Abducted From The Playground: The Kidnapping of Megan Garner

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
In the spring of nineteen ninety one, a three year
old is playing with older siblings and cousins while her
mom and aunt are inside. They wander from a grassy
area to the playground, and the preschooler is conscious of
the rules her mom has set forth for her, especially
don't cross the parking lot on your own. Seemingly, this

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separates her from her older playmates temporarily, and in the
short amount of times she's unattended on the apartment complex playground,
she vanishes. At first, her mom considers that she may
have wandered off, but fear sets in after she can't
locate her. Since then, there has not been a single
trace of the young girl, and her case is cold

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to this day, thirty four years later. I'm your host, Megan,
and each week on a Simpler Time True Crime, I
cover older solved cases and challenge the idea that a
simpler time means a safer time. This week, I'm bringing
to you the unsolved kidnapping of Megngarner. About ninety miles

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southeast of Dallas, Texas, is the city of Tyler, Texas.
The vibe is a mix of small town charm and
steadily expanding suburban life, tree lined neighborhoods, a lively downtown
with breweries and boutiques, and the ever busy South Broadway
corridor lined with shopping and restaurants. While it keeps its

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traditional Southern roots, Tyler today feels more like a vibrant
crossroads park, college town, part medical hub, part old East
Texas community with a dash of modern growth. It's known
as the Rose Capital of America for its thriving rose
industry and the annual festival that brings the community together.

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In nineteen ninety one, the population was smaller than it
is now, with about eighty thousand residents. Life revolved around family,
church and Friday night high school football, while Broadway Square mall,
local diners, and barbecue joints were the go to gathering spots.
The University of Texas at Tyler and Tyler Junior College
added a touch of campus life, but overall the city

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carried a slower, more traditional rhythm. Tyler, Texas and Texas overall,
had a higher crime rate comparative to many other cities
and states in the United States and the nineties, but overall,
people felt mostly safe in Tyler, and as such, it
wasn't uncommon for kids to go outside and play without
constant adult supervision. The older kids kept an eye on

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the little kids, and they just came in and out
when they needed something. Life was like this for three
year old Megan Garner and her older brother and sister,
six year old chance An eight year old Faalin. They
lived with their mother, Melanie Joe Garner. Not much is
known about Megan's father, other than that he and Melanie

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Joe were no longer together and that he lived out
of state. The single mother and her children lived in
the Casa Grande apartment complex now known as the Ranch
Apartment Homes at forty four hundred Polexi Drive in Tyler. Now,
this is a pretty big apartment complex. It has several
buildings and amenities, and it's adjacent to another large apartment

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complex that's now called the Evergreen Apartments, And on the
other side of it is another apartment complex that's a
little bit smaller, but still your standard kind of complex
you might picture. So it's sandwiched in an area of
a lot of rental units, and it had one of
those typical apartment complex playgrounds situated in a little courtyard area.

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Just as if were warning the layout of this apartment
complex is kind of tricky and it's central to the
discussion of this case. But I took some screenshots of
the Google maps and did my best to label it
for you guys, So go check it out at Simpler
Time Crime pod on Instagram. The location itself was great
because Melanie's sister lived in the same apartment complex and

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she had kids of her own as well, Megan's cousins,
Nicky aged eight and Van aged four. This allowed the
cousins to have a special bond and play and grow
up together. On March twenty seventh, nineteen ninety one, it
was spring break for Tyler's school district. The weather was
sunny and beautiful, and many of the kids in the

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complex had cabin fever and wanted to get outside and play.
Melanie described this to the local papers and said that
there were a lot of kids playing outside and a
lot of adults outside as well. Melanie's sister came over
to watch a movie that morning. At around nine thirty.
While they watched their movie, the kids went outside to play.

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At just three foot two and thirty pounds, little Megan
had shoulder length, straight brown hair, big brown eyes, and
was wearing a quintessential early nineties kid's outfit, a long
sleeved pink, blue and green T shirt with horizontal stripes,
pink corduroy pants, blue socks, and blue and white rebox
sneakers with blue trim. Melanie Joe and her sister had

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instructed the kids to stay in the courtyard playground area.
The information about the events that morning, they vary from
source to source, not in ways that are huge. I
think they are those little details that can get convoluted
and lost in the telephone game. But it does sound
like at times some of the older kids wanted to
explore some of the other areas outside of that courtyard area.

