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Happy day everybody.
It's me, herbie K, your hosttoday on the Spiritual Agnostic.
Our subject matter today isgoing to be about the ethics of
sex.
Now, this is a very, veryimportant subject.
It's an adult subject, but thisis not going to be an explicit
episode in the sense that when Isay I'm going to talk about sex
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not like Andrew Tate okay, I'mnot going to go in, we're not
going to talk about any, what'sthe word?
We're not going to getanatomical, I'm not going to
slide to degeneracy, we're goingto talk about sex.
And the voice I'm going to usetoday you know of the four
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pillars of stoicism that Ifollow.
Wisdom is a big part of it.
I think I'm wise enough to knowthat the people I'm really
targeting this at, which wouldbe Gen Alpha, I think, is what
we call them now the kids thatare still in high school.
I'd love to be talking.
If my dream of dreams would be,I would go on a national tour
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and use my public speakingability I'm a good public
speaker.
Just trust me for this, andthat's as much as we're going to
say about it but go out andspeak to high school and even
junior high school classes ofyoung adolescents about the
ethics of sex and how importantit is to have an adult
discussion that an adolescentcan understand and to be
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straightforward about it.
And we're not talking about howto have babies.
We're not going to get.
That's the explicit part, and weall know what sex is.
We're talking about where sexlies in the great list of
imperatives that drive society,and I would say sex is at the
very top.
It's number one, I think, atthe root.
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I'm going from the top to thebottom, gone from the top of the
tree to the root, but you getmy drift At the root of
everything is our sex drive.
Men have to have a certainwoman, women have to have a
certain man.
It creates all kind of intrigue, jealousies, wars have been
many, many wars have been foughtover it, legendary wars, wars
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that may or may not have takenplace.
Was there a Helen of Troy?
I don't know, but I know forsure that it's.
You know that it's an epicstory about jealousy and how far
people will go, and I meanthere's more to it than that.
But you get my drift and youknow there's well.
I'm rereading Anna Kareninaright now and it's, by the way,
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if not the greatest book everwritten.
It's hard to say what is thegreatest, but anyways.
But like all things Russian,it's dark.
Okay, I don't want to get.
I don't want to go down thatrabbit hole.
The point is, sex is at the rootof everything and to the degree
that we have an adultdiscussion about it, what's
happened in our society?
Sex if you don't view sex in avirtuous and ethical way, then
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it will easily slide intodegeneracy, and that's where
religion and philosophy come in.
Religion and philosophy are thegreat breaks on allowing our
sex drive to send us all intobehaving like fools.
You know, dogs in heat, ormales chasing dogs in heat, or
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whatever.
However, anyway, you get.
You get the metaphor.
So is that a metaphor, ananalogy?
I don't know, anyway, so solet's talk about it.
So, at the root of our societyis the breakdown of the nuclear
family.
The nuclear family forms as aresult of sex.
So so, to begin this discussion, I'm going to start and explain
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how sex has been driven fromsomething special and something
to be protected and something tobe pursued, but only in a
certain way and with certainboundaries, to the extent that
we've thrown that out, which tosay we've totally thrown that
out, that the degradation anddegeneracy of our society and
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it's it's slide into um decaythat we've certainly begun, and
and accelerating as a result oftechnology, you know, evolving
much faster than we can.
This can all get away from usvery, very fast society.
I think if we've learnedanything, through the COVID
shutdowns, for example, is howeasily tyranny can be imposed
and how quickly things can fallapart and how people can accept
things, how manias take hold.
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One of the things that'shappened since COVID is that
we've had a tendency, not just atendency, it's crazy manias.
The difference between a maniaand a fad is that you can't talk
about a mania.
The people in a mania whobelieve in absolutely view you
as evil to oppose.
The best example of that wouldbe, aside from the COVID
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lockdowns and all the people itcreated, who had to walk around
and still are walking around inpublic with face masks.
That's a mania, my friends.
There's no, there's nothingfactual behind any of that
nonsense, as we have all nowdiscovered.
But the transgender thing,that's a mania.
