July 2, 2025 • 32 mins
The national debt has become a looming sword of Damocles over our economy with potential catastrophic consequences when the bill comes due. We explore the only three possible outcomes: paying the debt (impossible), inflating our way out (leading to hyperinflation), or economic collapse—and propose a radical but viable alternative.
• The U.S. currently carries about $38 trillion in debt, more than any country has ever owed in history
• Politicians will likely choose inflation as the path of least resistance, but this historically leads to hyperinflation and societal collapse
• During economic crises, societies often turn to strong leadership, creating conditions for potential authoritarianism
• The ancient Roman model of Cincinnatus offers an alternative vision of leadership—solving problems then voluntarily relinquishing power
• Federal government owns approximately $400-500 trillion worth of land that could be strategically sold to address the debt crisis
• Selling federal lands would require careful implementation to prevent cronyism and ensure transparent, fair processes
• Private land ownership often results in better stewardship than government management
• This approach represents a pragmatic alternative to economic catastrophe
Pick up a copy of A Radical Reset, the Manifesto of Antipolitism, on Amazon in Kindle, paperback or hardcover versions to learn more about creating a republic by merit-based lottery that removes money and ambition from governance.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Happy Wednesday, dudes and dudettes.
It's me, herbie K, your hosthere on A Radical Reset, the
home of antipolitism.
If you're interested inantipolitism, as I open each
show, I will remind you.
You can pick up a copy of ARadical Reset, the Manifesto of
Antipolitism, on Amazon ineither Kindle, paperback or
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hardcover versions.
Simplified, and there's apodcast about it earlier.
You can find it if you scrolldown through the episodes where
I do a quick overview of it.
But Simplified, it is a republicby merit-based lottery, open to
everyone.
Open to everyone in the sensethat if you do something of
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merit you'll be in the lottery.
And from that we convertCongress, we take all the money
out of politics, there are nopolitical campaigns and we
eliminate most of the corruption.
People will always find a wayto be corrupt.
We live in a real world, not animaginary world, but mostly all
of the corruption and we getrid of special interests, except
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to inform us there's nothingwrong with someone coming to a
congressman's office and sayingthis is why you should support
this and here's the reasons why.
And yada, yada, yada.
That's fine.
It's another thing altogetherif they hold a $25,000 plate
fundraiser for the next campaign.
That's going to cost hundredsof millions of dollars in
presidential terms anyway.
So, to make a long story short,it is a near perfect republic.
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Now, I consciously don't usethe word democracy, because
democracy is mob rule and alwaysends in tyranny, and I'm trying
to avoid that in our ownculture, unlike all the other
democracies that have tried thisexperiment before us and failed
, even in current times, if youthink about it.
So let's, today, talk about thelooming sword of Damocles
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hanging over our economy.
I want to talk about thenational debt.
Now.
It's one of those things whereit's talked about so much.
I think people are so numb toit and so disconnected from what
it really means and what itcould mean to them that it loses
its meaning, and I completelyunderstand that.
I mean it's a mind-bogglingnumber, you know.
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Today I don't know what it is.
It could be I think it's 36 or37 trillion.
We're adding several trillion ayear, and they're in this whole
big beautiful bill debatethingy that Trump has to have
done to preserve tax cuts.
I understand all the things.
I don't mean to make light ofall those things.
Those are all important issues,but here's where I'm coming
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from.
One day we're going to have tosettle this bill and there is
only going to be three ways.
There are only three ways tosettle it.
We can either pay the bill andwe don't have the $38 extra
trillion laying around in cashto do that, and the only way to
have that extra $38 trillionaround to do that would be to do
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the second way, which is themost likely way, which is
politicians will choose toinflate our way out of it or try
to, and it'll end in ahyperinflation.
But when it does, you knowit'll anyway.
We all know what comes of that.
Hitler's come from, things likethat, but that's always what
happens at the end of one ofthese democracies.
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I hate to tell you, but that isthe historic norm.
The politicians will choose toinflate because it calls, at
least in the very short term.
It calls for no sacrifice, andif you don't have to sacrifice,
that's what politicians like,because their number one goal in
life is getting reelected.
So that would be the secondchoice.
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And the third choice is which iswhat it will ultimately come to
if we choose the second one iscollapse, and collapse it does
happen.
This is where the whole worldhas to do a giant reset.
Poverty becomes endemic.
People who thought they weresafe are soon going to learn the
Buddhist maxim that control isa delusion and safety is an
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illusion.
Safety is an illusion andcontrol is a illusion and
control is a delusion.
Okay, everyone got that.
Nobody is really safe.
You know, when you build awhole life, it can be wiped away
in just a minute.
Hold on, I have to take a sipof water.
Okay, here we go.
Also, the idea that you havecontrol of anything beyond your
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bowels, and then only to acertain age, is just an illusion
.
Okay, things happen all thetime.
That's why we constantlycomplicate our lives.
That's why I've said many, many,many times that I, as also a
semi-follower, at least ofTaoism the philosophy, not the
religion believe that, as LaoTzu says, it's better to do
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nothing than to be busy doingnothing.
Or, in other words, 999.999times out of 1,000, the best
thing to do about anything isnothing.
By the way, I've given thisadvice to people many, many
times over the years and almostinvariably later they'll tell me
they wish they took it, becausethey also almost invariably
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never take it.
Funny how people ask for advice.
I don't offer advice unlessasked for.
Funny to me how many people askfor advice with no intention of
taking it, it's just funny.
They're really looking to haveechoed back to them what they
think they already know.
But if someone says to them,well, here's what you really
should do, they never do it Notever.
This is why I could never be,for example, a psychologist or
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psychiatrist.
It would drive me crazy.
As soon as that came out of mymouth, that sounded kind of
funny.
Anyway, let's talk about what wecan really do, what we could do
about the debt if, magically,magically, we became rational.
Now, I do not hold out highhopes for this.
My hope is that things becomereally, really Okay, let me back
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this up.
I was about to go right into it, but before I do, I want to
make this very clear, okay, andI want to set a few parameters
and guidelines in this.
We're human beings.
We don't live in a perfectworld or on a perfect planet or
in a perfect universe other thanyou know.
Somehow the math perfectlyworks out, but beyond that,
that's it.
There is no perfection.
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Therefore, particularly becausewe are human beings, things
will never go as planned.
You know, men plan and Godlaughs.
So you know, we do a lot ofthings and we also have the
perception that the people aboveus somehow know more than we do
.
You know, the whole idea ofanti-politism came to me when it
dawned on me that I could walkthrough any crowd of average
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people in the United States andin any area I could go to I
don't know a rodeo okay, wherethere's going to be, you know
thousands of people.
