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What happens when we build a political system that rewards sociopathic behavior? In this thought-provoking episode, I dive deep into the psychological makeup of our elected officials and why our current political structure attracts people who prioritize winning above all else.

Drawing from personal experiences in prison, I explore the crucial differences between sociopaths and psychopaths - a distinction that helps explain why our Congress operates the way it does. Sociopaths, who reinvent themselves daily with a "that was yesterday, this is today" mentality, thrive in our political environment precisely because they don't feel the weight of guilt or shame that would crush most normal, decent people.

The brutal reality is that good people avoid running for office because they value privacy and fear character assassination. Everyone has aspects of their past they'd prefer remain private, and our system ensures these private matters become public spectacles during campaigns. The result? A Congress dominated by lawyers and career politicians who care more about winning than serving.

My solution is "antipolitism" - replacing elections with random selection from qualified citizens. This lottery-based approach would transform political ambition into civic duty, bringing ordinary achieved Americans into government service for single terms without the character assassination that accompanies campaigns.

As I prepare to run for Arizona's 4th Congressional District, I reflect on how my own past mistakes have paradoxically positioned me well for this mission. When you've already experienced public shame and worked through it, you become bulletproof to the typical political attacks that deter good people from service.

Ready to explore a radical alternative to our broken political system? Listen now, and then grab your copy of "A Radical Reset: The Manifesto of Antipolitism" to learn more about how we can transform American governance.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Happy Friday everybody.
It's me, herbie K, your hosthere at A Radical Reset, the
home of antipolitism.
We're going to talk a littlebit about that today, but before
I go on, if you'd like to pickup the manifesto of antipolitism
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(00:23):
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okay, oh, and don't forget toshare this podcast.
Yada, yada, yada.
You know the rest.
Let's talk a little bit todayabout winning and about why

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winning and winning aloneattracts sociopaths.
So our congress, our congress,is made up primarily of
sociopaths.
Now, this has not all alwaysbeen true, and I want to be
clear about what I mean, aboutwhat is a sociopath versus a
psychopath, versus, you know, anormal human being, normal, your

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average everyday person, hasgot, you know, a much more
healthy view of the world.
First of all, when I was inprison, I had a lot of
experience with sociopaths andpsychopaths, so I got I got a
really a lot of up close andpersonal things.
In fact, I used to worry.
I'll be honest with you.
I used to literally spend hoursworrying that I was a sociopath
.
You know, at my nadir, you know, when I had committed the crime

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that sent me to prison and Ihad realized what I had done and
I was absolutely wracked withguilt, I went, I literally
sought out psychologists andcounselors to help me because I
was afraid I was a sociopath.
You know why would I dosomething like this?
How could I hurt 35 people,which are the number of my
victims, 35 people who werefriends of mine, who trusted me,

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and I should say former friends.
They're not my friends now, andnot because I don't want them
to be, but because they hate me,and I don't blame them, I'd
hate me too.
And how could I do this to them?
And I felt I was just gnawed byguilt and by overwhelming
feelings of remorse and sadnessand replaying in my head of all
the things I did, and I just wasbeating the living crap out of

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myself.
And I went to see the shrinksand, as I said, and anyway, one
guy really summed it up to meand got my head out of it, which
was really great.
It kind of um cleared the wayfor me to think a little further
and get into things like, forexample, anti politism.
And I was in prison and thinkabout other things than the

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sheer weight of guilt that wasall over me.
And the bottom line was heturned to me and he said you're
not a sociopath, but you mightbe an idiot.
This is what he's saying to me.
And I said how can that be?
And he said because if you werea sociopath you wouldn't care.
And that I found an incrediblyrelieving thing the very fact

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that to this day, I have to behonest with you.
I hate to start just digressingwhen I say things like I have to
be honest with you in allhonesty, that's an expression,
but shouldn't we always behonest?
Shouldn't we always be talkingto each other honestly?
I don't know, I don't knowwhere that expression comes from
.
It's like some of the timewhere we're not talking honestly

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, although all people lie and soon and so forth.
But I try to be honest all thetime and in all honesty, as I
said, I have to tell you that Isink back into the remorse and
guilt all the time about whathappened and when I find myself
slipping back there I have toliterally out loud, tell myself
to stop it, because there's noproductive purpose to regrets.

