December 20, 2024 • 14 mins
Celebrate 30 seasons of Carolina Panthers football with Jim Szoke. Join him as he sits down with the key figures who shaped the past 29 seasons, reminiscing on the moments that made Panther's history. This week's guest is former Panthers fullback, Brad Hoover.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
He grew up up the road from Charlotte and Thomasville,
North Carolina. Played his college football at Western Carolina University.
He only played for one NFL team, and that was,
of course, the Carolina Panthers. Talking about fullback Brad Hoover,
part of the Super Bowl thirty eight team. As we
catch up with Hoover.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Today, thirty seasons of Panther football a celebration of the players, coaches,
and other key figures who've contributed to the organizational success.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
All right, Brad Hoover, a fan favored for ten years
with the Carolina Panthers two thousand to nine, played for
John Fox and that Super Bowl thirty eight team, of course,
and a legend in these regions from high school to
college and still staying here in the Charlotte area as well.
And Brad, great to catch up with you, man. I mean,
we miss having you and hearing that Hoover in the
(00:52):
stadium there. But you're talking about Panther legends. You're one
of those guys. How's it feel to know that your
entire playing career was spent with your hometown team.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I was definitely a special experience to get to play.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah, basically here at home, and you know, just the
way the fans embraced a local guy and to get
to play. I don't say I had to pinch myself
sometimes to play a ten year career. It is kind
of unbelievable from my standpoint, considered the circumstances I came in.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, because of course you were a great running back
growing up, high school, college. How how much did you
have to bulk up to eventually get to the weight
at fullback for the NFL.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That you got to. It was a process.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
The first year they when they asked me to make
the switch to play and fall back, I want to
say maybe I tried to put on ten to fifteen pounds. Well,
then the next year it was how much more can
I put on? And then it was really finding how
heavy could I get and still play an efficient.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Level.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And you know, at one point I got to around
two sixty five two seventy realized I couldn't run like that,
so I needed to be in that.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Two fifties or two fifty five range.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Just kind of what we settled on for a weight
for myself that I could still play at a high
level and be efficient enough at that level.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It's amazing you guys, you know, put on that weight,
lose the weight and all that, but helps you, obviously
at the NFL level, to have that on your bones
there for you. You know again you mentioned Lentford High
School is where you played your high school ball up
at Thomasville and then Western Carolina University for your college ball.
Of course in the Hall of Fame there too. So
(02:42):
did you ever, once you got into your NFL career
or towards the end of it, was there ever an
opportunity or a thought of maybe playing with another NFL
team or was it just always going to be the
Panthers for you?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Definitely, towards the end, I have some opportunities.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
To continue playing football with another NFL team.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It just.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And I thought about it, because I think you asked
most guys, and I was like, yeah, I've got a
couple more years, and you know, I thought.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I did too.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
But at the end of the day, it wasn't worth
moving for me. I had two young kids or you
know now a almost twenty year old and almost seventeen
year old, but at the time they were young and
I just.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Growing up in North Carolina. My wife is from Charlotte.
My kids. That's all beating on them.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
So I just kind of rode off in the sunset
and retired without exploring other options.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, you've stuck around the area. So what of your
daughters is in college and one in the high school?