Or a NASCAR race or a, if youprefer, an Indy race I don't
know what I'm.
You know a baseball game, afootball game.
I could go to any largegathering of people in a broad
section of the economy okay, andpoint at 535 people randomly,
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and they would have an IQ atleast equal to the existing
Congress.
That there's really nothingspecial about any of these
people.
The perception that any of themknow something that you don't
know is, I think it has to dowith our need for kingship.
I think that's why in the Biblethey talk about kings, not
presidents.
I think we have a need tobelieve that someone above us is
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somehow divinely inspired toknow more than we do, or at
least not divinely inspired hasaccess to information and a
know-how that we somehow do notpossess, and I think we'd all be
terrified to understand howlittle different really the
private conversations are fromthe public conversations of the
people we hope are smarter inprivate.
If you know what I mean, and Iknow that you do so when I go
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into what I'm about to talkabout, I'm about to lay out a
parameter of how it could happen, and it's going to sound like
it could sound like I'm wishingthis upon us.
You know, sometimes the choicesare not between good or bad.
The choices are not betweengood or bad, but between bad and
worse, and that's what we'relooking at here.
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We are nominally in debt morethan any other country has ever
been in the history of the wholeworld.
We owe more money thananybody's ever owed to anybody
ever, at any time, anywhere.
Any way, no one has ever donewhat we've done, which is built
an entire lifestyle on debt, andincreasingly so with every
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passing day, where thegovernment becomes increasingly
a provider of everything, downto happiness, or at least it
tries to, and inevitably screwsit all up.
But we spend and borrowenormous amounts of money to do
this.
And here we are, so we're notgoing to go through a rehash of
how we got ourselves in debt.
Another sip of water, becausefor some reason I'm dry.
I live in Arizona, guys.
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The humidity today is 8%, 8.
That's not 18 or 80.
8.
So it gets a little dry hereOkay, here we go.
I little dry here Okay, here wego.
I grew up in Miami, where it wasexactly the opposite.
This time of year, I'd betaking a shower with my clothes
on, whether I wanted to or not.
Okay, so, anyway, where was I?
So the scenario I'm going tolay out is we're going to have a
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disaster one way or the other.
Now, look, I'm not wishing thisupon us.
I don't hope it happens.
It's just going to happen, andI know that there are plenty of
doomsdayers who think it's goingto be the breakdown of all
society.
And it could be, but I findthat unlikely.
Okay, people tend to closeranks when things turn to
absolute mud, but when we closeranks, we're going to look for a
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new leader.
And is that leader going tolead us into a Hitlerian vision
of disaster, as is so often thecase, not necessarily with the
whole Holocaust that goes withit, but basically a dictatorship
of another idiot who claims toknow more than we do, but
doesn't?
Everybody is about the same,guys.
The only difference between theperson running for office and
you is the level of shame thatthey can tolerate and what
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they're willing to do for career.
That's why I want to changepolitics from a career to a duty
, so that the people who getinvolved in are there because
they have a duty to serve theircommunity and their country, as
opposed to an ambition, andbecause every time they look in
the mirror they see thepresident of the United States,
which is, believe me, the caseof the vast majority of
politicians.
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And you know that's true.
You just know it instinctivelywhen I say it.
I guess it would be impossibleto fact check it, but common
sense would tell you that's thecase.
They're constantly looking toclimb the ladder, climb the
ladder and, in their heart ofhearts, the ultimate height of
the ladder.
So anyway, particularly at thenational level, at the state
level, it's a different story.
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The things I talk about in anantipolitism, under an
anti-political national regime,so to speak, national system, it
would be optional.
If the states wanted to do ananti-political model at the
state level or hold elections.
Some states with lightpopulations, like Wyoming, for
example, our least populousstate, would really.
I think they're our leastpopulous state.
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It's either them or Alaska, isit?
I don't know.
Anyway, they may want to justgo with elections, because
they're really.
It would be hard to set up abig enough random pool to do it
right.
Whatever, you know, it's up tothe state, because states don't
have that one damning abilitythat the federal government has,
which is the print money, whichis really what's got us into
all this trouble to begin with.
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So here we are.
So we're going to have a badtime.
I don't want to call it arecession or a depression or a
collapse.
Let's just say we're going togo through some really hard
times economically andpolitically, because the two
things cannot be extricated fromeach other.
But this is a cold, hard fact.
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We are going to go through somehard times, and when we do it's
, how are we going to cope withit?
How are we going to come out ofit?
I spoke a little bit in the lastpodcast about how a lot of
individuals are indebted, withstudent loan, debt of various
kinds.
But that's just a small part ofthe disaster that we're all in.
We're all a part of this.
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There's no getting out of it.
Rich to poor, there's nogetting around this.
We are about to have thepoo-poo hit the fan and a lot of
people who think they're poornow are going to find out what
poverty really is.
And that's a terrible thing andI'm not wishing it upon anybody
, but that's what's going tohappen, and it's because of all
of this debt and the bill isgoing to come due.
So here is the way that,potentially, an anti-political
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government would handle it.
So let's say, in this scenario,there's a collapse and let's
say that anti-politicism catcheson and the movement catches on
and yada, yada, or one thingleads to another, and the there
is an anti, anti.
It's not going to be apolitical party, but there are a
majority of people in congressand the president him or herself
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, who who now have bought intothe concept and you know what
are we going to do?
And we now have an and theyreset this.
I mean, this is really like afar-out scenario.
But but what would ananti-political government?
But what would ananti-political government do?
What would an anti-politicalpresident do?
It's much more likely, now thatI'm sitting here gaming this in
my head, it's very unlikelywe're going to elect an
anti-political Congress to dothis.
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It is far more likely we electa single individual, male or
female doesn't matter.
Why do I keep saying that?
I'm so trained?
Are you trained, like I am, toalways like disclaim everything
you say?
God forbid you should be takenwrong.
Maybe it's just me.
I, you know.
It's like, if I notice, theother day I was in a meeting
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with a woman and, frankly, shewalked into the room and she
smelled delightful.
I mean, there was no other wayto put it, but I didn't say it
because there's no way to say itwithout sounding creepy.
You know, I don't know.
So I just kept my mouth shut.
I don't know if that's a goodor a bad thing, and I had no
interest in this womanromantically.
I just thought she smelledgreat, and you know people who
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do that.
That's not an accident and Ithought I'd compliment her.
But then I thought, no, Ibetter not compliment her
because it'll just make me seemlike an old creeper.
So, anyway, we're going to gothrough a crash.
