November 14, 2024 • 13 mins
Celebrate 30 seasons of Carolina Panthers football with Jim Szoke. Join him as he sits down with the key figures who shaped the past 29 seasons, reminiscing on the moments that made Panther's history. This week's guest is former Panthers broadcaster, Mick Mixon.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, This week we talk with the voice of
the Panthers, Mick Mixon for seventeen years. Of course prior
to that. With the tar Heels now enjoying retirement, we'll
catch up with what is Mick doing now as we
continue here on thirty Seasons of Panthers Football.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Thirty Seasons of Panther Football a celebration of the players, coaches,
and other key figures who've contributed to the organizational success.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Our old broadcast partner in Palell, Mick Mixon, joins us
from the estate up somewhere in the Burlington area, and
Mick is one of my heroes, not only in life
and career, but also in retirement. Because Mick, I've run
into this. I've said this to you before in other settings.
I've got other friends that are about our age, and
(00:49):
some are retired and some seem bored. They're doing other things,
or they're trying to stay out of their wives' ways,
or they're they're finding new work to do or going
back to their old jobs. You, my friend, are a
hero in retirement and that you are one of the
few people I know that is settled into I won't
say doing nothing, but doing nothing work related, you're doing
(01:09):
things you want to do. You're staying busy, of course,
but from what I hear, I mean there's nothing career
associated with what you're doing in your retirement. Congratulations be Zoke.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You can't see me, but I'm smiling so broadly right now,
just at the sound of your voice and all the memories.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Man, we had such a blast.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Do we not work together for man seventeen seasons? But
there are so I was just thinking about it as
you were talking. The two things in life that I
care the least about right now. One is how's my
ex wife doing? Numbers?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Number two it went sideways already.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Number two is does anybody need to hire a bald
headed ectomorphic a near sighted retire sports announcer. I just
adore being retire, and I don't export life philosophies.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I'm not on social media.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I don't urinate on every bush and try to mark
my territory tell people what they ought to be thinking
or doing. It's not my style, but I will say this,
you will now look back to Zoke when your time comes.
I mean, you're still in the You're still in the
sweet spot of your career, and I'm so proud of
your many successes. But when you decide to do it, man,
(02:25):
so long as you're doing it to get to something
and not to get away from something, you will flourish.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I love the way you talk. Now.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm mostly doing it because I still need the income.
Otherwise I would I would be where you are right now.
But I definitely am enjoying all that I am doing,
but also financially need to have saved better in my life,
also because of things like having an ex wife like you,
things like that that happened in the past.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, it doesn't take long when you're on a fixed income.
And I guess even when we were working, we were
on fixed incomes. But when you're on a fixed retirement income,
it does change the way you think. And I'm trying
not to become that curmudgeonally old man that at the
gas bump because it's two dollars an eighty dollars back
in byday we take twenty four cents a gallon. But
(03:10):
it does make you think about things. But enough about me,
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
No, this is about you.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
It's the whole point is these podcasts are to catch
up with people from from our past. But thank you
for asking. I'm doing fine and I appreciate you asking,
but we want to hear from you and catch up
with you, and I promise it'll be painless. This is
not one of those tell me about third down and
four against the Arizona Cardinals fifteen years ago, or keep
it simple for you? Is that jazz I hear in
the background?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
It is sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He's a little he's a little dieseled up and somebody
pulled in the driveway.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
It's kind of what well.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
This is the authenticity that I love about doing these podcasts.