If you got one in high school, I know you're
not moving now, right. You are at Charlotte Latten. We
talked with Kurt Coleman. Of course, he does something the
broadcast with us, and he's in a minute raded there
as Charlotte Lattin. I know your assistant coaching there, and
you were a head coach previously a couple of stops
(04:05):
Union Academy in Monroe, Marvin Ridge and Cannon School. You know,
a high school football star like you. What's it what's
it like being on the other side and being that
coach for these young kids.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It's definitely I enjoy it, but it's definitely different. I've
learned to I'm still competitive, but I've learned to kind
of dial back that competitive nature and myself a little
bit more. And it's more about the learning process of
all right, what are the difference I can.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Make or hope to make on this young man?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And you know that's kind of what has kept me
in the coaching and and kind of pursuing that career
or path because I do, like, you know, naturally scheming
up x's and o's, but what.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Can I do to hopefully help this kid's life wouldcome
a little better.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
My high school coach had a profil effect on me,
and maybe that's why I'm at the high school level,
because I feel like that's probably at the spot that
I can make the most headway with a young man
in their journey of not only finding themselves or maybe
even from a sports standpoint, but really learning. You know,
(05:24):
every sport we play teaches us lessons of life, and
we're just here to help enforce those things and kind
of teach through the sport that we love.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Now, it's great that you have a heart for that,
and you know, everyone's got a different path. I mean,
you were an undrafted player coming into the pros and
had a ten year career, So I would think your
story is really relatable to high school kids and that
you know most are that as far as earning it
every step of the way. But you really did that again,
changing positions, undrafted in the league, working away from high
school through a smaller college, like Western Carolina to get
(05:57):
to the pros. So I would think those kinds of
stories certainly packed the high school kids you talk with.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Oh yeah, I definitely hope that's the case, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I definitely try to share my story with them, you know,
And I've a lot of the kids that i've I've
had contact with. My grandfather used to tell me this
will and he said, the only free cheese is on trap.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And it's very true.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Like if it's not worth working for, somebody gives you something,
it's not worth having. And you know, that's kind of
been like you said, in my career is it wasn't
given to me. I had to work for it. Every
year they were trying to bring in someone to replace me.
I had to work to keep it. And it worked
for ten years until eventually our bodies just start, yeah,
(06:45):
degrading or falling apart. But like, I enjoyed every bit
of it. If I could do it all over again,
I would do it all over again because I love
football that much. They paid me to play a game,
which is kind of you have to pinch yourself, you're like,
and now I'm just as a coach. I try to
share my knowledge that I've learned throughout the years at
(07:07):
the high school, college and pro level, and then hopefully,
like I said early, trying to make.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
An impact with these kids, whether it's on or off
the field.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Little tangent you're saying, free cheese kind of spurred this
in my mind too. All this NIL money which is
college football. Of course, there's a lot of there's a
lot of cheese out there, a lot of free cheese
being hanging out to high school kids and trying to
woo them to different colleges. We just saw Bill Belichick
get hired at North Carolina and the impact that's had
on their NIL going from four million to twenty million.
You're at a prominent high school as Charlotte Latton. What's
(07:38):
the impact been like as far as you know, seeing
some of these kids making their college choices coming out
of high school now just you know, brought strokes wise anyway,
nothing individual, but what you're kind of seeing at the
high school level, as far as you know, all that
money that's being thrown around now trying to get these
kids to pick their colleges.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, I mean I definitely understand that. Do I like it? No?
And I think it's.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Ruin in my opinion, is is ruined in amateur sports.
We really don't have amateur sports anymore. I mean, you
could say the high school level is your amateur sports.
But even at the high school level, you know, the
independent schools last year adopted in IL.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So, like, I don't have the answer for you other
than I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So no, it's changed it because it's like it's supposed
to be continuing education, right, so he's supposed to pick
your college education. And as part of that, you play football.
And as we all know, very small percentage of even
really good, big high, big college level players go on
to pro football as far as a career.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Of playing in it goes.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So you're really impacting as far as you know, the
percentage number, not a lot as far as getting onto
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
We had I do East Carolina football too, do their
play by play, and there was a kid that passed
through there I won't name, but he's played at three
different schools and he's just entered the transfer portal. So
we've talked about kids go four years for colleges. That's
just one I know of. I'm sure there's many more.