I don't even know why I wentinto that digression.
And so here's the scenario,however it plays out.
There's the anti-politicalpresident declares an emergency.
He gets an enablement act fromCongress to allow him or I'm
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going to keep using him, I'mjust going to use him as a
generic.
It's far more likely it's goingto be a him than a her.
Anyway, look at history.
The majority of leadership,particularly transformational
leadership, is virtually alwaysmale.
So, for good or for bad.
By the way, before feministsjump in and say well, yeah,
transformational can be very bad, it can be other.
Yeah, I know, I know, believeme, I know, but OK, so, so he's,
he goes to Congress.
It's an emergency, the economyis melting down.
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He's got to act.
He doesn't have time to futzaround with, you know, earmarks
and crap like that.
The country is screaming,people are losing their homes
left and right.
Unemployment is way high, it's,you know.
People are really wondering ifthey're going to have enough
food to eat.
What does that president?
And that's how bad it couldeasily be.
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What does that president do?
Well, the president, first ofall goes to Congress and gets
what's called an enablement act.
This recently happened, roughlyspeaking.
Again, this can be good or bad.
Hitler got an enablement act too, but Javier Millet got one in
Argentina, essentially the samething that allowed him he was
the only libertarian in thewhole country, but it allowed
him, as a libertarian, tobasically use his executive
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power.
And then, because his programshave been wildly successful, and
inflation has, by the way, ifyou want to see what libertarian
governance looks like, which isjust another word for common
sense, that's all libertarian is.
It just gets the government outof the way and lets people do
what they want to do.
It's been wildly successful inArgentina Since the day this man
took office.
He's the most popularpolitician in the world and the
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guy is the only libertarian inthe world elected to office.
It's amazing to me.
So, in fact, since libertarianand anti-political are the same
thing, it's going to be the sameprogram from each.
What would that libertarianslash, anti-political president
do?
They would get an enablementact so they could act with
executive authority, essentiallyas a dictator, frankly, with
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some strict boundaries, called,you know, the Bill of Rights.
You know the dictator can'tviolate the Bill of Rights, he
can't violate the Constitution,but he can rule by fiat.
Essentially, his signatureexecutive orders take on the
power of law and judges, whetherthey have the right or not,
cannot stop.
This is an emergency.
This is no time to play around.
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We don't want to go todictatorship, so we're going to
give somebody a temporary, verylimited dictatorship to fix this
thing.
By the way, the term dictatorwas not always a bad word Hitler
made it a bad word was notalways a bad word.
Hitler made it a bad word, butprior to that it was simply.
The Romans used it fairlyregularly.
The idea was that you wouldbring in a dictator for a year
or so and they would fixwhatever the horrible mess was
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and go away.
The most famous Roman dictatorwas Cincinnatus, who the city of
Cincinnati is named after.
And Cincinnatus was greatbecause he was made dictator
twice and both times it had todo with being invaded by
barbarians.
He was a great general.
He's retired.
Everybody loved him.
He was kind of the Colin Powellmixed with Alexander the Great
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of his day, and he went out andput down the barbarian invasions
and got it done.
But rather than stay in officeand enrich himself, which would
be traditional in the Romantradition and spend the rest of
his dictatorship, now that hesolved the problem, putting a
little money in his pocket bothtimes the first time, I think it
took him three weeks, thesecond time, I think it took him
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six weeks and he just resignedand went home, which is my idea
of what the ideal public servantis, an actual public servant.
So anyway, a lot of that.
Cincinn Cincinnati, by the waywas my role model in a lot of
ways in creating what I thoughtan anti-political government
should look like, and he was myhero's the wrong word, but he
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was definitely the person that Iwas thinking about as I was
modeling how to create agovernment of little
Cincinnatuses, and to do thatyou've got to get ambition out
of the way.
Cincinnatus was not.
His guiding vision in life wasbasically to retire to his farm,
not take over the RomanRepublic, which he easily could
have done and did not.
Okay, later someone came alongnamed Julius Caesar and turned
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dictatorship into a dirty word,and you know then, yada, yada,
yada, hitler, and blah, blah,blah, and there's anyway.
It's such a mixed history.
I'm going yada, yada, yada overmillennia, which is ridiculous,
but again, this is a shortpodcast, so anyway I'm going.
What would I do Now that we'veset all this parameter in
judgments?
I'm imagining myself in thisrole only because I'm a lunatic.
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What would the temporarilyempowered president do,
regardless of who it is?
And the answer is he or shewould sell off public lands.
That's the obvious solution tothis disaster, without
collapsing the whole country.
Now, the minute that you say thefederal government of the
United States owns so much land.
There's never been anythinglike it in history.
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It's the last vestige of truefreedom in this country.
So I say this very guardingly,but it's really our only
alternative to complete disaster.
We own somewhere.
We don't really know how much,but we own somewhere like maybe
$400 or $500 trillion worth ofland, we being the federal
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government, thereby the peopleof the United States, own about
that much.
It's hard to say.
Maybe more.
It could be a quadrilliondollars worth of it.
Anyway, we've got plenty ofland to sell off if we want to
Vast vast tracks.
Now, easy for me to say, andthose of you who are listening
to me and living in the city,this is going to sound like a
pretty good plan.
But for those of us and Iinclude myself in this, in this
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us who love the outdoors and whocamp and fish and hunt, and
regularly and I live in the West, where most of the land is
owned by the federal government,it's called BLM land, which is
not Black Lives Matter, it'sBureau of Land Management, and
you can camp on BLM land anyplace you feel like for free.
The only rule is you have tomove every two weeks.
I don't know why that rule.
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I guess it's to preventsquatters, I guess.
But anyway, I've camped on BLMland tons of times and it's
awesome and you're not alone outthere.
There are other people with thesame idea but you can get
pretty alone pretty fast ifthat's what you feel like and
there are no facilities,generally speaking, and you're
just out there on your own.
You gotta bring in your own.
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Whatever you bring in, you packout.
You don't leave trash, youleave it the way you found it.
The vast majority of campersand people that enjoy the
outdoors are practicallyreligious about this.
You meet the real bums everynow and then, but the vast
majority of people heck.
If I see trash when I'm out, Ipick it up, even though it's not
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my trash.
That's kind of how it is withpeople who enjoy the outdoors.
So when I say sell it off, thatbrings in visions of a country
turned into Disneyland.
I get it where you have to payfor access to what is now free
and then they turn it into awonderland.
I think that and that is a riskTo say that's not a real risk
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to say that someone won't try,that would be well, would be
dishonest.