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Regrets are a sucker's game, youknow.
The problem with regrets iswhen you regret something, you
replay it in your head.
But the problem is it's a gamethat's already been played, so
every time you replay it in yourhead you're going to come back
to the same place of remorse andsadness if you're not a
sociopath and that reallyaccomplishes nothing but to hold

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you back from whateverpotential you might have down
the road.
So I have come to understandthat the remorse, the sadness
that I feel is something that Iembrace.
I'll never lose it because I amdeeply, deeply saddened by what
I did.
There's just no other way forme to put it.
But and I just can't well, Idon't want to shake that feeling
.
It's reaffirming to me that myhead's on straight, but at the

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same time I no longer allowmyself the luxury of regret.
It sends you back into a, aScylla and Charybdis, sucking
you underneath the waves, downto the depths of depression and
non-productivity.
But anyway, let's talk about um, let's continue this discussion
that we're on.
So I said earlier that everybodyin Congress was a sociopath,

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and that's a very broadgeneralization.
There are a few exceptions.
There are people who run foroffice who are genuinely,
genuinely interested in publicservice.
I would say, for example, Ithink Rand Paul, the senator
from Kentucky, is a terrific guy, also from Kentucky which makes

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me want to visit Kentucky, bythe way is Thomas Massey.
And Thomas Massey is alibertarian in every way and
even though he ran as aRepublican because he wanted to
win, he's a libertarian.
And the bottom line is I don'tthink he's a sociopath either.
He takes very principledpositions all the time and there

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are a few people like that inCongress, but they can be
counted on one hand.
So, out of the you know, 535between the Senate and the House
of Representatives, people inCongress, you know, maybe five
of them aren't sociopaths.
The rest are Now sociopaths.
I learned in prison aredifferent than psychopaths.
And again, I'm not apsychiatrist, but I'm just going

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to give you the Herbiedifference between a sociopath
and a psychopath.
And what is a sociopath?
A sociopath, to my view, issomebody who reinvents himself
every day.
Okay.
So in other words, if asociopath screws you over and
then you come to them the nextday and they ask you for another
favor.
You look at them like they'reout of their mind because they

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just screwed you over.
Their reaction is something tothe effect of well, that was
yesterday and this is today.
You know you find this a lotwith.
For example, if you have anaddict in your family who looks
you straight in the eye andtells you what you want to hear,
to get what they want, that's asociopath.
And if you say to them but youlied to me yesterday, they'll
say that was yesterday, but Ineed this today, and that's a

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very sociopathic response.
A sociopath is a person who isself-centered to the point of
delusion and to where they feelno guilt.
Okay, guilt is not somethingthat weighs on sociopaths
particularly.
They do something and theyjustify it, and then that was
yesterday and this is today.
That's a sociopath, and we havelots of sociopaths in Congress.

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What we don't have a lot of,thank God, are psychopaths.
A psychopath is a person.
A sociopath at least canidentify with you as a human
being.
Sociopaths can love.
Sociopaths can have families.
Sociopaths are capable ofhaving at least a rudimentary
relationship.
A psychopath is not.

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A psychopath views you the sameway you look at hamburger, you
know, as virtually an inanimateobject to be eaten or used.
You know what I mean, and Imean that, of course,
metaphorically.
But a psychopathic murdererdoesn't in any way identify with

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the pain of the victim, where asociopath will, but then will
shrug it off as something thathad to be done.
And that was yesterday and thisis today.
There's the difference.
And so most of your sociopathictypes are not potentially
murderous, where psychopaths areall potentially murderous,
although there are plenty ofpsychopaths and there are people
that know they're psychopathsthat are functional within

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society because they have ahandle on their psychopathy.
And again, I'm not apsychiatrist or a psychologist,
so I'm not going to go into thedepths of the possibilities of
what your future might be ifyou're a sociopath or a
psychopath.
I'm saying in this podcast we'dall be better off if we did not
have a Congress full ofsociopaths.
And the reason that we have aCongress full of sociopaths is

(08:37):
simply because it is sopersonally destructive to run
for office today.
So, for example, I am going torun for office next year.
I'm going to run for Congress,and in fact I just had a meeting
about that two days ago and I'mfiling my letter of intent with
the state as we speak.
I'm preparing it and I am goingto start circulating my

(08:59):
petitions to get on the ballotas a libertarian for Arizona's
4th Congressional District I'mgoing to—the incumbent in that
district, by the way just as aside note is a Democrat.
His name is Greg Stanton.
At one point he was the mayorof Phoenix.
He's a very typical zeropolitician and a good example of
what I'm talking about today,and I don't mean to pick on Greg