Is we get real at home life with McK mixon
and for people to handle him with.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
My firm but general leaderships out.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
See, we're catching Micky's very busy. We're lucky he carved
out ten minutes to speak with us. He's got a
lot going on. We're we're lucky to have a few
minutes with him. Just tell folks, you know why Burlington
while you're there. Obviously you love Charlotte. You you know,
we're obviously with the Tar Hills Network for many years
up in the Chapel Hill area.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Why is it?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Why is for those who don't know, why is Burlington
home for you?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And Dawn and the family.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
One of the many things you and I have in
common is that we both took marital mulligan's and striped
it right down the middle on our second one. And
my shorty, my bride, my love, my lead singer, don
Elizabeth Thomas Mixon. She's from here, and generally the woman
wins the battle of with whose family do you spend
the holidays? Where do you live in retirement and all that,
(04:40):
So Zuke, I've got we got a house here in
Burlington behind us.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Down's son. She had one child, Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
He played football safety at Western High School here. Jonathan
and Natalie were high school sweethearts.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
They're married.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I got four grandkids, all boys, So the testosterone factor
around here is off the chain.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I mean, it is incredible.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So part of well, that's the answer to the question
is why Alamance County.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
But seeing these grandkids.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Grow up and and and watching them learn and do things,
that's that's kind of my super bowl at this this
stage of life.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I do want to ask you, because you do enjoy
retirement and family and all of that. I would think
there's sometimes though, where you said you're smiling and the
memories and so forth, What are some of the things,
it could be general or specific, that that you miss
about the days of when you did have to get
up and go to work on a you know, on
a Sunday or during the week, or whatever the case
may be. What when you look back, what are some
(05:42):
of your favorite thoughts as far as some of the
things you did that you wouldn't mind doing once or
twice here and there if it happened to pop up.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
One of my favorite things was training camp.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I loved going to Camp Wafford, living in the dorm
just I mean where else, but with what we've tried
to sort of do for a living, where else are
in what other world can a older man like me
or you live in a college dorm for three weeks
(06:16):
spend all day watching football practice, hanging around with players,
trying to.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Get to know their stories.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So every once in a while, when that distant drumbeat
of a coming panther season starts to get a little louder,
I think about Camp Wafford and all the fun there,
And then a lot of it is you hear former players.
They retire and they'll miss the game, of course, but
it's mainly the locker room it's the game of ben
ball that's snapping, the guy next to you with a
rat tail when he gets out of shower, the guy
(06:43):
that has the locker room next to you, all the
kind of horsing around and things, and so it's nothing
for me to be on the you know, on a
zero turn or just tinkering around here and just stop.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
For a moment and just laugh out loud at.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Some of the things that you that you said and
we wish you hadn't, or where I did and we
wish we hadn't, and just I don't know, just just
just kidding around with each other, and the personalities that
we work with in and out of the broadcast booth.
You could fill a medium sized book with without even trying.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
No, we said, we said enough dumb things through the
years that you shall have years of memories just from
all the dumb things I've said alone. So I appreciate
that they helped to fill your upty spaces while you
are out there.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Cutting the grass.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
People who know you know these things about you that
you are and have been a great musician and a
drummer and played in many bands through the years, and
that your knowledge of medicine was always I thought extraordinary,
especially being a sports broadcaster, that you had such a
deep interest in medicine and things like that. If not,
if you're going back to career day, if you went
(07:49):
back now, not that you wouldn't choose sports announcing again,
but what else might you have done if the path
had not led you into sports broadcasting?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Oh golly.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I was one of those lucky kids that always kind
of had a vision. Once I realized that I would
not be playing sports at a high level on account
of the amount.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Of cigarettes and whiskey consumed.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
By my mother during my gestation, I just wanted to
be wanted to just try to cover sports. But I've
always loved dermatology. I think skin is the largest, the
heaviest organ in the body, and one of the most interesting.
And so I'm sort of my successes are outnumbered by
(08:35):
my failures. But it's nothing for me to to burn
a Vruka plane terrace off with a soldering iron and
some vassolin.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
See.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Dermatology enables you to use many of the tools you
have her eyes and so that do it yourself for
gene kicks in. But I also love I just love
being outside. I love taking care of I love taking
care of property and so being I don't know, being
(09:05):
a golf court turf grass, being the golf court superintendent
or something like that, where you could I don't know,
be out kind of caddy shacking it around that Sometimes
I thought, if my twig has been in a different way,
I would have enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That I love, But I mean it's the most positive way.
How eclectic you are. I love that answer. And that's
kind of if I was like pulling, like what is
Mick in a nutshell? It's like how many different things
Mick could do? Because you're so adept at some of
our things. And we're not going to name a single
name here, but you and I would many times have
a broadcaster walk out of our booth if we're doing
a pregame interview or they stopped to visit before a
(09:39):
game would start her afterwards, and we would think or
say out loud because we say stupid things to each other,
is that all that guy is is like he is
just ten to five touchdown, Because you feel like they
go home and then they just go back and listen
to their broadcast and talk about the game that they
broadcast all week and what their winning percentage was, and
games called and things like that, because it feels like
(09:59):
that is their lives, is that they are Ron radio
and there there's nothing more to them than that.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You give me started. Man, you know all the buttons
to push. I'll deal with you. I will sternly upgrade
you later when the podcast is over.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But sometimes I feel as though I have.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I felt when you and I were working together, as
though and then the college ranks too, as though I
was surrounded by these cartoon characters sent over by Central Casting,
with the Ted Baxter kind of radio voice, and the
cologne and the expensive watch and and the website. And
(10:38):
when you and then when you email these some of
these people, you find that their email is play by
play Bob at gmail dot com. Oh really, was you know?