Brand four schools in one year one December to the
next December. For schools that's not that's not going to
(09:10):
college now.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And you know, not only that, but coach is trying
to build continuity or I mean it just I believe
it creates so many different issues that can be controlled
or can't be controlled, you know. But at the end
of the day, I don't like the fact of the
transport pearl. I think it we ought to have some
(09:35):
you know, regulations to that. It shouldn't just be you know,
you're free to go or you know, you're constantly looking.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You know, even when I was in.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
School, they had to you know, release you to to
even try to transfer out of your colleges. And you know,
it's it kept me in school for a while. I
mean because even after my freshman year, I'm like, I
think you as a as an athlete, didn't even going
to college for the first time. You're sitting here going
did I make the right choice? And and even myself,
(10:07):
I was asking myself, you know, am I happy here?
And you know, even even went to taught to coach
and he's like, no, we're not releasing you.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So I was stuck. That was the best decision ever
happened to me.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You know, from then on I started getting some playing time.
It wasn't because of that, It's just because I adjusted
to college. I couldn't imagine myself at a other than
Western Carolina at the time because I mean just of
what it gave me the opportunity to do and not
only play football, but you know, get an education that
(10:42):
I probably wouldn't have got elsewhere otherwise, and then then
going to play in school. So yeah, I know it's
it doesn't make always make for the ideal story, but
like sometimes just the great you know, what I tell
kids is grass is not always screener. On the other side,
I know you have to weigh your options, but hopefully
(11:04):
they're making educating decisions when they do this. And I
can almost say not saying there's not, but it's probably
more likely than not they're not.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
One part of getting better is learning from those in
front of you. You come as a young player and
you watch those before you wait your time, and you
grow and learn to become better by watching those in
front of you. I think these kids are missing out
on that opportunity transferring all the time, But that's college ball.
Let's go back to your pro career, ten years with
the Panthers, that season two thousand and three, going to
Super Bowl thirty eight. When you look back, is that
(11:37):
where you reflect a lot of your favorite memories or
when you look back at your ten years a decade
with the Panthers, what were some of the like if
you had to do your prioritize, like the the Brad
Hoover NFL story with the Panthers, what kind of tops
the list for you?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, definitely the super Bowl year back in two thousand
and three would probably top the list. You know, if
somebody asked me one time, what would be your top
three moments super Bowl? You know three would be number one,
maybe my rookie season, the Green Bay game, my rookie season,
(12:13):
rushing for over one hundred yards, having you know, a
really good game on Monday Night football. And then the
third one would probably be the eight season blocking for
both Jonathan and and DiAngelo both going over eleven third yards.
That if I look back on my career, those are
(12:35):
the three things that stand out.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Those are great things with the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And I always wanted to ask books John Fox, what
did you have a favorite John Fox is them among
his many says or what was in general was like
having Foxy as your coach for so many years.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
He was awesome. I mean you probably can go on
and on forever. I mean everything was a cliche at
the end of the day. He he was so well
respected because he treated his players correctly.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Uh, And I think that's why I was so liked.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
I mean, he was definitely a player's coach, even though
it's toughest nails, hard as nails and very strict, but
like you knew where you stood with him, and there
wasn't any gray here. So but I mean just the
day in and day out cliches.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
There's still things that pop in my head. I don't
say one particular because I could go on and on.
And I'm sure you talked to guys during that coaching
span of players that played for him. They would go
on and on as well.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Well, I do have to ask you. We'll let you
go after this. But like sometimes people realize there are
a certain age when start quoting their parents. Have you
ever actually deadly blurted out a Foxism or one of
your previous coaches that go, oh, no, I'm that guy.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Now, Oh yeah, I do it, probably more often than not,
because it's you know, you get ain't that way, and
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I'll say things out on the field and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, I'm saying the exact same things that I was
taught or you know, heard on the field. Sou I
mean it's a good and bad thing. I think it's
good because I respect Coach Fox and what he did
here with the organization.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
And his time with the Panthers, and you know.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
So for those things to kind of come out sometimes
I look at it, it's an honor, not a regret.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You keep it alive, keep that legacy alive.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And we all love John Fox here too.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
We love having Brad Hoover. It was a joy to
watch your career for ten years, Brad, and we're glad
you're still here in the area, impacting high school kids
and you're raising her family here. So thanks for spending
some time catching up with us today.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
We appreciate it, all right, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So I appreciate thirty seasons of Panther football
He grew up up the road from Charlotte and Thomasville,
North Carolina. Played his college football at Western Carolina University.