But the truth of the matter iswe're talking millions upon
millions, upon millions, uponmillions of acres of land.
We're talking something like80% of the Western United States
, and there's plenty of it onthe East Coast too, just more
interspersed and other placesyou know, throughout the more
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populated areas.
But having said all that, youknow what would happen if
someone well, they, you know noone has that much money to buy
all that land, to turn it allinto Disneyland.
And the fact of the matter island.
If you're buying land asprivate property, there are a
few things that are going to betrue.
The first thing is you're goingto take better care of it than
the government does, which is tosay, not take care of it at all
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because it's your land.
So if the underbrush needs, youknow, removal or an invasive
species you know someone somehowgot into your property is
becoming a problem you'll dealwith it quickly, okay, as
opposed to just letting it getway out of control.
Letting it get way out ofcontrol.
The second thing is, speaking asa guy that camps all the time
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on BLM land, I don't know that Iwould have a problem paying a
small fee for access to, like Imean most of it is not going to
get sold anyway.
Let's get real.
There isn't that much money inthe world.
Even if we sold all our acreagefor a dollar an acre, there's
just not enough money in theworld to buy all of it.
Anyway, it would easily pay offour national debt.
So the bottom line is we'reonly talking about a part of
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this federal land being sold offbecause it's just so vast.
The federal government owns mostof the state of Alaska.
I'll tell you, what's reallyinteresting about Alaska is if
you were to somehow take Alaskaand place it in the center of
the United States, it wouldtouch every border North, south,
it would touch both oceans ifyou placed it in the center of
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the United States.
That's how big Alaska is, andmost of that is federal land.
No one's going to buy it all up.
So I think this is a fear, butnot necessarily a founded fear.
Will Disney lands of sortsspring up?
Yeah, but as long, you know, ina free market, if the public
wants it and someone meets thatneed.
So what I can see, for example,in a choice area you know, like
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where there's a phenomenal riverrunning through it, with
world-class trout fishing, let'ssay and since it's private land
I won't need a fishing license,I can just go fishing to pay a
little access fee in return formaintaining the river on the
part of the private owner.
Perhaps if it's a wild riveryou wouldn't stock it that would
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ruin it.
But if it's a semi-urbanlocation or close to an urban
area, you know those things areroutinely stocked.
A private owner would just do abetter job of it.
And if there was a nominal feeto go on and use that, I don't
see that that's a big deal.
And the fee of course has to benominal because it's a free
market.
If you charge too much, peoplewon't come.
It's as simple as that.
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No one has to set prices.
The free market sets pricesbetter than anyone can, because
people will only pay whatthey're willing to pay and
therefore, therefore, a sellercan only sell at a price that
people are willing to pay andprovide benefits.
So, for example, I as a guy thatone of the things I'm going to
be doing in the very near futureis I want to buy a travel
trailer and use it for camping.
There's a specialty kind oftrailer for what's called
boondocking.
Well, boondocking is campingwithout facilities.
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But look, if there was, forexample, easy access dump
stations to get rid of your.
You know this is going to be alittle oversharing, but when you
have this kind of an RV, youhave a water tank for your
drinking water and your you knowshower water.
Then you have a gray tank whichis where the water goes from,
like your dishes and your sinkand all that kind of stuff that.
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Or when you brush your teeth,all the stuff down the sink goes
into the gray water tank, butthe toilet water goes into
what's called the black watertank and that you know these
tanks have to be dumped.
You just can't go runningaround with a tank full of poop
and those are called dumpstations and you know to have
nice dump stations, maybemultiple dump stations in an
easy location that you can pullthrough.
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None of this means anything toanybody who doesn't camp, but
those of you who do get this towhere it's really
well-maintained and everyonemoves through fast and you're
not going to sit in line whileyou're waiting because there's
only one dump station orwhatever, that would be awesome,
blossom, if there were, let'ssay, vaulted toilets.
These are toilets that areouthouses but they're really
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well maintained and clean.
You know, that would be lovelythere are different levels could
be provided so that the privatelandowner could afford to take
care of the land and rather thanyou having to buy licenses or
pay any other kind of governmentfees, it would all work itself
out.
But the point is we've raisedtrillions of dollars and we
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could pay off the national debt.
Then, once the national debtand by the way I understand I'm
simplifying this we could sellrights to the oil drillers.
There's all kinds of ways to dothis.
Now, one last concern and thenI'm going to wrap things up is
that if the government goes tosell it off, they're going to
fuck it up because of cronyism.
The government fucks upeverything.
So how could we sell this offand do it at a relatively fair,
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open way, with open bidding andnot insider trading to people
who were given the best chunksof beautiful land to their
buddies that they're selling off?
And the answer is by the wayand I'm not talking about
selling off Yellowstone there'splenty of land that isn't
national monument quality,believe me.
So, anyway, what was I talkingabout?
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So how would we do that?
And the answer is I'm not quitesure.
I'll be honest with you, but I'ma strategic thinker and a
visionary thinker and I know I'mnot the only one and I think
that if we got together withpeople in private commercial and
land sales in the United Statesthe big private concerns that
do this and ask them to handleit on behalf of the government
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in the fairest way possible andcome up with a set of guidelines
that maintains fairness withsome oversight, in other words,
privatize the sale and do it insuch a way and I'm not quite
sure how to do it, to be honest,but I don't have to be that guy
, because this is a country fullof talented people the big key
is going to be not to let theCongress sell it off.
Don't let the Congress sell itoff, okay.
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Don't let the politicians sellit off.
This is why Joe Biden is worth$40 million.
This is why Nancy Pelosi isworth more.
Okay, this is how people whohad no money to start with got
rich in politics cronyism.
We can't have that, okay.
So the answer to that is have itbe done by private sale and
commission.
So people should be allowed tomake money on the transaction,
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as long as it's open andtransparent.
So if there's, let's say, a 1%commission attached with a
massive land sale to XYZNational Real Estate Company
that knows what it's doing andit brings in a good bidder and
yada, yada, yada.
It's all transparent andthere's no cronies.
They deserve their 1%, orwhatever the number might be.
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By the way, that's probably toobig a number.
I mean, we're talking enormoussales.
This isn't like the 10% theytake to sell the lot at the end
of the street.
We're not talking about lotshere.
We're talking about millions ofacres, millions of acres, but
it would pay off the debt and itwould be a way for us to get
out of this mess without havingto either have a hyperinflation
or a complete collapse.
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I am not optimistic, by the way,that this is going to be an
outcome.