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And that's courtyard is where the playground was located. Megan
was cautious and a rule follower, and I knew she
wasn't supposed to cross the parking lot by herself. As
I said before, I'll have some pictures of the area
on the Instagram, but I'll do my best to describe
it here as well. We don't know the exact building
Megan lived in, but we know it was apartment twenty

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sixty five. The complex has a whole new name in
numerical address pattern now, so I couldn't determine the exact building,
but based on some of the statements from Megan's mother,
Melanie Joe to local reporters at the time, I narrawted
down to three likely buildings. From those buildings, you'd have
to cross a small parking lot area that leads to

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another set of buildings across the way, and behind those
is the courtyard and playground area. If you're facing the
playground and your back is to the part of the
complex that Megan would have lived in, there are more
buildings to the left of the playground with their own
parking lot, and that lat is next to Piluxi Drive,
which is a busier four lane road at least it

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is now. This means that if someone was there with
ill intent and say watching the children, they would have
had ample places to park a vehicle and have a
quick getaway to a busy road. It also has really
close access to a busy highway called Loop three twenty three.
It's just what it sounds like, a loop, and it's
a state highway loop that spans approximately nineteen point seven

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miles completely circling the city of Tyler in Smith County,
and it connects with various major routes, including US two
seventy one, US sixty nine, State Highway thirty one, State
Highway sixty four, State Highway one ten, and State Highway
one fifty five. It just shows you this complex was
right nearby, this conduit to all these major routes that

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could then take you out of the area quickly. Now,
like a typical preschooler, Megan did come inside a few times,
and it's unclear if other kids were with her at
the time, but you'd presume yes, because we know she
was trying to follow those rules about not crossing the
parking lot by herself, and she would have had to
to get from where they were playing to get back inside.

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She came in once for raisins and some water, and
then another time to use the bathroom. She then had
to back out to play. This was the last time
Melanie Joe saw her daughter. The other kids kept playing,
and my understanding is they didn't stay immediately in that
playground area, and because they were sometimes going in areas
that were a little outside of the bounds to Megan,

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she wanted to stay put and keep playing more independently
at the playground. This next part of the story also
has a couple of variations. Some source material says that
the kids came back inside to get some water and
said that Megan didn't want to join them because she
didn't want to cross that parking lot, so she stayed
at the playground, and then Melanie had said go get her.

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Another variation says that they thought she already had come upstairs,
and then the same thing, Melanie instructed them to go
out and get her. In both instances, the kids went
back out, searched for her, and came back to say
they couldn't find Megan. One part I stumbled upon in
my research was that one of the papers described a
last place Megan was seen was by this fence that

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separated out. It was on the other side of the playground,
away from the area that her apartment home was, and
it was towards this row of duplexes that led into
the next apartment complex. And on the Instagram, I have
a picture I found the fence line on Google that
they're talking about. But it was a little confusing to me.
With that is that this would have made her cross

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another parking lot by herself, which didn't make a ton
of sense, and there wouldn't really be any reason for
her to be over there, but there is one source
material without a lot of context that does mention that.
So I want to say it, but I don't have
any good reason, and it seems out of alignment with
her other behavior of not crossing these parking lots by herself.

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I know it's frustrating to have these discrepancies. Sometimes I
run into cases like this and I hesitate for a
moment in sharing them because I can't get all the
information I troned out. But this is the reality of
the messiness of these older cases. This is what cold
case detectives are working with. And on top of it,
you have to remember now years of past, so people's

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memories can be hit or miss now even if I
was to revisit it. Meghan's case is one that hasn't
been told as often as other similar cases, and maybe
it's for this reason because of all the discrepancies and
lack of information. But her case still matters and the
answers are still out there, so on we go. After this,
Melanie Joe and her sister went out looking and quickly

