazing apartment in Tokyo.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, Don't believe everything that they say about
wine it's a little bit romantic.
They take some liberties withactual wine technicality.
But it's so good, it's justsuch great watching.
It's a great story.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, it is really good.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I binged it Uncorked, did you see Uncorked?
Is he about the black dude?
He wants the black guy tryingto become master and his dad
tells him that he can't he's astupid industry.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yes, it's quite good.
It's quite good.
Yeah, red Obsession narrated byour very own Russell Crowe.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I haven't seen Red Obsession.
Is it good?
You obsession is a good?
You're kidding.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
No, it's about it's a lot about China, but the
obsession with high-end wines,the prices that people will pay,
the guy that bought ThomasJefferson's French cellar, which
turned out to be fake hedoesn't actually, he doesn't
reveal how much it cost him?

(24:28):
Yeah, but it's reportedly inthe millions.
Yeah.
The other one is it's what's itcalled?
Oh, sour Grapes, that's what itis.
Sour Grapes with Rudy Kernoghan.
He's out of jail, is he?
Yeah, he's gone back to was hefrom Malaysia.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay, so Sour Grapes is about the guy that
counterfeit.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
So he took all the bottles, he got himself into all
these sort of rich people andtasting groups and they'd have,
you know, romani Conti everynight and he would take the
bottles home and then refillthem, recork them yeah.
Oh, but he had an amazingpalate to be able to do it, yeah
, and put them on Wow, no, yeah,people will believe what's on

(25:10):
the label.
That's the thing, it just goesto show, and then he put them on
the auction circuit.
Yeah For a clipper Wines andthen he got called out because
he started actuallycounterfeiting labels and
there's a weird oh he made ayear that didn't exist.
From a Burgundian wine.
The producer goes.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I didn't make that year.
I didn't.
Yep exactly, and then he closed.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
But there's that woman they interview whose job
is wine fraud.
Like she looks at all thedifferent she's in the movie.
She looks at all the paper andthe type of stamp and the type
of ink that was used.
Very cool, what a job.
So that's actually really good.
What else?
There's some good movies.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
I think they're all the main ones I can think of.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
The worst one is that one with Keanu Reeves?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I don't know it.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Oh my God, I think it's from the 2000s or 1990s.
You know, they put the smudgepots out in the vineyard and
they saved the vintage.
It's all very romantic.
Which Drops of God is a littleromantic as well.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
It's a bit like that, but it was good, so we put up
with it.
Okay, I want to finish off onmy favourite skit, which I don't
know.
You might have all seen it ifyou're on Wine, TikTok or
whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
People send it to me all the time.
Me too, I've seen it.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
People, send it to me all the time Me too.
You were the first person thatever sent it to me.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I just love it, but I get it at least once a month.
Someone sends it to me and I gooh funny, even though I've seen
it a thousand times.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, one of my friends sent it to me again last
week, but I actually hadn'tseen it in a while, so it
cracked up.
It is funny, so we will leaveyou this.
You next week, until next time,enjoy a glass of wine drink.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
well and lo, I have turned water into wine.
What's wrong?
He's done merlot again.
What's wrong with merlot?
What's right with merlot?
Jesus, yeah, can you do mesomething else?
Like what?
Like a?
Like a Malbec or a Pinot Noiror something?

(27:10):
Yeah, no, I can't do those ones, I'm afraid.
What about like a Rioja?
Or oh, I'd have a Rioja.
No, I can't do Rioja.
I mean, I'd settle for, like aChateauneuf-du-Pape, just drink
it.
I could probably do a Shiraz,wow.