I'm simply stating it as apossibility of what could be if
we were anti-political insteadof Democrats and Republicans and
have our heads so far up ourrear ends with our special
interests and needing to win andambitions, and we've gotten to
a point where lying has becomean expected practice in politics
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.
It's crazy.
It's a crazy world we live inand we need to change it, and
that's all I'm going to talkabout today.
Have a wonderful rest of yourWednesday.
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I think you'll enjoy it.
Anyway, pick it up.
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God bless you, god bless yourfamily and God bless America.
Talk to you on Friday.
Happy Wednesday, dudes and dudettes.
It's me, herbie K, your hosthere on A Radical Reset, the
home of antipolitism.
If you're interested inantipolitism, as I open each
show, I will remind you.
You can pick up a copy of ARadical Reset, the Manifesto of
Antipolitism, on Amazon ineither Kindle, paperback or
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hardcover versions.
Simplified, and there's apodcast about it earlier.
You can find it if you scrolldown through the episodes where
I do a quick overview of it.
But Simplified, it is a republicby merit-based lottery, open to
everyone.
Open to everyone in the sensethat if you do something of
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merit you'll be in the lottery.
And from that we convertCongress, we take all the money
out of politics, there are nopolitical campaigns and we
eliminate most of the corruption.
People will always find a wayto be corrupt.
We live in a real world, not animaginary world, but mostly all
of the corruption and we getrid of special interests, except
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to inform us there's nothingwrong with someone coming to a
congressman's office and sayingthis is why you should support
this and here's the reasons why.
And yada, yada, yada.
That's fine.
It's another thing altogetherif they hold a $25,000 plate
fundraiser for the next campaign.
That's going to cost hundredsof millions of dollars in
presidential terms anyway.
So, to make a long story short,it is a near perfect republic.
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Now, I consciously don't usethe word democracy, because
democracy is mob rule and alwaysends in tyranny, and I'm trying
to avoid that in our ownculture, unlike all the other
democracies that have tried thisexperiment before us and failed
, even in current times, if youthink about it.
So let's, today, talk about thelooming sword of Damocles
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hanging over our economy.
I want to talk about thenational debt.
Now.
It's one of those things whereit's talked about so much.
I think people are so numb toit and so disconnected from what
it really means and what itcould mean to them that it loses
its meaning, and I completelyunderstand that.
I mean it's a mind-bogglingnumber, you know.
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Today I don't know what it is.
It could be I think it's 36 or37 trillion.
We're adding several trillion ayear, and they're in this whole
big beautiful bill debatethingy that Trump has to have
done to preserve tax cuts.
I understand all the things.
I don't mean to make light ofall those things.
Those are all important issues,but here's where I'm coming
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from.
One day we're going to have tosettle this bill and there is
only going to be three ways.
There are only three ways tosettle it.
We can either pay the bill andwe don't have the $38 extra
trillion laying around in cashto do that, and the only way to
have that extra $38 trillionaround to do that would be to do
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the second way, which is themost likely way, which is
politicians will choose toinflate our way out of it or try
to, and it'll end in ahyperinflation.
But when it does, you knowit'll anyway.
We all know what comes of that.
Hitler's come from, things likethat, but that's always what
happens at the end of one ofthese democracies.
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I hate to tell you, but that isthe historic norm.
The politicians will choose toinflate because it calls, at
least in the very short term.
It calls for no sacrifice, andif you don't have to sacrifice,
that's what politicians like,because their number one goal in
life is getting reelected.
So that would be the secondchoice.
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And the third choice is which iswhat it will ultimately come to
if we choose the second one iscollapse, and collapse it does
happen.
This is where the whole worldhas to do a giant reset.
Poverty becomes endemic.
People who thought they weresafe are soon going to learn the
Buddhist maxim that control isa delusion and safety is an
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illusion.
Safety is an illusion andcontrol is a illusion and
control is a delusion.
Okay, everyone got that.
Nobody is really safe.
You know, when you build awhole life, it can be wiped away
in just a minute.
Hold on, I have to take a sipof water.
Okay, here we go.
Also, the idea that you havecontrol of anything beyond your
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bowels, and then only to acertain age, is just an illusion
.
Okay, things happen all thetime.
That's why we constantlycomplicate our lives.
That's why I've said many, many,many times that I, as also a
semi-follower, at least ofTaoism the philosophy, not the
religion believe that, as LaoTzu says, it's better to do
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nothing than to be busy doingnothing.
Or, in other words, 999.999times out of 1,000, the best
thing to do about anything isnothing.
By the way, I've given thisadvice to people many, many
times over the years and almostinvariably later they'll tell me
they wish they took it, becausethey also almost invariably
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never take it.
Funny how people ask for advice.
I don't offer advice unlessasked for.
Funny to me how many people askfor advice with no intention of
taking it, it's just funny.
They're really looking to haveechoed back to them what they
think they already know.
But if someone says to them,well, here's what you really
should do, they never do it Notever.
This is why I could never be,for example, a psychologist or
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psychiatrist.
It would drive me crazy.
As soon as that came out of mymouth, that sounded kind of
funny.
Anyway, let's talk about what wecan really do, what we could do
about the debt if, magically,magically, we became rational.
Now, I do not hold out highhopes for this.
My hope is that things becomereally, really Okay, let me back
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this up.
I was about to go right into it, but before I do, I want to
make this very clear, okay, andI want to set a few parameters
and guidelines in this.
We're human beings.
We don't live in a perfectworld or on a perfect planet or
in a perfect universe other thanyou know.
Somehow the math perfectlyworks out, but beyond that,
that's it.
There is no perfection.
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Therefore, particularly becausewe are human beings, things
will never go as planned.
You know, men plan and Godlaughs.
So you know, we do a lot ofthings and we also have the
perception that the people aboveus somehow know more than we do
.
You know, the whole idea ofanti-politism came to me when it
dawned on me that I could walkthrough any crowd of average
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people in the United States andin any area I could go to I
don't know a rodeo okay, wherethere's going to be, you know
thousands of people.
Or a NASCAR race or a, if youprefer, an Indy race I don't
know what I'm.
You know a baseball game, afootball game.
I could go to any largegathering of people in a broad
section of the economy okay, andpoint at 535 people randomly,
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and they would have an IQ atleast equal to the existing
Congress.
That there's really nothingspecial about any of these
people.
The perception that any of themknow something that you don't
know is, I think it has to dowith our need for kingship.
I think that's why in the Biblethey talk about kings, not
presidents.
I think we have a need tobelieve that someone above us is
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somehow divinely inspired toknow more than we do, or at
least not divinely inspired hasaccess to information and a
know-how that we somehow do notpossess, and I think we'd all be
terrified to understand howlittle different really the
private conversations are fromthe public conversations of the
people we hope are smarter inprivate.