You can't question it.
It's somehow gone from thisrare thing that does exist and
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is primarily a mental illness,and almost always among men, in
a tiny, tiny, tiny, tinyfraction of society to this, you
know, it's like two out ofthree children in a family,
sometimes three.
I mean things that arestatistically impossible, but if
you even question it with thesepeople, they're nuts and that
means that they are part of amania, or another word for it
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could be a cult.
When you have a leader of amania, you have a cult.
That's the difference between amania and a cult.
A mania doesn't have a leader,it's just a general madness that
takes over.
There are many leaders in amania.
So, you know, david Koreshmight've been leading a cult Not
that he deserved to die for it,by the way, or all those people
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.
Anyway, I'm not going down thatrabbit hole either.
But at the same time,transgenderism, or whatever you
want to call it, the madnessthat is even believing there are
more than two genders, letalone children, can make
lifelong.
Anyway, we all know the bulletpoints.
This isn't about that, but itall really comes down to sex.
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It is not a coincidence that,for example, in a mania like the
transgender movement, that mostof the children that are that
fall prey to it fall into twocategories either very, very
young, where they're nutcasemothers, almost always without a
father present and if thefather is present, he is a beta
male and not an alpha male.
100% of the time in their, intheir crazy Munchausen's, by
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proxy driven lunacy, get theirchildren to believe this
nonsense.
Because children are malleable.
Or young adolescents who areprimarily unattractive in a
classical sense, heavy kids, andmostly girls, but boys too, the
heavy kids, the unattractivekids, the pimply and heavy kids,
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the kids who are just not gonnagrow up to be supermodels,
because most of us don't, butthey're very, very susceptible
to this kind of a mania and itcan't be questioned.
Okay, so let's get back to thecentral subject, which is the
ethics of sex and what'shappening in our society.
I only like to do about a halfhour podcast, but let's start at
where it began to break down.
And it began to break down in1961 with the introduction of
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the birth control pill.
That was the year that itbecame widely available in the
United States and the sexualrevolution began.
Prior to 1961, virginity wasprotected by women, not by the
state, but by women, becausethey knew they could get
pregnant.
There was no reliable form ofbirth control.
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You can say condoms arereliable, but only if you use
them, and there's more than afew men who carry them around in
their wallets to this day, whomake little circles for how long
they've been in the same spotIn the throes of passion.
It's a lot to expect anadolescent, especially, to stop
and say hold on.
While I put this on, so manyboys are so surprised.
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It's even happening in thefirst place and so many girls
are, you know, don't want to bereminded of where they're going,
or, you know, whatever it mightbe, whatever the mindset of an
adolescent is, I'm trying toremember what mine was.
I think it was shocked that Iwas getting lucky and, by the
way, I'm a hypocrite.
Everything that I'm going totell you that's virtuous.
I have violated.
Let's just get that out of theway.
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I mean I'm not.
My prison term is not a secret,and neither is this.
I was a violator of sexualdecency, which is why I'm a
divorced man today.
But we'll get into that as wego.
This might be a two-episode.
So I think today, in fact, themore I think about it, that's
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where we're going to go.
I think today we're going totalk about the roots of the
problem and on Wednesday I'lltalk about where it developed
from there and what we can doabout it.
So let's, just today, talkabout the roots of the problem.
And the root of the problemlies first of all in the
introduction of the birthcontrol allowing women to have
control of their own sex lives.
And let's face it, women lovesex just as much as men, or I
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should say, girls love sex asmuch as boys.
Boys, it's all they think about.
It's dominant.
You sit there in your classroomas a boy, praying that you don't
get called on to go up to.
This is when you're adolescent,to go up to the board to do
something because you've beenstaring at Mary Lynn in the
front row and you're you knowyou're having a natural reaction
.
That's the kind of thing thatgoes on every day, even as I'm
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saying this, in classroomsacross America.
It doesn't matter whatgeneration we are, we've all
been through it and girls getjust as turned on as boys.