It was b Williamson at Was that not available? I mean,
what the doof is?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I knew I say I was giving you red meat
when I threw that out there into the tank. But
I had to make that comment to play off the
difference that because Mick is is cut from a more
human cloth, I would say than many other broadcast types
are one or two more Because this isn't a documentary
it's merely a slice of life of hanging out with
Mick mixing here for a little bit on this week's
podcast with you, when you do get a call from
(11:21):
somebody to do something like I called you, I want
to say about a year ago, and I said, I've
been offered this college teaching class. It's sports play by play.
It's just it's nothing more hearty than that. It's once
a week, it's like an hour and a half and
it's only for fifteen weeks. Would you like to do it?
And you roundly said no, And so you said, you said,
(11:41):
if I was doing it, need to have you filled
in one time you would do that. But you really
mean it when you say when you've disconnected like you have.
So my question out of all that is, do you
follow Panthers closely, NFL, the Tar Heels? Is there anything
in the sports world or are you just completely disconnected
and you just get little nuggets here and there. As
(12:03):
far as the previous life, you had.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Nuggets and that's it. I don't follow it like I
used to.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I couldn't tell you who I don't know. I don't
know for example, who the Panthers are playing this coming
weekend or whether it's an open date. I say would
be true with North Carolina, n CY State, ECU, Wake,
et cetera. But every once in a while something will
catch my interest a major Sunday Augusta, the Ryder Cup
(12:35):
every other year sometimes and sometimes uh at the end
of the pregame show. I like listening to you guys
in the pregame show. I'll tune in occasionally when I'm
riding up and down the road or just sort of
catch the last couple of seconds of a game. But
it's fascinating, zoke, and it's unbelievable to to be able
to just kind of be, I don't know, be a
(12:56):
fan again and just just decide what you want to
look at when you want to look at it. And
then also, the quality of my life is not affected
by what team wins or loses. And that's got a
lot to be said forward as well.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
All Right, we're going to leave it there in Burlington
with Mick, And it wasn't even my intention, but pretty
sure we didn't actually talk about sports for the entire time.
I enjoyed that aspect of it just as much as
just talking life itself with you.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Mick, always great to catch up with you. Oh Zo
man I, Cherish our friendship.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Give Sandra a big hug, and y'all come see me
and Dawny and me when you can't deal.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Thank you, Mick, Thanks pout.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Thirty seasons of Panther Football.
All right, This week we talk with the voice of
the Panthers, Mick Mixon for seventeen years. Of course prior
to that. With the tar Heels now enjoying retirement, we'll
catch up with what is Mick doing now as we
continue here on thirty Seasons of Panthers Football.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Thirty Seasons of Panther Football a celebration of the players, coaches,
and other key figures who've contributed to the organizational success.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Our old broadcast partner in Palell, Mick Mixon, joins us
from the estate up somewhere in the Burlington area, and
Mick is one of my heroes, not only in life
and career, but also in retirement. Because Mick, I've run
into this. I've said this to you before in other settings.
I've got other friends that are about our age, and
(00:49):
some are retired and some seem bored. They're doing other things,
or they're trying to stay out of their wives' ways,
or they're they're finding new work to do or going
back to their old jobs. You, my friend, are a
hero in retirement and that you are one of the
few people I know that is settled into I won't
say doing nothing, but doing nothing work related, you're doing
(01:09):
things you want to do. You're staying busy, of course,
but from what I hear, I mean there's nothing career
associated with what you're doing in your retirement. Congratulations be Zoke.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You can't see me, but I'm smiling so broadly right now,
just at the sound of your voice and all the memories.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Man, we had such a blast.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Do we not work together for man seventeen seasons? But
there are so I was just thinking about it as
you were talking. The two things in life that I
care the least about right now. One is how's my
ex wife doing? Numbers?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Number two it went sideways already.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Number two is does anybody need to hire a bald
headed ectomorphic a near sighted retire sports announcer. I just
adore being retire, and I don't export life philosophies.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I'm not on social media.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I don't urinate on every bush and try to mark
my territory tell people what they ought to be thinking
or doing. It's not my style, but I will say this,
you will now look back to Zoke when your time comes.
I mean, you're still in the You're still in the
sweet spot of your career, and I'm so proud of
your many successes. But when you decide to do it, man,
(02:25):
so long as you're doing it to get to something
and not to get away from something, you will flourish.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I love the way you talk. Now.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm mostly doing it because I still need the income.
Otherwise I would I would be where you are right now.