If you know what I mean, and Iknow that you do so when I go
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into what I'm about to talkabout, I'm about to lay out a
parameter of how it could happen, and it's going to sound like
it could sound like I'm wishingthis upon us.
You know, sometimes the choicesare not between good or bad.
The choices are not betweengood or bad, but between bad and
worse, and that's what we'relooking at here.
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We are nominally in debt morethan any other country has ever
been in the history of the wholeworld.
We owe more money thananybody's ever owed to anybody
ever, at any time, anywhere.
Any way, no one has ever donewhat we've done, which is built
an entire lifestyle on debt, andincreasingly so with every
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passing day, where thegovernment becomes increasingly
a provider of everything, downto happiness, or at least it
tries to, and inevitably screwsit all up.
But we spend and borrowenormous amounts of money to do
this.
And here we are, so we're notgoing to go through a rehash of
how we got ourselves in debt.
Another sip of water, becausefor some reason I'm dry.
I live in Arizona, guys.
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The humidity today is 8%, 8.
That's not 18 or 80.
8.
So it gets a little dry hereOkay, here we go.
I little dry here Okay, here wego.
I grew up in Miami, where it wasexactly the opposite.
This time of year, I'd betaking a shower with my clothes
on, whether I wanted to or not.
Okay, so, anyway, where was I?
So the scenario I'm going tolay out is we're going to have a
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disaster one way or the other.
Now, look, I'm not wishing thisupon us.
I don't hope it happens.
It's just going to happen, andI know that there are plenty of
doomsdayers who think it's goingto be the breakdown of all
society.
And it could be, but I findthat unlikely.
Okay, people tend to closeranks when things turn to
absolute mud, but when we closeranks, we're going to look for a
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new leader.
And is that leader going tolead us into a Hitlerian vision
of disaster, as is so often thecase, not necessarily with the
whole Holocaust that goes withit, but basically a dictatorship
of another idiot who claims toknow more than we do, but
doesn't?
Everybody is about the same,guys.
The only difference between theperson running for office and
you is the level of shame thatthey can tolerate and what
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they're willing to do for career.
That's why I want to changepolitics from a career to a duty
, so that the people who getinvolved in are there because
they have a duty to serve theircommunity and their country, as
opposed to an ambition, andbecause every time they look in
the mirror they see thepresident of the United States,
which is, believe me, the caseof the vast majority of
politicians.
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And you know that's true.
You just know it instinctivelywhen I say it.
I guess it would be impossibleto fact check it, but common
sense would tell you that's thecase.
They're constantly looking toclimb the ladder, climb the
ladder and, in their heart ofhearts, the ultimate height of
the ladder.
So anyway, particularly at thenational level, at the state
level, it's a different story.
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The things I talk about in anantipolitism, under an
anti-political national regime,so to speak, national system, it
would be optional.
If the states wanted to do ananti-political model at the
state level or hold elections.
Some states with lightpopulations, like Wyoming, for
example, our least populousstate, would really.
I think they're our leastpopulous state.
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It's either them or Alaska, isit?
I don't know.
Anyway, they may want to justgo with elections, because
they're really.
It would be hard to set up abig enough random pool to do it
right.
Whatever, you know, it's up tothe state, because states don't
have that one damning abilitythat the federal government has,
which is the print money, whichis really what's got us into
all this trouble to begin with.
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So here we are.
So we're going to have a badtime.
I don't want to call it arecession or a depression or a
collapse.
Let's just say we're going togo through some really hard
times economically andpolitically, because the two
things cannot be extricated fromeach other.
But this is a cold, hard fact.
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We are going to go through somehard times, and when we do it's
, how are we going to cope withit?
How are we going to come out ofit?
I spoke a little bit in the lastpodcast about how a lot of
individuals are indebted, withstudent loan, debt of various
kinds.
But that's just a small part ofthe disaster that we're all in.
We're all a part of this.
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There's no getting out of it.
Rich to poor, there's nogetting around this.
We are about to have thepoo-poo hit the fan and a lot of
people who think they're poornow are going to find out what
poverty really is.
And that's a terrible thing andI'm not wishing it upon anybody
, but that's what's going tohappen, and it's because of all
of this debt and the bill isgoing to come due.
So here is the way that,potentially, an anti-political
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government would handle it.
So let's say, in this scenario,there's a collapse and let's
say that anti-politicism catcheson and the movement catches on
and yada, yada, or one thingleads to another, and the there
is an anti, anti.
It's not going to be apolitical party, but there are a
majority of people in congressand the president him or herself
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, who who now have bought intothe concept and you know what
are we going to do?
And we now have an and theyreset this.
I mean, this is really like afar-out scenario.
But but what would ananti-political government?
But what would ananti-political government do?
What would an anti-politicalpresident do?
It's much more likely, now thatI'm sitting here gaming this in
my head, it's very unlikelywe're going to elect an
anti-political Congress to dothis.
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It is far more likely we electa single individual, male or
female doesn't matter.
Why do I keep saying that?
I'm so trained?
Are you trained, like I am, toalways like disclaim everything
you say?
God forbid you should be takenwrong.
Maybe it's just me.
I, you know.
It's like, if I notice, theother day I was in a meeting
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with a woman and, frankly, shewalked into the room and she
smelled delightful.
I mean, there was no other wayto put it, but I didn't say it
because there's no way to say itwithout sounding creepy.
You know, I don't know.
So I just kept my mouth shut.
I don't know if that's a goodor a bad thing, and I had no
interest in this womanromantically.
I just thought she smelledgreat, and you know people who
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do that.
That's not an accident and Ithought I'd compliment her.
But then I thought, no, Ibetter not compliment her
because it'll just make me seemlike an old creeper.
So, anyway, we're going to gothrough a crash.
I don't even know why I wentinto that digression.
And so here's the scenario,however it plays out.
There's the anti-politicalpresident declares an emergency.
He gets an enablement act fromCongress to allow him or I'm
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going to keep using him, I'mjust going to use him as a
generic.
It's far more likely it's goingto be a him than a her.
Anyway, look at history.
The majority of leadership,particularly transformational
leadership, is virtually alwaysmale.
So, for good or for bad.
By the way, before feministsjump in and say well, yeah,
transformational can be very bad, it can be other.
Yeah, I know, I know, believeme, I know, but OK, so, so he's,
he goes to Congress.
It's an emergency, the economyis melting down.
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He's got to act.
He doesn't have time to futzaround with, you know, earmarks
and crap like that.