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recruited other adults in the complex to help them look.
The kids had come back after not being able to
locate Megan at around eleven thirty am, and it was
around noon when Melanie realized Megan couldn't have gone that
far on her own. It was then that Melanie Joe
first placed to call to police. Police responded quickly and

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with numbers. They recognized how dangerous it was to have
a three year old out there by herself. In the
scenario where she wandered off, there was busy traffic nearby,
and then they had to consider the scenario that somebody
had taken her. From the get go, they were up
against a lot. Apparently no witnesses saw anything, and like

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I said, there were a ton of adults in kids
out that day. It was beautiful and school was out.
But sometimes that busyness creates almost a cloak or camouflage
for a predator. Everyone is so caught up in their
own business they don't think anything of a person luring
a child away. And it may not even look like

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that's what's happening. It just looks like a dad walking
away with his daughter. And this may be what happened,
we don't know. One of the things that makes apartment
complexes kind of tricky is just that there's a higher
concentration of people living in a small area. While some
apartment complexes have a great sense of community, it can

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be hard to truly know who all your neighbors are
when you're just living with so many different people around,
and in this situation, having neighboring complexes on either side,
it's just a tough situation. The kids that Megan was
playing with did not share any account of strange people
around them or anybody talking to them, nor did they

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say anyone seemed to be watching them. But kids are kids,
and they aren't necessarily looking for that kind of thing.
That's what's so terrifying about all of it. That first
day turned intonight, and Melanie had to imagine the idea
that her daughter was out there somewhere, maybe in the
dark outside, by herself and scared, or even worse, that

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she was with some sort of monster. The overnight passed,
and with the dawn of a new day brought new challenges.
For three days after Meghan went missing, it rained continuously.
Still mounted patrolmen, firemen, police officers, and helicopters combed to
the area searching for any sign of Megan. There were

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also volunteers doing foot searches, but with the lack of
clues and inclement weather, that search was called off by
Thursday afternoon, one full day after Meghan disappeared. Megan's father
was contacted and he came to Texas to help with
the search efforts himself. Like any case, polygraphs were given
to Melanie, Joe and Meghan's father and they were quickly

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ruled out as having anything to do with Megan's disappearance.
When the first few days of preliminary searching turned up nothing,
the search was stepped up even further. Each moment that
Megan was not found, the statistics around her safe return dwindled.
Specialized search teams came in from North Richland Hills and Anderson.

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Still not even a hint of a trace of any
sign of Megan or a single witness. As Meghan's face
was plastered on the news, that would soon change and
police would get their first potential sighting of Megan Garner
and a suspect in her abduction. Witnesses came forward to
say that just four hours after Meghan would have been abducted,

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they saw a man in a local grocery store with
a girl who matched the description of Megan. All have
a sketch of this person on the Instagram, but he
was described as white, around thirty five years old, around
five foot eight or five foot nine, and with a
muscular build. The man had dark eyes and dark hair,
had about two days worth of beard growth, and was

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wearing a maroon trucker style hat that said Nakona Boots
on it. He had on blue jeans and a long
sleeved khaki shirt, and witnesses felt that the man worked
outside Tyler. Police told the Tyler Courrier Times that they
I didn't consider this man a suspect and would just
like to speak with him. They said, quote, we would
like to contact him for more information about the case.

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We are asking anyone who has seen this man to
call the Tyler Police Department. I do always laugh when
police play it off like that, because obviously they very
clearly wanted to speak to this man as a potential suspect.
There's no way that they think that he just came
across this girl by happenstance. But you know, they're trying
to play it cool and maybe it'd work in some scenario,

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but not in this one. This man never came forward
and police have never been able to identify him. No
further calls came in matching this man's description or seeing
a man like this with a girl who looked like Megan.
Megan's mom continued to work with friends and family to
pass out local flyers and put herself out there to
try to get anyone to come forward with information. She

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didn't hide from journalists and reporters, and sometimes her interview quotes,
you could tell she was just surviving moment to moment
in answering things, with her stream of consciousness just flowing.
At one point, the day after Megan's abduction, she was
interviewed by the Tyler Morning Telegraph and was talking about
how she couldn't think of anyone who would want to
hurt Megan. She said, quote, that's what's so bizarre about it.