He only played for one NFL team, and that was,
of course, the Carolina Panthers. Talking about fullback Brad Hoover,
part of the Super Bowl thirty eight team. As we
catch up with Hoover.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Today, thirty seasons of Panther football a celebration of the players, coaches,
and other key figures who've contributed to the organizational success.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
All right, Brad Hoover, a fan favored for ten years
with the Carolina Panthers two thousand to nine, played for
John Fox and that Super Bowl thirty eight team, of course,
and a legend in these regions from high school to
college and still staying here in the Charlotte area as well.
And Brad, great to catch up with you, man. I mean,
we miss having you and hearing that Hoover in the
(00:52):
stadium there. But you're talking about Panther legends. You're one
of those guys. How's it feel to know that your
entire playing career was spent with your hometown team.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I was definitely a special experience to get to play.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah, basically here at home, and you know, just the
way the fans embraced a local guy and to get
to play. I don't say I had to pinch myself
sometimes to play a ten year career. It is kind
of unbelievable from my standpoint, considered the circumstances I came in.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, because of course you were a great running back
growing up, high school, college. How how much did you
have to bulk up to eventually get to the weight
at fullback for the NFL.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That you got to. It was a process.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
The first year they when they asked me to make
the switch to play and fall back, I want to
say maybe I tried to put on ten to fifteen pounds. Well,
then the next year it was how much more can
I put on? And then it was really finding how
heavy could I get and still play an efficient.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Level.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And you know, at one point I got to around
two sixty five two seventy realized I couldn't run like that,
so I needed to be in that.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Two fifties or two fifty five range.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Just kind of what we settled on for a weight
for myself that I could still play at a high
level and be efficient enough at that level.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It's amazing you guys, you know, put on that weight,
lose the weight and all that, but helps you, obviously
at the NFL level, to have that on your bones
there for you. You know again you mentioned Lentford High
School is where you played your high school ball up
at Thomasville and then Western Carolina University for your college ball.
Of course in the Hall of Fame there too. So
(02:42):
did you ever, once you got into your NFL career
or towards the end of it, was there ever an
opportunity or a thought of maybe playing with another NFL
team or was it just always going to be the
Panthers for you?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Definitely, towards the end, I have some opportunities.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
To continue playing football with another NFL team.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It just.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And I thought about it, because I think you asked
most guys, and I was like, yeah, I've got a
couple more years, and you know, I thought.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I did too.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
But at the end of the day, it wasn't worth
moving for me. I had two young kids or you
know now a almost twenty year old and almost seventeen
year old, but at the time they were young and
I just.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Growing up in North Carolina. My wife is from Charlotte.
My kids. That's all beating on them.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
So I just kind of rode off in the sunset
and retired without exploring other options.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, you've stuck around the area. So what of your
daughters is in college and one in the high school?