But in the past they were very,very careful about their
virginity and it became part ofthe culture and the reason that
the word bastard carried anegative connotation of a child,
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because born out of wedlock wasa disgrace and that comes from
the protection of the virginity,so that it's to facilitate the
family bond that ultimatelyproduce healthy offspring, which
is all of our biologicalimperatives.
All of us are here for reallyonly two reasons.
If you want to get right downto the meaning of life, it has
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only two reasons.
One is to replace yourself, andhopefully with someone as good
or better than you, and secondly, to have a little fun with the
time you have left.
We are the only species thatI'm aware of that outlives our
sexual cycle.
So when you know, believe me,at my age I don't think about
sex every day.
I'm not going to overshare,that's the truth.
I doubt women my age do too.
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Some do, some don't.
That's hard to make broadgeneralizations, but I think
regardless it's not the mostimportant thing.
So at this stage of my life,besides doing stuff like this,
which I consider fun, my wholelife is at this point.
Until it's out of time, I don'tdo anything anymore that I
don't enjoy doing.
But you know, when your sexdrive is active and you're in
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your teens and as a woman, youunderstand instinctively that
men do not want to.
I'm going to use a metaphor andI don't like it, but it's the
first one that pops into my head.
A man does not want to plowground that's already been
seeded.
Okay, it's.
I know that's politicallyincorrect, I know well, that's
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an old fashioned term.
I know I'm just way outside thebounds of what might be
considered offensive by a lot ofpeople, male and female, but it
is what it is.
The fact of the matter is, mento this day would prefer to
marry a virgin who is highlysexually experienced, which I
know is.
It's the irony of it.
But anyway, and I mean, ifyou've ever asked yourself, why
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are millions and billions ofdollars spent on Viagra and
similar erectile dysfunctiondrugs For centuries?
How were babies produced beforeerectile dysfunction?
How was it that I had fourchildren before there were
erectile dysfunction drugs?
How was it that we all wereable?
You know my generation, theboomers and back we were all
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able to procreate at a muchhigher rate than we are today.
You know we're not replacingourselves right now, which is
another discussion for anotherpodcast, possibly down the road,
although at this moment that'snot on my mind.
But you know, how is it?
And the answer is really,really, really simple.
Once women became sexuallyexperienced, they were open to
sexual comparison, and once theywere open to sexual comparison,
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men, whether it was voiced,openly or not, by the women.
And no matter what a woman saysabout you know the whole
discussion of even having asexual history, it's not that it
makes the women dirty, it'sthat it completely emasculates
the men.
Not every man is completelysexually confident.
This is why there's so manyerectile dysfunction drugs
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because women are having sex asmuch as men used to, instead of
having one, maybe two if she was, you know, made a mistake in
high school in her whole life,and so you know sex for the
average woman in those days waslike pizza.
You know it's always good.
You know even a frozen pizza isgood as opposed to no pizza.
It's not as great as ahand-tossed Italian beautiful,
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you know, wood-fired pizza, butyou know it's good.
It's not great.
And good is good if you'venever had great.
But when a woman's been outthere and she's had a lot of
different pizza and men knowthat they need Viagra, Okay,
this is not good to theunderpinnings, to the foundation
of the family structure.
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So the birth control pillopened the floodgates and then,
when the behavior is allowed,the justification will follow.
So once women realize they canhave sex as much as they want
and not worry about gettingpregnant.
Venereal diseases is anotherdiscussion.
They've been around since thedawn of time.
Mankind has always dealt withthem to some extent.
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We know how to cure most ofthem, and the ones we don't know
how to cure, we know how todeal with.
So we're not going to go downthat discussion.
It's pregnancy that's the greatthreat and that pregnancy can
now be 100% avoided.
Plus, abortion is legal in moststates.
I think right now it's in 37states, lest I looked.
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I think abortion is moreavailable now than before Roe v
Wade was overturned.
I may be wrong about that, butif I'm wrong, it's not by very
much statistically.
So the point of the matter iswomen have a lot of options that
they didn't have prior to 1961,including abortion.