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Stanton.
I didn't pick to run inCongressional District 4 because
I have a thing for Greg Stanton, but because I think there's a
possibility to reform theDemocratic Party into something
viable from the ashes ofdestruction and progressivism
that they've put themselves into.
But I've discussed that before.
I'm not going to rehash ittoday.
But what I am going to say is Iknow that when I run for office

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I am going to be slandered.
You know everything in mybackground that I share it all
with you freely is going to bebrought up, and the only reason
that I'm not afraid of it, andthe thing that makes me kind of
ideal for the mission that I'veset out for myself, which is to
start a movement ofanti-politicism to save our
republic, is because myreputation is so destroyed by my

(10:05):
own actions that it doesn'treally matter what anybody says
about me.
It's a unique position to be in.
It's kind of like I don't know.
If you've ever liked, I'll giveyou a good example.
My sons and I were on a fishingtrip in Miami Beach one day and
we were fishing with a guide.
His name was Alan Sherman.
It's neither here nor there.

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We were fishing on his bay boatand we were out in Biscayne Bay
fishing and we were near whatwas called the Venetian Causeway
, which is a causeway, a seriesof bridges that connects Miami
Beach to Miami.
Miami Beach is an island,essentially off Miami, okay, or
it might be a peninsula, I thinkit does connect at the top, but
anyway, neither here nor there.

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So we were fishing.
Anyway, there was a downpour.
Miami Beach gets theseincredible downpours on sunny
days.
We called them sun showers.
Growing up, you could bestanding on the you know like on
your block, and you could seethe rain pouring so hard you
can't see the houses through theother side of the rain that's
pouring and you could bestanding in sunlight.

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And that's what happened.
We were fishing on the boat andwe got caught in a sun shower
and it just poured on us and ithappened so fast that we didn't
have time to get on our frogtogs.
Frog togs are a brand name ofjust anti-rain gear that
fishermen carry with them Atleast in Miami they do because
of these sun showers.
Anyway, we didn't get it on intime and we got so drenched it

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started to get funny and we satthere in the boat.
First we were all scrambling toget on our frog togs.
Then we all kind of gave up atthe same time and just sat in
the boat and laughed as the rainand you have to I'm sure those
of you who live in climateswhere you get this kind of rain
understands it was just adownpour.
I mean, we were maybe 50 yardsfrom the causeway itself and for

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a few minutes there youcouldn't see the causeway for
the force of the rain.
That's how heavy the rain wasand we got so wet that it became
funny and we couldn't.
Basically, you can't get anywetter, and that's kind of how I
am using that metaphoricallywith my own reputation.
My own reputation is sodestroyed because of my own
actions that there's nothingelse that any, that A there's

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nothing else to come out and B,nothing anybody's going to say
is going to insult me any morethan it had in the past, and
I've long since come to gripswith it.
And since my family is fullyaware of my ugly past, I have no
secrets to keep.
So I'm in the unique positionof not having secrets, and
already being exposed kind ofmakes me bulletproof for this

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sort of thing at this stage inmy life.
So that's why I well, that'snot why, but that's one of the
reasons that I at least lookedat or considered, or one of the
factors I considered when Idecided to run for office, or
one of the factors I consideredwhen I decided to run for office
.
So the bottom line here is thatfor most people, they have not
destroyed their lives and commitcrimes, they have not gone to

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prison.
Most decent people don't do thestupid things and the immoral
things and the completebreakdown of character things
that I did in order to putmyself in that position, thank
goodness, and because of thatthey don't want to run for
office.
You know, we all have secrets.
All of us have secrets, and I'mnot interested in your secrets.

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Mine are out in the open, butI'm, you know, as a healthy
person I'm not really interestedin the private.
I don't see what one thing hasto do with another.
I understand that behind closeddoors, many, many people, if
not most people, are kind offreaky.
We all have our little kinks ofwhat we would call freakiness.
It might be sexual freakiness,it might be how you relax, you

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might be a functional addict oralcoholic.
We don't need to know that, aslong as you're functional.
I'm just saying that there aresecrets that people maybe it's a
mistake, an affair you had inthe past and you put it behind
you and you never it was.
You know there are two kinds ofpeople that cheat on their
spouses.
There are chronic cheaters andthere are whoops cheaters.