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There's no one who would want to do that, And
I think it's very unlikely she would have run off.
But then none of this is possible. It was about lunchtime,
so she would have been getting hungry. End quote. So
you can just tell she's thinking out loud and trying
to orient herself to this unfathomable situation she's in. On
April fifth, News broke of a cruel situation happening to

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Melanie Joe, something all too familiar to many parents in
missing persons cases. A thirty year old man named William
Gordon Hunt approached Melanie Joe while she was passing out flyers.
Unbeknownst to her, he was actually in possession of a
long bladed knife. He told Melanie that he knew where
Meghan was and for four hundred dollars he could bring

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her back within thirty hours. Lieutenant Robin Roberts said, quote
at this point, we don't believe he knows anything. We
believe he was just trying to extort money from the
girl's mother. End quote. William Gordon Hunt was considered a
drifter at the time, with loose home addresses tying back
across the country to California and no settled housing in Texas.

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They arrested him for unlawfully possessing a weapon and that
was that. Undeterred by the cruelness of opportunistic people, Melanie
Joe Garner was pleased when that same week, the Tyler
Area Pawnbroker's Association put up a one thousand dollars reward
for information. By week two, the FBI had entered the

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investigation as it became more and more obvious that Megan
Garner had not fallen victim to a tragic accident or
wandered off and gotten lost. And at the same time,
another family resource came in to help support Melanie, Joe
and Meghan's face family. David Collins flew into Texas from
California representing the Kevin Collins Foundation. David had lived in

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Melanie Joe's shoes, and years later he still was. David
and his wife Anne were a big Catholic family. They
had nine children together and Kevin was their seventh born
on February tenth, nineteen eighty four. Kevin had basketball practice
that afternoon at his parochial school, and he typically went

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with his brother, but he was home sick. He made
it to practice fine and left a little early to
catch the bus home. He was last seen at Oak
Street and Masonic Avenue at the bus stop, waiting for
the number forty three bus. Witnesses reported seeing him talking
to a blonde haired man with a black dog. He
never got on the bus and he was never seen again.

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Over the years, there have been strong suspects in many theories,
but Kevin has never been found and his family is
still without answers. His case was on the cover of
Newsweek and he was one of the first kids to
appear on a mill cart in Wrapped in grief. Kevin's
family wanted to do something to help any parent who
would be in their shoes in the future, even if

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they never wished that their circumstances fell on anybody, and
thus they established the Kevin Collins Foundation. They worked up
close and personal with families, helping to get the word
out there, doing mailings across the country, you name it,
and that's exactly what they did here. As David Collins
arrived in Tyler, they set up a local office for

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tips and information and to work out of it. And
then at a press conference, David said, quote, there is
nothing other than volunteers, people from your community here to
assist this family in giving Meghan a chance to be
returned to her family. He went on to say that
it would require a tremendous effort to spread information about
Meghan's disappearance. He also said, quote, this is a huge country.

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One doesn't realized the difficulties were talking about until you
get into this and start working on it. Back home.
David Collins had led the push for laws and reform
in California for missing and exploited children. The organization he
founded had been brought into help with around one hundred
and twenty cases all across the country up to this

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point in nineteen ninety one, and sixteen children had been
brought home alive. He stressed that they weren't an investigative organization,
rather a vehicle for information. In getting the word out,
you have to remember families back then did not have
social media. In a twenty four hour news cycle that
featured cases to help get the word out, and while

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today's technology can be a double edged sword, it's helpful
in this regard. Despite staying there for weeks, in doing
countless mailings, cold calls, outreach, and hours and hours of work,
no substantial tips came in about Megan's case. As a
side note, the emotional toll of being involved in horrific

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missing persons cases year after year took its toll on
the Collins family. They ended up amicably divorcing, just growing
and surviving in different directions after the life changing loss
of their son. Amidst a decline in donations to the organization,
and the emotional toll. David closed the organization in nineteen
ninety six. On the two month anniversary of Megan's abduction,

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a candlelight vigil was held. In attendance for support was
Janis Norwood, mother of twelve year old Kimberly Norwood from Hallsville, Texas.
Hallsville is a little less than fifty miles outside of Tyler.
According to the website the Charlie Project, Kimberly was last
seen at approximately five point fifteen PM in her hometown