But I definitely am enjoying all that I am doing,
but also financially need to have saved better in my life,
also because of things like having an ex wife like you,
things like that that happened in the past.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, it doesn't take long when you're on a fixed income.
And I guess even when we were working, we were
on fixed incomes. But when you're on a fixed retirement income,
it does change the way you think. And I'm trying
not to become that curmudgeonally old man that at the
gas bump because it's two dollars an eighty dollars back
in byday we take twenty four cents a gallon. But
(03:10):
it does make you think about things. But enough about me,
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
No, this is about you.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
It's the whole point is these podcasts are to catch
up with people from from our past. But thank you
for asking. I'm doing fine and I appreciate you asking,
but we want to hear from you and catch up
with you, and I promise it'll be painless. This is
not one of those tell me about third down and
four against the Arizona Cardinals fifteen years ago, or keep
it simple for you? Is that jazz I hear in
the background?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
It is sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He's a little he's a little dieseled up and somebody
pulled in the driveway.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
It's kind of what well.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
This is the authenticity that I love about doing these podcasts.
Is we get real at home life with McK mixon
and for people to handle him with.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
My firm but general leaderships out.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
See, we're catching Micky's very busy. We're lucky he carved
out ten minutes to speak with us. He's got a
lot going on. We're we're lucky to have a few
minutes with him. Just tell folks, you know why Burlington
while you're there. Obviously you love Charlotte. You you know,
we're obviously with the Tar Hills Network for many years
up in the Chapel Hill area.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Why is it?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Why is for those who don't know, why is Burlington
home for you?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And Dawn and the family.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
One of the many things you and I have in
common is that we both took marital mulligan's and striped
it right down the middle on our second one. And
my shorty, my bride, my love, my lead singer, don
Elizabeth Thomas Mixon. She's from here, and generally the woman
wins the battle of with whose family do you spend
the holidays? Where do you live in retirement and all that,
(04:40):
So Zuke, I've got we got a house here in
Burlington behind us.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Down's son. She had one child, Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
He played football safety at Western High School here. Jonathan
and Natalie were high school sweethearts.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
They're married.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I got four grandkids, all boys, So the testosterone factor
around here is off the chain.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I mean, it is incredible.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So part of well, that's the answer to the question
is why Alamance County.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
But seeing these grandkids.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Grow up and and and watching them learn and do things,
that's that's kind of my super bowl at this this
stage of life.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I do want to ask you, because you do enjoy
retirement and family and all of that. I would think
there's sometimes though, where you said you're smiling and the
memories and so forth, What are some of the things,
it could be general or specific, that that you miss
about the days of when you did have to get
up and go to work on a you know, on
a Sunday or during the week, or whatever the case
may be. What when you look back, what are some
(05:42):
of your favorite thoughts as far as some of the
things you did that you wouldn't mind doing once or
twice here and there if it happened to pop up.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
One of my favorite things was training camp.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I loved going to Camp Wafford, living in the dorm
just I mean where else, but with what we've tried
to sort of do for a living, where else are
in what other world can a older man like me
or you live in a college dorm for three weeks
(06:16):
spend all day watching football practice, hanging around with players,
trying to.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Get to know their stories.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So every once in a while, when that distant drumbeat
of a coming panther season starts to get a little louder,
I think about Camp Wafford and all the fun there,
And then a lot of it is you hear former players.
They retire and they'll miss the game, of course, but
it's mainly the locker room it's the game of ben
ball that's snapping, the guy next to you with a
rat tail when he gets out of shower, the guy
(06:43):
that has the locker room next to you, all the
kind of horsing around and things, and so it's nothing
for me to be on the you know, on a
zero turn or just tinkering around here and just stop.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
For a moment and just laugh out loud at.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Some of the things that you that you said and
we wish you hadn't, or where I did and we
wish we hadn't, and just I don't know, just just
just kidding around with each other, and the personalities that
we work with in and out of the broadcast booth.
You could fill a medium sized book with without even trying.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
No, we said, we said enough dumb things through the
years that you shall have years of memories just from
all the dumb things I've said alone. So I appreciate
that they helped to fill your upty spaces while you
are out there.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Cutting the grass.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
People who know you know these things about you that
you are and have been a great musician and a
drummer and played in many bands through the years, and
that your knowledge of medicine was always I thought extraordinary,
especially being a sports broadcaster, that you had such a
deep interest in medicine and things like that. If not,
if you're going back to career day, if you went
(07:49):
back now, not that you wouldn't choose sports announcing again,
but what else might you have done if the path
had not led you into sports broadcasting?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Oh golly.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I was one of those lucky kids that always kind
of had a vision. Once I realized that I would
not be playing sports at a high level on account
of the amount.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Of cigarettes and whiskey consumed.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
By my mother during my gestation, I just wanted to
be wanted to just try to cover sports. But I've
always loved dermatology. I think skin is the largest, the
heaviest organ in the body, and one of the most interesting.