The country is screaming,people are losing their homes
left and right.
Unemployment is way high, it's,you know.
People are really wondering ifthey're going to have enough
food to eat.
What does that president?
And that's how bad it couldeasily be.
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What does that president do?
Well, the president, first ofall goes to Congress and gets
what's called an enablement act.
This recently happened, roughlyspeaking.
Again, this can be good or bad.
Hitler got an enablement act too, but Javier Millet got one in
Argentina, essentially the samething that allowed him he was
the only libertarian in thewhole country, but it allowed
him, as a libertarian, tobasically use his executive
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power.
And then, because his programshave been wildly successful, and
inflation has, by the way, ifyou want to see what libertarian
governance looks like, which isjust another word for common
sense, that's all libertarian is.
It just gets the government outof the way and lets people do
what they want to do.
It's been wildly successful inArgentina Since the day this man
took office.
He's the most popularpolitician in the world and the
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guy is the only libertarian inthe world elected to office.
It's amazing to me.
So, in fact, since libertarianand anti-political are the same
thing, it's going to be the sameprogram from each.
What would that libertarianslash, anti-political president
do?
They would get an enablementact so they could act with
executive authority, essentiallyas a dictator, frankly, with
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some strict boundaries, called,you know, the Bill of Rights.
You know the dictator can'tviolate the Bill of Rights, he
can't violate the Constitution,but he can rule by fiat.
Essentially, his signatureexecutive orders take on the
power of law and judges, whetherthey have the right or not,
cannot stop.
This is an emergency.
This is no time to play around.
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We don't want to go todictatorship, so we're going to
give somebody a temporary, verylimited dictatorship to fix this
thing.
By the way, the term dictatorwas not always a bad word Hitler
made it a bad word was notalways a bad word.
Hitler made it a bad word, butprior to that it was simply.
The Romans used it fairlyregularly.
The idea was that you wouldbring in a dictator for a year
or so and they would fixwhatever the horrible mess was
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and go away.
The most famous Roman dictatorwas Cincinnatus, who the city of
Cincinnati is named after.
And Cincinnatus was greatbecause he was made dictator
twice and both times it had todo with being invaded by
barbarians.
He was a great general.
He's retired.
Everybody loved him.
He was kind of the Colin Powellmixed with Alexander the Great
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of his day, and he went out andput down the barbarian invasions
and got it done.
But rather than stay in officeand enrich himself, which would
be traditional in the Romantradition and spend the rest of
his dictatorship, now that hesolved the problem, putting a
little money in his pocket bothtimes the first time, I think it
took him three weeks, thesecond time, I think it took him
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six weeks and he just resignedand went home, which is my idea
of what the ideal public servantis, an actual public servant.
So anyway, a lot of that.
Cincinn Cincinnati, by the waywas my role model in a lot of
ways in creating what I thoughtan anti-political government
should look like, and he was myhero's the wrong word, but he
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was definitely the person that Iwas thinking about as I was
modeling how to create agovernment of little
Cincinnatuses, and to do thatyou've got to get ambition out
of the way.
Cincinnatus was not.
His guiding vision in life wasbasically to retire to his farm,
not take over the RomanRepublic, which he easily could
have done and did not.
Okay, later someone came alongnamed Julius Caesar and turned
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dictatorship into a dirty word,and you know then, yada, yada,
yada, hitler, and blah, blah,blah, and there's anyway.
It's such a mixed history.
I'm going yada, yada, yada overmillennia, which is ridiculous,
but again, this is a shortpodcast, so anyway I'm going.
What would I do Now that we'veset all this parameter in
judgments?
I'm imagining myself in thisrole only because I'm a lunatic.
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What would the temporarilyempowered president do,
regardless of who it is?
And the answer is he or shewould sell off public lands.
That's the obvious solution tothis disaster, without
collapsing the whole country.
Now, the minute that you say thefederal government of the
United States owns so much land.
There's never been anythinglike it in history.
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It's the last vestige of truefreedom in this country.
So I say this very guardingly,but it's really our only
alternative to complete disaster.
We own somewhere.
We don't really know how much,but we own somewhere like maybe
$400 or $500 trillion worth ofland, we being the federal
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government, thereby the peopleof the United States, own about
that much.
It's hard to say.
Maybe more.
It could be a quadrilliondollars worth of it.
Anyway, we've got plenty ofland to sell off if we want to
Vast vast tracks.
Now, easy for me to say, andthose of you who are listening
to me and living in the city,this is going to sound like a
pretty good plan.
But for those of us and Iinclude myself in this, in this
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us who love the outdoors and whocamp and fish and hunt, and
regularly and I live in the West, where most of the land is
owned by the federal government,it's called BLM land, which is
not Black Lives Matter, it'sBureau of Land Management, and
you can camp on BLM land anyplace you feel like for free.
The only rule is you have tomove every two weeks.
I don't know why that rule.
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I guess it's to preventsquatters, I guess.
But anyway, I've camped on BLMland tons of times and it's
awesome and you're not alone outthere.
There are other people with thesame idea but you can get
pretty alone pretty fast ifthat's what you feel like and
there are no facilities,generally speaking, and you're
just out there on your own.
You gotta bring in your own.
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Whatever you bring in, you packout.
You don't leave trash, youleave it the way you found it.
The vast majority of campersand people that enjoy the
outdoors are practicallyreligious about this.
You meet the real bums everynow and then, but the vast
majority of people heck.
If I see trash when I'm out, Ipick it up, even though it's not
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my trash.
That's kind of how it is withpeople who enjoy the outdoors.
So when I say sell it off, thatbrings in visions of a country
turned into Disneyland.
I get it where you have to payfor access to what is now free
and then they turn it into awonderland.
I think that and that is a riskTo say that's not a real risk
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to say that someone won't try,that would be well, would be
dishonest.
But the truth of the matter iswe're talking millions upon
millions, upon millions, uponmillions of acres of land.
We're talking something like80% of the Western United States
, and there's plenty of it onthe East Coast too, just more
interspersed and other placesyou know, throughout the more
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populated areas.
But having said all that, youknow what would happen if
someone well, they, you know noone has that much money to buy
all that land, to turn it allinto Disneyland.
And the fact of the matter island.
If you're buying land asprivate property, there are a
few things that are going to betrue.
The first thing is you're goingto take better care of it than
the government does, which is tosay, not take care of it at all
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because it's your land.
So if the underbrush needs, youknow, removal or an invasive
species you know someone somehowgot into your property is
becoming a problem you'll dealwith it quickly, okay, as
opposed to just letting it getway out of control.