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of Hallsville, Texas. She was walking with three friends in
the Caney Creek Estates subdivision at the time. The four
children went their separate ways less than one mile from
Kimberly's family house. She never arrived home and has never
been heard from again. It's presumed that she was abducted
in the short walk home in this isolated area. One

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thing I saw reoccurring in this case was a bond
and support of families of missing or murdered children. I've
heard family members in this space before say it's a
club you never want to become a member of. But
the bonds formed by those who uniquely understand the pain
and circumstances are undeniable, and this was shown again when

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in October of nineteen ninety one, seven months after Megan's abduction,
another Tyler child went missing. At the end of October
of nineteen ninety one, an eight year old boy named

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Chad Choice went missing from his bedroom. Soon after, the
family began receiving ransom notes, but he was never returned.
Chad's mom, Karen Choice, and Megan's mom, Melanie Joe, ended
up connecting on a lot of initiatives together. They both
had young children abducted from what they thought was a
safe city to raise their children in. There were some

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big differences in the cases. The Choice family was terrorized
and taunted by Chad's abductor for years, as they stated
he had been taken from his bed. His sister had
actually noticed her set of house keys had gone missing
the day prior, but hadn't thought too much of it.
Not only did Chad's uncle receive a ransom note at

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his place of business, Chad's mom would get phone calls
or notes left on her car saying that Chad was
still alive and out there, but they needed to pay
a certain amount of money for his return. Even with
trying to arrange a drop off in exchange. Chad was
indeed never returned. Just as a content warning, this next
part is graphic, so skip ahead thirty seconds if you

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need to. In nineteen ninety six, his skull was left
in a plastic bag on the family's doorsteps. It would
take time for forensics to conclusively identify him, but it
was indeed Chad choice. Soon thereafter, a family friend named
Patrick Horn was arrested in the case. He was just
seventeen at the time. It turns out he had abducted

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Chad and shot him that same night. His attempts at
ransom money were to pay his own drug debt, but
he never had any intention of returning Chad. I know
I just jumped ahead there, but I know my listeners
and I know you'd want to hear what happened in
Chad's story. It's just honestly one of the most horrible
cases I encountered, And because the circumstances of the cases

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were so different, it's unlikely that Megan's abduction was connected
to Chad's at all. But it's also important to remember
that this is our hindsight now knowing everything that happened
to Chad at the time in real time, they were unsure.
It was rare to have two abductions in tyler of
small children at the same time, so seemed hard to

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ignore those similarities. But Chad was an eight year old
African American boy taken from his bedroom and Megan was
a three year old white toddler seemingly taken more opportunistically
from her apartment courtyard. Melanie Joe had no idea who
took her daughter and was not receiving any communication from
the perpetrator, but she was at the receiving end of

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hearing horrible town gossip. At one point, there was a
rumor that Meghan's mutilated body had been found behind a
local daycare that completely was false turned out to be untrue,
but it was understandably distressing to Melanie Joe and her family,
and of course Melanie Joe's parenting was put on trial
at the court of public opinion. But my podcast is

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called a Simpler Time True Crime for a reason. This
was very common for kids to just go out and
play because the perception was that everything was safe and
there was no national news learning you to these abductions.
In nineteen ninety one. We're at a bit of a
weird spot in the safety teaching timeline because in the
eighties and nineties it did bring in that whole stranger

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danger panic, and there was a lot more visibility to
abduction all of a sudden, particularly with a few high
profile cases in the news. But I think that families
still just thought that they would teach their kids about
stranger danger, which we know differently about how to approach
kids her own safety now, and they thought that otherwise.
Once they did that, it just probably wouldn't happen to them.