If you got one in high school, I know you're
not moving now, right. You are at Charlotte Latten. We
talked with Kurt Coleman. Of course, he does something the
broadcast with us, and he's in a minute raded there
as Charlotte Lattin. I know your assistant coaching there, and
you were a head coach previously a couple of stops
(04:05):
Union Academy in Monroe, Marvin Ridge and Cannon School. You know,
a high school football star like you. What's it what's
it like being on the other side and being that
coach for these young kids.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It's definitely I enjoy it, but it's definitely different. I've
learned to I'm still competitive, but I've learned to kind
of dial back that competitive nature and myself a little
bit more. And it's more about the learning process of
all right, what are the difference I can.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Make or hope to make on this young man?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And you know that's kind of what has kept me
in the coaching and and kind of pursuing that career
or path because I do, like, you know, naturally scheming
up x's and o's, but what.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Can I do to hopefully help this kid's life wouldcome
a little better.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
My high school coach had a profil effect on me,
and maybe that's why I'm at the high school level,
because I feel like that's probably at the spot that
I can make the most headway with a young man
in their journey of not only finding themselves or maybe
even from a sports standpoint, but really learning. You know,
(05:24):
every sport we play teaches us lessons of life, and
we're just here to help enforce those things and kind
of teach through the sport that we love.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Now, it's great that you have a heart for that,
and you know, everyone's got a different path. I mean,
you were an undrafted player coming into the pros and
had a ten year career, So I would think your
story is really relatable to high school kids and that
you know most are that as far as earning it
every step of the way. But you really did that again,
changing positions, undrafted in the league, working away from high
school through a smaller college, like Western Carolina to get
(05:57):
to the pros. So I would think those kinds of
stories certainly packed the high school kids you talk with.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Oh yeah, I definitely hope that's the case, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I definitely try to share my story with them, you know,
And I've a lot of the kids that i've I've
had contact with. My grandfather used to tell me this
will and he said, the only free cheese is on trap.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And it's very true.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Like if it's not worth working for, somebody gives you something,
it's not worth having. And you know, that's kind of
been like you said, in my career is it wasn't
given to me. I had to work for it. Every
year they were trying to bring in someone to replace me.
I had to work to keep it. And it worked
for ten years until eventually our bodies just start, yeah,
(06:45):
degrading or falling apart. But like, I enjoyed every bit
of it. If I could do it all over again,
I would do it all over again because I love
football that much. They paid me to play a game,
which is kind of you have to pinch yourself, you're like,
and now I'm just as a coach. I try to
share my knowledge that I've learned throughout the years at
(07:07):
the high school, college and pro level, and then hopefully,
like I said early, trying to make.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
An impact with these kids, whether it's on or off
the field.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Little tangent you're saying, free cheese kind of spurred this
in my mind too. All this NIL money which is
college football. Of course, there's a lot of there's a
lot of cheese out there, a lot of free cheese
being hanging out to high school kids and trying to
woo them to different colleges. We just saw Bill Belichick
get hired at North Carolina and the impact that's had
on their NIL going from four million to twenty million.
You're at a prominent high school as Charlotte Latton. What's
(07:38):
the impact been like as far as you know, seeing
some of these kids making their college choices coming out
of high school now just you know, brought strokes wise anyway,
nothing individual, but what you're kind of seeing at the
high school level, as far as you know, all that
money that's being thrown around now trying to get these
kids to pick their colleges.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, I mean I definitely understand that. Do I like it? No?
And I think it's.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Ruin in my opinion, is is ruined in amateur sports.
We really don't have amateur sports anymore. I mean, you
could say the high school level is your amateur sports.
But even at the high school level, you know, the
independent schools last year adopted in IL.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So, like, I don't have the answer for you other
than I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So no, it's changed it because it's like it's supposed
to be continuing education, right, so he's supposed to pick
your college education. And as part of that, you play football.
And as we all know, very small percentage of even
really good, big high, big college level players go on
to pro football as far as a career.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Of playing in it goes.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So you're really impacting as far as you know, the
percentage number, not a lot as far as getting onto
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
We had I do East Carolina football too, do their
play by play, and there was a kid that passed
through there I won't name, but he's played at three
different schools and he's just entered the transfer portal. So
we've talked about kids go four years for colleges. That's
just one I know of. I'm sure there's many more.
Brand four schools in one year one December to the
next December. For schools that's not that's not going to
(09:10):
college now.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And you know, not only that, but coach is trying
to build continuity or I mean it just I believe
it creates so many different issues that can be controlled
or can't be controlled, you know. But at the end
of the day, I don't like the fact of the
transport pearl. I think it we ought to have some
(09:35):
you know, regulations to that. It shouldn't just be you know,
you're free to go or you know, you're constantly looking.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You know, even when I was in.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
School, they had to you know, release you to to
even try to transfer out of your colleges. And you know,
it's it kept me in school for a while. I
mean because even after my freshman year, I'm like, I
think you as a as an athlete, didn't even going
to college for the first time. You're sitting here going
did I make the right choice? And and even myself,
(10:07):
I was asking myself, you know, am I happy here?