Letting it get way out ofcontrol.
The second thing is, speaking asa guy that camps all the time
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on BLM land, I don't know that Iwould have a problem paying a
small fee for access to, like Imean most of it is not going to
get sold anyway.
Let's get real.
There isn't that much money inthe world.
Even if we sold all our acreagefor a dollar an acre, there's
just not enough money in theworld to buy all of it.
Anyway, it would easily pay offour national debt.
So the bottom line is we'reonly talking about a part of
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this federal land being sold offbecause it's just so vast.
The federal government owns mostof the state of Alaska.
I'll tell you, what's reallyinteresting about Alaska is if
you were to somehow take Alaskaand place it in the center of
the United States, it wouldtouch every border North, south,
it would touch both oceans ifyou placed it in the center of
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the United States.
That's how big Alaska is, andmost of that is federal land.
No one's going to buy it all up.
So I think this is a fear, butnot necessarily a founded fear.
Will Disney lands of sortsspring up?
Yeah, but as long, you know, ina free market, if the public
wants it and someone meets thatneed.
So what I can see, for example,in a choice area you know, like
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where there's a phenomenal riverrunning through it, with
world-class trout fishing, let'ssay and since it's private land
I won't need a fishing license,I can just go fishing to pay a
little access fee in return formaintaining the river on the
part of the private owner.
Perhaps if it's a wild riveryou wouldn't stock it that would
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ruin it.
But if it's a semi-urbanlocation or close to an urban
area, you know those things areroutinely stocked.
A private owner would just do abetter job of it.
And if there was a nominal feeto go on and use that, I don't
see that that's a big deal.
And the fee of course has to benominal because it's a free
market.
If you charge too much, peoplewon't come.
It's as simple as that.
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No one has to set prices.
The free market sets pricesbetter than anyone can, because
people will only pay whatthey're willing to pay and
therefore, therefore, a sellercan only sell at a price that
people are willing to pay andprovide benefits.
So, for example, I as a guy thatone of the things I'm going to
be doing in the very near futureis I want to buy a travel
trailer and use it for camping.
There's a specialty kind oftrailer for what's called
boondocking.
Well, boondocking is campingwithout facilities.
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But look, if there was, forexample, easy access dump
stations to get rid of your.
You know this is going to be alittle oversharing, but when you
have this kind of an RV, youhave a water tank for your
drinking water and your you knowshower water.
Then you have a gray tank whichis where the water goes from,
like your dishes and your sinkand all that kind of stuff that.
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Or when you brush your teeth,all the stuff down the sink goes
into the gray water tank, butthe toilet water goes into
what's called the black watertank and that you know these
tanks have to be dumped.
You just can't go runningaround with a tank full of poop
and those are called dumpstations and you know to have
nice dump stations, maybemultiple dump stations in an
easy location that you can pullthrough.
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None of this means anything toanybody who doesn't camp, but
those of you who do get this towhere it's really
well-maintained and everyonemoves through fast and you're
not going to sit in line whileyou're waiting because there's
only one dump station orwhatever, that would be awesome,
blossom, if there were, let'ssay, vaulted toilets.
These are toilets that areouthouses but they're really
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well maintained and clean.
You know, that would be lovelythere are different levels could
be provided so that the privatelandowner could afford to take
care of the land and rather thanyou having to buy licenses or
pay any other kind of governmentfees, it would all work itself
out.
But the point is we've raisedtrillions of dollars and we
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could pay off the national debt.
Then, once the national debtand by the way I understand I'm
simplifying this we could sellrights to the oil drillers.
There's all kinds of ways to dothis.
Now, one last concern and thenI'm going to wrap things up is
that if the government goes tosell it off, they're going to
fuck it up because of cronyism.
The government fucks upeverything.
So how could we sell this offand do it at a relatively fair,
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open way, with open bidding andnot insider trading to people
who were given the best chunksof beautiful land to their
buddies that they're selling off?
And the answer is by the wayand I'm not talking about
selling off Yellowstone there'splenty of land that isn't
national monument quality,believe me.
So, anyway, what was I talkingabout?
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So how would we do that?
And the answer is I'm not quitesure.
I'll be honest with you, but I'ma strategic thinker and a
visionary thinker and I know I'mnot the only one and I think
that if we got together withpeople in private commercial and
land sales in the United Statesthe big private concerns that
do this and ask them to handleit on behalf of the government
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in the fairest way possible andcome up with a set of guidelines
that maintains fairness withsome oversight, in other words,
privatize the sale and do it insuch a way and I'm not quite
sure how to do it, to be honest,but I don't have to be that guy
, because this is a country fullof talented people the big key
is going to be not to let theCongress sell it off.
Don't let the Congress sell itoff, okay.
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Don't let the politicians sellit off.
This is why Joe Biden is worth$40 million.
This is why Nancy Pelosi isworth more.
Okay, this is how people whohad no money to start with got
rich in politics cronyism.
We can't have that, okay.
So the answer to that is have itbe done by private sale and
commission.
So people should be allowed tomake money on the transaction,
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as long as it's open andtransparent.
So if there's, let's say, a 1%commission attached with a
massive land sale to XYZNational Real Estate Company
that knows what it's doing andit brings in a good bidder and
yada, yada, yada.
It's all transparent andthere's no cronies.
They deserve their 1%, orwhatever the number might be.
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By the way, that's probably toobig a number.
I mean, we're talking enormoussales.
This isn't like the 10% theytake to sell the lot at the end
of the street.
We're not talking about lotshere.
We're talking about millions ofacres, millions of acres, but
it would pay off the debt and itwould be a way for us to get
out of this mess without havingto either have a hyperinflation
or a complete collapse.
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I am not optimistic, by the way,that this is going to be an
outcome.
I'm simply stating it as apossibility of what could be if
we were anti-political insteadof Democrats and Republicans and
have our heads so far up ourrear ends with our special
interests and needing to win andambitions, and we've gotten to
a point where lying has becomean expected practice in politics
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.
It's crazy.
It's a crazy world we live inand we need to change it, and
that's all I'm going to talkabout today.
Have a wonderful rest of yourWednesday.
Don't forget to go over toAmazon and pick up your copy of
A Radical Reset the Manifesto ofAntipolitism, which is, I think
, a pretty good book.
I think you'll enjoy it.
Anyway, pick it up.
It's in Kindle or paperback orhardcover.
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That would be lovely.
It's also a way to support thispodcast, which would be lovely
as well.
Don't forget to share this withyour friends.
You know the drill Yada, yada,yada.
God bless you, god bless yourfamily and God bless America.
Talk to you on Friday.
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