And so I'm sort of my successes are outnumbered by
(08:35):
my failures. But it's nothing for me to to burn
a Vruka plane terrace off with a soldering iron and
some vassolin.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
See.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Dermatology enables you to use many of the tools you
have her eyes and so that do it yourself for
gene kicks in. But I also love I just love
being outside. I love taking care of I love taking
care of property and so being I don't know, being
(09:05):
a golf court turf grass, being the golf court superintendent
or something like that, where you could I don't know,
be out kind of caddy shacking it around that Sometimes
I thought, if my twig has been in a different way,
I would have enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That I love, But I mean it's the most positive way.
How eclectic you are. I love that answer. And that's
kind of if I was like pulling, like what is
Mick in a nutshell? It's like how many different things
Mick could do? Because you're so adept at some of
our things. And we're not going to name a single
name here, but you and I would many times have
a broadcaster walk out of our booth if we're doing
a pregame interview or they stopped to visit before a
(09:39):
game would start her afterwards, and we would think or
say out loud because we say stupid things to each other,
is that all that guy is is like he is
just ten to five touchdown, Because you feel like they
go home and then they just go back and listen
to their broadcast and talk about the game that they
broadcast all week and what their winning percentage was, and
games called and things like that, because it feels like
(09:59):
that is their lives, is that they are Ron radio
and there there's nothing more to them than that.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You give me started. Man, you know all the buttons
to push. I'll deal with you. I will sternly upgrade
you later when the podcast is over.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But sometimes I feel as though I have.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I felt when you and I were working together, as
though and then the college ranks too, as though I
was surrounded by these cartoon characters sent over by Central Casting,
with the Ted Baxter kind of radio voice, and the
cologne and the expensive watch and and the website. And
(10:38):
when you and then when you email these some of
these people, you find that their email is play by
play Bob at gmail dot com. Oh really, was you know?
It was b Williamson at Was that not available? I mean,
what the doof is?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I knew I say I was giving you red meat
when I threw that out there into the tank. But
I had to make that comment to play off the
difference that because Mick is is cut from a more
human cloth, I would say than many other broadcast types
are one or two more Because this isn't a documentary
it's merely a slice of life of hanging out with
Mick mixing here for a little bit on this week's
podcast with you, when you do get a call from
(11:21):
somebody to do something like I called you, I want
to say about a year ago, and I said, I've
been offered this college teaching class. It's sports play by play.
It's just it's nothing more hearty than that. It's once
a week, it's like an hour and a half and
it's only for fifteen weeks. Would you like to do it?
And you roundly said no, And so you said, you said,
(11:41):
if I was doing it, need to have you filled
in one time you would do that. But you really
mean it when you say when you've disconnected like you have.
So my question out of all that is, do you
follow Panthers closely, NFL, the Tar Heels? Is there anything
in the sports world or are you just completely disconnected
and you just get little nuggets here and there. As
(12:03):
far as the previous life, you had.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Nuggets and that's it. I don't follow it like I
used to.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I couldn't tell you who I don't know. I don't
know for example, who the Panthers are playing this coming
weekend or whether it's an open date. I say would
be true with North Carolina, n CY State, ECU, Wake,
et cetera. But every once in a while something will
catch my interest a major Sunday Augusta, the Ryder Cup
(12:35):
every other year sometimes and sometimes uh at the end
of the pregame show. I like listening to you guys
in the pregame show. I'll tune in occasionally when I'm
riding up and down the road or just sort of
catch the last couple of seconds of a game. But
it's fascinating, zoke, and it's unbelievable to to be able
to just kind of be, I don't know, be a
(12:56):
fan again and just just decide what you want to
look at when you want to look at it. And
then also, the quality of my life is not affected
by what team wins or loses. And that's got a
lot to be said forward as well.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
All Right, we're going to leave it there in Burlington
with Mick, And it wasn't even my intention, but pretty
sure we didn't actually talk about sports for the entire time.
I enjoyed that aspect of it just as much as
just talking life itself with you.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Mick, always great to catch up with you. Oh Zo
man I, Cherish our friendship.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Give Sandra a big hug, and y'all come see me
and Dawny and me when you can't deal.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Thank you, Mick, Thanks pout.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Thirty seasons of Panther Football.
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