And you know, even even went to taught to coach
and he's like, no, we're not releasing you.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So I was stuck. That was the best decision ever
happened to me.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You know, from then on I started getting some playing time.
It wasn't because of that, It's just because I adjusted
to college. I couldn't imagine myself at a other than
Western Carolina at the time because I mean just of
what it gave me the opportunity to do and not
only play football, but you know, get an education that
(10:42):
I probably wouldn't have got elsewhere otherwise, and then then
going to play in school. So yeah, I know it's
it doesn't make always make for the ideal story, but
like sometimes just the great you know, what I tell
kids is grass is not always screener. On the other side,
I know you have to weigh your options, but hopefully
(11:04):
they're making educating decisions when they do this. And I
can almost say not saying there's not, but it's probably
more likely than not they're not.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
One part of getting better is learning from those in
front of you. You come as a young player and
you watch those before you wait your time, and you
grow and learn to become better by watching those in
front of you. I think these kids are missing out
on that opportunity transferring all the time, But that's college ball.
Let's go back to your pro career, ten years with
the Panthers, that season two thousand and three, going to
Super Bowl thirty eight. When you look back, is that
(11:37):
where you reflect a lot of your favorite memories or
when you look back at your ten years a decade
with the Panthers, what were some of the like if
you had to do your prioritize, like the the Brad
Hoover NFL story with the Panthers, what kind of tops
the list for you?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, definitely the super Bowl year back in two thousand
and three would probably top the list. You know, if
somebody asked me one time, what would be your top
three moments super Bowl? You know three would be number one,
maybe my rookie season, the Green Bay game, my rookie season,
(12:13):
rushing for over one hundred yards, having you know, a
really good game on Monday Night football. And then the
third one would probably be the eight season blocking for
both Jonathan and and DiAngelo both going over eleven third yards.
That if I look back on my career, those are
(12:35):
the three things that stand out.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Those are great things with the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And I always wanted to ask books John Fox, what
did you have a favorite John Fox is them among
his many says or what was in general was like
having Foxy as your coach for so many years.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
He was awesome. I mean you probably can go on
and on forever. I mean everything was a cliche at
the end of the day. He he was so well
respected because he treated his players correctly.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Uh, And I think that's why I was so liked.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
I mean, he was definitely a player's coach, even though
it's toughest nails, hard as nails and very strict, but
like you knew where you stood with him, and there
wasn't any gray here. So but I mean just the
day in and day out cliches.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
There's still things that pop in my head. I don't
say one particular because I could go on and on.
And I'm sure you talked to guys during that coaching
span of players that played for him. They would go
on and on as well.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Well, I do have to ask you. We'll let you
go after this. But like sometimes people realize there are
a certain age when start quoting their parents. Have you
ever actually deadly blurted out a Foxism or one of
your previous coaches that go, oh, no, I'm that guy.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Now, Oh yeah, I do it, probably more often than not,
because it's you know, you get ain't that way, and
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I'll say things out on the field and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, I'm saying the exact same things that I was
taught or you know, heard on the field. Sou I
mean it's a good and bad thing. I think it's
good because I respect Coach Fox and what he did
here with the organization.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
And his time with the Panthers, and you know.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
So for those things to kind of come out sometimes
I look at it, it's an honor, not a regret.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You keep it alive, keep that legacy alive.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And we all love John Fox here too.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
We love having Brad Hoover. It was a joy to
watch your career for ten years, Brad, and we're glad
you're still here in the area, impacting high school kids
and you're raising her family here. So thanks for spending
some time catching up with us today.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
We appreciate it, all right, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So I appreciate thirty seasons of Panther football
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