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And I don't fault families for feeling that way. In fact,
most cases kids were safe, But as I always say,
for the families it did happen to it happened to
them completely, one hundred percent. They were the statistic and
it's something that forever changed them. One thing I appreciate
so much about Melanie Joe was that she was candid
about this in interviews. She told the Tyler Courrier Times

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how she was first suspicious of everybody she encountered, all
of her neighbors and anyone around the complex, but she
also realized she couldn't pinpoint that and wishes she had
just taken different precautions. She said quote, At first, I
was very suspicious of everyone concerned. I thought the abductor
might have been someone visiting someone else. But as I

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became more aware, I learned abductors often stakeout areas and
are totally unconnected with anything going on there. I didn't
realize the danger or just how close you should watch
your children. I didn't realize how quickly it could happen
until it happened to me. On the one year anniversary
of Megan's abduction, while Chad Choice was still missing, she

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told the paper, quote, this can happen to anyone at
any time. There is still an abductor in our midst,
and until someone finds Megan or Chad, we should be
extra cautious. She would talk about how it pained her
to see children on supervised and how after what happened
to her, she just wanted to tell all of these
parents to be more careful and not to trust. Leeds dwindled,

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but the push for answers didn't. Megan's face was on
nationwide mailings and on TV shows. Her case was even
profiled on America's Most Wanted, but detectives were honest when
they said they had nothing new to go on. Then
something shifted. In July of nineteen ninety three, Tyler Police

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Chief Larry Robinson confirmed that they were interviewing a suspect
in Megan Garner's abduction. He couldn't give any other details
other than an ongoing probe between the FBI and Tyler
Police resulted in the lead in interrogation, He said, quote,
because of the nature of the case, I want to
be very careful until we get to a point where
we can take other action. The suspect is not charged

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with anything at this time, just being interviewed end quote.
For four days they questioned the suspect, but the day
after interrogations ended, there was disappointment. Assistant Tyler Police Chief
Bob Bond said the suspect had been cleared and was
not a viable suspect in the case. The man was
from out of state and had been held in Smith

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County Jail on a warrant from another case. Investigators and
Meghan's family were disappointed, but hoped that this would refuel
new leads in the case, but it didn't. By nineteen
ninety four, Meghan's mother, Melanie Joe, had married a new man,
they moved into a new place. It was too painful
for her to keep a placeholder bedroom for Megan, so

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she didn't. She told one news outlet that if Megan
was found safe, they'd blow up an air mattress and
all sleep in the same room and be together, and
that it would be such a celebration for the need
to find a bigger place that they would just be excited.
Melanie discussed how Meghan's brother, Chance was too young to
digest a lot of what happened, but that Phalan, who

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was eight at the time, internalized her sister's disappearance and
felt immense pain, wondering if she was dead or alive
or was coming back. Every few years, Megan's name would
pop up in an article about missing children from East Texas.
At one point, Karen Choyce and Melanie Garner Jackson worked
with a woman named Betty Edwards to form the Texas

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Association for Stolen Children after they identified twenty five cases
of unsolved abducted children in the area in the mid nineties,
and then sporadically thereafter, the National Center for Missing and
Exploited Children would update Meghan's age progressed photo to capture
what she might look like if she were still out there,
but beyond that, there haven't been many more new leads.

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Melanie is still alive and in touch with police regularly.
Just a few months ago, a CBS News affiliate in
Tyler did a spotlight on Megan's case and interviewed a
former detective on the case, Jim Hole. He was the
lead investigator from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty two. He
said there's been an active detective assigned to the case
since nineteen ninety one and that they're quick with any

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follow up. Detective Hole told reporters that Megan's DNA is
on file and that they've ruled her out against Jane Does.
They also have ruled her out against people who have
come forward thinking they might be Megan Garner. Detective Hole
also said that they had the National Center for Missing
Unexploited Children or NICKMIK, come in a few years back,

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and they handed over their case files to Nickmick and
had them review everything and make suggestions. He really hopes
that someday in the future they will get the break
they need in this case to make an arrest or
at least get answers someone out there who knows something
and is willing to come forward. You never know if
the information you have could prove to be helpful. Maybe

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you knew someone who had a similar outfit to that
man at the grocery store back then or that unique hat.
You could have encountered somebody as a child yourself in
the Tyler area at that time, and maybe this run
in with this person was inappropriate or creepy, but you
never shared it. Maybe you dated or were married to
someone you thought could have been responsible, or maybe someone's

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