Roe v Wade 1971, 72, and thatchanged the whole dynamic of
abortion in the country.
And even though it's beenoverturned, the seed is planted.
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Abortion is not going away inmost states and if you live in a
state that doesn't haveabortion, there's nothing
stopping you from jumping inyour car.
No one's throwing up stateborders.
So I'm not going to go downthat discussion road about the
ethics of that in this podcast.
I've touched it before, I'lltouch it again, but not today.
The point is, women can have alot of sex subsequent to the
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birth control pill and did.
That's what the sexualrevolution was all about.
I was in it.
I was a teenager in the late60s, early 70s and you know it
was a party.
We had a lot of sex and theworst thing we had it was like
the good old days.
All you had to worry about wassyphilis and gonorrhea, and both
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of them were easily curable.
Okay, the second thing thathappened besides that was the
advent of no-fault divorce.
So at this very same time, once, women became sexually able to
have sex with anybody theywanted and be very sexually, um,
and be exposed.
And you know people who thinkyou can separate sex from love
or just have never been in loveI mean I'm not talking about.
There are different kinds oflove.
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The love you have for yourfamily is very your children and
things, of course, naturally,unless you're a warped, sicko,
pervert, degenerate, it's notsexual.
That's a different feelingaltogether.
The love I have for my dog andcat are different, but I'm
talking about.
The love you have for a mate isalways sexual.
It's always there.
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And if it isn't there, thingsevolve.
And when no-fault divorce camearound, what it did is throw out
the understanding that themoment you have a child, it's
not about you anymore and that'san incredibly important ethical
distinction that society has tofind a way back to.
I don't like you anymore andyou know we're incompatible and
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you're out.
And then the children.
You tell yourself lots of lies,like you know, the children
would be better off withoutseeing us fight all the time.
There have been a lot ofstudies about that.
Not true?
It's not true.
It's not even fractionally true.
The children are better offwith two parents who are married
to each other, screaming ateach other every single day,
than being in a broken home.
They just are.
The same is true if dad's alousy dad and he's always gone
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and he's a workaholic and he'snever present.
And the mom thinks, you know,uses this as an excuse because
she's being left lonely.
Most of the time.
When women cheat, for example,they cheat because they're being
ignored.
So the husband?
That's not always true.
It's a broad generalization.
I understand, but stay with me.
So the women you know, someonetells them that they're
intractable.
When their husband hasn't formonths, if not years, women fall
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into an affair.
Yada, yada yada.
They talk themselves intobelieving the kids will be
happier to see they're in ahealthy relationship and, you
know, with a father that's goingto, even the stepfather is
going to be home every day, andall these other lies.
They're all lies, okay, withthe exception, the notable
exception, because I grew up inone of a literally physically
abusive household, where thefather or the mother is sexually
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or physically abusing thechildren, and the kids are
better off in a two-parentfamily, regardless, and that's
why there used to be, it used tobe hard to get a divorce,
because it was all about thechildren and not all about you
or me.
And I, again, I'm a hypocrite.
This is, you know, gooddecisions come from experience,
but experience comes from baddecisions, and in my case at
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least, there's no getting aroundthat.
And so I'm just telling youthat by making divorce easy, we
reinforced the floodgates thatwere opened by the birth control
pill.
And then came the final nail inthe coffin modern feminism.
I don't want to call it radicalfeminism, or you know?
Look a woman biologically, andevery woman listening to me can
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tell me.
I know I'm going to get emailsabout this.
As sure as God made littlegreen apples, but I'm just going
to go ahead and let it out.
Most women would be happy,happier, because we have.
When you look at the amount ofdepressants being poured down
the throats of women acrossAmerica men too, but women being
poured down the throats ofwomen across America, men too,
but women there's an explosionof female depression.
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Okay, that's a fact.
Feel free to fact check me.
And what's behind all of it iswomen fighting their natural
biological urges and functions,their reason for being here, to
replace themselves.
And within the nuclear family,the same family that exists in a
pack of wolves.
In a sense, this is the waynature intended.