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And a chronic cheater is aperson who cannot help
themselves.
They're constantly, constantly,and this is male or female.
I'm not drawing a line to onegender or the other, but I've
met plenty of predatory,sexually predatory men and women
both, who are constantlycheating on their spouses.
They're just driven to it as acompulsion, and compulsive
behavior is very tough.
We all have compulsions and ifyou have a sexual compulsion or

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any other compulsion, you cantell yourself you're not going
to do it, but you're going to doit.
Okay, that's what a compulsionis.
It's really hard to fight.
But then there's the mostcommon kind of cheater, which is
the whoops cheater.
You know you're away on abusiness trip.
You're in the lounge of thehotel, you have a couple of
drinks, you get a littleliquored up.
A beautiful woman walks in.

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Maybe she's sexually aggressive.
One thing leads to another,yada, yada, yada.
You have a fling in the hotel,but now you are completely
weighed down in guilt and youjust don't know what to do with
yourself.
And this is something.
Now you're smart enough.
I might get a slight digressionhere.
If this is you and you havemade a mistake like this and
you're wrestling with yourself,should I tell my spouse?
The answer is no, you shouldnot tell your spouse.

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I'm going to advocate this is asecret to be kept, and this is
why I say look, don't destroyyour marriage for nothing.
If it was a genuine mistake,then put it behind you.
If you go confess it when therewas literally no harm, no foul
except in your head, you're notdoing that for their benefit,
for your wife's benefit, or yourspouse's benefits, or your

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children's.
You're doing that for you.
You're trying to get the guiltoff of your shoulders.
Well, I got news for you,buckaroo.
Suck it up and take the guilt.
And, by the way, most of us do.
Most of us understand this.
We so cherish our relationshipand we feel so bad over fudging
it up that we keep this a secret.
We bury it in our past.
We swear to ourselves, and keepthis swear, that we're not

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going to do it again.
But this is just a typicalsecret that stays a secret.
Or maybe a period in your lifethat you went through where you
did a lot of bad things for asmall period of time and then
you pulled out of it, whateverit might be.
Maybe you were inappropriate atsome point in your life with a
coworker.
Might be.
Maybe you were inappropriate atsome point in your life with a
coworker.
Maybe you were I don't know.
Maybe you know.
I don't know what you couldhave done.
There are a million.
There are a million things.

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If I sit here and try to thinkof all the things that we can
all do to screw our lives up,but the truth is we've all done
them.
All of us have things in ourbackgrounds that we would rather
not talk about.
If you're saying to yourselfright now, I don't have anything
in my background I don't wantto talk about.
Well, I hate to say this.
You're an incredibly boringperson.
You know it's our mistakes thatgive us our color and our

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flavor, so to speak.
There's nothing wrong withmaking mistakes.
Good decisions come fromexperience.
But experience comes from baddecisions, and that comes from
making mistakes.
So I'm not, but most peopledon't want them dragged out into
.
Don't run for office, and thebest people some of the best

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people are the ones with thebiggest secrets to hide, because
they've taken so many scars intheir lives that they've learned
lessons.
I don't consider myselfparticularly unusual.
In other words, you know that Iwent to prison, I did this bad
thing and I'm on a path toredemption.
I'm not the only person I'veever met that's on a path to
redemption as a result of theiractions.
You know's say that you'd liketo do something good, you'd like

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to achieve something positivefor your fellow man before your
time here on this planet is outand you'd like to go out and do
something.
But then you look at yourspouse and your children and you
think to yourself about thethings, the thing or things
plural in most cases it's pluralthat you've done over the years
.
The longer you've lived, themore likely it's going to be
plural that you're going to havea number of things that you

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don't want to have come out, andso you don't run for office and
we suffer for it.
Because the best people nobodyshould be expecting perfection.
So the idea behind anti-politismis, of course, that we select
based on merit, on a lottery, ona random basis.
In other words, you are calledto duty and since you can only

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serve one term of whateveroffice it is, you're called to
serve in and that you're done,you're out of the pool forever.
You'll never serve anotherpolitical or public office.
We convert what was an ambitioninto a duty of service, and I
think that changes not only thenature of our Congress to become
much, much better, but it alsocreates I believe it will create

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a culture of civic duty, prideand learning.
In other words, I can see where, for example in the public
schools and in the privateschools as well, the curriculum
would be altered.
Since, you know, growing up.
People used to say you couldgrow up to be president one day.
That's an old, you know axiomor an old saying.
But the truth is, unless you'reborn into certain circumstances

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and have the ability to accesscertain colleges and you know
money and so on and so forth.
With very rare exceptions,you're not going to be president
, but in antipolitism you couldbe for real.
You could be called theCongress, you could be called
the Senate, you could be calledto serve as president or vice
president of the United States.
And since that is a realpossibility, if you live a life

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of achievement, it would thenmotivate you, even unconsciously
, to want to know as much as youcan about how your country
truly works, so that if, in fact, you are called to duty, um,
you are prepared to do that duty, so that and I think that's a
very positive what you knowthomas soul says there are no

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solutions, only trade-offs.
One of the trade-offs ofanti-politism is it is a
positive tradeoff.
We're going to go from peoplein an attitude of civic
responsibility or civicknowledge at least I'm not sure
of the word I want to use, butwill become pervasive culturally
, because we all know those ofus who work hard enough that we

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achieve a level that we might bein the lottery ourselves.
That is to say, we're in thetop third of income earners,
we're over the age of 35 and wehaven't committed a crime.
That's pretty much it.
But that you've climbed theladder to achieve that success,
you know you're exactly who wewant in Congress.
But that means you've alsoprobably done some crappy things

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, and that's why anti-politicismmakes for a much better
Congress.
Because you're not going to gothrough a political campaign,
there's not going to be anyopposition research, there won't
be anybody digging into yourbackground.
Now I address that, by the way,in the book A Radical Reset by.
I think that we need tocriminalize or at least make the
slander and libel statutes very.

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I think that we need tocriminalize or at least make the
slander and libel statutes very, very, very strict, because if
a person does agree to serve inCongress, is selected by lottery
, and they do go in and they dohave a secret.
Unless that secret is criminal,it's nobody's business.
And you know there's a socialmedia industry of personal
destruction, a social mediaindustry of personal destruction
.
So even though there won't bepolitical parties and even

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though there won't be elections,there will still be individual
representatives that will dothings that other people won't
like.
Obviously, no one's going toagree on everything you do and
consequently, someone who'sreally a nasty bastard might go
out there and dig up whatever itis that you did and smear you
with it.
So I propose that we pass a lawthat doesn't and I realize that
this treads a line on the FirstAmendment, so this will have to

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be very carefully written butbasically criminalizes
slandering someone serving,who's been selected in the
public sphere, unless they'vebeen indicted by a law
enforcement authority, by agrand jury, or they've been
arrested, unless it's an actualfact that there is a criminal

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charge that's been placedagainst them, independently of
their service.
It should be against the law towell, not against the law, and
I know the slippery slope here,but it should be.
Let's just say this it shouldbe a criminal offense to destroy
someone's reputation withoutgrounds.
You're going to have to be ableto produce the grounds why you

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said what you said.
Gossip and malicious gossipjust to destroy that's fair game
.
When people are pursuing officefor career and ambition which is
why we get all sociopaths,because they know it's coming
it's an expectation and it'sbuilt into the system.
But when someone is draftedthat is not built to their
expectations.
So we must protect them frompersonal destruction.

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Again, it'll have to be a verycarefully written law, but it
needs to be there because wecan't make people's lives hurt
just because they serve.
It should be out of thequestion.
You know, if we discover thatsomebody's anyway, I've beaten
this horse to death.
You get my drift.
Now it's extremely importantfor our future that we get away

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from these ambitious sociopaths,because when you're an
ambitious sociopath which meansthat you reinvent yourself you
don't care what you didyesterday.
That means you can do thingslike spend completely
unjustifiable amounts of money,because that's not your money
and it helps you further yourcareer and that's all you're
caring about is winning, andwhen all of your focus is on

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winning and winning above allelse, it it clouds your every
judgment, and winning is such anempty thing.
Anyway, I don't think peoplereally realize that.
I saw an interview that wentviral on the internet that
really sparked this in my mind.
It was done by scotty scheffler.
Um, those of you who don'tfollow golf, scotty scheffler.
Scheffler is the number onerated golfer in the world Right

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now.
As we're speaking, the BritishOpen is well.
It's not being played right nowbecause of the time difference.
It's over for the day, but atthe crack of dawn this morning I
got up early and was watchingthe British Open on Peacock,
which actually has the GolfChannel live watching the early
rounds.
The finals will be this weekend.
Of course that'll be availableon regular broadcast TV.