It is women nurture, menprotect.
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Okay, it's really, reallysimple.
Among us primates, womennurture, men hunt and protect.
And that's where the nuclearfamily really comes from.
And then religion andphilosophy have come since to
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explain our feelings and what'sgood and what's bad and all the
explanations for it.
But in the end, it's all aboutwhat's good for raising the
children.
I'm not talking about, you know,I don't want to go down the
radical.
I'm just talking about whatmost people might consider even
normal feminism.
But to put a career as a highpriority for most women over
having children.
Now a lot of women who are 30and over are finding out that
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it's not so easy to havechildren over 30 and that
biologically, things start todecay and the chances become
less and less and less.
And look, the fact of thematter is, the younger you are
when you have a child, thebetter off you are as a woman,
both in terms of being safe inchildbirth, although with modern
medicine thank God, living inthe United States as we do, or
any other modernEnglish-speaking country that's
listening to me, as you'relistening to this you have
access to excellent medicine.
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You're not going to probablydie in childbirth like they used
to, but at the very same time,having healthy children and
having an easy childbirth andnot having your body destroyed
by it is easier the younger youare.
So the fact of the matter is theold model that used to be the
standard, which is boy meetsgirl in high school.
Boy and girls go steady.
Boy and girl graduate from highschool.
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If boy is going on the tradecareer path, boy and girl get
married right then and there, ifboy and girl are going on the
college path, they go to college.
They stay together at the samecollege.
They don't live together, bythe way, and then after college
or maybe in their senior year,they get married.
But in every case, the momentthe knot is tied, the girl gets
pregnant.
And that's why so many womenbecame teachers in the old days,
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because it was a great career.
They could work until they gotpregnant, they could go out of
it, they could come back to it,they could substitute.
It had a lot of flexibilitybuilt into it.
I don't pretend to be an experton modern teaching and what's
become of it through bureaucracy, but that's how it was and it
was better.
Career should be secondary towomen, not primary.
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And to the extent that womenhave made career, primary is to
the extent women are unhappy.
Now, I say that as a broadgeneralization, recognizing
there are an awful lot of womenwho, when they sit at a table
talking to you, don't feel thisway.
They have much more androgynousfeelings.
They're not so much feminine ormasculine.
It's just, for whatever reason,not important to them.
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They're perfectly healthypeople and that's great and
they're happy.
See, the fact is those peopleare happy already.
This doesn't have to beexplained to them.
I'm talking about the vastmajority of women who come out
of high school and are expected,even if they're not on the
college track, to go to workwhen they really should be.
In the old days it used to bethe primary degree a girl went
to college for, for example, wasto get her MRS.
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And that was, you know, notjust a joke.
It was smart because it followsthe biological imperative.
Think of how it was Okay.
Now that I've talked about thethree causes, I'm going to sum
up the episode.
We're going to get into what todo about it in a modern context
in the next episode, but here'show it should be.
It doesn't have to be likeBetty Crocker, but here's how it
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should be.
Boy meets girl in high schooland goes through everything I've
already said.
I'm not going to restate it.
That's the nature of things.
Primary mission of women in lifetake care of the children.
There is no contradictingrealistic study or psychological
professional in the world whowill contradict that women are
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better off with women.
Children, I'm sorry, are betteroff, and women are better off
as stay-at-home moms, withstay-at-home moms, with dad
going to work in a traditionalrole, just like the
hunter-gatherers did at the verybeginning.
And to the extent that we havedisrupted that and to the extent
that we have made sex meannothing, and we have.
There's nothing special,there's nothing.
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Everybody is used by the time.
There's no new cars.
You know the new car, smell thenew car, feel the new, and then
there's no attempt to preservethat, because there's always
going to be another one.
We have to bring back theessential specialness of sex,
not special as to how it feels,but to where it is in society,
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as a part of our hierarchy and apart of our happiness.
That's all I'm going to sharewith you for today.
I hope I didn't lose you in thatdiscussion.
It was rambling.
I know We'll come back onWednesday and talk about the
next part of this discussion.
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