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But anyway, scheffler is onceagain in the top 10 and moving
to win another major and he'swon 16 tournaments and he's won,
I think, three or four majorsand he's just a phenomenal guy.
But he was talking aboutwinning and he said you know,
it's really something that he'slearned in his life is that he's
fought so hard to win.
And then, after the win, youknow you get three minutes of
fun and then it's over.
And if you don't have familyand you don't have things that

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are more important to you thanwinning, your life is a very
empty thing.
And I think for the majority ofthese congresspeople, winning
is so important to them thatthey don't think past the
winning.
They don't think about what arethey going to do with it.
There's no sense of service,there's no sense of duty, it's
all about the winning.
And once they won, becausethey've sacrificed their family
lives, because everything in theworld that they've ever done is

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going to come out, so, even ifthey stay together, their
marriages are generally ruined.
I would evidence the Bill andHillary Clinton marriage.
I mean, he's once again in thenews.
Turns out that he was hangingout with Jeffrey Epstein.
A lot Talk about a sociopath,by the way.
Talk about a sociopath.
And Barack Obama, the livingembodiment of sociopathy.

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But anyway, these people willgo ahead and destroy their
marriages as we speak.
The Obamas, I think.
Slight another digression Ipredict that the Obamas will
become the first presidentialcouple post-presidency to
divorce.
They clearly hate each other.
You know before, the or shehates him.
He's a sociopath.

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He doesn't care one way or theother, but she hates him.
It's fairly obvious.
I had read in various sourcesprior to him being elected back
in 2008, that their marriage wason the rocks then and she
agreed to stay in, and only forhis presidential run.
And now that it's over, you cansee that she's spreading her
own wings, whether you like itor not, and it's clear that

(25:53):
there's trouble in paradise.
And why is there trouble inparadise?
Because it was the marriage ofconvenience to begin with and
his ambition overwhelmedeverything else.
And he's a sociopath and hedestroyed his marriage and she
stuck with him because she'sprobably a sociopath too, who
enjoys the perks of power asmuch as he does, because birds
of a feather flock together, asthey say.

(26:14):
But is this who we want servingus in Congress?
Is that what we want?
Sociopaths and mostly lawyers,I mean.
The other thing you know aboutthe Congress is about 60% of it
are attorneys.
Well, guys, what is an attorney?
But a paid verbal prostitute,okay, or written prostitute?
An attorney is someone you hireto advocate for you, whether

(26:37):
they agree with you or not.
An attorney, a good attorney,will take your case and will
advocate for you, regardless ofwhat stupid goddamn thing you've
done, whether it's civil orcriminal, and they'll advocate
for you.
If they're a good attorney,they'll advocate for you
strenuously and that's animportant job.
But the problem is it doesn'tbelong in Congress, because that
is verbal prostitution.

(26:58):
You're basically selling yourabilities to argue for somebody
who's done something that isrepugnant in many, many cases.
So you do it.
You're doing it for money,ambition, power and to win.
You know I won that case.
I win, I win.
Winning is great, I love to win, I'm competitive, but winning
lasts just a couple of secondsand the next thing you know
you're on to the next.

(27:19):
You know it's over and thesepeople live hollow lives and
they're representing us inCongress, and they all come from
the same legal background of,you know, intellectual
prostitution.
That's what it is.
It's intellectual prostitution,and so this is what we're left
with, and the reasonanti-politism is so superior is

(27:39):
that we're not going todefinitely have 60 lawyers.
We're going to have thepercentage of lawyers in
congress that make up thecountry, which I think is around
one percent or so of people inthis country, or attorneys, one
or two percent, something likethat, and so, um, that's how
many, just by the sheer luck of,or the laws of randomness, if
there is such a law, but, youknow, by sheer random selection,
that's about all we'll get.

(28:00):
And good, I think that we'veproven that we need something
other than lawyers in Congresswriting, you know, 5,000 pages.
That's the other thing.
Lawyers, there's never too manywords for a lawyer.
Anyway, I think I pretty muchwrapped it up today, so let me
try to sum up this, thissprawling conversation we've had
, and then we'll move on to theweekend and have a good time.

(28:23):
Winning is not everything.
We don't want sociopaths incongress.
We don't want people who are soshameless that that they'll
they'll destroy their familiesin order to win and to achieve
power, which is an aphrodisiacand leads to all kinds of
troubles.
Instead, let's becomeanti-political.
Let's become anti-politics,where we believe that service

(28:45):
should be a duty, and a duty tobe honored and cherished, and
then done one and done, and thenback to your life.
That's what anti-politicism isall about.
That's why it's smart, that'swhy it should be the future,
that's why it should be whatreplaces this democracy that
we've managed to set up, whichis just a code name for mob rule

(29:06):
.
Thank you very much for joiningme today.
It's been a pleasure, as always.
Don't forget to pick up yourcopy of A Radical Reset, the
Manifesto of Antipolitism, onAmazon.
Don't forget to share this withyour friends, and God bless you
, god bless your family and Godbless America.
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